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Hum. Yeah, its funny how tha tworks isn't it? The uber-leftist Simpsons and Family Guy (both by in large consensus deemed becoming progressively more mediocre with each new episode btw) are on the conservative Fox Network; whereas the more right-wing South Park is on the liberal Comedy Central.
Some would call a move like this dishonest, biting the hand that feeds, etc. I call it a stale joke by a show thats been on the air about 15 years too long, with gradually diminishing viewership curves and disapppointed fans, who can get by saying pretty much anything.
Taco King |
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03.07.07 - 10:46 pm | #
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Wow. A cartoon character is smarter than you.
Sam T |
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03.07.07 - 10:53 pm | #
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South Park more right wing than The Simpsons?? In a way they are more realistic, because they try to understand stupid people, unlike The Simpsons who are less political. Mokking Fox News is something The Simpsons have always done. Further, we in the Netherlands, watch The Box, in the evening they show shows of Comedy Central, and you can not say that they are right-winged. Chappelle is moslim, never thought he was by the way...
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03.08.07 - 8:30 am | #
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last post was me
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03.08.07 - 8:34 am | #
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The South Park creators are libertarians. I really enjoy there cartoon because it always looks at the issues from a fresh perspective.
Sam T |
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03.08.07 - 9:29 am | #
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Windows Vista is a little bit better than XP (I know this is not the current discussion)
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03.09.07 - 7:31 am | #
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South Park tries to understand people, and gives them the right to have an opinion. Offcourse they are left, in a country as stupid as America everyone with just a little braincapasity is left. Although South Park tells a story, their is another story they tell, they could hide that a little better if you ask me.
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03.09.07 - 7:34 am | #
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I don’t know. It's their show and they are can do whatever they want. Don't like it? Don't watch it. (General statement, not directed at you personally). I love South Park, as it always has a fresh, honest take on current issues.
However, I doubt they would like being referred to as Liberals or Conservatives, as libertarians are neither.
You can read more here: http://www.lp.org/article_85.shtml
Sam T |
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03.09.07 - 9:47 am | #
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the comments responding to mine on this thread are absolutely absurd; of course South Park is libertarian, I never even remotely alluded to anything on the contrary. Note that I said they were "right-wing", libertarians are also situated on the side of the spectrum. I'm not a fan of the political spectrum (I wrote a 15 page paper on its inapplicability in the contemporary political environment ) but suggesting that South Park isn't right-wing either exhibits willful ignorance or stupidity. Theres even a book called South Park Conservatives, by in large their political episodes hrash hallmarks of liberalism such as global warming activism, anti-smoking legistlation, and anti-war activists.
And whoever it was that said "anyone with even the smallest brain capacity is a liberal" is an IDIOT. Your stupidity is staggering, how about you take a look at Dr. George Will, Dr. Serge Trifkovic, Dr. Francis Fukuyama, Christopher Hitchens, Charles Krauthammer, or Dinesh D'Souza before you make such outlandish allegations? Maybe try reading something other than MoveOn.org eh my silly little neo-Marxist?
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03.09.07 - 11:36 am | #
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South Park has a high tolerance level, for example the way they deal with gay people. They show how hypocrite people can be. I like the show, never thought it was right-winged or liberal (in the Netherlands someone who is "liberaal" upholds freedom in the economic way, so if you call someone libertarian we call him liberaal, the VVD (a libertarian party) supports gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia, but wants a small government and not so about the enviroment, they tend to be nationalistic. For outsiders it sounds as the VVD is a left-party, but to us it is right-winged. My vote regurlary goes to the PDVV (literally: Party for the Animals or the SP (Socialistic Party) or Groenlinks (Greenleft), these paries or considered left in the Netherlands (together with the more mid-party PvdA (Labour-party)), then we have D66 which is Social-liberal (same as the VVD but more left-winged and progressive, although it is considered as a right-wing party).
So liberal to you is left, whether we see it is right-winged, our right is in some ways very left to you, but sometimes still upholds conservative-liberal ideas.
And Taco-king, everyone who wants to be treated equal, but doesn't want to give gay people the right to marry is stupid. The poor people in the USA a living like animals, without anyone taking responsibility, our government takes care of that. Insuranse agencies can not refuse someone here, even if he doesn't pas his fee on a regular basis. When you don't have a job and you are officially registered or for any other reason not able to work you get payed by the government. We see that as logical, you as a wast of money, we don't let people starve, we don't want that poor people never go on a holiday with their kids, and we don't want people constantly think about how to get enough money, so everyone who is against these thinks, is in my eyes, just a stupid selvish bastard
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03.09.07 - 11:54 am | #
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And I am not a communist, nor socialist. People should be independent, they should deside want kind of education to wish to follow, etc. But as a nation, you should take care of your minorities, you should take responsibility in the rest of the world and help others. When people don't want to work, but can we don't give them money, but when there is no work?? Or when he isn't able to work?? Or when her/his husband died and he/she must take care of their young children??
As an individual, you are not alone.
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03.09.07 - 12:01 pm | #
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Anti-smoke policies or sometimes too hard, left people here see that, but smoking is not only bad for the person that smokes but also for the people around that person, fucking up your own health okay, but who payes the insurance when they get cancer?, South park saw that the people that where anti-smoke where hypocrits (they were fat), so who payes the insurance when they get sick (same thing as smoking). They were also showing that campagnes of anti-smoking could work in the reverse. Nothing right winged about that.
Global warming isn't what many people say and think it is, just a maximum rise of 43centimeter of the sea, not much. We are between 2 ice-ages, nothing strange about that. We don't now much about enviroment, mokking that isn't right-winged.
Anti-war, war is sometimes needed to put and end to bad things, like Saddamn-it. But you went for oil and revenge, thats bad. Making to world better by talk is good, but doesn't always work, so again not right-winged.
South Park is left, even to Dutch standards.
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03.09.07 - 12:10 pm | #
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I will shut up now...
Please wait at least 30 seconds between posts (another -2 second(s)), okay...
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03.09.07 - 12:11 pm | #
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liberal = smarter.
Why do you think all the comedy shows ARE liberal? The types that write those programs are big thinkers and therefor more creative. When Conservatives try to write comedy we get the "Half-Hour News Hour". BWHAHAHA.
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03.09.07 - 1:57 pm | #
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Sam, that was the biggest load of bullshit I have ever heard in my life. If you think liberals demonstrate their exceptional intellectual prowess and superior socio-moral precepts through sub-par COMEDCY SHOWS, you're a moron. And aka, Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Dennis Miller are all comedic virtuosos; none of them are liberal. And if you even attempt to argue that they are, your credibility will henceforth be rendered moot to the empth degree.
Who are you Sam to attack conservatives as being intolerant morons? Because they support the Iraq war?
Newsflash bucko, some of the smartest ones DID NOT.
William Buckley, purported father of American conservatism, adamant in opposition to war.
Dr. Francis Fukuyama, Ph.D, renown political philosopher and economist, one of the founders of the neoconservative movement, likewise in opposition to war.
Dr. George Will, Ph.D, another behemoth of the American political interface, also opposed to Iraq war.
Dinesh D'Souza, senior Hoover Institute research fellow at Stanford, initial supporter of Iraq war but now suggests in retrospect it may not have been the best tactical maneuver.
Fareed Zakaria, highly respected right-wing Prince of Egypt, also opposed to the war.
What do all these men have in common? They're all archconservatives, they all pose highly sophisticated arguments against the invasion of Iraq (not the liberal bullshit Halliburton conspiracy theory, Cheney sold all of his stocks fucking morons, and the "oil" that we supposedly invaded for cost vastly more than the invasino was worth, what a ludicrous theory) and all are far, FAR more politically educated than anyone on this blog.
And you punks have the tenacity to call all these people idiots? Based on nothing but your own Kool-Aid?
They say people like Ann Coulter and Michael Savage give the American political discourse a bad name, but if you kids are the future of liberalism, the left will be just as deep in the gutter. For shame.
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03.09.07 - 3:17 pm | #
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"South Park is left, even to Dutch standards.
me | 03.09.07 - 2:10 pm | # "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Sou...k_Conservatives
Choke on it.
Taco King |
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03.09.07 - 3:22 pm | #
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Ohhhh...how I love the arguments in the comment section. Should I get into it? Nah...haha.
Bart speaks the truth. That was funny.
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03.09.07 - 3:34 pm | #
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It only became an argument when people started tossing baseless ad hominem pejorative remarks into the fray; don't step into the kitchen not expecting to get burned.
Its funny how younger liberals perceive conservatives as being redneck Christian hillbillies; certainly those guys exist as well, but it makes the intellectual majority of conservatism annoyed. The fact of the matter is these wicked idiot conservatives leftist kids are so quick to ridicule are WAY smarter than they could ever hope to be; to be fair I once maintained the this narrow perspective till I woke up, I'm just playing my part in dispelling these notions before they dangerously fester.
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Anyway, I'll be out for a couple hours kiddies, going to go see 300 with some friends. I'll be back later to swat down any ill-composed rebukes you may have sputtered out. :P
Taco King |
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03.09.07 - 4:02 pm | #
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TacoKing, I’ve tried debating with you on previous topics, but have found it useless as you always avoid discussing anything that may discredit your thoughts, and routinely resort to name calling and labeling. I actually enjoy debating with people who have vastly different viewpoints (ask DanielML), but I’ll have no more of your hostile style of discussion. Your insults of me and my fans aren’t welcomed on my website.
I’ll give you the last word…
…Oh I’m sorry, were out of time.
Good bye.
Sam T |
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03.09.07 - 4:37 pm | #
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Tonight on EbolaWorldNews: Cartoon characters, super-serious political metaphors for a sin-cursed world.
We report, bloopity blort.
Matt |
03.09.07 - 4:53 pm | #
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haha heres something to improve the site. Block annoying users like tacoking
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03.09.07 - 8:09 pm | #
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liberal = smarter.
Why do you think all the comedy shows ARE liberal? The types that write those programs are big thinkers and therefor more creative. When Conservatives try to write comedy we get the "Half-Hour News Hour". BWHAHAHA.
Sam T | Homepage | 03.09.07 - 3:57 pm | #
I think people put their feelings in comedy. And the make fun of the things they disagree with. South Park shows how hypocritical people can be. The creators of South Park aren't conservatives but people who understand the world, who now the facts. And in any nation, people laugh most about the things that their government does. Your counrty is very conservative, so their comedians are mostly left?? Strange, that one of the most tolerated area for gay people is television, probably after fashion.
Matt Stone a registered republican??, well I've seen Bowling for Columbine, and he doesn't look like a republican to me. They like to provoke thats for sure. I doubt if Matt Stone voted on the stupidparty?
Do you guys watch "Top Gear"??
There is an episode where they visit the USA and drive trew the south, funny, very funny.
South Park, is not right-winged, impossible.
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03.10.07 - 10:15 am | #
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Among outside political watchers, some consider Libertarians to be conservative (primarily because of their support of the right to bear arms and because of their views on taxes and states' rights); while others consider them liberal because of their advocacy of a non-interventionist foreign policy, the repeal of drug prohibition, and the elimination of laws that interfere with private consensual acts (such as prostitution and gambling). In reality, Libertarians are neither conservative nor liberal; rather, they represent a unique philosophy that is all their own. It is entirely possible that the need, or the feeling that the party must be either conventionally conservative or conventionally liberal - with no matter whether these thoughts come from outside or from within - is one reason for the weakness of the Libertarians in past elections.
Like right-winged on economic matters and left-winged in social matters? Just like the VVD here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVD
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03.10.07 - 10:21 am | #
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I got this from the South Park Wiki page:
"The term "South Park Republican" was coined after Parker and Stone claimed to be Republicans whilst receiving an award from the liberal advocacy group, People For the American Way (PFAW) in 2001. At the same time they declared TV producer Norman Lear, the founder of PFAW, to be one of their heroes, and Lear subsequently worked on South Park. More recently, a small movement has sprung up of youngish, South Park Conservatives who hold ideas from extreme ends of the political spectrum. In an interview in the March 13, 2006 Time magazine, the two stated that the only reason people might peg them for conservatives is that they are willing to mock anti-smoking laws and hippies. They also stated that the show could just as easily be pegged as a show supporting liberal ideologies. The interview ended with Parker quipping, "We still believe that all people are born bad and are made good by society, rather than the opposite", and Stone adding, "Actually, I think that's where we're conservative".
Parker and Stone are apparently critical of political correctness and satirize it by contrasting the child and adult's public personae. Whenever a sensitive issue is explored or a crisis occurs, it is expected that all the adults in South Park will overreact, whilst the children will act calm and collected about it. Examples of this can be seen in episodes such as Child Abduction Is Not Funny, Smug Alert! and Two Days Before the Day After Tomorrow."
Sam T |
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03.10.07 - 11:05 am | #
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I think one of the reasons South Park is still such a good show is because they tend to discuss current events; viewing them evenly from both sides. I definitely look up to the show, and hope my cartoons will one day be as well written. I’m aware that my political animations are one-sided, but that’s because I use them to express my opinions. I make every cartoon for myself; never trying to appease any certain group.
If it were 10 years ago, there would most certainly be a Bill Clinton Show. I used to buy into the “hate Clinton” mantra the media was spewing out back then, but I have since grown up a little and stopped listening to political opinions. I now read the facts and make up my own mind. Honestly, I don’t even label myself a liberal, as I don’t care for labels. I consider myself a free-thinking American.
Regardless of who wins in 2008, I'll still make fun of them as I feel all politicians are sell-outs and deserve to be lampooned.
Sam T |
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03.10.07 - 11:25 am | #
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It is not easy to catagorize someone. Making fun of the government is something comedians always do. So it the government is right-winged and you make fun of them, people see you as left. And when Obama (hopefully) beats the other contenders, they will make fun of them, meaning that people will more easliy see them as right-winged.
In the Netherlands we have, as I told you before, a bit of a problem with catagorizing people, wanting a small government and a high freedom level for individuals but at the same time strict secrety. We tend to divide the parties between conservative and progressive, but when progressive parties come to power, to change the rules and become conservative, then the conservatives become the progressive.
And right and left (based on how the representatives in frecsh parliament used the sit) is just as difficult. Take Adolf Hitler, ussely seen as far-right, but could just as wel be far-left. Same for the communist and the fascist, they both put the group higher than the individual.
Individualism turns out to be a bit of a problem, selvishnes doesn't make the world a better place.
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03.11.07 - 7:09 am | #
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You're right. If the Dems win in 2008 and I start making fun of them, I'll be labeled a Conservative. *Shudder*
Sam T |
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03.11.07 - 8:51 am | #
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No, you will always be an annoying left-liberal bastard :P.
No serious, you can easily critizes Obama (hopefully he beats that überannoying Clinton bitch) from the left side.
Did you allready see the link I posted in your the next post... What would Al Gore think of it??
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03.11.07 - 11:39 am | #
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