I have been wondering why over the last several years there seems to be a concerted attack on the Christian religion in this country, while at the same time a special accommodation of Islam in our schools and other places. It made no sense. I guess it does.
I suspect that there are elements of the Left that are engaging in "projection"; they are the ones who really want to impose their belief system on the rest of us, but since that doesn't jive with their self-perception of tolerance and fairness, they accuse the Christian right of building the theocracy that they themselves are trying to build
(albeit a secularist one).
The Bushian Warfare Cult is a heinously twisted version of an angry Christianity that rains Tritonal-filled bombs down on disobedient foreign populations in the name of God.
http://depthomelandinsecurity.bl...is-
nemesis.html
vikingstar - you are correct. Displacement isn't the only mechanism being used. Projection is very prominent - particularly in the leaders who definitely DO want to impose their beliefs on us. Most of the rank and file, I feel, are more frightened of facing reality and are in denial. Thus displacement is a convenient mechanism to help them focus their anxieties. They see no contradiction or paradox in their emotions. The style of many on the Left has become Denial, Projection, and Displacement. Displacement is probably the least immature of the the three, but it still is a far from optimal strategy for coping with reality.
c.b. - what planet do you come from? you sound like some brainwashed college kid who has memorized his teacher's bs.
Dear Anonymous,
Earth. Does Bush not drop Tritonal-filled bombs in the name of God? Do you think God wants him to unleash death and destruction overseas in God's name?
Gee and I thought it was the Jews who controlled our government.
Oh my! Its a Judeo-Christian PLOT AGAINST THE WORLD! Thank you Collin for opening our eyes!
/sarcasm
Well, at least its religiously balanced.
Collin - thanks so much for enlightening us all!!!! If it werent for you, we would all be in the dark, and would have never heard of these "tritonal" or whatever bombs that the cult is raining down upon people you love.
Seriously though, Collin, I think you are in need of psychiatric help. Heck, I live and work with a lot of leftists in Ann Arbor, and even the most ardent leftists arent spouting the sort of stuff you do.
As the good doctor knows, we almost never see a "pure culture" of defences. Add to Denial (the process that underlies all defences, to some extent), projection, and displacement, rationalization and , one of my personal favorites, intellectualization. The brightest academic minds use intellectualization to construct wonderfully elaborate defensive structures, supported by an ediface of multisyllabic words, which when not examined, makes a kind of superficial sense. It would go sort of like this: Gee, Bush is religious, and some of those religious right wingers would like a theocracy, and so would bin Laden, so therefore, Bush is just like bin Laden, only worse because he lied. The left has gotten away with this because no one with a microphone would call them on it...that is changing.
One other component is that the left elites need for their paranoid theories to be correct in order to maintain their self concept/self esteem, and avoid the humiliation oo being found out to be wrong. (But that us a long, more complicated issue.)
Thanks, ShrinkWrapped! I have written extensively about the projection and paranoia of the Left in other posts, as well as denial. Displacement seemed appropriate for this particular example of leftist thought. But, of course, it is really a culture of immature defenses, all working to maintain their self concept/self esteem.
Protesting the horrible things Washington does in our name is not something to boost one's self esteem. To the contrary, it is much easier to believe a lie than to refute it. Challenging power is difficult and wears down the self-esteem. Bush continually alludes to God as being the driving force behind his decision-making. His decisions cause immense pain and suffering to those in his way. Therefore, the sane protest.
And what is the driving force behind yours, cb? clearly not rational thought. You appear determined to take control of every thread on this blog. What do you think that says about you?
OK Collin, assuming that you are correct - what would you propose we do? Give up and come home crying to mommy, and let terrorists come here and slaughter us? BTW, have you ever lived in an Arab contry, or even interacted with real muslims? And I dont mean the kind of folks you meet at the Islamic Students Assn at major American Univs? Real hard-core Wahabiis? Or Salafists? Becasue if you did, and if you truely are against theocracy, you wouldnt be whining about how American policy and the American nation is the source of all the violence and suffering in this world. I think you are living in some kind of a irrational dream world.
“Theocracy” is surely too strong a word for what Bush has begun to effect in this country. He consults his own peculiar morality in making policy, something all presidents do, and stretches the bounds of legitimate presidential power, something most presidents do. I feel it’s true many liberals speak in terms too divisive and create simple dichotomies where the facts are nuanced.
But a scientifically astute person like yourself should realize you’re deep in the same polemic. You announce “the real danger” as if only one danger is possible, as if anyone who fears over-religiosity at home is displacing a secret fear of what you have sized up (fairly enough) as our scariest problem. You sweepingly diagnose a monolithic Left, a straw man as lame as the one you ridicule here, and claim it’s a victory for intellect over tragic psychological displacement. Well, we who oppose Bush are not all Osama-enablers, just as you who support him are not all abortion-doctor murderers. Your site is rife with furious hyperbole that surprises me in a psychiatrist of your pedigree.
“Don’t hold your breath” is wildly misplaced. There are intelligent liberals--and secular humanists galore--who hate Muslim theocracies and decry the stain they are on humanity. Richard Dawkins springs to mind (since he’s VP of British Humanists), but there are countless more, and active ones. Though you seem to categorically disbelieve them, even liberal politicians have proposed ways to disarm dangerous countries and ultimately spread democracy. OK, so you disagree with them, you feel Bush’s stronger approach is necessary. History may redeem you, or it may redeem liberals, or it may redeem someone else with totally different ideas.
I have a slew of liberal colleagues who oppose religiosity in public policy as a human rights principle. We denounce true theocracies and loudly fight the lesser degree of religiously-driven policy-making we see at home. Why so loud, about something so trivial? Because it’s not trivial to us, and this is our home. We love our country. On rational consideration--not automatically faultier than yours, I feel I have to add--we believe our leaders are misinterpreting a fundamental right. Yes, there are foreign theocracies to confront, but it’s not the only battle worth fighting. Your self-defeating caricature of the Left does nothing but entertain people who already agree with you.
Dr. Santy writes:
"I have written extensively about the projection and paranoia of the Left in other posts, as well as denial. Displacement seemed appropriate for this particular example of leftist thought. But, of course, it is really a culture of immature defenses, all working to maintain their self concept/self esteem."
Thank God this is just a blog. Wholesale diagnosis of 59 million voters would be unforgivable if anyone's licensure were on the line. Please try to see that these condescending oversimplifications do nothing to unify Americans against terrorism.
Steven Rai-
Sorry, but you are way off base. A discussion of defense mechanisms is NOT a diagnosis. Everyone uses defense mechanisms when they cope with the world. Some of them are mature; some of them are immature. There are immature people on both Left and Right. I'm sure that some of them even have real psychiatric diagnoses. However, the Left as a matter of PRINCIPLE as well as TECHNIQUE continually use the defense mechancisms I mentioned to maintain an ideological position that is untenable in the real world. There are reasonable and mature people on the Left, but I haven't seen many of them recently speaking out against the bizarro members of their number. If the shoe (or defense) fits, feel free to wear it.
Our opinions really differ. Your tone and use of psychological terms, for me, trangresses a simple discussion of motives behind politics. Your post "The Paranoid Style" is an example.
As much as anything, I feel the destructiveness of your site is in oversimplifying the Left to the point of alienating reasonable people who don't agree with Bush. Like you, I'd love to see democracy fostered along with American pride, and I certainly point out fallacious thinking among my fellow liberals. I trust The Economist over the New York Times. But if you don't see a condescension and vitriol in your posts that would estrange centrists, there's nothing for me to say. It's your blog.
I'd like to know which liberal principles you feel are purely defense mechanisms.
You know you are right, Steven. Instead of saying that people on the left are using projection or denial or displacement, and trying to understand why they say the incredible things they say, we should just call them Evil (which is a perfectly OK term to use since Howard Dean has popularized it--right?)
Dr. Sanity:
How DARE you have a point of view, and promote it? How DARE you speak of general trends among outspoken leftists, and expose their fallicies? How DARE you "alienate centerists" (if we could actually find some)?
Feel chastized.
Point of view, fine. Don’t care about alienating centrists, fair enough even if I disagree. (Your baseless jibe at centrists puts you in a category with Michael Moore, by the way.) But hypocrisy, Left or Right, deserves exposure, especially when someone touts her own rationality and seals her posts with an impression of psychiatric legitimacy. I don’t care if Dr. Santy feels chastised, I just want her to toe the line of honesty she rants at the Left for breaching. Take this from one of her posts rebutting a liberal historian:
"Foner...with breathtaking arrogance, demonstrates his 'intellectual' superiority by asserting that whatever he thinks is the 'objective standard' by which all of us should think! Isn't that nice?"
And take one of Santy’s typical mass evaluations of the Left, from this theocracy post:
"I would suggest that if 'smiting theocracy' is the goal, then they need to grow up and deal with the anxiety, helplessness, anger, and rage they are feeling; then focus on the REAL danger we face as a country."
How many times does Santy grandly define the “Real World” for the “paranoid and immature” Left? That’s breathtaking arrogance, and she’s guilty of it all over her raving polemical site. She constantly uses the caricature/exaggeration/straw man technique she scathes at the Left for--she calls secular humanists suckups to Muslim theocracies in this post! She bashes the New York Times but trusts the Washington Times, says leftists coddle their loonies but winks at rightists making ad hominem attacks all over her site, and taunts the Left for defining itself by what it’s against but spends most of her blog’s political zeal shredding her own myopic version of the Left. And the “good doctor” takes no precautions to restrict herself to "general trends" among the Left's "outspoken" minority, by the way. Almost every political post sees her throwing all Bush-opposers in a heap and calling them infantile or paranoid because they don’t agree on her "Real World.” Breathtaking arrogance, and hypocrisy.
These days, it seems to me, all the outspoken leftists ARE Bush-bashers.
There are undoubtedly rational voices on the Left, but they are not the ones who are prominent. Nor are they highly respected by their fellow leftists--look at what has bneen happening to Lieberman, for example.
To be even close to Moore's class, I think I'd need to gain at least 125 pounds.
here is a letter i send to
www.jesusneverexisted.com :
Dear Mr. Humphreys,
Please excuse me for the fact it took me so long to thank you for your response (attached at the end).
I was away 3 months and I have small kids, time passed, additionally I wanted to do some research to answer you as good as I can.
My hope is that you may rethink your sympathy or apathy for this terrible cult and rewrite your islam section. Here is why:
Since I read your site and sent you my e-mail, I changed my mind on islam. All happened a month or so ago:
Like most of people, I thought there is 95% moderate islam and 5% extremist islam (still it is 6 ½ millions of extremists!). I have muslim friends and I was part of several peace and human rights groups for a decade in my twenties. I thought muslims weren't extremists; I thought they looked and spoke and were moderates most of the time.
The truth is every time I went too far on politics’ talks, I felt uncomfortable with their responses, so I back up always, most of the time unconsciously, so I could keep my judgment that they are moderate (good) muslims.
But retroactively I have to admit they weren't moderate at all: I wasn't telling them really my thoughts or challenging theirs, so not to have them explain more deeply what they think about women, non-muslims, animals etc... (And therefore hearing word for word, clearly what they really think of those subjects). I always give them the benefit of the doubt in every matter, projecting my beliefs on them. But in several instances during the years, when these matters came up anyway, their points of view always frightened me, so I put my head deeply more in the sand like the ostrich to not hear the truth, to not see their eyes (so they don’t know I know, so they don’t know I am actually afraid of their beliefs).
Your site was a catalyst and I began researching here and there, muslim sites and ex-muslim sites. Only a cult leader advises you to beat your wife, to have sex with kids, to have slaves and sex slaves, to be a warmonger, to rape women, to kill the infidels and the apostates, to maim, behead, burn, loot, lie, to denounce even your family etc... mohamed advocated hate, misogyny, pederasty, violence, warfare etc...
If your fight is against theocracy, if you want to unveil the real face of some religions that may endanger our freedoms if not our lives, I think I found a few links that might interest you and bring you the feelings (shock, denial, enlightening, fear, gratefulness…) that somebody feels when and after visiting your site! These sites are as disturbing and I hope they will not only become a few links on your page but much more.
I would like to think these sites will help you realize that islamization of our world is quicker that its christianization, and may be much more dangerous. After reading your site, I came to the conclusion christians did and can threat our freedom and lives, but after reading the sites I am sending you, I decided islam threatens us right now. I don’t think my being islamophobe is prejudicial: I am anti-islam like I am anti-nazism.
In the first 3,100 years of recorded history - from 2500 B.C. to 600 A.D. - there isn’t a single chronicled episode of Arabs leaving Arabia to conquer, plunder, or terrorize any nation. There isn’t even a record of them terrorizing themselves or of them imposing tyrannies. But then at the dawn of the Islamic Era - 622 A.D. - everything changes. During the first decade of islam, according to all that we know about it, mohamed inspired and led 75 raids. All but two were aggressive. All but four were textbook terrorism in which armed muslims attacked defenseless civilians—just as they do today. But unlike today, every initial islamic assault was over sex, power, and money; none were fought for religion.
During islam’s first ten years, mohamed and his militants raped, plundered, enslaved, and murdered everyone who weren't rallying their troops. But the first muslims, like hitler’s gang, were equal opportunity militants, pirates and oppressors. According to the islamic koran and hadith, mohamed’s militants forced islam on all Arabs during the War of Compulsion—a war that was fought in 633 over money and power.
Over islam’s second decade, the once freedom-loving and peaceful Arabs were transformed into killing machines. They ruthlessly attacked, conquered, and plundered Yemen, Persia, the Byzantines, Syria, today’s Israel, and Egypt. During islam’s first century, muslims wielding swords, not korans, stormed out of Arabia, reaching the boarders of France and India before they were finally stopped.The record of history is clear, undeniable, and rationally irrefutable. The thing that changed Arabs into killers was Islam. The scriptural evidence is equally clear, equally undeniable and rationally irrefutable. The islam of mohamed, the islam of the koran and hadith, comprise a declaration of war against all humankind - they are a terrorist manifesto.
"And fight with them until there is no fitnah (sedition), and religion should be only for Allah" Koran 2:193
Omar Ahmad, 5/16/2004
Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.theaustralian.news.co...%
5E2702,00.html
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?
ID=11513
http://www.iht.com/articles/2005...news/
terror.php
I am an atheist, I believe all religions are men inventions. But the invented “christ did not authorize the crusades or the inquisitions. That was entirely the decision of the Church. In contrast jihad is one of the five pillars of islam ordered and practiced by mohamed and is mandatory on all muslims. That is the difference. Christians now denounce the crusades but muslims cannot denounce jihad because it is part of their faith. christian, jewish, hindu or buddhist… terrorists are exceptions, while muslim terrorists are the norm. The koran has hundreds of verses that instruct people to wage war and kill. In fact mohamed says war is good for islam.”
I really believe now that terrorists are not high jacking islam, they are islam. The “good” muslims (the gentle muslim neighbor…) are the first victims of this cult, if they are nice it is because they never really read their koran and have their head in the sand like all of us. Or if they read it, they are lying to themselves and/or to us to be friendly to us: the koran forbid the muslims to befriend non-muslims and the sharia advocates the muslims to lie in war and jihad’s time to deceive the enemy. The primary goal is to kill the unbeliever to islam:
Imam Abu Hammid Ghazali says: "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible." (Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri, The Reliance of the Traveller, translated by Nuh Ha Mim Keller, amana publications, 1997, section r8.2, page 745)
Note that Al-Ghazali is one of the most famous and respected Muslim theologians of all time
We have to wake up. We have to be de-brainwashed. The good muslims have to be de-cult. We have to help them. Please Mr. Humphreys, help to eradicate islam too if your motto is resisting the rise of theocracy. Don’t only target christianity (judaism is not a evangelist faith anyway), you have to target islam too! Your site embellishes and apologizes islam.
After you read my letter, please click the links and excuse me if most of the text and the images are very hurting and frightening. And don’t forget it is happening right now, these are not drawings from the past.
Beslan: 186 kids and dozens of adults murdered by muslim terrorists.
Did you know they RAPED kids before murdering them?
Did you know that the terrorists stormed the school with hand guns, and herded everyone into the gym, where they used axes and sladge hammers to knock out the dry way, and there were explosives, assault weapons ammunitions, wiring and canned food? The Muslims were part of a construction crew, that 4 years before had remodeled the gym and the school. These same workers hid the explosives, weapons, and supplies in the walls and sealed them up until the day they decided to kill the children. This was more than a terror attack. It was a calculated act of war against Russia. Islam is in war with us and we don’t acknowledge it. It is not against jews or israel, it is against who is not following the way of Mohamed:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall.../Gallery/
23.htm ...
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/w...uck/
beslan.html
Killing kids, women, (handicapped people) and the elderly is permitted:
http://www.terrorists-suck.org/
w...n_children.html
World domination
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
2.htm
After friday prayers were over, the Muslims came out and grabbed the first Hindu they could. Mr. Vimal Patak a Bangladeshi born Hindu was beaten to death with sticks as the Muslim mullahs (priests) chanted "kill the Kafir!" (non-muslim). With folded hands he begged for his life and died a brutal death. http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
7.htm
An Islamic Mufti in Copenhagen sparked a political outcry after declaring that women who refuse to wear headscarves are "asking for rape."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Arti...le.asp?
ID=20552
HOW CAN A PARENT DO THAT???????????????
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall.../Gallery/
11.htm
Weekly Jihad Report and more:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
(we are not told there are hundreds of murders and b
continuation:
(we are not told there are hundreds of murders and beheadings by muslims to non-muslims in India, Asia…)
it's ok to have sex with kids (mohamed married a 6 years old girl) or with animals (shiite islam)
http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?
...OCID=2083225445
I promote your call, would you read Mr. Ali Sina’s call?
This is his remarkable letter to mankind:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped...d/
sina40908.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Arti...inaprologue.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Arti..._left_islam.htm
We have to hear their testimonies before it is too late for all of us, they were inside the cult:
http://www.apostatesofislam.com
sharia translated in English!
http://mehr.org/
Islamic_Penal_Co...ode_of_Iran.pdf
more:
http://frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?
ID=11513
http://www.religioustolerance.or...g/
isl_adul2.htm
http://www.crf-usa.org/terror/is...r/
islam_law.htm
There are thousands Islamic sites but none is posting so much the Koran or the sharia! There are many reasons Islamic clerics are sensitive about having the koran or sharia translated into a contemporary language. The most important are that they don’t want anyone to know what it actually says, the stupid and the horror stuff, and how poorly it’s written, and therefore not one word of god there. Consequently it is easier to fool the West and the converts too.
Muslims invest a quarter of their school day learning to recite the koran —not reading it or understanding it. They simply learn to mouth its sounds in the arcane, inadequate, and odd dialect of religious Arabic. That way they can be fooled into believing that it’s “God’s Book,” and that it’s written intelligently. Ignorant, they can be indoctrinated and thus manipulated by clerics and kings. Even turned into human bombs when it serves islam’s interests. It is more intolerant, racist, punitive, and violent than hitler’s Mein Kampf.
There are one hundred vicious verses for every nice one. The book inspires infinitely more terror than peace. There are countless meaningless words, foreign words, and missing words which is why translations differ so significantly—everyone is guessing as to what Muhammad thought Allah was trying to say. This is why Gerd Puin, the world’s leading specialist in Arabic calligraphy and koranic paleography, studying the oldest manuscripts, speaks with disdain about the willingness of Muslims and non-Muslims alike, to accept Islamic dogma. He says: “The Qur’an claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen,’ or clear, but if you just look at it, you will see that every fifth sentence or so simply doesn’t make sense. Many Muslims will tell you otherwise, but the fact is that a fifth of the Qur’an is just incomprehensible. This is what has caused the traditional anxiety regarding translation. If the Qur’an is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid.”
By reading the koran in a language they actually understand, muslims would find that there is no semblance of order in the central book of Islam either. The koran is a jumbled mess without context, chronology, or rational transitions. It is only by rearranging the koran in the order it was revealed and infusing it with the context of the chronological hadith narratives, that the book begins to make sense. But by so doing, it becomes obvious that the koran was simply a reflection of mohamed‘s demented character and of his misplaced ambition. The more you know, the more you will come to despise the fraud mohamed perpetrated on his fellow Arabs and they on human kind. To know the koran is to reject islam.
Is there a moderate islam?
http://
libertyandculture.blogspo...larization.html
Please read that islam is already in our schools http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/...lltownusa-
4.asp
May be it is too late http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/...lltownusa-
6.asp
And how they recruit http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/...lltownusa-
5.asp
They have money to interfere in our medias:
http://www.pipelinenews.org/inde...2.8.05fox%
2Ehtm
http://www.prophetofdoom.net
The second renaissance of islam:
http://
www.tellthechildrenthetru...d_en.html#part1
but of course all the site is breath taking, I learned so much about things nobody says.
Is islam evil?
http://www.liberty-and-culture.c...ges/2/
index.htm
http://jihadwatch.org/
An amazing symposium on gender apartheid in islam:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/arti...le.asp?
ID=16440
(I have a daughter; this issue is very sensitive to me since I am aware of the spreading of islam)
http://www.petitiononline.com/uk...5/
petition.html
And again Mr. Ali Sina:
Stoning
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
6.htm
Maiming
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
5.htm
Beating
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
3.htm
Hanging
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
4.htm
Lynching
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
7.htm
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall.../Gallery/
22.htm
Self-beating
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall.../Gallery/
10.htm
Glorifying terrorism to kids
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall...g/Gallery/
8.htm
Islamic justice
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gall.../Gallery/
20.htm
And there is an amazing wisdom (so many surprising similarities) in the first article in this link. (There are articles following about christianity spreading you will be interested in too)
http://vivekajyoti.blogspot.com/...akistan-
to.html
http://www.Starman3000.com
Is the 20 points plan to islamize the US true?
http://islamstrueface.blogspot.c...america-
by.html
I saw 6 videos of beheading. I wanted to know, not because I am crazy or because I am masochist or sadochist. But because I am a non-muslim women and I have kids.
I wanted to know what these “people” do: I couldn't walk for an hour after seeing. The poor victim is suffering long minutes. He wants to shout but first the executioner shut his mouth and then the blood bothers him to shout and cry his fear and pain. Then he moans and makes noise. His body is shaking and the executioners are praying and singing, shouting god is great “allah ouakbar”.
http://www.abrahamic-faith.com/a...ading-
video.wmv
http://www.ogrish.com/archives/
t...ages_Oct_30_200 5.html
http://masada2000.org/Execution%...%20-
Russian.asf
http://masada2000.org/kill-
colla...llaborator.mpeg
http://www.dafka.org/ContentFile...ideos/m-
mpg.asx
http://masada2000.org/shosei-kod...ading-
video.wmv
Priests and monks did these in the past centuries and spread christianity though terror, muslims are doing that now all other the world, with smiles in the west, but in India or Indonesia, they are kidnapping girls, terrorizing communities to force conversions or even beheading 13 years old girls on their way to school. It is not one or two cases. I read it is happening EVERYDAY.
http://www.organiser.org/dynamic...pid=109&
page=33
http://today.reuters.com/news/ne...TAIN-
HONOUR.xml
We shouldn’t say we are in war against terror but that we are in a war against islam. You wouldn't say ww2 was a war against blitzkrieg? Terrorism is a tool and islam is the violent and dangerous cult/ideology behind.
“In an interview with Die Welt, Bernard Lewis last week said that with present demographic trends, Europe will be Muslim at the very latest before the end of the century. This would mean the end of civilization. It would not only cause the art treasures of the West to fall into the hands of those who, everywhere they went, destroyed non-Islamic treasures, it would not only make Islam the most powerful force in the world, but would put into Muslim hands all the advanced weaponry that Europe possesses. This cannot be allowed to happen. And no more time should be spent pretending that -- unless something drastic is done -- this is exactly what will happen. The quislings of Europe, such as Chirac and Dominique de Villepin, are not only destroying their own country's future, and the wellbeing of the French -- the first through cupidity, the second through stupidity -- but are, through the vehicle of the E.U., damaging as well countries that do not share this shameful appeasing impulse, and do not deserve the damage French policy, and that of Solana, Patten, Prodi, et al is causing -- such as Bulgaria.”
In response to your e-mail, I understand you started your site because of christianity, and naturally you had to include judaism. Then you included islam: I still don’t understand why you adopted a different approach, why should islam deserve a different approach? If you full-front attack religions, full-front attack all of them. There shouldn’t be two balances. Islam is at least the same evil caliber than christianity and I don’t see any reasons why you offered a more balanced view only with islam and why did you decide to acknowledge its contributions and only its. What do you care if people are aware of its contributions or not? Don’t your goal is to denounce the evil in the religion? Why only with islam do you apologize it? I can’t believe that you think islam is not defending itself, so you have to help. Islam is not forever on the news, terrorism is. Islam should be because this is the ideology behind terrorism, but is not for politically correctness and intellectual dishonesty, from the journalist to the politician.
There is no “Golden Age” of islam or as you wrote “civilized muslim world”. “Please know that the stars of that golden age were men that did not believe in islam and were branded as apostates by islamic scholars. Ar Razi called the prophets billy goat bearded charlatans and Bu Ali Sina was condemned a
continuation and end:
and Bu Ali Sina was condemned as heretic by Al Qazali. Khayyam who was not just a great poet but also a great mathematician mocked all concepts of Islam such as paradise and predestination and the same could be said about Ibn Rushed and other freethinkers of islam. “. Islam wasn’t applied.
Please Mr. Humphreys, stop being politically correct with islam. I am from a growing group who decided to stop being intellectually dishonest before it is too late and to call a spade a spade. You are not nice with the other cults so please stop being nice with this cult too. Please don’t be blind in front of the immediate and huge danger of islam because of the danger of christianity.
Excuse me if I am wrong but I will put it as it is coming up to me: because some people hate so much the US, Israel, christianity or jews and judaism, they come to be pro-islam and pro-arabs. I saw it in leftist and atheist’s websites and statements, I see it in forums, in the news and so on. Feminists, liberals even homosexuals are marching with pro-palestinians, pro-sharia or islamists. If they read the Koran and the hadith, they would know that what they represent is not respected or subject to violence or death sentences in islam. How long will they be fooled? Long I hope, but I know not long. Europe of today is as unprepared as Africa and Asia of yesterday. The Americas will fall the same and in the same trap.
Our civility, secularism, pluralism and tolerance to islam’s violence, fundamentalism and intolerance will kill us. You want to save our world, thank you, please help to save it from the two major threats; your voice has to be heard on islam too.
Why should we fall into Scylla’s hands when we want to avoid Charybdis?
You can Mr. Humphreys: after I saw a post citing your site, I cited it as well hundreds of time, and I always feel pride when I saw other people after me citing it. Your 500 000 visitors and Mr.Ali Sina’s 500 000 should be acquainted with both sites.
I have to finish with Mr. Ali Sina wisdom:
"As I would not be a slave, so I would not be a master. This expresses my idea of democracy. Whatever differs from this, to the extent of the difference, is no democracy." Abraham Lincoln
“Thereupon I concluded: As I would not be a dhimmi, so I would not be a Muslim.” Ali Sina
(A dhimmi is a christian or a jew, who have to pay a fee to islam to enjoy some freedom and life. The kafir is the non-believer; He is from all the other religions, or atheist or theist and so on… He is not that lucky, he is to be murdered, beheaded and so on…)
Regards,
Anna Doe
(I choose this name for my activist activities: I have to protect myself and my family because when I was advocating for your site, there were only a few crazy cursing but since I am advocating for anti-islam sites, I am answered now with death threats and they found me on skype so I opened now two special activism e-mails!, please Mr. Humphreys protect your privacy too, Mr. Ali Sina is a fake name, no apostate of islam is safe even in the west, another example christianity is a lesser threat right now: apostates of islam are stoned or murdered everyday everywhere).
PS: A little joke click on ‘human rights in islam in
http://www.islamicfinder.org/ind...es&
lang=english
oops! There are no human rights in islam, completely empty!
PS 2: Again thank you for your excellent site. I read all your articles and I am rereading them too! They are amazing and enlightening. So much work! I am enjoying the new design, it is so much clearer and easier to find things now. I specially enjoy the chronological page.
Did you visit http://www.kingdavid8.com/
JesusE...susExisted.html he is arguing with you.
Your e-mail:
Hello …,
Thank you for visiting my website and encouraging words.
I was very impressed by your detailed and considered critique of my web site. You've clearly taken time and care to reach the articles. Let me do my best to respond to your points:
1. …
2. Tough on Christianity/Judaism, Soft on Islam.
Initially, I set out to catalogue the crimes and fabrications of Christianity – more than enough for one lifetime! But to understand Christianity one is obliged to understand Judaism. I was reluctant to extend the scope of enquiry to Islam but it was a persistent complaint from Jews/Christians that, whatever had happened in the past, Islam was today's danger.
Having accepted their challenge I decided – because Islam is forever in the news – to adopt a slightly different approach. Yes, to denounce Islam as no less fraudulent than the other monotheistic religions but rather than join in the chorus of full-frontal attack on Islam to offer a more balanced view and acknowledge the contributions of an Islamic world which probably few people today are aware of. Certainly in the English-language, Christians and Jews defend themselves vociferously both in the media and on the internet.
You are quite right, of course, the pluralism of Islam made it enlightened – not its religion.
Having said that, the site is a work-in-progress. For the moment I may be letting Islam off lightly. I assure you I am no fan of Muhammad and I will return to the subject as time permits.
Your comments are much appreciated.
Best wishes
Ken Humphreys
Resisting the Rise of the Theocracy.
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