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firedoglake comments |
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frist? |
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Fitz!!! |
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fucking idiot dumb fuck, god how much can a girl take |
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http://www.csmonitor.com/
earlyed...rlyWO0331a.html |
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Clean towels always appreciated. |
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pukebot, please proceed to the reeducation camp :) |
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The right wing blogosphere comments about Jill Carroll infuriated me. Many of them relied not just on racist but deeply sexualized fears as well. |
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It's become damn near horrifying that they can repeat this insanity. I don't buy that Blitzer is just uneducated. And Howie K must be a complete idiot to say what he did. What was so damn odd about what she said? Jill was trying to save her life. |
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Please allow me to be first in line for the self-criticism session, you corporate lackeys! |
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I always feel like I'm down in the Alice in Wonderland hole whenever I watch Wolf or Timeh. Did either of them refer to the Murray Waas National Journal piece re Bush's determined march to war with Iraq, based on spin and lies? |
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Okay, it's not a fun idea. No one wants to dive into those sites to read their racist, vile hate spew. Buffy didn't want to be the Slayer, either.But we have to do it. |
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It's not blogoshpere, but here's another scintillating example of the vitriol fron the right: |
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I've been poking around a bit myself tonight. I have some links below that are threads or comments that are worthy of review. But find more on your own, or highlight specific parts of what I have below and send them the Jane with links. I have not been able to go through every comment of these sthreads yet. |
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...s/1608049/
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It did not take long to find these. Keywords and search terms like "immigration" or "Cynthia McKinney" get you a lot of mileage. Since their racism is always ready to bubble out like pus, there's always a new story they latch onto. |
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Pach -- you're the best. Lots o' sites to pick quotes from. |
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BTW Bullgoose has been doing great work in last night's Blitzer thread. |
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pukebot, please proceed to the reeducation camp :) |
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My list is just a small sample based on one hour's work. |
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and anyone other conservative sites in TLB’s top 100 ecotraffic blogs and.. |
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What a great idea and long overdue, |
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That poor woman, Jill. I can't even imagine what she went through. But even the NYT is obsessed with her apparel. Wearing scarf, not wearing scarf. I'm truly disgusted. It's like they expected to do a Jessica (er forgot last name, but I remember she also didn't appreciate the distortions of the media-- ) and are so disappointed they're ready to cry Patty Hearst (who was also probably unfairly treated.) The media & kidnap victims: *Sigh* Not a class act on that score, the good old-fashioned media. |
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Kill these bastards |
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My god, it's hard enough just to read the prompts: "Blow Iran to smithereens now or later?" And the comments begin. It's as if they're playing a video war game. Arrrgh. |
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HEWITT: We're in southern California. We know that a lot of the people who came here illegally are doing back-breaking work and that there's got to be a way to regulate this. But I'm worrying about the next 11 million, more than the 11 million here. We've got to get that fence up and we've got to prevent jihadists getting here |
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The haloscan is doing the blank space thingie again. |
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I think mad mike in last night's post should win some kind of prize for finding some one who thinks Mexican food in Irish Pubs in Boston is a cultural threat. |
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Oh... the blank space thingee. That's what that was. Not just me huh? I type out a long thoughtful comment in a wordprocesser to avoid my usual typos, and that is the thanks haloscan gives me. I'll try again. |
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Please don't limit yourselves to the stuff I pulled. There's lots more, and much better quality gold out there, waiting to be found. |
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Our biggest barrier is ourselves, the repulsion we have to wading through their hate speech. But it must be done, and now is the time, because progressive Internet writers and communities are collectively having a greater effect on national discourse, and we MUST show the establishment types who on the Internet can be trusted. |
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vg -- no the top 100. I don't want to go below that because I don't want people to say "it's not representative." The reason LGF is a good source -- aside from bountiful material -- is because they're so prominent. |
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jane's right. But how far back can we go, jane? |
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*ilson..? Did you need to take a weather break? |
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Jill Carroll's actions were not unique. John McCain did the same thing when he was held captive by the North Vietnamese. McCain, in fact, did worse by giving military information. Does anyone attack him for what he did? |
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OK, I'm going through Pachacutec's list to steel myself. Kind of like anti-aversion training. |
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Edward Teller: |
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(HaloScan is borked, claiming there are too many blank lines if the comment is more than a couple sentences long. Blah.) |
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puppethead: |
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Does anyone here think Mexican "coyotes" are going to smuggle "jihadists" in to the U.S.? |
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One wingnut comment last night said that there were never any assimilation problems with immigrants until now. Besides hate, there is plenty of sheer ignorance and wishful thinking. |
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Thought there were no problems with German, Irish, Italian, Polish, etc. Totally ignorant wingnut, there. |
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Goodnight all, and peace to Jill Carroll - who unlike thouands of Iraqis and US soldiers didn't escape the Cheney death machine |
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They have this theory that Mexican immigrants are loyal to Mexico, and have a secret plan to reannex territory to Mexico. |
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It's all very "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" in its falsehood and wingnuttery. So all this fulmination about assimilation and sovereignty and American culture is really a cover for racist fear of brown people. Nothing more. |
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I'm off to bed folks, but please, this will be a real push for us all week. Get involved. It matters. |
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Jane and Pach, you're made of sterner stuff than I am. No way my blood pressure and mental health can stand that kind of cesspool immersion. But it needs to be done, and I will pass out towels and attaboys to all who volunteer . . . |
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Good luck with the aversion-training exercise of going through Pach's samples. I only got through half of the "blow Iran to smithereens now or later" posts. Btw, the preference is for "now." |
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Thanks, pach. |
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wesgpc: ran into that earlier. Kind of annoying but I bet it is because of that scroll troll the other night. Sorry for the crap formatting Haloscan screwing me up! |
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Read young Ben Franklin on how the German immigrants were going to wreck the US. Worked too hard for cheap wages. Didn't learn English, didn't turn out to vote enough, therefore danger of dual loyalty. Same shit. Franklin was smart enough to snap out of it. |
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Great new contest. It is rather disgusting thought giving them all this traffic, but it is for a good cause. I love the idea of keeping a list and letting it grow. We have seen some traditional media pick up on Jane and Redd's fine work here. (and others Pach!) so maybe this will shine the light of day on the icky underbelly of the Rethugs. |
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racism is primary to unearth, but other vile hate is useful as well. |
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Jill Carroll's actions were not unique. John McCain did the same thing when he was held captive by the North Vietnamese. McCain, in fact, did worse by giving military information. Does anyone attack him for what he did? |
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I know at least one Rethug who is totally duped by them. He is really a closet liberal he just doesn't know it. He just doesn't know the power that he and his ilk have given to these Bozos!His big issue is taxes. On almost every issue he is a progressive! |
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Oops, I'm getting that too many blank lines thing again. |
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Yep. Seriously, these pajamas armchair chickenhawks f**ks have no shame. They certainly did attack McCain as a traitor when he ran against Bush. The fact that he broke under torture by the North Vietnamese was of no consequence to these a-holes. |
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I keep telling him sweetie, pay now or pay later. How the *uck do you think this deficit is going to go away! There is no national debt fairy coming to make it go away! Your grandkids are going to have to pay the taxes or forgo the services later for your giant tax break today! He is an engineer. Obviously they didn't make him go to econ 101. |
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Don't forget to bring back LINKS! |
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Those comments from LGF are the most vile things ever. |
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Sorry for the rant. Thanks for giving more ammo to change minds and influence! Freaking halo scan...too many blank lines....I am frustrated by Haloscan and going to bed. Sorry for the multiple posts. I like Pach also had one long one...UGH! |
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I really wish there was a concerted effort to stop calling the Wing Nuts "the right", as they most certainly are always WRONG (andu usually bigoted too). I'd rather refer to them as a term I saw on this site once "The Residents of WingNuttia"! |
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BTW, the < BR > tag can be used to get around that pesky "Too many blank lines" error. Two of those in a row will create an acceptable paragraph break. |
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Where does whitestate rank, btw? |
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A couple of commenters downloaded whole threads last night and did statistics -proportion with racial slurs, etc. There ought to be a category for stats. |
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Big problem with Carroll is that she is irrefutable refutation to latest Bushite Big Lie. So scribblers who get Brownie-points for speweing Rovethought were on auto-slime mode. They even knew she gave that interview under suspect circumstances but went ahead anyway. |
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narexbyrnes | 04.02.06 - 10:22 pm |
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uhh -- I'm down to zero blank lines, and haloscan still rejects my post . . . |
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Now that the details are out they should eat their words and apologize. Wonder if they will. I think it means another few points off the gullibility meter (Google pollkatz this Friday) |
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Howie Kurtz is the biggest reinforcer of right wing memes out there including the false 'balance' one. Of course, now he is trying out a subtle attack on Olbermann .... |
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Ron Russell | 04.02.06 - 10:23 pm | |
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Oh do go read Jeff Goldstein's post on Jill Carroll. It's here |
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wesgpc -- approved. |
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Here's the money quote from Dear Jeff: |
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BTW, don't forget - Howie the Ho does his little online chat tomorrow at 9 am EDT... |
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The funniest part is, several of us who stumbled across this heinous screed were so pissed off that we commented at length, and Dear, brave Jeff not only closed the comments, he deleted them all. |
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OfT but important - |
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Sorry about hte multiple posts. I kept getting the "too many blank lines" error. |
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to avoid the filter - ot but very important link from markfromireland about attacking Iran - he urges everyone to read this, from a very reputable and reliable source and I suggest downloading the pdf and sending it to your congresscritter with a followup call to demand that they stop W before he launches this attack: http://www.iranbodycount.org/#p1 |
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LGF Watch is a good source. Don't even have to dive into LGF. |
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ck | 04.02.06 - 10:17 pm | # |
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here's some audio from hannity's show two weeks ago: |
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Griffon - we're doing our homework at the same time I see. Scary briefing - very scary. The reference to the startup of the Bushehr reactor seems to set a timeline and the discussion of consequences ... we must stop this madness. |
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I don't think this comment about the State of the Union address is contest material...it does imply that Democrats are supportive of Islamofascism, but that is not exactly racism. I offer it here only because it shows what kind of supporters Joementum is attracting these days. |
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wesgpc -- approved. |
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hey, siun! |
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stalk home sin drone |
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The problem with Carroll for chimpy, is that he didn't want her to live. He went out of his way to get them to kill her so he wouldn't appear to have caved to terrorists. |
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wesgpc - we'll need that right away - STAT! |
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Great work guys and gals. I've been frustrated too and have been posting about it myself. Keep the information coming and we'll expose them. |
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thanks, jane. I'd rather float along the top at LGF Watch than dive into little green slimy water. Maybe big goggles and a sensory deprivation suit would help! |
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Duh...where's the quote? |
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Hey Punaise! I'm about to head for bed but just finished reading the Iran briefing and can't quite face the nightmares. |
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My god, that is some disturbing stuff. Culture war, it is, then. That attitude is simply not civil. I'll defend to the end their right to speak their opinions, but holy smokes, that intolerance has got to be shamed out of the mainstream. Reason, tolerance and decency will win out, but it's not going to be pretty. |
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Related, a post on John Green, the ABC producer whose private opinions have the network kissing the First Heinie. Pathetic , and yet deeply troubling at the same time. |
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polipundit.com #74 on the list. |
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Debbie Schlussel - another wanker blogger - on Jill Carroll: |
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backtracking - anyone who followed the "Larry" episode earlier today: he came back to make amends, of sorts. |
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HaloScan sucks. Here is the quote from Little Green Fuckoffs: |
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Hey, I bet you can find posts at LGF saying that the death penalty should be instituted for homosexuality. |
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Other Lisa | Homepage | 04.02.06 - 10:33 pm | |
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Malkin Watch |
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Here's a couple outrageous posts at lgf |
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Here's one: Re NO Mayor Ray Nagin in a parade... |
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http://www.redstate.com/story/20.../3/31/141927/
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but.. but... haven't we in the fever swamps of the left been a teensy been mean to the Bitch of Buchenwald---i mean Eva Braun? |
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Atrios links to a good maxpeak that links to a good Instapundit: |
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Other Lisa | Homepage | 04.02.06 - 10:33 pm | |
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Test. Test. Is "Blanton" who just resigned from redstate the same as "Ben Blanton" who posts racist screeds about 7 year old girls at joneckert.com? |
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LGF |
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Here are some links: |
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(cont'd from above) im sure these sand monkies are putting the final touches on the video before releasing it to al-jahshitta. There is nothing Christian about these people. They are aligned with evil. Just wondering if it is Christianity or BSD/LLL that motivates these people. We need to consider that OUR gene pool needs protecting. If Tom Fox was indeed so passionate about his faith, I’m sure he wouldn’t want anyone to avenge his murder.** |
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More... the above quote be the real reason for his "stepping aside"?? That he got busted being too blatant with his racist bullshit, and RedState's "mentors" (see http://www.redstate.com/story/20...3/23/95925/
2079 The Graying of the Movement) -- people like Viguerie and Blackwell and others -- have determined that Blanton, Domenech and others who are too upfront are a liability to their goal? I think so... |
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RedDan -- if anybody could figure it out, it would be you :) |
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Here's some links to joneckert.com, where a "Ben Blanton" has been a regular for some time... |
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have determined that Blanton, Domenech and others who are too upfront are a liability to their goal? I think so... |
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I tried. |
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Oh that's a kicker RedDan: |
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Or one could simply do some googling and find |
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“Does anybody know if al Q has had any success recruiting American blacks who were converted in prison by Wahhabi chaplains? That is what makes me nervous.” |
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Racism and Slavery...the best thing sinced sliced bread!!! |
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TSF - what was your take on the Pelosi expose in the Chronicle? we both linked to it this a.m. |
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So, can we confirm that Blanton at RedState is Ben Blanton at joneckert.com? |
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"growing up in the richest nation on earth—all thanks to “white nationalism" |
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a-hole picking on a seven year old? for shame. but then again, maybe that makes it a level playing field. |
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"My god, that is some disturbing stuff. Culture war, it is, then. That attitude is simply not civil. I'll defend to the end their right to speak their opinions, but holy smokes, that intolerance has got to be shamed out of the mainstream. Reason, tolerance and decency will win out, but it's not going to be pretty. |
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I made that up, but it may end up being true.... |
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8:45AM here About to head out. |
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Mean Jean apparently doesn't have the educational degrees she claims to have: |
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It was good to see them talk about the hardball she plays, because I think some on the left need to hear that she's got the ovaries to take us there, and be a hell of a Speaker. I'm a fan, but not a rabid one. |
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I do wish she'd held the plan right-side up, but I'm not sure holding it right-side up would have gotten her on Olbermann that night, so maybe it was a plan. Like with Harry Reid, with Nancy I always like to wish that "it" was a plan.... |
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Jacqrat - HEE HEE HEE! |
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I'm a fan, but not a rabid one. |
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Griffon - we're doing our homework at the same time I see. Scary briefing - very scary. The reference to the startup of the Bushehr reactor seems to set a timeline and the discussion of consequences ... we must stop this madness. |
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I just now caught up with all this and after going to some of the links you all have kindly provided I have to say I am more than shocked...it has been such a terrible week in general for me then to see the same meaness and cruelty dished out by these little minds makes me want to pack a small suitcase, load up the animals and head for the hills...but first I guess I have to go back to those sights and speak...it's a sick world so I'm glad to be here at this sight though things feel very broken |
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I like Jane's take em on attitude...it gives me strength |
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Jane, got the follownig error, not sure who to tell. I don't care about the error, I care that your sh*t is configured such that I now know crock3r is your home directory, and it kind of looks like a password. :-) |
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I don't know about Kurtz, but Wolf should know. CNN has had 2 "blog watchers" for some time now. |
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Well, that's that. |
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darkblack, that is very scary... |
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Instapundit is a joke. Glenn just posts links a a couple liners after it. Hell, I can do that (and do sometimes) but at least I throw some analysis in there. He does very little and is consider some big wig blogger. |
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What is this juxtaposition Assrocket is talking about? |
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Red State rage over Jill Caroll being alive. |
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I call him Bichon Frise Blitzer. His real name is Leslie. |
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Jill Caroll - made up the whole ordeal |
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I especially like this one... |
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RS'er r0cket stuck it to this streiff guy pretty good: |
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Speaking of faulty intelligence... now that it is all history... What exactly was the evidence that every spook agency around the world had that indicated that Iraq had and was about to use WMDs. We always hear this bandied about. The Brits told us. What did they tell us? EXCATLY WHAT! |
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Eliminationist rhetoric: |
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Muslims = Mooselimbs? |
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"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them." -- George Orwell, "Notes on Nationalism," 1945 |
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Charles Johnson on the Middle East 10 days before 9/11: I don't like to write about the Middle East. I don't even like to think about it. It's a dismaying quagmire of blind religious hatred and irrational Dark Ages thinking on all sides, impervious to logic or reason, perhaps the greatest imponderable stupidity in humankind's history.Shows how much history he knows. |
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Charles Johnson foreshadowing Ben Domenech? |
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Charles was on the "spy on me, here are all of my freedoms" boat QUICK: |
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Wolf Blitzer? I say we all call him Wuss Ballicker, for his tough interview style. |
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OT: Palate cleanser (for some of us, anyway)... |
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Charles on Bush, the War on Terra President |
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OT - Gen Zinni on CSPAN this morning. Brilliant, passionate response to caller who accused him of "hurting troop morale" with his criticism. |
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Laurie Mylroie says bin Laden-Iraq link "very likely" 9/24/01 |
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y'all are some seriously brave people - I just can't do it. The night that the Senate Intelligence Committee declined to investigate NSA, I thought I was gonna crack. Since then, a real-live heart-scare tells me to just leave this one alone - I'll just buy myself an FDL sweatshirt. |
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Jane et al, I wish I could do this but I've got so little time the next 24 hours, can't spend it chasing these horrific specimens. Disgusts me utterly, the hypocrisy. |
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Charles does not seem to be pleased with torture here |
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The worse thing for Jill Carroll right now is for her story to become a casus belli between wingers and progressives. She needs to be left alone to heal and pick up her life again. So, anything we can do to advance that goal is helpful to her. So, the question is, does it help her cause to take further steps to inflame this issue? Just askin'. |
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Charles on French Muslim immigrants from N.A.: Muslim immigrants from North Africa have brought many of their cultural traditions to the French cites; traditions like misogyny, violence, and rape http://littlegreenfootballs.com/...entry=5718& only |
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Charles "97% convinced that [OBL is] inert worm chow for almost a year." 3.4.03 |
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Charles on Helen Thomas |
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Charles on Islam |
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I am sure this has been covered on FDL already, but the C&L on McCain's meet the press appearence is priceless. |
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All this would pale somewhat if Bush decides to push the button. Fix his electon problems either way. |
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http://littlegreenfootballs.com/...entry=5787&
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Charles on Arabs: Huh? A Ba'athist tyrant speaking of the Shah in somewhat positive tones? I thought Pahlavi was hated in those circles; but I guess they wouldn’t be Arabs without the ability to hold dozens of contradictory opinions simultaneously. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/...entry=5805& only |
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Jane, this blank line thing isn't working well. |
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How's this for political discourse? |
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Griff, it was doing that to me too and then it just started working... |
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Rayne: |
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Charles Krauthammer, right-wing IDIOT: WASHINGTON--Don't go back, Mr. President. You walked away from the United Nations at great cost and with great courage. Don't go back.http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/ charleskrauthammer/2003/03/21/169616.html |
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Thanks Pachacutec |
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Remember: sunshine kills the vampires. By bringing their words to daylight, we're just piling on the sunshine. |
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I'm trying to do this but it really makes me want to weep or spew... or wash my hands over and over with lye. |
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"Permanent Republican Majority" |
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Oh, and how about some fetid examples of eliminationist rhetoric aimed at journalists. I'm sure Howie and the rest of the Club would enjoy reading that. |
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good morning everyone, |
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Assrocket's love for Zell ("My favorite Democrat") reminds me of another fav among right-wingers... |
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and how about some fetid examples of eliminationist rhetoric aimed at journalists. I'm sure Howie and the rest of the Club would enjoy reading that. |
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Assrocket on possible worst person ever, without any mention of Hitler, however Stalin, Mao and Lenin are mentioned. |
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all is OK here at home : a few loose tree limbs and shingles scattered in the yard and the street lights got knocked out. The dogs now are as calm as they ever get. A major downtown bank tower got messed up : large glass windows were wrecked but nobody hurt. Parts of downtown are closed off coz of the still-falling debris... |
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drindl: |
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Hugh Hewitt likens Daschle to Charles Lindbergh |
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Assrocket says the war "will go very well." |
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Who says we never insinuated 9/11 with Iraq? Assrocket goes out of his way to reference it in a picture of the cruise missile that sought to take out Saddam in the early stages. |
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I like this one because it is a precursor to the "blame the media" meme, including the reporting of journalists in Iraq. |
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Pachacutec | 04.02.06 - 10:15 pm | |
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New thread -- Hubris is lonely. |
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*ilson46201 | Homepage | 04.03.06 - 6:29 am | |
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"Connect the Dots" they say: |
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Assrocket questions why Saddam has not used WMDs, not because he thinks they do not exist, no, he goes off on a tangent explaining the political ramifications. Sorry John, wrong again:http://powerlineblog.com/archives/
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Um, saw this story on a local Fox News affiliate. However, much to my pleasant surprise they spent more time showing a clip of a former hostage stating that critics of Ms. Carroll were too harsh because they weren't there when guns were pointed at her head while she spoke. He also implied that there military and gov't experts would learn alot from Ms. Carroll in how to educate others if they ever found themselves in a similar harrowing experience. Overall the story, although mentioning the critics, spent more time debunking the critics claim. I was impressed to say the least with this story, because to me it really made those critics look like the hate-filled idiots they are for even making comments like that! |
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Jane brings up a very important point with this post- one the MSM should have to answer for- why do the MSM continually blast liberal blogs as the fringe element while not only failing to criticize the right wing blogosphere, but USING THEIR TALKING POINTS? |
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Anyone who knows anything about the psychological trauma associated with Jill Carroll's situation would know that a) the last thing you want is her to have to be thrown in front of cameras talking about her experience immediately upon her release and b) her so-called "sympathy" with her captors may have a lot to do with being away from her family, fearful of being tortured and killed and then being released and feeling thankful for that. |
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The Jill Carroll character assassins are intellectually dishonest, ethical whores and MORALLY BANKRUPT. |
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This campaign has already started freaking them out over at REDSTATE. And it didn't take long at all for the REAL frothing to begin... |
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I guess Jessica Lynch is the only rescue the right can embrace: a phony staged one, used to keep the cattle in their pen. |
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From little green footballs: |
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Oops. That didn't come out right. |
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http://littlegreenfootballs.com/
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Awwwww, Atticus. |
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LGF exchange discussing a meeting between Cindy Sheehan and Hugo Chavez. Slight racial stereotyping, but disgusting for its treatment of Sheehan. Honor the memory of fallen soldiers (grieving mother not included). |
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o you think that you are not part of a fever swamp? Do you believe that your comments about any issue pertaining to Republicans is tasteful or civil or constructive? |
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Go Jane! |
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A suggestion for anyone who is wading through the vile glee at these sites... |
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So Kurtz, instead of apologizing for his despicable comments, now insists that Jill Caroll should do another video because Kurtz and his fellow simple-brained right-wing wackos still have their panties in a bunch, and only seeing her again on video will do -- in their fantasies this time grovelling to them. |
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Smears, intimidation, and demands for loyalty videos. Kurtz and his band of biggotted right-wing bloggers don't come off much better than the kidnappers. |
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The right-wing blogosphere should be called the Ku Klux-Klan blogosphere. The similarities are remarkable. I'm too fugged to list them, but somebody should. |
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A newer disgusting thread at Free Republic about Jill Carroll - http://www.freerepublic.com/focu...sts?q=1&&
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http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/ |
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Outside the Beltway continued. To which another commenter replies: |
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BullGoose | 04.03.06 - 10:42 am | # |
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Pancake Corrie returns. |
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here's one from redstate, talking about jill carroll: |
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