Gravatar It seems the only thing good to come out of the war were the million-dollar contracts for multinational corporations like Halliburton et. al. It's war-profiteering all the way, and if that term "offends" you, then I suggest you dissect it. "War profiteering."

Ryan, face it. Though those moonbats are certainly annoying, the major gist of their arguments (minus the ridiculous anti-Israel dreck) are correct. Iraq is a hellhole now. You know it. And you'd just be acting a blind Sean Hannity-lite cheerleading for this pathetic administration if you don't come out and admit it.


Gravatar You should of known you were going into a hornets nest anyway...academia is usually liberal.


Gravatar You better form an anti-military draft rally because come next year this issue is coming back on the table.

College deferements will be only to the end of the semester for below seniors.

Defending our freedoms is one thing but not in countries that don't have a military draft.

You young boys aren't ompleting Select Service Application for nothing. If there were truly no military draft there would be a need to complete the application would there? The draft boards are coming out of mothballs.

Joe Biden Sr. is in support of the military draft because he is not for cut and run. So it will be do or die !


Gravatar Right. The draft is coming back. Wasn't it reinstated in January 2005?

Men have been registering for the draft since as long as we can remember. Nothing is going to change.


Gravatar 2002:
"The draft boards are coming out of mothballs."

2003:
"The draft boards are coming out of mothballs."

2004
"The draft boards are coming out of mothballs."

2005:
"The draft boards are coming out of mothballs."

2006:
"The draft boards are coming out of mothballs."

same crap every year.


Gravatar ...and at least whoever said it in the past knows how to frickin' spell and use sentence structure. I sure wish Kilroy would get his comments and posts edited before he puts 'em up. I'm tired of hauling my GI Joe decoder ring out of mothballs just to decipher what he's saying!


Gravatar Mike M., excuse me for not responding sooner, but I do other things besides blog, and I wanted to take the time to dig up some occasions when I have criticized how the war was handled.

February:
http://www.jokerstotheright.com/...ar-in- iraq.html
"There are four major mistakes that Bremer and the Administration made in post-invasion Iraq, creating the turmoil and the aggressive insurgency."

http://www.jokerstotheright.com/...-civil- war.html
"This goes back to the Sunni/Shia rift that has been around for centuries, though the fact that al-Sadr is still around to do something about it is worrysome. This is one of the problems that the CPA should have dealt with a long time ago. This very well maybe a critical point for the future of Iraq, and a prevention of a disintigration into civil war would be a good sign. A civil war in Iraq is something the region cannot afford right now, nor can the United States."

April:
http://www.jokerstotheright.com/...rge-w- bush.html
"In reality, the invasion was a rousing success, but the occupation has been the failure."


Gravatar "Culture warriors with an ersatz ne'er-do-well attitude."

Speak English ! Wet Back !


Gravatar And all this time all I thought you did was blog Ryan...


Gravatar "same crap every year."
steamboat willy

Steamboat, it appears some Marine Units are going to be sent into Iraq for another tour of duty. The shit is heading for an all out civil war!
The the entire Middle-East will really become unstable.

So Hube, what is your spin on the draft issue? What would be the scenario that would reactivate the military draft?


Gravatar Kilroy: The only scenario in which the draft would be reimplemented is if the US was attacked by, say, North Korea (some ICBM with a small nuke on it or something) and war broke out in Korea. It would not be implemented for another war of the Iraq variety. Whatever party that attempted it other than in a scenario like I said above would be committing political suicide. It's that simple.


Gravatar "Culture warriors with an ersatz ne'er-do-well attitude."

That is English. I hope you were kidding. Adn watch the epithets, eh? My wife is Latina.


Gravatar "It would not be implemented for another war of the Iraq variety."

I have concerns with the war in Iraq that if it does escalate into a religious civil war, fighters from surrounding countries may join the ranks. Would the U.S have enough troops to disperse to the country side and maintain sufficient troop level within the cities?

The Mideast was very shaky a few weeks back with Israel going into Lebanon, Iran rattling it sabers, North Korea carrying on for attention and the ongoing conflict in Iraq. Also we have U.S. Troops assigned to NATO for various missions. I have no idea what the threshold is for our government to say thing are very unstable do we prepare more troops for readiness. I would assume it would take 4 to 6 months for each new recruit training cycle.

”Kilroy: The only scenario in which the draft would be reimplemented is if the US was attacked by, say, North Korea (some ICBM with a small nuke on it or something) and war broke out in Korea”


We can’t wait until all hell breaks loose to training forces needed to strike back. I feel is tensions get to a critical level the U. S. will need to prepare a readiness force. I don’t foresee Bush giving the green light to activate the draft. I guess it’s all down do we trust our government? I am told old for the draft. My son is diabetic but maybe he could operate the Predator (smile). I just don’t trust this government when it comes to war situation where it’s more of a police action. North Korea, you heard the news today, they are sorry for the nuke test! So are we back to “how about a game of chess Michael?”

“ I said above would be committing political suicide. It's that simple.”

In deed and that is probably the only reason the draft wasn’t activated


Gravatar "That is English. I hope you were kidding. Adn watch the epithets, eh? My wife is Latina"

I was a little bent, but our E-mail exchanges were productive. "Wife" I never go that low even on politicans and besides Iam Italian not much different that Latino.

I do suggest you proof read a little better! "Adn" not in Webster's (now that's a joke


Gravatar The Dems are the ones that try to scare us with the draft all the time... and yet, they're the only ones that propose bills to reinstate it or require mandatory service by all young men AND women.


Gravatar "The Dems are the ones that try to scare us with the draft all the time..."

Are you suggesting if there were a democrat in the White House there may be a better chance of the draft becoming a reality?

Some of the old crows in Washington feel all kids need discipline and mandatory national service would do the trick. I say why should all kids especially kids like many of you would be burden with such service that was meant for the undisciplined (not talking about drink while in college)? We cannot do anything that would disrupt young people from attending college or living productive lives life.

Currently all branches of the military requires at least a high school education to enlist. If the draft was activated then those less desirable would be required to serve. I just don’t like the fact that our young people’s lives should be at the disposal of our government to fight and die for possible political causes. When was the last time the United States march into a country and unseated a president or dictator by military force in which that country did not attack the United States or an allied? The existence of the United States is a grain of sand in the hourglass of time compared to the existence of establishments in the Middle East. We deem our civilized way of life as so righteous and countries that cultures resist modern development as if they have no clue what is good for them. We are the most developed country in the world but yet, with all our wisdom we destroy our own environment that supports our existence? More people die in the United States as a result gun violence then soldiers in the so called battle field of war. I can see why other countries resist the will of the United States.

The rule of thumb for war should be, when one country’s military or direct governmental sponsor terrorist groups attacked another country. Then the rest of the world can gang up on the invading country. All other internal conflict aka civil wars, we must keep our hands off. Does any college scholars believe that the United States would never see another internal civil war?

The current draft registration isn’t need because if the United States was truly attacked there would more young peopled lined up to serve then needed.We all know there are not no WMD’s in Iraq, What about all those young boys who stepped up and enlisted to go fight? Can you imagine being on the battle field finding out the truth? The truth is now being told because many of them want out and can’t wait to get out. Before the military actives the draft you will see many who served active duty be called up via the so called backdoor draft. Once you are discharged form active duty you are listed as inactive reserve for at least 3 years ( not sure if it’s 3 or 4). Reactivating the inactive reserves will to the call to action to block the draft.


Gravatar No. What I'm saying is that there are two bills in Congress; one that would reinstate the draft and one that would require mandatory military service for everyone between the ages of 18 and 42 and they're both sponsored by Democrats.

And they're already calling back inactive reserves, so I'm not really sure what your point was at the end there.


Gravatar And they're already calling back inactive reserves, so I'm not really sure what your point was at the end there.

My understand is, if If they can’t keep their recruitment levels up to goal then they might be force to call up the inactive reserves aka backdoor draft. If this we to happen then I feel it may bring us on step closer to reactivatiing the draft.

"Some members of Congress are expressing concern that the military is over-stretched by the war. On Monday, Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said the situation in Iraq is "disintegrating" into a civil war. "My instinct is once the (November) election is over there will be a lot more hard thinking about what to do about Iraq and a lot more candid observations about it."
http://www.michaelmoore.com/word...dex.php? id=7951

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/...?bill=h109- 2723

The debate can go on ! I do not trust our government and feel we don't even need anyone to register for the draft. Just in case is bull!


Gravatar Now I don't trust the government all that much, but I certainly trust it more than I do Michael Moore and Arlen Spector.


Gravatar "Now I don't trust the government all that much, but I certainly trust it more than I do Michael Moore and Arlen Spector."

Fair enough Ryan!




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