I think willfully blind is more common than stupid. We hope it will go away if we don't think about it.

But the heart knows when it has turned away from facing injustice, and so finds some other, smaller, safer target upon which to vent its wrath
Assistant Village Idiot | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:30 am | #

I tried to listen last night to ahmadnejad at the UN and had a similar reaction, wondering who could possibly think he was telling the truth. The UN is completely useless as a force for good in the world.
AnotherGuy | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:30 am | #

DR Sanity, I have to congratulate you for the perseverance and fortitude to attempt to listen to Ahmadinejad. Having had the experience of living under a communist system, I have learned to spare myself such torture.
What I find more appalling it is the CLOWNS who listen to the speech and then try to comment intelligently on its contents, as if that was possible, and do not seem to realize the enormous stupidity of their undertaking. I would find quoting the text of the speech and giving the reasons for no accompanying commentary whatsoever the proper way to deal with his speech at the UN. In other words I agree with you fully!
Luc
Luc | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:55 am | #

Thanks for a great piece. I read Bush's speech. It was moving. Good vs. Evil has never been more clearly set side by side. It is tragic that the blindness of the MSM prevents them from reporting the whole truth.
REI | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 9:22 am | #

As Oriana Fallaci told Tunku Varadarajan last year, ""You cannot survive if you do not know the past."

When GW and others spoke of Islamic fascism, comparing today's gathering darkness with the rise of Hitler in the run-up to World War II, history-challenged MSM types -- presumably blinded by BDS -- scoffed. I wonder whether Brian Williams scoffed when the delusional Ahmanejad informed him “The U.S. government thinks that it’s still the period after World War II.”
Sissy Willis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 10:08 am | #

Only in a world that values nothing would there not be instantaneous outrage at the lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe offered for world consumption by a man who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it. How could such a man be given the world stage to spew forth his lies, let alone be feted and honored for them? How could most--if not all--of the rest of the world swallow whole the protestations of sincerity and victimhood? How could it be conveniently forgotten what his real intentions and attitudes are even for a moment as he coyly presents himself as a simple man of peace and brotherhood?

Dr. Sanity(?), I must protest your vicious attack on our President, George W. Bush. While it is true that his speeches and public utterances are filled with lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe ; and Bush is wihtout a doubt someone who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it; and is constitutinally unable to do other than spew forth his lies, he IS the president of the United States and is due some deference.
bob lewis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 10:35 am | #

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"...Only in a world that values nothing would there not be instantaneous outrage at the lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe offered for world consumption by a man who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it. How could such a man be given the world stage to spew forth his lies, let alone be feted and honored for them?"
well, our forefathers in all their wisdom gave us a republic. unfortunately they probably didn't foresee this, and we are stuck with him for a couple more years.
jay k. | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 10:53 am | #

Polly want a cracker?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:08 am | #

bob lewis 09.20.06 - 10:35 am

You did not have to modify the format of your post to make it stand out; its content does the that trick as it encompasses the full spectrum of BDS and stupidity. Congratulations for your remarcable achievement!!
Luc | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:09 am | #

But, oh, how clever is the audacious audacity of distorting reality in order to reveal a higher truth about themselves, the dhimmis - l and jk - that their idiocy has exceeded itself yet once again. Amadinejad rules! [pbuh] Down with Bush, the incompetent, yet perfect, Evil.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:22 am | #

Luc, I didn't even consider listening to Nutjob, but for a second, when the torture of it then proved too great. Strangely, I find I much prefer panties on my head.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:31 am | #

Removing the fence between a lit match and a stick of dynamite - Wretchard. That was good.

Maybe we all gonna' blow up good, real good, yeah good. Unless, perhaps, we can make the Islamofascists and their dhimmis sweat enough to not need the match. Any such luck? The Nov. elections might show us something, that is, if we get out to vote.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:41 am | #

it's nice to know we can count on peden to be "...willing and eager to embrace pseudoreality and suspend judgement and critical thinking..." so that he/she can "...temporarily feel good about themselves..."
jay k. | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:44 am | #

pbuh - panties be upon him?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:49 am | #

Luc-

Congratulations on your "remarcable achievement" in spelling.
bob lewis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:50 am | #

Polly want a cracker?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:50 am | #

Nice use of capitals, Bob.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:51 am | #

Taqiyyah...
suek | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:57 am | #

Nice pidgin-English, J. Peden.
bob lewis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:59 am | #

Spoken well, for a Parrot, Bob.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:06 pm | #

bob lewis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:50 am

“Luc- Congratulations on your "remarcable achievement" in spelling.

Thank you for pointing out my spelling mistake. Fortunately for me the error is easily corrected by using spell check next time; your error in judgement requires the long term intervention of a professional like Dr. Sanity and, even then correction may be impossible. Cheers,
Luc | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:06 pm | #

Luc-

In order to receive the benefit of the spell checker - you need to know when to use it.

And your "judgement" apparently is so bad you trust yourself to know how to spell. A common mistake 'mongst morons.

As for Dr. Sanity - an interesting self-appointed nom de plume for an alleged psychiatrist - would like to know what benighted med school gave HER a diploma.
bob lewis | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:13 pm | #

Bob, ad hominems are unbecoming of someone who thinks he 'thinks' better than others.

Secondly, your claim that Bush and not "Imamadnutjob" is the greast threat needs evidence. You claim Bush lies. Prove it. With quotes. From official sources.

Anyone can ASSERT something, but proving it is another matter.
John | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:19 pm | #

Bob, you are eating a lot of Crow and don't even know it. Do you recognize that the Islamofascists want you to buy lunch?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:23 pm | #

And Bob, what benighted University do you teach at?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:25 pm | #

When I started posting comments on the net, I kinda figgered that it wouldn't be wise to insult the Host. What sayeth thou, bob?
Tom TB | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:26 pm | #

"Bush is wihtout a doubt someone who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it"

Bush is no Hugo Chavez, or Ahmadinejad, or, even on a infinitesmally small scale, YOU, Bob Lewis.

YOU do lie, Bob.
jgr | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:52 pm | #

You're so right. This is great.

"Only in a world that values nothing would there not be instantaneous outrage at the lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe offered for world consumption by a man who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it."

I don't understand it either. And he was elected twice? Well, I mean if you count the SCOTUS installing him. But either way, you nailed it. Bush needs to be confronted.

"How has it come to pass that the stupid and the willfully blind are once again so unwilling to confront the true malignancy that threatens world peace; even as they forcefully denounce anyone who exposes their delusions?"

I don't know. But the Right seems to have gone a little crazy in the head. There's no reaching them anymore.

Well put.
Nezua Limón Xolagrafik-Jonez | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:53 pm | #

Polly want a cracker? Or is that Cindy Sheehan who just flew in from Outer Space?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:56 pm | #

Tom TB, it appears Bob has flown back to the Cultiary to learn some more correct noises. So I'll defend him: Bob is not insulting anyone, he's showing us a more sublime truth. Please try to "understand" the Bobs not of this World. Otherwise, they will have to resort to the Americans With Disabilities Act, and we won't be able to park anywhere at all.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 12:57 pm | #

SCOTUS didn't give Bush the 2000 election they merely upheld Florida election law from being changed ex post facto. All the MSM recounts though proved that Bush won.

He also won in 2004 - fair and square, even with the Left launching Pop-star campaigns called "Vote or Die"!

"Bush needs to be confronted." What? You mean 5 years of non-stop leftists antagonism isn't "confronted"? Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan, and hosts of celebs calling him names - some to his face - isn't "confrontation"?

They howl with rage - even making movies glorifying his assassination, and nothing at all happens to them: none are arrested, none 'disappear', none lose visas or other freedoms. Yet they're convinced they're brave and courageous standing up to 'the man'???

These same 'brave souls' who denigrate Bush say nary a peep when artists are being slaughtered for daring to draw cartoons that Muslims 'find offensive' - but they will go out of their way to heap praise on other artists who offend Catholics!
John | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:01 pm | #

Ahmadinejad's bizarre speech was clearly directed at the dimmer bulbs in the West -- that is, the left-leaning appeasement crowd. The man has long since abandoned reality, but he understands just enough to know that if he mouths the right words (i.e. peace, brotherhood, justice, etc.) the more sluggish minds will ignore his unambiguous intention to exterminate Western democracy, starting with Israel.

The modern-day eunuchs -- Neville Chamberlain's heirs to appeasement -- are comprised of anti-Bush Democrats, and Ahmadinejad is counting on them to allow his nuclear weaponry ambitions to fully ripen.

Luckily for civilization, Bush won't let that happen.
GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:17 pm | #

Thank's John, from me, but if the people you are talking to haven't heard the facts yet and seen the false nature of their logic, your efforts will be to no avail, at least in getting them to see what's going on.

I'll also add, in futility, that whatever Bush won by in 2004 needs to be increased by the 500,000 popular votes he lost by in 2000.

By the rights of conventional wisdom, Bush should have lost by millions of votes in 2000. What's happening? Oh, it couldn't be the nature of the Democrat Party, could it?

The Democrats are using the wrong "conventional wisdom", even morphing into full fantasy mode to meet the Fliberal Cult and the Islamofascists. So how can they win? Are they next going to try to give terrorists the right to vote?

Watch for an October Surprise.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:28 pm | #

How many Muslims are murdered EACH DAY by other Muslims?
For how many days, months, years, decades?

To echo John, it's stupid that these same "'brave souls' who denigrate Bush say nary a peep" ABOUT this ceaseless slaughter by Islamists.
Of their own kind.

Or of Christians, as in the Sudan.

Perhaps Nezua and Bob NEED to be CONFRONTED by the dead bodies.
jgr | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:38 pm | #

Fliberals never confront anything. They are always in full retreat from reality, including from themselves.

Otherwise, we would have heard at least one thing which makes sense, other than their recent admission about distorting reality - which they, as usual, think is a good thing. Instead they have also even asserted exactly what I claimed to begin with.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:45 pm | #

Hunh-hunh, duuh, yeah, isn't it really creative to go onto Dr Sanity's blog and turn all her comments about Ahmadnutjob onto CH1MPYBU$HMCHITLERBURTONCO at the same time? Wow, what originality and creativity.
RS | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:48 pm | #

Parrots
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 1:56 pm | #

Here's the kicker: It's not Ahmadnutjob who is the problem. He is only the puppet of the mullahs. He's not doing a damn thing he wasn't told to do by those nutballs. He was "elected" because in the wake of being surrounded by US troops, the mullahs wanted to consolidate their power in order to prevent a well-deserved swinging from the lamppost.
RS | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 2:09 pm | #

"being surrounded by US troops...prevent a well-deserved swinging from the lamppost." RS

While Bush has been "ignoring" Iran, Iran has been about surrounded, now with NATO involved. I guess Bush just got lucky.

Any guesses as to how the Iranian populace is responding to the Nutjob? I hope someone is dropping in cell phones and internet access, somehow. This is one of Bill Wattenberg's ideas, which he is avidly working on with other Lawrence Livermore scientists.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 2:26 pm | #

The first time I saw a picture of him was the day he was "elected". I remember clearly remarking to my colleagues that he reminded me of Adolf Hitler. In Hugo Chavez he has found his Mussolini. I look forward to seeing the both of them hanging from a lamp post. Do they really imagine that we shall just sit back and take it? Have they no understanding of history at all? Is it possible that they truly believe they can win?

A terrible fate awaits them, and all who are seduced by their demonic ideology. Hegemony indeed.
licence to spill | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 3:04 pm | #

Every moronic comment comparing Bush to the Iranian president is another vote for the Republicans. There is a sort of beauty in that, IMO.
Defense Guy | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 3:06 pm | #

So every time a moonbat drools, a GOP angel gets his or her wings?
RS | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:05 pm | #

Ha, ha!! Right-wingers are idiots.

Surely you were talking about Bush:

Both ends of this spectrum of stupidity are incapable of responding in any appropriate manner to the deeply despicable and nauseatingly hypocritical speech the lying President of [THE U.S.] delivered at the UN last night.... Only in a world that values nothing would there not be instantaneous outrage at the lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe offered for world consumption by a man who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it.

There will be a special place in hell for Bush and his cronies, for the damage they have done our beloved nation.
tommo | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:11 pm | #

RS

Exectly, only in this example the angels are the rational middle of this country that really doesn't have a problem differentiating between the elected POTUS and the race hating psycho in Tehran.

The droolers very much have a problem doing the same, and we all know who they represent.
Defense Guy | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:20 pm | #

"tommo:"

Damage to our nation?

Name ONE right you have lost (or any effect on your life, for that matter) from any of the policies that the Bush administration has implemented to fight terror? Just one?

Regurgitating blind rhetoric devoid of facts and details because you have no means of independant thought and/or don't value what the other 50% of this country value does not make your memorized talking points any more truthful. It's really not all about you and your ilk.....

As for that special place in hell, it will surely be filled with hate-filled, closed-minded devils..err...."progressives" like you, I would guess.
Dave | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:35 pm | #

"There will be a special place in hell for Bush and his cronies.."

Where are YOU writing FROM, tommo?
jgr | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:35 pm | #

jgr:

He's writing from "hell on earth", which to someone sufferrring from BDS, is the USA.....
Dave | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:37 pm | #

You claim Bush lies. Prove it.

"Harriet Myers is the best person for the job."
George W. Bush

Bwaahahaha! Got ya!
Whoohoogirl | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 4:46 pm | #

What's with all the lefty trolling here?
RS | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 5:07 pm | #

the doc got linked at the Daou Report; whenever that happens they all come and trash her site. They are so totally predictable. Can't deal with anyone having thoughts they disagree with.
AnotherGuy | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 5:29 pm | #

Almost all political arguments fall into the following pattern:

Left: Assertion1
Right: Rebuttal1
Left: Assertion2
Right: Rebuttal2
Left: Assertion3
Right: Rebuttal4
...
Left: Assertion14
Right: Rebuttal14
Left: Assertion1
Right: Didn't we just cover that?
Left: Assertion2
Right: Oh, shut up.
Left: Assertion3
...
Left: See, I win!

It's a pattern I've seen over and over and over and over for decades.

It's just more vulgar and transparent than it used to be.
Merovign | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 5:44 pm | #

For those who requested some Bush lies, a favorite topic of mine, here's a smattering:

We've discovered two illegal mobile weapons labs. 5/31/03 (actually, they were trailers, and at the time, inspecters had already visited them and confirmed they were not weapons labs).

Saddam attempted to purchase uranium in Africa. (CIA warned before state of the union; Bush evades responsibiilty by saying Hadley never warned him; so either Bush is too stupid to vet his own speeches, he's negligent when making the biggest speech of the year, or he lied. Take your pick).

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order." 2004 campaign. Good thing the "liberal" NYT held the story showing this to be a lie until after the election.

There's probably about 10-20 more outright lies and hudreds more distortions or carefully-worded evasions, and thousands of statements about Iraq which we'll find out if the Senate ever releases its report (that was supposed to come out in 2004, but the GOP continues to play politics.)
Settembrini | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 7:18 pm | #

wow. even for this end of the "spectrum" ... project much, dittohead lockstep sheep? can't wait to see the looks on your faces when you finally see where your infallible leader is really taking us ... until then, sleep tight, little sheep.
literalisp | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 7:25 pm | #

"There's probably about 10-20 more outright lies and hudreds more distortions or carefully-worded evasions, and thousands of statements about Iraq .."

Settembrini : Are you sure?!!

AFTER years of fighting terrorism in IRAQ; Afghanistan; the rest of the world: this TINY smatter of whatever you list IS ALL?
Lies? Come ON. Where are all those LIES?
PROBABLY HERE: (from M.Malkin)

"Then there were the events that were not unreported but that nonetheless still haunt me. A 31-year-old Kuwaiti woman, Asrar Qabandi, was captured by Iraqi secret police occupying her country in 1990 for "crimes," one of which included speaking with CNN on the phone. They beat her daily for two months, forcing her father to watch. In January 1991, on the eve of the American-led offensive, they smashed her skull and tore her body apart limb by limb. A plastic bag containing her body parts was left on the doorstep of her family's home. "
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/1...2145ae0& ei=5070
jgr | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 7:41 pm | #

"Harriet Myers is the best person for the job."
George W. Bush

Bwaahahaha! Got ya!
Whoohoogirl

How will you prove she is not?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:25 pm | #

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order."
SettembrinI

A wire tap does require a court order.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:27 pm | #

"Saddam attempted to purchase uranium in Africa." Settembrini

Take it up with Brit-French intelligence and with Christopher Hitchens. Did Wilson even talk to them?

I hope this topic is not really some kind of specialty for you.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 8:33 pm | #

Well, "tommo" appears to be a drive-by troll. Saw a post from someone using that name over on Wizbang that had very similar content.

Though it looks like he posted twice over there.
Patrick Chester | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 9:29 pm | #

Feel the love. Wow. -cp
cold pizza | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 9:32 pm | #

'Feel the love." cold pizza

Ha,Ha, cp, yes. But I guess we all do feel the "inner child" coming out quite irrepressibly. Got milk?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 9:57 pm | #

I guess the Parrots think there are a lot of crackers over here, having confused "rednecks" with zweiback, the baby biscuit..
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 10:43 pm | #

You guys shouldn't chase the trolls so quickly. They're fun to play with.

No, they're not. I take it back. Carry on, lads and lasses.
Assistant Village Idiot | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:00 pm | #

"Both ends of this spectrum of stupidity are incapable of responding in any appropriate manner to the deeply despicable and nauseatingly hypocritical speech the lying President delivered at the UN last night.

.........

Only in a world that values nothing would there not be instantaneous outrage at the lies, deceptions and self-serving tripe offered for world consumption by a man who clearly has no conscience and enjoys lying and distorting for the fun of it. How could such a man be given the world stage to spew forth his lies, let alone be feted and honored for them?"

...er, which president were you talking about? Sounds like GW to me.
John | Email | Homepage | 09.20.06 - 11:11 pm | #

'Just caught a little of Kurt Russell's "Soldier". He's human, but he's made to be, or has agreed that his nature almost completely will be that of a soldier. Yet slowly we see that he retains his humanity in the right ways.

Somehow he ends up in a strongly holy peace-nik enclave in the ruins of some city or world. Naturally, they kick him out because he is too violent - he kills the poisonous snakes there, and just doesn't fit. But, as expected, he has to return when the bad guys show up with a vastly superior force. He accepts no help from the enclave members, because "Soldiers deserve soldiers, sir."

In the midst of the battle, as Russell is getting some weaponry together, the female attraction says something like, "But there are so many of them, what will you do?" Russell looks at her for a few seconds and then says, "I'm going to kill them, sir."

Faux Liberals should watch it with John McCain. Was McCain really ever in the Military?
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 4:01 am | #

Merovign,

You missed a step in your analysis . You need to add after each rebuttal the following:

Left: Name calling because they lack the intellectual capacity to rebut themselves.

It should read;

Left: Assertion1 built on lies, half-truths and dissembling.
Right: Rebuttal1 built on the available facts.
Left: Name calling and the resort to four letter words.
Left: Assertion2......
And so it goes. It is the template of intellectual dishonesty.

I have to admit I like KK, though I might disagree with parts of his logic, because he at least tries to make a reasoned argument and that is what debate between citizens is supposed to be. None of us hold all the answers nor can we ignore ideas that might have some substance. The strength of our representative democracy is that we listen, debate and attempt to come to a, though not always the correct, mutually agreed upon solution.
That cannot be said for the leftist trolls who drop by to hurl names, rhetoric that is not their own, use sophistic attempts at logic and generally make everything about them.
I would say that it would be hard to believe these people graduated from a college or university, but given the lack of true scholarship in academe and the overwhelming lean to the Left I am not suprised. When they spend four years where they never hear leftist thought, if one can call it that, challenged it stands to reason that they would be incapable of rational discussion.
Dennis | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 9:58 am | #

>>Was McCain really ever in the Military?>>

That may be a good question. As I understand it, he was a Navy flyboy. Not to minimize what they do, but it isn't grunt work...
suek | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 11:27 am | #

suek, no, Navy flying ain't grunt work--it takes brains (along with an ungodly amount of courage to do those night carrier landings in wind and rain).

I'm sure the doc would agree the medical and psych screenings on military pilots are among the most rigorous to get that coveted Flying Class I stamp. Even during the Vietnam era. Then you add the 7 years of hell he spent in the Hanoi Hilton, aquitting himself honorably despite the atrocities committed by the NV--of course hh wasn't protected by GC because we didn't have a "declared" war with the VC, so our guys were treated as criminals and terrorists--exactly as we SHOULD be treating the current crop at ClubFed, GITMO.

Mr McCain deserves our utmost respect for honorable service spent.

This doesn't mean we need to bow before his ideas. With age comes the regrets of mistakes made and I think Mr McCain is reliving his private hell when he considers the subject of interrogation.

I think Mr McCain needs a cathartic release that hasn't happened yet and is projecting his own past experiences in an attempt at denial.

In the meantime, realize his opposition to President Bush is based on deep rooted unresolved emotional issues, unlikely to be swayed by logic and reason.

We really out to be doing something about clearing out all the other cobwebs in Congress and Senate--all these Vietnam era anti-establishment types who suddenly became the establishment and can't let go.

But let's not turn on an staunch supporter of conservative values because his conscience and his regrets prevent him from seeing past his own past--otherwise we become no better than the fickle Kos-crowd turning on Joe Lieberman.

I think McCain would make an excellent veep. -cp
cold pizza | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 12:50 pm | #

cp,I wouldn't disown McCain, but he needs help, including more "prodding" from us. Right now, the idea of him as veep is not comforting. He's too self-absorbed, at least at this time. [But still: compared to what?]
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 1:31 pm | #

I also wonder if Mothra was ever in the Military. Or, if at one point he spent too much time in Japan.
J. Peden | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 1:33 pm | #

Dave,

When one American loses his rights (Padilla), we all lose our rights.

Right to a fair and speedy trial.
Right to see the evidence you have been charged with.
The right to legal representation.

How many you need?
Robert | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 1:40 pm | #

So you guys asked for one lie by Bush, and you got a bushel of them.

Kind of busted your balloon that Bush didn't lie, and is just being charged by those with BDS (BDS is the stupidest excuse Bush supporters could come up with. It's his words and actions, not BDS).

Of course, there is an excuse for each and every one of them.

Maybe Bush can plead insanity.
Robert | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 1:43 pm | #

It's pretty much been confirmed that Muhammad Atta met with Saddam before 9/11.

Except when it isn't AT ALL true (or confirmed).

31% of Americans think Saddam was connected to 9/11 plot.
How does something like that happen?
Are you saying Americans just aren't that bright?
Robert | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 1:46 pm | #

The greatest part about the obsession with Bush that folks like Robert have is that they must feel so powerless when the rest of the coutry counts off as NOT being in agreement with their insanity.

Get used to it Robert.
Defense Guy | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 2:47 pm | #

Odd, I thought the claim about Atta was that he met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague, something the Czechs still maintain it happened.

Robert wouldn't be... exagerrating things in his hyperventilating efforts to push his claims, right?
Patrick Chester | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 3:03 pm | #

Patrick - You are correct. As Stephen Hayes has reported,

"No fewer than five high-ranking Czech officials have publicly confirmed that Mohammed Atta, the lead September 11 hijacker, met with Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim al-Ani, an Iraqi intelligence officer working at the Iraqi embassy, in Prague five months before the hijacking. Media leaks here and in the Czech Republic have called into question whether Atta was in Prague on the key dates--between April 4 and April 11, 2001. And several high-ranking administration officials are "agnostic" as to whether the meeting took place. Still, the public position of the Czech government to this day is that it did."

The reason our intelligence services never publicly made the Atta/Saddam connection is because they could not independently corroborate the Prague meetings in April 2001. Neither could they disprove them. Considering that the nineteen hijackers had 63 separate ID's (and those are just the ones they knew about), it doesn't take much imagination to think Atta flew from the U.S. to Czechoslovakia under an unknown alias.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Co...3jgqyi.asp? pg=2
GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 4:08 pm | #

Lies? Hardly.

Bush thinking Harriet would be the best SCOTUS judge isn't the same thing as him lying.

Ditto with him accepting the CIA pre-war intel on WMDs... being wrong (along with the rest of the world) isn't the same thing as lying. I thought liberals were smart enough to see the distinction. Obviously not.

"We've discovered two illegal mobile weapons labs. 5/31/03 (actually, they were trailers, and at the time, inspecters had already visited them and confirmed they were not weapons labs)." NO, THEY DIDN'T CONFIRM THIS, THEY OPINED THIS. Both trailers had been bleached clear/stripped of contents. No conclusive proof either way.

"Saddam attempted to purchase uranium in Africa. (CIA warned before state of the union; Bush evades responsibiilty by saying Hadley never warned him; so either Bush is too stupid to vet his own speeches, he's negligent when making the biggest speech of the year, or he lied. Take your pick)."

NO, Bush said "British intelligence believes...." and they DID, AND DO, so that's not a lie either.

"Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order."

The question was about DOMESTIC TO DOMESTIC WIRETAPS, NOT THE NSA LISTENING TO PAKISTANI COMMUNICATIONS OR AL QAEDA CALLS FROM QATAR TO BROOKLYN... Liberals cut and paste quotes out of context all the time.
John | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 4:25 pm | #

>>...no, Navy flying ain't grunt work--it takes brains (along with an ungodly amount of courage to do those night carrier landings in wind and rain).>>

I think he has that same sense of superiority. Brains are good, but do they get the ditch dug? I'm just saying that from 20,000(or whatever) feet up, life has a different perspective. Not better, not worse, just different. It seems to me that he still has that different perspective.
suek | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 5:03 pm | #

Robert = fud = stupid lefty troll.
Garry K | Email | Homepage | 09.21.06 - 11:09 pm | #