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Sorry I misread your comment. I do not advocate violence against anyone. Threatening the personal well-being of a presidential candidate is a good way to get the Secret Service on your case pronto!! and I think that's a good thing.
I'd be really surprised to see physical threats against Obama at a McCain campaign. I know of one woman who allegedly made a vague comment about a candidate and the Secret Service came to her home and questioned her!
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10.11.08 - 7:16 pm | #
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Do you think that someone yelling at a rally that Obama is a Muslim terrorist who should be shot is an extremist?
If you do, then I can show you plenty of videos that these are the kind of people now populating McCain rallies.
If you don't, then there isn't much point in me continuing this conversation.
Holly |
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10.11.08 - 7:00 pm | #
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Well, you're changing the argument a little bit. I haven't seen any extreme right-wing riots in the street. Do you have wind of any?
But yea, i think McCain HAS to vilify Obama, and I think it's about time! There is a lot about Obama that the main stream press has given him a pass on. We really barely know this guy, but I think mcCain has to let the American people know what a leftist this guy is. Obama's socialistic views are McCain's strong point. Why not play them up? I'm all for that.
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10.11.08 - 10:18 am | #
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Well, I am not a big McCain fan although I do respect his service to his country. What he did as a POW took guts and I admire that.
I love Palin.
The education card doesn't really impress me. My grandpa didn't even get out of elementary school because at that time he was needed to work on the farm. He was one of the smartest men I will ever know. Mr. Pete hated college, went to trade school instead. And I've known plenty of people who got the advanced degrees and have made a mess out of their personal lives. So that card doesn't play with me. Sorry.
But my main point is I absolutely dislike and distrust Obama and the what he stands for.
Elena |
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10.11.08 - 9:55 am | #
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I would love to know where YOU stand on immigration. Coming from Arizona- most people there greatly dislike McCain's immigration ideas (which is why he does not bring them up).He received massive rallies of WHITE voters when he returned home with the immigration bill that he and Ted came up with- basically legalizing all illegals within two years.
I can understand why you would vote for Palin (a woman who barely finished college) and McCain (a man who graduated at the bottom of his class because of his partying) instead of Obama (Magna Cum Lade from Harvard) and Biden (Cum Lade from law school as well), because of their stand on abortion. Why not leave it there?
At least I can respect you for that. Most of his other ideas are left of you- WAY left. Except "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb , Bomb Iran" I am hoping that is far right of you.
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10.11.08 - 8:04 am | #
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The majority of conservatives are good people, just like the majority of all people are good people.
But of the conservatives that are not good people they tend to be horrible in this way: they are xenophobic. They want to 'conserve' things the way they have always been: with minorities as an underclass, with women in the kitchen, with homosexuals mistreated and discriminated against. The whole vigilante militia thing. And NO, I am not saying that if you believe in traditional roles for women or you support DOMA you are a bad person. I am talking about conservative extremists. Right now that is who the GOP are trying to incite, and they are no more immune to incitement than any other group.
They are playing on the fears of this class of people that a black man with an Arabic middle name is going to take away the country as they know it. McCain may not be ranting at rallies and using the n word, but he is allowing a complete vilification of Obama. And as much as you may dislike Democrats, they are not doing that to McCain. Obama himself has always spoken about McCain in respectful terms, and the worst I have seen Obama supporters write about McCain is that he is old and possible senile.
Holly |
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10.11.08 - 12:50 am | #
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...right... because conservatives are so known for their ability to be incited into panic?
Elena |
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10.11.08 - 12:39 am | #
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Townhalls are meant to be McCain's specialty but he bombed out the second debate. Townhalls only work in his favour when the people are on his side. When they are undecideds who don't laugh at his weak jokes he just comes off stilted and condescending.
Granted I have only been observing this election from the other side of the world, but I wonder what you and I are seeing differently if you think McCain hasn't taken the gloves off. Almost all of his advertising budget is for attack ads. McCain stands by and says nothing when people at his rallies call Obama a terrorist and yell "kill him!" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/10/former-
mccain-strategist_n_133523.html)
(http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/
2008/10/mccain_supporter_rants_about_h.php)
http://community.livejournal.com...l/1004859.html)
Bobby May, McCain's campaign chair for VA, wrote this defamatory editorial: http://www.latimes.com/media/acr...10/
42750415.pdf
Now either McCain condones that kind of thing, or he is not in control of his campaign.
It seems the McCain campaign is just getting desperate and appealing to the worst kind of prejudice and trying to incite panic.
Holly |
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