Geez Jane...first Lil Debbie does Dallas and now Klein in motorcycle drag. How will I ever sleep tonight?
RBG |
02.28.06 - 9:38 pm | #
It's #3. Is there even any question?
"He sounded a lot like the combat veterans..."
That, people, is the observation of a man who is truly clue-free.
Louise |
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02.28.06 - 9:44 pm | #
A little OT but it has me pulling my hair out in clumps.
According to old John "Deathsquads" Negroponte Iran has close ties with "extremist elements" in Iraq.
John Negroponte said.."And Iran, run by a Shiite Islamic theocracy, "has already got quite close ties with some of the extremist elements" inside Iraq"...
Then it got me thinking, extremist elements like: The newly elected Prime Minister that Bush and Rove and all the wingers hold so dear?
"BAGHDAD, July 16 -- A quarter-century after Iraq's invasion of Iran launched the Middle East's bloodiest modern war, Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim Jafari arrived in Tehran on Saturday for a three-day visit that officials on both sides said signals a new alliance that could change the religious and political balance of power in the region."
Why? You can't have it both ways, Joe! Which is it: the Democrats are bloodlessly legalistic, or (wait .. . no, I vote for #6!) just spewing vituperative nonsense? No, wait, I vote for #8: what's wrong with the Democrats is they have a 40 year record of solid accomplishment and good works to be blamed for . . . or, no, wait . . . oh, I think my head's gonna explode.
oregondave |
02.28.06 - 9:48 pm | #
I"m struck by the contradictions between 5 & 6 and can't decide which one is better.
Together, they may portray the worst traits in journalists.
RBG |
02.28.06 - 9:48 pm | #
Joe Klien wrote "fiction" under the name Anonymous. Then lied to the country and his boss at Newsweek- but it was OK because the book was about the Clintons.
Showme-lady |
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02.28.06 - 9:52 pm | #
Gonna go with #1. Can't resist the fetishism.
Mark B. |
02.28.06 - 9:53 pm | #
What a loathsome creature.
His primary color is black, for his dark soul.
I vote for #3
marky |
02.28.06 - 9:53 pm | #
#6. You have got to be f*cking sh*tting me.
op99 |
02.28.06 - 9:53 pm | #
I've never really paid attention to Joe Klien before but, creeping Jesus that guy is the worst of all possible worlds. A slavering republican talking point spewer with out an ounce of the sense of hypocracy that seems to oooze out of every word.
I'd have to go with of course number 3.
Cheney must have been deeply affected when he shot his friend in the face. I guess that does explain that wild eyed 1000 yard stare he's got.
Two was a close second because you can read Rove's inflection in that talking point.
Murray |
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02.28.06 - 9:58 pm | #
#3 seems like the stupidest, but only because #9 is virtually incomprehensible.
I'd say somebody should put all of this wisdom in a shoebox and label it "Substitute for actual thinking".
Doc |
02.28.06 - 10:00 pm | #
Gotta go with the Post Traumatic Dick Disorder too.
I actually read in another blog a vet who was repulsed by Deadeyes response.
Maybe now he has a modicum of understanding of the needles trauma he has subjected 10's of 1000's of people to? Nope, just that it would be a hassle for Deadeye Dick to explain to the press that he shotgunned a 78 year old man in the face and heart.
Also, looks like the Great British Poodle has caught the Mad Chimp Disease:
he he he
jane hamsher |
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02.28.06 - 10:03 pm | #
Gotta go with #9: "Their implicit position has been to err toward law." WHAT? Followed by "It exemplified the Democratic Party's recent overdependence on legal process. . . ."
I guess in the face of lawlessness, any insistence on legal process is an overdependence on it. The whole of #9 is nonsense masquerading as sense.
dana |
02.28.06 - 10:07 pm | #
#3 -- Dick ("Five-Deferments") Cheney suffering from PTSD?
You been into Rush's oxycontin stash, Joe?
(Do I get 86'd for more than one vote? Or am I OK 'cuz you've hired Diebold to do the tallying?)
oregondave |
02.28.06 - 10:08 pm | #
#6
"A so call journalist"
"does his own leg work"
No on both counts
Here's what Steve Soto had to say about Joe:
"Klein has turned into another lazy assed whore for the White House who can't even get up off his ass to do basic research before he writes one of these wet kisses for Bush. Use Google next time Joe. By the way, where in the hell are the fact checkers at Time magazine?"
susan |
02.28.06 - 10:11 pm | #
No. 3. No other quote even comes close. It is such an outrageous and perverted transmogrification of Tricky Dick from the man he is to "One Tin Soldier" that words almost fail me. It is, indeed, a delusionary creation of such herculean effort that one wonders how one's mind (let alone Joe's) could ever envelop such a staggering distortion.
Just call him Joe Magico, the man who can weave fantastical metamorphosises while performing Olympian feats of Illusion.
Jon |
02.28.06 - 10:11 pm | #
"A so call journalist"
A so called journalist.....
susan |
02.28.06 - 10:11 pm | #
Gad, Joe Klein and I both graduated from the same, very good prep school. He was a few years ahead of me and I don't remember ever meeting him but I don't think Mr Schneller is proud of his thought process and knowledge of history.
gmoke |
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02.28.06 - 10:12 pm | #
Why can't Dean kick Joe la Ho Klein out of the party? His only claim to fame is making outrageous comments denigrating demos, so kick him out. He'd just be another Republican ho at that point without enough chachet to get booked on a show. (sorry don't know how to spell chachet)
christofay |
02.28.06 - 10:12 pm | #
It's hard to believe this is the same Joe Klein that wrote a fantastic Woody Guthrie biography. It sucks to be old and bitter and clueless and Joe Klein in the 21st Century. Joe Klein, vintage 1980, was a fine writer. But today's version is a zombie shell of a man.
joejoejoe |
02.28.06 - 10:13 pm | #
I have worked full-time for three magazines in my life. I have freelanced for a half-dozen more. I am telling you now that, if I had ever handed in a piece of fanciful mock clairvoyance like this -- if I had said, for example, that, by striking out in a crucial situation, Nomar Garciaparra must now be humbled and know how Lee felt when he sent Pickett across the pastures -- there isn't a single editor for whom I ever wrote that wouldn't have poured himself a martini as big as a horse's leg and laughed himself out onto 57th Street. If I always wrote like that, I'd be driving a crosstown bus by now.
God help me, I laughed until tears were flowing when I read that.
Doc |
02.28.06 - 10:13 pm | #
klein is proof positive that so long as you're willing to swallow, you'll always have lunch bought for you in this town. just be gone by 1PM.
Jim in LA |
02.28.06 - 10:15 pm | #
Today on one of the cable shows (geez - they're all starting to blend together in my mind!) Joe Klein said, "Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
The comment was particularly specious because all the rightwingers on the show were trashing the republicans and Bush at the time - new poll numbers in the toilet, port gate, Cheney's "accident," etc. etc. It was Klein's perfect "opportunity" to pump up the democrats a little - bring it home for the team. So, just in case anybody was thinking that the dems could capitalize on the rethugs' "misfortunes," along came "liberal" Joe, one of their own, to make sure no one would go away thinking the dems could do anything right. Good job, Joe. That's what they pay you for...
everhopeful |
02.28.06 - 10:15 pm | #
this is totally unfair! he's a plant he's not a democrat. he should be shot for treason. picking one is impossible. where do you start.not exactly a sophie's choice. comparing cheney to a combat veteran(the anguish?? gag me. claiming terrorist (after the harvest, like we do w/organs,how lifesaving)have modified their behavior, oh what a pity. suspecting(!) a strong majority (not just any ol majority, it has to be strong) would favor being spied apon, if if if they would declassify what they won't. i will wait to vote on the finals. send him to the meatgrinder! burn him at the stake! what an imposter.
annie |
02.28.06 - 10:16 pm | #
#6
I forgot to vote.
joejoejoe |
02.28.06 - 10:16 pm | #
It seems Scooter's team has come up with a new line of defense...a memory loss expert:
#6 The irony is too rich.
anotherpawn |
02.28.06 - 10:18 pm | #
Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Not only that, but that particular phrase is one that was used about Arafat and the PLO...I thought it was a line made for them and now Ol' Bitter Joe is recycling PLO perjoratives against the Democrats.
has to be post-dramatic dick display 3, considering the mofo got, what? five deferments because he had other things to do, then he's in a station wagon or something, with a bunch of old republican coots and he nearly offs one because he's playing at being a hunter.
give me a big time freaking anonymous break, Little Joe.
what substance does he supply in this drivel? ...that he's willing to suck dick for access to the kids at the country club?
fauxreal |
02.28.06 - 10:22 pm | #
#3 clearly, never has a supposed hetrosexual written a metaphorical blow job as asinine as that.
tough customer? he is a fucking asshole. John Murtha is tough customer you fuckwad.
Hubris Sonic |
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02.28.06 - 10:22 pm | #
does anyone have a email address for Josephina 'cock gobbler' Klien.
Hubris Sonic |
Homepage |
02.28.06 - 10:24 pm | #
Scene:
Courtroom in DC during the I Lewis Libby trial.
"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I bring to the stand our star witnesses for the defense."
"Bailiff, please escort Ms. Cleo and The Amazing Kreskin to the stand".
Fade out as Ted Wells winks at Libby and blows a kiss to Ms. Cleo.
I think he has less understanding of what he thinks he wrote than I think he thinks I thought he meant. Or something.
But enough with the Limbaugh quotes, When are we gonna do Joe Klein?
JWR |
02.28.06 - 10:24 pm | #
It's a scream reading these votes. It all seems to be a matter of the point at which one began to retch.
I agree number 3 is really, really, unexaggerratabley atrocious, but, perhaps because it is only 10 days since I retched so wretchedly over it, it was not until
Joe Klein said, "Democrats never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity."
Thanks! Makes it easier to pick #6
where he's projecting: "... spew vituperative nonsense instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity."
Yep, the village called, they've found another one of the idiots.
Shez |
02.28.06 - 10:24 pm | #
no offense to the cock gobblers out there. oh, and remember to tip your waitresses.
Hubris Sonic |
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02.28.06 - 10:24 pm | #
Oh, and my 15-year old luvs Johnny Depp and thinks it's cool that you produced a movie that Johnny acted in.
pol | 02.28.06 - 9:18 pm
I am considerably older than 15, but IMO Johnny Depp is a brilliant and seriously underrated actor. But, he may be a pain to work with (or a joy). Only Jane knows that...
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Valley Girl |
02.28.06 - 10:25 pm | #
Nothing says Republican in Dem clothing like #3. He's all concerned about Deadeye, poor Deadeye's feeling are all hurt, poor Deadeye might not find hunting pleasurable any more. Poor Deadeye Dick but not a word about the old guy Deadeye shot in the face with a shotgun.
Joe Klein is deserving of a nickname up there with of that classic of wordsmithing, ole 60 grit.
Suzanne |
02.28.06 - 10:26 pm | #
May I have Swiss Cheese on my Klein?
lil debbie |
02.28.06 - 10:29 pm | #
#3 is the most massively Orwellian.
Klein's status as "Democrat" who can always be counted on to trash the party and all that it stands for approaches Leiberman's. Whoever said Dean should kick him out is right -- there must be some way to boot out fifth-columnists like him ....
rcauthen |
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02.28.06 - 10:29 pm | #
I am voting for No. 1, which I fully disclose that I nominated. To dismiss concern for the U.S. Constitution as "civil-liberties fetishism" and "a hangover from the Vietnam era" is, in my mind, despicable. And to suggest that, unlike during the Nixon era, antiwar groups now have no need to worry about being spied on by the government is stupid. Klein should retire from his career as a faux-Democratic pundit and become a right-wing radio talk show host.
"1. "For too many liberals, all secret intelligence activities are 'fruit,' and bitter fruit at that. The government is presumed guilty of illegal electronic eavesdropping until proven innocent. This sort of civil-liberties fetishism is a hangover from the Vietnam era, when the Nixon Administration wildly exceeded all bounds of legality--spying on antiwar protesters and civil rights leaders."
neurophius |
02.28.06 - 10:30 pm | #
Ms. Hamsher, I've been trying to contact you at the e-mail address linked on the FDL page, with no luck. Would you be able to mail me at the address I've entered into HaloScan (I assume you have access to it)?
(I submitted #334 for Dickfest. Sincere thanks to the very many witty writers and appreciative readers. I'm on the east coast and didn't get to post in that wrap-up FDL late nite Dickfest thread till well into the next day. EPU big time, so to speak.)
Again, very sorry for OT, and thanks for all your (sing. and pl.) work.
"This sort of civil-liberties fetishism is a hangover from the Vietnam era."
Yeah, that was a really bad hangover. Ever been to the Nam memorial in DC? Like, see all of those names? Moved to tears before and after you recognized the name of someone you knew? FU, Joe Klein. And, BTW, Joe, were you of draftable age during Nam, and, if so, did you serve?
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Valley Girl |
02.28.06 - 10:36 pm | #
Go to this site to read about how well our economy is actually doing. This economist says inflation as far as the CPI is concerned is closer to 6% rather whatever the govt approved headlines say.
Unemployment is 12% rather than the RNC's feel good number.
GNP growth, basically flat.
Read and educate yourselves, buddies. U. S. economy: flatlining.
U. S. future: study Argentina.
Sorry for the bad news.
christofay |
02.28.06 - 10:37 pm | #
My vote: #3
FDL is slandering Klein. Look at what #6 reveals about his great journalistic ethos, with my comments in brackets.
6. "I'm a so-called journalist
[irrefutable confirmation that he did write one thing containing an empirical fact]
who views his job as doing the legwork
[showing his great care and precision -he did not say headwork or investigation, did he?]
and then calling them as I see them.
[Credit him with brutal honesty. He specifically said “them” And how does he see them? Well the Democrats are old out-of-it chumps, losers, very “industrial age", and fun to use for some wordly-wise cynical cred, by beating up on them with stereotyped, canned, pre-cooked snark. Democrats are also earnest and frumpy, so clearly good target for calling hypocrites. The Republicans are kewl, very “information age” with-it” innovative hipsters who are fun to hang with if you’ll play. He was careful not to say “call IT as I see it” because that would falsely imply that he was talking about, you know, out-of-it “industrial age” unhip things with old person smell, like facts and stuff.]
And I'm tired of civilians of the left and the right who, in their infinite wisdom, spew vituperative nonsense instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity.
[I can’t figure this out at all, but it sounds like something, you know, real deep, so it must be profound and very hiply wise-ass and immensely knowing, in a knowing sort of way. So, points for style on the landing -he nailed it going to the radical center and hit the bulls-eye, not a jitter not a half step. What a dismount! The word "civilians" is genius, it implies some deep socio-philosophical subtext that we would hesitate to admit we do not get -almost worthy of the NRO]
Wesgpc |
02.28.06 - 10:38 pm | #
I concur with #3 - too disturbing to pass up.
Too late to enter but three quickies:
A question to Howard Dean at forum in March, 2003. JOE KLEIN: Let's go back to those moms and kids. You would shut down all of those sweatshops, and you would put all of those people out of work
..and of course Joe likes Joe. Joe Lieberman would never say anything so crass. His support for the war is a matter of principle, as is every other position he has taken in this campaign. and This will not help Gephardt in Iowa, but it was an act of courage—Lieberman has made a habit of such acts in this campaign—and a stark contrast to the position taken by both Kerry and Clark, the two alleged warriors in the Democratic field.
While the comparison of Cheney to actual combat veterans is pretty enticing, I feel that #3 is kind of a meretricious choice. For a real misreading of our entire political system, #9 is the king and that's why I'm partial to it (and nominated it).
"A culture of law that has supplanted legislative consideration" has to be the dumbest statement ever made about Congress. Especially when contrasted against the rule-breaking nature of the majority party.
His absurd statement that "this is democracy once removed" is mind-blowing. Does he not understand, after all these years in Washington, where "law makers" work, that we have a representative form of government?
Throw in his claim that "few Democrats [were] willing to speak about the case" and his description of Barney Frank's apparent sterility and I think we have a winner.
Dover Bitch |
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02.28.06 - 10:42 pm | #
Oh, and regarding No. 1, I forgot to note Joe-in-de-Klein's blatant "fruitiness."
neurophius |
02.28.06 - 10:42 pm | #
Please stop insulting us by associating us with Joe Klein.
Thanks,
King Gobble Gobble
Cock Gobbling King |
02.28.06 - 10:43 pm | #
88 -- I sent you an email, I'll send you another. I need your address!
jane hamsher |
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02.28.06 - 10:45 pm | #
I've been putting off sleeping... Looking at that awful mockup of Debbie with - is that Dana Carvey? and now that hideous photo of Joe like he's going to Sturgis...
Jane - those are not sugarplums. Well, at least I got to vote early. I pray I can erase the photos....
anotherpawn |
02.28.06 - 10:48 pm | #
Joe Klein absolutely sucks and must be disassociated with the dem party asap. Maybe he and Leiberman and Biden can join the repugs before they do any more damage. Love the biker jacket.
lil debbie |
02.28.06 - 10:49 pm | #
Sorry, couldn't resist OT response to
christofay: weedenco has some interesting things to say about economic stats. But it is not like a big secret. There is a lot of controversy among economists about how to adjust for changing quality of goods, and there is no method of adjustment that's perfect. Doing no adjustment at all is not perfect.
Generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) cannot really be applied to a country. But economists have attempted to adapt the spirit of them and analysis the liability of social insurance programs. One method is called generational accounting.
Weedon's criticism of the establishment survey doesn't convince me. The same problems he mentions exist with the household survey, and many useful surveys sample establishments.
Looks like he's popularized several big controversies. See Brad DeLong's blog, or Angry Bear blog, and you will see many of the same topics discussed.
Wesgpc |
02.28.06 - 10:59 pm | #
looks like i missed the 'joe klein entries' thread. ah, well. i found a couple of gems and hate to keep them to myself.
while hunting for something wretched, i stumbled on the fiction of joe klein. it left me truly speechless. so purely for entertainment value, klein's description of the midwestern landscape:
"The event at the Elks club ended at dusk and they headed west, into the countryside. She was surprised by the drama of the terrain-the rolling hills were steeper than she'd expected, and perfectly proportionate; the chocolate soil fresh and fecund.
The sun was setting between pilasters of clouds, which were less delicate than the casual coastal puffs she was used to; they were bigger, heavier, like the heroic thuds of mashed potato that had been deposited on their plates at the Elks. And yet, the sunset colors were as subtle as the clouds were dramatic; no pollution-induced fuchsias out here. There were streaks of canary and tangerine rising to a robin's-egg blue, then fading into a navy night."
sheesh.
and from an October 1998 column. apologies if someone already posted it:
"[T]here is a freshness to both Bush campaigns. The brothers seem to have stumbled across an electoral formula and a new political vocabulary-independent of each other, they insist-that may constitute the most creative and humane Republican response to Clinton's successful effort to recast the Democrats as the party of the middle class: they are reaching out, with some success, to the poor, especially to Hispanics and to African-Americans...
They remain conservatives, they insist; they also promise low taxes and limited government. Still, there is none of the harsh moralism and country-club exclusivity that have marked Sun Belt Republicanism in the past, and there is a determined emphasis on solving the social problems that Republicans often ignore."
so, which do you think is funnier... heroic thuds of mashed potatoes? or the Bush brothers' creative and humane reaching out to the poor?
Yay, hi 88, great poem and congratulations!
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TeddySanFran |
02.28.06 - 11:13 pm | #
uh oh. forgot to vote for #3.
putting cheney and combat veterans in the same sentence... shameless.
isis2 |
02.28.06 - 11:13 pm | #
A side point.
Jane, we need some guidance.
We got two Joes, yes two, count'em
How do we tell them apart.
Big Joementum and Little Joementum?
It's like having two Dicks in the same house. Senior and Junior?
Big Dick and Little Dick.
Can we named Little Joe something more unique and fitting for a mammal of his esteemed position?
Just wondering.
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Gentleman Jim |
02.28.06 - 11:14 pm | #
I can't decide between the cult of personality-riddled #3 and the really scary #9, so I'll go with the Beatles: "#9,#9.."
Edward Teller |
02.28.06 - 11:17 pm | #
#3, all the way, no contest.
Comparing an old man who shoots his friend while aiming at captive, pen-raised quail to a combat veteran is about eight steps below despicable.
Lons |
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02.28.06 - 11:21 pm | #
How the fuck can Deadeye Dick the five defermented man actually be compared to a "combat veteran" by Joe Klein? Cheney sends thousands of real American soldiers to their deaths in Iraq and then all of a sudden has pangs of conscience because he mistakes an old Republican for a pen-raised bird?
Oh the psychic pain he must feel now that he's shot dear Harry. Gag me me with a very large fucking spoon, Joe. The man is Death Vader.
#3 by a slimey Klein*
*Klein -- synonym for person who speaks out of his rectal region. A latter-day Petomane, a man who farts on cue for money.
radlib1 |
02.28.06 - 11:24 pm | #
Opps forgot to vote.
I liked #4 for it's self delusional circular logic.
It has a perverse Yogi Berra zen thing about it, like the sound of one hand wanking.
Gentleman Jim |
02.28.06 - 11:26 pm | #
Heaping mashed potato clouds on the poor (and the veterans, don't forget the veterans). Yes, they love the regular folks, those Bush Brothers. And they have Klein to wax nostalgiac on their asses. And Limbaugh and Hannity and the "Fairness Doctrine" is gone with Reagan's bathwater. So the Sixpack family Soccermoms will listen carefully and vote against their own interests again.
lil debbie |
02.28.06 - 11:27 pm | #
"pilasters" sounded weird. Online dictionary says pilaster is a decorative rectangular column attached to a wall. But these pilasters are kinda melting, like thuds of mash potato. Then there are the "casual coastal puffs" Yeah, I grew up in CA, I know what that means. And Tangerine (man) sunset.
Klein into mescaline or something? Or just real strong hash?
And this is weird:
"harsh moralism and country-club exclusivity that have marked Sun Belt Republicanism" SE Sunbelt Repubs might be moralistic, but not SW, right? And most sunbelt Republicans are not exclusive at all, are they?
That sounds wrong, almost as bad as David Brooks' archetypical American, the "Nevada truckdriver," with stolid and traditional values. Sheesh. I got too many relatives in NV, and that is definitely not reality based archetyping, lemme tell ya. And I love NV.
FDL people are more in the know than I am. Klein and Brooks... those guys on something? What a they use? Don't worry, I won't try it. Obviously messes up the head real bad.
Wesgpc |
02.28.06 - 11:29 pm | #
OT, but Late Night and I voted, or John, Paul, George and Ringo voted for me:
Alan Rickman commenting on the cancellation of "My Name is Rachel Corrie" at a theatre workshop in NYC:
"I can only guess at the pressures of funding an independent theatre company in New York, but calling this production "postponed" does not disguise the fact that it has been cancelled," Mr. Rickman said in a statement.
"This is censorship born out of fear, and the New York Theatre Workshop, the Royal Court, New York audiences - all of us are the losers."
I was at the final performance of "My Name is Rachel Corrie" on October 29 in London. Meghan Dobbs's performance was riveting. This is one of the better one-person plays in recent English language theatre. This is all so sad.
#4.
"...I suspect that a strong majority would favor the NSA program as well, if its details were declassified and made known."
But alas, they can't be known so just leave the driving to DUI Bush.
This makes me laugh out loud. Pisses me off, amazes me that a thinking adult could say such a stupid thing, a disingenuous thing, AND he gets paid for it!?? And calls himself a Democrat! Which takes me to the kicking-the-filing-cabinet stage. None of the others quite do that whole range of things.
Margot |
02.28.06 - 11:42 pm | #
until this contest, i never read joe klein other than seeing him quoted a line or two at a time. i've only heard him punditing on tv which was bad enough.
when i read 'heroic thuds of mashed potatoes' i couldn't stop laughing. it sounds like an entry in the Imitation Hemingway Competition.
but realizing that in late 1998 he already had his mind made up that the Bush brothers kind of conservativism was really enlightening.
isis2 |
02.28.06 - 11:50 pm | #
ET --
I thought of you when I heard about the Corrie cancellation today; infuriating.
ralphbon |
02.28.06 - 11:51 pm | #
ralphbon,
Yeah. The play won the London Theatre audience choice first prize this past season. With such credentials, such a play would be shooting for a movie adaptation by now under a freer system.
I'm hoping somebody is working on something about Marla Ruzicka....... and I'm hoping and praying for Jill!
Lyndie Englund aside, American women have been our misguided country's greatest icons in this war so far: Rachel, Jessica Lynch, Shoshana Johnson, Marla Ruzicka, Jill Carroll, many others.
Edward Teller |
02.28.06 - 11:58 pm | #
#3 is a lulu. So is Joe Klein, .
dancas |
03.01.06 - 12:03 am | #
As for Klein, well, it's #3. Deserves a dramatic reading every Veterans' Day.
I don't consider myself a particularly hostile man, but I can't quite purge the vision of Klein being extraordinarily rendered to Bagram and subjected to waterboarding with mashed potatoes and fecund chocolate soil, to the sound of Eminem, cranked up to 200 decibels, screaming selections from Klein's semen-stained thesaurus.
Purely ideation, not contemplation, mind you. I'm not a hostile man.
ralphbon |
03.01.06 - 12:03 am | #
Edward Teller-OT, have you heard anything unusal reports of Mt. St. Augustine shaking the earth every 12 hrs. to the second. Curious.
wilbo |
03.01.06 - 12:11 am | #
Oh, #3, that's a gas, gas, gas!
wilbo |
03.01.06 - 12:12 am | #
For having absolutely no real information content while trying to seem profound, I'll go with quote #1.
Cujo359 |
03.01.06 - 12:14 am | #
I find it disgusting that you all are wasting so much time and effort on this moron Joe Klein! What if this was the last post you ever made? Would you want it to be about Joe Klein? No wonder people refuse to take bloggers seriously when they spend all night digging up quotes from an IDIOT! I look to you all for hope in my own discouragement with the way things are these days. Don't drive off the cliff just because you can!!!!
Spiderpaws |
03.01.06 - 12:14 am | #
wilbo,
why?
Here's the best page from which to follow the progression of warmth upward:
"February 28, 2006
Level of Concern Color Code: ORANGE
Unrest continues at Augustine Volcano. Over the past 24 hours, seismicity has been relatively low but remains above background levels. Seismic data indicate that small rock avalanches from the lava dome are occurring intermittently. The summit has been visible in clear web camera views this morning, and a low-level plume of steam has been present. Occasional, but localized ash clouds and light ash fall may be produced by some of the more energetic collapses of the lava dome."
Edward Teller |
03.01.06 - 12:17 am | #
Spiderpaws:
If snarky contests were all this blog were about, you might have a ghost of a point. They're not, and you don't.
ralphbon |
03.01.06 - 12:18 am | #
Joe Klein is clearly a Neocon. There are only two groups that defend Bush with that kind of blindness: hardcore Ditto Heads, and Neoconservatives.
Klein is obviously the latter.
Dick Tickle |
03.01.06 - 12:20 am | #
Not good enough for the USA. Not good enough to merit mention yet in the American media. Not good enough to merit a header on any reputable American progressive blog:
My Name Is Rachel Corrie was the biggest straight play winner in this year’s Theatregoers’ Choice Awards, triumphing in three categories: Best New Play, Best Solo Performance and Best Director. Alan Rickman, Megan Dodds and Katharine Viner - the trio behind Rachel Corrie - reunited at the Royal Court, where the play premiered in April 2005.
Edward Teller |
03.01.06 - 12:29 am | #
ET-There have been some unusal 'regular' rumblings down south here, Mt Rainer, Mt Baker, and Mt Hood.
wilbo |
03.01.06 - 12:29 am | #
OfT but just found this article and must share it:
"After an eighteen-month study, five independent experts appointed by the UN Commission on Human Rights have just concluded that practices currently conducted at the US prison in Guantánamo amount to torture: excessive violence, force-feeding of hunger-striking detainees and arbitrary detention of prisoners that violates their right under international law to challenge the legality of their captivity before an independent judicial body.
The Bush Administration has condemned the publication of the Abu Ghraib photos and has rejected the UN report as "fundamentally flawed." But Americans should be grateful that people in the rest of the world are helping us discover what the Administration is trying to conceal from its own citizens: It is conducting war crimes in our name.
The UN report makes recommendations that are simple and obvious:
* Immediately allow international inspection and supervision to insure an end to force-feeding and special interrogation techniques approved by the Defense Department but condemned under international law.
* Bring the detainees to trial or release them without delay.
* Conduct an investigation by an independent authority of all allegations of abuse to insure that all perpetrators of torture and other crimes are brought to justice--even high-level military and political officials.
* Close the Guantánamo prison."
snip
"The Bush Administration has placed the responsibility for prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib and elsewhere on a few "bad apples" in the lowest ranks. But since the Nuremberg Tribunal of Nazi war criminals, international law has maintained the principle of "command responsibility," which makes top officials who ordered the crimes or failed to prevent them accountable.
It's not just a question of international law. Administration officials are well aware that the US War Crimes Act makes it a serious crime for any American--including top government officials--to commit any "grave breach" of the Geneva Conventions, including "willful killing, torture, or inhuman treatment" of detainees. Perhaps that has something to do with the Administration's eagerness to discredit the UN report.
If President Bush won't halt the abuse of US captives, Congress stands next in line for responsibility. Last December, it passed the so-called McCain amendment, which supposedly abolished all torture by US forces anywhere in the world. But the UN report makes clear that torture is continuing at Guantánamo."
OfT, but so very important.
The world reminds us that we the American people must face the fact that our government is committing war crimes, we are complicit, and it must stop.
Joe Klein and anyone who justifies or supports those who are committing war crimes is just as complicit if not more than those who are silent. Both international and national laws are being violated. No matter how much the U.S. government thumbs its nose at these laws, the law is the law, and there will be long-lasting legal repercussions on a global level if we in the U.S. cannot prosecute these criminals ourselves.
Nice try ralphbon. Do YOU have a point? I'd like to hear what merit there is in promoting the words of a moron. This country is run by morons, do we need to pay heed to another one? Help!!!!
Spiderpaws |
03.01.06 - 12:35 am | #
wilbo,
They all either go off again or die as the planet lives its life. Global warming may help volcanic activity in more ways than we know.
Edward Teller |
03.01.06 - 12:43 am | #
It's got to be No.6, Jane. Drop the qualifiers and Klein slips up and tells the truth, " I am a so-called journalist...And I am tired..." The rest of his comment is garbage that distracts from the truth his regressive soul wants to scream.
amilius |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 12:53 am | #
Bush sneaks into Kabul NYT
Soulard Blues |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 12:57 am | #
SP --
What you call "paying heed" I call exposure, denigration, and ridicule. DINOs need to be called out and stomped. If you can do it with a creative twist that attracts publicity (cf Abbie Hoffmann), all the better. This blog has a high profile; its Cheney poetry contest received media pick-up.
Most Americans do NOT understand what morons people like Klein and comparable burbling dissemblers (eg, Tom Friedman), are. Highlighting Klein's most execrable comments through a seemingly lighthearted campaign is one means out of many to help wake people up about how out-of-joint our "respectable" media have become.
I've wasted enough electrons on a point that should be obvious. Good night.
ralphbon |
03.01.06 - 12:58 am | #
#9 comes close; damnclose. I mean what the ....! He clearly doesn't understand the first thing about a sustainable, democratic, just, legal, civic society.
BUT ...
#3 is the money quote.
It just left me gobsmacked!
Griffon |
03.01.06 - 12:59 am | #
Dear leader leader visits the Colonies... I wonder if he brought the plastic turkey?
Soulard Blues |
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03.01.06 - 1:06 am | #
Breaking news on Joe Klein's and the DLC's deep secret heart-throb:
BUSH SNEAKS INTO AFGHANISTAN
(Though AP calls it a "surprise" visit)
March 1, 2006
President Bush Makes Surprise Visit to Afghanistan
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
BARGRAM AIR BASE, Afghanistan -
President Bush made a surprise visit to Aghanistan on Wednesday, flying here secretely to support its fledging government in the face of rising violence from al-Qaida and Taliban militants.
Bush's old pals the Tals.
+
The neocons all know: Bush and Bin Laden are Siamese twins. If one dies, the other croaks.
dancas |
03.01.06 - 1:11 am | #
Jaysus, it's an honor roll of dumbfuckery... An embarrassment of, er, riches...
#3 -- mindnumbingly inane.
#4 -- if I didn't know better I'd think he was taking the piss.
#5 -- toecurlingly supercilious.
#6 -- mirror, mirror on the wall...
#7 -- no, he's not funny, either
#9 -- words fail me... No they don't: You, sir, have the IQ of a retarded orang-atan
Well, I've reread them. The keyboard-chewing rage has abated, and I'm left in awe, because it dawned on me that we are here privy to one of the great romances of the modern age. Yes, that's right: Joe Klein with Joe Klein.
We should look on with appropriately sober-yet-twinkly eyes as Captain Cockhead has his way with himself. Ah, but anyway... Where was I?
Oh, yes, I vote for #9.
Yours quite frankly,
Bentley Stanforth III |
03.01.06 - 1:13 am | #
OT but pertinent...
a poem written by the democratically elected Cheddi Jagan in 1953, the year the British invaded Guiana, suspended the constitution and put him in prison:
"DEATH OF IMPERIALISM
Today we strive to end our humanity's pains
To extract your oppression's painful tooth,
To cut your vicious circle of our lives -
- No work, no land, crime punishment, crime
But you tread with savage fascist steps
With quislings, and hired mercenaries
Willing and unwilling slaves and shares of your loot.
You keep your bayonets at our throats and shout
Law and Order must prevail!
Don't read that!
Don't say that!
Don't do that!
Don't go there!
Our beautiful country a vast prison you have made
And fences built to wrench us from our beloved -
our homes
our children
our brothers
our comrades
You beat us on our heads in the name of peace
While in cleric robes you call for peace
For you, peace is our grave and life hereafter
For us, peace is joy and life and laughter
For this we march tomorrow!"
this was the same year the democratically elected Mossadegh government of Iran was overthrown by the CIA- because they were nationalizing the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, and then the very following year the democratic and progressive government of President Jacobo Arbenz of Guatemala was destroyed. so this Iraqi 'spreading democracy' thing going on now looks like just more of the same-- only named with the new Republican Orwellian opposite-speak)
brkily |
03.01.06 - 1:21 am | #
and, i vote for 8. it's for sure bush's cabinet is a reflection of him-- the croniest crony of them all.
brkily |
03.01.06 - 1:44 am | #
ralphbon (though you may be asleep): hopefully we who read here do know who the morons are but you are right to make light.
Poor creature, I might say
But what's the use of that
The clock in him is broken
And as for ceremony
Already the leaves have swirled over
the wind has spoken.
Spiderpaws |
03.01.06 - 1:50 am | #
is that your poetry, spiderpaws? what did you think of the Cheddi Jagan piece(written in prison) above?
brkily |
03.01.06 - 2:21 am | #
Number 6.
hoosierville |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 2:37 am | #
if this spectacular interview has been pointed out, i apologize, but it is must reading for fdl'rs.
brkily |
03.01.06 - 2:54 am | #
#3
He compared Dick "5 deferments" "I had other priorities" Cheney to combat veterans.
Riesz Fischer |
03.01.06 - 3:54 am | #
#3
It's a stupid quote, timely, and also slams Cheney at the same time. Cheney being compared to a Vet! Please!
oceanbreeze |
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03.01.06 - 4:13 am | #
#3 - ignorant and heartless
ljt |
03.01.06 - 4:14 am | #
it's tough, but it's gotta be #3
Maryrose |
03.01.06 - 4:19 am | #
So what's so different now as opposed to five years ago, George?
jurassicpork |
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03.01.06 - 4:28 am | #
oh what a fine collection of the whore's gems you've assembled for us tonight Jane, but which shines that sickly green whore-light the most...hmmmmmm
ok so all of them made me vomit in my mouth a little because of the sheer idiocy and flat-out-freaking-factual-wrongness of them all, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and go with #8.
I don't think any of them truly crystallize Klein's whoreship for BushCo just as much as that little nugget.
Sure they are "a reflection of who George W. Bush is and always has been." They're corporatist place-holders, slaves to the larger Party Agenda slashing their way through the safeguards that have been put in place SINCE THE LATE 19TH CENTURY that actually gave us some rights in this country.
And Klein happily spreads this bullshit about "broader, deeper pool of successful nonwhite [ed: male] college graduates." Just who does he have in mind here? Elaine Chao? The odious Gale Norton? Condi-Fucking-Rice? Alberto Gonzales?
And it seems that here's the only time he's actually telling the truth. They sure do represent who "..Bush is and always has been."
And it also represents exactly who's slipping Klein the big one.
(Best pic EVER Jane, excuse me while I bleach my soul.)
Mar in Cville |
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03.01.06 - 4:29 am | #
it is a toss-up between 3 and 6
3 for the pathos and 6 for the irony
i have to go with 6 for timelessness
though the cheney shooter mem is fairly timeless
6 just sinks the whold ball 'o' wax
2 is a prime example of stenography
but 6 is just so full of uninteded introspection
Mack |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 4:36 am | #
i am going for #1-- although all of them are really great representations of this slimeball. hard to pick one particular piece of poop off the dungheap.
angie |
03.01.06 - 4:43 am | #
Cup of I don’t know, Joe, Joe jump off a cliff.
No moe moe Joe, Joe job.
Joe in the box.
The liberal vote goes to #2 or #7 cause no one else voted for them and the real gibbering Joe.
#2 since Kerry’s been picked on enough already.
ppp |
03.01.06 - 4:50 am | #
I vote for 3.
I also want to note a fairly bizarro comment I saw over on Vodkapundit yesterday (a place I would have never gone had it not been for a link here). Someone whined that if it's not ok for non-military to have pro war views, it ought to be equally not ok for non-military to have anti-war views. The mistake in that sort of ultimate effort at "balance" is just breathtaking. Life is the fundamental asymmetry in the universe, after all. It would only be the crassest sort of materialist who could assert this kind of balance. Yet the Right claims to be on the side of morality, life, all that good stuff. They just don't get how deep their muddle reaches. Sorta like how the Administration is ok with destroying what America is to save it from "the other."
Beel |
03.01.06 - 4:56 am | #
the wind has spoken.
Spiderpaws | 03.01.06 - 1:50 am
Hey spiderpaws, your wind has BROKEN, so STFU. What is up with people bitching about the content of this blog the past few days? If you want content control, go start yer own.
op99 |
03.01.06 - 5:11 am | #
gotta go with #6 just beacuse it includes "I'm a so-called journalist"....
And beacuse I'm schizophrenic, I'll go with - nope, we agree this time - #6.
jayt |
03.01.06 - 5:18 am | #
I don't read Time and I'm not familiar with Klein. He doesn't sound like a Democrat. He sounds like Michael Savage.
freefall |
03.01.06 - 5:18 am | #
#3 for the sheer, unmitigated gall he has in comparing Cheney's hunting accident to the horrors of war...what planet is he from?
Jeannie Z |
03.01.06 - 5:21 am | #
OT
Was Bush always "pro-life" except for rape, incest, and 'the life of the mother?'
I don't recall hearing that before-
Maryrose |
03.01.06 - 5:36 am | #
#9. The Democrats were being legalistic and sterile, i.e. they lacked the striking sense of political theater that led the right to whittle an hour's worth of hospital-room video down to 30 seconds where a brain-dead young woman's eyes happen to intersect with her mother's face. And to play that in an endless loop for journalists as criminally gullible as Joe.
fourmorewars |
03.01.06 - 5:44 am | #
This morning I say #8. But each has its "merits".
sola mia |
03.01.06 - 5:53 am | #
Fake-Dem-Out Joe’s fetish for Big Brother is a hangover from too many nights of wankery with talking heads. Doesn’t he know that secret government spying on antiwar protesters like the Quakers has already exceeded all bounds of legality? Nixon was impeached for lying about spying. Bush admits to spying and Joe picks on liberals for demanding accountability. The mind reels. Implying that electronic eavesdropping is harmless if it is “legal” is poisonous spew more damaging to democracy than Joe’s concern for Cheney’s damaged psyche. I vote for #1.
lowdowndog |
03.01.06 - 5:53 am | #
No, on the other hand, #3.
sola mia |
03.01.06 - 5:53 am | #
He does speak the truth in #6: "I'm a so-called journalist"
And #3 is simply staggering in its smarminess.
But I vote for #4--that a "majority of Americans" would favor being spied upon and having their civil rights destroyed "if its details were declassified and made known." The implication being that dear Joe knows all about it, secret details and all. Mendacity central.
Constant Reader |
03.01.06 - 6:10 am | #
Number 3.- The Thousand Yard Stare rambling piece wins hands down. Every paragraph is a winner.
"But Cheney's stubborn diffidence may have been something else entirely: a consequence of the incoherence and confusion that come with emotional trauma, as well as an understandable desire to protect oneself and one's friends from the ravening horde at a moment of personal anguish."
Here's my vote for #2.
Here is Joe passing on press release fodder as his own personal insider information.
cliff steward |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 6:18 am | #
OT
Deja vu all over again.
When he was down in the polls over Katrina
Chimpreznit split for Argentina.
Now that he's plummeted to 34
suffering from aphasia he splits for Asia.
and faces the same music:
"Tens of thousands of people have protested in India ahead of the arrival of US President George W Bush." BBC
He dragged an entourage of 2000 to Argentina.
Imagine the size of this one. And the cost.
ceci |
03.01.06 - 6:28 am | #
I'm embarrassed to admit that I didn't know how abysmally stupid Joe is until I read Pierce's piece and they followed all the links around. Gawd! What an idiot.
I'll also endorse #3. Dick's 1000 yard stares are what he gets after a fifth of Wild Turkey when he jumps behind the wheel of the Escalade and tools drunk as a skunk through the wide-open wilds of Wyoming.
The entire piece feels like something a tenth-grader wrote, then went, "Gosh, Mrs. Jones likes big words. I'll click on the thesaurus." Big words, little, bitty ideas.
churl |
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03.01.06 - 6:31 am | #
Very close is #3. Of course, i'm always partial to any mentions of dickhead shooting that 78 year old man in the face with that fancy, high priced european shotgun. pretty sure it was an italian shotgun but i have heard rumors that it was french.
rusty |
03.01.06 - 6:33 am | #
I'll go with #8 for this line:
"But the Bush Cabinets have also been very much a reflection of who George W. Bush is and always has been."
A has been indeed!
ccmask |
03.01.06 - 6:38 am | #
I vote for #3, btw.
Anonymous |
03.01.06 - 6:41 am | #
For going beyond the obnoxious to the truly insane, I think I have to go with #9. I mean, saying that the Democrats position on Schaivo is completely grounded in law, and there's something wrong with that?
Redshift |
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03.01.06 - 6:41 am | #
Cmmbine 6 and 7 and you have a winner.
" instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity. John Kerry's been having a very bad cheese year. "
F*cker Karlson |
03.01.06 - 6:43 am | #
Why are we wasting bandwidth on Joe Klein?
orangejumpsuit |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 6:47 am | #
Gotta be #4. He "suspects" that a "strong majority" would support NSA spying if the details were known. And he knows this how? This from a man who described Paul Hackett as a "blogger candidate" - all attitude and all opinion with very little info. Better take a look in the mirror Joe.
Who appointed this haughty, unpleasant man spokesperson for liberal dems?
Chrissy |
03.01.06 - 6:48 am | #
# 3
Joe:
The Dissembling Whore Anti-Defamation League called …it appears your membership in the parent organization is being revoked for excessive and abject prostrate-ness.
Spiderpaws: Nice piece of verse, thanks.
ralphbon |
03.01.06 - 6:58 am | #
Little Joe's masquerade as a Demo is so transparent that the NeoConJobs must have been amazed he got away with it all these years.
Little Joe is the King, no make that the Queen, of D.I.N.O.s.
I wonder if Jane and Redd registered as RePubs, and had business cards printed up saying they were "Republican Consultants", if they could then get booked on the pundocracy circuit, speaking for the GOP?
That is the level of deception that Klein and his NeoConJob bossom buddies have pulled off low these many moons.
The Demos really need to purge the Dinos from their ranks before seriously going after the ReThuglicans.
Dinos like Joementum should be the warm up act. Polish techniques and sharpen claws on them first.
If you can't rid yourself of the traitors stabbing you in the back, you'll never overcome your opposition in front of you.
Testing, testing, one ..two..three....
Gentleman Jim |
03.01.06 - 7:00 am | #
Morning gang -- am up and dealing with a couple of things, but will have a post up soon.
ReddHedd |
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03.01.06 - 7:06 am | #
gotta go with 3, though it is hard to beat "heroic thuds of mashed potato" (from the quote in isis2's comment) as a turn of phrase. I guess Wolcott can retire now.
dewar |
03.01.06 - 7:11 am | #
We need to decide whether it's more important to purify our ranks or win control of congress. We will NOT do both.
rwcole |
03.01.06 - 7:12 am | #
he runs for re-election in an unexpectedly close race, Sen. Conrad Burns, R-Mont., is fighting accusations that he was too close to the indicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff, the New York Times plans for Wednesday page ones, RAW STORY has learned.
The article brings the embattled Montana senator to the front page of one of the nation's largest newspapers. Burns has received scant attention outside of his home state and Capitol Hill.
"In the first salvo of the 2006 midterm elections, Democrats have battered Burns with a series of television commercials telling voters that he received more contributions from Abramoff and his associates -- $150,000 -- than any other member of Congress, and charging that he has done more for the lobbyist than he has for Montanans. The attacks have made Abramoff a household name in the state and turned Montana into a closely watched test of the Democrats' efforts to turn allegations of corruption under Republican rule into the unifying theme of their congressional campaigns."
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rwcole |
03.01.06 - 7:15 am | #
in serious danger of epu-- but, look what simpering, nosepicker (yep, with his little finger on cspan) Chris Shays is doing for Joementum.
Researchers can benefit from questioning the motives of commentators who disparage WMR and Madsen's reliability. These people should be considered potential crypto trolls or at best naive.
Klein stands in the proud line of Lieberman Democrats whose service to the nation can be measured by how far they can stick their heads up the President's ass.
purvis ames |
03.01.06 - 7:35 am | #
The Great Uniter is at it again:
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Tens of thousands of Muslims and communists took to the streets across India on Wednesday, protesting against the visit of U.S. President George W. Bush, hours before his arrival.
Some choice slogans:
"Go back, Bush," "Bush is a killer," "Bully Bush, buzz off," "Bush, stop the ambush," they shouted as hundreds of policemen in riot gear kept watch.
George W. Bush-making the world safe for hypocracy.
-GSD
Granite State Destroyer |
03.01.06 - 7:38 am | #
Atrios has a link to the Today Show on which Tweety refers to the preznit's "habitual problem of incompetence" among other similar comments. Is it April fools? Oh, no, it's only March!
What is it about these beltway pundits that they go all misty eyed over faux tough guys like Cheney and Bush? Is it a case of phony tough guys sticking together?
Alvord |
03.01.06 - 8:12 am | #
# 3
What the hell does number 8 even mean?
I like the nice contradiction between 6 and 7:
Focus on substance, dammit!! vs.
My God!! Kerry ordered the wrong kind of CHEESE on his SANDWICH!!
Rabble-rousing Christian, harsh critic of Big Money, champion of the working man, William Jennings Bryan was the original American populist -- and politicians from Wallace to Clinton to George W. Bush are his grandchildren.
punaise |
03.01.06 - 8:53 am | #
#3. he hit bottom and kept going.
Woodrowfan |
03.01.06 - 9:18 am | #
I like #9.
#3 comes in second, but is too specific and 9 seems to say more about Klein as a wingnut pretender. Barney Frank and "raucous Humanity"? He's a lot more dignified than Klein.
zennurse |
03.01.06 - 9:23 am | #
#3
Read the Charles P Pierce link for the explanantion.
Fred |
03.01.06 - 9:48 am | #
surpise, the whole article is crap.
Flamethrower |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 9:58 am | #
Someone posted:
"Why are we wasting bandwidth on Joe Klein?"
Because we need to have his virtual head on a virtual stick.
.
Gentleman Jim |
03.01.06 - 10:02 am | #
Here's one of my choices for most repugnant Klein moment, as I wrote in a letter to TIME Dec 2005:
"How can you (TIME) justify this Klein comment about Howard Dean being "gleeful" about our status in Iraq and where Klein removes a key word from Dean's original quote FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASON EXCEPT to fit Klein's misleading premise:
What Dean said: "The idea that we’re gonna win this war is an idea that unfortunately is just plain wrong."
Here is Klein' editing of Dean's quote: ""The idea that we are going to win this war ... is just plain wrong." And then Klein goes on to say: "If Dean had added the word militarily, most generals would agree with him. The trouble is, Dean—as always—seemed downright gleeful about the bad news. He seemed to be rooting for defeat."
NO, IF KLEIN HAD KEPT IN DEAN's WORD "UNFORTUNATELY" THEN KLEIN COULDN'T SAY THAT DEAN WAS ROOTING FOR DEFEAT.
This is terribly sloppy and DELIBERATELY misleading. TIME should be ashamed."
bren |
03.01.06 - 10:46 am | #
No. 6 for sure: "I am a so-called journalist."
Truer words were never spoken.
RTDavis |
03.01.06 - 10:48 am | #
“You know, at this point, the Democrats are a party with absolutely no redeeming social value.”
– Joe Klein, The Chris Matthews Show, 6/12/2005
SteveD |
03.01.06 - 10:53 am | #
Whoa.....#3.
That really takes the cake.
Dick Cheney as traumatized combat veteran.
And haunted hunter. For whom the pleasures of automobile-aided domesticated-quail safaris are no longer.
Lobstergirl |
03.01.06 - 10:54 am | #
for some reason my posts haven't been getting through, if they show up sorry for the multiples.
#3 without a doubt. Comparing Dick "Six Deferments" Cheney to a shellshocked combat veteran takes a special kind of chutzpah!
Jim in Chicago |
03.01.06 - 11:07 am | #
Oh, was it only 5 deferments? I feel so much better about Cheney and his "other priorities" now.
Jim in Chicago |
03.01.06 - 11:11 am | #
#4, becuase "most polls indicate" is SUCH a sack of dung. Can't wait to see what the rest of the semi-finalists will be (other than #3, which seems to be WAY out in front of the pack...)
Marion G. Paquin |
03.01.06 - 11:18 am | #
It's #3 for all the reasons stated above.
All print journalists are guilty of thinking #6.
#3 reaches a level of Olympian cluelessness.
djinn |
03.01.06 - 11:29 am | #
#6
I always go for the introspective pieces that leave you at a loss for words. With Joe's selection, I'm forced to go for hte instrospective piece that left him at a loss for word.
A "so-called journalist" is the best Mr. Wordsmith can craft for himself?
Explain this again to me. People pay him to be what he himself describes as a "so-called journalist?"
Put in that context, you can understand why they book him as a Democrat too.
Mary |
03.01.06 - 11:33 am | #
#4, for the very thought that most Americans are so stupid that they would support the trashing of the Constitution.
Sandia Blanca |
03.01.06 - 11:47 am | #
#9. How dare the Democrats be restrained and lawabiding? There was demagoging to be done.
Emma Anne |
03.01.06 - 12:31 pm | #
For crrrreepy Klein quotedom, if somebody could find that piece he wrote-- I think it was before he outed himself as Anonymous, but it might have been at the time of his outing -- when he described his wife asking whether she would be having sex with him as himself or with him as Anonymous that night, that's a good one. It was in one of the newsweeklies, way back when.
Klein would be a joke, if he weren't so destructive.
john |
Homepage |
03.01.06 - 1:30 pm | #
that's all i needed to read from 6. was he embedded or something?
travy |
03.01.06 - 10:52 pm | #
Have to go with #3. Sounds like something someone at Foxnews or on Team Bush handed him.
McSmitty |
03.02.06 - 3:36 am | #
Gotta be #3 - poor dickie, no one cares how much he suffers
But #5 pissed me off. Talk about being out of touch! The populist line is just another Rethug talking point. He should get out of 20050 more often and tak to some real people. Sheesh.
Mommybrain |
03.02.06 - 11:23 am | #
I vote for No. 6:
"I'm a so-called journalist who views his job as doing the legwork and then calling them as I see them."
Judging from Klein's doglike performance on such issues as Bush's Social Security and NSA surveillance program, his idea of "legwork" is to lap up the "inside" story from the administration and then leg it to his laptop. Which makes his legwork roughly akin to lifting it up to pee on a hydrant.
The public being the hydrant, of course.
As for "calling them as he sees them," this apparently is to remind us that Klein is a straight shooter, an icon of integrity, right? Nevermind the six months that he baldfacedly lied about his authorship of Primary Colors.
Actually, what we do know is that when Klein "sees 'em," it's always through that special Joe Klein Kaleidoscope (available at Self Service aisles everywhere), which just happens to be remarkably similar to the Karl Rove Kaleidoscope.
"And I'm tired of civilians of the left and the right who, in their infinite wisdom, spew vituperative nonsense instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity."
Speaking as a journalist who tries to listen, it seems to me that what the public is tired of is asking substantive questions of journalists -- particularly regarding their piss-poor journalistic standards -- and being treated like they're spewing vituperative nonsense.
David Neiwert |
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03.02.06 - 12:06 pm | #
6. "I'm a so-called journalist who views his job as doing the legwork and then calling them as I see them. And I'm tired of civilians of the left and the right who, in their infinite wisdom, spew vituperative nonsense instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity."
The attempt to distance himself from "civilians [who] spew vituperative nonsense instead of asking substantive questions when they have the opportunity" is so gallingly hypocritical, elitist and unreflective of his own inanity, that you know its Klein.
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