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Reality-based? More like Reality-Debased.
I can only figure that their version of reality has become so warped and twisted it's essentially disconnected itself and snapped off into a pocket universe of its own...
And it's sure not one I'd care to inhabit.
It's funny, they're the ones who self-lable as compassionate, caring, non-hateful and all that, yet I see more anger, bile, and completely repulsive activity and postings coming from them than I've ever seen coming from the right-wing sites. Only Ann Coulter as far as I'm aware has gone as far as they do, and she only did it recently. (And I don't pay any attention to her in the first place...)
You also ought to take a look over on Metafilter - they're saying he's become a martyr now, and this will just cause MORE violence.
(So let's see - do nothing, and we'll get attacked because we're seemingly weak and primed for takeover... but we don't want to make them mad, so we'd better not attack them so they don't attack us... yep, that makes sense.)
Reality-based, my ass.
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LOL. Loons all. Oh Bloedige Hel | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:08 am | #
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A military blog I read is saying 17 raids were launched against terrorist locations/safe houses immediately after the hit on zaqawri. I wish I could give all the troops over there some cold beer and pizza. goesh | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:32 am | #
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Bad news for America is good news for Democrats. So the economy is BOOMING at a greater rate than anytime in the "booming 90's" and yet we're reading about the 'dark lining' of silver clouds.
A war being fought on the other side of the planet is so fantastically lopsided in our favor in every quantifiable category that it has to be spun as both quagmire and disaster. (Germany losing an entire Army group in central Russia in 1943 was a "disaster"; us losing 2 or 3 soldiers per day (out of 150,000) is almost statistically irrelevant. It's definately strategically irrelevant.... we could invade Iran without even being over worried about supply lines being disrupted.
But no. If it's not absolutely flawless and perfect, it's a 'disaster' (except when a Democrat is in control of the nation, state, or city...then any mistakes or tragedies are instantly "not their fault" and another reason to bolster socialism.)
You don't need a reason to hate someone - just as you don't need a reason to love them. Love and hate are self-propelled, not reactionary. Creative and destructive from within, not mechanical cog wheels turning without freedom from outside force.
That's why mere 'reason' fails before both love (a man dying for those he loves) and hatred (a man risking death to kill someone he hates).
Smoke doesn't always come from fire. John | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:48 am | #
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Exactly. Focus on the enemies who are gathering in Las Vegas for YearlyKos. Zarqawi is small potatoes compared to the fifth column. Nate | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:51 am | #
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Uh, I hope my irony came through. You guys are a joke. Nate | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:52 am | #
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What is it the LLLs' insane needs to minimize and ridicule others' achievement in order for them to feel supeior?
Now they are saying the Z-man is not important at all, with the diminished AQ organization, his influence is limited.
Is there anything more predictable with the left's "...BUT, BUT..."? I predict PelosiCo wil come out any minute now saying "Bring all troops home" and "BUT we haven't gotten OBL". always_right | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:05 am | #
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What's striking to me is how little these folks actually seem to know, factually and w/ regards to the strategic context of operations. It's as though every event is conformed to the same restricted set of templates.
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* Nate is likely Nate Cherlow
http://decrapulasedormiendo.blog...o.blogspot.com/
. Don't bother engaging him, he's a notorious troll. Moe | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:08 am | #
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I wonder what made the administration finally want to take him out now when they had been keeping him around to bolster the connection between terrorism and Iraq and help them politically:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/
"Military officials insist their case for attacking Zarqawi’s operation was airtight, but the administration feared destroying the terrorist camp in Iraq could undercut its case for war against Saddam." Michael Czeiszperger | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:09 am | #
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A feast of envious attacks on goodness. The satanic eucharist in action. Gagdad Bob | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:12 am | #
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Nate, don't worry about how your silly post was received. It'll be forgotten quickly.
The fight for democracy, and against terror, is what is important, and is what will be remembered. And yes, today was another step. JonathanInTelAviv | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:12 am | #
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Big deal!
The left wants to see Osama captured, so they can devalue that as well. Gagdad Bob | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:14 am | #
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So, Michael, you are saying you would have supported the President in a raid on the sovereign nation of Iraq to take out Zarqawi before this war ever began? Excuse me, I just snorted my coffee through my nose and need to get a tissue. Reid | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:32 am | #
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Michael Moore is no doubt shedding a tear for the leader of his "freedom fighters" today. Good Lt | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:39 am | #
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Here's a comment from 911Blogger.com:
"As soon as I came into work this morning, everyone was like, "Jon, did you hear the news?", and I hadn't. "Zarqawi is dead". I said, "yeah, that's nothing new. His family had a funeral for him in Jordan. The Pentagon had a propaganda campaign to make him appear more dangerous than he is.
"They jumped all over me as if I was making it up.
Jon Gold"
http://www.911blogger.com/ S. King | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:52 am | #
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Reid,
Good one. Just shows how stupid they sounded when they just repeated every talking points, eh?
If that still does not shut him up, there is absolutely no hope. Prediction? He'll come back to mis-direct the thread. always_right | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:53 am | #
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More dumbshit comments from the treasonous American Left:
http://decision08.net/2006/06/08...-of-al-zarqawi/
http://www.texasrainmaker.com/20...a-new-resident/
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/a...ives/
180520.php Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 11:56 am | #
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Funny, no mention of the appointment of the Defense Minister and Interior Minister by Maliki in Iraq in any of the left's reaction to Zarqawi's demise. Let's see, where can we classify this type of denial? Bob Zwaan | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:04 pm | #
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So Michael, which is it? Was a-Z in Iraq before the war, making WMD? I thought the chemical weapons were fabricated by a Bush administration eager to go to war. But you're telling me there was an airtight case they were there. Huh.
And Bush was wasting time he could have used attacking a-Q in Iraq in 2002 by trying to gather support for the war? Gee, wouldn't it have just been better to be unilateral, then? Assistant Village Idiot | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:08 pm | #
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So, after telling us that Bush has created a breeding ground for al Qaeda in Iraq, the left, now that the Zarkman is gone, wants us to believe that al Qaeda was but a small player in Iraq. Well, they are now. Chairman Moi | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:14 pm | #
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Gee, Michael... and here I thought that "there were no terrorists in Iraq before we invaded"!
Was someone lying when they said that? DaveP. | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:24 pm | #
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You guys are going to give Michael a headache. Talking about little things like Fact, when he has faith.
There was no connection between terrorist and Iraq. Bush had a chance to kill Z in Iraq years ago, before the war even started. But just because Z was there running a terrorist camp, does not mean that Iraq had connections with Terrorists.
Man, I am so glad I do not have to buy that kind of crap to help me sleep at night.
Keep the faith Michael, you believe in something that has less tangibility than God. James Stephenson | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:44 pm | #
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What a wonderful demonstration of liberal idiocy when it comes to National Security. All they have is 'what threat?'. And we wonder how we could have let 9-11 occur. With this kind of psychotic denial it is obvious how we let it happen. AJStrata | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:53 pm | #
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May all of Zarqawi's virgins look like Yasser Arafat. chsw10605 | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:56 pm | #
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DAILY KOS SPEAKS!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20...6/8/75854/
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"Bush's idea of justice is bombs falling out of the sky?"
"Why is he dead again just now? I wonder if Karl's getting indicted tomorrow..."
"Those pics of Abu Z look like they just thawed him out just in time for the elections."
"Zarqawi was quite probably a psy ops job in the first place, so what does that make his "death"? ...Keep your eyes on the prize....Haditha."
"Just in time to hide the fact they're trying to cut the estate tax for the uber wealthy"
"Yes the timing of Zarqawi's death does seem too good for Bush to be true. It reeks of distraction politics. " Anonymous | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 12:57 pm | #
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Two GOOD MP3s about Zarqawi:
"Waiting for the Blow to Fall!" (Zarqawi's Lament) and
"Zarkman is Bad PR!" Both posted at
BrainSurgeryWithSpoons.blogspot.com Snarfo | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:05 pm | #
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Oh, by the way, I REALLY hope that it was the second 500-pounder that got the Z-man! always_right | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:14 pm | #
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Between Zarqawi's death, the fully-formed Iraqi Cabinet, electoral losses, and a rip-roaring wealth-creating economy, this is turning out to be a horrible week for the godless left. No wonder they're losing it. GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:34 pm | #
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One thing that always inspires me about the total insanity of the left is the emotion.
Yeah, "GLOBAL WARMING! GLOBAL WARMING! It's our MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN 2006 AND 2008!"
In other words, democrats are going to try and instill "fear" into Americans (like GWB did with "terror"?) to scam people into voting for them.
THE important factor of this? Terrorists are REAL. You can SEE THEM and SEE THE DESTRUCTION. They can be KILLED. It is an issue that can be dealt with and snuffed out.
Global warming? Ah, not so much.
They'd rather fight an imaginary battle than a REAL battle. dsmith | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:34 pm | #
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The reactions would almost be amusing, provided they weren't so sadly predicable.
How could they not put aside the hate for just a mere second, and be happy for the Iraqi people.
I almost feel pity for the leftists spouting this tripe. dee | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:38 pm | #
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"Bush's idea of justice is bombs falling out of the sky?"
Can't speak for Bush, but it works for me! Fausta | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:39 pm | #
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Dr. Pat;
I just linked to this from Polipundit. Oak Leaf | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:40 pm | #
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Oh, a funny side note. Skinner, the admin at DU, finally had to put up a post saying "skepticism is good, but outright denial is not."
Apparently, the DUmmies don't believe Zarqawi is actually dead. So much so, that he had to nip it, in case they'd look like the fools they are. dsmith | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:41 pm | #
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For 3-4 years the repeated mantra has been "You haven't gotten Bin Laden or Zarqawi." Now, they act as if they've never uttered that nonsense. Narenta | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:48 pm | #
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"What a wonderful demonstration of liberal idiocy when it comes to National Security. All they have is 'what threat?'."
"What threat?" indeed!
Similar to the non-reaction by Condi to the PDB titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike US". After reading this, it seems that the Decider decided...to go on vacation.
For a month.
What was the date of that briefing, again? The Decider In Chief | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:54 pm | #
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Thanks, Oak Leaf! Dr. Sanity | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 1:54 pm | #
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another terrorist supporting idiot...
http://www.mcomike.com/
ultimate_...tary_disrespect
Okay, so it's pretty much international news that the almighty, violent U.S. military has killed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Now, the military touted his picture for the media, and world to see.
Yep, they're showing off his dead face. It's not a graphic photo, but plenty of blood. He looks like he's sleeping, so he probably didn't suffer much, sorry to tell ya, military pukes.
I think that this is the ultimate disrespect. I won't post his picture, because I personally consider him to be a fighter for his cause, and somewhat of a hero because of that. Yes, his cause was violent, too, but at least he had the balls to stand up for it.
How dare the military show off his dead corpse? Doesn't that violate the Geneva Convetion or something, as he was technically their victim, or prisoner?
For the military to show off his picture, it's an ultimate sign of how violent, and revenge-hungry those pigs are. I hope that when the next U.S. soldier dies, some militant snaps their picture and touts it all over the globe.
An open note to the U.S. military: Pigs, all. cathymv | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:03 pm | #
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dsmith - You're probably correct in predicting denials of Zarqawi's death. Expect Zarqawi sightings near grassy knolls or lurking in Karl Rove's shadow. We'll need lots of popcorn to watch to the impending moonbat show. Should be fun in a macabre way. GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:04 pm | #
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I followed the link on this site to the Daily Kos, and saw the comment "yee haw."
As an non-American (I'm Irish), here's what I immediately think - without conscious effort or realisation: vicious, bigoted, anti-American. I think about how these people are desperate for the troops to fail, while hiding around a paper-version of the Stars and Stripes, ready to rip it to shreds at a moment's notice, so as to denounce their homeland as soon as is politically advantageous.
Yes, goddamit, this IS a debate about Americanism and the defense of America. What else could the war on terror be? It's not about saving lives, it's far more important than that: it's about stopping anti-civilisationists.
The kneejerk anti-South rhetoric smacks of stuffy little brats who've never ventured out of New England, NY or California. I have travelled over a good deal of the US, and have never had reason to complain. That's the point: the people are generally good people, and the class-baiting (for that is what it is: an neo-British class-ism) propagated by the Leftists is derisory, insulting and induces a split down the country.
The world cannot afford for these crettins to succeed to divide America. John Lalor | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:22 pm | #
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What is this? Why am I being libeled in Dr Sanity's comments section by "Moe"?
I have never visited this page until today (when I found a link to my blog from it in my hit counter). I certainly didn't post any of the comments made by "Nate" (whose email address makes it QUITE clear that his last name is Holmes). Nor am I a "notorious troll."
Please delete that vicious, stupid, and libelous comment by Moe, Dr. Sanity. Nate Charlow | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:31 pm | #
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cathymv: But you support the troops, right? Cousin Dave | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:34 pm | #
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I love the after the fact games of 'gotcha' the left love playing... so Bush was told in August 2001 that OBL wanted to do something bad to us? So what? Unless that intel briefing had names, places, times, and flight numbers thanks to the "wall" Clinton's White house built between the CIA and FBI, there's not a whole lot Bush could have done to 'save us'.
So they claim "airplanes" were involved? Yeah...and short of grounding the whole fleet for an indefinate period of time for no apparent reason other than 'intel' what practical thing could he have done?
But details never matter - it's the rhetorical "a ha!" effect that the left seeks. Like estate taxes. Why it's moral to tax the rich is never explained. Is their wealth ILLEGAL? Um, no. Is it UNFAIR for them to have amassed wealth over a lifetime? Um, no. Well then? Why the glee to tax people when they die?
The Left triumphantly points to bloodshed (almost all of it CAUSED by terrorists) and say "Bush fails to stop bloodshed" or "Bush's war on Iraq is to BLAME for bloodshed". That's why Haditha is such a big deal for them.... all these years they've suffered cognative dissonnance between their agit-prop claims (the USA IS THE MURDERER) and reality (Al Qaeda, and other Muslims are the ones killing women and children by the thousands, not the USA). Now they get to say "a ha! at long last proof that the USA is not perfect!"
Words fail me.
OK back again. These leftists must NEVER be allowed in the driver's seat again. John | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:36 pm | #
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Thanks for the clarification, Nate. We tend to regard troll warnings as pink flags, not red flags, anyway. Assistant Village Idiot | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:50 pm | #
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I just finished writing a peace regarding the death of Zarqawi, and how illogical the beliefs of Michael Berg are (as we all know).
Here is an excerpt:
"According to liberals, violence only breeds violence. Therefore inaction towards and appeasement of clear and visible threats to peace and democracy will yield inevitable, utopian, global peace. Just ask Sir Neville Chamberlain."
Take a look if you have time.
-LGF member Seven_Stripes
Dave Ursillo Jr Seven_stripes | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 2:52 pm | #
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Spot on John Lalor. Resident Alien | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:05 pm | #
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Funny to see nate whine about libelous comments. Although, I suppose he would know what one looks like.
There's a phrase that comes to mind, something about being able to take it when you dish it out. Must not apply to nate.
It's fantastic that Zarqawi is dead, and sad that so many on the left cannot bring themselves to simply rejoice over the death of such a murderous man. Sad, but hardly surprising. Defense Guy | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:09 pm | #
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Cathy obviously doesn't remember the outcry of the left and the MSM when they were denied the chance to take pictures of the flag draped coffins of American heroes to further their own warped agenda.
Only someone on the left could twist their own logic around enough to feel that showing dead American service members is good and showing dead terrorists is bad. SSG K | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:12 pm | #
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Actually, it looks like Cathy was quoting from the link she posted.
Let's see if this works Patrick Chester | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:24 pm | #
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Yay. The blockquote tags work here. Using it when quoting something you don't agree with can be helpful in avoiding friendly fire incidents.  Patrick Chester | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:25 pm | #
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Gotta stick up for CathyMV here. She wasn't expressing her own opinion -- she was quoting a "terrorist usupporting idiot" (her words) at mcomike.com. I didn't follow the link to that site, as I didn't want to give it any hits. Nerd with Glasses | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:28 pm | #
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Dang, if I'm going to quote someone, I should learn to type "terrorist supporting idiot" correctly. :-P Sorry, all. Nerd with Glasses | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:30 pm | #
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Guys, reread Cathy's post again. The first line is her statement/opinion of the rest of it which is the body of the link included in her post. Cindi | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:30 pm | #
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This is the terrorist equivalent of killing off Prince Charles - no real power and nobody liked him very much. Sure, the world's better of with him gone, but the violence will worsen. blogenfreude | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:33 pm | #
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PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
You are at war with Middle Eastern terrorists.
You are not at war with The Left.
Those of you who would devote one paragraph to the killing of a terrorist in the Middle East, and then go on and on and on about how The Left feels about it, just don't get it. The vast majority of Americans are glad to see this. You are selectively picking and choosing (and taking out of context) quotes from people on the Internet, and using them to demonize roughly half the country. You people are shameful, and you're about the furthest thing from a patriot. Get a life. Isaac | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:46 pm | #
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Isaac, could you please provide the 'context' that would somehow alleviate all bile spewed from these peoples mouths?
Because if they had just said, "Happy he's dead, but the violence will worsen" that's one thing.
But to start talking about the 'timing of this to help bush' and 'he didn't really exist anyway he was a creation of a pentagon psyops program' then you really have to examine how very far gone most of these people are.
But hey, WE'RE the ones who are shameful.
Just what color IS the sky in your warped world? Tigger | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 3:55 pm | #
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Just about all of the posts referenced express happiness that the guy was killed, though you certainly wouldn't show that here.
Using tinfoil-hat people as representatives of The Left is like using Fred Phelps as an example of The Right.
Do you not see a problem when all of you people are more focused on "the reaction of The Left than you are on the freaking war itself?
You are unwittingly proving that you are no better than those who you gleefully mock. Isaac | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:00 pm | #
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You provided links so I looked. You are selectively quoting bits and pieces and misquoting to give a misleading view of those blogs to fit your view of those people rather than the reality. Clarity | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:09 pm | #
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Thank you, Clarity. Your name suits you well. Isaac | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:23 pm | #
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Clarity -
If you smear shit on your head, it doesn't matter that the rest of you is 'clean'. You're still going to smell bad, no matter how much perfume you spray yourself down with, and people are going to regard you with distaste. Unless, of course, you hang out with other people who regularly smear shit on their heads, in which case you can consider yourself normal and all the REST of the people who DON'T smear shit on their heads are the freaks. Clearasil | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:26 pm | #
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Found this... It Shines For All
Right now, I'm in the media room at YearlyKos, listening to liberal bloggers and activists fret about how to spin the killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Hope he's in full stealth mode, and biohazard gear to boot...
And Atrios gives our military a "Good job!" rating.
Well, not really. I was just joking about the 'good job' thing.
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Our overlords tell us now what is a "good" behavior and what is a "NOT good" behavior.
/sarc
If Dr. Sanity does not object to my comments with regards to both Zarqawi's death and my response to the Left's reaction, I don't see how Isaac and Clarity should impose these rules as we can only comment exclusively on Z death on her blog. If you guys want us to believe the general left truly express happiness at his death, round up those with links or do it on your own blogs. always_right | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:33 pm | #
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Using tinfoil-hat people as representatives of The Left is like using Fred Phelps as an example of The Right.
Um, Isaac, you do know that Phelps is a Democrat, an old friend of Al Gore's? In any case, Phelps is off the spectrum. Or around the back side of it, where the far left and the far right meet under the banner of authoritarian absolutism. Tully | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:49 pm | #
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That, always_right, I would love to see. These lefties can't win an argument (and they are acting more deluded than ever) so they can only carp on about our reactions to their traitorous rantings. And don't you just love how the death of Z is showing them to be the hypocrits that we always knew they are.
I believe this paragraph from the NothingButCrap network "report" pretty much say's it all: NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself — but never pulled the trigger. Can they and those that spout this as relevent not see the true idiocy of this statement? Boggles the mind.
And to Clarity: Listen honey, you lie down with the dogs, your gonna wake up with fleas, babe. Best to distance yourself from the unhinged loons and the fever swamps while you still can girl. Run like the wind.
Isaac - You lost and your lost. Get over it.
As the good OBH commented ever so sucinctly: "Loons all"
Strike up the band and thank our military however you can. This is a huge victory for the USA! Dude | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 4:59 pm | #
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I do not know why anyone would find their reaction the least bit surprising. The only thing the morally bankrupt LLL's are against is the United States. Nahanni | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 5:06 pm | #
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Certain Massachusetts communities will hold a candlelight vigil tonight to commemorate the death of a true freedom fighter... Bandit | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 5:06 pm | #
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Isaac: I agree that the Right should not be at war with the Left, or consider itself at war. As a conservative living in the left-wing paradise of Santa Fe, I deal with liberals (my friends) every day, without rancor but with a lot of argument. Unfortunately, a substantial portion of the Left considers itself at war with the Right. How else can you interpret these comments? I'm going to invest in ALCOA and other such companies. Tin foil will soon be in short supply. Narenta | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 5:10 pm | #
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I get kinda tired of that "We coulda got Zarqawi before the war" line because it's patently false. It's always presented as a certainty. At best it was never better than a very vague possibility.
We knew where that "camp" was, but that "camp" was actually several hundred Ansar al-Islam guerillas dispersed through a captive native population of many thousand spread out over many many square miles of mountainous countryside. We had no inside sources to tell us when Zarqawi was there, or where in that large grid he might be. Instantly carpet-bombing an area the size of Rhode Island (if even possible) would have killed many times more innocent civilians than Ansar guerillas, and the odds of Zarqawi actually being there at the time were small.
The line is, IOW, steer manure. Tully | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 5:31 pm | #
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Tully, let's also not forget that almost as important as killing the likes of Zarqawi is being able to collect remains for DNA testing and *prove* we killed him.
If we don't have the resources to do that in the wake of a strike, nothing keeps the followers from whisking the body away, burying it somewhere we can't get to it, and then claiming we missed. For Zarqawi, we were able to do this last night.
I am sure we have had good intel on UBL's whereabouts in the past couple of years, but didn't pull the trigger out of an inability for us to get assets there to pull enough mangled remains from the rubble to prove that he didn't escape---and being able to conclusively prove we killed UBL is at least as important as killing him. RS | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 6:07 pm | #
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After reading the comments on the leftist bloggers sites, I only have one thing to say:
What is wrong with these people? Is it impossible for them to take pride in their country? I am ashamed that I was once, because of heredity, a Democrat. If this is what the Islamic world is fighting against, we are doomed to death or dhimmitude. Joseph McNuly | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 6:38 pm | #
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RS--I don't do conspiracy. Bring evidence. Verifiable and reliable evidence.
JM, it pays to not lump everyone together. The noisy hate-Bush-obsessed left is not the same as the entire Democratic party. Much as I hate to defend the Democratic party nowadays. Pete Stark is not the mainstream of the party.
Remember, there's only two kinds of people in the world. Those that dichotimize, and those that don't.  Tully | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 7:22 pm | #
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Damn lefties at wsj
http://online.wsj.com/article/
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ZARQAWI'S EFFECT ON OIL: One reason oil prices eventually stabilized: Many traders realized soon enough that the welcome end of one menace in Iraq didn't mean crude oil was suddenly free to gush from Iraq's pipes. Sectarian and insurgent violence won't end tomorrow. Iraq's oil infrastructure, meanwhile, was in awful shape after decades of neglect even before Saddam fell in 2003, and there hasn't been time or security enough to rebuild it yet. "The end of Zarqawi will not be the end of threats to oil exports in Iraq,'' said Mustafa Alani, an Iraq expert at the Gulf Research Council in Dubai. Meanwhile, oil's early declines might have had at least as much to do with global economic jitters and stock selloffs as with the death of Mr. Zarqawi.
more commie propaganda
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Arab and Western security analysts were agreed on Thursday that Zarqawi's death in a U.S. air raid would not end the insurgency, even if it represents a rare triumph in Iraq for the Bush administration.
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Some security analysts played down the impact of his death, saying Zarqawi's network represented only a fraction of the wider insurgency in which less extreme resistance groups had gained in strength.
“Zarqawi’s death will not in itself end the violence in Iraq,” said the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad. “But it is an important step in the right direction.”
and worst of all the traitor Rumsfeld
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Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said today that while the death of terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is a significant victory in the war on terror, it won't end terrorism.
"Given the nature of the terrorist networks, really a network of networks, the death of Zarqawi, while enormously important, will not mean the end of all violence in that country," Rumsfeld told reporters. Sam Jackson | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 9:41 pm | #
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Re the Wacko bloggers and Zarqawi.
Any truth that his spiritual adviser's last words were "I ain't got no body"?
And is there any truth to the rumor that the Air Force called Zarqawi on his cell phone and said "Look out the windown, smuck".?
Looks like Zaq and his buddies can no longer get a head in this war.
Just wait till they get to heaven and find out that all 72 virgins look and smell like Helen Thomas!
Rep. Pete Stark is just living up to his name, Stark Raving Mad Pete. Previously known as "Friend of Hanoi" from the old days. Another example of a rich, "liberal" Democrat who is against America. Wonder if he is for the "death tax"?
Re Daily Kos: DO you know that Kos in Albania means "brainless"? No, get an Albanian dictionary and check it out.
Also in the Albanian dictionary under the word for "crazy" you will find pictures of Murtha, Hillary, Sheehan, McKinney, Kerry, Gore, Kucinich, Reid, Durbin, and Nick Berg's father.
The Albanians felt that pictures would better define the word for crazy than any written definition.
These Albanians are way ahead of the curve in diagnosing the mentally ill, n'est pas?
They don't call me
"Madmax" for nothing. But as Mel Gibson said in "Lethal Weapon" - "I'm not really crazy" (I just want you to think that I am). Max Friedman | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 9:47 pm | #
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Re the moonbat bloggers
Is it ok to question their patriotism now? Tom the Redhunter | Email | Homepage | 06.08.06 - 10:36 pm | #
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Tully, what I meant to address is the "We Had Zarqawi in our sights 2 years ago, but Z0MGWTFL0LB***0000$H1TLERBURTONCO wanted to fight a whole war instead!1!!1" idiocy from some Lefties. I am optimistic that someday we will get UBL, or at least know his fate. When we do, I am sure that there will be an occasion or two that will hit the media where we had semi-decent information on where he was before that, but didn't pull the trigger for very good reasons, such as reasons both you and I mentioned. I think it is more symptomatic of the anti-military attitude taken by the Baby Boomers and translated down to the following generations as a bias against serving in the military by the elite---leaving them misinformed and easily disinformed about military matters. RS | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:25 am | #
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Re: The fools who label the trecherous comments above as being the sole possessions of the 'extreme left'.
Haven't you convienently forgotten several things?
For instance, that the democratic party considers Kos mainstream. Otherwise, why would the man they thought was mainstream enough to be their canidate for president, Kerry, cultivate such close ties with Kos?
Or Micheal Moore's prominent invite to their convention
Or the villification of Sen. Leiberman? Or Zell Miller?
This 'moderate democrat' myth is disproven by the fact that actual moderate democrats cannot get past democratic primaries.
The foam-specked spittle of Kos/DU/etc is exactly what the democratic leadership believes. Obviously, the politicans' words are more circumspect. Otherwise they wouldn't be politicans. But if you look at their ACTIONS, they don't deviate from Kos one fraction of a millimeter, as if they were syncronized dancers.
Don't believe me? Watch what the dem leadership says. Not the actual words, but the thrust of the argument. If you detect a lot of "Yes, but..." ... "Yes, it's wonderful that Z's dead, but..." then congradulations, you've just uncovered the latest Kos/Dem dance move. Ryan Waxx | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:25 am | #
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The most hilarious thing about the "we could have had Z, but..." claims is that those claims rest upon intel. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, intel -- the same thing that the Left harangues Bush about for relying on in the buildup to OIF. So these folk are putting their superpowers on display! "I know, simply know that the Al Z intel was good good good, but that the WMD intel was bad bad bad." The self-delusion of the Left never stops. InRussetShadows | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 7:27 am | #
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it's sad when people dont even have the decency to be happy that a sadistic and ruthless serial killer like zarqawi is killed before he can do more harm to anyone else.
Shame on the posters of the sites mentioned here. Have they made space for the framed zarqawi picture alongside the jeffrey dahmer one above your fireplace ? Ordered Zarqawi freedom fighter t-shirt and mugs?
Zarq == dead , world cup starts today.. allah sodding akbar onex | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 8:10 am | #
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Moe, thanks for the word on Nate. If he cannot appreciate the lives saved from future Z attacks, I would not expect there is any hope for his kind. I always wonder if these people had bad parents or what went wrong in their lives that they grew up so selfish. Thom | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 10:26 am | #
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I think they showed too much respect for Zarqawi by putting his dead face in a picture frame--with matting. I would have made a dartboard out of it. Junior | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 11:24 am | #
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I'm just sad to see the pessimism from these quotes and the sites they come from. They are pessimistic about the death of Zarqawi and its potential effect when there is no doubt these commenters have anything invested in our success. It also sad to see the pessimism about our country, our government, our culture, our military, and our future.
Not being a pessimist, I find this point of view pathetic and not progressive in any way. jcrue | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 12:04 pm | #
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According to either Big Pharaoh or Sandmonkey (both blogging from Cairo), "Kos" is Egyptian slang for "Pussy"... Headless Unicorn Guy | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 12:49 pm | #
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> "During the news conference, General George Casey said al-Zarqawi’s death would not end the insurgency. That’s for sure. It’s pathetic that Casey has to remind everyone that this doesn’t solve our challenges in Iraq,
What's PATHETIC is that if the Bush Admin DID NOT cover its ass this way, the Left would be whining inside of weeks that they'd somehow claimed it was the end of the guerilla war. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:38 pm | #
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> You guys are going to give Michael a headache. Talking about little things like Fact, when he has faith.
James, Michael doesn't have faith. He has certainty. Certainty that he is utterly correct. Certainty that those who disagree are ignorant, stupid fools. Certainty that there is no possible way he would ever have a wrong notion in his head.
In the face of such Certainty, facts mean, as you correctly surmise -- very very little. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:43 pm | #
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> Smoke doesn't always come from fire.
No, but I have noticed a lot of it blowing out of a lot of Lefty asses of late... Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:45 pm | #
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> Between Zarqawi's death, the...
Gnu, you forgot the Canadian Terrorist Cell. Give'em their PhD's in Ignominiously Wrong. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:47 pm | #
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> So much so, that he had to nip it, in case they'd look like the fools they are.
Too late. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 1:49 pm | #
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> cathymv: But you support the troops, right?
Dave, she's quoting the idiot, i think, not supporting him. That's rather unclear from the entry, I agree. She should have structured it better.
And he is an idiot.
Is it possible to be a troll in your own blog? I think that seems to define this twit.
You've heard of "milblogs"? Well, that's a "trollblog". He's just posting to see what kind of ire he can stir up. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 2:03 pm | #
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> This is the terrorist equivalent of killing off Prince Charles - no real power and nobody liked him very much. Sure, the world's better of with him gone, but the violence will worsen.
blogenfreude
We'll be happy to throw that in your face when it slacks off substantially more (it's already been on a steady decline as Dr. Zarqoff ran out of idiots willing to blow themselves up for his aggrandizement) over the coming months, tony. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 2:07 pm | #
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> The noisy hate-Bush-obsessed left is not the same as the entire Democratic party.
Tully, that's pretty much like claiming that the radical Islamists are not the whole of Islam.
True, no argument, but, when your mouth stays shut, you eventually tar yourself with the brush of tacit support.
When your leaders are the likes of Dean, Kerry, Pelosi, and Reid (and when HILLARY represents the "middle"!! LOL), when your spokesmen are Michael Moore and Tim Robbins, one really has to ask the question, "Where are the more moderate voices of dissent"? Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 2:17 pm | #
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> I am optimistic that someday we will get UBL,
RS, I maintain that we ALREADY GOT Osama. His bones are attached to some rotting wormfood under a quarter mile of Afghani mountain rock.
His "appearances" since 2004 have all differed MASSIVELY in tone and attitude from pre-04 vids. All the footage is indescript and could easily come from any date any time, with a soundalike voiceover reading from a script by a Michael Moore wannabe.
Our forensics experts would know it was fake, of course, but it may well be that we have decided that a non-appearing figurehead is less dangerous to our overall interests than a dead martyr -- that the propaganda value to the Left of OBL alive is worth less than the propaganda to the jihadi of OBL dead in the service of The Cause. Oh Blutige Hölle | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 2:27 pm | #
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> another terrorist supporting idiot...
I believe we should show Zarqawi all the respect he deserves.
He should have a state funeral, whereupon the end of which his body is ground up in a sausage maker with pork products, pig shit, and pig urine, then incinerated, and the ashes strewn in the mud at a pig farm, to be shat on by pigs for decades.
I repeat: I believe we should show Zarqawi (PSBUH*) all the respect he deserves.
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*Pig Shit Be Upon Him. PSBUH | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 2:32 pm | #
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Blutige, that was perfect! ...with a soundalike voiceover reading from a script by a Michael Moore (PSBUH) wannabe.
LOLOLOL.
Happy weekend all. Keep our troops in your thoughts and prayers. Dude | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 4:47 pm | #
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I respect Sanity's fortitude in actually reading that kind of stuff. Ymarsakar | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 5:20 pm | #
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Hey, hey, hey! OBH, watch it when you call people idiots.
We have our pride, y'know, and professional standards, and even we don't believe that stuff. Assistant Village Idiot | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 6:38 pm | #
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You have mighty big brass balls, refering to yourself as Dr. Sanity. Hats off to you, sir, hats off. Robert L Bell | Email | Homepage | 06.09.06 - 9:18 pm | #
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> Hats off to you, sir, hats off.
So says the clueless wonder,
So says the clueless wonder.
LMAO... obloodyhell | Email | Homepage | 06.11.06 - 1:05 am | #
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YAY! I'm linking this to as many sites as I can. More sane people need to know what goes on in the minds of bushes loyalists, lobbyists, and other republican supporters! Let them see for themselves the desires and motivations. The things you say here should definitely be seen by as many as possible. Let the people decide what to do with you. noodles | Email | Homepage | 07.20.06 - 9:20 pm | #
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