I'm afraid of anyone who seeks to kill me unless it is totally beyond their capability. Since when is self-preservation a phobia?
Shoprat | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 10:43 am | #

Primitive religions don't just condone blood sacrifice, they require it. Therefore, we should not be surprised that, in the words of Samuel Huntington, "Islam's borders are bloody." Like the Aztec, they require blood in order for their culture to "function." Their bloodlust is not an effect, it is a cause.
Gagdad Bob | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:03 am | #

Where is the healthy part of youthful rebellion in the Muslim world like we saw here in the 1960's? Is there no young brain desiring to "find oneself"? No one to say to their fellows regarding the Mullahs, "don't trust anyone over thirty"?
Tom TB | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:34 am | #

Some comments:

Islamophobic-phobia: I like that term for the appeasers of Islamofascism.

The Hebreophobia of Islam is just one facet of its racist-at-heart nature. Now that is a truly irrational and inexplicable syndrome - except, of course, if the explanation is pure, unadulterated hatred that followers of Islam are inculcated with since birth.

Finally, what is being called "Islamophobia" is in reality "Islamo-revulsion."
Commenter | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 11:42 am | #

Again, great post!

Have a great day! I'll be back!
Donald Douglas | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:11 pm | #

Got in this discussion with my husband this morning: Given the demographics of the typical Islamist terrorists, if this were 100 years ago or so, and these guys were Western, they'd be Anarchists or Communists.

All are, or were, bored little Steppenwolfs who never felt they quite fit in modern middle-class society. Having been coddled by that same middle-class society, and been praised by their teachers for their minds, they come to the inevitable conclusion that nothing can possibly be wrong with them. What is wrong must be a soulless modern middle-class existence in which they do not fit.

They come to romanticize primitivism, or an idealized past where they believed life was more meaningful, and people like them had a place. A good explanation can be found at this site:

http://www.mesoweb.com/pari/publ...nal/03/ mud.html

Funny thing is, people like this have existed at all times and in all societies. This shadow of the middle class only became destructive as the middle classes themselves have been empowered.

Perhaps this explains the socialists' love for the terrorists. In them perhaps they see a brother.
R S | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 12:32 pm | #

R S,

Thanks for the reference. He identified the worship of the primitive as a pernicious mental aberration. Unfortunately he did not speculate as to its cause. I suggest the following.

Living by reason requires one to take full responsibility for the content of one's mind and one's character. As a consequence, you are fully responsible for what you do and cause to happen. Your primary authority is your own knowledge acquired by your own efforts of what is and can be. This is true for every minute of your life. Teachers may show the way but the individual is responsible for everything. He lives by understanding reality and using his environment to make what he needs.

On the other hand, the primitive need only copy the thoughts and actions of his ancestors. The shaman, witch doctor, and priest provide for the transmission of all that must be copied from the distant past. The only fault that accrues to the individual primitive is to the degree he fails to copy the ancestral way.
The primitive is thereby NOT to be responsible for the content of his mind and his character.

What happens to the primitive is thought by the primitive to be the fault of the gods, goddesses, spirits, and demons who inhabit anything and everything. He lives by persuading reality to give him what he needs by use of magic, ritual, and human/animal sacrifice.

The primitive worshiper is essentially saying that he does not want to be responsible for himself nor for whatever his actions cause. At the same time, he wants the content of his mind (his wishes, whims, fantasies, feelings) to be all powerful and control reality as if he were god. He wants his cake and be able to eat it too.
A. Rational Human | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:48 pm | #

Islamophobia (fear of islam) is the wrong term. It should be something like "islamostynos" meaning "hateful, loathsome islam."
Robert M. Sykes | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 1:58 pm | #

As for those desirous of primitive living. The truth of the matter is there has never been an opportunity like America offers to get off the beaten path if one so desires.

The very ones that complain about the keeping up with the Jones's greediness in America, are the ones that can't stop, and go so far as demand, that they be able to keep up.
SteveH | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 2:04 pm | #

SteveH wrote: there has never been an opportunity like America offers to get off the beaten path if one so desires.

That's very true. See The Back Country Horsemen ( http://www.bchc.com/ ) for an example. They enjoy returning to the back country life of the early 19th century once in a while.

However, the primitive worshipers really do not want to be primitive. They simply want to take your stuff and live without responsibility for themselves. At the same time, they want to control your life and your environment. You are nothing but a means to their ends. You don't really exist as a living being with individual rights that should be respected.
A. Rational Human | Email | Homepage | 08.18.07 - 2:15 pm | #

The Quran(Koran) Concerning other monotheist faiths:


Not all of them are alike; a party of the people of the Scripture stand for the right, they recite the Verses of God during the hours of the night, prostrating themselves in prayer. They believe in God and the Last Day; they enjoin good and forbid wrong; and they hasten in good works; and they are among the righteous. And whatever good they do, nothing will be rejected of them; for God knows well those who are God fearing. 3:113-115

And there are, certainly, among the people of the Scripture, those who believe in God and in that which has been revealed to you, and in that which has been revealed to them, humbling themselves before God. They do not sell the Verses of God for a little price, for them is a reward with their Lord. Surely, God is Swift in account. 3:199

Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in God and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve . 2:62

Say: "O people of the Scripture : Come to a word that is just between us and you, that we worship none but God, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords besides God. 3:64

And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to God and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment. 2.111-113

If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them 4.124



The Quran(Koran) Concerning freedom:



2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message .

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides Him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you a guardian over them.

4:79-80 Say:'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

17:53-54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner. Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you with power to determine their Faith.

24.54. Say: "Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. but if ye turn away, he is only responsible for the duty placed on him and ye for that placed on you. If ye obey him, ye shall be on right guidance. The Messenger's duty is only to preach the clear (Message).

88:21 22; And so, exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

42:6 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."


And We have not sent you, but as mercy to all the worlds. 21:107



Islam is peace!
Bigmo | Email | Homepage | 08.25.07 - 5:22 pm | #