Sounds like a Monty Python routine - funny in a very sad way.

The problem lies with the public schools (as well as parents who have lost their way, and who don't demand the schools be returned to America's original ideals), as most religious people know.
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia...World- Peace.htm

Note that the Rebbe doesn't insist on any more than a return to what America once stood for. He elaborates in other places on how providing after school programs, where children participate in meaningful activities and are exposed to decent role models, is what should be done, and has succeeded whenever it was employed.


Sounds like the Saturday Night skit: "It's Pat."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat...day_Night_Live)


Every "progressive" agenda of the left is manifested to destroy the identity and self-confidence of the individual - the individual - the basic unit of capitalistic society.

This you can see in the form of anti-patriotism, anti-nationalism, anti-gender nut cases like this "couple", anti-be proud of your family/ race, etc. etc.

The ironic thing to me is how many gullible college going idiots fail to see this simple concept and fall in their trap.


"..the ultimate goal remains the same: it is anti-mind, anti-life, and anti-reality." And anti-responsibility! By demonizing nature, and blaming social forces for potential damage to their child, they avoid having to parent responsibly. What a sham (and a shame).


This is a runaway ideology. There have been many examples of this, each more stupid than the next. There are worse examples than what these parents did, from history : suicide-waves, where out of nowhere thousands of unrelated (usually young) people commit suicide, for no discernable reason. This happened twice in the Roman empire, a few times in Byzantium, everyone knows "die leiden des youngen Werthers" (in which some parents actually encouraged their children to commit suicide, can you imagine ?). But there are others.

Other waves have existed : Catilina's whore politics are a good example of this. Many instances of iconoclasm were also recorded in history. They came out of nowhere, grew like wildfire, destroyed lots of lives and yet more property, and they destroyed themselves. 5 years after they happened there wasn't a trace of the ideology left.

There is nothing that can be done about this phenomenon. People having some modus operandi that is anti-nature but not anti-society. And this can be sustained for a short while, allowing the ideology to grow. But needless to say, our society, no matter how powerfull, will eventually fail to protect these people from nature, and *boom*.

Nothing will be left of them. Of course those who don't participate are left to clean up the mess.


You know, implicit in this whole thing is the idea that the child is a helpless victim of social stereotypes. The logical conclusion of their contention that gender is a (harmful) social construct would be to teach the child to identify and resist it, not to try to shelter the child from it in a ridiculous way.


Want to bet these anonymous parents are both 'highly educated' than your regular folks?

'Highly educated' means they may hold some advanced degree in a very narrow specific field, but completely lacking in all other areas that comprise of a human being?


Maybe this is a pre-emptive strike.

If (When) the kids turned out to be turds or something, the parents can say it was not their fault. They gave every possilbe 'choice' to the child to decide on their own.


They will let the child choose its gender? I wonder if they will be so liberal with table manners. And somehow I doubt that if the child expresses a desire to eat McDonald's at every meal they will be so hands-off.

This would be hilarious if a real life child's life weren't being ruined.


Sweden has threatened to have a "man tax" as they feel that men are responsible for all our ills. This is just a personal extension of a nutty country.


These Swedish parents are trying to play God with their child. All they will accomplish is the destruction of a human being. This notion that gender is merely an artificial construct has already destroyed a young man, David Reimer, who committed suicide in 2004.

David Reimer's penis was accidentally burned during a circumcision procedure and then had to be cut off when he was a baby. His parents were advised by a prominent psychologist to raise him as a girl. His tragic life is described in: "As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who was Raised as a Girl," by John Colapinto, NY: HarperCollins, 2000.

There are summaries of his story online; one is in Slate.


"David Reimer's penis was accidentally burned during a circumcision procedure..."

Say what? "Burned?" There's never any fire involved, whether if done by a Doctor or by a Mohel.


I'll betcha a hundred bucks that the kid "chooses" his/her actual gender -- and this will simply frustrate the idiot procreators (not gonna call these fools "mother" and "father") to no end.


I find it amusing that they call the child "Pop". If I hear someone called Pop, I assume they are male, and probably a father or senior. There must be something in the water.


Reply to HasItBeen4YearsYet: The doctor used an inappropriate instrument and procedure for the circumcision, which caused the burning. Because the burning was so bad, the child's penis had to be surgically removed.


You honestly cannot make this stuff up. The left is crazier than any satire could ever hope to portray.


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Odd that they would do an experiment like this with their own child. The Nazis did similar things, but they used Jews and Gypsies, whom they didn't consider human.
But as long as they're going to do it why stop there? I think it demonstrates a certain chauvinism. They are restricting the child's choices to varieties of homo sapiens. This leaves out 99.99% of the animal kingdom. The child might prefer life as a duck. Or a sea urchin.
And then there's plants. I always thought Spanish moss had it pretty soft.
And imagine playtime. Instead of the boring old "playing doctor" the child could play the "county agricultural extension agent" game and pretend to be hoof-and-mouth disease. Or root rot.


It's too bad in this case that the biological realities this couple is trying to deny, was successful.


Please remember and reread the case of Dr. John Money:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Money

He was, for all intents and purposes, a monster.

Read about the case that disgraces his entire gender premise:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dav...ki/ David_Reimer


"A perfectly good fellow, Lort Beaumont of Foxwood--don't you know his name? He is a man of transparent sincerity, a nobleman who does more work than a navvy, a socialist, and anarchist, I don't know what' anyhow he's a philosopher and a philanthropist. I admit he has the slight disadvantage of being, beyond all question, off his head. He has the real disadvantage which has arisen out of the modern worship of progress and novelty; and he thinks that anything odd and new must be an advance. If you went to him and proposed to eat your grandmother, he would agree with you, so long as you put it on hygenic and public grounds, as a cheap alternative to cremation. So long as you are progressing fast enough, it seems a matter of indifference to him whether you are progressing to the stars or to the devil. So his house is filled with an endless succession of literary and political fashions; men who wear long hair because it is romantic; men who wear short hair because it is medical; men who walk on their feet only to exercise their hands; and men who walk on their hands for fear of tiring their feet."

----G.K.Chesteron, The Club of Queer Trades

In this case, though, I'll disagree with G.K.C. His Lord Beaumont may have had the best of intentions, but he coupled that with being a moral simpleton. And like most moral simpletons, he was a moral simpleton by his own choice. This is called vincible ignorance--ignorance that you are capable of overcoming--and does not excuse you from damaging moral judgement.


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> Sounds like the Saturday Night skit: "It's Pat."

Beat me to it. :oP


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I predict, many years in advance -- this is going to be one F***ed up kid.


I'll betcha a hundred bucks that the kid "chooses" his/her actual gender -- and this will simply frustrate the idiot procreators (not gonna call these fools "mother" and "father") to no end.
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You're 100% correct. No matter what progressives want to think, gender is based in biology, and anyone with a critical mind (which is obviously lacking in these people) can see that.


In many other times and places, raising a child like this might be called "child abuse."


Roderick Reilly | 06.30.09 - 5:50 pm |

I heard him speak once at Hopkins, back in the late 70's. "Monster" vastly understates the evil of that man.


"... The doctor used an inappropriate instrument and procedure for the circumcision, which caused the burning. Because the burning was so bad, the child's penis had to be surgically removed.
Gloria | 06.30.09 - 2:48 pm |

Thanks. I hope they nailed that Dr. and Hospital for the max in damages. Maybe then they will learn not to use the wrong tools for the job.


> In many other times and places, raising a child like this might be called "child abuse."

No, no, that would be actually disciplining a child properly using physical force with appropriate restraint.

I believe we're well into the period Robert Heinlein referred to as "The Crazy Years" in his Future History.

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Just on the off chance that "pop" means something else in Swedish, I tried a couple of translation sites. They give the English equivalent of "pop" as "pop."

When I was a teacher I had to read a book called "The Outsiders." One of the characters is named Sodapop and as a Michigander I know that the proper term for soft drinks is "pop." Maybe the character is the reference.

Then again, maybe the parents are lunatics.


I read the link about Dr. John Money.

Good God. What a sicko. He's in a class with Dr. Mengele.


> The logical conclusion of their contention that gender is a (harmful) social construct would be to teach the child to identify and resist it, not to try to shelter the child from it in a ridiculous way.

Indeed, this is where some of the early feminist ideas held promise, until the loons got ahold of them.

They decided women were the victims of men, rather than that the gender roles involved in both genders had become dated and partly, if not largely, ineffective in a modern industrial (and now post-industrial) society.


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