actually, orson plagiarized a statement that i read on the internet a couple of years ago that went something very much like this:

"Regardless of law, torture has only one definition, and any government that attempts to change it is my mortal enemy. I will act to destroy that government and bring it down, so it can be replaced with a government that will never support torture, and help me raise my children in a society where they will expect to never have to fight such a battle again. Moral imperatives such as the proscription against torture trump laws. American government cannot fight a so-called "war on terror" while legalizing torture and hope to endure. If the Constitution is defined in such a way as to justify the use of torture under any circumstances, it is that insane Constitution, not the belief that torture is immoral, that will die."
r@d@r | Homepage | 08.21.08 - 4:39 pm | #

Interesting. Got a link for that?
dyre42 | Homepage | 08.22.08 - 4:51 pm | #

i'm not sure but i think it was patrick nielsen hayden at making light. i'm trying to find it now.
r@d@r | Homepage | 08.27.08 - 5:31 pm | #

okay, it's not word-for-word, but see if you can spot the resonance i was hearing:

Any government, led by any party or individual, that does not draw an uncrossable barrier around the use of torture, is a government that chooses emnity with humankind. And being human, I am, by default, committed to be an enemy of that government.
r@d@r | Homepage | 08.27.08 - 5:36 pm | #

uh, make that kevin hayden at american street. wrong hayden. i keep making that mistake.
r@d@r | Homepage | 08.27.08 - 6:12 pm | #