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Since the morning after pill can prevent fertilization, did this study distinguish between preventing fertilization and killing babies?
Or, if they're the same, should I send a condolence card to all the women I know when they menstruate each month for the loss of their babies?
If the percentage of pregnancies is the same under both circumstances, then it is only logical to assume that the percentage of situations in which the morning after pill ends a human life is also the same.
Your flippant disregard for the sanctity of human life is very sad.
Well duh. It's the same pill, taken at the same time. This was a study about whether making the morning after pill OTC would lead to less condom use, and therefore more STDs (conclusion: probably).
But you didn't answer my question: is an unfertilized egg a "baby" that the MOP "kills"?
Mr P - it seems like all they care about is killing human life - but golly if it interferes with the natural process of fetilization what a swell bonus! And as a double bonus "Studies in New Zealand and the UK show the drug is associated with an increased risk of ectopic pregnancy, a potentially fatal complication." Terrific for the future of humankind!!!
According to the study:
Giving women packets of Plan B, a form of emergency contraception also known as the "morning after pill," did not lead to an increase in unprotected sex, an increase in pregnancy rates or cause women to forgo regular contraception, according to a study published today in the Journal of the American Medical Association.
The study revealed women with the greatest access to emergency contraception were more likely to use it, but that greater access *did not lead to changes in sexual behavior* that were statistically different from subjects whose access was more restricted.
Unprotected intercourse rates were similar among the women who had received advanced packets of emergency contraception (39.8 percent) and those who were told they could only come to the clinic (41 percent).
So, in fact, women who had MOPs on hand had higher rates of protected sex than did the women who had to go to the pharmacy. The risk of STDs do not go up with MOPs.
The main issue here, fellas, is access. It shouldn't be a struggle to get birth control. There is such inequity between erectile medicine (ususally covered by insurance and advertised on TV every 60 seconds) and birth control (when was the last time you saw a BC ad on TV - during prime time?). Having it available OTC makes it more available and could prevent thousands of abortions each year.
Now, you can't have it both ways...
>Morning After Pill kills as many babies whether prescribed or provided without a prescription.
I'm sure that coathangers would kill a lot of "babies," too. And coathangers don't need to be prescribed.
They'd likely also kill more than a few of the "Schangermutter."
I'm sorry, but you are more than a bit of an idiot. Some of us actually have experience in this regard. Unlike for you, it isn't a theoretical exercise.
Sorry, I misspelled it.
Schwangermutter
I'm not really up on the science of the MOP, but my (old) understanding was that it prevented the implantation of a fertilized egg in the utererus.
One's conclusions from the study depend on whether you consider a fertilized egg as human life. I seem to remember there was some arguement that you didn't have a pregnancy until you had implantation and if you didn't have a pregnancy you didn't have "life."
It seems to me that the point of the claim that making this an OTC drug would reduce abortions is that if it's OTC, then more women will use it and prevent unwanted pregnancies, thus reducing abortions. But if you assert that use of the MOP is "abortion" then by definition you probably increase abortions, since at least some of the unwanted pregnancies would have resulted in live births.
The morning after pill is a high dose of birth control pills. It works in exactly the same ways as a regular birth control pill: by inhibiting ovulation, disrupting egg and sperm transportation, and disrupting the uterine lining to prevent implantation. If you think MAP kills babies, I hope you feel just as strongly about standard hormonal birth control (and IUDs, which also prevent implantation).
I really wish that people did a simple Google search before ranting about how awful the prospect of wide MAP availability would be. The holocaust of fertilized eggs is already in progress in the uterus of every woman who takes Ortho Tricyclen! Oh, the humanity!
Amber
Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't trying to argue that MOP is abortion or killing babies, just kicking around the ideas as to why people can't ever agree on anything regarding abortion. And from what you say, it prevents even fertilization at least some of the time. In which case no one can argue that a baby was killed.
Amber,
They are equally evil and both end a human life (as does the destruction of embroys for research). And even though this holocast is currently taking place, that is no reason to expand it or make it easier to accomplish.
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