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Liberals! How dare they try to take away my three month Christmas Season


My Constitutional right to worship something that has gotten so materialistic its painful to watch is being infringed!


set up the barracades! load your shotguns! bring out the cannons! the phrase happy holidays is destroying christmas!


Personally Christmas is a big part in my life (even though our family is athiest and I am agnostic) because it was a time for our family to get together and just enjoy each other's company and drink some eggnog and eat some chicken.
Although I agree with Mr.Gibson that Christmas should not be banned for public viewing in exchange for this "Happy Holidays" nonesense I don't believe in protecting a Christmas that is nothing but shopping mall propaganda.
I would personally love to see all the holiday traditions out in full. I may not celebrate things like Kwanza or Chanukah but they are a celebration of culture which everyone should enjoy.
So in summation if Mr.Gibson is going to complain about how Christmas is being "banned" we need to clean up all the holidays sales crap behind it first.


Exactly


Chickenbrowser, you and Bashxtor and God.


What the hell do I have to do with this Larry


Your comments on "No Exit Plan" - other than that, nothing really.


i even wonder if people actually look up the orgins of this holiday or blindly follow the bible, Christmas was Originally a Wiccan festival known as yule, celebrating the seasonal change to winter


Man, O'Reilly cracks me up every time! Had to use Xmas to draw attention to his usual blibber-blabber.

Also love that tree on the cover. Yep it's Pagan/Wiccan, so obviously it's part of a "sacred Christian holiday."
http://www.religioustolerance.or...g/ xmas_tree.htm


As for the holidays, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't really matter what the stores do with it or what anyone else does with it. We will still celebrate Christmas. We don't believe in any of the other things why celebrate them? Christmas has been completely commercialized but that doesn't mean that we don't celebrate it. Christmas (for my family of Christians) is a time to celebrate our Saviours birth. The presents, the tree, and everything else is just our way of celebrating it. So, unless you guys start trying to make Christmas illegal, I really have no issue.


Make Christmas... illegal? Last time I checked, there is such a thing as being Christian and being liberal at the same time. Regardless, why the hell would we "plot the banning of Christmas"? I say we plot the banning of screwy media franchises.


Ok, that banning Christmas thing was sarcasm. Really stupid sarcasm, sorry. Yes, liberals can be Christians. In fact anybody could be a Christian if they wanted to. By the way, when in this post did I say that liberals couldn't be Christians?


Does every post have to be a response to yours?


Like Sam T said, he's just making up a crisis to sell a book.


Nvr mind.


I have three things to say. First of all, how do you ban a celebration in a private residence? It seems to me that liberals would not favor raids and other Orwellian measures. Secondly, I am agnostic, liberal, and celebrate Christmas. In fact, most liberals celebrate Christmas. Why would we try to ban it. Finally, this setup is screwy. You take a day, capitalize on it, proclaim it holy, then capitalize on alleged plot to 'ban' said day by writing a book. Next thing you know, he will be calling his book holy, and writing another book about how liberals want to ban his first book, THAT I might support.


Whatever side you're on, you have to admit any movement that is leading to the prevalence of "diversity trees" is annoying.


HOW DARE YOU!

After seeing your horrid smoking commercial, I followed the link back to this site to see who was responsible for corrupting the minds of our youth with cigarrettes. Of course, it was a dirty LIBERAL!

How dare you try to steal Christmas from us, and bash such adored FOX news anchors as John Gibson!

Not only are you corrupting America's youth, but now you are trying to steal the holidays from us? INSANE MY FRIEND! INSANE!


Lbert, wow, even I didn't go that far. Ok, I think they already said that they are not trying to steal the holiday Christmas. People running the stores did that for them. Now Lbert, I got no idea who you are but I do know this, calling people dirty liberals doesn't change anything. Attacking with these charges is't going to do you any good (except maybe get you severely slandered on this site trust me I've been there). As for the holidays, why do we want the different stores to mess around with the holidays when all that does is make it so people on tv shows can show people the "true meaning of Christmas." I say they should just get rid of it all. That way the holiday remains sacred. That's what they are saying and if you think about it very long it makes sense.


In short, I don't think anybody here is "the Grinch." Even the Grinch figured out that you can't stop Christmas from coming.


I know, lbert, we are terrible murderous incarnations of Satan. And according to Ann Coulter, also baby killers.


I still hate O'riely and all the other crap on Fox newss


I've got this really bad feeling Libert is a prank played by someone here...


I got that feeling too...
Lbert just seems so far fetched...

By the way, Baxthor seems to be dorment in these discussions.


"HOW DARE YOU!

After seeing your horrid smoking commercial, I followed the link back to this site to see who was responsible for corrupting the minds of our youth with cigarrettes. Of course, it was a dirty LIBERAL!

How dare you try to steal Christmas from us, and bash such adored FOX news anchors as John Gibson!

Not only are you corrupting America's youth, but now you are trying to steal the holidays from us? INSANE MY FRIEND! INSANE!"

Its just so dramatic and unreal. Who knows?


Agreed. It is not humanly possible for someone to be that conservative.


"By the way, Baxthor seems to be dorment in these discussions."

is that supposed to mean you think that Baxtor is LBert? Or did I just totally misunderstand you?

sorry for double posting


I gotta admit, it's a little much for me even, but he oddly sounds like Pat Roberts.


I'm a buddist


Kidding.


Good for you.


I don't like Lbert.
And if he's a prank.


It sucked.


Yeah, I'm a little surprised he hasn't said anything more (still cracking up over the poor excuse for a conservative comment).


I assure you k, it is possible to be that conservative. Look up Fred Phelps.


Ech, I'm jewish. I do agree that most of christmas is shopping crap.


Anyone who didn't get the point of Lbert's post needs a serious humor infusion... GO WATCH SOME EBOLAWORLD CARTOONS, DAMMIT!


Sorry Drew, I wasn't responding to you in particular, just the idea in general.

And LBert, shameful acting, just shameful. Almost bad enough to make a Speilberg sci-fi flick. Ever think of applying?


"and I thought I knew what ridiculous was, till this day."


WHY ARE YOU TALKING TO YOURSELF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


????????


I ditto EvilPie.


we actually agree on something! nay!!!


nay being a combination of no and yay.


what? Are you saying you hate agreeing with me just because you don't like to agree? Or am Ijust really confused now?


Heres a controversial drug for all of your religious beliefs!



http://indianburialground.com/w3.mp3


Enjoy it and live well in laughter!


BTW, Buddhism is more of a philosophy than a religion. Buddha was an actual historical person, and he specifically stated that he DID NOT WANT his techings to become anything resembling a religion.

The thing is that as Buddhism spread some of the local beliefs that it replaced got incorporated into it in some places, so in some places it became more like a religion than what Buddha originally intended.

/I'm not a Buddhist, but there's a really intereting National Geographic article about it this month.


As for "winter break" and "holiday tree" - who cares? I don't care either way, whatever it's called - a rose by any other name is still a rose.

My family celebrates New Years, by the way, as does mostly everyone from Russia (which is really good because it means that we get free "christmas trees" - we just pick one up after the folks who celebrate Christmas throw theirs out). Christmas in the Russian Orthodox Church is on a completely different date, as some of you may know.


Esn, your from Russia?! That's cool. Yeah, I don't see why everybody cares. Why don't you celebrate what you want to celebrate and let the stores screw themselves over. Makes sense to me.


Hey anyone here?


HELLO?


Ok, I completely agree with colin. BUT! If Lbert DOESN'T really think that way, and that were just a hoax, we have just been spitting into the wind. We just jumped on the first sign of a conservative.


Ugh , This thing is all messed up! They should all just leave Christmas alone! What did Christmas ever do to them??? huh? God , Those freakin idiots!


What is going on with this I post comments and they get deleted?


@Kevin: Who, the liberals?


wait a minute, esn i thought you were canadien?


TMMT is the Canadian.


TMMT = The Marvelous Mr. T?


I'm Canadian, but I was born in Russia.

I LIVE in Toronto, Canada.


::Snort:: Like ALL of Japan, my friends & I look at Chris-Miss as a completely commercial holliday, an excuse to spend money, & another excuse to buy stuff to bling up the house. That's why we love it! ^o^ Also a good time to listen to funny music on the radio like "the 12 pains of christmas" & "Grandpa got run over by a beer truck."

NOT using Merry Christmas isn't going to effect the stores at ALL. As long as they have shit to buy, people will come.


Happy St. Capitolists' Month!


Lai Lai, are you a cute Japanese girl?


hey anyone here


Pretty creepy, Bax.


Putting all religious beliefs behind us, and so be it that Christmas was originally a pegan/wiccan holiday celebrating the winter it still for hundreds of years has been a celebration of the birth of Jesus of Nazareth. Again take all mysticism out of him and it could be said that he was just a good man and by anyone’s standards him life and teachings could be emulated. I think that Gibson is wrong in saying that by not using the word Christmas it will make people turn into drug using whores inflicting massive indecency upon unsuspecting three year old children (OK I know he didn’t really say that). I do however think that we should look at Christ as a good person, a good thing, that teaching someone to love his neighbor as well as his enemies is something to celebrate. In saying that it’s a joke that Gibson is trying to save Christmas even though it has already been corrupted by incessant marketing is trying to compare two similar subjects with no real barring. I think that it’s a shame that the world can’t just say “this is something good, albeit that it isn’t exactly coinciding with my personal beliefs it doesn’t change the fact that is GOOD and I will support it instead of trying to change it or destroy it.”


Actually Jason, there is one problem with your theory/idea (whatever you want to call it). Jesus Christ claimed to be GOD. Good people don't claim to be God. The only people who claim to be God are: psychos, people who want scandals, or God Himself. If Jesus is not God, then He managed to: fool 12 people into dying for a lie, devastate the Jewish society by destroying their belief system, and managed to fulfill hundreds of prophecies made hundreds, nay thousands of years before he existed. If he did THAT then he is beyond the shadow of the doubt the biggest prankster and sacandaler in HISTORY. As for the Bible being "just a story" try this. The Bible was written by about 40-50 different authors, and everything they wrote matches up with no inconsistencies. Ever heard of Josh McDowell? He tried to prove the Bible inconsistant and unfactual and just plain false. He is now one of the most devout defenders of "The Faith."
So, if nothing else don't call Jesus a good man. He is either crazy or he is God no middle ground.


Dont you think its kinda weird that we celebrate Jesus'es birthday,by not giving Jesus anything? We ought to leave a present for Jesus. I wonder if he'd take it.


Sorry if I didn’t make it abundantly clear that in my short commentary I tried to put all Mysticism and Belief aside. I do understand that Jesus was more than a man even if you consider him just a man. He is a unique historical figure in that he is one of the only people ever to claim that he was and is God. So I do agree with you that either he was as crazy as a pouched egg or he was in fact God. My point, along your terms, is that even if you consider him a nutcase he then was a nutcase that tried to make the world a better place by teaching patience, virtue, longsuffering, doing good to all man, and that the greatest person among us should be the servant. Jesus’ teaching and life regardless of the fact that he claimed to be God should be upheld and celebrated. If I walked around doing good to all men, teaching through example, and giving my very life for my cause all the while claiming to be the reincarnated Donald Duck doesn’t negate my teachings or change the fact that I was a good man. If people 2000 years from my death wanting to go around saying merry duckday and bunch of other people wanted to pretend that it had nothing to do with a duck it was just a celebration of a drop in temperature then I would still have to say shame on them for not at least supporting something good as crazy as it may sound. Just for the record I know that Jesus wasn’t a nutcase and that he in fact was God.
So Merry Duckday, I mean Christmas, and may God bless everyone!


he never claimed to be god


ummm... yes he did. He claimed to be God and man. He claimed to be the Saviour of the World. He even transfigured to show his closest apostles that he was who he claimed to be.


well, the point is, christmas is our holiday. Besides, don't people give presents on Hanuka (pardon if I misspelled)? It may not be so advertised here, but it sure as hell is in other parts of the world. The retailers still make money. It's not our fault that Hitler tried to exterminate the Jews. No offense to any members of the Jewish faith, by the way.


"Besides, don't people give presents on Hanuka"


Yes, I believe they do.


But Bushwaker, do you turn on a t.v. and see and hear "great rebates for your hunaka season!"? Do you see a Rabbi Claus ridding on his sleigh giving presents to all?


lol colin. Like I said, its not advertised here, but it is in other parts of the world or country. And, I said "don't people give" not "people don't give".


@Larry. Yeah , Those liberals!


@Colin

"Pretty creepy, Bax."

Haha I had no choice.


Kevin, it looks like you watch FOX News abit too much.


FOX may be putting out just a wee bit much, but what about the other, smaller news counterparts such as EXPRESS Newspaper or new-on-the-market radio stations? They tend to be more immune to the pull of bias. In fact, I'm gonna get an express right now.


"Wee bit much"? Have you seen Hannity & Colmes?

But to answer your question, people are probably going to pay more attention to the bias of a major news station rather than a much more minor newspaper.


in al franken's book, Lies and the lying Liars who tell them, he gave colmes a flaw in hannity's argument colmes decided not to use the argument. Plus what self-respecting liberal would agree to go on fox. Colmes is the embodiment of evil right alongside all those bitchs at fox news.

To Fox:

See you in hell Bitches.

To the rest of you,
Sorry about the profanity I just get angry when I mention Fox.


did you take your medecine?


@Larry , lol , I guess I do. But heres the thiung , I hardly EVER watch Fox news. Just based on what I have heard from comments on this site and the links Sam Provides I can fiqure out whats going on and comment on it.


*ahem*

Now then, can anyone tell me where the word "holiday" comes from? Anyone? Anyone?

I'll give you a hint: it was originally made up of TWO words.

That's really the funniest thing about this whole business. Silly Christians - they don't even know their own side when they see it!


You make a good point Esn but still a weak one. I understand that holiday comes from Holy Day but we "silly Christians" are concerned with the fact that the name of Christ is being taken out of this Holy Day. It’s kind of like celebrating St. Patrick’s Day and not mentioning the Irish, on a much smaller extent. I wouldn’t care if people went around saying “happy holiest of all holy days” actually if people did that it would be even more of a slap in the face. Christmas is based on the foundation of celebrating the birth of Christ. Much like this nation is still one nation under God. Don’t like it move to France.


Ok, ok, I wasn't trying to insult you - honest. Call it an oversight on my part, then. I understand a little better now why you're angry. But still:

"Christmas is based on the foundation of celebrating the birth of Christ."

It was originally a pagan celebration, actually - the date was kept simply because most people were pagans back then so it was a convenient one. There's nothing holy about the date itself - it's what you celebrate on that date. This doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but I'm just pointing out that what you celebrate is much more important than the actual date.

"Much like this nation is still one nation under God."
...only since 1954. The original proclamation from 1892 read:
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."


Nation under God? The money may say that, but not the Constitution. In fact, in 1776 our fathers endeavored to retire the gods from politics. They declared that "all governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed." Thomas Jefferson also has said one can believe in one god, many gods or no gods.

When stores say Happy Holidays, they are talking about the whole winter season in general; Xmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanza (seeing how they all happen around the same time). No one is out to stop anyone from saying Merry Christmas, putting up trees, or celebrating the birth of some guy. But let’s not forget the bible never says when he was born, nor does it say to celebrate his birth.


What say we just ignore John Gibson, get together with our families and celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanza, or whatever holiday you celebrate? Then we can unite in the spirit of humanity and celebrate by burning Fox to the ground.


Communists. All of you.


Communist, yes. There is nothing I enjoy more than calling people comrade, marching in straight lines, and having television sets explode in my face. That was sarcasm, by the way.


John Q Smith, you red. Go paint Mao's portrait.


Mamma Mia Maio.


WTC?!


Sam T, One thing to be clear on I don’t believe in school prayer, or that there should be any mixing of state and religion. Frankly I think the less the gov. is involved in our lives the better. However it is an undisputed fact that the founding fathers and the framers of the const. were Christians. Not that that means really anything but the fact that Jefferson said that one can believe in one god, many gods, or no gods is in fact also a belief, a sort of agnostic liberal belief that I also hold dear and support. I mean could you imagine if we had to believe in what Bush dictated.

Two, the Bible does in fact let us know when Christ was born, read chapter two of St Luke, he was born around tax day. Do a little more research and you’ll find that would have been around the first part of April. Most historians agree that Christ was born April 6th. Also do a little more study of the feast traditions of Israel ie Passover etc.. and understand that they were symbolic of looking forward to the birth of Christ, after he was born his apostles carried on the ancient traditions but now looking back on the birth of Christ, thus celebrating his birth. Its in there you just have to understand what you’re reading.


The three keys to studying and understanding the Bible are: context, context, context. You got to know that first before you can translate it.


If the birth is on the April 6th, then why the hell are you celebrating on Dec 25th? Did you guys not do your research?


"However it is an undisputed fact that the founding fathers and the framers of the const. were Christians."

Nope, deists.


And now, something (almost) completely unrelated...

If you guys want to have a little laugh, go look at Scott Adams' (creator of "Dilbert") new blog entry:

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/ t...g.html#comments

It's about cloning and souls and such. I absolutely love it. It illustrates quite nicely the trouble that religion has explaining today's advances in Biology. A lot of the people who replied are quite clueless, though - obviously, you can't create a clone that's the same age as you unless it's done when you're both just a single cell (like twins).


Stick wih the topic Esn


It sounds like this book was written by the Grinch at an P.R. attempt to get back at the Whos!


Ah, Christmas.
The season that no one cares for and no one wants to care for.
The season that people only participate in because some huge fat ass supposedly shimmies down your chimney and leaves you presents.
Or you receieve presents from your loved ones.
I ask you this. Would Christmas be as meaningful a Holiday to people today if they didn't get something with it?
I don't think so ^.^
In the end, I think it its all a matter of just saying "Happy Holidays" because then you won't get the FCC on your back. :/


Sam T, We celebrate his birth on Dec 25th because Christianity is a big mix of Jewish traditions, roman traditions, and pagan traditions. For example when the Romans conquered the Greeks Zeus became Jupiter and many of the stories that involved Zeus suddenly became Jupiter stories. Well when Christianity spread like wildfire across Europe Jupiter became God the father. In fact many of the early Saints have stories that directly parallel the Greek and Roman gods (Ever wonder why it’s called the Roman Catholic Church?) It was a way that people could still worship many gods and continue their beliefs w/o getting punished by the church. That’s also why the whole last half of the bible is filled with letters to the early members of the church admonishing them to not invent their own religion and follow what Christ taught. Well they didn’t so today Christianity is a BIG mess in where more than half the “traditions” come from pagan roots, like Christmas. So John Gibson is either a moron, or he’s just a traditional Christian that is holding on to traditions that really don’t have any real correlation to real Christianity.


Can we just celebrate the bloody holiday not listening to Fox.


Esn, I don't give a shit where some word comes from — honestly, it doesn't fucking matter. You could use some other world like celebration and still be practicing the same thing in essentials.


My parents are Christians, but do not view Christmas as a sacred holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus. In fact, my Mom spells Christmas as Xmas. They believe the bible A) never gives a specific time or day as to when he was born and B) doesn’t ask you to celebrate it. Even thought I’m not the religious type, I have to agree with them. Christmas is just a man made holiday with absolutely no meaning today, except to the stores and businesses. For John Gibson to call it sacred is laughable. But then again, religion itself is laughable (to me, at least).

To each his own, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of you. Happy Holidays! :D


I want to personally ask you how you can believe in a religion that based on the absurd belief in the Trinity.

Christ, according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the Holy Ghost third. Each of these persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. So it is declared that the Father is God, and the Son and the Holy Ghost is God, and these three Gods make one God. According to the imaginary multiplication table, once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar: if we add two to one we have but one. Each one equal to himself and to the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly absurd than the dogma of the Trinity. Why do you set your salvation based on something so doubtful? Again, 1+1+1=3 not 1 and again salvation is not based on your wishful thinking. I also want ask you why you can't just stop at the statement God is one in essence?why do you have to go beyond this? : If you go to any dictionary, and look up the word monotheism you will never find the definition the belief in one God but three in person? I mean come on. When will you finally understand this? That in itself is a contradictory statement no matter how much you try to play around with logic.


The trinity is pretty pathetic. I mean the christian bible disregards that bit a lot. So it seems to me that the holiday is designed to sell. The good thing about christmas thoug is we get off from school, a lot of families come together to celebrate (Even if it is meaniingless), and it does help the economy.


And seniors get trampled while trying to get the best deals on crap.


ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE CHRISTMAS TREES ARE FORBIDDEN:

I’ve heard people say that Jeremiah 10:3-5 is a reference to the Christmas tree:

For the customs of the peoples are worthless; they cut a tree out of the forest, and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. They adorn it with silver and gold; they fasten it with hammer and nails so it will not totter. Like a scarecrow in a melon patch, their idols cannot speak; they must be carried because they cannot walk. Do not fear them; they can do no harm nor can they do any good."


haha. I've heard people try to argue that, too. It's pretty laughable considering the context. I don't think anyone worships a christmas tree.



-daniel


Amro,
regarding the trinity:
My son sees me as a father, my wife sees me as a husband and my mother sees me as a son.
In essence, I am 3 different people but I am 1. Am I beginning to make sense to you?
This is the nature of the trinity. According to christianity, God, although unchanging, has taken 3 seperate and distinct roles in history. They are the roles of The Old Covenant, Jesus, and The New Covenant as evidenced by the Holy Spirit.
3 different roles; but 1 God.

Just trying to explain why my views aren't "ludicrous".

peace be with you,
daniel


Amro, the point of the Christian faith is to put aside all logic and simply believe.


Larry,
I'm curious as to how my view is illogical. That's something people rarely call me.

thanks for your input,
daniel


He has a point, Daniel.
Maybe not about illogicalness, but the point of any faith is not to know anything.
It is to believe.
Religions are so vast and different because not a single one has a real proof of it.
The only proof is the proof you have in your heart.
And weather that'll do you any good is questionable.
However, me, being a powerful believer in Wicca, believe in a God and Goddess.
But because my expalanation of my theroy on them that they are not real but exsist is very complex and may take a while, I will say that I am not bashing faith and belief. It's good, sometimes, to have faith.
But sometimes, cold, hard scientific facts are best.


Kyora,
I agree with you up to a point. Without a mind, we could not have faith. That mind also allows us to have logic. It would be illogical for me to have faith that a chair could give birth to a piccolo. Because I have a mind to discern the nature and characteristics of chairs and piccolos. The same, in part, can be said of God.
Therefore, faith and logic must walk hand in hand just as the masculine and feminine must co-exist within and cooperate in the psyche. (To use an example from your religion.)
Faith is beyond the realm of scientific proof, however it would be false to say that it is beyond the realm of logic.

may the fates be kind to you,
daniel


daniel, I never implied that that our faith was illogical. I was telling Amro that the entire religion is leaving behind trying to comprehend every single thing and simply believe.


Larry,
OH! I gotcha. I read it the wrong way. My mistake.

take care,
daniel


...How dare you! The phrase 'happy holidays' has made the Xbox 360 friggin expensive!


"Esn, I don't give a shit where some word comes from — honestly, it doesn't fucking matter."

Then I guess you're not one of those people who care whether it's called "Christmas" or "holiday". In that case, my comment wasn't meant for you in the first place - it was meant for those who DO care about what something is called.


Daniel, I give you five points for doing your research :D


Argh. Everytime I go psycho-bitch on somebody here there comment was never intended to be answered by a person like me or was for somebody else :/


Sam needs a new post for his blog!


"Argh. Everytime I go psycho-bitch on somebody here there comment was never intended to be answered by a person like me or was for somebody else :/"

Well who did you THINK it was meant for? From what you said back there you're on MY side, so why would I argue with you? :P


what i meant daniel was that christmass tree is a form of idolatry according to the bible, eventhough people aren't directly worshiping it. Christmas trees by the way had to do more with druid practices that were integrated into Christianity as it became dominant in Europe.


ha ha ha ha ha, I wonder wen fox is actually going to report on something that is actually news, who gives a rats ass about stores using Merry chirstmas to get customers in, i know i don't.

LOL


Bob it's the morals that matter in this case. But you're partially right that it doesn't mater that much in this regard. In other regards this matters a lot because it's a shameles ploy to steal credibility from the democrats and get Republicans elected. This plays bad for anyine who plans to live for ten ,ore years.


Anonymous,
I hardly believe cutting a tree out of the forest, shaping it with a chisel and then putting some metal on it could be considered inherently wrong. Otherwise it would be a crime to be a cabinet maker.
My point was that since people don't treat christmas trees like idols (by worshipping them), and they treat them just as decoration to remind them of the holidays and the days of their youth, I don't think God has a problem with it (from a biblical standpoint). I'm pretty certain that motives are a factor in morality.
Basically, in the minds of modern americans a christmas tree = family photo album/knicknack.

take care,
daniel


Yes. How dare we suggest that there might be other, equally valid religions with winter holidays?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah.


What annoys me is that the ACLU won't even defend itself! Pathetic.


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"Yes. How dare we suggest that there might be other, equally valid religions with winter holidays?"

The sole purpose of Christmas is the show that Christians have the superior religion. :D

Seriously, why did the ACLU go after "Merry Christmas," and public nativity scenes? I wouldn't consider myself a Christian, but I don't see the logic in attacking those two innocuous things.

"keep our economy afloat."

You desultory chimp. GDP growth has increased and unemployment is the lowest it has ever been since Clinton.

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2008...oing- quite.html

This fall, the dumbocruds will lose miserably. On the surface, they look like they are merrily getting along, but deep down they hate each other.
It's the Republicans who have the camaraderie, not the dems.

And who said that they Republicans were the ones who were racists/misogynists?
The democrats are not pushing president. They are pushing a blackman. (And at one time, they were pushing a women.) Who's the racists?

I don't believe on pushing a candidate based on their Ethnicity, or Race, or Religion. I believe that they should be based on the content of their character. I tried to stomach an Obama speech, but it was nothing more than a happy rainbow fartfest.

I couldn't stand it. At least Mc Cain made some lucid statements about what he would do if he became president.

-kharne




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