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OH Hell! Just Fitz me all night long!


Patrick, honey, we hardly know ye!


Please god, keep strip search sammy away from ms. O'beirne. The cosmic fabric may rip if the two meet.


Here's a copy of my review...let's see if it makes it.

"If I could give negative stars...."

"this book would get it. I got this as a gift from a friend, who is now a former friend. I can only assume this person must truly hate me in order to curse me with such a miserable piece of gibberish. I can't refer to this ... item as a book, much less literature, since it lacks the qualities one finds in "books" like meaningful concepts, ideas, or that most rare thing, facts.

Of course, just reading the title is enough to make one nauseous. Ms. Kate O'Beirne's claim that certain Women and Feminists are destroying the schools, families, the military, and sports is not an idea that could be conceived by someone with any grounding in reality or even a shred of intelligence. The book is devoid of any verifiable facts excepting, of course, that the women she attacks are indeed women. I guess we can give her that "fact."

I could go on, but quite frankly, even criticizing this book is a waste of time.

My advice: buy something else...or even better, save your money for a good meal. You will feel far better after a good burger than you would after reading this mess.

Now I'm off to burn this book, and find a good Gypsy curse to pay my "friend" back..."

-- Cross-posted at JG


OT, but this is one of the most inadvertently hilarious NY Times headlines I've seen in a long time:

Frog Killer Is Linked to Global Warming

And we all know who the world's most famous frog killer is, now don't we? Scroll down, Moses, to the money quote from the childhood friend:

''We were terrible to animals,'' recalled Mr. Throckmorton, laughing. A dip behind the Bush home turned into a small lake after a good rain, and thousands of frogs would come out.

''Everybody would get BB guns and shoot them,'' Mr. Throckmorton said. ''Or we'd put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.''


Aw, Katie, you're finally going to the prom! And you look so pretty in pink! I just hope the rest of the class doesn't go all "Carrie" on you!

Have a great time!! :)


Gosh Jane, isn't that how you dress?

And oh yeah,

BORK ALITO!


A BIG Salute to Gen. JC Christian for his patriotic attempt to assault the Amazon battlements! HHUUURRRRAAAA!!!!!

A friend of mine is a major Amazon stockholder. I'm gonna whine about this. Good excuse to get back in touch.


SoulCatcher -- that's hilarious.


On Fox yesterday during a break in the Alito hearings was Bush at one of his stage-managed appearances, this time in Kentucky, before a mass of brain-dead Rove puppets. Bush was manic, intense, and didn't hesitate to repeat the lies that Rove has written for him. That the wiretaps are legal because lawyers and even members of congress have "reviewed" and commented on them, etc.

The best thing--in my Liberally biased view--is that this morning neither the NYT nor the WaPo ran a story on the speech.

But it's not so good after all, now that I think of it. I was hoping that some newshound would nail Bush on his lies. And on the fact that the event was billed as completely open, complete with "tough" questions from an impartial audience.

Depressing.


siun,

re the previous thread.

thanks for being concerned. I'm not worried 'cause I don't break any laws and I'm a strict constructionalist.


SoulCatcher - your's is up now ... wonderful!

personally, I always confuse her with that blonde guy who lived in OJ's shed ...

g'nite all!


phew Edward - I was afraid you might be one of those activist composers!

off to sleep now - it's way later in Chitown than in AK ... I need to move to a better time zone!


Jane, Siun, thanks!

Alas, I don't think it's my best effort though. After I posted it, I realized that I could have put in some nicer touches like blaming terrorists and Enron for destroying our schools, sports, etc.

Also, I probably should have put in an extra touch about the burger being loaded with fat which might cause an early death that STILL might be preferable to reading that book.

Oh well...it must have been my inner Frenchman interfering with my normal thought processes...


Bloggy classic, meet Captain Beefheart:

Fast goes fast
Slow goes slow
Alright now, do the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo
Now do the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo

Like that girl standing on the corner
Trying to get a ride to the other side
When way down underneath
All she had to do was move her pretty feet
And do the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo

Alright baby, do your Low Yo Yo with all your stuff
Now, baby, do your Low Yo Yo Stuff
Now, baby, it's in your being
Whether you're long, tall, short or skinny
Sometimes it's rough
You mean to tell me it's that Low Yo Yo Stuff?
Low Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo Yo
Fast goes fast
Slow goes slow
Low Yo Yo Yo Yo

Like that girl standing on the corner
Trying to get a ride to the other side
When way down underneath
All she had to do was move her pretty feet
And do the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo

What if my girlfriend back home
Finds out what my fingers have been doing
On my guitar since I been gone?
Don't anybody tell her,
I been doing the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo
Like any other fella
Away from home, all alone
Been doing that Low Yo Yo Yo Yo
Ya, I been really carrying on!

Fast goes fast
Slow goes slow
Rich are rich and the po' are po'
Everybody's doing the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo
Everybody's doing it
Deep down everybody knows they should
Do the Low Yo Yo Yo Yo


Next song: "Nowadays a Woman's Gotta Hit a Man


Just heard ReddHedd on AAR. Great comments and cute voice. ;)


I've been tardy in commenting about how beyond any other political web site firedoglake is at picking a graphic header. I just wish the resolution for downloads was a bit higher.

I've been downloading pictures of recent volcanic eruptions in our vicinity for my wife's 5th grade class. Mt. Augustine erupted just after 0400 this morning. It is the beginning of a sequence the uppermost volcanoes of the Aleutian Range go through periodically - Augustine, Redoubt, Spurr. It lasts about three to seven years.

My wife saves old pantyhose so we can put a couple layers of them over the air filters on our cars while there is ash in the air.

I'm predicting this cascade of eruptions will be more severe than those of nineteen to fifteen years ago. The earth is slighly warmer.


When Wolfie Blitzer talked about the Preznit's speech, he referred to Bush "going to the battleground..." and I immediately thought that was craven -- handpicked audience in Kentucky a battleground. Ha!

But later I heard that this Cong District has a fighting Dem -- whose name I don't recall. But Rove must have something nasty planned for ALL the fighting Dems if he's letting W out to audiences where fighting Dems (vets running to challenge gooper incumbents) are running.

Hope those SBVFT guys don't resurface in 2006 and we get a bunch more Saxby Chamblisses because veterans' service gets questioned.


A bit 'fitztrated' this evening. Where's the justice? I must go see my friend who argued a 'Brown vs Brown' at the Scotus some years back and prevailed. He's most certainly boiling at this point and needs to vent. The 'Big Picture' really implies 'nature bats last' and the pacific rim is a large part of that. The Middle Sister is bulging locally and Mt. St. Helens continues to belch. Gaia the ultimate umpire. Goodnight all.


G'night Gaia


Billmon has surfaced with a rather detailed deconstruction of the bipartisan Abramhoff myth. Enjoy:

http://billmon.org/archives/002351.html


That image is funny and all, but now I ain't sleeping tonight.


Date a Star!


This is entertaining, have to admit. But at the same time I have to wonder at how easily "people" like O'Beirne are able to manipulate our best and brightest into attack mode, where they dutifully supply the controversy needed to market these noxious wares.

This character O'Beirne, and Ann Coulter, John Gibson, O'Reilly and others specialize in the contrived incendiary statement, the comment that raises hackles and sets the otherwise intelligent progressives on the war path, painted and whooping like matinee Indians.

It's pretty obvious these people are equivalent to "comment trolls" -- blog readers who post "outrageous" statements or vicious personal slams against fellow readers or the personages those readers esteem. It's a game, and who knows what they really think? The comment troll is only interesting in scoring, and his score is the number of outraged responses.

Everyone know this, no? And yet here is the blogging elite dutifully taking pundit troll Kate O'Beirne's bait, feeding the controversy, dragging (Amazon!) censorship into the mix, ladling on the personal assaults and ambiguous threatening street oaths (the bitch is dead meat), which in turn beget more outraged reactions, this time from the other side, and with any luck the msm will pick it up and run the blogger brouhaha story and guess what. Katie Sells Books! And BloggerX Gets Mentioned on CNN or in the WaPo!

Fifteen years or so ago Noam Chomsky wrote about the web of interlocking interests (access, credibility, story-flow requirements) that have the effect of 'normalizing' news, of coopting journalists to the ruling party line. In short, of breeding the kind of corrupt journalism peddled by the likes of Martin, Woodward, et al. I have marveled at the blogging community and particularly the writers here -- and the diligence and intelligence with which they, unfettered by the web of recursive self-interest of their traditional media counterparts, cut through the right wing and administration malarkey like a hot Ginsu through butter.

But then, I see these same heroic writers rear up like trained bears when an attention junkie like O'Beirne or Coulter strings a few grating syllables together - in exactly the same way that a gullible commenter takes umbrage at the stink bombs lobbed by snickering, anonymous comment trolls. And I wonder...is this the functional equivalent of the tradmedia web of complicity, a web so subtle and effective (as Chomsky has observed) that even those stenographers ensnared in it believe themselves to be high-functioning professionals worthy of awards?

In the new, nonTradMedia version the complicity is between right and left, and is founded on mutually assured denunciation. The reward for this complicity is controversy and its idiot half-brother, publicity.

Like I said, it's entertaining. Or maybe I should say diverting. Like a dancing chicken is diverting, or better yet, like a soap operatic, shirtless domestic smackdown in a trailer park on COPS is diverting.

But my two cents?

This is a slippery slope...

- Ron


Ron,

Good observations.


Kate is the Third Sex.


Thanks Ron.

No doubt you are right. But should we stick to an absolute no fun rule, or could you let us slide for, say, half-an-hour on alternate Tuesdays?


Ron, I made a similar point two days ago (I wrote that Jane shouldn't dignify this crap with her apoplexy), but am rethinking.

Hate-list books like O'Beirne's, Bernard Goldberg's, and especially Ann Coulter's are the leading edge of something ugly and scary and are softening up the public discourse for increasingly eliminationist rhetoric.

Nazi antisemitism was a ludicrous distraction too, at the start, barely worth the energy to ridicule, much less refute.

The principal target needs to the media who give these scapegoaters the time of day -- from Time putting Coulter on its cover to the endless cable interviews with O'Beirne and Goldberg. The utter lack of shame and judgment by major media scares me far more than the pipsqueak wingers to whom they give a platform.

People of common sense and good will need to be able to do two things at once: smack down the scapegoaters and their media enablers while keeping our eye on the real ball of the Bush administration's fascist power grab.


Sorry 'needs to BE the media'


Something else about the media "elites." We need to point out somehow how rare and priveliged they are. I mean, how many of us make the money that Soledad O'Brien or Wolf Blitzer make? What are the statistics on media elitism? How much money is there silence worth? They take our national dialogue and turn it into "he said she said" BS and not once mention the fact that someone lied in the hearings yesterday. At some point we're going to have to get the pitchforks out and take over the studios.

Soledad's comment on the extremely warm weather throughout the country this morning was (paraphrasing) "I don't care what anyone says, I just love this warm January weather." It would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic. SIGH.


Um, that should be "their" and not "there." I knew that.


What's the big deal about Katie O'Beirnes 'Women Who Make The World Worse'?

I mean, it's an autobiography, isn't it?
.


Way OT---to Mrs. K8

On some thread yesterday you mentioned a Harlow-Gable movie with a lot of unusual plot features. It's called Hold Your Man, 1933 (just before the Code put an end a lot of good storytelling). TCM's championing of movies like that is almost enough to make me forgive the way they ran AMC, and most any other competition, to the ground by sitting on their licenses.


....just on more thing....I think Jane's right to marginalize them. They've been successfully marginalizing us for the last 25 years. It's high time we fought back. Our representation isn't doing it for us.

It's ok for their nutballs to accuse the first lady of the US of murdering her best friend after he commits suicide, start an investigation over it that has a crazy Indiana Congresscritter shooting watermelons in his backyard but we can't come back at them with a little vicious satire? I don't think so.


Ron, it's a valid point. An attack on O'Beirne raises her profile and she sells more books.

But doesn't this cut the other way as well?

By demonizing Sarah Jessica Parker (?!) O'Beirne boosts interest in "Sex And The City" re-runs.

Attacking Hillary from the right plays into Clinton's triangulation strategy.

To call Germaine Greer (an all-time brainy-beauty, in my book) "homely" only draws attention to O'Beirne's decided ugliness.

For ad hominem to be effective it needs to be funny and have an element of truth.

Kate O'Beirne isn't funny. Ann Coulter thinks of herself as funny -- but she never met a flat-out lie she didn't like.
--


Kate parses "Stand By Your Man"

Sometimes its hard to be a woman

Here, Tammy teaches us not to complain when it's soft. Not everyone of us can have it hard.

Giving all your love to just one man

Though Tammy does not explicitly say so, "all your love" does not mean nasty things like what Monica did to that horrid man Clinton.

You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand


Why should what he does be any different from everything else in our lives.

But if you love him you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand


Particularly when he's drunk and violent. But don't be thinking about doing anything but taking it...wherever he wants to give it to you.

And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely


That kind of sums it up. You can also read my column in the National Review if you get bored.

Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man


Use lubricant if necessary. But don't tell him.

Stand by your man


Kate,

I really really like your book. I do have two questions though, regarding the inflatable burka you kindly attached to the inside cover of your book........

I know that black is always correct for family events, sports and everyday school functions, but here are my questions, Kate.......

Is it available in pink for promwear?

Besides the cutouts for eyes, can I order one with cutouts at the throat to avail my date a view of my pearl necklace?


Incidentally, I believe that I have read somewhere that Hillary was a major fox in Law School.

In addition, and a point that bears making emphatically, Bill Clinton is catnip to women. He is magnetic. Marlon Brando category.

And Bill scored Hillary and married her. I guess that makes her really ugly.

There are more women in the United States who want to be married to Bill Clinton than there are who want to be Kate.


Slightly OT.

It now turns out that birth control pills are proven to diminish sex drive.

It is well-established that modern anti-depressants like Prozac and Zoloft reduce sex-drive through a parallel, different mechanism.

So if you're single, 30 years old, living in the city, taking Zoloft and bcp, it would seem to me that the chances of your fucking your brains out are sky high. Nothing like utter frustration to make you want to fuck.

On the other hand, the James Bond myth goes down the tubes. No turning Pussy Galore into a heterosexual explosion if she's taking bcp and Zoloft. Can't be done.

A recipe for seeking Jesus, I would say.


ralphbon, I have been thinking the hate-sters on the right have been using language directly analogous to racist speech for a while. It is a political racism, conveniently coded red and blue no less. Of course, it is not directly analogous and to say it is just like other modes of racism is irresponsible. But it trafficks in the same tropes, the same iconography, etc. It is bigotry against a class of people who have no defining physical features yet who apparently an innately and contradictoraly: cunning, vicious, stupid, clownish, tireless, lazy, inhuman, childish, and on and on.

People like O'Beirne fancy the left, and for her especially feminists, as a species deserving of scorn, hectoring, and no doubt no protection under the law. It is a form of racist speech, or rather a kind of speech that borrows a lot of the tricks and turns of racist speech.


My son has Asperger's,it's a form of autism.One thing though,none of the Asperger's kids or young adults I know are mean spirited.Nor do they spend inordinate amounts of time attacking people.Autistic people might be withdrawn sometimes(or alot depending),but one thing they are not is purposely mean.

I wonder sometimes if women like Kate fear losing their husbands or boyfriends to some hussy at work and that's what's behind all this hostility to other women.Many affairs start on the job,it's often the only social outlet people have outside their home life.


I posted this in Max's comments, but since you are the person people read, I'm posting it here.

Many who are commenting here know me and know I appreciate satire, especially toward the likes of Kate O'Rovebait, but I have a child with asperger's syndrome and one outstanding feature of ppl with this mental disability is that they are so naive and trusting of other people.

They don't have the defenses of someone who could put bitch as a job description on her resume.

They also tend to be exceptionally gifted in at least one area of study, but can have a hard time applying this in the wider world because of their inability to read and respond to social cues. My son speaks and reads French, German and Dutch and started reading English when he was three. He has a near photographic memory.

Yet he is unable to drive a car because the outside stimuli is overwhelming. He knows enough to know he is different than others, and wishes more than anything to be like everyone else so that he can ask a girl out on a date. He cries about this sometimes. The "kate at the prom" extended to a real soul crusher for my child via the asperger's comparison seemed cruel to me, not funny.

Asperger's Syndrome is sometimes called high-functiong autism because everyone knows autism and its manifestations as SEVERE isolation. Often ppl with autism also have some form of mental retardation, whether mild or severe. This is not the case with aspergers.

I write this because ppl with aspergers are so kind, they should never be confused with O'Beirne, and because peers of children with aspergers can be so cruel. I don't think adults should perpetuate this.

I realize Max was trying to be funny, and people in my situation find it hard to see the humor in using a permanant mental disability in their child as a source of ridicule since it happens in real life too often.

Maybe Max should have compared her to someone with downs syndrome. That would have been a real hoot.


You Man Hating Hippies - It's all about the 'Dates'!


http://www.boardgamegeek.com/ima...om/image/ 100259


There's a special place in the DSM-IV, as well as in hell, for most of our most cherished fascist friends, and we're probably best off not second-guessing the appropriate diagnosis or impending temperature.


If Jane's excerpts of the book review are characteristic of the whole review, why did Amazon censure it? What was their justification?

Were administration officials sticking there noses in this too? No wonder the Iraq situation is so bad. They are too busy creating theatre (at the Alito hearings) and engaging in gossip to manage a war.


The review is up as of 6:25am Mountain Time. It has not apparently been censured yet.


"...finding bona fide boobies repulsive..."

Oh my. That is one sick and annoying man.


Hate to get off subject, but I put up the 1918 hit K-K-K-Katy yesterday on a previous thread. So for you late-thread early risers, The Hollywood Liberal might give you a kick. Read the photo cartoon and then scroll down to "George Bush thinks errr, ah, errr, That Alito is Qualified for the Supreme Court" (Windows .wmv file). The Preznit just had a coupla drinks with Sam, an' he could see how dignified, shh, he is.

The video "Jack Abramoff Loves Tom Delay" is also worth seeing. Nick Lampson should use it in his campaign.


sorry to change topic

I heard on the Jane meadow show this morning that a Democratic candidate for some seat was approached about what the president said concerning criticizing his decisions about the war in Iraq

I didn't get who that candidate was, and his answer was OK, mediocre about the founders of the country disagreeing with the president

it hit me, and Epiphany

the democrats have to take that statement and do something along the lines;

"any president that has the audacity to disagree with the founders of this nation needs to take a lesson in the history that founded this country

making statements like that is one of the most unpatriotic statements I have ever heard a president make in any era"

the second paragraph is good enough, but the first one goes a long way

/i need to do some research to find out which other presidents have made similar statements and be ready with a defense of the statement that would invoke previous administrations doing the same thing


Censor, not censure. To censure is to scold someone for doing something (allegedly) wrong. If you wish, a verbal whipping.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt in 1918.
--


fauxreal,

am wid ya - As I began to read the link, I was struck by 2 things -

The writer's familiarity with the condition - you've probably never heard of it unless you are a member of the medical/therapeutic community, or a family living with it

and

Oh crap, this is gonna hurt somebody. Anecdotal reporting reflects a disproportionate number of cases in affluent, highly educated families, you know, the kind that read blogs.

so yeah, it was clever but am sorry it hurt.

you did the Asperger community proud w/ your comments - highly informative. As the mom of 3 boys - 2 ADHD and 1 'Bucket Boy'
(just enough from every bucket but Fragile X) nothing beats information/explanation to help smooth our child's way in the world - and your poignant but dead on advocacy reflects the best in that

Btw, there's something emerging out there called Non Verbal Learning disorder. Not just as a symptom or manifestation of other conditions. Your comments reflect someone highly informed and way out in front on what you are living with. I mention NLD in the event you're not familiar and may want ot take a peek as it has provided our family with some of the most practical tips in helping our youngest.

Sounds like your boy is in the grip of adolescence - a time that seemed to exacerbate everything about their challenges. It was difficult to remember at times that all kids want to be like everyone else and that some of what my boys were dealing with had more to do w/their age than their conditions.

Again, a beautiful comment on behalf of what sounds like a delightful child.


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theodore Roosevelt in 1918.
--
Cliff Varnell


nice quote, that's my point, but the democrats have to start turning the tables

our representatives have to take statements like those this president made and call them unpatriotic

I don't have access to our reps, I know people like jane and redd do...people like randi rhodes, these people have the ear of some of our representatives

they have to contact them and let them know the war of words is an important war to win.

the war if ideals will fail if we don't win the war of words

I want these representatives to call this presidents statements "unpatriotic", I want them to use that word

I want them to use that word when ever a conversation arises about warantless searches of American citisens

I want them to use that word when they talk about just about everything this president had done to our national sercurity


That pink dress is the very epitome of froo-froo, isn't it?


Ron Martinez | Homepage | 01.12.06 - 1:16 am

Interesting comments; I'd like to think we're not responding like trained bears, but I see your point.

Let me point out these identifying characteristics:

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

[snip]

5. Rampant Sexism

The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media

Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.


sound familiar? These are from Lawrence Britt's "Fourteen points to Fascism", the result of his study of fascist societies. Given these points, it's pretty clear to me that O'Beirne is being encouraged by Straussian elements acting under point 6 as a proponent of points 3 and 5. It's her job to clearly delineate "us" as THE OTHER, her job to paint feminism as an evil.

What is it that the Germans failed to do seventy years ago? what should they have done to suffocate the Third Reich in its earliest days? Do we have a critical mass of people and resources to be able to act powerfully and constructively, in such a way that we do not appear to be little more than reactionary "trained bears"?

Kerry's response to SwiftBoating was an example of what not to do in the face of those who would take and keep power at all costs. Dean's (and Deaniacs like me) were ill-prepared to deal with the assault of an organized corporate media. We must act differently, get inside the decision process the right uses and execute tightly. We cannot continue to bring knives or barefists to gun fights and expect to win.

I think of the event that the Senate hearings on Alito skirted around -- the firebombing of ROTC's office on Princeton's campus -- as well as the other protests of the 60's and 70's against the Vietnam War. I take note that the President seeks to criminalize protests as "disruptive". There must be a more effective and less violent method to rebel against the right, implemented before the right makes all dissent illegal. If marginalizing verbal and literary firebombers like O'Beirne is one way, we'll do it. But we must be prepared to do more short of violence; our democracy increasingly depends on it.


somewhere somebody described some video of Bush hawking up and spitting on the White House lawn. When did that happen?

THAT is the regime seme !!!!

Where is that footage? What happened to it? Did it get memory holed? If so, what was the process?


Ok, Back To Our Dear Kate,

Pretty damn lazy - 30 year ol backlash pap. What, did Marabel Morgan write the Forward ?!!

At least Pagilia evinces some intellectual heft when she pisses me off.

Am willing to bet a coupla months mortgage payments some industrious little 'Googler' could demonstrate a consistent pattern of 'casual plagiarism', if not straight up theft - "Your Honor, It seems my client was merely 'inspired' by the plantiff's work "


sorry, 'Paglia'


Paglia? She suffers from a variation of the Political DSM-I condition, galloping garrulity AKA progressive prolixity (analogous verbally to horror vacui, but paradoxically vacuous).


Rayne, as always, well said.

I did get a chuckle out of Ron's "matinee Indians", I'll have to use that myself sometime.


The General's review of Kate's book is on Amazon now, fyi.


THAT is the regime seme !!!!

RJJ | 01.12.06 - 6:50 am | #


Just wondering if there is an N missing before the exclamation points
(sorry, crass and tacky)


Incidentally, I believe that I have read somewhere that Hillary was a major fox in Law School.

arbogast | 01.12.06 - 4:20 am | #
_________________________

Actually, she was pretty dorky looking. Huge thick dark rimmed glasses. Frizzy, hair - no makeup. Which is all just fine and certainly of that era. Just not what I think would be considered "foxy" (Besides, I don't think being a "fox" was anything she aspired to.) Hair stylists, makeup artists, fashion consultants and personal trainers have become part of the retinue much later in life.


HRC is going for the Emma Thompson look these days.


To Ms O'Beirne:
I think the world would be a better place if people could graduate from High School and leave the High School shit behind. Jeebus, Kate, you're still crowing over having scored a prom date? How old are you? Get. A. Life.


I take it that DMS is a pun combining DMS (diagnostic and statistical manual) with PMS -- or a type. Aperger's syndrome is the subject of an absolutely must read novel "The Curious case of the Dog in the Night Time" by Mark Haddon.

If amazon.com hadn't censored the General, I wouldn't have censored this url

http://www.WANKERS.com/
gp/product/1400032717/sr=1-3/
qid=1137112372/ref=sr_1_3/
104-6833540-1114300?
%5Fencoding=UTF8

Still I don't see why anyone is surprised that Amazon.com got their greeves in a bundle over someone joking about women warriors.


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