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Fitz!


If Democrats = Progressives
does that mean that Republicans = Regressives?

possible new meme brand?


Is there no level to which these people won't stoop?

(That was a rhetorical question.)


To follow-up on my own post in the previous thread. Here are a few links re Pat Tillman’s feelings about Bush/Iraq. Judge for yourself.

http://www.ivaw.net/index.php?id=175

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ ar...MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL

http://www.truthout.org/docs_200...5/ 110605Z.shtml


Feingold!


I ask that question because everything they seem to do and want to do means going backwards.


she was particularly disgusting during her testimony before the Indian Affairs Committee

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/...id=f: 22150.wais


angie - I so agree. A transcript can't really do it justice. All the "poor me - I didn't know jack" was so unbelievable. All that "I thought I was writing a check for a charitable undertaking" BULL.

blech blech blech


Mary-- didnja just know she was so full of poo? I felt so slimed listening to her.


there's a good, old-fashioned accurate word for Republicans today: reactionaries.
We are progressives but they react and try to stop us...


Shez and Mui,
Would you mind dropping me a traditional e-mail? Use the link if you wouldn't mind.

I am off to catch up with the last episodes of 24 I missed while fighting the fight at school -- will write back to you on e-mail tomorrow.


Sorry--
NYDN at whatnursesknow dot com


I'm never quite OT - but here is great story re: Condi and Hamas.


http://www.realcities.com/mld/kr...on/ 14012534.htm

I understand why, when she was NSA, she was constantly startled and stunned that she had been given memos and info from various depts of govt that - had she only read them - would have had useful information.

HOwever, now that she is the actual S of State, surely she can read THOSE reports?
No.

Despite a State Dept commissioned poll that warned Hamas was likely to win the elctions, Rice has directed State Dept officials (who told her it was coming) to determine "why nobody saw it coming"

Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy, sums it up best (punaise hint)

"This is secrecy squared ... It's one thing to keep secrets from the public. But whe the bureaucracy is keeping secrets from itself, policy is compromised."

But would you have wanted to go have a cup of coffee when policy wasn't compromised?


another word about Pat Tillman : cute!
he was one good-looking hunk-o-man...


yep angie - but some of those congresscritters really bent over backwards to be nicey nice to her.

one more blech.


Are Amy and her husband David in the ex-gay movement?

Just askin'.

http://www.project21.org/ StaffAR...idenourHead.jpg


Just finished reading the non-graphic-novel version of "V for Vendetta'. The parallels are clear - but whether it will wake up the sheeple who go to see it is another question.

I suspect it may be, as James Wolcott says, the movie we've been needing since 9/11.


that photo is a good argument for abstinence ! quick -- give her a Bush grant!


ET, Frank Probst:

From last thread, re Tillman.

This SF Chronicle acticle has a lot of the details.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/ a/2005/09/25/MNGD7ETMNM1.DTL

There is a lot of detail on the many odd (and completely not beleivable) aspects of the story, but re: the shooting itself

The soldier next to him testified: “I could hear the pain in his voice as he called out, ‘Cease fire, friendlies, I am Pat f—ing Tillman, dammit.” He said this over and over until he stopped, having been hit by three bullets in the forehead, killing him.

...the medical examiner’s report said Tillman was killed by three bullets closely spaced in his forehead...

Not all that friendly, were they?


That's not Amy that's Denny H. in powdered blue.


Why are republicans always so ugly, dorky or nerdy looking? just curious.


OK all done running around the room pulling out gobs of hair after banging my head on the walls and clawing my skin. Make these sick whackos STOP!

Preying on our Elders disgusts me to no end. What do we have to do? Can we pledge a percentage of our ActBlue type money to produce our own flyers to warn The People? Order imprinted placemats for senior citizen dinner halls? I mean christ almighty our poor Elders being scammed so bad, I'm really starting to pray there is a hell afterall. Even that would be too cushy for these vermin.


BREAKING: CONGRESS TO DISBAND
"No point in our being here, if the President can decide everything..."

Hope all here will send emails to members of the Intelligence Committee supporting the Tuesday vote on Rockefeller's proposed investigation.

Frist is trying to change the rules of the committee to prevent this. Boooooo.

My emails included the idea that if Congress can no longer investigate the executive branch, Congress might as well disband.


OT, but Jane wanted to be sure you saw the NYT article on Santorum vs. Casey, and Casey's support for Alito.

"Mr. [Charles] Schumer said he "got some real flak, particularly in the pro-choice community," when he began advancing the Casey candidacy.

(Even now, Kate Michelman, the former president of Naral Pro-Choice America, angered over Mr. Casey's support for the confirmation of Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., has indicated that she is pondering an independent candidacy for the seat.)"

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/ 0...artner=homepage


Kirby, if you are there: Blessings, light and love. You did good!


India

Nukes for mangoes

Wasn't moeman over here waxing poet about the virtues of mangoes several days ago??


My mum recently passed away.

It is amazing the crap she got/gets.

I saved some of it (hopefully from NCPPR), if you need copies, I'd be happy to pass them on.

I'm talking about, in addition to the intimidation from mrs Amy, also the Minutemen, Gilchrist, and every other whack job out there.


from the last thread:
letting Katrina fester in New Orleans was a deliberate strategy on Rove's part to make a Democratic run state look weak, and unable to govern itself

Some of us had similar thoughts about the government's inaction during the power crisis in California. We're pretty sure that it was inaction in hopes of protecting Kenny-boy Lay, but also in hopes that CA government would be completely jammed up, as a justification for sending in the military.


That's ONE UGLY PICTURE- holy shit!


Mangoes are great for kids! They fall off the trees when ripe. If overly-ripe, they get real mushy and make wonderful messy substitutes for snowballs...


Jeebus! Theres only one word for that picture. FUUUUUUUUUGLY!


social mange


I love the way you turn a phrase. lol.


Is this the same company that was involved in the college Republican fundraising shenanigans in '04?
College Republicans' Fundraising Criticized


it seems that amy ridenour has a blog.

she might want some input on her wonderful scare tactics she uses on senior citizens with limited budgets to get money from them.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/20...ctim- again.html


In CA, they needed an excuse to get the Dem governor recalled. Mission accomplished. Boytoy repub tool in place.


kirby, will do, copied your addie.

egregious @ 5:33pm, love that idea. If siun is around it would be a great petition to start just to make a point, disband our useless corrupted Congress. Hell start two, make the second one to disband our government and start over since both right now are doing more harm to America than anything else. Arrrghhh.


Ya think some poor gooper wakes up ta that woman every morning? Holy fuckin shit- no wonder they're mean!


Oh but they be good at this. Notice how they escalate.

Page 1 - no mention of politicians.
Page 2, first reference - greedy politicians
Second reference - Senate liberals
Third - liberals in Congress [plateau there]
Fourth - radical liberals

Now they're on a roll

Fifth - liberal big spenders
Sixth - [reckless] left-wing

The only thing they missed was how these liberal hounds from hell plan to come over and tear out your throat.

Before my mother died, her Alzheimer's would have made her susceptable to such scare tactics and she wouldn't have told family members about it.



I ask that question because everything they seem to do and want to do means going backwards.
Rubber Soul | 03.04.06 - 5:02 pm |

nutshell version:

Conservative - pessimistic, driven primarily by fear, always looking to a 'Golden Age' in the past that never really existed.

Progressive - optimistic, driven primarily by hope, always looking to a 'Golden Age' in the future that will never really exist.

Since nothing in life is perfect, I'll take the Progressive's 2 out of 3 ain't bad approach over the Conservative's 0 for 3, any day.


Some dirt on NCPPR and Ridenour:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ index...Moritz_Ridenour
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ index...Policy_Research
http://www.mediatransparency.org....php? storyID=61

Hard to know where to start in posting "teaser" quotes, so I just say... read the last link, if nothing else. It's a stunner. Vile, vile, vile. Anti- environment and Kyoto accord, pro tobacco lobbying, anti-affirmative action, anti- minimum wage==According to Holland, "NCPPR's directors are also all white" and one of them was Jack Abramoff, the man that is figuring prominently in the current DeLay scandal. Abramoff, a GOP lobbyist and Bush "Pioneer" --===


That woman is the reason that my dad's 100 year old cousin is living without Social Security today. She convinced her it was going out of business and Jeannette dropped out. Fortunately, she has money to cover her expenses, but there will be a lot less for her to pass on when she goes. Thanks, Amy! :(


When he was told of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, FDR quickly started calling various departments and doling out orders with precision and clarity. The contrast between FDR's reaction and Bush's is astounding.
Bob Adams
*****

Both of them knew in advance.

Why are WWII records still classified?

What is the melting temperature of steel?


Atrios has a picture of a woman who is at the Republican Convention wearing a silly button covered hat and a purple band aid on one of her many her chins.

She is really hideous (sorry, but she is).

No wonder Republican men are so angry.


pigboy good catch. Her email is:

aridenour@nationalcenter.org

Some tough love, anyone?


May Foggogate and CIFAgate Bury Goss first - not that it's likely. *s*

The retaliation against the whistleblowers is getting fierce -and in its own way, WaPo plays along - calling them "leakers" and not whistleblowers and never really dwelling on the govt criminality in the actions "leaked"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...6030400867.html

White Houe Traines Efforts on Media Leaks

"There's a tone of gleeful relish in the way they talk about dragging reporters before grand juries, their appetite for withholding information, and the hints that reporters who look too hard into the public's business risk being branded traitors," said New York Times Executive Editor Bill Keller, in a statement responding to questions from The Washington Post. "I don't know how far action will follow rhetoric, but some days it sounds like the administration is declaring war at home on the values it professes to be promoting abroad."

While I agree - Bill - how much did you and other MSM contribute to just that very thing?

Bush administration officials -- who complain that reports about detainee abuse, clandestine surveillance and other topics have endangered the nation during a time of war -- have arguably taken a more aggressive approach than other recent administrations, including a clear willingness to take on journalists more directly if necessary.
Ok - guys - NO ONE is going to say things like "illegal detainee abuse, illegal clandestine surveillance, etc.?" Not even "controversial and possibly illegal"??

Uh - can you say "enablers"?

Goss is putting employees through polygraphs (btw - am I the only one that would be disappointed in a CIA agent who couldn't beat a polygraph?) and is discouraging media contact. Remember Mr. "our job is to support the President - not do real intelligence analysis" Goss?

"It is my aim, and it is my hope, that we will witness a grand jury investigation with reporters present being asked to reveal who is leaking this information," Goss told a Senate committee.

I am so hoping that before we even get to that date, we get some determination that these programs are ILLEGAL and then perhaps Mr. Goss can "splain" how they are going around classifying illegal activity.

But - in an end run, Pat Roberts has that figured out. Let's just criminalize "more stuff"

Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), chairman of the Senate intelligence committee, said last month that he is considering legislation that would criminalize the leaking of a wider range of classified information than what is now covered by law. The measure would be similar to earlier legislation that was vetoed by President Bill Clinton in 2000 and opposed by then-Attorney General John D. Ashcroft in 2002.

Jay Rockefellar is hanging in there and throwing back at them that they are doing the most leaking. The WaPo letter only mentions LIbby's NIE leak, but I saw Rockefellers letter and he does a LOVELY job with all the classified info access Bush gave Woodward, as per Woodward's own words.

Downie of WaPo is quoted on his "concern" that Goss is being a bit "aggressiv" and gives us this:
Downie noted that The Post had at times honored government requests not to report particularly sensitive information, such as the location of CIA prisons in Eastern Europe.

Hmmm - so, let's see if I understand how this works. Those prisons that the Govt swears it doesn't have; is being investigated for in international legal proceedings; and which would be illegal under lo these many laws - Downie knows about but is helping to cover up.

Can't some Swiss guy just pick him up, put a bag on his head, and render him out to Europe and put his butt in jail for conspiracy?

Between whistleblowers, torture memos, Iraq, and warrantless surveillance programs - it's just hard to be a happy camper.


Great post, but a small correction.
In the sentence:
It is also critical that you share this pertinent information ONLY [sic] with other trustworthy individuals.

ONLY (sic) should be ONLY (my emphasis) or something similar.

"sic" in latin means "just as" and is to be used when quoting someone with a clear grammatical or logical error and you want to disassociate with the writer.

In this case, the quoted sentence was grammatically and logically correct. We may disagree - and many of us do - with the stated position, but it does not make it a logically fallacy. The way you want to isolate it is by putting your own emphasis.


"It is also critical that you share this pertinent information ONLY [sic] with other trustworthy individuals."

Kinda like a molester sez to a kid, "this is our secret game, and you must never tell anyone!"

These fleecers and scumbags are sick and twisted. I've seen the agony their letters produce among old and confused citizens -- it's heartbreaking. I hope this Amy Ridenour bitch goes down hard.

Thanks for amplifying this, Jane.


Ridenour is an abuser of the weakest, most vulnerable and defenseless among us. The elderly. This vulgar and thoroughly offensive piece of work appalls the sensibilites. I can think of no truer human transgression than assailing the old. May God not have mercy on her soul.


Here's a brief Ridenour bio: [link] Seems she's been up to her eyeballs in this crap since forever. Yep, Deputy Director of the College Republican National Committee.


when i went to her blog i first thought that mottled background was an extreme closeup of her face. unfortunate webdesign moment.


Thanks for the Amy blog address, Pigboy. You inspired me to send her a quick, sweet note.

Dear Amy:

I've recently read the letters you were sending to seniors scaring the bejesus out of them over Social Security, and all I can say is that there is a special place in hell for you, lady. May you rot there for all eternity.

And not that it matters, but your blog is seriously ugly.


ecoast -- not my [sic], Raw Story's.

Does that mean I need two [sic]'s?


Was she separated at birth from Rove?


sic 'em, Jane!


it seems that amy ridenour has a blog.

she might want some input on her wonderful scare tactics she uses on senior citizens with limited budgets to get money from them.

http://www.nationalcenter.org/20...ctim- again.html


That blog of hers is indeed the ugliest format I've ever seen...the mold on those moldy pages just seem slimey, like I've just opened some rotting old book in a dank, oft-flooded basement....yecchhh!


She not only cons and steals from the elderly, she looks like she would not hesitate eating off of your plate when you weren't looking


Is more than one sic sicii?

The Chicago Salah case had arguments on Friday.

So, will Fitzgerald & staff be arguing in that case that Judy is a good reliable witness?

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story...tive& id=3959600

They sure seem to be living linked lives - Libby, the Islamic charities calls, Salah.


Well, thanks to Jane for so skillfully introducing yet another Republican scumbag cheesebucket in our midst. Seems each day there is yet another larvae infested rock to overturn, the endless disgust.
Amy and Hastert were definitely separated at birth. I hope she fries to a frizzle for the fraud she and Abramoff and their vast league of two-bit depraved power mad Republican thieves have committed on seniors, people who truly deserve to be set free of Bush's relentless Fear Manifesto.


Thanks for the Amy blog address, Pigboy. You inspired me to send her a quick, sweet note.

Dear Amy:

I've recently read the letters you were sending to seniors scaring the bejesus out of them over Social Security, and all I can say is that there is a special place in hell for you, lady. May you rot there for all eternity.

And not that it matters, but your blog is seriously ugly.
sfmike | Homepage | 03.04.06 - 6:22 pm | #

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What an inspiring letter :) I hope she does find that special place in hell with promises of cool glasses of water from her very own little devil.


http://www.mediatransparency.org....php? storyID=61

===Jack Abramoff, the Washington lobbyist who was a member of NCPPR's Board of Directors, is a "central figure" in investigations "into alleged ethical improprieties by his close friend House Majority Leader Tom DeLay"===

===During the past few weeks, as news of the group's involvement with the beleaguered House Majority Leader surfaced, press accounts have consistently failed to accurately describe the NCPPR.===

===The National Center has a well-established funding stream from conservative foundations. Between 1985 and 2002 the organization received more than $2 million from such right wing heavy weights such as the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, the Castle Rock Foundation, the Randolph Foundation, the Roe Foundation, and an array of foundations controlled by Richard Mellon Scaife.===

===In the words of DeLay -- prominently advertised on the National Center's Web site -- "The National Center is THE CENTER for conservative communications."
---Nearly 2,000 opinion pieces by National Center staff were published by newspapers in 2002 and 2003. According to its website, "responding quickly" to emerging issues is the "hallmark" of its work.===

===A week before the 35th anniversary of Earth Day (April 22), NCPPR turned its attention to environmental issues, setting up a one-stop information outlet for Earth Day called the Earth Day Information Center. ---Most of the advertised speakers were long-time well-known anti-environmentalists who are involved in a number of anti-environmental organizations, think tanks and public policy outfits..."This isn't your typical green-washing effort," Silver concluded. "This is hard-core anti-environmental ideologues presenting themselves as spokespersons for Earth Day 2005."===

===Project 21: A Mouthpiece for Conservative African Americans---They've argued, among other things, that African Americans will benefit from President Bush's plan to privatize Social Security; suggested that the NAACP, the nation's oldest civil rights organization, should pursue "a more centrist course than the one it has been on for the past 40 years"; maintained that Black civil rights leaders have turned Martin Luther King, Jr.'s dream into a "nightmare"; and claimed that the notion of "environmental justice" hurts black communities.---But they're not just reaching out to the community. They also speak out publicly for conservative positions that might evoke charges of racism if advocated by whites. And while that's not to say that there aren't some Blacks who embrace conservative values, the groups that claim to represent them are heavily financed by business interests and often run by white Republicans. ---The Project "also received funding from R.J. Reynolds and 'has lobbied in support of tobacco industry interests, opposing FDA regulation of the industry, excise taxes and other government policies to reduce tobacco use,' the Center for Media and Democracy reported. ===
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I've found the perfect job for Ridenour (besides cleaning toilets in a prison for life, I mean): Walmart Director of Global Ethics.
http://www.foxnews.com/ printer_f...,186752,00.html
Pretty twisted, hm? In our brave new world, she'd be perfect for this.


Janie,

Please, when does this nightmare end?!! Even if we take back our government including the executive thru impeachment, we don't have the political/legal institutions or the treasury or economy left to get our future back to what it was in 1999. The chaos created by the deliberate distruction of our political, civil and economic infrastructure has brought the world very close to the "end of days".

Please help me out here...I jest spent the day at new student open house at a major university for my 18 year old and she is SOOOO excited about getting it on next year and takin on the demons in the world. I dispair of the world we offer her and the future these nazi bastards have taken from her..."give me somethin ta hold on to", my kid's got my Bonnie Raitt album and I quit smokin the good stuff while I'm on this diet. Tell me, we're gunna wake up and everything is gunna be ok...at least for the kids.

KEEP THE FAITH IT'S ALL THEY'VE LEFT US!!


How about this for a fright letter:

"If you do not send money now to buy massive quantities of raw meat for this person, she could very well eat you."


Does anyone read Voice of the White House? Supposedly an insider.


http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/...hives/ a2170.htm

The Voice of the White House

March 2, 2006 : “There is growing concern inside both the White House and among senior Republicans in Washington , that if VP Cheney doesn’t resign of his own free will or is forced out of office, the Republicans will, in turn, be forced out of office in November. Even Diebold and Jeb Bush can’t corrupt nationwide elections, like they did in Florida in 2000, and the continuous imbecility and arrogance of the current Administration is becoming widely evident, even in the Bible Belt. The American media, whores to the end, have been cooperating with Bush by hiding important information. The New York Times knew a year before they finally published it about Bush’s determination to spy on everybody in the United States via the NSA and the entire media was aware of the FEMA Katrina tapes wherein Bush is clearly shown, contrary to his pathetic bleating denials later, that he was fully aware of the pending disaster…and did nothing, later trying to blame FEMA head Brown for his, and the grossly incompetent Chertoff’s, manifest inaction. Bush was, by growing rumor, drunk at Crawford and Chertoff is a moron and a sycophant of the worst order…a typical backside licking Bush toady and as useless as tits on a boar pig.”


Tim Gasbag Russert says today:

"You talk to Republicans privately and they are petrified. They see 1994 all over again, except this time not a sweep by the Republicans, but a sweep by the Democrats". Yesssss! Has our time finally come? Keep the pressure on. Punch when they're up, kick 'em when they're down!


checked aforementioned website-- how dare the purveyor of such kaka use pseudo archival mottling for her dumb website so as to elicit imagery of our Constitution or Declaration of Independence? oh yeah, she poops on them and we, the people.


Woah: big news -- We're cutting and running after all. Big Surprise.

http://www.dailykos.com/


UK, US to withdraw Iraq forces by early '07
by DarkSyde
Sat Mar 04, 2006 at 06:05:40 PM PDT

Via The Next Hurrah: UK, US to withdraw Iraq forces by early '07:

[Link] The United States and Britain are planning to pull all their troops out of Iraq by the spring of 2007, two British newspapers reported in their Sunday editions, quoting unnamed senior defense ministry sources.
The Sunday Telegraph said the planned pull-out followed an acceptance by the two governments that the presence of foreign troops in Iraq was now a large obstacle to securing peace.

Hard to say if this is accurate. But a complete bail out a year from now--a full blown cut and run stampede as opposed to a facade draw down timed for the upcoming midterms this November--is consistent with what several military experts on various cable news channels have opined for some time now; that the US can't sustain the troop levels and mix of specialties in Iraq for much longer. Not without a significant change in recruiting numbers or military commitments elsewhere. Or a draft.

Two observations if this does play out: 1) Murtha was right, 2) The Republicans Lost the War. Remember that last point when the GOP/Rove machine cranks up to blame the ensuing chaos in Iraq on Democrats or administration critics. It really says it all.

And of course, if Iraq is the central front in the War on 'Terra' as the brigades of chicken hawks and legions of screaming harpies have been howling for three years now, then the Republicans Lost the War on Terror. Hopefully, future progressive and moderate candidates won't be afraid to say it that bluntly.

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OK, lawhead response.

Am I reading this right, Jane?

People send out letters via the mail, and the claim they are copyrighted?

Huh? Just about impossible unless every recipient of the letter either ageed in advance, or at the time they received it, that they would abide by the copyright when they read the letter --

whish is insane.

You made the point. The cease and desist letter was intimidation, nothing more.

And if it was sent by a lawyer, they should have a bar action filed against them.

The more I see, the more I think disbarring a few of these fucks is the answer. Make the protected self-regulating industry (the bar) self-regulate or face legislative/judicial consequences. I would love to get into that project (in a year or so).


KEEP THE FAITH IT'S ALL THEY'VE LEFT US!!
NorskeFlamethrower | 03.04.06 - 6:35 pm | #

That would be nice. It isnt the case.


These evil bastards have so subverted the nation, in depth and detail, that it cant be corrected - in my opinion.

What is it that you plan to correct? How will you know? You do understand that the interesting information is either classified - dont look for it unless you would like to visit gitmo - or it is scrubbed. You do understand they - early on - placed their own archivists in place to change history.

... and the entire congress - I dont want to hear about 8 or 9 that voted differently - supported an even more robust police state by passing patriot II.

Who is going to change what? Those that voted for patriot II?

They have stolen every election including the one in 2000 - they own the process. Do any of them look the least bit nervous? How about Frist who just today announced that if the Senate intelligence committee even considered investigating the NSA spying he would destroy the intelligence committee. Is he afraid? ... no, he is running for president.

Does it concern you at all to see that no one ---- NO ONE, is concerned about the 06 elections ... after all that has happened and has been revealed? Indictments? Convictions? Deaths in the thousands? Open looting of the treasury? ... and they arent opennly panicked about what will happen to them following democratic victories in 06? In fact, they have open and literally vulgar support from DEMOCRATS.

Fix what? The 06 elections should be a political blood bath. Given their universal disdain, it seems clear to me that the fix is in - and they know it.

The real question is - what will happen when ... under these conditions ... they 'win' in 06? My guess is the 100 million gutless citizens will whine and turn on the TV.

Fix what?

I fear its already been 'fixed'.


I'm quite suspicious of the UK story about withdrawal in 2007. I seem to recall an earlier UK story about US major draw-down before the 2006 US elections.
The other 'kicker' is the proviso: assuming there is no all-out civil war. It seems likely there will be an escalation of the current civil war in Iraq which will 'unfortunately' necessitate continued US troop presence...


amy ridenour = mike moore in a wig


===Copyright 2005 Roll Call, Inc. Roll Call June 22, 2005
Amy Ridenour, president of the National Center for Public Policy Research, is also on the witness list. Her organization paid for overseas trips by DeLay, his wife and top aides to Moscow and the United Kingdom, junkets that are pivotal to the anticipated ethics probe of the powerful Texas Republican. The MississippiChoctaws steered more than $1 million to the group at Abramoff's request.===

===Copyright 2005 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp. The Hill June 23, 2005
The Center's chief executive officer, Amy Ridenour, a friend of Abramoff's from their time as College Republicans in the early '80s, testified that Abramoff told her the money was part of an "educational project to tell the American people ... the very impressive story of the ... Choctaw Indians."
She accepted an additional $1.5 million contribution in 2003. Abramoff directed her to route that money to the Capitol Athletic Foundation and a company named Kaygold.===
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Jane, ask Judy. ;)


Is Amy what Anne ( Coulter ) looks like on the inside?

Or are they both simply two sides of a very ugly cointerfeit coin?

OT but Jane Fonda, who remains beautiful, has taken a recent opportunity to demand coalition forces leave Iraq and labled the conflict disgusting and despicable.
Love you Jane ( and Jane and RH )

I would spit tobacco juice in Amy's face but I don't chaw...yet.


I wonder -- can you blog from the slam? whoops
Jane, ask Judy. ;)
angie | 03.04.06 - 6:53 pm


O.K. Amy's blog is pretty ugly. Its positively grotesque. In fact it is a case study of right wingish moral turpitude. I almost had a chuckle over the "NAACP claiming victim again."
(Knocking my head over the complete *freaks* that are Delay's best buds.) Where do they find these people????

kirby | 03.04.06 - 5:13 pm | #
Will do!


OMG--her blog background--it's like they're using a photo of her mottled, sickly-looking stomach slab as the wallpaper---WTF!


From a daily Kos linked scan of the letter:

P.S. This is an urgent, private communication to only my most trusted members. Please follow my instructions -- there is no time to waste.

Slimeball.


Ridenour is a three-time loser -- fat, ugly and Republican.

Make it four times, when her bullshit copyright suit is laughed out of court.


How can we be "cutting and running" when we are currently building lots of bases in Iraq? I think we are going to be there in some capacity for a very long time.

http://www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

"The supplemental funding bill for the war in Iraq signed by President Bush in early May 2005 provides money for the construction of bases for U.S. forces that are described as "in some very limited cases, permanent facilities." Several recent press reports have suggested the U.S. is planning up to 14 permanent bases in Iraq— a country that is only twice the size of the state of Idaho. Why is the U.S. building permanent bases in Iraq?

In May 2005, United States military forces in Iraq occupied 106 bases, according to a report in the Washington Post.1 Military commanders told that newspaper they eventually planed to consolidate these bases into four large airbases at Tallil, Al Asad, Balad and either Irbil or Qayyarah.

But other reports suggest the U.S. military has plans for even more bases: In April 2003 report in The New York Times reported that "the U.S. is planning a long-term military relationship with the emerging government of Iraq, one that would grant the Pentagon access to military bases and project American influence into the heart of the unsettled region."2 According to the Chicago Tribune, U.S. engineers are focusing on constructing 14 "enduring bases," to serve as long-term encampments for thousands of American troops.3

As of mid-2005, the U.S. military had 106 forward operating bases in Iraq, including what the Pentagon calls 14 "enduring" bases (twelve of which are located on the map) – all of which are to be consolidated into four mega-bases."


Foggo their rights to practice law?


Her ideas ae ugly enough -- no reason to go after her sorry looks or aesthetic choices.


Did I just hear the foggo horn in the distance?

All not clear.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp...5081101752.html

===Abramoff got his start in politics as an organizer for Ronald Reagan while attending Brandeis University in 1980. Shortly afterward, he made his first connections to others who would command influence in Washington when he became the head of the College Republican National Committee in 1981. One of his predecessors was Karl Rove, and three of his colleagues in the group at the time -- Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed and Amy Ridenour -- would later play helpful roles in Abramoff's Washington work.===
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I feel like I've wandered onto a winger site hatin' on Hillary.

:(

Let's just hate her for who she is -- she gives us many, many reasons.


Nice work Valley Girl-- thank you.


My e mail to Amy:

How utterly despicable of you to prey on frightened, old people. As a conservative Republican, I am sure that you (like that depraved scam artist, Ralph Reed) brandish your "devout" Christian faith whenever it is politically expedient.

Of course, vicious scammers like you and Ralph are the antithesis of a true Christian, and I hope that you suffer the fate that Jesus promises to those who hurt the weak and vulnerable among us.

Hell is really too good a place for you. But, it will have to do.


a winger site hating on Hillary is based on lies and deceptions. Here we are uncovering a 'new' liar and deceiver so as to deal better with cleansing the political pool.


I've read "The Voice of the White House (VOTWH) " several times but I thought it was suppose to be satire -- i.e. a 'fictional' insider.

I realize that they don't state this explicitly on the site but the whole scenario is rather improbable. In such scenario's, Occam's Razor applies.

Also, I've noticed TBR has begun selling back copies of VOTWH.

What do you think about the VOTWH... real... or fictional? News... or entertainment? So hard to tell these days.

-x-


Valley Girl is amazin'!

And I think the background on Ridenours blog must represent the stone slabs God handed to Charlton Heston in that movie.


I take very seriously when Jane and Redd tell us to (a) contact our congresspeople, (b) send letters to papers, media; (c) send money to a particular candidate. This is one of the ways action might concerted and powerful.

And I love the well reasoned and supported letters that many of you write. And I understand that well-reasoned and rhetorically powerful letters are the kind that get printed in newspapers.

But I wonder the importance of writing well reasoned letters to our congresspeople. I have heard nothing to suggest that they are anything but scanned and classified by their topic and the side they take by office people, and then numbers are reported to staffers and the congressperson herself. Does anyone have any definite knowledge that this is not true?

I think that when we write we get classified on three vectors: (a) what opinion I state; (b) whether call, email or paper. I think paper is most powerful, then call, and least forceful is email, because it is the easiest to do.; (c) geographic location.

So I write short letters with clear headings ("Intelligence Committee and Frist" for instance) and two or three short and clearly written sentences. I think that is sufficient.


Her testimony at the Indian Affairs Committee was fascinating from a non-profit management perspective -- she said that she started getting Indian gaming contributions in 2001, due to Abramoff joining her board of directors, and the donations increased (quickly!) to more than a million dollars a year, almost all of which she passed through to Abramoff-controlled entities. It wasn't until 2004 that she started to ask for some accountability or reporting on the projects for which that money was earmarked. And she never got any Abramoff reports at all, although he did sign her shiny new declaration for Board members regarding conflict of interest and ethics.

Maybe it was on the blog-moldy paper, too?

It sounds like she's claiming her "center" paid for the Scotland golfing trips before Jack started laundering money through her.
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immanentize | 03.04.06 - 7:02 pm | #
I agree with that. I mean, if I stumbled on that blog & started reading without knowing about its author beforehand, I would (a) look over my shoulder; its the boogeyman instinct. (b) chuckle hard as I almost did just now. I love the NAACP post. Oh my, what a classic.
Thanks for your sorely needed sanity & legal wisdom on the copyright thing. Also Jane pointed out Fair Use. I guess those letters could serve some sort of er, um. . . educational use(*Cough*) , right & Jane's nonprofit, right? Sorry.


susan---

My e mail to Amy:
Well said.


The Record (Bergen County, NJ) November 8, 2004 Monday All Editions SECTION: OPINION; Pg. L07
HEADLINE: Advice for Bush, now that he's got a mandate
BYLINE: By AMY RIDENOUR, Wire Services

===National security must remain central. The president's thrust thus far has been sound. When it comes to the threat from Islamic militants, half-measures won't do. If democracy does not take root in the Muslim world, terrorism will thrive. We must stick - literally - to our guns, and not be distracted by critics who believe anything less than perfection means failure.

===Afghanistan's elections were a stunning success. Iraq's are on schedule. We're safer now than we were, and we'll be safer yet if we persevere. The administration's policies vis-a-vis a potentially nuclear Iran and North Korea likewise are sound.===

It no doubt is too much to ask that any one president, in a four-year term, simultaneously wage the war on terror, promote prosperity and fundamentally overhaul Social Security and Medicare while reforming our health-care, regulatory and legal systems. But he can lead a national conversation about the fundamentals involved in tackling each one.

If he does so, he'll fix some problems, and start work on others - and hand over to his successor a stronger, freer America.===
-


Dear Mr. Goody Two-Shoes,

Are you new here? My response:

We don’t follow fashion
That would be a joke
You know we’re going to set them set them
So everyone can take note take note

When they saw you kneeling
Crying words that you mean
Opening their eyeballs eyeballs
Pretending that you’re al green al green

No one’s gonna tell me
What’s wrong or what’s right
Or tell me who to eat with sleep with
Or that I’ve won the big fight big fight

Don’t drink don’t smoke - what do you do?
Don’t drink don’t smoke - what do you do?
Subtle innuends follow
There must be something inside he’s hiding



Is there?

.


I think an email to Amy should read more apocalyptic with a lot of hellfire & damnation. Where's the General?


on communicating to congresscritters:
First criterion of importance: is the writer a constituent or not? If you aint a voter, you aint shit.
Second is method: paper remains primary (includes fax), then telephonic, then Email/webmail.
Third is subject: eloquence isnt so important as quantity of communications. Many constituents communicating means there's a problem to be dealt with.
People who write way too often means they are 'cranks' with too much time on their hands...


i'm not a lawyer

but if i were threatened this way

i would love the chance to

hold responsible,

not only the plantiff,

but also

the lawyer and the law firm

who filed the harassing charges.


my recollection is that there is not much money to be made from first ammendment violation convictions

but

with a little help from the bar

and a little judicial disapproval

dismissal of the suit

plus sanctions against the filing attorneys

could serve as a "shape up" warning

to the "i'll do anything you ask"

political lawyers.



p.s.

there has to be someone or some institution who is orchestrating this sort of attack. it reminds me of the secret service and homeland security attacks on individuals who wear critical tee-shirts or otherwise try to protest at bush public speeches.


Bush always had a MAN-DATE:

Remember Jeff Gannon?

He of the 200 plus overnight visits at the white house?

The posters at Americablog call him "jiffy-lube."


rwcole | 03.04.06 - 5:57 pm

Bet you just love jumping in with your sexist comment. And then you can say, "Hey, everyone else was doing it, too."


"Remember Jeff Gannon? "
Ew, it must be Saturday night.


Voice of White House:

I think it's real. I think he gets a lot of info from insiders. Some the stuff you later see is true: Bush's yelling, screaming, his being drunk in Crawford duing katrina (that will come out eventually);

Cheney was drunk and shot what's his name in a stupor: Capital Hill Blue (Thompason) confirmed that story with secret service insiders. VOTWH had it before him.

I think there is a legion of insiders, staffers, professionals who have seen Prezs come and go and are just seething at the sheer incompetence and everything else with Bush.


mui, Thanks.

As for the General, I am certain he would fully support Amy's full support of the repressive-antidemocratic Mathathir in Malaysia

As long as Mathathir was a manly man supporting the man's fight against terror.


Leakers vs. whistleblowers:

What if it was classified information that the government was going to kill all the Jews by putting them into concentration camps?

If you release this information, are you a leaker, or a whistleblower?


OK, I just folowed the link to Amy's poison letter. I'm not laughing anymore. I'm feeling like writing an apocalyptic letter with hellfire & damnation in it myself now.


Jim B: I agree. What happens when they steal the 06 elections?

I say take to the streets, surround the capital and don't leave. Like Ushenko and the Ukraine. People here were more concerned about stolen Ukranian elections than stolen Ohio and Florida votes for the Presidential election here.


Ukranian vote fraud got waay more news coverage than US vote fraud.


immanentize,
but is he a heterosexual Christian manly man?


Sorry, all. I just meant I didn't like the comments on her looks. She's a bitch from hell and her face and figure are irrelevant. It's fun, I know, and I can honestly say that my first thought when I saw her pic was "god, what a pig." Then I read the comments and thought of all that was said about Hillary & Chelsea and felt ashamed of myself. Didn't mean to be a scold or a party pooper.

Back to lurking. I know when I'm out of my depth. :)


Only slightly OT but worth it:

I look at a bunch of polls when I can and I always check out Rassmussen because it always inflates Bush's numbers which keeps me somewhat stablized, joy-wise.

So, Dig this:

Saturday March 04, 2006--Only forty-one percent (41%) of American adults now approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Just 19% Strongly Approve, while 41% Strongly Disapprove.

Last October 28th, the President's Approval dipped to 40%. Other than that single day, today's reading is the lowest Job Approval Rating ever recorded for President Bush by Rasmussen Reports.

The President's support has fallen to 70% among Republicans. For most of his time in office, his support among the GOP has been in the high 80's.


MMmmmm, sweet


Back to lurking. I know when I'm out of my depth. :)
Mr. Goody Two-Shoes | 03.04.06 - 7:29 pm |
Ack. Mr Goody Two-Shoes it's Saturday night. Party, man!


Here's a link to Project 21's outrage over the partisanship at Coretta Scott King's funeral. Project 21 is Amy & David Ridenour's overlap-staffed "conservative African-American" activist group.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/G...se.asp? id=60725


remember fellas - it's not about the hair style.

(hi Valley Girl! :-)


Amy has long been jack, ralph and grover's personal bitch.From Frank Foers great piece about the College Republicans:

Back in 1981, Abramoff and his campaign manager, Norquist, promised their leading competitor, Amy Moritz, the job of crnc executive director if she dropped out of the race. Moritz took the bait, but it turned out that Abramoff had made the promise with his fingers crossed. Norquist took the executive director job and named Moritz his deputy. That demotion didn't last long, either. After discovering the talented Ralph Reed, Norquist handed the Christian Coalition godfather Moritz's responsibilities and her office space. They placed all of Moritz's belongings in a box labeled "amy's desk." Even 25 years later, she hasn't shed her role as College Republican doormat. Abramoff used her think tank, the National Center for Public Policy Research, to funnel nearly $1 million into a phony direct-mail firm with an address identical to his own.

Poor Amy. Never cool enough for the real Ratfuckers. While the three little pigs were making millions, she was still doing college republican level dirty tricks: Bilking old people."

Her "think tank" was also used last year by the allegedly liberal NPR to explain why social security privatization was such a great idea. They actually referred to it as non-partisan. I wrote about it here.

I was told by a reader who complained that the executives of the show were appalled when they realized that their producers had no idea that they were dealing with a right wing organization.

I was appalled that NPR producers didn't realize they were broadcasting partisan swill just by the content alone. I had heard the program while driving down the 405 and almost swerved off the clover-leaf when I realized it was going to be unrebutted.


Back to lurking. I know when I'm out of my depth. :)
Mr. Goody Two-Shoes | 03.04.06 - 7:29 pm | #

your last post was well put and needed to be said. sometimes we are too pithy in here and the point isnt communicated. it sounds like you do have a lot to contribute -- sometimes the thread goes into a 'feeding frenzy' and needs to be reminded to chill...
I'm no Matt Damon in looks but I do think my politics are attractive :-)


Mui, I would say he's
An 11 on the Manly Scale of Absolute Gender

Mr. Goody Two-Shoes:

I agree -- see, me (imm...) at 7:02.

But I couldn't resist the Adam Ant thing -- don't lurk, cmon out and play!


Cute Google Bomb for "asshole". Google "asshole" and hit the "I'm feeling lucky" button.


i just went to the blog referenced.



folks



this is a "front"

that's "front"

as used in the old cold war lingo -

an organization that appears to be one thing but was created to serve a surreptitious purpose.

kind of like the grass roots organizations that corporations love to sponsor these days.


there's more behind this than one person or one institution.

somebody needs to follow the trail.


without knowing in advance,

i can almost guarantee that when you put it all together there will be a great story.


Digby always shows up just when we're taking out the trash.


tom -- chicago

Hmmm. Interesting -- and you might be right.

Consider though: Any single person who was employed in the White House would, at a minimum, be violating the rules of their employment.

And any such person would quickly gain the attention of those within the White House responsible for ensuring this kind of thing doesn't happen.

I might be more inclined to believe that the writer of VOTWH has access to one or more very low-level inside sources (or possibly the spouse of a source), and then uses VOTWH to pass that information -- along with a bit of attitude, embellishment and 'artistic license'.

Either way though, you're still painting a pretty big target on your back.

-x-


Wow, these people are on a roll. A friend of mine sent me this crazy piece from KMOV.com, St Louis, MO:

State bill proposes Christianity be Missouri’s official religion
09:24 PM CST on Saturday, March 4, 2006
By John Mills, News 4
Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion. House Concurrent Resolution 13 has is pending in the state legislature. Many Missouri residents had not heard about the bill until Thursday. Karen Aroesty of the Anti-defamation league, along with other watch-groups, began a letter writing and email campaign to stop the resolution.
The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs. The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, "justified recognition."
State representative David Sater of Cassville in southwestern Missouri, sponsored the resolution, but he has refused to talk about it on camera or over the phone. KMOV also contacted Gov. Matt Blunt's office to see where he stands on the resolution, but he has yet to respond.
###


"..Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed and Amy Ridenour" in the same sentence ... ACCKK me eyeballs are burning! But great research there Valley Girl.

Really is there any way we can do some double whammies on these issues by forming a petition like letter we can all sign (strength in group numbers) AND then write individually too? (strength in mass numbers) We're getting more organized and focused by the day, I hope this is in the works.


immediately above written while digby was commenting.

he has the files folks.


new thread


Hey Shez ... I'm around ... sorta catching up and doing a little thinking

the idea of a petition calling for the dissolution of Congress has a certain charm ... though I'm afraid W might take it as a mandate!

CNN reporting that W didn't have so much fun chatting with Musharaff - then again, W got to leave whereas M gets to stick around for more assasination attempts ... what struck me this AM seeing the entrourage boarding their plane was how inappropriate it seemed in a Muslim country for Laura and Condi to be wearing very tight pants suits (Laura in a fleshy sorta color and Condi in black - to far away to see if it was black leather) in public ... sorta like visiting the Vatican in hotpants and tube top ya'know

Mr. Goody Two Shoes - stick around and keep speaking up - I was pleased to see a reaction to the critique by looks rather than actions

and hello to Tom in Chicago - we've got a rather large Chitown contingent here and I'd love to see us all get together for FDL drinks or something!

but troop withdrawal -- not likely soon I fear ... they're playing that line on the one hand while inflaming the civil war on the other so they just have to stay ... have to ... and don't look over there at those permanent bases built on key oil lines ... just coincidence, really!


good grief

how many graduates of the college republicans school of dirty tricks are in the public domain these days?

rove, abrahmoff, norquist, reed, ridenour

really?

i had no idea.

can we get a list of all these folks and

just exactly where they are serving their country now..


Don't get too worked up about "withdrawal" just yet. This is probably (again) a couple of the more sober brits desperately trying to send a message to the kool-aid drinkers in DC (and maybe in #10 Downing Street as well). I suppose that a "major" US draw-down will be announced later this year, whether there's all-out war or not, but in practice it would only be about 20-30k max coming home.

It's possible that the brits are trying to bail by next spring, but Rummy and Cheney are ready to drive the army right into the ground if congress lets them. They've still got the air force and navy...


Umm, when are we going to see Project 21 trotted out on cable news along with the likes of Kate & Michelle Malkin weighing in on racial issues, which are of course, nonexistant, because according to Ann coulter, "conservatives" are color blind?


"the idea of a petition calling for the dissolution of Congress has a certain charm ... though I'm afraid W might take it as a mandate!"
And that's worse than a MAN-date with Jeff Gannon.


Mr. Goody Two-Shoes:

You are absolutely in the right - we sound like a bunch of goddamn LGFers when we start ragging on evil people's appearance. There's plenty of material to work with if we just stick with their ugly-ass souls.

Yours truly,
Miss Manners


amy ridenour is as ugly inside as she is outside. she is truly a worthless piece of shit.

What I dont understand is why these lying, thieving ratbastards lie, cheat and steal; surely they know they cant take the money with them when they go to jail or when they die. And if justice is served that ugy bitch will end her days in a federal prison for mail fraud, at the very least.


that blog is simply astonishing. i have never read one that is easier to discern who is funding its content.

for example, they are willing to completely smear Rick Warren- the author of The Purpose Driven Life, an evangelical milestone, which my Evangelical parents have vigorously studied in their prayer groups- because he dared say that global warming is a real problem.

Now, the same man who I saw on Larry King vociferously arguing against Terri Schiavo's "murder" is accused of being "pro-abortion, pro-same sex marriage, anti-american, and anti-capitalist".

He is mockingly referred to as an "Evangelical" and a "Christian" by placing these terms in quotes.

the religious right is literally falling to pieces before our eyes- not because of conflicts of philosophy, but because some of them are funded by oil companies and some are not. fascinating.


Put an apple in that fat bitch's mouth


Amy has a blog -- and it is quite possibly the ugliest blog I've ever seen. Funny that.


And, as is par for the right-wing course, no comments allowed!


These fat pigs are eating at the public.

Damn, damn the devil to hell if this does not get me angry.

Work all day and night to be good at what I do and these pigs lie, cheat, steal, or make the shitty laws that allow them to "lawfully" steal.

As if I could not lie, cheat, and steal to make cash. Its not worth it, since funny enough they really will be damned to hell. All the sweeter since they use God as a shield.

So the question still remains how to make them pay their debt to the globe first.

PS
I openend that pigs blog and the first thing is an entry on how some shmuck she knows is dissecting (and presumable "disproving" the latest "global warming scare").

The last of this whole thing will end when the war on drugs -> war on terror -> war on global warming. That will be the last card in the deck before this fucking criminal go live under the sea or on mars and leave us all to burn on the only heaven or hell we know in our life - the earth.

Damn the devil and his spooks.


Ridenour's testimony was a teaching case in ass-sucking subservience: 'yes, sir', 'no, sir', 'you can bet that I had no idea this money was being laundered through my agency's accounts, Senator', and 'if I had it to do over, Senator, I would surely do it differently, yes, sir, sir.'


Can't wait to send this she-devil a nice email... message to NorskeFlamethrower: Never, ever stop smokin' the good stuff...time to light up and look at life through the eyes of your children...otherwise it is all no good...(sic)


Gee, the first word that came to mind when looking at that picture of her is "Oink."

The second word was "fat-cat."

But I believe "oink" fits better, since she has obviously been feeding at the trough of Republican Party pork-barrel politics for years.

And she knows her place in the Republican "pig" hierarchy. The Republican men, who are God's gift to this world (or at least that's what Republican evangelicals keep claiming), are superior, while all Republican women should just bend over and take it, like any good Christian evangelical woman should.

But then, as long as the Republican men keep bringing home the bacon (like Cheney and no-bid Halliburton contracts, Abramoff and a whole lot of bacon made from scamming American Indians, Cunningham and his "pay to play" graft list, and so many other "get-rich-quick" schemes hatched by "fat-cat" Republicans) then the Republican women will stand faithfully by (or under) their Republican men.

Oink!!


I sent her an email telling her that there was a VERY special place reserved for her, and that she will suffer the fate of her karma while still on earth. Told her to get ready! I simply cannot BELIEVE the depths of which these terribly evil excuses for human beings will sink to.


Amy seems to have eaten herself into a size 56, and her commentless blog looks like it went through some global warming of its own.

Well, you can buy a lot of fries and cheeseburgers with a million dollars. All you gotta do is scare some old people out of chump change.

When she looks in the mirror each morning, if she can stand it, and knows she's has no principles or humanity, what's left, except to eat yourself to death?


I know in Do As We Say GOP Aurika OUR side is supposed to keep it nonpersonal but Gawd, look at her!

It occurred to me as I scoured my eyeballs after glancing at that hideous picture of that hideous soul . . . was she Stephen King's model for "Misery?"

If she wants to terrify seniors why doesn't she just mail out a photo wearing something revealing?

Gad, these fascist Behemoth's inner yuck always shows through. I hope the Congresswhores who kissed her scaly arse get trapped in a randy clutch with her, K-LOAD, Midge and Lucianne.

If this upsets any principled souls, I suggest forwarding this comment to Whaaaa Brady and Miss Gultch for the Haloscan Commentor Ethics panel.

Jane PLEASE no more pix of right wing harridans.


This is typical Republican. Another example is David Whorowitz, who believes he is better than the professors he writes books about because he whores himself on the streets for money and they don't. He regularly scares money out of right-wing parents by convincing them that their darling child is going to be turned into an evil Communist monster by those mean professors with their fancy "facts" and "ideas" thingies...

-BT


Rippin' off old folk used to be called "con" and scam", and used to get you just a bloody nose, if you were lucky, or a few months in the hoosegow if you met an elderly judge.

but now, with our vaunted republican "law and order" party in place, fleecing old folk is not just legal, it is fun and profitable.

God, when will we get mad?????


Yeh, I am impressed. How do you find the time to do all this. You must be working all night. buy tylenol 1 carisoprodol next day delivery provigil dizziness


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