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That really is disbarrment material in and of itself.
Yet he gets rewarded for it.
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This sewerage goes on in an Anglo Common Law root country?
Does the legal system in Canada have no shame?
Don't believe all the "recently troubled" Conservatives and "shocked" fellow traveller Liberals....they all support the HRC.
It's Ezra's blow torch that has some hedging their bets.
If Ezra and Steyn went away so would the concerns of the "recently troubled" politicians.
Trust their support not as far as you can drop kick any one of them soaking wet.
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Warman,is vile. That letter was part of a so called punishment meted out by the chrc's star chamber on Elizabeth Lampman. For Warman to use it as a weapon to entrap others says much about the man's character, or more the lack of. He must have been very angry at her that he didn't make any money off of her case. It sends chills up my spine that such despicable creatures as Warman have been lauded in the Canadian press, as a defender of human rights.
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Richard Warman should be put in jail.
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Wow, this Warman guy really IS a scumbag, huh? A lot of your posts really get my bile up, but this Warman character goes way too far this time. He's less concerned about the safety of a young woman than he is about fomenting hatred so he can make a little cash? That has 'scumbag' written all over it.
For the record, I live in America. We are allowed to call scumbags 'scumbag' here. Warman is a scumbag. No hard feelings if your country's laws don't permit you to print this comment.
kevin |
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Ezra:
How did Warman come by having a copy of that private mediation correspondence with the CHRC? Who at the CHRC released a confidential correspondence?
The letter was written to Nancy Lalonde at the CHRC. Who is Nancy Lalonde? What is her relationship with Warman? Who was Lancy Lalonde's superior in 2004? - Was that John Chamberlain - manager of the Hate Squad?
How many other confidential documents at the CHRC were released to non CHRC people?
You might want to look at David Langtry's Opening Statements of May 2008. It is on the CHRC website. Pay particular attention to Item Reference #5, where a mediation case is referred to and the name and details are withheld. Privacy of the individual is claimed by the CHRC.
Then cross reference Langtry's comments with those of Ian Fine's the other day, then back against this issue.
Then look up some of the other people (victims) they have outed. The readers of your blog should take the time and have a good look at Jessica Beaumont as well. She was not only outed in public - Jessica was railroaded.
Liz Lampman was not a one-time event.
... and Simon The Supressor with his dutiful sidekick, Alice In Wonderland, along with the Partners Three, don't want your readers to know anything about these events.
Judging by the silence, neither does Justice Minister, Rob Nicholson.
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I cannot wait for your day in court with this little weasel.
FWIW, this post alone might very well be a S.13 violation...I'm feeling a lot of hate towards Dick right now.
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Perhaps you've missed the semantics of the last question in the transcript. It ends with the question "correct?", to which Warman answers "No." So he's really saying that he does care.
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I do not support the CHRC in the sense that I believe that people should be free to say things that I don't agree with including deeply offensive things. I think that what yourself and others have gone through is just wrong.
At the same time I refuse to buy into the idea that I should have any empathy for Elizabeth Lampman and persons like her. Your presentation of her as someone "just out of high school" and buying into the idea that her boyfriend is resposible for her past thinking is highly flawed. She is one-hundred and ten percent responsible for her thinking at that time. While I admire her transition out of that movement to diminish her responsibility as an adult for her attachment to those groups is wrong. We choose our boyfriends. We choose the company we keep.
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if that damning episode doesn't torpedo the SS StarChamber and all who sail in her then i don't know what will....
the ramifications are appalling...surely apprising the wavering wobbling pols of all parties of this revolting criminal behaviour will spur them on to finally act...
frankly, i'm disgusted. these are NOT nice people.
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Can't charges be filed here? This is a gross violation of privacy. What sort of twisted mind does it take to work at the CHRC?
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Why oh why do I continue to torture myself by rweading your blog faithly. I get so upset at this mindless evil twerp Warman and I am glad you are fighting for us.
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here's a satiric look at what a CHRC/CHRT ad campaign might sound like
http://www.cruxy.com/info/15032
they're here to help, not hurt
after all, if this girl were ever wronged, she could take her complaint to the CHRC, just like everybody else
Jed marlin |
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I have seen many "dangerous" girls that weigh in 90 pds or more or less.
Suddenly her weigt tells us if she is dangerous or not?
As for pound of flesh for flesh,hmmm thats sounds familar.
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Boy, the CJC can really pick their heroes!
Hello CJC - anybody home? This is the individual you want to hitch your wagon to?
Talk about evil personified. The CJC should be ashamed to be associated with such a lowlife.
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Ezra, wow! You can't make this stuff up! This info you're bringing to light is stunning. Everyday I wake up and make your site a must read (along with Jihad Watch and Jawa). Everyday new amazing revelations.
We're winning! Keep up the excellent coverage.
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" ... parties are not permitted to use the disclosed material for any purpose collateral to the litigation (PSAC v. Canadian Museum of Civilization 2004 CHRT 38 at para. 12).
As a lawyer, the Complainant is subject to professional obligations and rules of conduct that prohibit him from using the information from the list(s) for purposes that are unrelated to the present litigation."
MEMBER: Karen A. Jensen
2006 CHRT 31
2006/08/15
Yeah. Right.
They are all full of it.
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Ezra, I am uncomfortable with the publication of the girl's picture - unless of course you have her agreement.
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Wow this is the most damaging expose of warman yet. I agree that fire them all is the least that should happen and I hope that the girl will file a lawsuit against warman for exposing her to danger. She would win hands down.
Keep up the ferreting because there is certainly a lot more garbage that has to be taken out.
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Why hasn't a complaint been filed with the Law Society of Upper Canada? This sounds to me like it is very serious. What you describe, if true, would in my view clearly be "conduct unbecoming a barrister and solicitor", as it involves "conduct in a lawyer's personal or private capacity that tends to bring discredit upon the legal profession including, for example ...
(b) taking improper advantage of the youth, inexperience, lack of education, unsophistication, ill health, or unbusinesslike habits of another." (LSUC Rule of Professional Conduct 1.02)
This behavior, if proven, would also contravene Mr. Warman's obligation of confidentiality under LSUC Rule of Professional Conduct Rule 2.04:
(1) A lawyer at all times shall hold in strict confidence all information concerning the business and affairs of the client acquired in the course of the professional relationship and shall not divulge any such information unless expressly or impliedly authorized by the client or required by law to do so.
I don't know whether such a complaint has been filed. If it has not, as member of the LSUC, I would certainly be pleased to assist in drafting it. This kind of behavior needs to be investigated, and if has taken place, professional discipline proceedings would be, to my mind, appropriate. Please contact me at ArnoldSchonberg@yahoo.com or call me on my cell at 416-458-7734.
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You can't make this stuff up.
Reading this ruined my day. How am I going to go to work and pay income tax to support this?
Please help.
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This vile evil man has the audacity to sue for Libel when he's done such unspeakable things to those who meerly annoy him. What he did to her was revenge, how many other victims are out their who have had their lives ruined because they annoyed Richard Warman.
Fire them all, how can our PM justify the relationship Warman has with the CHRC? Fire them all, and while the PM is at it order a full judicial review of the Ontario Law Society and Law Schools in Ontario. If Warman's actions are acceptable under current moral guide lines for Lawyers what is deemed "Behavior unbecoming a Lawyer"?
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Mr. Levant, how do I contact you? I wrote to my MP (John Cummins) and wanted to show you the letter and his reply.
Regards,
Kieron Grady
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This whole HRC business just gets more and more vile.
Ezra - I have cut and pasted some of your blog posts into email and sent them to Nicholson, Harper and my MP. If you do not object, I would like to continue to do so (and perhaps add main steam media to the list) - that is if you do not mind?
Great work, great digging keep it up.
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Ezra, it seems to me that these people in pursuit of their own visions are tyrannical in the extreme, and will do or say just about anything to promote (or is it foment) their own agenda's. Unfortunately, it's with the support of our own Government institutions such as the HRC's.
A good definition I found online (webster's dictionary) for an idealogue is
- an often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology.
Seems to fit in this case.
Well keep up the fight, and I will continue to support you, financially and otherwise.
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Hey Ezra, is there a way to find out how many people from the Law Society of Upper Canada have visited your web site?
One would think that the society would be boning up on Warman during their investigation of his alleged behaviour?
That would be a pretty Interesting statistic, would it not?
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Wow - Warman is even worse than I thought - and I thought he was pretty bad to begin with. To knowingly put a 19 year old girl at risk out of petty spite is pretty low. To have not one ounce of remorse or concern about the action is even lower. He really is a "ends justify the means" kind of guy - but the only end he is concerned about is him.
Expat Texan |
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Here in the States Mr. Warrman would already have been prosecuted under the RECO Act. As well as for blackmail and extortion.
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EZRA:
Fire. Them. All.
A battle cry I could live with if not promote. After reading this bit of HRC sleaze I now think this outfit ought to not only to be fired by charges laid for maliciousness. But every case looked at for this pattern of behavior with redress to those attacked by this stalking crew. Some should go straight to jail. Cruel & inhuman conduct by these inquisitors comes to mind. This is despicable, have these monsters NO morals or Ethics?
Naw I see the same small piggish spitefulness when I see sick unto death smokers at Hospitals out in -20 degree's below, because of the anti-smoking fanatics. Even though we can send probes to other planets we can't make a good filtering system in one room?
The same mentality was at work from this predator when he put this girl in danger. Pure self righteous waspish hate.
Some of these characters need to see the inside of the crowbar motel for their iniquities’ against others. For that is what they are.
Its obvious this crew is about as sensitive & empathic as praying mantis’s on the hunt. The decent of this group into a cultish feedback loop of tyranny. Reinforcing each others madness & them amplifying it to do any injustice they please, while feeling like there on a mission from G-D. Instead they worship at the idol of Multiculturalism with mammon as their true deity. It demands human sacrifice in pain, penury or a pound of flesh to sate its lust for so called bigots whom they only define.
Just my opinion
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Unbelievable. This guy needs to be stopped, if not jailed. This is the same guy my that speaks about hate speech at my law school. Funny he didn't mention any of this during the speech that I know of. What a twisted individual.
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Ezra, your blog is not visited only by the well-intentioned. Have you not compounded Warman's egregious behavior toward this girl by reporting on it with unnecessary identifying detail?
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Way to go, Ezra.
(Kindle : "compounded the behavior"? Please. Mr. Warman is a govt employee. This needs to be exposed - and I'm not even Canadian)
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Kindle:
Are you kidding me? Its BECAUSE Ezra has been reporting on this obvious crook, and all the NECESSARY details to go along with it, that the Government will finally have to stand up and do something about it. Like firing every single person who works there - close it down! Its paid for by Taxpayers of Canada, its not their personal piggy-bank.
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I have written 3 letters to the PM's office regarding the CHRC and Richard Warman telling them that as a Conservative Party member and contributor they should show some leadership on this matter and take action to eradicate Section 13 of the HRC. I told them if they did not take action I would not vote Conservative and send all contributions to Kate McMillan's defense at the CHRC hearings.
I have not had one response from the Govt. So I think Stephan Harper is just like the rest of the politicians. Canada is in serious trouble.
As for Richard Warman, he should be jailed and disbarred. And yes "Fire Them All".
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Kieron Grady, contact Ezra by email at ezra@ezralevant.com
Sounder |
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Ezra, was it necessary to post her picture? As you said, she has recanted and is trying to put the ugly episode behind her. Your posting her picture does NOT help, and I find it disappointing.
Sean |
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So Bernier resigns today (as he should have) for leaving a briefing book at his girlfirend's, one with less than stellar friends, and yet the person who has admitted under oath that he released confidential government documents remains employeed by the Department of National Defence.
I dont quite see how that one works....but clearly those with greater responsibility for national security than me dont think it is a problem....
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Richard Warman seems to be a 21st century version of Titus Oates.
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I am not a fan of using someone's private life to mess up their career, but as an attorney and a former soldier, I am deeply troubled that someone like Warman can work at DND. From everything I've seen, the man has a very limited respect for the law, the regulations governing his employer and his duties as an officer of the court. As our military is currently engaged in a full-on shooting war with people who share the ideology of some of the complainants who are using the CHRC against Steyn, there would seem to be a huge potential for breaches of security that could have real national security implications. If there are any members of the DND leadership reading these comments, I would hope that they would look into this - surely there is some sort of an ethics clause in his contract?
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Dear funny girl,
This industry is actually in the form of a "Seltered Workshop" for those who can't grasp the concept of
due process, fair play etc.
These poor dears could not make it
where ethics and law apply. Let's
also remember the experts and consulants who are their friends. These people need their nice pay packets too. It would be so sad to
think that they would have to do
ordinary work like the rest of us.
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Yeah, I think this is pretty horrific but the case against Warman isn't served by misinformation, and I think that his final comment ("no") was in response to "you didn't care, correct?" So he's denying that he didn't care. I would modify the title of the post. Of course, his difficulty dealing with a "compound question" is rather silly. The ridiculous self-contradiction, however, is the fact that he thinks that neo-Nazis are dangerous and must be stopped, but that they simultaneously pose no security risks. Hmmmm . . .
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I used to think he was a fanatic; now I think he's unconsciously identifying with these neo-Nazis and his crusade against them is really a crusade against the dark side in himself.
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Incredible!
What's a little collateral damage in the "war on hate?" The end justifies the means, eh Warman?
You know? I really wanted to cut this guy a little slack, if only because these clowns are being so well skewered on this site!
But he was not willing to do the same for this girl, was he?
In this "war," he is like a rogue sniper targeting non-combatants and those who surrender sans remorse. Such a person is rightly despised by all sides.
See you at The Hague...
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I predict that the C.H.R.C will eventually use Richard Warman as a scape goat to cover their own iniquities. Evil attacking evil to get rid of evil to hide their own evil. Talk about a monster that eats itself.
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i sure hope that the exposure of the HRC's you are providing finds its way to the privacy commission and the RCMP who are supposedly investigating this abuse.
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Ezra,
Your blog is a "must-read" for Americans.
I would've thought this information about Warman wasn't credible, and also unbelievable, had I not been reading the blog since you posted your HRC videos.
The info is credible and believable. Wow.
Keep up the great work!
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warman and the hrc use the same tactics as the communists - what has happened to Canada?
fire and prosecute these scumbags with extreme prejudice!
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Good grief, read Elizabeth's letter, then go watch some Chinese movies of the Mao era. I would be very surprise if you didn't see a similarity.
So why don't you Canadians set up some re-education camps and re-educate those haters. Elizabeth's recantation may please some, but she still needs to be re-educated to root out her hate, and think correct thoughts.
Btw, the Chinese are too busy making money, their camps are almost empty and over staffed. Canadians should import some of their experienced educators, or outsouce their re-education to those camps. A couple of decades later, the re-educated Canadians may become as success driven as those Chinese graduates. Worth a try.
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warman has now crossed a line with me.
a line that only works in one direction, a line which no amount of apology or recant or compensation can make alright.
*a 19 year old girl who was just tagging along with a former boyfriend*
hell, he raced over the line at top speed.
at some moment, it may have already occurred, warman will realize he is in over his head. the best we can hope for is he gets desperate and takes the entire HRC structure down with him.
my next paypal donation is in the works.
Fire. Them. All.
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How do you "fire" Warman ?
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no...what disgusts me is that the CHRC violated the confidentiality of the young lady's letter of apology....which to me appears perfectly sincere and heartfelt...
this is a vile punishing gratuitous bit of nastiness...warman should hang his frickin head in shame....and the CHRC ?...dear me...if i were even remotely a party to such despicable mean behaviour i would distance myself immediately.
it simply reinforces what we already know about these people....they ARE despicable criminal minded people....and there is no doubt in my mind this warman is borderline mentally ill....there can be no other rationale for such an odious sociopathic act.
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In light of this post, this article from the Canadian Jewish News lauding you-know-who's efforts is unintentionally--and grimly-- hilarious: http://www.cjccc.ca/inthenews/
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Very good work Ezra, keep it up Warman is out of control.
A group of us from across Canada are starting up an ACT for Canada and we need your help Ezra. Please contact me on my email
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Just when I thought we were at the bottom of the scum filled barrel with this fiasco, News like this makes me shake my head in disgust and desblief proving me wrong. What are the Conservatives waiting for regarding this, reign them in NOW !!!!
I've written my MP, no response yet.
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For the reading impaired among us, Warman was asked several times if he cared about that young lady's security. In particular, this direct exchange;
MS KULASZKA: You weren't concerned about her security?
MR. WARMAN: No.
It could not possibly be any clearer than that. Warman was completely unconcerned about her security, yet Warman insists on having 2 bodyguards when he was at the hearing for Melissa Guille, another 90 lb woman.
And don't be fooled into thinking that this is all Warman's doing. The CJC and B'nai Brith both have worked with and procured grants for the uber-violent ARA "anti-racists". Karen Mock, who is cited in the AG's report, was the member responsible for the ARA being awarded $8,000.00 of taxpayer money, when Mock knew full well they were violent. ( yes, this is also in CHRT testimony)
There is someone behind the curtain, and it ain't Warman.
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Holdfast wrote: If there are any members of the DND leadership reading these comments, I would hope that they would look into this - surely there is some sort of an ethics clause in his contract?
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I agree, but I'm concerned the Brass will be on Warman's side. Surely they did a back ground check on this man before they hired him? Apparently his ends justify the means style of behavior may be putting our Military Members in grave situations. This bothers me greatly.
The simple fact is Warman has been allowed to use the HRC for prophet, if hate was dripping rampantly out of Canadians' mouths as the CHRC infers would they need a second rate advocate to act as their Stooge? NO, it's a redundant organization that needs to seek out or manufacture hate in order to ensure they receive their paychecks until they retire. The only true definition I've seen of hate has been the actions of Warman and the CHRC. In a civilized society ruled by a Moral Code these cival servants would be fired for "Conduct unbecoming a Moral and Ethical Person".
I just finished reading Fine's Speech at Blazing Cat Fur and LOL Ezra I'm surprised your head didn't emplode. Talk about a marxist agenda, spit what a load of crappolla.
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That letter had all the hallmarks of a "self-criticism" session during the mass murdering days of Mao Zedong's Cultural Revolution. Disgusting.
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I'm uncomfortable with the publication of her picture, too. Since I know that Ezra Levant is a very thoughtful person, I'm confident that he thought it through, and would like to know his thinking about that decision.
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Oh -- and, of course: Warman is an utter scumbag; I live in a free country, and can say that. Since I am both a US and Canadian citizen, I guess it's possible that some of Canada's idiot HRCs may want to do something about that; they're invited to cross the border and kiss my ass.
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And you have not absued this young girl by posting her pic for everyone to see? Perhaps she is trying to move on and there goes Ezra pasting her pic up for all your viewers to see.
Did you get her permission????
thats not very nice Ezra.
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This is beyond any mere political witch hunt . This is mental illness. A narcissistic personality disorder put to the uses of the politically correct inquisition.A Shabbas Goy who really should be in a hospital.
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I have contacted my MP's office ( Finance Minister Jim Flaherty ) 8 times in the last 9 weeks regarding bill M-446 and zero response back from them. What are they afraid of? Will I ever vote Conservative again after 32 years? Hmmmmmmmmm.....
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Bernie Farber, CEO of Canadian Jewish Congress, knows him well. “We have worked very closely with Richard. He is not Jewish, but has a moral centre and has taken actions which must be judged as hugely praiseworthy,” said Farber.
Above copied from Canadian Jewish News. Moral centre indeed. Praiseworthy indeed. I'm laughing so hard I fear I may piss my pants.
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Could you not have made the same point without posting her name and picture? What value do they add, other than making it more likely that future Googlers will forever link her with neo-Nazis?
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I must be missing something -- did he actually ever admit to making the letter public? Because in the transcript he does admit posting a link to the letter on VNN (whether he released the letter was not asked, and leaking/posting a link are two different acts). Of course, if the letter was sent to CHRC and Warman only, he seems like a better candidate, but there seems to be place for uncertainty. Of course, even posting the link to confidential letter is unethical when he as a lawyer should have known better.
Knowing that letter was leaked, reading Vigna's concern about the girl's privacy before Warman could be questioned is just sickening...
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Fire. Them. All.
Indeed. After reading this, I'm utterly outraged. I don't think a mere loss of employment goes far enough. I propose changing it.
Jail. Them. All.
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I agree with Ezra. Fire. Them. All.
But, I also hope there is a special kind of hell on earth for sociopathic scum like Pieman Warman who play with people's lives. Elizabeth had integrity; Pieman lucy has none.
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"I do not see the future threats to free society coming from the old and old- fashioned communist ideology. The name of the new danger will undoubtedly be different, but its substance will be very similar. Like their predecessors, they will be certain that they have the right to sacrifice man and his freedom to make their idea reality."
http://www.powerlineblog.com/
Former Czech Republic President Vaclav Klaus was talking about anti-climate-change environmentalism. But it applies quite well to Canada's HRCs, especially to those who believe "there can't be enough laws against hate." No?
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I fear our courts will support the HRC since they are politically directed and because the HRC takes a lot of nuisance cases off of the docket.
I think our courts have a all the business they need, but the HRC is a great repository for rewarded government sycophants. The are also a great tool for the continued diminishment of individual freedoms and rights in the name of human rights. It as crazy as taxing global warming to fix it.
I wait with bated breath.
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What was the purpose of publishing her piture Ezra? Now everone has her name as well as her face?
Jim R |
05.27.08 - 10:21 pm | #
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There needs to be a full-out RCMP investigation into the antics of Richard Warman. His despicable conduct is beyond the scope of these sham HRC tribunals.
Knight 99 |
05.27.08 - 10:41 pm | #
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I'm so sad. I put two bad words in my takedown of Mr. Warman and it didn't get published. Ezra's just too nice of a bloke to let it through, I guess.
Christoph |
05.27.08 - 11:14 pm | #
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The RULERS see and approve of WARMAN
A REAL LEADER would give him a cabinet
position
A PM would have ended this bullshit
long ago ---- but elections loom,
doom and gloom and HEAD SERVANT ---whoa-- I'm the RIGHT HONORABLE, HEAD
SERVANT (have that last part changed)
OH WHERE's mine and Richies--PAYCHECK
WE EARNED IT, the same way
gray cloud |
05.28.08 - 1:09 am | #
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Christoph this is not Kinsellas web site.Here your words get published. It just takes a little time . Be patient.
Warren Z |
05.28.08 - 1:51 am | #
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Ok, I wasn’t careful skimming the transcript, and he has in effect admitted he released the letter outside commission process:
"8 MS KULASZKA: Did you provide this
9 letter by Elizabeth Lampman to anybody outside of the
10 Commission process?
11 MR. WARMAN: It's entirely possible
12 that I did, yes.
[..]
MS KULASZKA: When you gave this
20 letter over to someone else, did you understand it
21 could be posted on the Internet?
22 MR. WARMAN: In the broadest sense of
23 giving a document to someone else, can they do
24 something with it, yes."
It's utterly disgraceful something like that is permitted to stand.
JanisB |
05.28.08 - 2:06 am | #
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When you are the P M an
w A r M an, stickes, in your head and
it's hard to know, when to know, when
to-------
WAKE UP
LET'S waste some money maybe it will go away, but first ( PAY RICKY )
ooooo and US and don't forget the
PENSIONS (thanks TAXPAYERS) NOT!!!
gray cloud |
05.28.08 - 2:11 am | #
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What is being done about this?
Can this girl sue the HRC now?
Can she sue Warman?
Why has he not faced consequences for his neo-Nazi postings?
If he doesn't, then from now on, anyone who gets in trouble for such posings can say they were just "undercover"
Like people o pedophile chat-sites - they always say they were just trying to expose real pedophiles.
I'm sick and tired of all the talking. Is somebody -- the PM, parliament, RCMP -- going to DO something about this?
Akira |
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05.28.08 - 4:18 am | #
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The key is:
this was a _confidential_ letter.
How did he get it???
Kathy Shaidle |
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05.28.08 - 4:47 am | #
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I'm glad that you obscured her face. All in all, I think it's not likely that any of the neonazi scumbags would harm the young lady, but further exposing her identity wasn't okay.
And, sure, it's possible that her renunciation of her previous associations was less than utterly sincere. But it's hardly unknown for a young person to be led down bad paths by associating with people of low character, and think better of it later on.
Joel Rosenberg |
05.28.08 - 5:52 am | #
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Ezra,
This aggregator site still links to your original article with the unedited picture of Elizabeth.
http://www.aggregator.ca/content.../view/2713/147/
wudjab |
05.28.08 - 6:03 am | #
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Where is Bob Nicholson?
dave |
05.28.08 - 6:19 am | #
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Elizabeth's "confession" sound genuine to me, too. However, I am reminded of Sigmund Freud's words written under duress so the Nazis would release him: "I can most highly recommend the Gestapo to everyone."
She can most highly recommend the thought police to everyone?
scaramouche |
05.28.08 - 6:50 am | #
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Ezra, if the CHRC "asked" you to write a similar letter denouncing your "offensive" and "intolerant" actions, would you do it? Remember, all will be forgiven, you won't get dragged in front of a Marxist kangaroo tribubal with a 100% conviction rate in such cases and you won't have to pay hefty fines and spend even more money on lawyers, would you do it? I'm not saying the letter doesn't express her thinking, just that writing something like that under coercion is worthless and smacks of the Stalinist show trials where the accused would make all kinds of incredible confessions and engage in abasing self-criticim. One typically sees things like that at work in totalitarian regimes. What does it say about the CHRC that they eagerly jumped at the occasion of humilitating a little girl? It leads me to believe that the CHRC crawls with characters like Warman, and that he's far from being an aberration.
Michael |
05.28.08 - 5:11 pm | #
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la shaidle ?....i read the young lady's letter was given to the CHRC AND warman....and they were both held to confidentiality of it's contents.....but is it true as you say HE wasn't given a copy and yet somehow obtained one ?
john begley |
05.29.08 - 5:08 am | #
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The sincerity of the letter is irrelevant here.
The point here is that the girl was assured that proceedings against her would cease if she expresed contrition in a letter that would remain confidential.
The issue is an abuse of process on the part of a government agency. The facts that the girl's safety was then apparently (allegedly) compomised in a malicious manner, and that subterfuge was used -- these compound the original alleged offence.
I hope this girl has a good lawyer and sues the hell out of Warman and the HRC.
As for her original alleged offences, many young people engage in anti-social behaviour, often to impress their peers. They usually grow out of it. I see no reason to stigmatize her now, especially when she was assured that she would be able to put her past behind her.
Also, there's no evidence that she ever did engage in any bad behaviour at all. To say that her "confession" could be insincere is true. It's equally possible that she never did anything in the first place (e.g. her friend could have used her computer) but just wrote the apology in order to avoid legal problems. Now that apology is being used to attack her.
Regardless of her original actions and her sincerity, she complied with the wishes of the HRC, and is now being punished for doing so.
Brian Akira |
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05.29.08 - 8:22 am | #
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Calumny or detraction?
If this girl's letter is sincere--she's suffering.
Enough.
Maureen |
05.29.08 - 8:39 pm | #
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Even the Bani Brith have given Riochard Warman an award.
http://www.jewishtribune.ca/trib...-050428-
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J Chapel |
05.30.08 - 1:14 pm | #
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I have awarded Lucy the Trudeaupia Jackboot Award but he hasn't accepted it yet. I even sent him an email asking for an acceptance message and his boot size. But he won't come out of his rat hole.
I guess he only likes to terrorize teen age girls, which is quite typical of the gender confused male, I'm told.
Richard, Lucy, Hitler's love child, whoever you think you are, seek professional help.
Guy Macher |
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05.30.08 - 8:41 pm | #
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Richard Warman realized there'd be no blood money from ms lampman so he settled for blood instead. How manly he must have felt while posting her genuine apology, it is for shame.
kelly |
05.30.08 - 9:22 pm | #
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Cryiing "neo-Nazi" has become a canard we've all seen used to stifle honest, timely issues about Muslims/Jews, immigration et al.
How many time have you seen MSM point to a 'neo-Nazi' site that has made a 'hurtful' statement about Judaism/Islam/immigration, then attach the 'neo-Nazi' label to people who are not participating in such a group but who have voiced legitimate concerns about selfsamesaid issues.
Labels are often irrelevent distractions. Unless you believe in selective free-speech ( contradiction) , then it's a handy tool of suppression.
Scott |
05.31.08 - 3:25 pm | #
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I've been involved in anti-fascist work for over 10 years, mostly in street confrontations against neo-nazi skinheads and in research and education about these extreme right-wing groups.
I knew Liz before and after she was peripherally involved in some right-wing websites, and can genuinely say her rejection of "white nationalism" was completely sincere.
I agree, btw, Warman should get sued.
George |
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07.27.08 - 12:51 am | #
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