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Great cartoon. Glad I could help out with it. 
Nice job Kevin. Looks like Sam's work.
its good, the image at the end where it says "behead those who say islam is violent" is the best
Thanks Larry.
Yeah, great job Sam, Kevin, and the other guy... and uh... oh yeah, David. The cartoon was great.
HAHAHA!!!
He did the work???
I am Impressed.
GREAT JOB ! ! !
That was pretty good. I thought that Taco-Man's last comment took the edge off the joke a bit, though.
By the way, it's not just the Danish embassies that are burning.
In Syria, for example, the Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Swiss and Chilean embassies are all burned to the ground.
Chile, Sweden and Switzerland were in the same building as the Danish one and burned to the ground along with it. :P
burning flags...did you guys know that they burned Dutch flags...they believed they where french....I don't know what is a greater insult...that they burned our flag or that they thought it was a french flag
And maybe they find it insulting that we "draw" there profets, we find it insulting that they make drawings of jews like the nazis did.
and what about their politics, thats insulting to mankind
I believe its time that we teached them a lesson
We go there, steal all their oil, shoot it into space and start driving on water
And I don't know a western country where the pictures wheren't shown.
I think that without freedom of speach, democarcy isn't possible.
Somehow i find it hard to find sympathy for muslims like this. I feel sympathy to any muslim who is not a terrorist and oes not believe in terror. It is really a shame though. If there is any muslim posting on this site who doesn't feel were all going to hell please comment it would shed some light on te moral issues.
publishing the cartoons was... how should i say... idiotic. but, making some stupid cartoon with muhammed( yea, i spelled that wrong) is no excuse for threatening christians/westerners and torching embassies.
me, they aren't being shown in the us.
I love this post.
http://www.haloscan.com/comments...99379646446148/
Torching Danish embassies is a cool new trend in Middle East I guess.
1. — Damascus, Syria
2. — Beirut, Lebanon
3. — Tehran, Iran (not really burned)
And I don't know a western country where the pictures wheren't shown.
They aren't being shown in Canada either. The general feeling seems to be that just because you can publish something doesn't mean you should.
Some Muslims store-owners in Toronto have actually started boycotting Danish goods. If I lived in the area of one of those stores, I would boycott the store.
Blaming the Danes for the actions of a private newspaper is idiotic.
By the way, you can all see the full collection of cartoons over here:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Gall...Mo_Cartoons.jpg
Most of them are pretty innocuous - the one with the turban-bomb that SamT showed is pretty much the worst.
Holy hell .Theres more than I thought.
What bothers me is that these cartoons were commissioned by the newspaper with the intent to provoke Muslims:
http://blog.newspaperindex.com/2...-posten-racism/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Jyl...hammad_cartoons
In the US, it would be like whites saying "nigger" in print, or a Christian company using the swastika as its logo.
"I don't know what is a greater insult...that they burned our flag or that they thought it was a french flag."
-Me
lol!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/
20060...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
Several have died over the funny papers. This is getting a bit ah, shall we say, fucking ridiculous.
Sam, you better watch your back... The Republican party may follow the trend...
When ebolakart comes out whenver that will be and you can play against each other online we should have a tournament.
that was random.
Holy crap! Huge story, everyone:
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/...nager/
Rove2.htm
Time for a new update from SamT, methinks.
Man... Rove sucks.
Back to the original topic...
Iran has reacted to Denmark’s publishing of the cartoons in turn. The largest state newspaper Hamshahiri which holds conservative views has announced that it will hold a competition to find the most amusing cartoon based on the theme of the Holocaust.
http://english.pravda.ru/world/a...535-holocaust-
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Oh, wonderfull... 
Good. More controversy. The israels will start rioting too. Maybe the two groups will get so into these cartoons, they'll blow each other up. "How dare you make a cartoon like that! Ha! We'll make a cartoon as well! See how you like it!"
Someone needs a time out.
If we're lucky, this story will override the whole story of Rove doing what I consider a form of bribery to Republican senators. Yay! Another win for the Bush Administration, and they might not have to do anything this time!
I just don't see the point.
Here we have freedom of speach...its one of the basics for a democracy.
In the Netherlands we have cartoons like that about our goverment, our queen, other politicians, etc.
We all know that papers in the middle east have very anti-jew/west cartoons.
It is just a trick of Iran, well, fuck them.
Iran is not a democracy, torturs and murders their own citizens.
It has a very dangerous attitude about nuclear power, etc etc.
AND WE HAVE OUR OWN LAWS AND DON'T HAVE TO LIFE TO THEIRS!
They are half-dictator nations/dictatornations who are telling us what to do?
They must be crazy.
It comes down to the people. The people of Iran are allah brain washed blabbering morons if they really feel a cartoon is a good justification to burn shit.
And here in America, we have country full of "adult-infants." Afraid of terrorism so badly yet it hasn't affected any of there lives except those who had ties to the people that died in 2001. That was only 3,000 people, and most of there ties are in New York, which is very democratic and anti-bush. They're petrified, they'll let Bush do what he wants as long as his comforting southern accent claims he's protecting us. And religion is for the week as well.
Not all religious people, but some people are really to afraid of accepting the fact that we really don't know the "answer to it all." They'll continue to dish out money to there church as long as they keep brainwashing them into feeling comfortable about the outcome of things. If you really need to believe an old man upstairs has a plan for it all and anything bad or good that happens is just part of the mighty plan so sit back and relax, then I say put the training wheels back on your bike, go into a cradle and suck your christian thumb and don't try to spread your shit everywhere else, we have enough dumbasses.
"They are half-dictator nations/dictatornations who are telling us what to do?
They must be crazy."
Or they must have been insulted in a way that can not be forgiven.
I'm not promoting violence, and I think protesting the Danish government is wrong because it wasn't them who actually put out the cartoon. But I think that the conservative newspaper that did first show the cartoon acted cruel and quite frankly stupid. It's like they all sat around in a board meeting and said "Hmm... Let's insult a reliegon, and not only commit a sin in there eyes but do it so that they are deeply insulted. And while we're at it, lets pick the most volatile reliegon while we're at it." Its stupid, and they shouldn't have done it.
"me", "zatheist" -- you guys are peas from the same pod.
Nothing like countering the intolerance of others by being intolerant of other's views, eh fellas?
Freedom of speech comes with the responsibility of respect and knowledge. All speech is free; but, there ARE prices to pay for ignorance and bigotry.
You have every right to taunt the lioness while she is nursing her cubs. The lioness has every right to devour you for it.
Exactly, daniel
Thank you
YAYYYY!
But does the lioness doesn't have the right to devour him. Becuase then the guy doesn't really have the right to insult the lioness becuase the lioness will kill him. That is from the persons point of view. Now from the lioness' point of view. If the lioness devours the man than the family of the devoured man will hunt the lioness down and kill her. So the lioness can't do that under threat of death plus then the cub will die which is what the lioness is protecting in the first place. In this case, Daniel, You're just rephrasing what was the problem in the first place so it doesn't really help at all.
"Nothing like countering the intolerance of others by being intolerant of other's views, eh fellas?"
Yes, I'm sorry, I am intollerant of people this absorbed in fairy tales that they'll violently protest, and anyone in there right mind should be. I'm not intollerant to the point where I'm going to burn an embassy over it, if you're trying to call me a hypocrit. I'm expressing my views, it's called freedom of speech, and I'm doing it in a peaceful manner. Had they done this instead and nine people didn't die over the cartoons, I wouldn't be so critical.
"You have every right to taunt the lioness while she is nursing her cubs. The lioness has every right to devour you for it."
So what you're saying is that the people of this religion can be considered like lions, if you taunt them they'll kill you, even though we were never any threat, and they have every right to kill you. Clever sounding analogy, it's too bad it's used really badly in this situation if you actually think of the comparison. "It degrades us people of Islam! We will burn an embasy for it!"
And they have every right to kill me now as I have just made fun of them, right? I mean they are just like lions nursing their babies, as you say.
It comes down to the people. The people of Iran are allah brain washed blabbering morons if they really feel a cartoon is a good justification to burn shit.
I suppose you don't see the irony with what you just said.
Well, I'll leave it to you to figure it out. If you really need help I can tell you myself, but let's not resort to drastic measures here...
In other news, Taco-man's wish has come true and the protestors are now blaming America:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/proph...zkxBHNlYwN0bQ--
"The United States is the leader of Europe and the leading infidel in the world"
Seriously, this could be a Monty Python sketch.
Do you goet your news from cnbc? like that show on their network Kudlow and Company
Sam?
I think someone in Europe should organize a counter-protest against Muslims for some vague religious rule that THEY don't follow. They don't seem to get the point.
Why does it matter if people who are NOT Muslims do something that is sacrilegious according to the Koran?
This is a free speech issue, regardless of how offensive the cartoons are. Those Muslims are overreacting.
"The U.S. base was targeted because the United States "is the leader of Europe and the leading infidel in the world," said Sher Mohammed, a 40-year-old farmer who suffered a gunshot wound while taking part in the demonstration in the city of Qalat."
Maybe life is one long Monty Python scetch. Sure does explain a lot.
By the way, more fun news from Bush:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1123...wsweek/from/
RSS
For the record, I think both Jyllands-Posten and the protestors are way out of line.
Also, I think the true root of the problem is the tension and racism surrounding impoverished, predominantly Muslim communities in Europe. This issue is as big as racism against poor blacks in the US, and recently exploded with the French riots.
http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/...europe_muslims/
This time, it simply spilled over into Denmark, with a conservative newspaper finding a new way to irritate the oppressed.
One more thing -
Despite the insult to Islam, I think the protestors should follow the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi.
I don't think that Iran has any rights at all of saying they are against this religion.
And who says that the people that draw those cartoons really wanted to hurt the islam.
I respect all religions, as long as they respect others.
Iran and many islamic nations don't respect jewism.
But than again Israël is not very close with human rights.
Don't you guys see that this isn't about cartoons but purely about power.
Only the countries with problems protest against the cartoons.
And who's fould is it really?
Iran?
Syria?
The people who put them into power?(US)
The Koran?(who was very liberal for its time)
Or is it everybody's fold, aren't we all responsible for the current situation?
I think the EU(not the USA) should punish(financially) the nations who let there people protest in such hard ways.
And don't forget without Hindoeism there wouldn't be a Gandhi.
http://
www.islamdenouncesterrori...leeast.html#dip
Its not all accurate but if gives a better/different view at the muslim world.
"me", "zatheist" - What you seem to not understand is that for these people, God is real and worth dying for. Just like for the lioness, her cubs are worth dying for.
Just because you don't believe that God is real doesn't mean that:
1) you are correct
2) that everyone should agree with you
3) That people who disagree are "stupider" or "less deserving of respect and dignity" than you are.
To say, "only tolerant people should have rights" is antithetical to freedom of speech.
You ARE free to do whatever you want. However there are certain actions that are wise and certain others that are unwise. It seems to me these cartoons were "the straw that broke the camel's back".
We all know how easy it is to rally around a symbol. These cartoons were taken as a symbol of the seeming disrespect that "the west" has for Islam. This symbol embodied all the mounting pain that our brothers in the middle east are feeling.
If you think those riots were just about cartoons, you're sorely mistaken.
I suppose that one has to decide where free speech ends and incitement to murder begins. Like the Muslims protesting in England with signs like "behead those who insult Islam." One must wonder why, oh WHY, we democratic countries tolerate this beheivor. If they were...oh, to pull a random example out of thin air...er...Okay, I got one:
Three hundred Christians turn up outside the gates of the White House, holding up signs that call out "hang those who deny Christ."
Across the other side of the gate, three hundred Muslims are holding up signs saying "kill those who depict the Prophet."
...Which group is more likely to be arrested? That question is more of an offshot that this issue has highlighted, but you have to wonder...
lets just all agree that there are no right answers and if everyone was just nice and respectful of one another this never would have happened.
GO GANDHI!!!
and me,
"Or is it everybody's fold, aren't we all responsible for the current situation?"
no. i have nothing to do with the current situation.
FYI I edited the wikipedia article on ebolaworld but I bet I left some stuff out. Why don't you go there and edit it some.
Forgot the URL. They deleted some stuff that I wrote but whatever.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Ebo...aworld#Cartoons
Just because you do believe that God is real doesn't mean that:
1) YOU are correct
2) That everyone should agree with you
3) That people who disagree are "stupider" or "less deserving of respect and dignity" than you are.
I would like all Christians to open there eyes to that.
And the fact that religion is the cause of all this and the fact that these people truley do believe in this god and are actually willing to do these things over it makes me feel that these people are either
a) uniformed and unawakened to the infinite possibilities, and it's not there fault it was just the way they were raised
b) informed of possibilities by themselves or others but so brainwashed into believening their flavor of god that in there heart of hearts all this is totally real, rendering them stubborn and possiblity even, oh lord how dare i say it, simply stupid(i thought i'd through that in just to piss you off)
"What you seem to not understand is that for these people, God is real and worth dying for."
No, that is exactly what I do realise and exactly why I say under the horrible influence of the drug called relgion should be halted. Religion is a placebo drug.
"If you think those riots were just about cartoons, you're sorely mistaken."
We all know that they weren't just about cartoons and they did symbolise disrespect toward their relgion. If the people that made these cartoons knew that it was this disrespectful to make these, shame on them for provoking this, but I believe it was still totally legit. If they didn't know, than shame on the muslims for not taking into consideration they didn't know this. Of course they don't real seem to be all that rational of people, disrespect intended 
.
Oh and one more comment about your list, about the first one.
"Just because you do believe that God is real doesn't mean that:
1) you are correct"
I believe I am incorrect in anything anyone could believe in other than actual moral values like a belief in a brotherhood of mankind, because we as humans are much to stupid and simply uniformed of the true "answer to it all" and it sickens me that we think that we all do. I believe we have to stay fluid in our beliefs of existance, and that religion has long been disproved by todays common sense.
Man Zathiest. Calm down.
"And the fact that religion is the cause of all this and the fact that these people truley do believe in this god and are actually willing to do these things over it makes me feel that these people are either."
z the fact is that religon is not necessarily the cause of all this. religon is simply a convenient allibi that people use as an excuse for violence. if this didn't happen, they would just get angry something else. people are always twisting and interpreting religon to fit their own set of ideals.
what muslims are really upset about is the sheer disrespect for their traditions and cultures being shown to them by the western world.
religon is simply a convenient allibi that people use as an excuse for violence.
Exactly. Whether they did it because they truley believed or as you say just want to be violent, either way religion is an alibi and no one can deny them of it unless we all together decide to change things.
if this didn't happen, they would just get angry something else.
But it did happen because of this, and there is no way prove that without this religion they'd be protesting and burning right now. It seems to be the root.
You see anyone can claim they truley believe something, and causing violence because someone offended it is ridiculous. Religion is no excuse. The world should all follow a simple set of guidelines and worship there own explanation for our existance in a peaceful manner. The thing is, people can claim anything about their religion, including that they must set gasoline fire to young hispanic homes every tuesday and thursday during a full moon, and claim they're not religiously free if someone trys to stop them. It's ridiculous.
i'm not say ing they want to be violent. i'm saying that many things could have caused this reaction, and no people can tolerate repeated insults indefinatley without getting pissed.
"Religion is no excuse. The world should all follow a simple set of guidelines and worship there own explanation for our existance in a peaceful manner."
religon is an excuse. take the crusades for example. the papacy and many countries banded together in the name of god to retake the holy land from the "heathens". the thing is, catholiscism is a pacifist religon. jesus said that we should treat our enemys with compassson. the crusaders brutally slaughtered them. people, governments etc. use their own interp of their religon to benefit themselves.
another example, for hundreds of years the protestant english oppressed catholic ireland. although the conflict was supposedly between the catholic and protestant populations, the reality was that most all irish were catholic and most english were english were protestant. it was merely a convenient label that people could use to disguise the true root of the conflict. it was not a battle between religons but of two populations with different cultures and traditions.
So sure in these principles that they would be wiling to lose everyone a on shot. The human race wasn't built on ritual suicide. It goes against human nature to kill one self. If it was we never would have survived so long. Have any of you ever read the once and future king by T. H. White? If you have then think about the T. Natrix chapter.The individual isn't important but the group is, this is the focus of the chapter. This follows the policies of Islam to some extent. If some of the religion commits this suicide than fine we lose some unimportant individuals. This sows the world what Islam is. The group uffers because of the actions of a few. (To be fair T. H. White was a hippy and didn't intend for this chapter to pertain to suicide bombings like in muslim tradition some of them)
And who says that the people that draw those cartoons really wanted to hurt the islam.
The UN is investigating the newspaper for racism, so harm may have been intended.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/546
This just in: Jyllands-Posten, the champion of free speech, declined to publish Jesus cartoons:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/
site...1703500,00.html
Free speech is an essential right, but I feel that it also comes with a responsibility. Likewise, some Muslims have shirked the responsibility to respect human life in the protests.
GO GANDHI!!!
and me,
"Or is it everybody's fold, aren't we all responsible for the current situation?"
no. i have nothing to do with the current situation.
Evil Pie | 02.09.06 - 3:55 pm | #
I ment the countries on this world(and you life in the USA and so you are responsible for your nation)
If you think those riots were just about cartoons, you're sorely mistaken.
daniel | Homepage | 02.09.06 - 12:34 pm | #
Daniel to who did you say that?
Another thing.
Mohammed is just as important for Islam than freedom of speech for democracy.
And who says that the people that draw those cartoons really wanted to hurt the islam.
The UN is investigating the newspaper for racism, so harm may have been intended.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/546
This just in: Jyllands-Posten, the champion of free speech, declined to publish Jesus cartoons:
http://media.guardian.co.uk/ site...1703500,00.html
Free speech is an essential right, but I feel that it also comes with a responsibility. Likewise, some Muslims have shirked the responsibility to respect human life in the protests.
teh_guy | 02.10.06 - 4:32 am | #
Yes Jyllands-Posten is a right-winged newspaper, it is also the most popular newspaper in Denmark.
Further the UN wants to put an end to this "crisis" they don't want to know the trugh.
If the UN punishes Jyllands-Posten for rascism, than I don't believe in the UN anymore.
And lets talk about freedom of speech in the US.
People with money and power control the media, the politics and so on.
And what was it with a dictatorship?
The elite versus the mass?
me, i am 14 years old. i'm not reponsible for my nation or what it does. thats up to those fascist pigs in our government. they don't give a shit what i do or think.
that was me.
also, people with money and power control the media and politics in all countries. this isn't unique to the us.
Hirsi Ali zei dat moslims niet van mensen uit andere culturen kunnen verlangen dat zij zich houden aan de wetten van de islam, die het maken van afbeeldingen van Mohammed verbieden. ,,Dat is geen verzoek tot respect maar een verzoek tot onderwerping'' zei ze. Ze benadrukte dat de islamitische profeet goede dingen heeft gezegd en gedaan, maar dat hij ook respectloos en ongevoelig was jegens hen die het met hem oneens waren.
Evil Pie your Beglium right??
Then you can read this.
And people with money in power dominated the media, but in the US rich people bought the media and did not got rich with it.
Futher most media in the Netherlands is, altho owned by rich people, lett free in their programming.
And they are divided, RTL-group, SBS(SBS6, Veronica en Net 5), Talpa(but nobody watches haha) and offcourse public media)a whole bunch of stations who all have different ideas).
Our news is neutral, but maybe a little left(except SBS6 nieuws).
Then we have our newspapers, mostly left(but not De Telegraaf)
Our radio stations(all mayor are neutral or left)
And one owner can't have 2 radio stations.
me, i am 14 years old. i'm not reponsible for my nation or what it does. thats up to those fascist pigs in our government. they don't give a shit what i do or think.
Anonymous | 02.10.06 - 11:50 am | #
Well you can't vote, but still...
mmmh...
okay
All people, we can vote and life in a democracy, are responsible for their country's actions. Except when they have activly demonstrated or such.
Z - you believe you are informed of and awakened to the infinite possibilities in the universe?
Remember, a wise man knows that he knows nothing. The more you believe you are enlightened, the less likely you are to be so.
(and, of course, I find myself guilty of thinking I know things, as well.)
thats crazy
Me's post in Dutch, poorly translated by Babelfish:
Hirsi Ali said that Moslems cannot desire that of people from other cultures they stick to the laws of Islam, which prohibit making images of Mohammed. , that is no request to respect but a request to subjection '' said them. They emphasised that the Islamic prophet good solicit has said and has done, but that he also respectloos and insensitive was towards them that it with him in disagreement were.
And lets talk about freedom of speech in the US. People with money and power control the media.
Freedom of speech in the US never existed. The content of the earliest newspapers were controlled by rich owners. It wasn't too bad, though, until megacorp media (Fox, CNN, MSNBC), which each control an enormous amount of TV, internet, paper, and magazine news/propaganda. After 9/11, free speech all but died, with the only remnants existing on the internet (for now).
If the UN punishes Jyllands-Posten for rascism, than I don't believe in the UN anymore.
The investigation is probably a false gesture to show sympathy toward Muslim nations.
My last thought on freedom of speech:
Jyllands-Posten had every right to publish whatever they wanted. However, the protestors have every right to be pissed off at somebody giving them the gravest of insults.
"And lets talk about freedom of speech in the US. People with money and power control the media."
What about PBS? The News Hour with Jim Lehrer?
"Evil Pie your Beglium right??
Then you can read this."
????? was that a joke, or am i missing something here?
What about PBS? The News Hour with Jim Lehrer?
Ah crap, I forgot to mention PBS! My personal favorite is NOW, formerly with Bill Moyer.
http://www.pbs.org/now/
Since viewers are the #1 source of funding, PBS is more free to attack the gov't:
http://www.current.org/pbs/
pbs04...07funding.shtml
But that's changing - the CPB ombudsman found a slant to the right in terms of think-tank interviews:
http://www.npr.org/templates/
sto...storyId=5053335
"Ah crap, I forgot to mention PBS! My personal favorite is NOW, formerly with Bill Moyer."
Really? I like David Branccacio.
I just happened to catch NOW this evening with David Branccacio, and you're right - he's pretty good. Especially considering the big shoes he had to fill.
"Evil Pie your Beglium right??
Then you can read this."
????? was that a joke, or am i missing something here?
Evil Pie | 02.10.06 - 3:59 pm | #
Someone was Belgium...
Someone was from Belgium
i think you're thinking of captain caveman. he vanished from the blog a while ago.
or he took another name...
...?
me, are you insinuating something sinister?
me, do you ever have to look at a trans-language dictionary to understand some of the words we say?
You lied you said that in 2006 that there would be an update every other weak liar
Yeah, liar! I know you can afford to make cartoons that pull in very little money every single day! Your just lazy!
yea, what he said!
MOHAMMED SAID:
"REPEL EVIL WITH GOOD AND AN AVOWED ENEMY WILL BECOME A DEVOTED FRIEND"
"THE INK OF A SCHOLAR IS MORE SACRED THAN THE BLOOD OF A MARTYR (PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD QOUTE ACTUALLY CAME FROM HIM)!"
roight......
That's right, bitches! Bow before my Bic!
your bic.... right.....
my bic is bigger than your bic.
ewww.....
I am Impressed.
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