Johnson , Tim D (202) 224-5842
california_reality_check |
01.30.06 - 12:34 pm | #
This post just proves that Aravosis is right. Not only are our Senators worthless, but groups like Naral don't fight when it counts. I don't follow groups like Naral closely, but it appears to me that they are more interested in fundraising than actually doing anything.
marky |
01.30.06 - 12:36 pm | #
Man, you guys are quick..
Uncle $cam |
01.30.06 - 12:36 pm | #
Hey, the Sierra Club endorses Snow and Collins. There must be something in the DC water that is specific to turning the brains of white people into rancid blubber.
citizen k |
01.30.06 - 12:38 pm | #
Unbelievable.
Planned parenthood is all over it though. I suggest any money go to them from now on.
Urban Pirate |
01.30.06 - 12:39 pm | #
Here's my question; where the hell is the physical protest? All this calling and faxing is nice, but where the hell is the million person march, descending on the capital to make sure the filibuster is supported? Its not like these organizations did not have the time, or the resources to put together something like this, but if people really care about this issue, they should be clogging the streets of DC in protest right now, and not making a few phone calls.
I don't balme individuals; I blame NOW, NARAL, and Planned Parenthood, etc. This is their defining moment; this is the moment that others will look back on and say, hey this is when everything went wrong.
And you know what? They are standing around with their hands in their pockets.
In South America, when the governmnet tries to raise the bus fare by 25% they take over the capital building and kick out the legislature.
Here, they want to appoint a Supreme Court Justice that WILL reverse the legacy that they are supposedly trying to protect, and where the hell is the leadership and protest from NARAL and NOW?
The truth is, they have used this issue as a boogeyman for so long to get democracts elected that they never thought about what to do when the boogeyman actually showed up.
Well, BOO! The boogeyman is here, and is set to be confirmed in about an hour unless a miracle happens.
Concerned Anarchist |
01.30.06 - 12:40 pm | #
I just called and said how disappointed I was in NARAL for their continued support of Chaffee. I mentioned that NARAL had supported Chaffee over two pro-choice Democrats. The woman who took my call said, "Thank you for your comments." I said, "I hope you pass them on." She replied, "I record all calls."
When NARAL is outlawed, maybe she can get a job with the administration.
Chicken Little |
01.30.06 - 12:40 pm | #
Sen. Kennedy is on the ed shultz show here in the northwest if anyone is interested...
Uncle $cam |
01.30.06 - 12:40 pm | #
Dear Senator Hatch --
I am not a member of a "disinformation campaign", in spite of your comments otherwise. I am a citizen of the United States who is fighting for the Constitution.
There is a difference.
You, sir, are part of disinformation campaign; your role in the Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on the confirmation of Judge Alito were mere formalities of acquiesence.
I plan to send money to whatever Democrat will run against you because you are little more than a meat puppet for this presidency.
Tweety is going to suck Tom Delays cock tonight on national TeeVee at 7pm ET. Either get your handlotion OR giant barfbag ready...
chacun a son gout !
Wilson46201 |
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01.30.06 - 12:41 pm | #
Frankly, I think NARAL has been pretty ineffective for years now. It is becoming more and more clear that Roe v Wade is going to be overturned. What's the backup plan? Has there been any push to pass a US Constitutional Amendment backing choice? Any push to do the same in state Constitutions? Nope. They seem to have no strategy at all other than back Roe at all costs, and they've just dropped that one. The fact of the matter is that the right wing has been effectively eroding abortion rights for decades, primarily by targeting abortion providers. Planned Parenthood stands up to them and is, in a very real sense, on the front lines. They are far more deserving of your money than a so-called "action" league that doesn't take action when the chips are down.
Frank Probst |
01.30.06 - 12:42 pm | #
Agreed. How depressing. Special Interest Groups have lost their cache with me - years ago.
At the end of each year I would assess my success and send off a check(s) to different groups - Feminist Majority Foundation was one. After the "Gingrich Revolution" and the republicans threat to defund the Left I didn't receive my membership donation pledge that year, curious and wanting to send the $250 I called their Arlington, VA office and spoke with someone in fund raising and told them I had the check all made out could the send my membership pledge card - never heard from them.
The number of women in congress is a statement in and of itself as to their and similar groups effectiveness - shame - 'cause I wanted to help - they lost me. Now I support individual candidates.
Everything you said Jane is true. We are so unorganized on our side. The republicans have a plan - shit that it is - and they stick to it - what me worry? Heck of a job! How sad.
der |
01.30.06 - 12:42 pm | #
what we need is get Dems elected and then go after Bush like they went after Bill Clinton. No Bush and no control of the repubs and bush gets to put nobody else on any court.
bygraves |
01.30.06 - 12:43 pm | #
OK, I'll be neeing some eye bleach now.....
roxtar |
01.30.06 - 12:43 pm | #
I've done some volunteer work for Pro-Choice Colorado (local NARAL) but no more -- they typify the worst examples of the brain dead Lefty special interest groups.
Earth to NARAL -- anyone with an (R) behind their name is ANTI-WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
A Pro-Choice GOoPer is all talk, no action; as soon as you get off knees, they will only remember you long enough to note their conquest on the bathroom wall -- for a good time, call 1-800-NARAL.
I know that this wasn't Janes point but I think the fact that the fight to filibuster Alito is springing up from the blogs (i.e. the grassroots) and not from the established interest groups is a good thing. We have relied on interest groups and the associated Washington DC establishment for too long. This fight isn't about special interests, it is about what we believe in. In the days ahead we need to be vigilant that the press doesn't frame this as a case where once again the Dems were captives of special interests. This fight to stop Alito is not a special interest group operation. It comes from the ordinary people who form the base of the democratic party.
Alvord |
01.30.06 - 12:45 pm | #
call Johnson's office - the line is open and they sound obnoxious so kill 'em with kindness but get the message across - they are saying he will not support filibuster - (202) 224-5842
and keep on Byrd - his staffer said they were still studying the situation - give him the teary constitution talk - sheesh, I said he had always been one of my heros ... go for it!
siun |
01.30.06 - 12:45 pm | #
Nelson's staffer - again got right thru - said he is voting "for alito tomorrow" and that he would convey my displeasure and then hung up on me ...
call and make their lives miserable - but nicely!
I didn't yell or fuss but I did say I would then be supporting Nelson's opponents in all future elections
siun |
01.30.06 - 12:47 pm | #
Hatch is so greasy he should be declared a fire hazard.
citizen k |
01.30.06 - 12:48 pm | #
Very, very disappointed in NARAL. Actually, in recent years their spokeswomen have been a total disaster.
Thanks. this current fight will expose all the weakwilled dems. And we will not forget.
People will not remember what words are spoken in this debate, but the country will long remember the consequences of Alito on the bench. All of our rights are now in question.
And Byrd is no longer my knight in shining armor -- and he can give all the barnburning speeches he wants in the Senate, but I know where his heart lies. And it lies not with the women and minorities of this country.
How can he willfully ignore what Alito and Bush want to do to our constitution? Money? Old Allegiance to conservative principles?
GrandmaJ |
01.30.06 - 12:48 pm | #
I telephoned Sen. Byrd's DC ofc. 'Told them that the people who'd promoted Alito thruout his careetrare not the people that would have supported Sen. Byrd.
D.F.Facti (cosmic rays) |
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01.30.06 - 12:50 pm | #
Democratic groups (NARAL, AFL-CIO and the individual unions) have gotten adept at "keeping the skeer up" to keep the money coming in. Ditto the pols.
They have counted on some degree of moderation to keep events from getting out of hand, and grew complacent and flabby.
Now, moderation is out the window, and the folks at the top of the Democratic groups have gone quisling on us, for fear of losing their position.
As Jefferson foresaw, it is time for citizens to put things right.
Do NOT gave a dime, or a minute of your time, to any pol or group that is not currently and actively representing your interests.
We could get better results putting FDL on the payroll than donating to NARAL.
diogenes |
01.30.06 - 12:50 pm | #
Troll
IP 68.206.76.54
missBillI |
01.30.06 - 12:52 pm | #
What we're seeing in all these so-called liberal groups are 2nd or 3rd generation leaders who were not at the barricades so to speak and they have never known what it is to have to fight and persevere. They inherited the mantle, and it shows.
D.F.Facti (cosmic rays) |
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01.30.06 - 12:56 pm | #
Shorter missBillI --
I love the smell of Cheetos in my Wing Nut Central Cubicle on a Monday!!!
ck |
01.30.06 - 12:56 pm | #
Dear NARAL,
Please take me off your mailing list.
If Lincoln Chafee can vote for cloture and get a pass from NARAL, you have seriously let women down. What was all that fundraising for, if you drop the ball right before the whistle?
Alito will send women back to the Dark Ages, which I am old enough to remember.
Sincerely,
Susan in Iowa |
01.30.06 - 12:56 pm | #
missBillI
Is that really the best name for a Troll who calls other people "girly men"?
Alvord |
01.30.06 - 12:56 pm | #
I'm puzzled by that "girly man" reference because Ken Mehlman has not been here, I don't think.
citizen k |
01.30.06 - 12:56 pm | #
called Naral - they were on voicemail - said I expected them to use the money we give them to do something - while we were fighting, they were "action expired" and so will be any future donations from me.
Wow - NARAL's got balls to not back off of supporting Chafee. I guess it's a statement of how insulated from grassroots stuff NARAL feels it is.
Even AARP gave a bit of a mea culpa for supporting gw's medicare crap...
Too bad no one'll put pressure on NARAL to act according to its mission...
cdj |
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01.30.06 - 12:59 pm | #
Oh, how about a real good trexin' for missBillI | 01.30.06 - 12:52 pm | #? He might really enjoy it and laugh even more.
Delphyne |
01.30.06 - 12:59 pm | #
Dear Senator Brownback:
How is it that a jurist whom you believe can cite and discuss any SCOTUS case over the last 30 years in depth cannot recall how or why he joined a racist and misogynist club?
Just sayin'.
By the way, the hair dye. Nasty. Makes you look cheaper than you already are.
I went to NARAL's action page earlier today and couldn't believe they had closed the effort days before the vote. I have just written to say I will only donate to organizations who are interested in earning my donation, not just spending it in Washington. What a huge disappointment.
zennurse |
01.30.06 - 12:59 pm | #
girly man like Kobe of Arizona? or Foley of Florida? or Dreier of Calif? or ... Lindsey Graham isn't exactly the butchest thing in the ring either !
Wilson46201 |
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01.30.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Just got a very snotty "thank you" from NARAL and I think she hung up on me.
Over the years I've given lots of money to NARAL. But I decided even before this not to do so any longer.
Frankly, the money they ask for should now go to ways to go AROUND the law...transporting women, making prescriptions to emergency contraception available (even if it's regular pills taken as directed to be like a morning after pill)....
'Planned Parenthood at least does something for women in the form of healthcare, etc.
NARAL should come down off their ivory tower and get their hands dirty and do something useful. How about getting women in Mississippi bussed over to a blue state for an abortion if they can't get it now, for example?
This is the way I want all the groups to go--PP, NOW, NARAL--into the nitty gritty of actually serving women's needs. The courts are gone--we need plans to get out the information and put in place the networks for transport, temporary housing, etc. involved in providing access to safe abortion for all women. And, laying in supplies of birtch control pills and getting the info out on "day after" instructions.
Gloria |
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01.30.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Conrad is yes to Alito.
california_reality_check |
01.30.06 - 1:00 pm | #
Reid is up again at 4pm and Frist at 415pm ET.
Frist has to corral 60 live, actual voting Senators at 430pm to shut off debate...
Wilson46201 |
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01.30.06 - 1:03 pm | #
I can't believe that. Talk about dropping the ball in a major way. Naral sure as hell won't be getting any more of MY money!
Stu |
01.30.06 - 1:04 pm | #
Gotta admit... Brownback is a sleaze, but he's a good speaker.
Dr. Bong |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
I wrote to NARAL via the feedback form - I used to give to them, but will redirect my money to Planned Parenthood. Thanks for the info, Jane.
Delphyne |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
Just called NARAL, had them record my complaint.
We haven't clogged their network yet so not enough people are calling!
Robert |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
Kerry speaking on the floor now
KCarlisle |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
ALL NEW MEXICANS CALL BINGAMAN NOW
All I've gotten all day is that B. opposes fillibuster, but I just called the DC office (despairing, to promise that I would never vote for B. again) but staffer who answers phone says that B. is UNDECIDED!!!! Get calling!! and call every Dem you know and make them call too!
Sara Anne |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
how did kerry jump into Reid's slot?
a |
01.30.06 - 1:05 pm | #
I have been a long time active supporter of NRAL, l just told them if they do not withdraw support from Chaffee, I am gone.
I called Byrd, could not get through, called Kennedy and expressed my deep thanks.
Been calling and writing all week.
I do think some marches by pro-choice groups should have been done. I had been focused on the Executive Privilege issue in most of my correspondence.
flynch |
01.30.06 - 1:06 pm | #
Delphyne --
That's a good point; folks should tell NARAL how they will be redirecting their money.
I haven't been following these matters as closely as I should -- can it be said that Planned Parenthood hasn't pulled anything as bone-headed as NARAL has lately?
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:07 pm | #
Rayne, you are ON FIRE!! Excellent messages you're sending and I'm right behind you with the same indignation. Let's let them have it. All that smugness is just too ripe for a fall.
meta |
01.30.06 - 1:07 pm | #
Slightly off topic here, but am I the only one that thinks Ed Schultz (LIVE! from the Heartland) is a bit of a phony?
He had Conrad on Friday and he stated then that he was going to support Alito and Big Goofy Eddie was a-okie dokie with it. He also ripped Howard Dean live in what I thought was a sneak attack. This guy smells like DNC/DLC money.
Jay |
01.30.06 - 1:07 pm | #
Dems for Alito.
Byrd, Robert D (202)224-3954
Nelson, Ben D (202)224-6551 (202)228-0012
Johnson , Tim D (202) 224-5842
Conrad, Kent D (202) 224-2043
california_reality_check |
01.30.06 - 1:07 pm | #
Come on folks...NARL has made themselves irrelevant and we ken still beat Chafee without 'em...but more importantly, we ken beat cloture too but we gotta keep the eyes on the prize and brankrupt the special interest groups later.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!!
NorskeFlamethrower |
01.30.06 - 1:08 pm | #
maybe Kerry is planning to talk and talk and talk and talk and ....
Wilson46201 |
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01.30.06 - 1:08 pm | #
Just called NARAL. They're feeling the heat. Told them that they need to call Chafee's cellphone and tell him he must vote NO on cloture or lose support.
"Hey, the Sierra Club endorses Snow and Collins. There must be something in the DC water that is specific to turning the brains of white people into rancid blubber.
citizen k | 01.30.06 - 12:38 pm | #"
1. It's not limited to white people
2. That's why we double filter the water in our house.
But it doesn't seem to help, I think it's actually in the air.
hmm |
01.30.06 - 1:12 pm | #
I did it, I sent my protest e-mail to NARAL. What are they thinking!?
trblmkr |
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01.30.06 - 1:12 pm | #
Jay,
Big Ed is as phoney as it comes...he is the Joe Lieberman of Air America but he has about as much influence as Joementum so don't sweat the small stuff, just...
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION!!
NorskeFlamethrower |
01.30.06 - 1:12 pm | #
Here's another indication of how irrelevant NARAL is in this fight.
From their own blog site, today’s first post is crowing about their new web design. The second post for today includes the following:
“The Blog for Choice Day was a great success. Thanks to your enthusiastic response, well over 200 people participated…”
Wow, 200 people in one day…now that’s showing some real clout in the 21st century.
New video of Jill Caroll? Reported on Ed Schultz' show just now.
JWR |
01.30.06 - 1:14 pm | #
Some of us can multitask on the phone. I've probably contributed $5000 to NARAL over the years, and I just finished telling them that they need to speak publicly and NOW regarding Chafee.
Meteor Blades |
01.30.06 - 1:15 pm | #
Ed Schultz has been pissing me off for a long time.
OTOH, I've noted that he does serve a purpose. He's the kind of "liberal" who is capable of weaning some of Limbaugh's listeners away from the Kool-Aid. He even SOUNDS like that creep.
Other than that he's an annoying twit.
Wow! Kennedy is giving 'em hell right now.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:16 pm | #
meta | 1:07 pm
Thanks, but I'm just getting started.
I'm so damned tired of being slandered by white men who've probably never had anything but an indoor job, no heavy lifting.
F*ckers.
BTW: Teddy is on f*cking FIRE!!! GO TEDDY!!!
Rayne |
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01.30.06 - 1:16 pm | #
Kennedy is burnin' ... and educating the people!
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:16 pm | #
Are you listening to Ted? He is yelling at those Senators.
zennurse |
01.30.06 - 1:17 pm | #
DAMN. I think Teddy has lost a LOT of weight in the last two weeks.
I think this really got to him. He looks like he lost 20 lbs.
Rayne |
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01.30.06 - 1:17 pm | #
Ted Kennedy is a real mensch. His speech to the senate is truly pearls before slime.
citizen k |
01.30.06 - 1:17 pm | #
There's something weird, hinky-seeming, about NARAL's love affair with Chaffee.
Chaffee is not reliably FOR anything progressive. He's proven, more than once, that he can be arm-twisted by the GOP thugs.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Go Kennedy, Go!!
Tony Ross |
01.30.06 - 1:19 pm | #
gosh ... why has it been so long since we're heard dems talk like dems ...
guess we have to keep pressuring them so they don't backslide
we gotta get ready for the NSA battles next
and now we've got our lists ready!
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:19 pm | #
Mrs.K8 and Norske, thanks for confirming that my bullshit detector wasn't the only one that went off on the afternoon drive with Big Eddie.
Senator Ted makes me proud to be from Massachusetts. Keep the updates coming, still at work.
I thought Harry was going to speak again before the cloture vote. Did he, and I somehow missed him?
Maybe he's behind the scenes, twisting arms, with Durbin right behind him with a whip.
This is agonizing, this suspense is killing me.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:21 pm | #
I just caught the end of Teddy's speech. Wow! I set the DVR so I can go back and watch it.
The Southern Dem/ B. Muse |
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01.30.06 - 1:21 pm | #
It's moments like these that I am so very thankful for places like FDL and Dailykos!
emc |
01.30.06 - 1:22 pm | #
Jay - we're 15 minutes from the cloture vote ... this is it!
Kennedy said "I don't believe this judge will be confirmed"
Spector will close up now and then it's the vote
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:22 pm | #
Senator Bingaman's staff is waffling.
citizen k |
01.30.06 - 1:22 pm | #
The media will be quick to read the obituary for the pro-choice movement if Alito is confirmed. NARAL, et al, did not recognize the fight when it presented itself and lost. Gameover man. Gameover.
ineedalife |
01.30.06 - 1:24 pm | #
One of the best reasons to oppose Chaffee is to gain another Democrat in a reliably blue state.
We need a majority to be able to control the agenda of legislation, control the committees, control the subpoena power.
NARAL is being obtuse. Are they WILFULLY obtuse? Or just obtuse?
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:24 pm | #
Kennedy is right. This judge will not be confirmed. Here we go.
xyz |
01.30.06 - 1:24 pm | #
Teddy was on fire. Next we get Specter and then Frist...followed by the cloture vote.
Rumor had it that the Gang of 14 was meeting at 3:00pm EST. Neither Spector or Frist are on the floor. Could there be some closed door meetings still going on?
RBG |
01.30.06 - 1:25 pm | #
what the hell? It's 4:21 by my clock, I thought we were hearing from Reid and Frist before the vote??
I love my senators, please send them some sugar when this is over.
zennurse |
01.30.06 - 1:26 pm | #
Sheesh I can't keep up with the comments today!
I'm so pleased to see so many people engaged, but a little annoyed at myself for reading so slow! hehe
Kurt |
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01.30.06 - 1:26 pm | #
I emailed AND phoned NARAL. It seems unlikely that they will change their minds. It's almost as if they were never that serious about choice to begin with. It was just a way to make money and gather influence.
I'm glad the netroots is beginning to bypass these ineffective organizations. We don't need them!
Stu |
01.30.06 - 1:27 pm | #
what a cliffhanger
brkily |
01.30.06 - 1:27 pm | #
57, Yes
37, No.
Even Lieberman voted No on cloture. So far, it looks like a hard line party vote, as expected. Specter is speaking and informing us that he told the GOP leadership to vote Yes on cloture.
Place Your Bets...
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Patrick J. Fitzgerald |
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01.30.06 - 1:27 pm | #
any other numbers for bingaman. i've written him, but I just got home and the number I have is busy
202-224-5521
He's my senator.
Thx
hopeful in NM |
01.30.06 - 1:27 pm | #
Norske,
Schultz isn't part of Air America. It's a different syndicate, but it plays on a lot of the stations that carry Air America. Most of the AA talkers are very liberal.
Support what little media we have!
two beers |
01.30.06 - 1:28 pm | #
Specter speaking now. Encouraging all Senators to invoke cloture.
RBG |
01.30.06 - 1:28 pm | #
Mrs. K8 - I'm guessing that NARAL figures having a sort-of ally in the majority party is better than having a real ally in the minority party. Not sure if I agree with that logic or not, but that's the best reason I can come up with.
Cujo359 |
01.30.06 - 1:29 pm | #
The anticipation is making me sweat and palpitate.
Delphyne |
01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Me (to NARAL phone person): How about your President, Nancy Keenan, get on the phone with Sen. Chaffee now?
Phone person: How about she's on the Hill right now?
Me: How about too little to late?
Specter on the floor right now....lying through his teeth...am having Anita Hill flashbacks....
CityGirl |
01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Something's going on behind the scenes. Both Harry and the Cat Killer were supposed to speak before the cloture vote.
Methinks they are too busy behind the scenes -- with their own respective troops, or in some sort of discussion with each other?
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Don't get me started on Ed Schultz-
I called my local station to complain about him. I told them that he is so unresearched and can't hold up his end of an arguement with a republican and that he is an imbarrassment to the left. They just told me that they are keeping him and his ratings are good.
That just shows that Americans like people who are antiintellectual just like themselves.
cathy |
01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Mrs.K8,
Don't waste anytime on NARL, they are history...keep yer eyes on the cloture vote, we are gunna see just who the anti-fascists are and I think if we ken defeat cloture, at least the first time around, we ken keep Scalito's ass off the court. If that happens the fascists are done and we will control the agenda until November. The Diebodlt machines may not even matter.
I love my senators, please send them some sugar when this is over.
zennurse -- that is very important, thank-yous for Senators who voted for filibuster will be something we will be hitting soon. Thanks for the suggestion.
jane hamsher |
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01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
agggggggh. oh good god, i'm losing my mind!
cliffhanger indeed!
wa sabi |
01.30.06 - 1:30 pm | #
Take the dare and trex the troll.
Delphyne |
01.30.06 - 1:31 pm | #
Wheres Bubba.
Your the sperm load your mom should have swallowed.
countryjoe |
01.30.06 - 1:31 pm | #
Byrd's office is closed according to the tape I got when I phoned just now. Has anybody else gotten the same tape? It was Bird's voice.
Left a message in which I all but begged him to vote no on cloture. Has there been any update on what he will do?
In Need of Surveillance |
01.30.06 - 1:31 pm | #
CityGirl --
Perhaps I'm older than you: I'm having both Anita Hill and MAGIC BULLET flashbacks...
Sorry to say I've met Specter. His handshake feels clammy.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:32 pm | #
You guys really are the best. I have laughed so much this last week reading your post and listening to your whack job leaders (Kennedy & Kerry). I keep conjuring up visions of you girly men gnashing your teeth, pulling out your hair, & screaming. It’s almost over and then you can get your wits about you again. Once more Thanks for the entertainment.
Sorry it’s hard to type, Teddy had me giggling again.
Now, you can delete me again loooooooossssssssseeeeeeeeerrrrrssssssss!
Wheres Bubba | 01.30.06 - 1:29 pm | #
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No problem. But please don't let us keep your manly self from the recruiting station. We wouldn't want to hold you up in your quest to fight for what you believe in. Let us know if you need directions.
Frank Probst |
01.30.06 - 1:32 pm | #
maybe Harry's staff told him to twist some arms so we'd get outta their emailboxes!!!
Well, I have to say that I'm impressed that the Democrats managed to even get it down to the wire. Prediction (and I have to say that I really hope I'm wrong on this one): Another Rove victory, with Alito and his wife sitting next to Laura tomorrow night.
Frank Probst |
01.30.06 - 1:34 pm | #
Norske --
I'm with you, my dear compatriot; I'm also down to bitten-off fingernails at this point...
Oh no, ick! It's the Cat Killer speaking. Where's the remote and the mute button...aargh!
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:34 pm | #
I call bullshit on this post.
Really, Jane? When you called NARAL, they told you they "didn't consider Chafee's vote on cloture to be significant?"
Those were their exact words?
I'd be surprised to hear that was true. It would also be at odds with what most people who are calling NARAL seem to be hearing from the folks answering the phone.
Charlie |
01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | #
Has any conflict ever been more clearly good vs. bad than today's left vs. right?
Keep those updates coming!
Jay |
01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | #
Frist wears 3 hats, so he says - methinks it's really more since he forgot the one marked Dunce.
Delphyne |
01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | #
Frist is asking for a 10 minute pause - means he doesn't have the votes ...
lets pause a moment and realize how we have changed the political landscape - it is historic because win or lose we have moved the senate and the discussion
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | #
I just called NARAL and they say Naral's president is meeting right now with Chaffee on the cloture vote.
starbuckrocks |
01.30.06 - 1:37 pm | #
FP -
I wouldn't say that "the dems" have gotten it down to the wire. I would attribute that to the (unexpectedly) involved netroots community. It's important to focus on that. Example: if it weren't for our outrage, even Feinstein (D-CA) would still be standing shoulder to shoulder with Frist.
a |
01.30.06 - 1:37 pm | #
siun...he said "because win or lose......"?????
Jay |
01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
Sounds like Frist is setting up rationalle for "going Nuklar", curious to hear why.
Urban Pirate |
01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
What is wrong with you people? For God's sakes you cream over Nelson and Byrd and attack an ally of the Democratic Party. What the fuck is this on order of anti-choice Harry Reid...
This is too pathetic for words and fucking hypcritical to say the least. Get your facts straight woman... if you are going to keep up this sham attack on Naral then please fucking add SEIU to the list who gave the Rep. Governor Association it largest donation of 500,000 dollars and while you are at it fucking rant and rave about the PA unions who last week voted to back SANATORUM R-PA instead of Casey.
This ranting about NARAL is just stupid and now I see that they got the women to wash their dirty underwear... shame on you all.
Lange |
01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
Frist doesn't have the votes. He can't have the votes because he is already setting this up as partisan obstructionists politics. He's talking about fair up and down votes way to much. Please, don't let him have the votes.
The Southern Dem/ B. Muse |
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01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
I love my senators, too, but it looks as if it won't be enough.
Senator HCA is talking now, after Specter gave Scalito "straight A's" across the board. He's pissing and moaning about Democratic "attacks" on other nominees (obviously forgetting about Miers). Straight A's for a liar, a bigot and a misogynist.
jurassicpork |
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01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
Oooh.
Ten minute pause?
That sounds GOOD. He wouldn't put off a solid victory for one damned second.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:38 pm | #
Ok, this is weird. I just got a form thank you letter from Sen. Biden.
What's weird is that I'm in California and I never wrote to Sen. Biden since he's not my senator.
I did also write to Sen. Lautenberg since my mom lives in Jersey (I used my mom's e-mail address), but never to Biden.
What are they doing, sharing lists?
Tony Ross |
01.30.06 - 1:39 pm | #
Arrrrrghhhhhh. My DSL cut out when the Tedster was speaking and has just kicked in for the CatKiller. Hell! I missed the juice.
meta |
01.30.06 - 1:39 pm | #
A reminder to Lieberman - if he votes for cloture, he will lose in the primary.
xyz |
01.30.06 - 1:39 pm | #
Our outrage is the only thing that changes anything in this country. Women's rights, civil rights all were enacted by grassroots efforts. Don't forget that.
cathy |
01.30.06 - 1:39 pm | #
Jurassicpork - remember they need 60 yes - we just need to prevent that and we are close!
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:40 pm | #
Lieberman already voted against cloture.
Snow and Rockefeller haven't voted, yet. Who else is left?
jurassicpork |
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01.30.06 - 1:40 pm | #
lame putzt. nothing in that pocket but lint. sounds desperate to me!
wa sabi |
01.30.06 - 1:40 pm | #
OK, let's go toe to toe with the bastards. I dare them to try the illegal nuclear option.
CHEATERS!!!
Revealed for the thugs and fascists they are.
Let's see who's a fascist once and for all.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:41 pm | #
I get the same sense you do, Pirate!
Some one must have cried, "Avast Ye Varlets!" to Frist.
Redbeard |
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01.30.06 - 1:41 pm | #
STFU Frist and let's get on with the vote.
The Southern Dem/ B. Muse |
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01.30.06 - 1:41 pm | #
Frist is using the nuclear option as a threat.
But he will back down if we filibuster.
xyz |
01.30.06 - 1:42 pm | #
Frist said Alito has "bipartisan support." What... three Dems?
Dover Bitch |
01.30.06 - 1:42 pm | #
GREAT! If his only option here is to go nuclear, I don't think they'll do it and if they do he'll lose and that will be the end of Bill Frist's political career.
Jay |
01.30.06 - 1:42 pm | #
Jurassicpork - remember they need 60 yes - we just need to prevent that and we are close!
siun:
Yeah, I know, I know. All I'm saying is that it doesn't look good. They need just three more and I have no idea how the Republican Snowe is going to swing on this. Rockefeller I think we can count on.
Frist wants to go nuclear so that Bush can get a bigger bump from the SOTU. If we lose the nuclear option over what is essentially a sound byte, it was never worth anything anyway.
John Casper |
01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Come on Dems. Fuck em up.
countryjoe |
01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Richard Burr is my horse patoot Senator. URGH...He keeps complaining about having to reside over the Senate.
The Southern Dem/ B. Muse |
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01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Frist is pissed.
(I've always wanted to say that)
Bob Adams |
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01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Southern Dem: I just got back from work and I'm going mad trying to catch up. I've been in a bubble all day long.
So the cloture vote hasn't been taken, yet???
jurassicpork |
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01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
I just informed NARAL that I am no longer to be counted on for money. I give money to COMPETENT advocacy groups, not those that REPEATEDLY get played. NARAL is incompetent.
Praedor Atrebates |
01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Harry went quickly. He has the votes and he wants it to go down immediately.
xyz |
01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
Here we go... let the bodies hit the floor...
jurassicpork |
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01.30.06 - 1:45 pm | #
here we goooooooooooo
Urban Pirate |
01.30.06 - 1:46 pm | #
Wouldn't it be great if all those not answering are simply down the street at a Starbucks?
Will Frist get Homeland Security to go find them?
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I can't HEAR what senators are saying!!!
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:46 pm | #
hollllllllllllld on.
wa sabi |
01.30.06 - 1:47 pm | #
voice vote now
can't hear - some will hold off to keep their vote until the end
Chafee I think just voted no - yeah!
siun |
01.30.06 - 1:47 pm | #
Call their bluff! Make them go nuclear, they don't have the public's support for it anymore!
a |
01.30.06 - 1:47 pm | #
Frist is such a pussy. The GOP always talk tough (bullies) and whine when someone punches back. I can't stand that guy.
Jay |
01.30.06 - 1:47 pm | #
jurassic --
The vote is going on as we speak.
I wish I could HEAR the votes.
Mrs. K8 |
01.30.06 - 1:47 pm | #
One of the best reasons to oppose Chaffee is to gain another Democrat in a reliably blue state.
Exactly. The Democratic Party has got to realize that the incumbent seats we're going to peel off are the ones in blue states. That's how the GOP did it (in reverse.) I understand the temptation to think "he's a decent Republican" or to remember the days when we had honest disagreements between the party, but that's gone; we've got to let go of that, and take the seats that should be ours.
Redshift |
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01.30.06 - 1:48 pm | #
I want to hear the votes too....
The Southern Dem/ B. Muse |
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01.30.06 - 1:48 pm | #
Charlie | 01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | Could you please take a more civil tone?
John Casper |
01.30.06 - 1:48 pm | #
FP -
I wouldn't say that "the dems" have gotten it down to the wire. I would attribute that to the (unexpectedly) involved netroots community. It's important to focus on that. Example: if it weren't for our outrage, even Feinstein (D-CA) would still be standing shoulder to shoulder with Frist.
a | 01.30.06 - 1:37 pm | #
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I'll go with that. Kudos to Jane and ReddHedd!
Frank Probst |
01.30.06 - 1:48 pm | #
what losing roe v. wade would mean for me --
today's my 59th birthday so obviously i'm not having to sweat an unwanted pregnancy anymore.
nonetheless, being able to decide my reproductive life has felt not as much a privacy issue, as a slavery issue.
again i would return to second-class citizenship beholden to the powers that be -- conservative, hyperreligious, far right-wing men.
politicians the likes of delay & frist & bush & spector & demint & graham & lott.
Did anybody hear Landreau? It's hard to hear some of them. I wish they were showing a tally. Anybody keeping score? WOWIE...
meta |
01.30.06 - 1:50 pm | #
Where is the tally? How are we supposed to know who's voting how?
Bob Adams |
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01.30.06 - 1:51 pm | #
The first read through of the roll will likely be a lot of passes. We'll start getting a tally the next few reads through...
ReddHedd |
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01.30.06 - 1:51 pm | #
Landrieu voted Yes on cloture, I think.
jurassicpork |
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01.30.06 - 1:51 pm | #
Did I hust hear REID say aye??????
meta |
01.30.06 - 1:51 pm | #
Chaffe just voted to end debate!
Concerned Anarchist |
01.30.06 - 1:56 pm | #
jeffords no, biden no
Concerned Anarchist |
01.30.06 - 1:56 pm | #
LANDRIEU. AYE.
NELSON-FL. AYE.
INOUYE-HI. AYE.
Landrieu needs to be replaced.
Nelson changed his vote.
Inouye now a target for removal.
Rayne |
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01.30.06 - 1:57 pm | #
Thank mistaken "aye" for Reid 'bout gave me the vapors
Tony Ross |
01.30.06 - 2:06 pm | #
And once Roe v. Wade is overturned, what is next? Lawrence v. Kansas maybe?
I have heard many stories about certain groups being only interested in fund-raising.
Helga Fremlin |
01.30.06 - 2:22 pm | #
please breathe before hitting "publish"
and enough of the "nedlamont" spam.
manys |
01.30.06 - 2:23 pm | #
The only hope is to find and publish a list of prominent Republicans who have had abortions: wives, girl friends, and daughters. They're out there and the list is most likely long. The ethics of privacy, in this case, are trumped by their duplicious behavior.
They'll still get abortions, even after Alito, because they are wealthy. At least their political cover will be blown and they won't be able to pretend anymore.
Sgt. Fury |
01.30.06 - 2:24 pm | #
NARAL needs top get rid of Nancy Keenan. When she ran for Montana Representative, I was embarrassed for her poor command of the issues and lack of vision. She got trounced by Rehberg.
hit_escape |
01.30.06 - 2:34 pm | #
Charlie | 01.30.06 - 1:36 pm | Could you please take a more civil tone?
John Casper | 01.30.06 - 1:48 pm |
John,
Sorry--I didn't realize I was the first person to use the word 'bullshit' in these comments.
Oh. Wait. I wasn't.
Charlie |
01.30.06 - 3:22 pm | #
Your use of the phrase "Roe v. Wade _was passed_" shows that you know what Roe is -- a piece of legislation.
The only problem with that is that our elected representatives make legislation, not 7 justices of the Supreme Court.
The sooner Roe is overruled the sooner we can get back to self-government on the abortion question. Then we can see what the majority really wants -- sensible prohibitions on this ongoing atrocity.
Roll on Justice Alito! One more and we'll have it.
Andy |
01.30.06 - 3:28 pm | #
Jane, Jane, Jane... Did the guy dropping the ball have to be a Philadelphia Eagle?!?!
Yeah, Yeah, I know. What's the difference between the Philadelphia Eagles and a dollar? You get four quarters from a dollar! Why doesn't Camden have a football team? Because then Philadelphia would want one!
But still... First the cloture... Then this...
lambert strether |
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01.30.06 - 6:05 pm | #
