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Beauchamp used a national publication and his "authority" as a soldier to slander our troops, demoralize our country, and undercut our war effort. How is he any different from Tokyo Rose, who used the airwaves to do the same?
Are these TNR liberals in such a deep orbit around reality that they don't understand the meaning of the word "treason" -- and that pathological narcissism is NOT a defense? DrakeDB | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 9:54 am | #
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I have yet to see anybody PAY for the transgression they generated. All they did was to issue a tiniest print retraction on page 34 behind the "Bacteria Ate My Grandma" story.
Until we demand REAL responsibility from these guys, another "Fake But Accurate" moment is bound to happen.
Have you ever wonder What If World War III started with a fake story? Wouldn't those peaceniks be so proud? always right | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 10:01 am | #
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Let’s remember that the new Managing Editor of TNR, Franklin Foer, hates America as much as his Daddy did. Peretz should fire Franklin Foer's ass, before more hate-America spew stains TNR.
Just connect the dots. No fault on the left, as Mark Rudd told me decades ago when I was a deluded SDS volunteer. He smoked my dope & left me with the advice, "Dare to cheat, dare to win." Could be Columbia U's motto! At least when CSJ hands out Pulitzers! djman114@bellsouth.net | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 10:26 am | #
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Pretty good Doc.
How's this for a laugh:
In their August 2 statement, the New Republic's editors complained that the military investigation was "short-circuiting" TNR's own fact-checking efforts [that in itself is hilarious]. "Beauchamp," they said, "had his cell-phone and computer taken away and is currently unable to speak to even his family [aaawwww sniff-sniff]. His fellow soldiers no longer feel comfortable communicating with reporters [reporter?! HA!]. If further substantive information comes to light, TNR will, of course, share it with you." (comments mine)
~Snort~ ...His fellow soldiers no longer feel comfortable communicating with reporters. Yeah riiight. Damn, them boys and TNR sure have some brass cajones eh?
More than likely they have Beauchamp in protective custody guarded by MP's. Moreover, who can blame the military for confiscating his phone and computer as he is no doubt also being investigated for crimes under the UMCJ which charges are surely pending.
My question is: why in Gods name did this boy even enlist? Jack Ryan | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 11:53 am | #
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If one is to believe his site then one might think he thought it would give his fictional accounts the same status of those made by John Kerry.
What better to prepare yourself for political office than to emulate JF. Dennis | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:01 pm | #
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I attribute this to TNR's dedicated team of fact chuckers. Gagdad Bob | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:18 pm | #
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The President is a liar --Check
You entered the war under false pretenses --check
You've lost this war. --check, check
Yeah, sounds alot like Tokyo Rose to me. xqqme | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:30 pm | #
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Saddam and his sons knew how to deal with traitors.
Dear Leader Kim Jong-Il knows how to deal with traitors.
When are we going to? Headless Unicorn Guy | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 12:57 pm | #
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He is being paid by Karl Rove to recant. All the more reason Bushitler must be impeached!
Reality-based truth community rulz! bulbasaur | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:05 pm | #
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For the drive-by media professionals at TNR, this story falls under the category of "too good not to be true" -- which really means "too harmful to America's image to be checked."
Such inflammatory accusations against our military are every left-winger's dream come true. I would bet money that if Beauchamp appeared at the YearlyKos convention he would receive a standing ovation. GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 1:55 pm | #
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Well Beauchamp saw the same technique worked for John Kerry...why would it not work for him? Wr_guy | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:01 pm | #
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Ha! Nicely done.
(The line should end ... echoed "Fraud!") htom | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:04 pm | #
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The crowd that would cry lke Paris Hilton on her way back to jail if they had to go to Iraq themselves making fun of a regular soldier?
While worshipping the rich rubes who got us into that mess?
Who said America doesn't have a peasant class? alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:21 pm | #
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There cannot, nor should not, be any civil discourse with narcissistic human beings who cannot be shamed by being exposed as bald faced liars. SteveH | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:42 pm | #
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Making fun of a regular soldier? God alphie, I'm sure you fantasize that Beauchamp is a regular soldier but in the real world, he is nothing of the sort. But leave it to you and your pathetic ilk to defend the Beauchamps and defame the honorable.
You are an annoying, cowardly little troll who adds NOTHING to the conversation but only insults - which by the way, I would bet the bank you would never dare say to my face pal. So I hope you take great comfort in hiding behind your monitor, little alphie. Jack Ryan | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:54 pm | #
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You're a real jackass, Alphie. snoring citizen | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 3:56 pm | #
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What are you saying, Jack?
That Beauchamp enlisted so he could get sent to Iraq for 18 months...just so he could write that he saw a soldier run over a dog?
I think we all know you guys would wail like Paris Hilton getting sent back to jail if you had to go to Iraq for a year...or even one day.
So what defense mechanism causes people to attack folks like Beauchamp, I wonder?
I'm sure the Doc knows. alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:00 pm | #
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WHAT AM I SAYING???!!! WHAT AM I SAYING??!!!
HOLY FUCTARDS ALPHIE.
YOU'RE NOT FAKING ARE YOU? YOU TRULY ARE AN IDIOT.
ps - I understand you get your rocks off pushing other peoples buttons but if you ever dared speak to me like this in person we would truly see who cries like a girl. This is the last time I will ever respond to you. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Jack Ryan | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:15 pm | #
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That's it, Jack.
Let it all out.
Then restart your daydream that you would march into Iraq like John Wayne.
And tearing down a guy who did doesn't really make you a peasant.
It makes you a hero. alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:49 pm | #
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Jack - Don't take "Alphie" so seriously. She's really a clever conservative. She's just posing as a left-winger in order to make them all look stupid. A real leftie -- even the dumber ones -- would not be so crude in self-portrayal.
(Wink, wink, "Alphie", outstanding job!) GnuCarSmell | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:53 pm | #
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Watch alphie dodge and weave, projecting whatever it can upon its opponents all so it can get its sick need for attention fulfilled. Patrick Chester | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 4:54 pm | #
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Just who do people like our resident troll think is over there fighting this volunteer war?
Hint..
It aint platoons of Liberal Castrati who hate themselves, their parents, their country and their species. SteveH | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:04 pm | #
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How many of the 160,000 or so U.S. troops currently serving in Iraq would stay there if Bush gave them the option to leave, Steve?
I bet we never find out. alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:35 pm | #
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Can I butt in here just to say that this poem is a masterpiece? Loved it! Lone Ranger | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 5:53 pm | #
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The left really just plainly doesn't know the difference between truth and lies. For years the lefties went around screaming "Clinton didn't lie!" which they later had to modify to "so what if he lied?" Then the left tries to claim that Bush lied, when Bush didn't lie. And now the lamestream reporters who are obviously of the left persuasion are getting caught in lie after lie.
Maybe that's another reason the left is so hostile to the Judeo-Christian ethic, because of the Commandment they espouse that says "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor." chicopanther | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 6:28 pm | #
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Look, ignore Alphie. He's a attention-seeking jackass who spends much of his pathetic life hopping from one blog to another pissing on the rug with snide comments. Smith | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 6:32 pm | #
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Great little parody, Doc. I believe you've captured the essence of the affair perfectly. joated | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 7:50 pm | #
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Not much time left to pull off a loss... and the clock's ticking. Michael Yon : Online Magazine � Blog Archive � Bread and a Circus, Part II of II
I recalled one of the bureaucrat’s comments, upon hearing that al Qaeda had scattered like rabbits out of Baqubah. He seemed at first not to believe that news, but once he got confirmation, he made a point to tell us what that news actually meant: if al Qaeda was done in Baqubah, al Qaeda was done in Iraq. Step by step, the job's being done. The MSM doesn't concentrate on the small things, like food convoys and Sunni-Shia cooperation (even if reluctant) because good news is no news. Blood sells, not food. And in today's infotainment industry, bad news will win out every time.
J. JLawson | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 8:42 pm | #
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Lone Ranger
Uh, Kemo Sabe, old political humor of professionals not as good as most of what Doc writes in that genre. And it just her hobby.
You may have silver bullet, but she have silver words. And she just as good shot, too. Tonto | Email | Homepage | 08.07.07 - 9:59 pm | #
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Current zones U.S. military personnel receive combat (imminent danger) pay for serving in:
Afghanistan
Iraq
Kuwait
Saudi Arabia
Oman
Bahrain
Qatar
United Arab Emirates
Kosovo
http://www.militarymoney.com/getthis/49
I sure you wingnuts will be demanding money back from all the pikers who collected combat pay for serving in Kuwait, right? alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 12:14 am | #
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=32dNtm-yX1w
The above link is to a youtube compilation of USMC recruiting commercials and such complied from other youtube postings.
The part that is relevant to this discussion begins at about the 6:10 mark.
Every man and woman that has ever served in the uniformed services is bound by oath to oppose all enemy, foreign AND domestic.
Most of us still hold that oath as sacred and are simply waiting to see if the justice department will step up and do its duty before it becomes necessary for us to do ours.
Bauchamp is an Astroturf. It is well known that some of those who adhere to our enemy, foreign and domestic, joined up specifically to be able to have "cred" when they begin to play their turn at Winter Soldier. Their goal is to make it appear to be a grassroots uprising but in fact it is completely choreographed and organized. That's where the term Astroturf comes into application. Fake grass.
Betrayal, especially during a time of war, is the one, truly universal taboo. Betrayal is also the single most harshly punished of crimes all through history in every culture/society. The day will come. The only remaining question is by what mechanism, law enforcement enforcing federal law, or armed men, no longer under the strictures of active contract, honoring their oath. Grimmy | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 3:24 am | #
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Grimmy, I'd say the entire democrat field is covered in Astroturf. SteveH | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 4:02 am | #
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Actually, Grimmy,
I believe the oath is to defend the Constitution against enemies both foreign and domestic.
You know, the one that gives Americans the right to freedom of speech? alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 4:17 am | #
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Freedom of speech, alphie, does not, nor has it ever, allowed for or excused those who agitate for, propagandize for or work toward the defeat of our own and the victory of an enemy during a time of war.
Your mis-comprehension, no matter from what source or from what cause will not provide you cover.
You have chosen to stand for the enemy, openly and vocally in many forums. That was your choice.
Reply as you will, you have no value to me as a person, other than an eventual target. Same as all enemy, either foreign or domestic.
I leave you with this reminder:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/...Cite:
+18USC2388
TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I--CRIMES
CHAPTER 115--TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES
Sec. 2388. Activities affecting armed forces during war
(a) Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully makes or
conveys false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with
the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United
States or to promote the success of its enemies; or
Whoever, when the United States is at war, willfully causes or
attempts to cause insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of
duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or willfully
obstructs the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, to
the injury of the service or the United States, or attempts to do so--
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty
years, or both.
(b) If two or more persons conspire to violate subsection (a) of
this section and one or more such persons do any act to effect the
object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall
be punished as provided in said subsection (a).
(c) Whoever harbors or conceals any person who he knows, or has
reasonable grounds to believe or suspect, has committed, or is about to
commit, an offense under this section, shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(d) This section shall apply within the admiralty and maritime
jurisdiction of the United States, and on the high seas, as well as
within the United States. Grimmy | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 4:36 am | #
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So when Bush said, "Bring it on" to the Iraqi insurgents, he committed treason?
And you seem to be advocating an armed insurrection here at home, which I believe is also treason, Grimmy. alphie | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 4:54 am | #
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Grimmy, if you think you have a chance of reasoning with the resident troll, dont hold your breath.
A person who hates America will never experience shame in their position, or even comprehend the position of someone who wants to see America succeed in a hostile world.
I vote the resident troll be banned as he's adding about as much to the conversation as a repetitious Parrot trained by the enemies of Liberty. SteveH | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 5:25 am | #
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SteveH:
I hear yeah. I've danced with that degenerate piece of leftard on other blog comment areas. He's nothing new to me.
I am well versed in his inability to relate to anything other than his recitation of incompetent idiocies.
He is enemy. An adherent to the cause of our enemy is also enemy. It is really that simple. Grimmy | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 6:52 am | #
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djman--
I don't believe Eric Foner of Columbia is Franklin Foer's daddy. Franklin did attend Columbia, however. Brett | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 8:07 am | #
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Good one Alphie!
I always knew the progs considered themselves the aristocracy and the producers as their serfs. Thanks for making that explicit, a feature usually lacking your faction's authoritarian broadsides Brett | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 8:11 am | #
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Today even the NY Times and Washington Post weighed in with the same conclusion: Beauchamp's diaries are phoney.
Leftists believe it's their Constitutional right to support our enemy in wartime. Absolutely staggering, but I look at the facts and I honestly can't draw another conclusion.
Writing and publishing propaganda for the enemy? No problem! Leaking intelligence secrets and perfectly legal surveillance programs? No problem! Screaming "we lost the war" over and over, even when it's still winnable? No problem!
These folks have grown up in unfettered freedom the likes of which the world has never seen, and yet they happily serve those who would plunge the world into servitude and put millions to death along the way.
Cool, man. DrakeDB | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 8:12 am | #
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One good thing about the entire Beauchamp affair--since he's in the military and his fellow soldiers are all well armed, it'll be a self-correcting problem. Don't be surprised if an "accident" befalls Private Beauchamp, especially after the way he's dissed his fellow soldiers. At least John Kerry was smart enough to diss his fellow soldiers after he was out of uniform and away from high powered weaponry. chicopanther | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 10:07 am | #
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PSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHT
ytba | 08.01.07 - 9:16 pm | and | 08.01.07 - 5:36 pm | for starters.
The only way to "debate" a phlie, keep reminding people of what an absolute idiot it is, as pointed out by several others here.
And it's no trouble, all I have to do now is keep posting, uh, I mean spraying, this anti-phlie stuff whenever it buzzzes in. RAID | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 11:08 am | #
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aphlie's homepage is alphavictim. That should tell all something.
It shouldn't be banned, however. But we have to learn how to quit enabling this destructive behavior. xqqme | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 12:41 pm | #
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The Mighty Casey struck out. Solomon2 | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 1:37 pm | #
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alphie appears not a victim of circumstances, but of a cast of mind.
Methinks this creature needs a shrink, badly!
Brett, yes, the Foner/Foer mixup was an unforced error, perhaps caused a bit by their ideological parallel paths. daveinboca | Email | Homepage | 08.08.07 - 3:03 pm | #
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