hooray for answered prayer haha


DAMN YOU ESPN-U!


AWESOME. kick clarkson's ass.


Great job, now we need Notre Dame to beat MSU and whoever to beat North Dakota


apocalypse has been once again narrowly avoided.


How long before people start making "Justin the burner Turner" fansites???


another great recruiting pickup


Gravatar It's not often I say Go Irish, but Go Irish!


Gravatar @Wayne:

You can catch the game here:
http://www.myp2pforum.eu/ncaa/17...t-vp4- game.html

You'll need to download Sopcast and probably VLC as well.


Gravatar Wait...this post can't be right...I thought Sparty had a freakin' "lockdown" on all of the instate kids, and that RR could never recruit head to head with His Royal Vestness!?!?


Gravatar Just listened to a national radio interview with Jamar Adams, he said the atmosphere at Michigan is all about winning and it's been very positive. He said never has he seen so many players coming back in the off season (Braylon, Woodson etc.)Very positive comments about the staff, nothing even remotely resembling Boren's descriptions.


Gravatar Thank you for the link, Ninja!


Gravatar RR's got big blue back on top ya hear

JDig


Gravatar Princeton had nothing for (the other) ND, but the Academy boys are giving (the other) Miami all they want...2-1 with less than half a period to play.

Not sure what to think about that.


Gravatar We don't want lightening quick running backs- we want big slow ones like Notre Dame, Penn state and Sparty-oh wait- my bad


Gravatar "The quarterbacks were "live" during the scrimmage, meaning they could take hits.

"That teaches them to get rid of the ball quicker," Rodriguez said.


AWESOME.


Gravatar Can somebody help me move the couch?


Gravatar The quarterbacks were "live" during the scrimmage, meaning they could take hits.


That's not how they do things at Notre Lame.


Gravatar Miami and Air Force in OT


Gravatar The following is an exchange from AOL Fanhouse comments.

1. BCS Bowl victories in the last 5 years:

Michigan: 0
Kansas: 1


And the reply:

2. Number of coaches more obese than Charlie Weis:

Michigan: 0
Kansas: 1


Fuckin classic.


Gravatar What was the show golfer? might be a good listen if it's available online somewhere


Gravatar Heard a rumor Joe Rogan and Wesley Snipes are negotiating for UFC bout. Can anyone verify?


Gravatar Ninja,

I love that line from RR about the QB's learning to get rid of it quicker. How many times a game did you see Henne double clutch, try to step up and get dropped for a sack? I can't tell you the actual number unless I take my socks off.


Gravatar \Joe Rogan and Wesley Snipes//

Barwis will take them both.

At the same time.


Gravatar I think it's an old rumor finding new life. But regardless, an entourage of wolves and a random grizzly would make for an entertaining entrance to the octogon.


Gravatar What was the score of the hockey game?


Gravatar Anyone have the link to the Jamar Adams interview? I'd love to hear it.


Gravatar Wow back to back commits! The only way I could be more excited if his name was Tetris Jones.


Gravatar 2-2 in ot. Miami is putting on a relentless amount of pressure.


Gravatar I mean the Michigan game last night.


Gravatar 5-1


Gravatar Brandon Minor is taking reps at QB as well as RB.

And supposedly has an ARM!


Gravatar that would be interesting to see


Gravatar Anyone "hear" how todays practice went? Love to hear some solid gossip!


Gravatar Miami just beat AFA in OT FWIW.


Gravatar Michigan is up next. GO BLUE!!!!


Gravatar An Air Force upset would have been fun, but I'm happier to see Miami still around to possibly take down some tough teams, and we've proven a couple times this year that we can handle Miami. Michigan's game is about to start, so GO BLUE!


Gravatar south875,

Any word on LSU tickets. My dad and I want to go to the UGA vs. LSU game. Think we could scalp some at that game? And how much do you think they'd cost?


Gravatar UM on the power play.


Gravatar Shooting gallery for M on the PP but no goals. 15:00 left


Gravatar Huge save by Sauer. That scared the shit out of me.


Gravatar So WTF is up in the West? Not that I mind seeing UNH gone, but how does CC lose to MSU at home? MSU is one of maybe two teams I don't wanna see us play in the Frozen Four


Gravatar Dumb fuckin penalty by Rust.


Gravatar @Ninja

Just figured out this Sopcast thing...


Thank you sir!!!


Gravatar Couple scares on the PK but it's done, about 12 to go


Gravatar Couple more good saves by Sauer. Time to get the pressure off him and put it on Clarkson


Gravatar Sauer is coming up HUGE so far!


Gravatar I think you are going to have a hard time getting any LSU fans to seperate themselves from those tix. The only big games in their eyes at home this year are UGA and Bama. The tickets are hard to come by any year this one is going to be real tough following NC and a scarcity of "quality" home games.


Gravatar Kolarik got stoned but M's going on the PP. And these TV guys are horrible


Gravatar You are all losers. Period.


Gravatar @MauiJim

"We don't want lightening quick running backs- we want big slow ones like Notre Dame, Penn state and Sparty"

thanks for that comment it really made my day.


Gravatar What a bs call on that last play.

These TV guys should be killed. Just awful.


Gravatar Palushaj PPG!


Gravatar @bw
That's what I'm saying. They're so anti-Michigan you'd think it was Jim Carty and Drew Sharp.
Anyway, beautiful wraparound by Palushaj for the lead. 5:30 left


Gravatar There is too much quality tv on right now, Pistons v. Cavs, UM hockey and the Ncaa tournament.

Sauer has been da man so far.


Gravatar Dennis:

Amen. This is as bad, maybe even worse than having to listen to Thorne and Clemente do a Wings-Avs game from Denver.

idlegolfer:

Thanks for the summary! Sounds like RR has things on track. I'm really glad a lot of pros have decided to come back and workout, that's always good for the program!


Gravatar JHS,
Michigan hockey > NBA! Yeah, Sauer's been excellent since that shakey CCHA tourney semifinal


Gravatar What's the score of the hockey game?


Gravatar 1-0 good guys


Gravatar Wisky is up on Denver 2-0?

Remember when Colorado college hockey used to be pretty good?


Gravatar @ Afrocalypse Now:

No problem man. That site saved me last fall when I took a 6 week vacation and visited my parents who don't have cable. Still got to watch Gameday, etc. I'll be streaming our games this fall to pass along the favor.


Gravatar Oh man, anyone else see that ill stick save the AF goalie made? Unbelievable!


Gravatar http://www.sportingnews.com/your...ic.php? t=392911

Sporting news has a nice article up about the Boren fiasco. Worth reading.


Gravatar @Ninja

Are you going to the streaming the B10 Network games too?


Gravatar bw,
I saw that game earlier, the save was awesome. That temporarily changed the momentum of the game and AF went ahead after that, but they gave up the lead after a too many men penalty and lost in OT


Gravatar bluewolv, even in a losing effort, his performance was top notch! That game should have been 10-2.


Gravatar I need score updates!


Gravatar I don't think this has been posted yet but - "Terrelle. You're awesome. So proud of you. Can't wait to make your dreams come true. Call me when you have a minute. I'm going on with the media @ 1 pm. Love you man."
That is the text the Vest sent to Pryor right after he signed with University of Ohio State.


Gravatar 1-0 Michigan
0-0 for Minnesota-BC
2-1 Wisconsin-Denver


Gravatar 1-0 UM 16 mins left in the 2nd, theres an update for ya Anon.


Gravatar Thx for the updates. I accidentally posted anonymous


Gravatar BC scores first, 1-0 early in the first


Gravatar time for an insurance goal


Gravatar Me thinks the vest wants to take a bubble bath with TP!


Gravatar JHS-

Great find on the SN about Boren.

Too bad a fUoOS fan living in Detroit managed the first comment. What a screwed up group of people.


Gravatar That text is just further proof that Tressel loves men (not that there is anything wrong with that).


Gravatar Sounds good, just need to clear this penalty off. Porter's due for another four goals so the announcers can ignore him again and mention Miami's Ryan Jones as the goal-leader


Gravatar didnt know there was a penalty. Im not watching. Dont have ESPN U. Am depending on these updates


Gravatar dix go to the hockey page on mgoblue - can get audio and stats live from the game.


Gravatar awesome thx


Gravatar Yep, I'd hate for ESPN to air this on a channel more than 1% of the population might have. I had to head home to catch these games since my parents have satellite (I didn't want to count on streaming it, but fortunately a few good souls are making that possible)


Gravatar Is it me or does Michigan look tighter tonight than they did last night?

Maybe our youth is suddenly becoming a factor?


Gravatar Dennis:

I seem to remember being able to watch at least part of the Frozen Four on ESPN2 back in the 90s.

Maybe the NHL lockout damaged hockey's marketability beyond the pros?


Gravatar I am listening now online, thanks ya'll. I will be in Vegas with all my old college buddies for a bachelor party when the Frozen Four is going on.


Gravatar bw,
Frozen Four, yes, but the regionals are hardly ever aired on a channel someone might have.
Also, HUGE save by Sauer


Gravatar Too many stupid penalties...Clarkson is going to capitalize one of these times.


Gravatar ESPN2 back in the day used to show the frozen 4 - now that espn doesn't even show nhl on the flagship or espn2 - its no surprise that they won't show college hockey, its all about ratings.


Gravatar Man we gotta stop giving up so many PPs to Clarkson...can't keep handing them chances even though they're 0-4 on PP tonight.


Gravatar ooooooooooooooh SEEEYA


Gravatar Are we like the most penalized team in the NCAA or does it just seem that way? I'n not at all comfortable with what I'm reading here (at work right now, no sopcast). Need goals.


Gravatar http://terpstake.blogspot.com/20...s- insights.html

two audio clips of tom beaver on the radio - discusses boren and spring pratices.


Gravatar If I have to put up with 8,000 rounds of college basketball on common channels, I should be able to see the first two (of only four) rounds of college hockey without having an upgraded satellite package


Gravatar Clarkson definitely isn't scared of our rep or record...we gotta shut these guys down with one more goal this period.

Pistons up on Cavs 41-24 in the 2nd hahaha.


Gravatar Jeez, back to the box, enough of these penalties


Gravatar another penalty - hopefully we can keep killing them.


Gravatar im nervous, whats the 5 penalties?


Gravatar What a stupid penalty...I mean seriously, use your speed to beat the gun to the puck, don't trip him. These clarkson players are slow but bruising. We need to start using our speed and stop being afraid to get hit.


Gravatar Tough to score when we're in the box 1/2 the period.


Gravatar Great, just got the audio in time to hear the M penalty. This is brutal. Need a freakin' goal or we could very well lose this game.


Gravatar This is a perfect example of how a 1-goal lead in hockey is the worst lead in sports.

Clarkson is gaining confidence by the minute and they are playing like they have nothing to lose - exactly what they should be doing...arrrrrrrghhhhh...


Gravatar Penalty cleared again. Starting to feel like we're destined to win this one despite all the calls


Gravatar Billy is on his game tonight. What a difference from last year...


Gravatar Sauer bringing the A game tonight, he has really stepped it up.


Gravatar DAMN, two great chances for us but no goals


Gravatar Fuck you Leggio!


Gravatar Oh god, this is reminding me of all those Wings games where Detroit outshot the opponent 60-30 but still lost the game.


Gravatar ok, still 1-0 after 2. BC and Wisconsin also have 1-goal leads


Gravatar I fucking hate Wisconsin.


Gravatar JHS

Like football and Ohio State, or you just hate them normally?


Gravatar There's no reason Wisconsin should be in this tourney no matter if they beat Denver tonight.


Gravatar I hate Wisconsin not as much as OSU, but I hate those bastards. Classless fans.


Gravatar Also, Blackburn should become more than just a volunteer after this amazing turnaround by Sauer this year.


Gravatar Yeah seriously they had a losing record they should not be in the damn tourney.


Gravatar They could put a stoplight and a traffic cone in the booth at Albany and get better announcing.

Good god.


Gravatar Well UCLA about to be in the final 4 for the 3rd year in a row - luckily for them they don't have to worry about the Gators knocking them off.


Gravatar hey y'all. looks like the semifinals will be on espn2...

http://www.ncaa.com/ uploadedFile...3292008.pdf.pdf


Gravatar PORTER!!! 2-0


Gravatar What a pretty goal. Great start...GO BLUE!!!!!


Gravatar Looks like Wisconsin's gonna win, and Minnesota tied up BC. Things are looking up, so who knows, maybe Notre Dame will beat MSU


Gravatar Now if they can just stay out of the penalty box.......


Gravatar could have 3 CCHA teams in the Frozen Four if Miami wins (and of course UM keeps the lead on for win).


Gravatar @Ninja

Are you going to the streaming the B10 Network games too?


That's the plan as of now.

Dix & Dennis:
You know you can watch the games on your computer, right? Check out my post toward the top of this thread.


Gravatar Wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if Miami advances, but I'd feel nervous if both MSU and North Dakota were around


Gravatar Ninja,
I've been watching on ESPNU, as I mentioned earlier, but thanks, I'm glad it's available


Gravatar Wow, Leggio's looking like Air Force's goalie, Michigan's just the better team


Gravatar i am not on my own computer so i cant download the sopcast stuff. im basically at a friends house being rude listening to the game on their computer.


Gravatar If they don't support you supporting Michigan, they're not real friends


Gravatar I see Dennis talking to Dix and am getting flashbacks of Oregon ass spanking us.


Gravatar No way that happens here, but I'll change my name if necessary ;-)


Gravatar W00t?! Brian's prayers are answered?!?! this makes me question my whole belief system... not. But good news. We've been needing some good P.R. to push the lying/disloyal/weak/lazy boren talk off the frontpage.

But even if I think praying is stupid, I'm not above superstition. so keep up UR praying mr. cook.


Gravatar Ok guys, just wanted to make sure you knew it was available. didn't realize you were watching Dennis, for some reason I missed that.

"Rodriguez was hired to win football games; it's just that simple. He was hired to beat Ohio State -- not placate 18-, 19- and 20-year-old kids who don't like change."

BEST. QUOTE. EVER.


Gravatar w00t, 5-on-3 time
Thanks, Ninja


Gravatar Holy shit...Did you see that? Sauer damn near scored on himself!


Gravatar Meanwhile: Lebron James is 4-14 for 11 pts against Detroit in the 3rd. SUCK ON THAT OHIO


Gravatar ...I really hate Gametracker, how much time is actually left in the game?


Gravatar Oh, Lebron James, the Alex Rodriguez of basketball. May you never win a ring


Gravatar About 3:00 left, Michigan power play


Gravatar BBB, about 3 minutes. gonna be 4-on-4 for a good portion of that


Gravatar And to 4x4 after Clarkson draws a penalty on a good shorthanded chance


Gravatar And another penalty on Michigan, 4x3, 2:07 left


Gravatar 4-on-3 for Clarkson, a little over 2 to go, might see the goalie pulled


Gravatar Argghh penalties!


Gravatar And an empty net on top of that, 5x3


Gravatar OMG Sauer!


Gravatar Billy Sauer is awesome, Porter just misses a long shot on the empty net


Gravatar OMG Sauer's en fuego!!


Gravatar How Much Time Is Left?

THANK YOU.


Gravatar 10 seconds left, face off outside the zone


Gravatar Sauer is DA MAN - Frozen four here we come.


Gravatar Thank you hockey gods.


Gravatar Ok everybody, see you for the Frozen Four


Gravatar How the hell did Sauer NOT give up a goal there. Incredible.


Gravatar GLI champs, CCHA regular season champs, CCHA tournament champs, Frozen Four... hell of a season so far.


Gravatar w00t!

Kudos to Sauer for holding the shutout!

Pistons dropping deuce on Cavs!

w00t!


Gravatar Now I can turn my thoughts to Sparty. I'm sending the evil eye to Colorado Springs.


Gravatar Holy ! Helluva game Sauer. Go Blue!


Gravatar Nothing wrong with being the Alex Rodriguez of anything. He's only the best baseball player alive. It's not like he can single handedly win a ring on his own. Also, Derek Jeter sucks ass, that is all.


Gravatar Hopefully DanK will provide pre- and post-game orgy reports on Monday!


Gravatar ...somuch for fixing the hole in the fence. Come on Chris,pull the trigger.


Gravatar Sparty, No!


Gravatar I concur with the Jeter sucks ass post. He should have went to UM and not went the Yankees, damn pretty boy.


Gravatar Mike Brown on Lebron: "he's not my boss, but I'm not his boss either"

Kind of sad.


Gravatar Do we play Sparty in the next round?


Gravatar So is the sparty game on at 10?


Gravatar Yep, if Sparty wins, we got 'em in the semis. Fuck.


Gravatar Ugh so I gotta root for ND over sparty.

Sparty No, indeed


Gravatar I hate UNC, I really hope someone can beat them.


Gravatar Jeter is the kind of POS M bandwagoneer I don't want anywhere near AA. You had your shot to be Blue and you blew it pal. Go blow A-Rod some more.

Can I root for the "asteroid" in the ND-Sparty matchup?


Gravatar JHS:

Your hate list is disturbingly similar to mine!

Hahahh, JoePa is coming back after this year hahahahahha...what's that smell coming out of Happy Valley?

*sniff* *sniff*

Smells like irrelevance!


Gravatar Bluewolverine - I hate a lot of things, glad you can share some of my hatred! Oh yeah and I hate PSU too! The smell coming out of Happy Valley (IMO) is a mix of BRAINS, JoePA crapping his pants (again)and mediocrity.


Gravatar Jason Maxiell is nasty - throwing it down on the cavs!

UM and Pistons win and a new commit - what a day!


Gravatar Can anyone update me on the Sparty score? Or did they already play?


Gravatar it starts at 10

bada bing you can watch that game through sopcast.

scroll up to see how.


Gravatar Be warned, the Sopcast of the ND-Sparty matchup is really choppy compared to the Michigan game.


Gravatar ditto to the asteroid on the NDvMSU matchup...
I guess I'd rather play ND, just because I hate the lergs, especially the midget goaltender


Gravatar Gotta be ND. Sparty's given us fits all year. Just imagine how badly it would suck if they beat us in the FF. They're obnoxious dicks when they lose so if they win... excuse me while I hurl.


Gravatar @ bluewolverine:

Are you using VLC? It tends to help with the choppiness.


Gravatar Ninja:

Yeah, I'm VLC'd up.

The Michigan game looked great, I think there were 2 dropouts at the most. The ND-MSU game has clogged every 30 or 45 seconds.

Oh well.


Gravatar I have beer, have flown today and flying tomorrow, Michigan won, and I am better than all of you.


Gravatar I have 9% ABV Dogfish Head 90 Minute Imperial IPA.

I win.


Gravatar I got fridge full of Keystone, and Stroh's with some seagrams gin and juice and a couple of guinesses and a x-mas ale too.


Gravatar Wow Hansbourough gets every friggin call - what a joke.


Gravatar God I love blue football but the players can be such assholes...I'm sitting here watching hockey and the players next door keep coming over and fucking with me. What the hell right?


Gravatar Sparty & the domers tied at the end of 1 period.


Gravatar Keep the Sparty udates coming.


Gravatar MTS:

Are you in South Quad or something?

Any chance you can get some of their scraps? You should be working on that, not posting here!


Gravatar Bummer dude. Must be a lot more people checking out this game than ours.

It'd suck if we played Lil Bro and lost next weekend, but I'm willing to take that chance for the opportunity to beat them.


Gravatar West Quad


Gravatar @FLight-Sci

are you gonna be making any more DVDs this upcoming season - drop me a facebook if so.


Gravatar Wow, my Sopcast just totally dropped during the intermission interview.

WTF?

I guess there were like 3 Clarkson alums watching their team on Sopcast.


Gravatar Beating sparty would be the shit - but to me a win over ND is just as good if not better than beating sparty - and I like our chances of beating ND.


Gravatar MTS:

Dude, you're an undergrad in WQ and you're posting here on a Saturday night?

As someone who spent too much time in the grad stacks I implore you to get out to Skeeps or Rick's or something!


Gravatar Mike Cox, meet your maker:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/pl...rs/draft/ 410388


Gravatar I'm leaving very soon, I was watching the game with some people in my room!

The night is young!


Gravatar Anyone know if UM is thinking William Campbell may play OL?


Gravatar I think the game is also on TVU, least what sparty people were saying on RCMB.

Will come back in a minute to share what I find out


Gravatar He said in an interview that he wants to play positionwise wherever He "can make the most money in the NFL"

Dollars to donuts he ends up at DT.


Gravatar Looks like the Sopcast is back up


Gravatar He said in an interview that he wants to play positionwise wherever He "can make the most money in the NFL"

Dollars to donuts he ends up at DT.
Jim Harbaugh Scramble | 03.29.08 - 10:59 pm | #


Since the arrival of Barwis, donuts no longer exist.


Gravatar Sparty, NO - ND goal!


Gravatar Your probably right. Heres a vid from a cass tech practice. Watch what an animal he is when coach chews his ass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w...2u6zawRuMs& NR=1


Gravatar Weis E. Coyote!!!


Gravatar charge on thompson? who do they think he is? handsburro?


Gravatar ND 1 - MSU 0


Gravatar wow haloscan is sucking for me tonight.


Gravatar Hes #73 by the way.


Gravatar why does louisville thing its necessary to bounce pass every ball as hard as they can?


Gravatar Haloscan sucking? Surely you jest.


Gravatar Did you guys know that Tyler Hansbrough plays hard. I didn't until Jay Bilas told me. Then he told me again. And again, and again, and again, and again, and again.


Gravatar aw man that his post.


Gravatar off the cross bar, thats tough.


Gravatar Did you know that Jay Bilas has never seen Hansboro take a play off in his entire career?

Did you know I would pay money to punch hansboro and roy williams in the face?


Gravatar but you wouldnt punch jay bilas in the face?

the espn u feed sounds like im listening to the game through a cardboard tube.


Gravatar Ugh my worst nightmare is coming true, UNC in the final four.


Gravatar Still ND 1 - MSU 0, 12 to go in the 2nd


Gravatar Jay Bilas is a good analyst when it comes to breaking down the game. He does know his shit. But when it comes to to doing commentary he turns into a member of the "OMG I have such a Mancrush on (insert name here)" club Dick Vitale is the Pres. of that club.


Gravatar You telling me brent musberger isn't president. I am shocked, shocked.


Gravatar Wow, the ND gold helmets are a little Tressel.

And by Tressel (based on his love note to TP) I mean gay.


Gravatar The Sopcast may be up, but it looks like an oil slick on my monitor. Oh well.


Gravatar is it just me or is ND winning the faceoff matchup by at least 2 to 1.


Gravatar SPARTY NO- 1 all.


Gravatar Now Hansborough is better than MJ. Sheesh.


Gravatar TIED!


Gravatar ND and MSU tied at 1 with 11 to go in the 2nd.


Gravatar The tampon applicator with the goal


Gravatar I don't understand why ND has "Notre Dame" in allcaps Times New Roman on their jerseys instead of the ND logo.

SPARTY, NO!!!


Gravatar @Devil's Advocate
"Wow, the ND gold helmets are a little Tressel.

And by Tressel (based on his love note to TP) I mean gay."

LOLZ - thanks for the laughs.


Gravatar JHS,

Vitale kicked Musberger's ass in a fight to be the president.


Gravatar Campbell on the OL would be a tremendous waste IMO. He's impossible to block 1 on 1.


Gravatar "Now Hansborough is better than MJ. Sheesh."

lol - yeah really, OMG best college player EVAR111!!!one!


Gravatar PP ND


Gravatar that break away scared me.


Gravatar @Devil's Advocate
"Wow, the ND gold helmets are a little Tressel.

And by Tressel (based on his love note to TP) I mean gay."

LOLZ - thanks for the laughs.


I second that.


Gravatar Dick Vitale was once coach of the pistons - he was so bad he made Alvin Gentry and George Irvin look like Chuck Daly.


Gravatar ND sucks at keeping it in the offensive zone... on power plays. This does not look good.


Gravatar Upon further review those ND gold helmets are very Tressel.


Gravatar 2-1 Irish! Stir up the echoes or however the hell that thing goes.


Gravatar Upon further review those ND gold helmets are very Tressel.
Jim Harbaugh Scramble | 03.29.08 - 11:22 pm | #

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Gay Helmets 2 - MSU 1


Gravatar Completely off topic, and I'm usually not much for comic book movies, but have you guys seen the trailer for Iron Man? Definitely does not lack top-end savoriness.


Gravatar WEIS E. COYOTE!!!


Gravatar Keegan-- haha that is very, very accurate description of Jay Bilas.


Gravatar Well they waived off the goal, Spartan Bob must be up in the both.

@Ninja

Iron Man looks awesome.


Gravatar No goal - man in crease. Gay Helmets 1 - Gay Greek Guys in Skirts 1


Gravatar Ninja:

I've always liked Iron Man, and I'm looking fwd to the flick. Maybe it's b/c I'm an EE.

I'm also partial to Blade. Mainly because I work for two "...muthafukkaz always tryin' to ice skate uphill..."


Gravatar One thing that I love about hockey is that the team that has a goal nullified scores again within the next two minutes 83.7% of the time.


Gravatar OK I made that up, but it happens a lot. Hopefully here as well.


Gravatar 90% of all statistics can be manipulated any way you want


Gravatar @Bluewolverine

what is an "EE" - electrical engineer?


Gravatar JHS:

You're exactly right about EE.

I'm a certified Michigan EECS freak, class of '01!


Gravatar I'm usually pretty excited about all the Marvel Comics movies - except for that Hulk with eric bana - I could smell that one coming, bad idea there.


Gravatar I had a class called "Lying with Statistics", but I can't remember if I took it at Michigan or Miami. I'm a total math guy (engineering and finance, anyone?) but I cannot stand stats. (In a non-sports context, of course)


Gravatar YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE HIRED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 111111111111


Gravatar Ninja:

Haha, I hated stats too. I had to take Engin Stats twice and barely got through Random Signals and Noise in grad school.

Then I taught myself how to lie with stats and my working life got a lot better!

Hahah.


Gravatar Everybody knows that 90% of statistics are misleading 51% of the time.


Gravatar My God SNL sucks ass. What a shame.


Gravatar it is kinda sad (kinda sweet?) that the response times to posts on a saturday night are absurdly fast.


Gravatar gay skirts / gay helmets / score?


Gravatar Math has always been my best subject (and now I'm a writer- go figure) but I struggled like a mofo when it came to my Stats classes. It totally pissed me off, but just couldn't get my head around it- some kind of weird mental block. Made me think it must really suck to be a person of average/below avg. intelligence.


Gravatar Toronto - 1-1 right now. 2nd intermission.


Gravatar I remember my stats class. I used to have to run from South Quad to Angell Hall to avoid sniper fire.


Gravatar stats350 is easily the biggest joke at UofM


Gravatar Ninja:

I'll trade you.

English was always my best subject, but somehow I wound up an electrical engineer after a long flirtation with architecture.

Stats in school were always too theoretical.


Gravatar OK, so there was no sniper fire. I made a mistake.


Gravatar I've never taken a stats class in my life, thank god. God bless BAs in Classical Studies.


Gravatar DA:

There is a picture of Hillary under the entry for "unelectable" in the dictionary.


Gravatar @ beantownblue:

Yeah, kinda sad. Personally I'm still recovering from last night. I got to watch basketball with a bunch of Spartan fans while taking their money (won $50 playing poker). Poor bastards.


Gravatar the biggest joke of a class in the engineering school is IOE 265 aka engineering stats aka 90% of the class get an A. They just made it a requirement for my major the year i graduated and the only reason I ever went is because there were a handful of half-decent looking girls in the class, hich is a handfull more than I ever saw in any of my other engin classes


Gravatar "OK, so there was no sniper fire. I made a mistake"

For a second you had me thinking you were at Kent State in the 60's.


Gravatar or Va Tech

too soon....


Gravatar Ninja---same here.. another all-day hangover. but at least you made money. there were a few surprises today when i checked my account balance...


Gravatar DA:

There is a picture of Hillary under the entry for "unelectable" in the dictionary.
bluewolverine | 03.29.08 - 11:47 pm | #


God I hope so. Sorry to any of her supporters, but she makes my skin crawl.


Gravatar i dont know who has a bigger Johnson, Hillary or Barwis


Gravatar talking about hillary is fun and all but to change directin.. i really hope the recent activity in our fball recruiting opens up the flood gates. personally i'd love to see some ridiculously athletic ghetto guys on D.


Gravatar Sad but true, but this is a real quote from Hillary:

"We need a president who is ready on Day 1 to be commander in chief of our economy."

Even more sad - people in PA applauded.

WTF?!?


Gravatar My Stats 350 professor--she had the biggest johnson.


Gravatar yea ridiculously good ghetto guys that do not have names similar to Pacman Jones or Noel Devine, right?


Gravatar I'm just happy that 10 years on Michigan Engineering still offers the POS I had to take twice, aka:

EECS 401 Probabilistic Methods in Engineering

Urge to kill fUoOS fans rising...


Gravatar A news analyst summed up the Clinton's in one great line:

"When the Clinton's need to lie a little, they lie a lot and when they don't need to lie at all, they still lie a little."


Gravatar Go fast ninja team ASSEMBLE!!

Mr Burgandy


Gravatar Sorry about the political talk, but it was intermission.

I think that we will be just fine with FB recruiting. Those who stay . . will not be fat pussies.


Gravatar EECS 401, oh gawd

I was in BME with a concentration in bioelectrics, so they tried to make me take 401, after I heard the millions of horror stories I took Math 425 and they let me get away with it. I feel bad for all EECS grads.


Gravatar I for one wish Mommy mommy I got some sand in my vagina what should I do Boren well wherever he decides to play his remaining years of eligibility.


Gravatar A pizza a day keeps the doctor away. And gets you an 8-4 record. But Lloyd still luvs me.


Gravatar Keegan... that is an awesome quote because it is true.


Gravatar u guys are some bitches. regardless, ur down with the M, and so am i.

f the buckeyes in their butts


Gravatar Hey Bill Clinton and Pacman Jones are both my boths - no badmouthing of those two.


Gravatar True....but scary.


Gravatar after living with some guys on the fball team it was a bit crazy to see them eat the type of shit they did all the time (pizza, pizza, and a protein shake).


Gravatar Apparently Tressel loves him too, in kind of a creepy uncle kind of way.


Gravatar correction -are both my boys -


Gravatar hold on I have a call from Mike Massey, umm its Thursday night before a home game and he wants everyone to meet him at Touchdowns, he's already wasted, who wants to join?


Gravatar JHS--respecting another person's opinion doesn't fly here.


Gravatar i heard that RR is going to institute some actual rules dealing with curfew during the season, is that true?


Gravatar thats bs will


Gravatar I'm sure the local pizza places were pissed when Git left and Barwis came in, they gotta be losing some major business.


Gravatar I was raised Republican and now subscribe to the "vote for whoever makes the most sense" philosophy. Obama seems like a pragmatist and there's a rumor of an Obama/Bloomberg ticket which would be sweet. I was a huge McCain fan back in '00, so i could handle him, too, but if Hilary gets elected I'm moving out of the country.


Gravatar Coach Rod actually had some pretty stringent rules at WVU, believe it or not. Here's a copy of part of the playbook. He's an intense dude.

http:// fastandfuriousfootball.co...nia_Offense.pdf


Gravatar is it really? I was kinda frustrated seeing all of those guys out at the bar and looking like shit in the 4th quarter of games, I thought I heard from someone that RR said something about having coaches out and about Ann Arbor on Thursday night to keep order. Maybe it was just a rumor


Gravatar I laughed really hard when people ask Obama should have her rus as his VP. Are you kidding me? She would have him whacked within 2 weeks.


Gravatar If McCain gets elected make sure they stick an oxygen tank and an iron lung in the oval office.

As a leftwinger I'll leave at that.


Gravatar Haha, my Sopcast looks like a toxic waste swirl.


Gravatar Will

_ i haven't heard about any new curfew rules, but they wouldn't surprise me.


Gravatar Hilary=the fail.


Gravatar hey ninja I sent you an email about the SopCast stuff, tried to do it on my own at myp2p.eu but couldnt figure out what patches to dl, etc...

should I dl Sopcast to get started? What do I do after that...


Gravatar the same thing happened under lloyd.at each bar they had a specifc employeed who kept tabs on if players were at the bar. guys who went out were either injured, redshirted, or later punished. so yeah, that is bs. i assume RR is doing the same.


Gravatar I'm a libertarian. They all suck.


Gravatar Yeah JHS, I dig the guy but anyone who is on his VP shortlist makes me think WTF? The republican party still thinks it's 1988, ie: Hey, here's an idea, let's run two old rich white guys.


Gravatar I think George Bush has slaves at the white house and eats babies


Gravatar kanye


Gravatar I am kind of glad that the link to the playbook didn't work for me. It sucks that such things are so readily available.


Gravatar LOLz at Kayne.

----

This has been a hell of a game, at this point I wouldn't be shocked to see an OT.

Would it be 20 minutes like NHL playoff OT?


Gravatar I'm a member of the "It's not whether you're paranoid, it's whether you're paranoid enough" political party.


Gravatar Is the MSU, ND over yet?

btw, I am now Davidson's biggest fan.


Gravatar HOLLA!

WE WANT PRENUP!

WE WANT PRENUP!

YEAAAAAAAA!


Gravatar Henne I'm pulling for Davidson - my bracket is fucked and I fucking hate UNC, Texas and Kansas - if one of them cuts down the nets I'll vomit.


Gravatar MSU PP. The guy may have been tripped, but I would give him an unsportsmanlike for hamming it up so much. . .


Gravatar Game is 1-1 1000 left in the third, sparty had 40 secs left on pp.


Gravatar Ah shit Will, sorry. I checked it once then forgot.

Go to myp2p.eu and download Sopcast, then download VLC.

Then go here: http://www.myp2pforum.eu/sopcast...opcast- vlc.html

It'll teach you how to link the two.

Then when you are interested in watching something go to their forums and see if someone is streaming it. for hockey that would be here:

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/ncaa/17...t-vp4- game.html

It doesn't always work if a lot of people are on, but it beats nothing.
I'll shoot you my number though, if you have questions feel free to call me.


Gravatar Hamming it up is so tressel (Not that there is anything wrong with that)


Gravatar over/under on Stephon Curry's age is 11.5 in Vegas. They have Greg Oden set at 32, DNA testing this week to confirm


Gravatar thanks Ninja, i'll email/call if i have any questions. Can you give me the MSU/ND link for a little practice?


Gravatar Is the Gay Helmet v. Gay Skirt game back on or over? I can't find it anywhere and I'm not good enough with technology to figure out how to watch on the link above. Update please?


Gravatar Oden only at 32? I've seen 50 year old crackheads aged better than oden.


Gravatar JHS

Tetris Jones would be the best name period.

In fact, from now on, Cass Tech RB Teric Jones is officially

Tetris Jones.

Sounds a thousand times better than Pacman Jones.


Gravatar Agreed. I hate it when people take dives. If you flail about rather than try to keep your feet, and you are looking to the ref before you hit the ice, then you get no call from me. So Tressel.


Gravatar H4H:

How can we be stopped with Matrix and Tetris in the backfield?


Gravatar 1-1 Mark in the 3rd around 9 mins left.


Gravatar "must be a crackhead!!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h? v=bZfyrIPw3wY

0:39, classic


Gravatar Will:

The MSU-ND Sopcast channel is 22668

This link explains how to use VLC in conjunction with Sopcast:

http://mactweak.blogspot.com/200...d- joost_07.html


Gravatar Tetris Jones would be pretty good. We could try to only recruit people named after classic video games. I am sure that there must be a Dig Dug Smith out there somewhere, and I bet he runs a kickass 40.


Gravatar Henne - I'm glad you agree with Tetris Jones.

Devil's Advocate - thank you for coining "Tressel" I'm gonna be using that one on a day to day basis.


Gravatar agreed bluewolverine.

Also liked the bit about how Weis is anorexic compared to Mangino.


Gravatar @Jim Harbaugh Scramble

Thanks, keep the updates coming if you will be watching till the end.


Gravatar Will,

Here's the link for Gay helmets v gay skirts.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/ncaa/17...t-vp4- game.html

It's the bottom part where it says "VP4/the Game".

And I'll be up for at least another hour if you need to call.


Gravatar ND scores!


Gravatar know how I know you are "Tressel?" You listen to Coldplay


Gravatar Wake up the echoes!


Gravatar 2-1 ND 5.34 left - wake up the echoes, fire up the band or whatever.


Gravatar SPARTY NO!


Gravatar As much as I love Tetris Jones, I'd still be more comfortable if Oku committed as well.


Gravatar Know how I know that Tressel is Tressel? His lack of a gag reflex is considered one of his greatest recruiting tools.

Oh yeah, I went there.


Gravatar I pick ND in overtime.


Gravatar ND scores again. Sparty = Mega fail


Gravatar The Spartan radio guys sound like they just took a bunch of downers. Hilarious!


Gravatar @will

You know how I know you're Tressle - because you like Asia and own a sweatervest.


Gravatar By your comments

I'm guessing it is 3-2 Irish?


Gravatar 2-1 for the fighting Charlies


Gravatar 3-1 South Bend fruit squad.


Gravatar make that 3-1


Gravatar 3-1 ND. Spartina blows.


Gravatar But 3-2 is "crose enough".


Gravatar Wow, the Gay Skirts are falling apart. What aren't they just playing like the 1995 New Jersey Devils? Oh yea, Shegos is reffing in Madison. Tuff break Gay Skirts.


Gravatar I miss Scotty Bowman.

The man looked like a pale Gecko.


Gravatar Man, I was really looking forward to watching us v. Spartina next weekend in a bar in East Lansing and mentioning how unfortunate it is their BBall team wasn't in the Final Four too.


Gravatar I don't think Sparty fans are gonna be thinking hoops for a while after that punch in the mouth they got from Memphis.


Gravatar Memphis looked impressive, but UCLA is still better.


Gravatar agree with that.


Gravatar That was more than a punch in the mouth - it was a full on tea-bagging.

MSU has pulled Lerg.


Gravatar @JHS:
That's precisely why I wanted to bring it up. Well, that and the fact that I'm an asshole, but I think that's already been established.


Gravatar How much time left for Sparty?


Gravatar Whoa the slapshot dude is one of ND's player's daddy!


Gravatar 24 seconds


Gravatar Looks like MSU is getting fitted for some Arabian Goggles.

Sparty, No!


Gravatar Sparty needs 2 goals in 24 seconds so they are SOL.


Gravatar Arabian Goggles. That's funny.


Gravatar Oooh, work is going to be so much fun on Monday. Can't wait to greet my green and white friends. They're all so fucking Tressel.


Gravatar Spartina goes down like an MSU coed!


Gravatar "Oooh, work is going to be so much fun on Monday. Can't wait to greet my green and white friends. They're all so fucking Tressel."

No I'm Fuckin' Tressel.


Gravatar Anyone know Michigan's record against ND? It seems to me it was good.


Gravatar It's not everyday that someone works arabian goggles into a conversation.


Gravatar Great chatting boys - I'm out hope we can do this again for the frozen four.


Gravatar Well, ND just took a Cleveland Steamer all over MSU's title defense hopes.


Gravatar 2-0 UM


Gravatar ...and Spartina gets the Hot Karl from ND!


Gravatar Ninja:

It's not about the Donkey Punch.

or the Teabagging.


Gravatar That is scary. I was just trying to think of a Cleveland Steamer reference.

Hopefully ND uses the layoff to remember that they are ND.


Gravatar Was it a Cleveland Steamer or a Cincinnati Bowtie?

And WTF are Arabian Goggles?


Gravatar Maybe Charlie will give them their pep talk before the game and fatten them up on donuts.


Gravatar It seemed like more of an Alabama hot pocket to me.


Gravatar Ninja Football-

Urban dictionary has the answers and more to your questions.


Gravatar Ninja:

Knowledge lies within:

www.urbandictionary.com


Gravatar cleveland steamer? is that the same as a cincinnati bowtie


Gravatar i like definition 4 the best

http://www.urbandictionary.com/ d...ncinnati+bowtie


Gravatar Is the Sparty mascot sporting a moustache?


Gravatar Will:

No, there is a difference.


Gravatar Alabama Hot Pocket also known as Space Docking.


Gravatar I just had a shooting star/rainbow appear over my head, and a voice-over saying "The more you know......"

True story.

Personally I think a Rusty Trombone is the most appropriate analogy, b/c it sticks with the Tressell theme.


Gravatar You can use "Williams" in the same context as "Tressel."

I am 98% sure he got a huge wood talking about Hansborough in his presser


Gravatar So do people actually do this stuff or do they just like to think up freakish acts and name them?


Gravatar Now that Sparty is done being Pink Socked, I can now rub it into the faces of all my stupid Sparty friends.


Gravatar "Alabama Hotpocket"? Oh holy fuck that's just wrong.


Gravatar I tried to look a few of those up online once. I was never the same


Gravatar Ninja-

It doesn't have to be.


Gravatar alright thanks for everyone helping me out with the SopCast stuff, time to study, grad school is as much fun as being on the receiving end of a boston pancake


Gravatar Jesus Mark,

I just had dinner 5 hours ago!


Gravatar Sorry, but that's nothing compared to the Boston Pancake.


Gravatar one more thing...new T-shrit idea

Tressel is Pyror's Alaskan Pipeline


Gravatar At this time of night I prefer the Chili Dog myself.


Gravatar Wise choice bluewolverine. Very wise.


Gravatar How pissed at someone would you have to be to give her a "hot lips houlahan"? Ouch. She'd end up feeling like Justin Boren.


Gravatar Tressel prefers the Cheese Dog.


Gravatar I don't know why this threw me into uncontrollable fits of laughter, but hot lunch and warm beer is hilarious to me. I guess that's the level I'm at, I need to go to bed if that's the case.


Gravatar With all of the terms that are already defined, I am surprised that there isn't a "Tressel" already. Maybe we should have a contest to define the "Tressel" (beyond just being synonymous with gay).


Gravatar HA! "Blumpkin". I worked at a restaurant in college and my buddy would always sneak up to the hostess stand and put "Blumpkin" on the wait list, resulting in a hostess walking around inquiring about "Blumpkin, party of two?". That never, ever got old.


Gravatar Tressell: the act of getting your ass pounded by an SEC team.


Gravatar Watch out for the Blumpkin Backfire.


Gravatar Nice, Ninja. I hope they get Tresseled again this year.


Gravatar On a different, less blumpkinesque subject, I had a discussion with a big ten die hard like myself. I wasn't sure if we were missing someone and thought I would ask the group.

From our estimation, there is only one sure fire NBA prospect in the entire Big Ten. Eric Gordon and maybe DJ White. Are there others that I am missing. Has there ever been this little talent in our league? How did this happen? Michigan alone used to have two NBA prospects on our teams at all times.

Are there really only one to two prospects or am I missing someone?


Gravatar On a related note - even with the transition to Beilein's system, if there is such a dearth of talent, how can we still be at the bottom of the conference? (Short answer - Amaker)


Gravatar I heard that they only game Amaker so much time to prove himself was because he was black anyway.


Gravatar Just got back from Albany. Observations from a fan who hasn't had much opportunity to see the team this year:

1) I've seen a bunch of college hockey teams in the past few weeks, and Michigan looked easily the best of all of them, even when they weren't looking so good in the first period against Clarkson.

2) I grew up watching them, but I can never get past it: Clarkson's band is terrible. They sound like somebody stuffed dung in their trumpets, they play whenever they feel like it (including STARTING songs during the Victors), and they use profanity liberally. They were downright rude to the Michigan fanbase before, during and after the game.

3) The reffing was horribly lopsided. Calls were going Clarkson's way 90% of the time and I dont know why. Michigan would have the exact same things happen to them and nothing would get called. It was really frustrating... not sure what everyone could see on TV.

4) Porter for Hobey Baker (Duh, right?). Yes he scores goals, but it's so much more than that. You can see his hockey smarts even more when he's nowhere near the puck... I've never seen anyone so good at reading the play 5 seconds before it happens. It's truly incredible.

This was a good weekend


Gravatar @ Devil's,

True. Amaker did ruin quite a bit.

I am at Purdue so I see them up close. My theory is that they weren't as good as last year but that the Big Ten fell that far. Actually Landry (doing well in the NBA) and Teague were a great pair. It was just tough to look very good in our league last year. This year Michigan, Iowa, Illinois, and Ohio State had huge lapses. Only Minnesota got any better. This was the worst year in the history of the Big Ten. I would like someone to analyze that because I think it is verfiably true.

Anyway, the league is wide open and I think that Beilein can make a run. Maybe not next year but it is not like in football where you have two national powers that swat everyone else down.


Gravatar I could care less how rude the fams are. I would prefer it, then you have more reason to be the "snobbish Michigan fan." SCOREBOARD!


Gravatar old fan:

I am concerned that Beilein's system will hamper his ability to recruit talent from Flint and Detroit. That is another discussion for another day though.


Gravatar When did you start watching Michigan hockey? I started when Denny Felsner was their stud and Chris Tamer was the toughest guy I had ever seen.


Gravatar Corey:

Agree about the reffing. It even seemed like the TV announcers were in on it at points.


Gravatar I agree with Corey about the officiating. I hate it when a team is allowed to take liberties just because they are labeled as "gritty." Frankly, I don't care how you call the game as long as you call it the same both ways.


Gravatar @ blue wolverine,

Maybe. But watching WVU this year and last, I saw somethings that kids could see as enticing.

It all depends on two years from now. If we start winning, then kids will follow. The scheme will not sell itself but winning will.

I really like the Novak signing. He just made first team all Indiana. He was way under the radar and now is getting alot of press down here. Memphis's five star recruit did not make this same all-state team.


Gravatar Does anyone know what conference was oficiating the game today? I only know the CCHA was reffing in Madison, Wisconsin.


Gravatar Just returned to NYC from the 2+ hour drive to Albany (now with 31% more available prostitutes!). Couple of observations:

M much less tense in the first period today. Clarkson a better team in all facets.

Lots of Clarkson extra-curriculars away from the puck and when the refs were looking away. To M credit, no one took the bait.

Seats right on the blue line, and I don't think I've seen so many poorly called offsides in years. This went both ways.

The Clarkson band was classless. Everytime our band played The Victors, they would absolutely BLARE some lame song with a similar beat to mess up the timing.

M fans easily outnumbered Clarkson fans, even if Clarkson is much closer. Perhaps everyone on their side was wearing green and were hard to pick out, but i'll be damned if i saw more than a handful of Clarkson students.

The locals stayed away in droves. Vast swaths of the upper deck were empty yesterday, today they had a big black tarp across the upper deck, i suppose for looks on TV. In any case, still lots of seats in the end zone. You would think that the NCAA would give batches of tickets away to pee wee hockey teams to fill some seats.

Clarkson's skating golden knight mascot had me hoping for a repeat of the St. Cloud mascot incident mentioned this week. No such luck, although he did manage to look like an idiot.

Mass indifference throughout the M section when the Minnesota and Wisky scores were announced. Few claps but not much.

I feel sorry for the kids who made the trip from AA. apparently there are two bars in all of downtown Albany, and both are accross from the stadium.

All in all, worth the 300 miles roundtrip and $80 for tickets to see an M game in person again. Now if I can just convince my wife that Denver is a lovely place to visit in April...

MBAgoblue


Gravatar MBA --

It was 70 degrees in Denver today.

I'll be flying out for the final should we win on the 10th. Anyone have any idea what the ticket situation is? I was hoping to just scalp one and they'll probably be plentiful since half the teams lose two days earlier...


Gravatar I think I heard it's already sold out. That's what they said on the radio during today's game.


Gravatar Could be lots of CC fans bought them up figgering they'd be there, like Sparty did for the basketball regional in Detroit. I'd bet on ticket availabilty


Gravatar If you fly out there and there aren't any tickets and you can't go to the game, that would be soooo Tressel.


Gravatar There are always tickets to any event.

The question is are you willing to pay?


Gravatar Waaaaaaayyy Tressell.

Hey Old Fan:

In relation to your lack of talent in the Big 10 comment, Kansas has four McDonald's All-Americans on the roster and five other players who were ranked among the top 55 prospects nationally by one recruiting service or another as high school seniors.


Gravatar Bill Self is downright Zookian. What's going on there? I know that they have history and a cool chant. Is that enough to convince a kid to sit on the bench instead of star somewhere.


Gravatar That amount of talent is insane.

A funny UoOS poster regarding the definition of "Tressell" I posted above:

http://loserswithsocks.com/2008/...michigan-style/


Gravatar I'm going regardless -- when the FF was in Cinci I called the ticket office the Monday after the regionals and picked up a ticket no problem. It's become a much bigger event since then, however.


Gravatar Earlier today I read something about Brandon Minor taking snaps at QB. Has there been anything evidence of that or is it just a rumor?


Gravatar The Minor thing's legit. They've been hinting at a "surprise" QB for a few weeks now. How many snaps, don't know...

He was the star today at RB...


Gravatar Minor at QB was adressed earlier in the thread:

"Brandon Minor is taking reps at QB as well as RB.

And supposedly has an ARM!"
anonymous | 03.29.08 - 6:54 pm | #

Not sure if that makes it true or not - but if you heard it and he heard it maybe something going on.

@Old Fan
I have an idea about the lack of talent in the big ten - if we are ever on at the same time I'll explain it to you.


Gravatar JHS,

I think that it is all Izzo's fault. Seriously, this guy has ruined the Big Ten by being so successful with defense. Now we have Bo Ryan and Matt Painter copying the blueprint. Brian explained (or Big Ten Wonk) that we have 10 less possessions per game. The slow game is lame to watch and doesn't showcase talent. Therefore they look elsewhere.


Gravatar Phil Fritz-Insider-

Hmmmmm, a surprise? In Michigan football? A surprise even more surprizey then Hart off left tackle? What is this word "surprise" in relation to Michigan football? I don't understand.


Gravatar Sorry Mark, but I'm very old and slow...
Minor apparently is the surprise QB.

Given that he also seems to be the top player of the spring at RB, not sure if he's just going to do an occasional snap at QB or what...


Gravatar agree with the point that the defensive style doesn't exactly get the get the Shirtless recruits.

My guess as to the decline - is I don't think the majority of the Big Ten schools are going to recruit the "one and done" players. And when they do recruit the players (like conley and oden) you have a big time year and then suck the next.


Gravatar Well, it should be interesting. I just hope that surprises are legal or else the NCAA is going to have a field-day with this. Lloyd would have never done anything this crazy. Though one time he did have Woodson (I think) throw the ball to Griese once. Maybe they aren't illegal afterall.


Gravatar That last post on bball recruits was mine.

I think Tom Beaver mentioned on a radio interview that Minor was excelling at both running back spots and was even getting a few snaps at qb. Perhaps we will see a wild "wolverine formation?"


Gravatar JHS

You on the west coast like me?


Gravatar That would be the opposite of Tressel! I'm stupidly (maybe) optimistic for the new football season.


Gravatar \The reffing was horribly lopsided. Calls were going Clarkson's way 90% of the time and I dont know why. Michigan would have the exact same things happen to them and nothing would get called. It was really frustrating... not sure what everyone could see on TV.//

I watched at a bar with the sound off and it was unbelievable how one-sided the game was called. It sucks being short-handed when you've got all five skaters on the ice, but Sauer and the penalty kill unit were lights-out. But if we get another game called like that against a better team (and I suppose Notre Dame would be considered better than Clarkson...certainly they're more popular nationwide of only for their football program) we could be in for a rough time. Hopefully we'll be able to avoid a WCHA crew in Denver.


Gravatar That last post on bball recruits was mine.

I think Tom Beaver mentioned on a radio interview that Minor was excelling at both running back spots and was even getting a few snaps at qb. Perhaps we will see a wild "wolverine formation?"
Jim Harbaugh Scramble | 03.30.08 - 2:18 am | #

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i would love to see that, even better if he has a good arm.nothing like having him take the snap and then throwing a perfect touchdown pass when no one is expecting it. i love the suprise element that is being added. a QB and 2 RB in the backfield, all of which can throw the ball.


Gravatar Minor apparently is the surprise QB.

Given that he also seems to be the top player of the spring at RB, not sure if he's just going to do an occasional snap at QB or what...
Phil Fritz-Insider | 03.30.08 - 2:14 am | #

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Two words: single wing


Gravatar Not sure if any one has seen this yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory? id=3320444

Justin Boren is going out like a disgruntled ex-lover. It is sad to see someone who once had so much promise become such a degenerate.


Gravatar BTW: Article is about RR's response to Boren.


Gravatar anyone else want to defend Boren? Didn't think so. The 'family values' excuse is classless and an easy cop out.


Gravatar Johnny S.:

Couldn't agree more about the officiating in the Michigan-Clarkson game.

What really worries me is if we get one of these clowns working the Michigan-ND game. I hate to say it, but ND is looking like the "hot" team playing above its level this year.

I think we can cool them off, but if we get stuck with a biased ref it's going to take a hell of a game from Michigan to do it.


Gravatar ".. I am unable to perform under these circumstances.." - Boren

There's a joke here.


Gravatar I'll defend Boran, err I mean Boren.
"if the program is not legit,
you have no choice but to quit"

Wait, I can't defend Boren, I'm dead.


Gravatar I am going to take my first stab at a depth chart for '08.

QB ThreetFeagin
RB MinorBrownGrady
SWR HemingwayOdom
SWR BabbRobinson
WR MathewsStonum
WR ClemonsSavoy
LT OrtmannO'Neill
LG Moosman??
C MolkBarnum
RG McAvoyZirbel
RT SchillingDorrestein

Also

TE ButlerWebbMassey
FB HelmuthMondrous

Obviously the O-Line and QB are the major issues. Thankfully it does not take a man crushing O-Line to run a successful spread. But there is no depth there, freshman are going to have to play and that spells Trouble. Guys will move between slot and RB - McGuffie, Shaw and Horn for example will play both places. Good thing is that the entire depth chart will return for '09 along with even more speed coming into the picture.

DE JamisonBanks
DT TaylorSlocum
DT JohnsonFerrara
DE GrahamPatterson
SAM EzehEvans
MIKE ThompsonPanterFitzgerald
WILL MoutonLoganDemens
CB TrentWoolfolk
CB WarrenDutch
FS BrownStewart
SS ChambersB.Smith

Also

NICKEL HarrisonWilliamsCissoko

Should be a very good defense. Good talent and depth at DL, good speed at LB and a very nice tandem at CB. Good depth in the secondary too when you add Mike Williams and Cissoko and consider Woolfolk has been drawing compliments from the coaches. I think somebody from D-Line will move to O-Line, maybe Ferrera.


Gravatar mvm--nick sheridan will most likely be the 2nd QB. don't expect much from feagin. i like his attitude and his quotes so far but really he is coming in just to fill a QB spot. our 1st legit QB should be coming from the 09 class..


Gravatar I'm with you, beantown.

I like Feagin's attitude, but I don't expect him to play much at UM. Still, just to have him in practice running the spread will benefit the whole team as they get ready to run it in 2009.


Gravatar hey, when mike hart came in, it was just to fill an RB spot.


Gravatar Zack Novak is Indiana First-Team All State bball:

http://www.indystar.com/apps/ pbc...D=2008803280452


Gravatar yeah definitely. obviously i hope for the best for feagin, ala hart, but i'm not expecting him to provide all that much besides depth.


Gravatar that right guard list makes me cringe.


Gravatar so i can still finish second in the pool with a UNC loss to Kansas and a UCLA victory over Texas, then UCLA victory in the championship. here's hoping we dont have the first all #1 final four ever.


Gravatar Not sure if any one has seen this yet.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory? id=3320444

MusketRebellion | 03.30.08 - 10:56 am | #

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my god the hate for michigan is strong on there..i love it


Gravatar Feagin could surprise some people. Don't forget that White was a WR recruit to everyone but R2.


Gravatar I heard that Nick Sheridan is actually outperforming Threet at this point because he runs like a 4.6 40 and can handle moving around better. He might be the sole starter!


Gravatar I like watching Sparty down by 30 at halftime.

The whistle goes Woooo WOOOOO!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Nnzw_i4YmKk


Gravatar Also, they say it's more likely that Ezeh moves to MIKE, Evans starts at SAM, and Thompson get banished to hell from whence he came.


Gravatar The O-Line situation is the main reason I think 8-5 is a likely record for '08. There are other reasons. But there really is only 1 proven guy on the O-Line (Schilling) and we all saw how he struggled vs. OSU.

Thing is, most of these guy that are there this spring were highly recruited but hadn't panned out yet.

The Rivals ratings for these guys

Schilling #2 - 3rd year in program
McAvoy #29 - 4th year
Molk #5 - 2nd year
Moosman #11 - 4th year
Ortmann #40 - 4th year
Zirbel #10 - 4th year
Dorrestein #43 - 3rd year
Huyge #65 - 2nd year

So it's not a complete lack of talent there and they've seen plenty of practices at M. Hopefully some new coaching can turn them around.


Gravatar @ chitownblue

Rodriguez made a point in his press conference to mention that Thompson was playing very well this spring. Don't know if that means he is starting, but it doesn't sound like a banishment to hell. We'll see.


Gravatar MVM,

Schilling's only proven he can be freight trained by any DE who has a pulse.


Gravatar Anyone else see that UoOS scheduled a home and home with UT for '18 and '19? I'd really like to see us scheduling more games like that once we're back on track.


Gravatar Sorry, I can't concentrate right now. I'm amazed at the amount of grotesque sexual acts referred to here and on urbandictionary. I can hardly breathe from laughing so hard. Some of them are so unbeliveable that you know this is all 12 year olds preteens think about and conjure up every day. I mean...the gym sock? hot karl? JONA AND THE FREAKING WHALE?

Brilliant.


Gravatar I second that, Ninja. So far UoOS has scheduled Texas, USC, and Tennessee. I would like to see us play a team like Oklahoma or Alabama. Clemson would also be interesting to play.

How about those two recruits we picked up? I knew we would start picking up recruits soon. Michigan is now among the group of schools that Dorian Bell is considering. And I really hope that Michigan can stage a major coup and score Newsome.

Why the hate against Will Johnson? He's supposed to be mighty strong. Besides, it doesn't seem like Lloyd's staff did such a good job developing the big guys.


Gravatar "O GOD WE LOVE HIM"

Seriously, I love this man!

Read this and think about what's to come :-)

After describing the afternoon’s various conditioning and speed drills (most of have already completed the day’s strength work), Barwis gives the players a heads up about the next day’s activity.

“Tomorrow there will be a bus out front of the building (the Puskar Center). I want everyone on it by three. Don’t wear cleats,” says Barwis in his heavy Philadelphia accent.

“What are we going to do?” asks one timid soul, wondering what lies ahead, as so far all the workouts have taken place at Mountaineer Field.

Barwis chuckles, a little too sinister for comfort, “You’ll find out tomorrow. But I can promise you one thing, we’re not going to #$@%& Kennywood (the Pittsburgh area amusement park).”

Such is the life of a Mountaineer football player in the summer. Sweating, straining, running, lifting. Every football player realizes that strength and conditioning workouts are a necessity to thrive in today’s highly competitive athletic world. But that doesn’t make the drills any easier, even for the sadists in the group who actually claim to enjoy working out. Rare is the Mountaineer player who doesn’t lose his lunch during some of Barwis’s hyperintensive workouts at the beginning of the summer.


Gravatar That was from a WV fan page


Gravatar Huss, you should check out what what I said about Coach Rod's comment, "This is not my first rodeo."


Gravatar MVM:

Thanks for the list of O-line recruiting rankings. Obviously those are never 100% accurate, but maybe the new staff will be able to tap more of their potential.

If RR is able to that with his wizard hat and snake oil we should have an okay, not great O-line next season.

Help us if one of them gets injured though.


Gravatar It's nuts. I was so tempted to choose all #1 seeds to make it to the final four. The #1 seeds are really that good this year. Then again, Memphis was a really tough team to figure out, and I wouldn't count out Davidson. Memphis has been unbelievable in the tourney this year. I was a believer in Clemson, but that didn't pan out.

#1 bracket on all of facebook is by a Michigan student!


Gravatar Huss,

We always try to keep the discourse at the highest levels on this board.


Gravatar You can get on Amazon.com -it's published buy "Spread Offenses for Dummies"


Gravatar If you can throw in 1-2 seconds, you don't have dominate the LOS. See what TUOS did to michigan in 2006 to deal with woodley and branch. Smith had the ball out in 1-2 seconds.

QB has to make a LOS read, and the read mismatch has to take place. Having a LB play a WR like DC english did negates a strong pass rush, lets the QB make the easy read and the easy throw. 42 points later.....
Now,if only the other teams don't cheat and make adjustments....


Gravatar Make an adjustment to another team's stradegy? What's that? That's illegal right? Lloyd would never do anything illegal.


Gravatar McNeal WR from Minn silent verbal ???


Gravatar Love this info on recruits. Keep 'em comin, boys.

McNeal: Rivals250. 6'2, 170 4.4. Sounds like Toney Clemons to me. Lots of second-tier BCS interest(Louisville, Iowa, etc). I'm all for it.


Gravatar I haven't seen more than three commits and I don't think he is one of them, I could be wrong though.


Gravatar he visited early in the week liked it...


Gravatar any word on McNeal as the 4th commit? scout has something about him up now.


Gravatar McNeal will probably be moved to DB if he comes to UM. That is the rumor.


Gravatar Is there any footage of the spring practice anywhere? I want to see football so badly I can't stand it.


Gravatar Any spring practice? I think theres 3 videos on mgoblue.com from the past few weeks.


Gravatar America Runs on Blumpkins?

Fucking brilliant.


Gravatar I've already seen the videos on mgoblue. I check it every 10 minutes like an anxious crack addict. There is a story on rivals about a spring game, but of course you have to be a paying member to see the whole article or any video (if there is any).


Gravatar At the risk of sounding like an SEC fan, the Miami Red Hawks are up 2-0 on Boston College (with admittedly a full period-plus of hockey to play), but it is looking VERY much like the CCHA will be providing three of the teams making up this year's Frozen Four.

Suck on THAT, WCHA.


Gravatar 30-28 at the half? Holy crap.


Gravatar Ninja:

It's not my original, but Google revealed it to me.


Gravatar The CCHA is the easily and consistantly the best hockey conference in the country. The WCHA is very overrated and I think its been proven this year. Congrats to ALL CCHA teams, except OSU and MSU. You are both Tressel.


Gravatar You jinxed them -- BC scores 3 in about 2 minutes to take the lead.


Gravatar Yeesh...unless ESPN's site was just given a double-dose of Woodstock-potency acid, Boston College has just socred three goals inside about a minute and a half to take the lead.


Gravatar Seriously, WTF?


Gravatar maxHubris,

Isn't what you described a lot like the Run & Shoot offense?

So what happened in 2006? It seems like in 2006 Michigan relied more on blitzing over and over again with little strategic adjustment. Yes, Tressel is a great coach, but did Michigan allow itself to get out-coached? It also helps that UoOS had Troy Smith and others, but should Michigan have made more obvious coaching adjustments to make the game more winnable?


Gravatar In my defense, BC isn't in the WCHA. There are still at least 50% of the teams in the Frozen Four are from the CCHA. But really? 3 goals in 2 minutes? Zatkoff IS the best goalie in the CCHA after all.


Gravatar 3-2 BC, third period about to start.

Plenty of hockey to play.

But it would be nice if Miami would resume playing it as Boston College does not appear to have stopped.


Gravatar In national conversation, the question
"how does Michigan differ from Auburn" is a serious question concerning the football programs that is not easily answered...and one highly ranked Junior prospect (ranked at a time when rankings never remain steady) and "Armageddon" has been avoided. I love delusional fans.


Gravatar I love people who miss sarcasm.


Gravatar Oh Jesus I missed the website. that's even better.

Wayman- In '06 we did blitz a lot and had a damn good game plan against UoOs. Unfortunately we didn't have the secondary to go along with the front 7. If Crable doesn't get that personal foul we win that game, and while Crable was a serial killing maniac, I'm starting to think that the majority of our defensive lapses in the 4th quarter over the past few years have been conditioning related. Easier to make mental mistakes when you're tired, and if you start looking at a lot of our (non)- performances it makes sense.


Gravatar BC 3
Mia 3

'bout 10 minutes left in the 3rd.


Gravatar Looks like it's time to boot up some Sopcast action.


Gravatar Miami aren't the #2 ranked team in the country for no good reason.

They're the #2 ranked team in the country because they can't beat us.

And that's a damn good reason.


Gravatar Wow, Miami just got completely hosed on a penalty call. The announcers and everyone else with a pulse assumed it was a BC penalty. The referee, however, called it on Miami.


Gravatar OH! That holding call was total bs.


Gravatar In 2006, I think UOS seen the lack of DB depth on michigan in the ball state game and just put out enought receivers to ensure Sears was on the field. I think we kept a LB in there for the whole first half instead of an extra DB. I can't remember smith holding the ball very long early. Drop back throw, drop back throw. they got the DL gassed from rushing the QB in a fast paced tempo, then they ran/threw long after the DL quits/slows.
Hey, this is Michigan and we should be cutting edge. Other teams should be worried about dealing with Michigans schemes and who they are going to match up, not the other way around.
Stopping the spread: I've seen the spread stopped when the other team was much better and could just lock down across the board. UGA vs UH. YOu also take away the easy read. You drop NT into the passing lanes, move people around, make the QB check down. Then hammer the QB. See giants vs pats. for some reason the Pats, until late, stuck with the 4-5 sec patterns even though they were getting whipped up front. Finally, they went to the 2 sec patterns and the giants gassed. Of course, the giants got the ball back and scored last.
Here is to seeing the fat wads in the B10 get gassed by Q2, bent over hands on knees, waiving to the sidelines begging to get out of the game.


Gravatar CCHA hating refs in two different places.


Gravatar Amen Mark.

Hubris I think you're absolutely correct. Shafer's aggression coupled with our talent, the (now) superior conditioning and R2's knowledge of the spread will make us difficult to beat.


Gravatar Ridiculous(ly lucky) save by Zatkoff and Miami kills the bogus penalty.


Gravatar Overtime, 3-3.


Gravatar They just keep playing 20 minute overtimes until someone scores, right? Not like the evolutionally disfigured hockey in the NHL.


Gravatar If they pull this out they're going to need the two-week wait (dumbest idea EVER) to recover from their regional games.


Gravatar Mark: That's correct.

And the NHL doesn't even run that circus act in the postseason...20 minute periods until someone scores.

No matter how long it goes on.


Gravatar Wrestlemania anyone?

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/29704

Cut and paste that in your browser if you have Sopcast.


Gravatar Johnny-

I'm glad someone agrees with me on the freak show that has become the NHL. The other day there was a pentalty shot in the Montreal v. Toronto. Instead of watching, I just kept reading. What has gone wrong with people aren't extra excited to see a penalty shot in a game that involves the two most successful NHL franchises in history?!


Gravatar Mark, it's a classic example of a league that's just trying too hard and has been ever since Gary Bettman took over the commissionership (if that's even a word?)...the league spent years overexpanding and relocating teams to questionable markets (including my own, I have to admit). They've been hemorrhaging cash ever since and have been cutting corners in the place where they really couldn't afford to do it (TV contracts) and now after two suicidal labor stoppages they're trying to dumb down the game to try to attract casual sports fans...which has NEVER been the sport's bread-and-butter.

I don't need to tell you guys this, though...you're an Original Six market, you've probably forgotten more about hockey than most people in my (red)neck of the woods will ever know. True story.


Gravatar Miami has looked like the clearly superior team so far in the OT


Gravatar Flight booked to Denver. Rock.


Gravatar The officials are swallowing the whistle now.


Gravatar Gary Bettman = Tressel.

There is a reason that everytime he presents The Stanley Cup he is viciously booed.


Gravatar \There is a reason that everytime he presents The Stanley Cup he is viciously booed.//

It's true. There was a small faction of fans in Atlanta who was trying to reach out through the Thrashers' message board imploring us not to boo Bettman at the All-Star Game this year. The idea was generally rejected, as NOT booing him would only reconfirm the notion in the more traditional markets that we really don't know a damn thing about the sport down here.


Gravatar Holy Blast From the Past, Batman:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...:MEWA:IT& ih=012


Gravatar CCHA=Not so much


Gravatar BC is dominated for almost the entire game yet beats Miami.


Gravatar Not to keep piling on the ATL, but they could not, or would not, support an nhl franchise in the past and the Flames moved the Calgary after just a few seasons.

Hmm. A team leaving an American city for a Canadian one? Is it a coincidence that those were peak times for the nhl? Probably not.

Down goes Miami! Dominated the OT, but all it took was a back hand shot shot off a rebound to end it.


Gravatar Johnny-

You definately made yourselves legit for booing Bettman. But then again, Atlanta has had like 2 or at least one other franchise other than the Thrashers that was unseccessful right?


Gravatar Should have some knowlegable fans there (ATL), is what I mean.

The best goalie in the CCHA just let in 4 goals? Anastos or whoever chooses who gets the awards needs to get glasses. Maybe it's the refs that pick the winners, they are blind.


Gravatar The Flames moved from Atlanta to Calgary in 1980, but it wasn't due to lack of fan support. From what I remember (I was only 12 when this happened) the owner of the team made his money in real estate and the economy was doing poorly. The city was trying to force an unfavorable deal to renew his lease with the arena (the Omni, since destroyed) and he felt squeezed badly enough to sell the team to a guy who moved 'em to Canada.

Pisser about the Red Hawks...that is what happens when you can't handle business in regulation. I was wondering if the next goal scored today would be in that game or the Wisct-NoDak game (still scoreless itself with a couple of minutes left in the first).


Gravatar So wthe Miami-BC game was going nicely until someone jinxed...you are absolutely killing this BU fan, people...you're killing me.

Think about how much you guys hate Sparty for hockey...I hate BC at least that much...now think about how many times they've been in the Frozen Four since I started at BU (00-01)...

NCAA Hockey Tourney is turning into a yearly hell for me. Fuck those maroon and gold bastards.


Gravatar I feel your pain, Boston Nick.

What's up with BU, anyway? They were THE textbook definition of the term "hockey factory" for...well, ever, really. These days they're doing well to win the Beanpot.

What in the name of Mike Eruzione is going on there?


Gravatar Wiscy 1, NoDak 0.

7 minutes left in the 2nd period.

I'm not even surprised at this point.


Gravatar @Chris B.

To answer your question from about 230 in the morning - I don't live on the west coast, I'm just a night owl.


Gravatar Fucking Badgers. They don't even belong in the damn tournament. I'm really beginning to develop an extreme hatred for them.


Gravatar However... putting them in the Frozen Four takes out a good Miami team... I'd rather play Wisky than try to beat Miami for a third time...


Gravatar "Rodriguez took over the Wolverines in December for longtime Michigan man Lloyd Carr."

UGH now even espn is hawking that Michigan man line.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory? id=3320444


Gravatar Wiscy 2-0 after 2.


Gravatar This was over at MVictors. It was taken from an interview with Larry Lage the Michigan AP writer. I don't know how reliable is, so feel free to be critical.

* Lage went on a limb and predicted that Michigan’s quarterback this season will be Carlos Brown; Morris suggested it would be “a freshman” and made reference to that recruit from Florida (Justin Feagin).

Morris is radio host Jamie Morris.


Gravatar Wiscy was a 4 seed, right?


Gravatar Oh yah. They're the 17 seed... in a 16 team tournament.


Gravatar Wiscy is the #3 seed. NoDak #1.


Gravatar NoDak just scored. 2-1 with 16:27 left in the 3rd.


Gravatar 3rd seed in their group (Princeton was 4th) I meant. I know they don't belong, but apparently they've decided to play it out anyway.


Gravatar The flood gates have opened. The Sioux just scored again in less than a minute. Tied at 2.


Gravatar Unbelievable.

Can't anyone here play this game?[/Casey Stengel]


Gravatar What I don't understand is how Wiscy, with a sub 500 record, can be a 3rd seed & end up playing on their home ice. Total bullsit IMO.


Gravatar ah bullshit that is.


Gravatar It is a mystery. One of the role players (Andy Brandt) from their national championship team is an alternate captain on the ECHL team that plays here...I'll need to give him a hard time about this, one way or the other.


Gravatar Wiscy in this tournament definitely does not lack top-end bullshitness.


Gravatar Wiscy in this tournament definitely does not lack top-end bullshitness.
macdaddy | 03.30.08 - 9:23 pm | #

Yeah, but darn it if I'm not rooting for them. Any Frozen Four without Fucking North Dakota is a good Frozen Four for us.


Gravatar True story.


Gravatar @Bursley

Yeah, I think I gotta agree with you. As bullshitty as it may be that the Badgers are around, they do suck so it would be tastier to play them than NoDak in the FF.


Gravatar NoDak to the big dance. They scare me. Fast, physical & great goaltending. That being said...If UM plays UM I hope we stomp that ass. GO BLUE!!!!


Gravatar Michigan's really been the only #1 seed to play like a #1 seed so far. I'm anxious, but these guys are up to the task. I wish they were finishing it this coming weekend, but basketball needs the stage all to itself, apparently.


Gravatar At this point, it usually comes down to hot goaltending. If Sauer plays the way he last night, UM should win this thing. Let's keep our fingers crossed Johnny!


Gravatar Yes, indeed.

Guys, I've had it...been up since before 5 AM today to give my wife a lift to the airport. I'm completely gassed. Hopefully Brian will have a goldmine of Frozen Four coverage and additional RECRUITIN' news tomorrow. I'm done for now. 'Night, all.


Gravatar I would like to see the FF played sooner, but the layoff might take away some of the momentum that ND has been riding. They have been playing well in the tourney, but hopefully 12 days to think about things will put a lot of pressure on them.

Should be a fun FF though.


Gravatar So i watched Wreslemania tonight on Sopcast. Now I know why I don't watch wrestling. Holy friggin boredom.


Gravatar I try not to pile on ND. I don't want to act like a lot of internet ND fans do nor do I want to get in a pissing match with them. With that said...the second video on ESPN CFB page is on ND starting spring practice. The third video is of Beano Cook talking about ND. Yeah, no other 3-9 team would get that coverage, but God, Beano is an idiot. He is a little funny when he tells Charlie to be nice to people, but why is he still on TV. He's like my drunken uncle that is amusing for 45 seconds, then he's just monotonous.


Gravatar The freep has a new gallery of photos from practice.

http://www.freep.com/apps/ pbcs.d...Params=Itemnr=3

Grady looks to be in great shape.

Anyone know the deal with George Morales? I'm assuming he'll be part of the class now that there is no need to greyshirt him.


Gravatar I think grady could come on strong this year. He doesn't look as round as I remember him.


Gravatar I think the players are the only people who can truly understand the outdated methods of Gittelson. If Grady, Savoy, and a bunch of former under achievers, all of a sudden become stars; I think we know who fault that is. But remember, we are getting better while losing family values, so at least we've got that going for us.


Gravatar And no doubt our lack of family values might turn off big name recruits like Teric Jones.......er.....nevermind.


Gravatar Wasn't Grady some kind of workout warrior in HS? Or am I confusing him with someone else?


Gravatar What's with Cone holding up a serving tray while throwing the ball?

Is that him practicing holding the clipboard for next year?


Gravatar Wow, Grady looks like a f'in tank.

And I thought he was #3?


Gravatar just waiting to torture someone

http://cmsimg.freep.com/apps/pbc...r=0& Quality=100


Gravatar Holy crap, Grady really bulked up.


Gravatar go cubs.


Gravatar still wearing the nike gear...hmm...


Gravatar Ooh. Spring practice pictures make me tingle!

Any bets on whether Sheridan or Threet get the starting job?


Gravatar That picture of cone throwing looks hilarious. Where is his clipboard?

ah there's two of them! it looks like he's trying to shot put right after he throws.


Gravatar Coner getting some media love. He is in almost a third of those pictures


Gravatar A tray fits perfectly on his hand just waiting for water to be served to the rest of the team.


Gravatar Just kidding Conezy, I love ya.


Gravatar I'm really surprised about the reports that RR was disappointed with the defense, that it gave up too many big plays. They have all that experience and talent. Please tell me that RR is just trying to psyche out next year's opponents by getting them to think that our offense is good enough to put up plays against this defense. It's probably a first practice thing, but I am still surprised.


Gravatar Any bets on Jim Potempa becoming the most beloved player in Michigan history? His picture in that freep gallery is hilarious.

Like zoinks, Shaggy is playing RB for Michigan.

(It was either or Balding Jesus with a Receding hairline...you decide)


Gravatar hahahaha..i was thinking how did this homeless guy get a michigan uniform


Gravatar godamn monday bullshit.

i just made the decision to go to san diego state over NYU, Villanova, and simonf fraser university for grad school. mistake? hahahah. pumped about moving to the west coast, not pumped about waking up at 9 to see michigan games this fall!


Gravatar I thought stonum was going to wear #1 and cone looks like a ...uh...goofball. Threet's photo isn't all that impressive either. He looks like he lacks top end savoriness


Gravatar BGH,

Simple solution to your problem. All night benders on the nights before games which may or may not include trips to TJ.


Gravatar lol, i don't know how much i'll be venturing into the paradise known as TJ. unless i realy really really really need to get laid. HAHA.


Gravatar @Tim Wayman,

Perhaps we are still having those mobile quarterback problems? Is that why Sheridan is being talked up a bit?


Gravatar Tiajuana lacks top-end health standards. Or even mid-level. Or acceptable.


Gravatar haloscan sucks.


Gravatar I was reading soemthing about TJ. It is recommeded that you only bring: enough cash to do what you set out to do, plus $40 in your shoe to pay off cops that randomly arrest you, and your ID. If you take ATM cards over there, they'll make you go to the ATM and withdrawl gross sums of money to pay off the cops. LOL.


Gravatar In his presser, Rodriguez had a decent amount of praise for both Threet and Sheridan. He said Threet was picking the offense up as fast as any player he's had, and has great arm-strength. He said that Sheridan showed really good mobility and decision-making. He said that he didn't have a #1 yet, but did go out of his way to say that Cone was probably 3rd right now.


Gravatar Didn't Threet have the flu at this weeks practice?


Gravatar RR on Threet:

"On redshirt freshman Steve Threet wearing the green jersey today: "He's a little sick but he did everything. He might as well have been in a white jersey because he took a lot of reps. The quarterbacks are live – that teaches them to get rid of the ball quicker.""

On the quarterback competition: "It's wide open. [Redshirt sophomore] Nick Sheridan had a couple good days and Steve has had a couple of good days recently. [Redshirt sophomore] David Cone has done some good things. Right now Nick and Steve are ahead of David. That's about all we're saying with that."


Gravatar yes, he's wearing the green jersey.


Gravatar big gay heart,

Sadly, that is not a joke. That place is so corrupt. I know someone who was arrested in TJ and had to spend the day in jail. The dude I know is shady in his own right, but I can imagine what happened to him happening to any American there. If you see the movie Traffic, you'll hate Mexico even more.

Question: (Is there firewood on the island?) Where does the phrase "lacks top-end savoriness" come from? I imagine that it comes from something Chingrish, but what exactly? Finding out would be utmostly dusky for me.

Which reminds me, Ninja: you have to find me that link to that ticket vendor website with the poor English!


Gravatar Question: Where does the phrase "lacks top-end savoriness" come from? I imagine that it comes from something Chingrish, but what exactly?
Tim Wayman | 03.31.08 - 11:14 am | #

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i think all that started from the video of mcguffie getting chased by a lineman..certain people said he lacked top end speed


Gravatar baseballllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll


Gravatar baseball? as in michigan swept iowa to open the big10 season? as in awesome?


Gravatar Looking at those FREEP photos. The Coner really needs to work on his guns. Barwis is going to kick sand in his face.


Gravatar Yep, some bright fella came running around critiquing McGuffie based on a clip of somebody(presumably a LB) chasing McGuffie down from behind. He typed as if he was very worried about McGuffie's speed and concluded this is a very bad omen and he lacks topend speed.

Sam McGuffie. Lacks topend speed. He wasn't joking.

And I could be wrong, but I think chitown came through with the top-end savoriness part in reference to pizza as an analogy for all the idiocy that ran wild that day.


Gravatar Potemka is just a façade for the real running game.


Gravatar What year is Potemka? Who is this guy?


Gravatar Yes, people were saying that Sam McGuffie may have great 40-speed, but it didn't translate to field. So I said something to the effect of "Let's be honest, pizza is great and all, but once you take it out of the box, it lacks top-end savoriness".


Gravatar And then we got into some crap about Sausage not being a team player.


Gravatar And then we got into some crap about Sausage not being a team player.
chitownblue 00

This is what happens when there is no new football news to discuss


Gravatar Potempa is the next run away beer truck.


Gravatar Potemka is the heir apparent to J Leman as the Big Ten's lone red-blooded American hero. Don't fucking question what year he is.

(for the record, he is undoubtedly just a fratboy walkon. There was another uber-white RB in those pics. Forgot the name, though)


Gravatar Potempa* damn it.


Gravatar POTEMPA. i remember he had a pretty good run last year.


Gravatar POTEMPA. i remember he had a pretty good run last year.

...to Sgt. Pepper's. He was awesome on keg duty.


Gravatar I don't know if any of you ever read the Michigan football meesage board on Mlive, but, there is a poster with the username "eyespy123456" who claims that there are more defections on the way. He says that the players are basically verbally abused constantly by not only RR, but, the entire coaching staff(except Fred Jackson). Apparently, there is some worry over what is going on and how things are being done now in Ann Arbor. This "eyespy" is a relative of Lloyd Carr, I believe and has been right about alot of things that he has said. It will be interesting to see who the other defections will be.


Gravatar Huss,

The absurdness about the McGuffie speed thing was because Sam didn't break away from the defender and the guy appeared to gain on him. I think it was like a 50 yd+ TD run and the LB was gaining on him. He didn't actually catch him. That's why I went off on the asshole that made that claim.


Gravatar Potempa is going to have a copy of Jeremy Shockey's American flag tattoo by the end of the summer. Mark my words.


Gravatar Also, to answer a previous post.

Grady was #24 the year he got hurt. He switched after his freshman year when he was #3.

I think the D is really going to struggle in spring and maybe the first game or two. The reason being that Shafer is "coaching" a lot more than English. My opinion is undecided on English because defense is hard to study unless you have film. But, I get the feeling Shafer is forcing these guys to really read and react and make play and he is teaching them that. That may take awhile to figure out. You may see some take longer than others too.


Gravatar Keegan,

Indeed. And if I recall, McGuffie had to round a corner on that run. We can give the other kid some credit and assume he took a very good angle in pursuit - giving the illusion that he's so close. Besides, McGuffie carries the ball like 30 times a game - you lag a little bit sometimes.


Gravatar I'm proud to say that if you google "top-end savoriness" that comment thread is the #2 hit.


Gravatar I had a teammate with blazing speed and he told me this once.

"when I break free, I just run fast enough to not get caught."

I would imagine McGuff does the same. OMG, He might have throttled down to save energy.

NO F'ING WAY!!!! Now he's not willing to finish plays. He's lazy.


Gravatar chitown,

What was #1


Gravatar Jay,

I'm honestly not giving any of that any credence. And if it IS true...good riddance. Looks like they're content with the fact that they are physically and mentally inferior to West Virginia players. Again - mentally inferior. To West Virginia.

How coddled were these guys? I understand getting upset about asshole coaches...but dude, it is no different at Florida or Ohio State. And they've been helluva lot more successful than us lately. They're not working or berating you into the ground because they want to appear above you - they want to build you up above them. Playing football in college is no different than being a regular student at the university - you're both being prepared to succeed in an unforgiving world.

In short: STFU and beat OSU.


Gravatar HUSS = BIFF


Gravatar chitown,

And I'm proud to say that the first search result has me as the first word in it. W00T!


Gravatar Yeah - #1 is another thread where the phrase was referenced. But the original thread is #2.


Gravatar google Top End Savoriness without the hyphen and the first hit is roasted buckeyes.


Gravatar i love all these secret sources in practice that are constantly saying how bad everything is going.


Gravatar of COURSE, Buckeyes fail to be grammatically correct.


Gravatar Huss,

I want to agree with you, but, this guy does know what he is talking about. I guess it comes down to what constitutes tough love and motivation versus out and out verbal abuse of players. There is a balance and if the coaches go overboard, they risk losing the team before they even play a game. Its easy to just brush Boren off as a coddled little pussy, but, it becomes much tougher to brush this off if there are multiple defections after the spring practices are over. We'll have to wait and see.


Gravatar I find myself rather unsettled by this new culture of fascism that has emerged within the Michigan football program. I'm leaving because of the erosion of free, democratic values.


Gravatar Top-end savoriness: An epic drama

I noticed that guy almost run down McGuffie too. Worries me a little about his on the field speed but I'm sure he'll be fine.
Jim | 02.15.08 - 3:20 pm | #


I actually agree with everyone beginning to question McG's speed. His highlight reel is amazing but we've heard all year how he never plays good competition. His first playoff game and a d-lineman almost runs him down?? And then his team loses the next game?? I don't know, it might not be that big of a deal but I can understand the doubt that the video just posted raises.
FState | 02.15.08 - 3:36 pm | #

Gotcha, I agree. His on the field speed is what is a concern. His "on the track" speed is just fine.
Arbor | 02.15.08 - 3:41 pm | #

From what I understand, that is what has been the question with McGuffie all year amongst the recruiting sites. Everyone knows he can run a fast 40 but the analysts think his top end speed is fairly low for a running back. Maybe our new strength and conditioning coach can help with that?
Blue | 02.15.08 - 3:43 pm | #


The on the field speed comments actually hold some water Keegan. Watch the defenders in all of his highlight videos. None of them look like real athletes. It's easy to look fast when you play the competition that Sam supposedly has played.
MaizeNBlue | 02.15.08 - 3:47 pm | #

chitownblue 00,
I don't think anyone is saying he won't be good ya dumby. Just that it doesn't look like he has good top end speed.
IndyUM | 02.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #

*head explodes*


Gravatar Huss,

About Jay's comment and your response. I don't want to know how coddled the old teams were. i think UM players, coaches and fans have been so sheltered and misguided the last ten years. I think UM has been lost from the rest of CFB. It starting to scare me how bad the UM program had been under Carr. I understand people worrying about RR and if what he is doing is right. But when do we question Lloyd and if what he was doing was wrong?


Gravatar I think it's possible for there to be grey area.

In other words, Boren may not be a coddled pussy.

AND RR may not be verbally raping kids at practice.

Actually, most likely, Boren isn't a pussy, and RR isn't one of the Vietnamese Interrogators from The Deer Hunter.

The most likely explanation is that Boren's personality and that of the coaching staff didn't mesh. That doesn't mean Boren is a pussy, and it doesn't mean that the staff is assaulting it's players.


Gravatar Huss,

The blood from the kitten I just killed is on your hands. That little montage just sent me through the roof.


Gravatar re: the picnic table story, sick and funny. BUT, what was the neighbor doing videotaping him on FOUR SEPARATE OCCASIONS??? Gross...


Gravatar Keegan, it boggles the mind - and I really don't have the mental fortitude to withstand a barrage of "THE TEAM THE TEAM THE TEAM" and "This is how a good Bo does it!" from the tea-sipping whisper fans. There was a major problem with the direction of the program, and I have a full confidence that RR will fix it. He can't do much worse than Carr with the top 10 talent he'll amass here.


Gravatar Huss - I think people also claimed that McGuffie's 5A Texas competition was "shitty".


Gravatar I usually dismiss posts on mlive as crap. Remember that guy Bo who posted last week about verbal abuse? There was a similar post on freep or mlive. This guy said that he lived in Detroit and heard rumors, and then an UOS fan dismissed his post b/c it was based on just rumors. Interestingly, the UOS fan seemed excited about new life being breathed into the rivalry.

Take from it what you will. Sounds to me like hearsay based on opinion.


Gravatar and for all those Bo-praisers out there, Schembechler cussed and berated more than any living person on the planet except perhaps his mentor, Woody Hayes. Contrary to published bullshit, Bo did not pat anyone on the back. Ever. That would've been soft and unmanly.

Boren didn't leave because of that, though, and he didn't leave because of the S&C rigors.

Boren left because his little brother Zach went from getting an undeserved schollie gifted to him from King Cronie Carr to getting a "No, thanks" from RichRod. This pissed off Daddy, who has said repeatedly that his boys will NOT play football at different schools. SO he took his Justin and went home. Mommy and Daddy then scripted the "erosion of Family Values" bullshit on behalf of Justin. Because, you know, undeserved cronyism is an Michigan Man entitlement, right?
NOT ANY MORE, MFers!


Gravatar chitown, that's in one of the above comments - probably the most infuriating of all the criticism. It's like bashing Kobe for playing in the Western Conference or something. WTF


Gravatar its fun to imagine RR jumping all over kids during practice then ending the verbal beating by singing happy birthday and handing out b-day cards like was reported in that article.


Gravatar bo lacked top end friendliness


Gravatar Exactly, caup.

But he's also a pussy. And really, I don't think OSU has any room for anything less than top 100 players on that roster anymore - so enjoy Cincy or Akron, Boren Boyz.


Gravatar Then, Huss and Keegan, came the jokes:

OK. So: Pizza. I think Pizza sucks. It lacks top-end savoriness.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 4:02 pm | #


On your plate, I mean. In the box, Pizza is wicked savory. It doesn't translate to the plate.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 4:03 pm | #

chitown: The real question about pizza is the chemistry between the cheese and the sauce. What if they don't hang out and listen to the same music as the pepperoni? How will they co-exist then? The pizza might just combust if they don't all like "The Godfather" better than "Goodfellas".
dex | Homepage | 02.15.08 - 4:04 pm | #

In summation, Pepperoni is me-first. You don't want guys like that on your pizza.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 4:06 pm | #

The pizza will be 15x better reheated once Barwis gets a hold of it.
MRG | Homepage | 02.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #

Onion never gets enough credit on the pizza. Sure, it might taste like shit, but it works hard to dig under the cheese and become impossible to remove. You can't teach grit and hustle like that, it's just natural.
dex | Homepage | 02.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #

chitown,

You are a fucking idiot!!! You see one clip of pepperoni and all of a sudden he's a "me first" kid. You don't know anything about him, you're just some troll-ass with no clue, go away.
Keegan | 02.15.08 - 4:08 pm | #

INSIDER TOLD ME
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GREEN PEPPERS WILL BE COMMITTING TO PIZZA
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YES
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NEXT THURSDAY
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YES
THE KNOWLEDGE | 02.15.08 - 4:39 pm | #


Gravatar Huss,

I think UM was like the CIA as far as what we know about what was going on inside. I doubt we actually know the extent of the deterioration of toughness. What's funny to me are all of the accusations about RR being a crook. Yet, didn't Lloyd let AA and Butler back on the team after fairly serious transgressions. I am using fairly serious as the term that UM fans would use to describe them if OSU player did the same thing.


Gravatar Quit saying mean things about us. My daddy doesn't like that!!!


Gravatar Keegan,

Believe me, I question what in the hell was going on under Lloyd as well. Actually, I will be up front with you and tell you that I don't think he was a very good coach, the last few years especially, as it seems now like he had at least partly checked out the last couple of seasons. However, that doesn't preclude me from questioning RR and his coaching staff's tactics. Again, we'll just have to take a wait and see approach, I guess.

Blue,

Call me crazy, but, I don't think McGuffie will ever live up to the youtube hype that was created with him. Michael Shaw was the steal of this last recruiting class and I believe he will be significantly better than McGuffie, imho.


Gravatar HHHMMMM - PIZZA


Gravatar I actually still like Lloyd. I'll admit the game passed him by a bit in the past couple years, but it's hard to argue with his results. And honestly, I don't buy the "he failed with his talent level" arguments - with the exception of 2005 and the Appalaichan St. game, the team, I think, played to it's ability.


Gravatar i yes number one pizza worldwide in pakistan!


Gravatar Jay,

I agree with you on both parts of that. I really worry about all the hype around McGuff. I worried more however, when Lloyd was coach because of their inability to use skill players to the fullest. I think he will be a lot better under RR. How good? Who knows.


Gravatar caup'91, thanks for saving me the work of putting the explanation for Boren out there again. Considering that Mike Boren himself admits to almost being booted by the sheriff for his berating of Justin (and god knows who else) at HS games, their complaining about family values is ludicrous.


Gravatar God that thread was classic. That KNOWLEDGE post sent me to the floor rolling.

And Jay, re: McGuffie - it's a testament to the direction of this program that the McGuffie hype is now taking a backseat to a plethora of other notable guys RR recruit. Terrence Robinson and Michael Shaw both grade out higher on recruiting services.

And let's be honest, if the old regime was still here, McGuffie would have either flamed out and left(like another burner, Mr. Justin Fargas) or just suffer from David Underwood syndrome and toil for 4 years. Hooray for the spread.


Gravatar Huss - I like to think that McGuffie would have become the white Kelly Baraka.


Gravatar chitown,

I liked Lloyd too. And I loved no matter how much shit I took for loses, I never had to be embarrassed about a scandal. But I don't think he did as well with all of his talent. I think Gittelson plays a role in that and I think the # of players who were big time recruits and weren't producing was scary. And the lack of depth, especially in the skill positions, was a sign that talent wasn't being developed. Plus, you never saw a middling recruit becoome a star.* That is my argument about the talent vs. results thing.

*Hart doesn't count. He is God.


Gravatar Fargas left because he got hurt, lost a lot of playing time, and didnt want to earn it back.


Gravatar Keegan,

The only other player that comes to mind who became a star out of the blue would be David Harris.


Gravatar McGuffie wont live up to the youtube hype, but i think it would be almost impossible for anyone to re-create that success in college. I do think he'll be a solid contributor, he's fast as hell and he's built like a machine. I just dont see how he'd be a complete failure.


Gravatar also, that miami loss yesterday is killing me. fuck boston college and the fact they get to play home games every year. ncaa hockey tourney is a joke.


Gravatar They told us "No Pizza."

We follow the Pizza.


Gravatar Fargas also left because the coaching staff wanted to move him to DB, which he would've excelled at as well.


Gravatar Braylon Edwards, Mike Hart, David Harris, Alan Branch, Larry Foote were all, off the top of my head, 3-star (or lower) recruits who were "stars".

I always point to it, but SMQ did a study that took a programs aggregate recruiting rankings and compared it to their winning % over a 10 year span. For the most part, they strongly correlated. Michigan, over that time, had the 10th best recruiting and the 11th best record.


Gravatar Hey Justin, they have awesome pizza in Akron. Lets play there. Besides, RR yells at me all the time and makes me run.


Gravatar South,

There is a question as to whether his track speed actually translates on the field running away from defenders in college.


Gravatar I agree with chitown, Carr had his faults, but he was a pretty solid coach except for his woeful preparation of the team before the 2007 season. That cost him his job and put an end to the Bo Era. But in fairness to the guy HE WANTED TO QUIT but Sailboat Bill and Mary Sue begged him to come back for one more year. The rest is history. And remember, it is a GOOD THING that this all happened. The only down side is we have to hear about Appalachian State for a while before RR's reign removes that stench like The Cat in the Wizard Hat.


Gravatar Chitown,

I read the SMQ article and yeah, they were 11. Here's my problem with that. That means we were consistently 9-3. With that talent there should be more 11-1 12-0 records in there. Especially in a weak B10.

Jay,

I forgot about Harris. I meant to say that you never saw skill players come out of no where to contribute. Defense is where you will see a lot kids emerge because you really just need to be tough and a "natural football player" whatever that encompasses.


Gravatar Boren left because his little brother Zach went from getting an undeserved schollie gifted to him from King Cronie Carr to getting a "No, thanks" from RichRod. This pissed off Daddy, who has said repeatedly that his boys will NOT play football at different schools.

This was the Boren Ultimatum.

(How long can we stretch this joke? Don't know, but the Bass joke is going on a couple months now.)


Gravatar Chitown,

Do you really consider a 3 star (such as Braylon and Alan Branch) a surprise if they become special? Its more of a grey area, I guess. David Harris definitely belongs on that list as he was only a 1 star if I remember correctly.


Gravatar Have you been to Akron?

I'm thinking Northern Illinois would be a good fit. Up and rising programs. Really close to Chicago style pizza, which mostly contributes to my holding penalties/blocking skills.


Gravatar LOL. oh man, MRG, why didn't I think of that??


Gravatar Does anyone have any vagisil?


Gravatar South,

There is a question as to whether his track speed actually translates on the field running away from defenders in college.
Jay | 03.31.08 - 12:37 pm | #

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thats understandable, but if you look at what he did in high school and imagine how that could be improved upon by a good S&C program and coaching, i think he'll do just fine as long as people have realistic expectations


Gravatar 3* recruits are like chicks you think are hot when you're drunk. You never know until the morning so you take a flyer on them.


Gravatar Look at his records - where did he underperform?

Aside from Appy St., I reject the idea that this year's team underperformed. Our defense was awful, and Oregon would have killed us anyway. We lost to OSU and Wiscy with no QB and no HB due to injury.

2006, they were good, no complaints.

2005 is the only legit complaint about Carr I can imagine. They were bad, and there was no excuse.

Before that, 9-3 with true freshmen QB and HB. Conesecutive 10-3 seasons. Then 8-4 during the evil-Navarre year. How is that disappointing?


Gravatar We like ugly chicks and pizza. AKRON....WOOO WOOOO


Gravatar Jay, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Harris, Braylon, Branch, and Hart were 3-stars. So Michigan did have it's share of "sleepers" if you want to cal them that. But the two point are not mutually exclusive. I think Gittleson STILL didn't maximize those guys' physical performance.

And that is scary.


Gravatar But Keegan - if you're going to say that a 3* recruit becoming special isn't a "surprise", then Michigan will have virtually NO surprises, because how many kids sub-3* do we get? Like 2 a class?


Gravatar I mean, with a Barwissed Branch, Morelli might be dead.


Gravatar My little brother is a 3*.


Gravatar Maybe this is unfair and all accept that if you think it. I think the disappointment comes from the lack-luster wins over poor teams. The struggles to beat Tressel. '06 was a joke of a schedule and then they lose the two games that matter most. I understand '04 and the freshman thing but '05 was a disaster, '06 was a breeze until the games really got tough, and '07 was embarassing. That's three years of meh football. Maybe it was the lack of exciting football. Maybe it was the high preseason rankings. I just always thought going into a year that they would be better than they turned out.


Gravatar Quarter to one and still no updates? I need my fix!! Mgoblog is the dragon I chase.


Gravatar I didn't say that. Someone else did. I expect 3* to be contributors.


Gravatar HOLY FUCK.

Jay, HOW the fuck does "track" speed not translate? I have never understood this. Do the lines on the field confuse him and slow him down? You know they're not speed bumps, right?

It's not like it's a handicap race where his pads weigh more than everyone else's.

I played lacrosse at a high level for years - and the kids that were faster than me in sprints were faster than me on the field. It's not like wearing a helmet changed the dynamic - ever.


Gravatar My favorite part of that thread was that I was having a trolling meltdown in re: to McGuffie comments and then chitown started to speak my rage:

SAM MCGUFFIE IS AN OVER-RATED SELFISH CRACKER MICHAEL SHAW IS THE TRUTH. DID YOU SEE HOW MCGUFFIE STALLED HIS DECISION? WE DON'T NEED HIS ME-FIRST, SLOW-ASS AT MICHIGAN.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:42 pm | #

One play and one game should not determine how good a kid is. Relax.
Keegan | 02.15.08 - 3:40 pm | #

I disagree. Everyone should freak the fuck out NOW.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:44 pm | #

Sometimes the collective commenters here remind me of the Springfield citizens in the Simpsons when Mayor Quimby yells:

"I'm sick of you people, you're a bunch of fickle mush-heads!"

And the people reply:

"Give us hell, Quimby!"

One, tiny, thing in one freaking clip and we're talking about McGuffie being slow. Holy. Shit.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:49 pm | #

Because Mike Hart had the best fucking top-end-speed ever. Come on people, you're smarter than this.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:49 pm | #

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:51 pm | #

Because when you put a 4.3 40-runner on a field with stripes on it, he automatically slows down?
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:52 pm | #

IndyUM - then you're an idiot. Show me one clip where he actually gets caught from behind ever. You're talking about one play!

It's a crazy day when the absurd backlash of this place catches their white messiah.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:54 pm | #

The only way these people can get any more absurd is if they start talking about how ice cream is bad.
chitownblue 00 | 02.15.08 - 3:55 pm | #


Gravatar Hmmm,

I would consider the '99 season a dissappointment only because had Lloyd not caved to pressure from outside forces and named Tom Brady the starter from the beginning, Michigan probably would've been in the BCS title game. The '03 season was a complete failure, imho. You had everything set up for a national title run and god awful special teams did them in early on. When your special teams blow, (which wasn't uncommon under Lloyd) that falls squarely on the shoulders of the head coach. Also,not only did they lose to USC twice in the Rose Bowl, but, they got run off the field and thoroughly outcoached in the process.


Gravatar \fuck boston college and the fact they get to play home games every year.//

Uh, no. Fuck the Red Hawks for giving up three goals in just under two minutes.

No quality team does that, I don't care what the level of play is.

Michigan will manage. NoDak has BC in their heads, anyway.


Gravatar McGuffies best attributes are his agility and quickness. Track speed does not really require any quckness (start and stop quickness) yet football does. That's why the translation argument is pointless. Of course it will translate, because his best attributes are suited for football, not track.


Gravatar Jay, you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Alex Mitchell can. Little jet lagged today so, I'm just coasting on caup's work.

More to the point, I agree in general that 3 stars should be considered "sleepers." However, not all 3 stars are the same. Hart was the leading rusher in NY HS history, but there were questions about his size and competition. Despite that, I thought he was severly underrated by the services at the time. Not all time leading rusher in Michigan history underrated, but underrated nonetheless.

Also, underrated.


Gravatar DRAGON = PIZZA
SAM = FAST AS HELL WHITE BOY


Gravatar MRG,

He set the national HS record for rushing. Just to prove your point further.


Gravatar Even more perfect is Chitown posting his newest ranted directly above my synopsis of his previous ones.

Thank god you didn't cut-n-past an old one and pass it off as new.


Gravatar Yeah, that was serendipitous.


Gravatar Fellas,

This has been a great thread this morning. God, I wish we had more of these. Unfortunately I am off to work. I hope I don't actually have to work, but we'll see. If you don't hear back from me, pity me for I am actually doing stuff.


Gravatar Anyone hear where Pryor is going??? Akron?


Gravatar Good luck Keegan. I am leaving work after 5 hours of surfing the tubes.


Gravatar Chitown,

You ever heard of James Jett? Dude was the fastest fucking player in the NFL. He would've beaten ANYONE in a sprint off the field. The guy was ROUTINELY run down from behing on the football field and was a bust in the NFL. There is a differnce according to the experts (which neither of us are). I think one of the reasons people get all slappy over McGuffie is because the dude is a white running back which is something we don't see everyday.


Gravatar fuck boston college and the fact they get to play home games every year.//

Uh, no. Fuck the Red Hawks for giving up three goals in just under two minutes.

No quality team does that, I don't care what the level of play is.

Michigan will manage. NoDak has BC in their heads, anyway.
Johnny Sideburns | Homepage | 03.31.08 - 12:52 pm | #


Yeah, Miami is obviously not a quality hockey team. I mean, they beat Michigan once, played a great game the second time, took the runner up for the past two years (with one of the nations top players) to OT in a virtual home game in which the winning team was outplayed for damn near 60 mins. But yeah, you're right, not a quality team at all.


Gravatar Jay - I obviously don't have an ecyclopedic memory of James Jett's career, but I recall his main problem being an inability to catch. Also, yes, he was an Olympic sprinter.

And I'd agree that a decent amount of the McGuffie love comes from the color of his skin.

But, fast is fast, I think. I don't even see much video evidence of his speed being a concern, at all.


Gravatar Guys, let's face it: Did anyone ever expect anything special out of Lloyd? No upsets, not HUGE wins since the '00 Orange Bowl, and many more dissapointments than anything. He probably could not coach or inspire his talent to do anything beyond what was expected of them Someone said that earlier, and I would say that was the main problem.
Is anyone really supried that UM won 76% of the games under Lloyd when you consider the annual schedule?

Let's have Rodriguez run the chaffe off, get his guys in here sooner, exponentially increasing the learning curve, and win sooner.


Gravatar Fuck. Off. Jay. McGuffie consistently outruns defenders and you take one clip to make a case against his speed? The argument, the logic, and the proof are entirely without merit.

Just as using James Jett as an example is a fucking piss-poor effort. Do James and Sam share genes? Trainers? Background? You abso-fucking-lutely cannot compare two individuals to predict results. Your case sucks ass period.

Now, please, for the love of everything holy, stop.


Gravatar hey, lets let mcguffie play a couple times before we decide he sucks. jesus christ, where do some of you come from?


Gravatar I'm moving to Akron.


Gravatar I suck.


Gravatar Can't we all just get along??


Gravatar I come from Montana.

Montana=Slow white kid

Sam McGuffie=slow white kid

Sam McGuffie=Montana

Keegan=Sam McGuffie

Bet you bitches didn't know that did ya.

Now I'm leaving.


Gravatar @ Jay

James Jett was not routinely run down from behind. He averaged 17+ YPC during his career and was a great deep threat.

His problem was that he could not catch and did not have good WR moves.

If speed were the only criteria for being a WR, then there would be a flock of Olympians in the NFL. There aren't.


Gravatar @bgh,

Michigan fans have a lot of foresight. Don't you know that?


Gravatar I think the PSU road game in 2006 was HUGE and was a great win. Remember PSU beat OSU in that same venue earlier that year. So please don't have selective memory. That was a very tough game, and PSU beat an SEC team in their bowl game that year. Thatgame was also well-coached with a very smart game plan.
Not everything is black and white.
I will agree that Carr/Debord/Moeller/Gittleson caused some degree of underachievement over the last few years but how many more wins does that means over the last 4 or 5 years? Maybe a handful.


Gravatar We like bitches.....and pizza.


Gravatar You know how sometimes your girlfriend/wife may see a dress in a store, and she HAS to have it? Then you buy it, and she puts it on, and she thinks it sucks?

That dress is Sam McGuffie.


Gravatar Ummm,

I NEVER, I repeat, NEVER blasted McGuffie. Holy christ some of you people are complete nutbags. I say that Micheal Shaw will be better than McGuffie and now I'm somehow blasting him? I pointed out what some of the recruiting gurus have said of him and his speed, thats all. GJB, maybe you need to get Mcguffie's dick out of your mouth. Clearly, you have problems if you're this obsessed over a high school kid who hasn't played a down of college football. I guess I'll just go and "fuck off" now. I'm just glad you guys love Sam McGuffie so much.



Because it is normal.


And healthy.


Not weird and creepy.


At all.


Gravatar hey, lets let mcguffie play a couple times before we decide he sucks. jesus christ, where do some of you come from?
big gay heart | Homepage | 03.31.08 - 1:02 pm | #

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agreed..i see almost as much doubt about our team on here as you would see on an epsn/osu/wvu board


Gravatar God MI fans suck. McGuffie will rock in the spread and shred. Chill out.


Gravatar Caup they actually beat a 23rd(?) ranked FSU team, not an SEC team. But carry on.


Gravatar If someone says McGuffie 3 times in a row, I heard another YouTube clip get posted online.

Seriously.


Gravatar PIZZA
PIZZA
PIZZA


Gravatar No, they beat FSU in the Orange Bowl after the 2005 season. After the 2006 season they beat TN in the Outback.

But yeah, carry on. Pfft.


Gravatar I need an update. I feel so empty inside.


Gravatar Caup:

A "handful" of wins over the last four or five could have been huge. Bowl games, Ohio State games, Notre Dame games (prior to '06)