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Ezra ,It's one thing to go after Warman and make statements to which you may have proof to back it up (at least for your sake I hope you do) but as much as you are obsessed over the CJC to accuse it of "bankrolling Warman's leagl actions is just crazy. That is unless you have some proof, real proof not imaginary speculation, to back it up.If you do please post it here. If you don't walk away.
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Richard Warman appears to be Canada's answer to the definition of 'frivolous and vexatious' lawsuits.
Cheers
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04.09.08 - 7:53 am | #
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You folks can't afford it and neither can I. Regardless I will be hammering the paypal button 4 times when I get home from work!
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Ezra make sure you have body guards on hand during the Libel Trial, Warman's friends from Stormfront might show up to wave placards saying something akin to "Warman man we love you stay strong brother". He's a member of some nasty white supremacist's forums apparently.
Wink, save me a seat I know I'll enjoy the show.
If the CJC isn't bankrolling him who is? How can a mere DND employee afford to mass Libel sue the conservative bloggasphere and where does he find the time?
Rose |
04.09.08 - 8:15 am | #
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Why isn't the Union of Bloggers defence fund being utilized to help all the Bloggers in this case?
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04.09.08 - 8:17 am | #
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J. Chapel: The Canadian Jewish Congress is a strong supporter of these censorship laws; I am glad that Ezra is willing to address the Jewish lobbyist role in this CHRC debacle.
Second, Ezra never accused the CJC of funding Warman but he stated that he would not be surprised if the CJC did fund Warman. Considering the worship the CJC has heaped on that bald-headed piece of work I would not be surprised if they were bankrolling him...
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04.09.08 - 8:22 am | #
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Re: The Rules of court on the streamlined procedure. If you were to file a counter suite for an amount greater that $50,000 would that be enough to force the matter back into examinations for discovery. Just a thought.
Liam |
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I wonder if Warman is playing a game aobut this Anne Cools thing, and really Steacy wrote it or someone else at the CHRC. So it's a "gotcha" complaint that really will come back and bite him in the A$$. Anyway, interesting allegations. He's put an awful lot at issue that should warrant bringing in extraneous evidence to prove he doesn't have much of a reputation to damage.
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It's puzzling that he would go this far unless he felt he could win.
Or maybe he is just so desperate because his credibility has been so wiped out on the Internet that he really has nothing to lose by taking his chances on this process.
I dunno, but whatever, Ezra you have my donation.
mikhael |
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Hello Ezra...I will be donating $50 next week when I get my paycheque. Keep fighting and don't give up. We'll do our part to help you.
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Mikhael: People like Warman do not know when to quit; this is a common flaw with people like ole Rich.
On the other hand, considering the corrupt legal system that has basically given into him time and time again including the Warman vs: Fromm case; he may believe and rightfully so that he will win any suit against an opponent of state-sanctioned political correctness.
Frank |
04.09.08 - 9:05 am | #
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The word is getting out. Michelle Malkin picked up this story today with an appeal for donations.
Sounder |
04.09.08 - 9:23 am | #
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Warman calls Bernard Klatt and Marc Lemire " known neo-nazi's" in his defamation lawsuit.
Since they aren't, is this not itself defamation?
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My question is: if the farther you dig into the HRC's the more corruption you find, then what should we expect to find if we looked into ANY government agency?
We are being bullied by the government in so many ways these days. Government must be reduced in size, dramatically, because corruption in government always seems to occur - as we know from history.
My personal pet peeve in the War on Drugs and the crime bill that is meant to put more people in jail for nonviolent activities.
The HRC mess should be used as good reason to focus on how we have let the bullies and busy-bodies of the world run our lives by simply getting a lifetime job with the government.
The HRC's are just a symptom. And to complain or to stick your head above water is just offering a target for the government agency of choice to focus on you. I write my MP,MLA etc. and they do not respond.
I am without a voice in the political process and to participate means I must have at least $50,000 for legal fees and be prepared to loose and even maybe go to jail.
One political party wants to criminalize by business activities and the other wants to criminalize my social activities.
Our only hope is to try to get the government out of the education business as they have a dozen formative years to brainwash children into accepting a big government society as being ideal. I would support a movement to privatize the school system. I am too poor to donate to someone else's legal battle and must save for my own rainy day that might come my way.
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Ernst: Try to understand that Warman is not subject to the same laws as mere mortals. The CHRC has ignored postings he has made, postings no White Nationalist would have gotten away with in a million years.
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04.09.08 - 9:56 am | #
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Hmmm Ezra I posted a letter from the National Post which shows that your theory of CJC being anti-Conservative is wrong. I have been having a bit of trouble with my computer so I am sending it again. Here is the letter from the head of the CJC strongly commending Prime Minister Harper for his visit to the Auschwitz death camp last week.
http://www.nationalpost.com/scri....html?
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Reading the letter it is hard to reconcile your position that CJC hates Conservatives.
J Chapel |
04.09.08 - 9:57 am | #
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Jadewarr. The man should never need to be ashamed of his childhood fantasies but the child might be embarrassed that he's still doing it as a grown man.
Thomas LaBelle |
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04.09.08 - 10:03 am | #
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The war is on people.
and my first donation is in
WL Mackenzie Redux |
04.09.08 - 10:12 am | #
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What a complete piece of crap - if some first year associate put that typo-riddled turd on my desk I would send it back covered in red ink and a note that they might want to shape up before their next semi-annual review. Seriously - wtf is a "Pre-judgment" - is it like "post-judgment interest"? I suppose we should be grateful that he didn't spell judgment with a second "e".
Also, I think "five feet of furry" is the technical definition of a very tall Ewok.
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Hang in there, Ezra. Perhaps, Warman has finally bitten off more than he can chew.
You're absolutely right. This lawsuit, like his previous ones against Icke and others and me, is an effort to gag a people with whom he disagrees. This chronic complaint filer is notoriously thin skinned and adverse to scrutiny.
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04.09.08 - 10:31 am | #
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We will fight Ezra. As for Chapel and the CJC - well supporters of Illiberal laws simply do not belong in my Canada. My Granpa did not land on Juno Beach to support tyranny but to defeat it.
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04.09.08 - 10:35 am | #
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In England it was once possible (not sure if this is still the case) for the Attorney General to apply to the High Court and have an individual declared a vexatious litigant. Thereafter he would need the leave of the court to issue any further litigation. I wonder whether this common law provision has been abolished in Canada?
David |
04.09.08 - 10:48 am | #
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When will Keith Martins bill come up for a vote. Can't it be speeded thru the HofC.
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We know the two entities taking most of the heat over this entire sordid affair are the CHRC itself and Richard Warman. Now I assume Warman is not a rich man, even though he has pocketed sizeable money in his ripoff scheme, so one can conclude he is not financing these many lawsuits himself. That leaves the CHRC or an anonymous donor with deep pockets as Warman's backer. It wouldn't surprise me if somehow the CHRC is funding Warman's lawsuits because Fine and company know stakes are very high and their very survival could be at issure. We all know how money changed hands in the sponsorship fiasco so anything is possible. What I am positive about is that Warman has had many meetings with CHRC staff over the current state of affairs and the weasels are planning stategy in concert. After all they all are in this thing together and their necks are on the line.
Ezra, your strategy of denormalization is working. Keep up the good work and you are not alone.
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04.09.08 - 10:51 am | #
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I hit the paypal button.
You know, we got rid of our TV a couple of years ago and every now and then I despair because I can't watch any dramas.
And then this comes along. This is more fun than any episode of Grey's Anatomy could ever be. Just break out the popcorn and check Ezra every night, and see what's new in Warman's world.
I suppose I shouldn't be enjoying it this much, but maybe that will just inspire me to donate more!
SheilaG |
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04.09.08 - 10:53 am | #
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Warman's suit in a nutshell: Malice in Putzland!
Bob |
04.09.08 - 10:57 am | #
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Counter sue his bullocks off! Do whatever you can to get that examination for discovery. Shut this guy down--permanently.
Matt |
04.09.08 - 11:05 am | #
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Go Ezra! You are a TRUE HERO in the fight to preserve our freedoms. Canada (and America) are lucky to have you on our side. We are cheering you onward to victory!
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I no legal expert but it seems to me a counter suit should be launched to get out of the 'fast track' lane. All the 'accused' need his computer(s).
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The h.r.c.'s and those associated with them are enemies of all that's good and honourable and normal. At least, so it seems to me.
I remember my outrage at the prosecution of Mr. Scott Brockie five or ten years ago. A dinner was held to help him with his legal bills. Most of those who went to the dinner were hard-working citizens in the private sector, raising large families, supporting their own schools (and the public schools), tithing to their churches, and participating in ministries to prisoners, abused women, and Mexican contract workers.
And why was Mr. Scott Brockie, a printer, prosecuted? He had turned down a request to publish material that promoted homosexuality. He had previously printed material for the same customers, I think, material that did not specifically promote their deviant way of life. So the customers sued him because of his objection.
They sued him with our money (taxes), and we had to spend more of our money to defend him. Then when he lost, we had to spend more money to pay the fine. Meanwhile, the material that Mr. Brockie refused to print was surely printed by someone else. And so we have to spend more money (or time) to deal with more abused women, prisoners, and children from dysfunctional families, all a product to some degree of the confusion that results when people are not ashamed of homosexuality (and fornication, and adultery, etc.).
What a mess! It's comforting to know that ultimately my money and time is not mine but God's. And in the larger scope, I'm part of the mess. And with that little hint at the Christian gospel, I'll conclude.
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Ezra,
Like Jim, I will be hiting the Paypal button 4X as well.
This libel stuff is just another way to keep his name in the papers as a champion of the left.
DND sure must be proud of their Director of Grievances - not only responsible for looking at them but creating them and keeping the pot boiling.
Interesting as Ernst pointed out, while both he and worn are offended to be called neo-nazis, they don't mind being fast and lose with labels. KKK Kate I think worn mentioned.
Someone should remind Lucy that Delisle is no more a "city" that Barrie is so perhaps SDA will slip through the noose on a technicality.
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I think it's bloody time we Americans had OPERATION CANADIAN FREEDOM and took over your joke of a country. We should, in the interim, grant aslyum to all Canadian warriors for freedom and get PMSH to man up to take these guys out.
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04.09.08 - 12:18 pm | #
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Mr. Levant!
How can I join that 'blogger's union' you wrote about in the past? Perhaps if enough of us joined, its funds could also help with the defence...
Also, how about an online fundraising auction? I don't have a paypal button, but I would have some items I could donate (including a painting entitled 'Ezra's Dungeon')...
Xanthippa |
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04.09.08 - 12:45 pm | #
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Wow, this guy is really priceless... What about your human right to living in peace and to your free speech. A wide reaching diffamation suit against the conservative blogosphere should be thrown out immediately by any judge with a shred of common sense.
Nathalie Caron |
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this hit instapundit 2hrs ago
and do remember what i said about email headers
mafwoj |
04.09.08 - 1:05 pm | #
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As these civil actions, which are an abuse of process, have targeted conservative opinion on the Canadian internet, what, if any, is the political influence tied to this campaign?
Brad |
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I have donated another $100.00 - (now at $500 total). In don't have money to burn, but I just cannot sit by and watch this crap happen. C'mon folks dig into your penny jars!
Gordon MacDonald |
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ERnstG: These comments are made in the context of a legal proceeding, and they therefore are privileged and not subject to a libel proceeding.
Jeff |
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Ezra: is there any way you good folks can join forces and pool your resources for your defense or do you all have to defend this action independant of each other?
Reid |
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sorry where is the lawsuit posted? can't see a link on your blog
art |
04.09.08 - 1:55 pm | #
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Marc Lemire isn't a neo-Nazi? The former head of the Heritage Front? Come on, pull the other one.
Dean Steacy has been accused of theft of communications by Mark Steyn and by Ezra as well. Is it a free speech issue when you publicly accuse someone of criminal activity without proof? I hope Steacy throws his hat in the legal ring too.
I'm off to make popcorn...
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The Claim does not properly fall within Rule 76 as it does not ask "exclusively" for monetary relief. It also requires an "full and unqualified apology and retraction" [of the defamatory statements].
So the Statement of Defence need only object to the action continuing under Rule 76 *for this reason*, to require it to be moved to the usual procedural track. His only response would be to *abandon in the Reply the claims or parts of claim that do not comply*. I cannot see him dropping his demand for an apology...
Moreover, the action can be forced to the usual track if there is a counterclaim or cross-claim in excess of the $50,000 limit...So how outrageous can we (collectively) be in thinking up possible causes of action against Warman *and/or* the CHRC???.
Mr. Warman may not like to have these matters decided by those he clearly sees as his inferiors, so serve a Jury Notice under Rule 47 along with the Statement of Defence. A jury is not mandated in libel actions, but is allowable at the instance of either party.
Since time begins to run against Warman under Rule 76.06(2) as soon as the first Notice of Intent to Defend is served and filed, that should be done immediately. Then he has only 150 days to set it down for trial. (There appears to be no case-law on whether you can require the Registrar to give the 45 day notice at day 105...but any other reasoning would in effect allow the plaintiff 195 days to set the matter down.)
As to Nat.Post, there are more possibilities: NatPost apologized. That restricts Warman to recovering only his 'actual damages'. And he has not claimed any 'actual damages'. His claim may therefore be 'frivolous and vexatious' under Rule 56 and maybe NatPost is entitled to an order for security for costs...because didn't Warman testify somewhere that he owns no assets????
Also raises some interesting lines of questioning about whether CJC is supporting him. That would be champerty or maintenance...
Just thinking out loud...
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Please tell us that you can counter sue this prick back to the rock from which he crawled out from under, where he belongs. Please tell us you will tereat him with maximun vengence and minimal appeasement. Please tell us that there is retribution for this snake and his lousy legal tricks to prevent the full measure of the law from crushing him.
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It is ipso facto "unsavory" (among other things) to sue someone for libel when they voluntarily published a retraction of the alleged libelous material. He has discredited himself latae sententiae (by his own actions). Warman lives on another planet. And so do his lawyers (what kook would represent anyone in a case like this?). Also, why on earth did the Law Society of Upper Canada give Warman an award?! He should be PUNISHED by them!
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04.09.08 - 2:28 pm | #
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Actually, does he have to win?
Could he at the last second retract this and have forced everyone to spend countless hours and $$ preparing?
If so, Mission accomplished.
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Instead of donating to the CPC I will be giving much more to you and the others. But I'm travelling right now and using wireless (and we know what happens with Warman and company around wireless connections!)
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Okay now I am really pissed. I'll be sending you something to help out Ezra. I was also considering filing a formal complaint about Mr. Warman with the Upper Canada Law Society regarding Mr. Warman's conduct. I think everyone should do so and if enough people call for an investigation I believe that there will be no choice but to investigate and at least reprimand him if not disbar him altogether. Here is the link:
http://www.lsuc.on.ca/public/a/c...c/a/complaints/
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I've just read the statement of claim.
I am not a lawyer so I have a question: will the defendants have to prove that Warman did actually post the comments about Cools or will he have to prove that he didn't?
If I recall from the discussions on the web in January, there's a good chance that he did use the isp in question but there's not enough evidence to say so definitively.
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Sunlight is pouring into every crevice the CHRC has. Warman is having the sunlight shone on him as well and obviously finds it as painful as vampires do. It will be exceedingly difficult for him to play by his rules, as he likes to do. I have the popcorn ready ... and anticipate Warman pulling out every dirty trick he knows. Thank God this has had so much attention and coverage, or else I'm afraid he would win. Now that the light is shining bright however, I don't see he has a chance.
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ive been noticing that there have been advertisements on the side of this page and i think you wrote that this site get thousands of hits. You should sell more advertising space on this site. It could help you legal bills
Lance Vincent |
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Ezra, I am gong to suggest something utterly outrageous here...hey...I am MAUS...it's what I do...
Seek the support and endorsement of Mr Doug Christie.
Your enemies will cry guilt by association...that is the very essence of discrimination and knee-jerk judgement.
That act will crystalize the point of this whole exercise. It is not about the victim trip of any group that wants elite status....it is about the benefit of free speach and open, frank, forthright discussion for all.
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This reminds me of the John Peter Zenger trial. Zenger was charged with "seditious libel" in 1735 after publishing an article in his paper that criticized the Governor of New York colony.
It is widely thought of as one of the defining moments in bringing about the American tradition of freedom of speech, after the jury refused to convict him on any of the counts -- not because he hadn't committed the "crime," but because they viewed the law itself was wrong. Alexander Hamilton, his lawyer, had argued that since Zenger's comments were based on fact, that the law shouldn't be used to silence Zenger.
Regolith |
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Years ago, I remember watching Newhart with the character, Dick Louden, as the innkeeper. Dick met a 99.999 year old man whom Dick thought worked in a sewer. No, the old man's income was being a suer. He sued people for a living.
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hi mr ezra,
some things are worth fighting for, and i guess the time has come; this is the line in the sand; i'll give what i can, but apologize that it couldn't be more
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The common law, God bless it, has an opportunity to countersue under a doctrine called abuse of process. Roughly, it is the civil version of false prosecution. It is generally used for the maliciously litigious and ought to be used much more often than now. You might come out not only free and clear, but living in what used to be that turkey's home. Ask your attorney.
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Ezra,
Being a defamation lawyer maybe you can clear this one up. What happens if RW drops the suit the day before the court date and says, "sorry I rethought it and I didnt mean it".
Is he liable automatically for any costs to the court or to the defendants, or would you and the rest of the "free speech five" (trademark pending :-> ) have to go after him on your own?
Thanks in advance
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What exactlly does Warman do at the DND? Sit and puruse his computer all day. Are we getting our dallar value ( Sorry. I know that answer)
Cal |
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In relation to how this case is being funded, would I be right in assuming that it is in fact funded by the taxpayers of Canada.
As I understand the system of fines and penalties imposed by the HRCs when Warman wins a case he collects his "damages" from government coffers and the government then goes on to collect the funds from the defendants.
BTW, has anybody collated the total amount that the taxpayers of Canada have given Richard Warman's hurt ego? I know in one case it was $35,000 so surely the total amount would be well into 6 figures by now. If he collected an average of $10,000 per case that puts it at over a quarter of million of taxpayer dollars paid into Richard Warman's pockets.
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Ezra,
I guess we'll find out soon enough, but I'm curious if you plan on counter-suing.
I'm not a lawyer, but certainly you could at least sue for the legal costs. It seems to me that all this legal action is geared toward harming your reputation. I certainly hope there are legal opportunities for you in this regard.
I would think that a massive award for you and your co-defendants would send a strong message to people who would set out to use courts in this country to prevent free speech.
Paul Holmes |
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04.09.08 - 9:30 pm | #
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Perhaps naming the Post is a transparent attempt to include a defendant with “deep pockets” (is liability in libel also joint and several?).
As for the no-discovery threshold, if one or more defendants were to cobble together a counterclaim(s) exceeding the threshold, would that force discoveries?
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The suit says that calling Klatt credible defames Warman.
WTF?? Hilarious. Just hilarious.
What, you can't make your own judgments on who is credible?
J |
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I agree Liam. It is all about getting the suit into discovery. I suspect Warman will fold like a cheap suit if it succeeds.
J |
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Ezra: years ago you cajoled me into giving you a definition of "vicarious woman" outside the Black Lounge, and I've always felt a little dumb for not having a ready answer at the time. But I can get my revenge by pointing out that you're using "cut bait" incorrectly in every instance. When you say, "Are you going to fish or cut bait?" fishing is the action that you are avoiding by cutting bait. Cutting bait does not mean taking action, but rather avoiding it.
I'll be glad to hit your tipjar again for this lawsuit like I did for the last one.
Chris
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Ezra you might want to check this out: http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/resourc.../news/
statement
This is the Ontario HRC's "Statement Concerning Issues Raised By Complaints Against Macleans Magazine" released on April 9th. They claim that they are not sending the complaint to a Tribunal because the content of a magazine article would not fall under their jurisdiction. Yet they go on at great length chastising Macleans "and others like it" for causing increasing 'Islamophobia' in society, as well as the usual chiding about free speech needing limits.
A clearly triumphant Canadian Islamic Congress crowed in their press release today:
"The Commission's recognition of the prejudicial impact of Maclean's targeting of Muslim Canadians and the importance of establishing viable avenues to challenge racism in the media has vindicated our concerns."
Since Macleans unfortunately can't be made an example of, the OHRC is clearly going to be hunting for another sacrificial lamb. The last paragraph is the most chilling:
Starting July 2008...human rights complaints will no longer be filed with the Commission but will be made directly to the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario... the role of the Commission in preventing discrimination and promoting and advancing human rights in Ontario will be strengthened. The Commission will expand its work... This will include taking a leadership role... regarding the issues raised by Islamophobia in the media and the ways in which the Commission, the media and others can begin to address them."
So it seems that in Ontario we're getting an even more empowered Human Rights Commission this July with a stated goal of silencing any perceived criticism of Islam specifically, while society as a whole is chided for being intolerant. It just gets more depressing.
Max |
04.09.08 - 10:40 pm | #
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Who in Canada can stop this guy?!
winston |
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04.09.08 - 11:12 pm | #
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By no means an expert on defamation law, but there are a few defenses as I recall (fuzzy memories not constituting legal advice here). The "worst" one to use is truth, since it is generally the hardest to prove - though remember, since this is a civil matter, proof is only balance of probabilities (as opposed to beyond a reasonable doubt in criminal). Another is that the plaintiff's reputation was not damaged by the statements - either because the reputation was already low, or because the statements, while not true, are not so defamatory that they lower the plaintiff's reputation.
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My donations in for all 4. Keep fighting these pricks Ezra. Could someone please open a window I smell the strong stink of Dr. Dawg crap in here. For all of the leftards worrying about internet hate - they sure caused a hell of a lot of it. Keep spinning that "web of hate" Kinsella, & Little Dick! The war is heating up!
Rob |
04.09.08 - 11:54 pm | #
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Most museums contain differing artifacts of the past that either no longer exist (dinosaurs), or recreations of past civilizations to educate visitors of "what it used to be like". I just have to ask why the government seems to be determined to build a "MUSEUM OF HUMAN RIGHTS".
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dr dawg asks if it is it a "free speech issue when you publicly accuse someone of criminal activity without proof;" er, yes it is; that is, in fact, the complete essence of the issue; however, you'd have to direct the inquiry to the various hrcs throughout the land to fully understand it; have you not been paying attention?
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I will not re-copy the post by "Ming the meciless" above but in my view by allowing it on your blog Ezra, you sustain and support the counselling of murder.
Ming calls for the murder of Richard Warman. That has to be against tje law. You have a responsibility Ezra to ensure such posts are not published. This crosses legal and moral lines. Welcome to the world of neo-Nazi's Bill White.
I somehow doubt this will make it onto your site so I will save it in case I need to post it elsewhere.
Mordechai |
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Hi Ezra,
It seems like Warman has started a trend. There is a copycat lawsuit based on fradulent evidence planted thru third party wireless network under way in Newmarket Court. Chris Sorley lawyer from Aurora is acting a a hatchet man for Justice Craig Perkins of Newmarket Family Court and he is suing friend of mine for 50k for alleged defamation.
Every time I read your blog it explains every move Chris Sorley makes.
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"Five Feet of Furry"
ROTFLMAO!!!
Do you really think he found a lawyer willing to take this on?
Louise |
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Particularly enjoyed the section entitled "Comedy of Errors".
If this poor guy Warman wasn't so seriously and dangerously annoying, he'd be nothing more than a laughingstock. Such mental disorder one rarely sees, except in someone like Keith Richards of the Stones...
Richard Warman is pathetic and pitiful, in my opinion.
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Josef:
It sounds to me like you don't know anything about Canada.
"I think it's bloody time we Americans had OPERATION CANADIAN FREEDOM and took over your joke of a country"??!!
whoa dude get a grip!
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Warman is costing his targets a lot of money, and perhaps making some ambulance chasing lawyers very rich. He's gotta be stopped and the HRCs have to be overhauled. I'm wondering if he's trying to stall that later by making sure there is a steady stream of cases that have to be dealt with beforehand. Maybe Ezra can tell us the legalities of such a scenario.
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Mordy wrote: Ming calls for the murder of Richard Warman. That has to be against tje law. You have a responsibility Ezra to ensure such posts are not published. This crosses legal and moral lines. Welcome to the world of neo-Nazi's Bill White.
I somehow doubt this will make it onto your site so I will save it in case I need to post it elsewhere.
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LOL get real Mordechai, Ming could easily be a HRC's employee or one of their fans yet again setting up a sting operation to entraped some poor sod. Canadians don't believe a word we read when it comes to White Supremacy, because the biggest and the badest to date have been employees of the Feds i.e. CSIS or HRCs across Canada. Nice try at throwing in a red herring, but the actors at the HRC have tainted their well and there is no going back.
The thought of OHRC expanding their mandate to persecute those that speak out against Radical and Political Islam should send a terror filled chill through every Canadian, we've read enough about their antics to know without a shadow of a doubt these people follow illogical socialist ideology.
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Kinsella has boasted many times that SDA and Five Feet of "Furry" had lawsuits coming their way.
Recall this comment --
"I'm getting ahead of myself, but what do you think a used lot in Deslisle, Sakatchewan, would go for in a Sherriff's auction? I'm thinking of putting in a bid, just for kicks."
"THE CANADIAN JEWISH CONGRESS ON RICHARD WARMAN" at http://www.warrenkinsella.com/in...ry080125-
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So after all this boasting, why is it that he's not written anything about this (as far as I can tell) on his blog?
Is Kinsella involved in Warman's lawsuits?
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This is a petty and pathetic lawsuit and you have my prayers and support. I've put up a blog entry on my site about this and encourage everyone else - left or right - to do so, spread the word, and if you can afford it to help these bloggers out with their legal defense.
No matter what your political perspective, this kind of tyranny and attempt to silence dissent should be repellent to you.
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Mordechai, do you really believe that "Ming the merciless" is calling for the murder of Warman? Is that the sort of speech you feel needs to be censored? Hmmmm....sorry, but that doesn't do it for me (or most others, I think). His rant is just that - a rant. When he gets into specifics about organizing a vigilante posse and gives an address where all to meet and go after Warman, then I might agree something needs to be done about the real threat.....but surely we can read this childish blog and pass it off as nonsense? Like I said - take a Valium..
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Mordechai, if you think Ming is a real threat to Richard Warman, you should be on the phone to the police, not sitting there writing comments to Ezra.
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Might become relevant:
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Articl...408?
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Ezra, please, PLEASE videotape as much as you can and get it out there. At the very least, try to post transcripts.
I've got to get more straight-out political posts up on my own blog. Maybe one day I, too, can be sued by Richard Warman or one of his thuggish cohorts, which I would consider a true badge of honour. Since I've only just today gotten my first ever silly leftist flame comment, I suspect I'm a long way from that level. Still, dare to dream....
-Zirbert
http://zirbert.blogspot.com
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04.10.08 - 2:46 pm | #
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Well Connie/Ezra - that is exactly right.
Strange timing as Worn is also a compulsive self-blogger and has picked up Ming's silly comment and is suggesting death -well at least disbarment for Ezra.
Strange how these 2 cretin has-beens move in the same repetitive circle loop/jerk - saving freedom and democracy as well as the planet.
Lucy dares not have a Blog for the same reason Worn gets so few visitors.
They must be lots of fun at a party.
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The Macleans piece on Warman is reasonably balanced , he comes across as just being shy of David Ickes type nuttiness. Like Ickes he is absolutely blind to aspects of reality.
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well, looks like warman has chosen to ratchet it up.
I wonder if mailing him a compendium of the many wars of the 20th century where the instigators got their nuts handed to them in the end, would bring him around to the reality of the situation he has created?
again, this individual is showing symptoms of some psychotic disorder. and thats what makes him dangerous; rational people are predictable esp regarding self preservation and self interest. warman seems lacking in the former and overabundant in the latter.
finally the war of words is going to enter the real courts of the land, not those abominations aka XHRCs.
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I just donated $100.00 to your fight. It's the first time in my life that I've donated money for a political struggle of any kind. Good luck, Ezra. You're on the side of angels and Warman and the CJC are on the side of 20th century totalitarianisms and state-sponsored censorship. Warman is a fascist thug with a mean streak who desperately needs to be taken down a peg of two. Hopefully when you're done with him, we'll never hear from this narcissistic egomaniac and media-whore again.
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Ezra,
I thought you might find this amusing, coming from one of Warman/Kinsella's biggest supporters:
"Pie-throwing is not, on a scale of one to ten, much of an assault..."
- Dr Dawg
http://chrisvanoostveen.blogspot...lla-
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Chris Vanoostveen |
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04.10.08 - 6:54 pm | #
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Ezra,
I think Mark is going to be OK: http://www.googlefight.com/index...ichard%
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But you're in trouble: http://www.googlefight.com/
index...=Richard+warman
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04.10.08 - 7:35 pm | #
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There are several who have questioned Ezra's comments about Warman and the CJC, wondering whether or not the CJC was bankrolling Warman's latest efforts.
At Marc Lemire's most recent HRT hearing, the CJC, B'Nai Brith, and Simon Weisenthal Center all had lawyers in attendance.
Warren Kinsella, a lawyer who now works for the CJC, posted on his blog that Kate, Kathy, and several other bloggers were all soon to be on the receiving end of a lawsuit.
You do the math.
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04.10.08 - 8:20 pm | #
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I thought Kinsella was a volunteer with CJC.
Mordechai |
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04.10.08 - 8:59 pm | #
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It's not much of an assault, I said, compared to hanging Warman while putting electrodes up his rectum. Context is all, and Chris is being a little sleazy in that respect.
Dr.Dawg |
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Doug Christie has said that the Simon Weisenthal Center is bankrolling Warman, at least that's what he thinks. Who knows? Richard Warman is a little grievance officer with the Department of National Defence in Ottawa. He doesn't make the type of dough to allow him to sue everyone and his brother like he does. So someone is probably helping him out financially. Additionally, I'd be curious to know what his superiors at DND think of all his extracurricular activities. How does he stay focus on the job with all those law suits going on in the background, etc.? How can someone with Warman's obvious biases be an impartial grievance officer?
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Ezra, In regards to posting Ming's comments. If it was simply an oversight. You did the right thing by taking it off. If you knew exactly the content and posted it (for making a point) then buckled under liberal pressure then shame on you.
Ezra, you are under a spotlight right now. You have promted us to Arms. With this comes responsibility.
I think you should make a statment about the posting of Ming's comment.
Thanks again for fighting the good fight.
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04.10.08 - 9:20 pm | #
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I hope you do well in your defense against this pissant slug of a person.
Jeff |
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04.10.08 - 9:28 pm | #
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Hmmm...let's see. "Ming the Merciless" is a sci-fi character (Flash Gordon).
Dean "Jadewarr" Steacy was a huge fan of sci-fi...
Wouldn't be the first time one of that group posted a hate message just to stir up shit and create yet another HRC complaint for profit.
Just an observation...
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Seeing the ad for the Playboy Store at the bottom here....have you asked Hef for a donation....this is up his alley, so to speak.
BTW I agree, you should make a statement about Ming's comments
1) Did you make a mistake posting them, i.e. you were rushed
2)These comments are not acceptable and when they come to your attention, as some get through, you will remove them...essentially a general policy statement. I am sure they were posted maliciously as the offensive comments were buried quite deep in a long post, easy to miss. I know I did because I didnt want to wade through the whole gooey thing.
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I sent you some cash Ezra. Keep up the good fight and please, for the love of all that is good and righteous bury this idiot.
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Barrelstrength announces the creation of a movement to assist the smaller defendants in the Warman case. We are calling it Tankards for Truth.
The idea is that people across Canada will hold events in their favourite drinking spot to raise money.
Board games, movies, sports events, bicycle rallies, 100 meter marathons for out-of-shape bloggers - it does not matter. Help organize a fundraiser in your community.
No money should go to Tankards for Truth. All money you collect should be sent to the defendants.
Our goal is to raise money for Catherine MacMillan of Small Dead Animals, Mark and Constance Fournier of Free Dominion, Ezra Levant, and Kathy Shaidle of Five Feet of Fury. We assume that the Aspers and the National Post can take care of themselves.
We know that each of these bloggers has a donations button on their pages. We intend to supplement their fund raising with fundraising on their behalf.
We will communicate with the defendants to tell them of our support and coordinate our efforts with theirs, as appropriate.
We will set up a website, www.tankardsfortruth.ca, which will be up shortly. A MySpace page will be created. We will allow postings of events and cooperate with other activists to help defray the costs of supporting freedom of speech.
We welcome all communication from supporters of the bloggers who have been made the subject of Richarrd Warman’s libel suit.
Let every person concerned with freedom of speech in this country know of this movement. Organize your own Tankards for Truth event.
Let us know how you feel. Write to Dalwhinnie@barrelstrength.com. Get out there and drink, run, play, bicycle, perform for freedom of speech! get every friend you know to your local event. Send the defendants money!
We will have more details as we develop our plans.
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Ezra,
You really should take a look at Dr. Dawg's site, and maybe mine too (see link below). Dr. Dawg & Co. have just spent the last couple days claiming you're "responsible" for the death threat; that you must have read it, and must have posted it knowingly. I think that's outrageous, and I pointed this out on his site. For this, he banned me from his site for being an "agent provocateur." Personally, I'm insulted at being compared to Richard Warman.
Dr. Dawg,
I provided the link, so everyone can read your comments for themselves.
Here they are again:
"Pie-throwing is not, on a scale of one to ten, much of an assault. The entartistes do it as a form of ego-deflating. Sure, technically it's an assault, but it's not a rope around the neck with electrodes up your ass, to quote Levant's commenter."
http://chrisvanoostveen.blogspot...lla-
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04.11.08 - 2:47 pm | #
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Darn, I didn't make the Warman hit list. I even awarded Warman the Trudeaupia Jackboot Award. He hasn't responded to my emails which is surptising since I'm offering a pair of Jackboots so he can look the part he obviously wants to play.
My award goes to people intent on detroying Western values in Canada.
If you read this Richard, send your boot size and acceptance speech! I can also get you a great price on an SS officer's outfit.
Heil, Warman!
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04.12.08 - 6:51 am | #
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Does Chris ever tell the truth? Inquiring minds want to know.
For the record, no claim was ever made at my place that the comment was posted "knowingly," despite Chris' yeoman efforts to coax me and my readers to commit an act of libel. His persistence in that regard continued ling after we were on to him. (And, of course, the Ming post was not a "death threat"; it was incitement. Different part of the Code, but still criminal.)
Dr.Dawg |
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04.12.08 - 8:04 am | #
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Warman, the one man? class action lawsuit.
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04.12.08 - 10:47 am | #
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Two people are conspicuous in their absence from Warman's lawsuit. I refer to Bernard Klatt and Marc Lemire.
It was Klatt and Lemire, after all, who reported on the trail of bread crumbs that led them to suggest that Warman was behind the Cools post.
Why doesn't this man/child sue Lemire and Klatt? And, if the fact that Klatt and Lemire are exempt because the charge was made in giving evidence during a trial, how are people who reported this evidence ( Kate, Freedominion, Levant, NatPost, etal) now somehow guilty of libelling Warman?
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As I understand it, ErnstG, Lemire has never publicly made the allegation. Klatt has, but in a commission hearing, which is privileged.
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I direct persons interested in abuse of office, to read Donald Savoie's new book on exactly that topic: "Court Government and the Collapse of Accountability in Canada." Savoie doesn't tell the whole story; in essence, elite status defence is the paramount issue held by adjudicators at all levels. And they use nominal "independence" as a means to advance pathological and serial co-dependence with fellow officers of the court.
Do you believe that judicial-review is a reliable means to the ends of justice? That procedural form arose out of the US Supreme Court case of Marbury v President Madison (1804), in which tenure, notwithstanding lack of staturory enablement was pleaded. The judges found that once a right is established, a remedy MUST follow. To those who think that judicial legislation is a glorious thing, be aware that Marbury was a fellow JUDGE. The court took a private benefit from that decision. Fast forward to 1857, and we have the same court faced with an escaped slave ("Dred Scot") who sought free status. With 4 justices being either slave holders or tied to a private interest in same, the court saved the slave-return law by finding Scot to be void of rights. Reason: a pleading negro is "an inferior sort of being."
Canadians need to think of justice system conduct in occupational-cultural rather than legal-factual terms. Do you believe that cops operate on a Code-of-Silence? Since July 1, 1867, Canadian judges have repeatedly abridged due consideration of that issue. Why? They operate their own private law code. Once, they were forced fed the issue in a particularly revolting BC case of cop savagery. However, after said SCC case - "O'Hara" - seemed to produce a remedy to state concealment, the high court soon quashed same in the monumental perversity of "R v Calder." In BC courts 19 out of every 20 Charter findings, are end-run on "minimum impairment" perversities. However, the CCRF - nationalized by CJ McLachlin's elite interest judicial administration - is applied liberally in police coverup cases. The Charter is an instrument of government for government.
False perceptions of the inevitable outcome of the Steyn Inquisition are still entering public discourse. Trust me that this exegesis of Stalin Show Trial mentality, governs the elite 2% who produce and uphold decisions that derogate the rights of 98% of Canadians. We are in a state of insurrection as yet unapprehended. Revolution will follow any state where a majority is oppressed by a minority.
Some believe that there is a defence of "truth" in Canadian HR cases. That is false. I sat in at the Steyn Inquisition on Tuesday, when Madame Mao found that testimony as to Steyn's intent is not relevant. Reason: HR law rests on "effects." Any pathological or deliberate liar can claim some speech caused enmity against same, and an HR tribune will serve as their player piano. And truth is a rare defence in these cases, beca
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I have filed a BCHRC complaint against Elmasry for a "publication" which attacked my
"ancestry," "religion," and "place of origin." The article of offence was published in the Leftislamo website, "Media Monitors." Leftists support muslim states where they would be beheaded in short shrift.
http://world.mediamonitors.net/
h...n_and_tradition
Are you hurt?
http://www.bchrt.bc.ca/forms/
pdf...plaint_Form.pdf
Sobieski2 |
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Hi. I just wanted to point out that some major Canadian tv media ran the Danish cartoons. I saw them on TV and did not find them offensive, although apparently some Muslims are opposed to any depiction claiming to represent their prophet.
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