Dr. Sanity,
As a bystander to this discussion, two quotes come to mind.
"Just like a wop to bring a knife to a gunfight." -Sean Connery in "The Untouchables"
Not that your detractors will understand these quotes but this is what you brought to the fight:
"But being as this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?"-Clint Eastwood in "Dirty Harry".
The punks were unlucky today 
Although they are glad not to live in the West, too many are living here.
I'm not much of a church-goer, yet but after being exposed to Allah's power I understand now why Jesus was the first champion of female rights.
After reading the last email I have a strong desire now to seek out God's words of love and compassion.
An unwelcome thought came to mind . . . atheist that I am, I adore Papa Ratzi -- the Pope who loves cats and Mozart -- and am putting great faith in his quest to reconnect Dhimmitizing Old Europe to its Judeo Christian roots . . . But your words about the Arab cultures:
" . . . a mass pathology such as this occurs in a culture which demonizes the female and her sexuality -- and puts her out of mind and sight -- is only to be expected" . . .
. . . called to mind the sodomizing recent history of the Catholic Church. A connection, perhaps?
Do any other species hate and fear the females as much as our own? Is it the eternal curse of this thinking reed?
Add to your penetrating analysis of the Muslim mind the fact that to Muslim males the only thing worse than making a mistake is admitting you made a mistake and voilá, you have a religion/culture/society incapable of changing and correcting itself. This is why Islam is as it is today and will never change and will never live in harmony with the rest of the world. We must not falter in opposing this vile system of thought where ever it is found. We must not welcome it into our midst. When one compromises with this type of evil one can only reap evil.
We must follow the lead of Thomas Jefferson who said:
"I have sworn upon the alter of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
Such a reassuring thought for those insecured souls that they eliminated half of the population for competition. Now if only they can ensure the 1% moolsem minority as our overlord(s). Oh, wait, never mind....
What I don't get is the "progressives'" mindset. They progressed so much that they have moved backwards?
"We Muslims believe in something called "civility" and giving respect to a person even though he/she may not be deserving of it."
Clearly, you have a different definition of the word 'civility' than we do.
In the civilized world, calls to SLAUGHTER THE JEWS! or SLAUGHTER THE CRUSADERS! is not considered civilized.
In the civilized world, violence or threats of violence are for even the most minor of offenses is not considered civilized behavior.
In the civilized world, ignoring/endorsing/apologizing for bestial behavior, as in Sudan, Mauritania, Algeria (where children were raped, murdered and dismembered as matter of 'religious policy', Indonesia, East Timor, the Philippines and a host of other places is not considered civilized behavior.
Calls on Saudi TV for Palestinian Muslims to rape and enslave Jewish women and children is not considered civilized behavior.
Shall I go on or do you get the point yet?
Here is something for you to consider: maybe the ummah is in such dire straights because Allah is upset at the beast like behavior of so many Muslims. Maybe Allah is trying to tell the ummah that as long as they support the animal-like regimes and leaders that abuse them, continued punishment will be the order of the day.
If you are really a believer (which I doubt) you would think a thousand years of living in history's toilet would have taught you that just maybe, you ought to do things a bit differently.
If you are really a believer (which I doubt) you would think after a thousand years, religious leaders that support and convey the message of some of the most evil and dysfunctional leaders in the history of mankind, would be rejected in favor of religious leaders who really cared about God's creations enough to love and honor them.
Do not talk about the 'great' Arab past. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Right now, the ummah is the best example of why Darwin is so credible. The civilized world is moving on and the ummah cannot seems to adapt.
sigmund said: Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Yes, but a broken clock is in THIS universe and bound by its laws. The Islamics live in an alternate universe who's law is unlimited whim of others. They therefore cannot be right even once. Their reality is the consciousness of others who's reality is the consciousness of still others in an endless circle unconnected to anything but delusion, fantasy, and whim. As a consequence, the only reality they will submit to is death.
Always right...I think the "progressives" were caught off guard. Their desire to destroy judeo-christian ethics in the West and simultaneously praise the ways of primitive peoples has come back to bite them in the ass.
Moral relativism and multiculturalism has left them with no defense against jihadist or even common criminals in their own midst.
Instead of admitting their fatal error, we get to watch them further assault logic and reason in an attempt to cover it all up.
Its no coincidence that Al Gore felt compelled to offer a pre-emptive defense of his own behavior with his latest book. You want to know what a modern liberal is up to, just look at what they most strongly accuse others of doing.
Considering what the putative reward for "martyrdom" is, I say, yes, Muslims are rather more obsessed with sex than Westerners are--not to mention that they link it more readily with death.
Liberals are so open-minded their brains fell out long ago and with it the ability to discern evil in their midst.
This e-mailer really shoots himself in the …’foot’ with his hilarious reasoning:“I am blessed to have a well endowed penis - a point to which my wife [who knows “saying he has small penis…is very hurtful for a man to hear”, who gives “respect to a person even though he…may not be deserving of it “, who “also believe(s) in obedience" and that a woman should always speak to a man only kind and sweet words”, and who” is aware of her limitations”]…” could back me up in.”
Most entertaining read I've had in awhile... much thanks!!!
I don't know whether to laugh or feel pity.
I think I'll laugh first, pity later.
One thing I haven't seen commented on is the fact that the muslim male is _never_ at fault. Instead of being responsible for his own behavior, "it's _her_ fault. _SHE_ made me do it." It's not his responsibility to regulate his behavior, it's _her_ responsibility to "disappear" so that those thoughts don't enter his mind. In fact, as a result, I wonder if any muslim is ever responsible for _anything_ he does.
DECONSTRUCTION AREA - TINFOIL HAT MANDATORY
1a) - "Females in the west makes all kinds of hypocrisies, such as that men can't hit women but women can hit men." -- Muckmudd the wise
But we Muslins no beast, for hour koraN teaches trooths, and from it we learns how backasswards the west. We have no such foolees, but executes truths (and other crime) by men hittings of woman but womans can not hit mans. (akkah, spit., be praised)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world...ast/
3631743.stm
1b) - You westerns have such evil ideas about sex, 4 shame. If you were Muslin you would no that akkah watches you at all times, and you would never dare do what displeased it.
http://www.sandmonkey.org/2006/1...sment-incident/
2) - The defects of hommosexal men is full of the west! akkah cries when he sees it.
http://www.answers.com/topic/ped...he-muslim-
world
(unless done as koran instruct)
4) - You ignoratt becuz you not have imam to ask how to behive
http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/vie...view.php?
q=5482
Beauty of Islams sooo klear. Why not see it? (try now free special offer. If not satisfied after one month, tough $#@&!!!)
Now, what's the logic with this guy's penis size fixation and "my wife can back me up"? I assume the marriage was arranged, she of course was a virgin that never saw a grown man nekked before, probably had a dowry of some kind from her own family, might risk stoning to death if she complains about being unsatisfied in the sack; she would say anything Mohammed told her to say!
I would point out that "Eve tempted Adom" would be the result of mysogyny, rather than the cause.
...
Unless, of course, you take the whole of the old testament litterally, and also believe that a woman must sacrifice two birds every month to be forgiven for the sin of her unclean period.
I thank God that moron doesn't live in the west too, I'm just sorry he lives on the planet earth where billions of others must put up with his nonsense. But then he proved your point quite nicely.
As a no-apologies-offered Christian, I consider Islam to be a mockery of Judaism and Christianity, unworthy of being associated with these two great faiths, or the God they worship.
So different from my PDoc and CDoc's mine defend Islam and state that Christianity and Islam is the same!
The Qoran and the Bible are the same there fore it is wrong to hate Islam and to distrust Moslems.
what makes you different?
RESPONSIBLES OF MUSLINS - ( AL-TAKFIR WA AL-HIJRA )
suek ask what are responsibles of muslins?
I show you!
"Jihad in the Qur'an and Sunnah
By SHEIKH ABDULLAH BIN MUHAMMAD BIN HUMAID
Published by:
Maktaba Dar-us-Salam
Publishers and Distributors
P.0. Box 21441, Riyadh 11475
Tel.4033962-Fax:4021659
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Publisher's Note
. . . .
But, ..., there is one deed which is very great in comparison to all the acts of worship and all the good deeds-and that is Jihad !
. . . .
Abdul Malik Mujahid
General Manager
JIHAD IN THE QUR'AN AND SUNNA
Praise be to Allah swt Who has ordained Al-Jihad (the holy fighting in Allah's Cause):
1. With the heart (intentions or feelings),
2. With the hand (weapons, etc.),
3. With the tongue (speeches, etc., in the Cause of Allah)
. . . .
. . . you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam . . .
. . . .
Allah (swt) made "the fighting' (Jihad) obligatory for the Muslims
. . . .
And He (Allah) said:
Jihad (holy fighting in Allah's Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims). . .
. . . .
Verses of the Qur'an and the Sunna ...have exhorted greatly for Jihad ... (the holy fighting in Allah's Cause) ... Mudahidin are Allah's troops. Allah (swt) will establish His religion (Islam), with them (Mujahidin) .... who fight against the enemies of Allah in order that ... Allah (swt) and His religion Islam) should be superior
...
All the Muslim religious scholars unanimously agree that Jihad is superior to Hajj and 'Umra ... and he He (pbuh) has put Jihad at the top in Islam ... and threatened (all) those who remain behind from Jihad ... with horrible punishment.
...
you will not find any organization past or present, religious or non-religious as regards (Jihad and military) (ordering) the whole nation to march forth and mobilize all of them. into active military service as a single row for Jihad in Allah's Cause so as to make superior the Word of Allah ... as you will find in the Islamic Religion and its teachings.
...
"
after the cia and mosssad destroy towers we must remove those beauty words off internet so kafirs not suspect their doom.
So do not belief in "Jihad is 'inner struggle' which that just taqiyya for fool kafirs hahahahahaha
DOES YOUR WOMeN NOT OBEY YOU?
Islam to rescue you
http://
www.thereligionofpeace.co...ortLeash_sm.jpg
Fear for life, beating, starvation, public humiliation are tools to crush rebellioness.
Your suggestion that improvements in the attitudes toward women in Muslim societies would make such societies more peaceable actually has strong historical support.
In the 14th century in western Europe, the movement called "courtly love" arose. While we usually think of courtly love as embodied in the poetry of the period written in the emerging national languages (as opposed to Latin) of French, English, Italian, etc., it was a social movement that had a very strong impact on human relations, not only between members of the upper class courts (kings and queens, knights and ladies), but on the societies of western Europe as a whole.
The movement encouraged men to value women as more than possessions or war booty, to respect women for both beauty and intelligence, and to value courteous behavior in themselves.
In short, the courtly love movement civilized men in European society. A man could be gentle and kind and still be respected as a man. Over the centuries, kindness, deference towards women (the men I know still open doors for pregnant women), and other similar behaviors became virtues for men, in addition to the usual manly virtues of courage, strength, etc.
So your recommendations for changes in behavior in the Muslim world are not off the wall, nor are they merely the result of modern thinking in psychiatry or psychology. The changes in behavior you propose have worked in the past for hundreds of millions of people and they would undoubtedly work in the Muslim world, if anyone were to try them.
http://www.islamworld.net/jihad.html
Well Doc, lifting this veil has a large number of cockroaches dashing for cover. Sticking to what you know is the only successful way to properly stick it to foes.
My wife, also a doc, comforts me endlessly with the phrase: "That's the biggest one I ever saw!"
Brilliant post. I think the underlying insecurity and weakness of the men is also reflected in the portrayal of Allah as primarily wrathful/vengeful. While Christ by clear contrast demonstrates His deep personal intrinsic strength through Divine Acts of Mercy and humility (like washing the feet of His Apostles ).
Another point: Islam encourages forced conversions, which implies a weakness of Allah. Compare that to Christinaity which respects free will, the idependence of the state, etc.
Freedom is prized in Christianity because Christ wants our love, which must be freely offered to be real. He doess not merely want our obediance - He could have that with a wave of His hand. Christ is not threatened by our freedom but "Allah" appears to be.
GB beat me to the punch. One of the great ironies of misogamist Islam is the promise of 72 virgins waiting in Paradise. A man who can't handle seeing a woman's ankle in this life is promised dominion over a magnificently staffed whorehouse in the next. And all he has to do is "martyr" himself (i.e., die during the commission of mass murder in the name of Allah).
It's a real shame there aren't any Moslems out there willing to put up a fight right on this here fine comments thread.
Anybody willing to go fetch some? Alright, just kidding ..careful what we wish for.
This sentance is my response to your ignorant Muslim bashing; this dependent clause communicates that there are misogynists of all religions but it was Islamic feminism which is the earliest and successful feminist movement in a major religion.
Let's have a nice round of applause for the clown in the back row.
". . . it was Islamic feminism which is the earliest and successful feminist movement in a major religion." -- goly g50
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Whew! tell me another one.
Say, have you ever thought of auditioning for "last comic standing?" You're a riot!
Oh, wait.. You were SERIOUS?!!??
So, if they were so "advanced" in the past, why are they so perverse now, hmmmm?
http://www.cartoonstock.com/news...res/
knin82l.jpg
When Muslims make these outrageous claims, it is because the ideal has more reality to them than the actual. The Quran says that women have some equality, therefore it is true. The facts on the ground mean nothing.
The mark of a way of life is not in promising what it will accomplish if it is performed perfectly, but in what it accomplishes if performed imperfectly. For example, communists claim it will all go well if we could just practice true communism; in contrast, the free market provides benefits even when applied imperfectly. It is much the same with the claims of Islam: it will all be well if we could but obey it perfectly; the other Abrahamic faiths, Christianity and Judaism, have provided benefit even when applied imperfectly.
See also: Western versus Eastern medicine; scientific method; democratic government.
AND AF CALLS ME "LINKMASTER"
Get a load of THIS guy
http://truehardfacts.blogspot.co...-
muslim_29.html
I'm green with envy!
WE GOT THE S.O.B.
The guy responsible for attacking and killing American soldiers on Jan 20th.
"U.S. forces on a raid in northern Baghdad killed a Shiite militant believed to have masterminded a brazen January attack in Karbala that led to the capture and killing of four U.S. soldiers, the military said Sunday."
http://www.townhall.com/News/New...ec-
e4b73ca28b94
"That is because females are disgusting creatures..."
Gay or Islamic? You decide.
By the way, I got a good laugh out of ytba's "muckmudd" comments.
"But we Muslins no beast, for hour koraN teaches trooths, and from it we learns how backasswards the west. We have no such foolees, but executes truths (and other crime) by men hittings of woman but womans can not hit mans. (akkah, spit., be praised)"
LOL!! Love it.
Er, Gloria, the only thing the courtly love "movement" (eh?, "movment") was about was a group of Pecksniffs getting women to open their legs with a rose rather than a sword: sheesh.
My two pence:
Mohammed was a murderer, rapist, thief, child molester, pedophile: period.
Any questions?
"By the way, I got a good laugh out of ytba's "muckmudd" comments.
Does that mean ytba was also American Muslim? I may have missed the day this was revealed if it ever was...
Yes, I still come to the site almost every day, just don't post since the Doc seems to have an amazing group of posters who say what comes to my mind before I get to post it!
That said, revealing the Muslim insecurity about women and their sexuality may do more harm to that culture than any bomb will...keep hammering them Doc, they are obviously listening/reading.
Er, Gloria, the only thing the courtly love "movement" (eh?, "movment") was about was a group of Pecksniffs getting women to open their legs with a rose rather than a sword: sheesh.
As a woman: this is a bad thing HOW? I'd much rather be charmed than be raped.
I love the part about the "banal garage"! That must be where I work on all my old cars...
heh heh
No sharia, no burqua, no honor killings, not now, not ever, never.
xman, I was assuming that ytba was muckmudd character showing absurdity by being absurd. I may be wrong but I've been reading the comments section long enough to understand the different sytles and templates of the regulars. A lot of times I know who the (regular) penner is before I get to the name. So, that's why I assume - and am 90% certain it's our ol' buddy, ytba.
However, no way on Gods green acres is ytba American Muslim. Count on that.
Have a good one.
As reasoned and comprehensive as your post is, it's the replies from those muslims that say most about them.
Misogynist degenerates, one and all.
So you have produced yet another Islamophobic screed that fairly drips fear and hate. You have become quite deranged by your fear of Islam. Perhaps you have good reason for your fear. Look about you. Do you not observe that your degenerate, perverted, and decaying society has reduced your men to mincing "metrosexuals"? How do you suppose your feminized men will fare against the soldiers of Allah (swt)?
Time grows very short indeed. Embrace Islam now and live in peace in submission to the will of Almighty Allah (swt).
Your grandchildren will be Muslim.
Allahu akbar!
"How do you suppose your feminized men will fare against the soldiers of Allah (swt)?"
Quite well ... we'll cut the dicks off the ragtag band of allah and shove them in their mouths before we kill them.
"Quite well ... we'll cut the dicks off the ragtag band of allah and shove them in their mouths before we kill them."
Don't forget to dip the bullets in pig's blood and then smear lard on the corpses, maybe a little bacon in their mouth for the long trip to hell.
AM i feel ya pain. What it must be like to defend your culture on a computer that said culture cant even fathom how to make. Maybe you could look into itty bitty persian rugs as mouse pads to get your sides foot in the door.
I hate to spoil everybody't fun, but "American Muslim" is pulling your leg. I've seen him on other blogs doing the same thing.
He does it quite well, though.
Tom youre saying he has a history of doing the exact same bizzare behavior over and over? Hell hes the real deal then.
Quite well ... we'll cut the dicks off the ragtag band of allah and shove them in their mouths before we kill them.
darwin
Lol...If we had a General that could stand up at a news conference and spit that out (no pun intended) and mean it, We would have $1.22 a gallon gas and Bin Laden would be rotting away in a Turkish prison.
ytba should like this, among others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X...h?
v=XIbhMmC9jxU
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Islam is finished and they either know it or sense it, hence the violence. Islam was started with violence and will end with violence. Islamic countries are backwards, only their rich oil deposits are saving them. Oh sure, they will pull-off some sort of massive WMD attack in the sleeping west, but then their end will be nigh. For me, there is absolutely no doubt this will happen.
If I ever had a comment from someone about the possible size of my penis then I'd just laugh it off because 1: they'd never actually seen it, and 2: my sense of self-respect is tied up with things far more important than how long my dangly bits happens to be.
I think you hit a raw nerve Pat, keep up the good work!
While the first is being flogged for poor jihadery, and perhaps mincing with metrosexuals, I shall continue in his place.
Your women shall be Muslim servants and their children shall be Muslims. Their childrens children may be infidels, but their childrens childrens children shall be Muslims again.
Mohammed was a murderer, rapist, thief, child molester, pedophile: period.
Uh, I believe you left out "schizophrenic," but otherwise I'm with you.
Ohh... all those chirrens. My goodness.
Are there My Little Ponies for Muslim chirrens or are they My Little Camel?
Excellent dissection and dissertation, Dr!
Having gone through YEARS of designing a hospital, with armed-guard stations between ALL MEN and ANY WOMEN/CHILDREN INPATIENTS, I certainly concur your gist AND your asserted specifics!
Muslims are SERIOUSLY sexually maladjusted today!
And for the record, May 22, 1844 marks the day when the One, like unto the Son of Man, CAME to humankind, and into a Muslim social matrix at that (Tabriz, Iran).
He raised the call to purity, EQUALITY of MEN & WOMEN, universal education and warned of the very imminent Coming of the Lord of Hosts, Baha'u'llah.
Baha'u'llah, the Glory of God, developed this theme over His 40 year ministry (1853-92); asserting that God has created TWO wings of humankind, male AND female, and that humanity will fly WHEN BOTH are spiritually educated, their many shared and unique abilities drawn out and put to the service of humankind!
/in a way, Americans dealt with this (male-supremacy/female-enslavement) problem in the American Civil War, when the War GENERATED widespread awareness that what enslaves the slave, enslaves the master just as surely!
So you think you're funny or even entertaining to read? you think by writing about me you can attack Islam. Your logic is messed up, if I want to be a misogynist which I am not, you just assume that. nevertheless I have every right to be one its a free world. Anyway if I want to act a fool, that I as a person am a fool, you can't blame Islam for that. You use manipulation and appeals to emotions to win arguments. There is no logical argument to your posts.
You use psychology to fool your readers. I'm not going to make fun of your readers, in my eyes they are just lost souls, suspended between heaven and hell. Don't deserve to go to heaven and don't deserve be in hell either. What I am going to do is inform them of your little tricks.
If I say drinking beer makes me happy and I associate positive emotions with is and I tell you, you should also by this beer becouse it will make you feel like me i.e happy. This is an appeal to emotion. You only talk about the positive aspects of a product and not the negative aspects such as the detrimental health it is going to have on my health. You slightly twist this and use it to attack Islam. You associate negativity with Islam and claim negativity is a by product of Islam. You use violent images, such as planes going into the twin-towers and claim this is a result of Islam, or you will show oppress women and claim this is becouse of Islam. There is no logic behind any of your arguments, they are based on a logical fallacy. The conclusion of your arguments don't follow from the premises of your arguments.
Just to show the absurdity of your reasoning (or should I say lack of) we will agree for the sake of argument, that Islam is bad. Now let me ask you a question how come there is domestic abuse in the united states? why do some men beat on women or do terrorism?
See your argument doesn't add up, you don't need to follow Islam to do any of these morally objectionable things. These are human actions, and have nothing to do with religion. Anyone can use a pretext to commit crimes.
I am only 19 years old and I can see right though what you're trying to do I just hope your readers also see this.
P,S if you still don't agree with me, I challenge you to a debate on the subject of Islam.
Oh and it was not an anonymous emailer, it was me I was the one emailing you all the time.
Regards,
Sona
http://sonasblog.blogspot.com/
Just for the record, English is not my first language I speak Indo-Aryan languages. So my English maybe not as good as yours, and will likely to contain grammatical errors.
Regards,
Sona
"you think by writing about me you can attack Islam"
No, any attack on you is the direct result of your own limited capacity to think rationally or critically.
Islam cannot be attacked because Islam, like every other religion, is a reflection of it's adherents. What Islam is or has become is reflected back by the behavior of those who claim that faith as their own.
That there is domestic abuse in the US and western world is not the issue. Human nature has a dark side. What is relevant is that in the western world, domestic abuse is recognized as dark and evil. In the what is a reflection of the Islamic world today, domestic abuse is considered acceptable.
In fact, there is much in your part pf the world that is considered evil by the west.
The practice of tribal 'justice' that include gang rapes, for example. The acid attacks, honor killings and beating of women that is commonplace are all examples of practices that are not only tolerated, but accepted. The proof is in the pudding- there are few, if any prosecutions of men who behave in that way. There have to be laws passed to outlaw such behavior. No one in a civilized society makes the mistake of believing throwing acid in the face of woman is acceptable, and needs a law to tell him just that.
Only in your part of the world, do people go to religious sabbath services and leave in a frenzy, ready and willing to kill. Churches are shot up with worshipers inside and attacks on non Muslims are everyday occurrences.
Do not mistake this exchange as an attack on Islam. In the west, no one cares about what you believe and how you worship. We are not discussing theology here and thus, we are not discussing Islam as a religion. What we are talking about is behavior of those calling themselves Muslims- and that speaks for itself.
Clean your own house before lecturing the western democracies and free nations. You are in no position to talk down to anyone- and you are certainly in no position to lecture a psychiatrist on what is and isn't healthy human behavior.
The proof is in the pudding. It wasn't colonialism that kept you down. The spectacular failures of Islamic societies are all home grown, nurtured by some of the most dysfunctional cultures in the history of mankind.
Clean up the vile bigotry, hate and racism in your own back yard.
Your culture and society are broken- they are not equal to our own, any more than a culture of cannibals in the jungle is equal to a society with modern hospitals and medicine.
Successful and civilized cultures, religions and societies are measured by what they build and contribute and not by what what they destroy.
Successful and civilized cultures, religions and societies are measured by how willing they are to adapt and participate into the world in which they live. Their governments reflect that.
Successful and civilized cultures, religions and societies are measured by how well they take responsibility for their own actions and they always endeavor to do better.
The Islamic world, with all it's flaws and failures, does not want to play the comparison game with western democracies, with of it's flaws and failures.
Sona, when I was 19 I questioned all my parent's beliefs, and 33 years later kept what worked, and rejected what didn't in the modern world. Give it a try!
Hey doc! It's worse than you think.
I hereby nominate this for Insanity of the Year.
Sona,
Go back to Dr. Sanity's main page (Home) and click on "Shame, the Arab Psyche & Islam" in the left bar. While you're Persian, I assume, the culture of the Quran is Arabic. See if you find yourself there.
I once asked a psychologist friend about "shame cultures", his only comment was "extremely toxic".
Also, in a free society, criticism and ridicule of opinions are part of free speech. You must get used to it.
"Your logic is messed up, if I want to be a misogynist which I am not, you just assume that" -- sona
You are missing the point, and at the same time reinforcing/proving the Dr.'s.
1) The point is that even though INDIVIDUAL Muslims may not be screwed up, MUSLIM SOCIETY AS A WHOLE is. If it weren't, those kinds of anti-social behavior wouldn't be permitted, let alone approved of. If you want to prove to us that is not true, show us two things: (a) how does Islam forbid that behavior AND what are it's punishments, and (b) where IN PRACTICE those punishments are delivered.
2) You prove the Doc's point by being so defensive.. Instead of sharing her indignation at "the minority" of your adherents who are some of the most vile and despicable people on the planet, you DENY that they even exist and in doing so defend them. That clearly shows you are blind to the problem, and as such are a part of it.
Instead of rebutting the Doc's assertios, you show us how true they are.
Thanks.
"Clean up the vile bigotry, hate and racism in your own back yard." -- sona
Unlike you, we realize that bigotry and hate and racism unfortunately still exist in the world. We have reduced our tremendously, and continue to work on the problem. You deny yours, and it remains as "vile" as ever. And it doesn't help that your religion dehumanizes others by calling them "pigs" and "monkeys," or by demanding you fight us and destroy us because we are "inferior."
And don't telll me that you personally don't believe what your Imams spew daily in their mosques. It doesn't matter what your think. If that's what your religion teaches, than your personal opinion is immaterial.
Now, go to work on your corner of the world, and get it cleaned up. Then you can criticize what others are doing. And yes, we CAN criticize you, because as I said above, we (unlike you) ARE working on the problem, and (again, unlike you) are succeeding.
"Does that mean ytba was also American Muslim?" -- xman
No. He, unfortuantely, is probably the real deal. (or at least as real as it gets, in Islam)
I'm also not "American Muslin" who did a great job of mocking that idiot.
BUSTED
Thanks for noticing, Ryan.
"I hate to spoil everybody't fun, but "American Muslim" is pulling your leg. I've seen him on other blogs doing the same thing." -- Tom
Seen him before? How can you tell? They all write like that.
Of course, now that you mention it, they usually are more incoherent.
Interresting observation.
Machine
re: General Patton
LOL
thanks
P.S.
I AM ALSO NOT "SANA"
No "foolies"
oops, dat b "sona"
sorries
ytba, non-sona, non-sana
hey, wait a minute . . .!
Sona,
Until the Moslem world stops letting itself be influenced by so many psychopaths who successfully con their inferiors that they are on a “mission from Allah”, then that religion (as a whole) will continue to be ridiculed and despised.
Do other cultures also suffer from similar dysfunctions? Sadly they all do. It’s inherent in all social societies, which couldn’t exist without the “social emotions” of the masses and the resulting cultural tribalism.
But those cultures where successful democratic systems are in place will suffer the utterly selfish and dangerous psychopathic fool much less.
Study psychopathy.
Jack Ryan
Sorry, Jack, it was supposed to be, "J Ryan," not just "Ryan"
Oh, and about that stuff on Jihad, which was written by SHEIKH ABDULLAH BIN MUHAMMAD BIN HUMAID who is an "ex-Chief Justice of Saudi Arabia." That means Islamofascism is mainstream, or at lest that's what most of the Imams seem to want!
Given that, I suppose it is a credit to a great many Muslims that they don't jump up and follow those crazies.
"normal sane 19 year old Muslim boy" at least agrees that there was euthanasia in concentration camps. Sanity is making some headway.
Geez Doc, tell me how you _really_ feel...
After reading your article, it reminded me of Ralph Peter's "Seven signs of Non-Competetive States:
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usa...ring/
peters.htm
Almost ten years old and still spot on.
Dr.Santy keep on exposing the islamofascists' pathological derangements as mainifested by its sanctioning of misogyny, proclivities to muderous etnocentricism, and cult-like sanctioned crimes of violence that offers them a fast track guaranteed passage to their perverted vision
of a heavenly paradise.
The screams of protest elicited from the apostles of islamic mayhem and murder are proof positive that you are nailing them correctly.
Muslim men are full of shiite.
Hey, American Muslim - Islam sucks!
Learn something about real religion, instead of wanting to destroy everyone who disagrees with you. You might even be happier and healthier.
The screams of protest elicited from the apostles of islamic mayhem and murder are proof positive that you are nailing them correctly. - wanderer.
I like the way you worded that. A lot.
ytba,
No worries sir, Ryan is what I am affectionatly known as to my closest mates.
snoring citizen,
I always enjoy your comments.
Hehehe. Always quick and direct. Funny too.
Islam does not stand a chance at it's going rate. It is doomed to failure once again.
But how many lives later? How many warped and manipulted brains later? How many dead is it going to take this time?
Let's ask Jefferson, or Lincoln, or, say, Patton. All anyone needs to do to find the answers (I was going to say, get a library card..) is to take a good hard look at history.
Machine has some beautiful quotes relating to the answers by some of American history's greatest leaders.
Of course, this was all before our time. Each era has it's own specifics to the general to be addressed in it's respective speck of time.
Here we are gathered around the Doctors fire gathering and sharing. It is here that I see that ray of hope.
This is an absolutely superb post. It articulates something I have long understood and that might be useful in changing a vast societal dynamic in the Muslim world.
Perhaps the best part of the post I've seen, for sheer irony, was the 'I am a "normal sane 19 year old Muslim boy"' who ended his post with "Women have only half the intellect of men."
Mwah-haw-haw-haw-haw (*snort*) haha!
Sorry. (Wipes away a tear of laughter.) It's just that, assuming 'normal' intelligence to be around one hundred on the ol' Intelligence Quotient tests, and assuming that standard deviation for the American population is around 15, and further assuming that readers of political blogs are generally from the right-of-center on the bell curve rather than from the left side, and assuming that psychologists of whatever ilk went to college, giving them an IQ of 115 plus . . .
Then one can conclude that most of the women on this site are, like the men on this site, just slightly more intelligent than normal. And as one who for whatever reason tests as rather more than one standard deviation from the norm, I could not help but find it funny that the end of the logical argument the e-mailer used was "women have only half the intellect of men."
I think I'm going to wander off and memorize some more Sindarin now, since I've just finished re-reading Kipling's stuff . . .
Hi, guys. I have been reading the comments you've made and talking some things on board. Life is about learning and improving. I respect everyones opinion no matter how stupid it may sound to me. I want to address some issues here. I do apolagize I cannot answer each persons post individually. It would be too time consuming for me.
Firstly, I want to address an issue some of you guys are missing here. You need to understand every society has different ethical and moral values. In your society it maybe morally, ok for a woman to be walking down the street semi-clad bouncing her tits. In our society this is morally unacceptable. In the USA it maybe fine to be homosexual in our society this is morally and ethically unacceptable.
All I am trying to say here is, if I was living in the west (which I am not) I would be on your side. You have views which I find extreme.
Someone said I must be a Persian. Well I come from the Cheema tribe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheema) so I am a descendant of Indo-Scythian tribes.
Regards,
Sona.
Ever heard the one about how ‘bouncing tits’ caused the monk to kick out a stained glass window?
Maybe that’s al-Zawahiri’s problem.
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usa...ring/ peters.htm
Almost ten years old and still spot on.
Wow, the Islamic societies are 7 for 7 on the factors that make them finger-and-thumb-in-the-shape-of-an-L-on-the-
forehead Losers. And it's amazing how so many fall for the fallacy of composition, the belief that what's true for the part is true for the whole, or that what's true for the whole overall is true for the individual part. One can find bad examples in American society just like one can find black grains of sand on white-sand beaches (hat tip: ejectejecteject.com) if one looks hard enough, but don't forget the overall picture. And similarly you can find well-behaved followers of Islam, just like you could find light grains of sand on black-sand beaches if you search hard enough. But again, don't forget the larger, overall picture.
"You need to understand every society has different ethical and moral values."
Yes, we believe that beating, attacking and killing women is always wrong.
I guess we are just stupid kaffirs.
www.jihadwatch.com
That last comment in your post was some of the worst trolling ever! I thought I had it bad with Ron Paul supporters and tax protest freaks. Nothing's more jaw droppingly vile and stupid as Mr. Small penis' analysis of male/female relations.
You know what fuck you assholes. I enjoy eating American popcorn and watching the news seeing American troops getting an ass kicking in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hey, Sona, don't leave mad; Islam is the religion of peace!
Tom TB, you think you can tell me what to do? am not a woman.
No, Sona, you are not that smart.
IMHO, you write the best "...banal garage..." on this here intarweb thingy, for a girl.
[Aw heck, I can't post my fav avatar here.]
ROFLMAO!
Hmmm. Sona tries the multi-culti live-and-let-live routine, recieves a rebuttal in the form of underlining the treatment of women, and instead of addressing it, blathers about popcorn and the american asses getting kicked in Iraq and Afghanistan.
And the point is re-re-re-emphasized.
Sona is definitely gay.
"Sona is definitely gay."
What’s this then?
Listen, am not here to play games with you retards. I challenge her to a open-debate. Am not going to piss around and refute a load of prattle she posts.
If she wants a one on one debate we can do that.
Sona, perhaps you should consider snorting Hydrogen cyanide instead of Crack and or other brain altering substances;
It is one thing to think the way you do, but it is another to put on display in a public forum such pathological trends, and remain proud of it?
Please consider.
Hi, just letting you know I don't have a wife I was testing your intellect it was a joke.
Bye.
Dr. S.;
Great column, and here's another interesting angle on the issue:
Economics has spoken. The best return on aid and investment dollars in an underdeveloped country comes from educating girls and financing women in their local enterprises and initiatives.
Not coincidentally, there is a tight association between status and rights equality for women and creativity and wealth of a nation. Misogynistic societies are economically suicidal.
"Honor killings of women are all too common in Arab culture,"
without going into the grammatical errors here, this asshole dislodges his whole argument (and questionable doctorate) with the generalization of arab culture. oh, and the angle of taking pot shots at another culture's mothers? dont you know yo mama jokes are the lowest common denominator of argument? and this guy wants to act like hes an anthropologist? not to be curt -but fuck off asshole if someone seems this guy in the street, kick him in the balls for humanity.
It truly saddens me to think that any human being could think as this anonymous emailer does. Personally, I am not the religious type. I do believe people have the freedom to choose to believe in whatever they wish. However, why would anyone want to worship any "God" that would condone such behavior.
Truly stuck in the dark ages.
fuck u dr sanity
Personally I think we should just let all the religious zealots alone and let them nuke each other.
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