How do you know that the muslims are not simply lying?
How do you know that they are not in full control of their psychology and they are using intentional deception to try to kill us and defeat us and take everything we have built?
And in the final light, why does it matter to us whether they are lying or screwed up psychologically?
The result is our defeat.
And our anihilation.
Gimme five in the head to keep you feelin' safe.
AA - of course, you are correct and it is certainly possible that all of the above persons quoted were lying through their teeth. I don't disagree with you. But there are many Muslims who believe this tripe--who desperately want to believe it--and who, with some confrontation and a little push to think about it, might just be able to get through this deception--whether or not it is conscious or not--and realize what is happening in their own minds. My posts are really addressed to those who might be able to have a flash of insight and understanding and then come to grips with what is rotten in their religion.
I make no excuse for this paranoid behavior. Nor do I permit myself to be blinded by any compassion or sympathy I might feel toward the underlying emotions that generate such bizarre "thinking" or behavior. I merely observe and try to understand. This does not make me impotent to act against it. But if I can promote change by exposing the psychological mechanisms, then I am doing what I am trained to do. Ultimately, everyone is responsible for his or her own behavior and the consequences of that behavior.
> “Israel is now in control of religious extremists, particularly the Wahabis and the Salafis, in Arabia and North Africa”, it claimed.
*If* we suppose this is true, then does that affect in any manner the response civilized societies require of -Islam- to its subsect Wahabbism itself?
Not one whit.
BTW, Doc, good piece, good comment here.
"How do you know that the muslims are not simply lying?"
OK...all Blacks lie. All Christians and Jews lie.
This is what the Right-Wing Blogosphere has become...Muslim Bashing.
Try this instead:
"Is Al Qaeda ‘Bogged Down in Iraq’?"
Karmi
Nobody here said that all Muslims lie. It looks like AA was talking about specific people; people who have a lot of power to influence public opinion in the Muslim world.
Two terms Americans and westerner should learn well.
Taqiyya and kitman: The role of Deception in Islamic terrorism
http://is.ci-ce-ct.com:85/Featur.../02-12-
2002.asp
The Islamic ’defence’ script: Islamic spokesmen repeat the same predictable platitudes concerning Islam in London as do Islamic spokesmen in Seattle and often appear to follow a prepared script from “Islam is tolerant and peace loving’ to the claim by Islamic spokeswomen invariably claiming that wearing the veil offers them more freedom (women in Muslim countries are therefore ‘freer’ than women in western countries), thereby precluding further examination into the real status of women under Islamic rule.
Islamic platitudes are also echoed uncritically by Western politicians, for example ”A small group of fundamentalists have hijacked a great religion’. The timely, skilful, misleading and diversionary theme of the ‘hijacking’ of Islam was introduced into public, political and media discourse by an Islamic ‘spokesmen’ in the United States shortly after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
The “Islam has been hijacked’ diversionary theme is now a conventional media and political reference deflecting attention from empirical and historical examination of the doctrinal, political and religious continuity of Islamic terrorism. A related theme that a small minority of Muslims are engaged in terrorism is utterly irrelevant as Islamic terrorism is always perpetrated by ‘small minorities’ or more accurately’ small groups’.
And now that Crown Prince is King. Ugh....
True there is a general tendency in Arab world to blame on the invisible hands of Israel or the west.
But what about the conspiracy theorists in the west, who sell millions of books every year?
LEBANESE MUFTI DR. Mum-I- am mad ALI AL-JOZO or Bozo the clown: 9/11, LONDON ATTACKS ;
Fairdinkum, if a dog showed signs of rabid behaviour as these Animals, there would be great public concern and pressure to have them put down for safety reason.
I would consider a dog in such a state less harmfull than these Islamic Bozo Animals.
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