FIRST
Second. That's what I get for reading it first.
Star WR's should get #1.
Star Defensive players should get #2.
holy shit it's a jersey number you people are insane
Jake Long should have worn #1!
Give me #1
Rugy is now a Michigan football tradition. Next year is rugby in south africa. we should send only the strangest named recruits (shavodrick).
Tradition!
Another potential solution to this "problem" would be to just retire the #1 ... that way nobody could be offended by who it is given to in the future, plus the players that made it great would be honored.
I love Nate Robertson.
Why don't we just let every player decide what goes on the back of their jersey? Like the XFL did.
I think the reason Weis is so notable for being fat (besides the above-the-belt gut) is the haircut. You see someone with a high-and-tight buzzcut like that and you expect to see some crazy ripped Marine. Instead you get the irony of the least athletic coach in America with his military-style haircut. To hell with Michigan!
Mark Mangino begs to differ with your assertion that Fat Charlie is the least athletic coach in America.
no, Huggins, no, no.
I would take Mangino in a fight against Weis. For some reason, I think there is a lot of muscle beneath Mangino's flab. Maybe it's the aviators that make me think that.
I'm pretty sure Weis's midsection is made of tapioca pudding and pimple pus.
Jay's comment frequency increases 1000% when the Tigers are losing and drops to non-existent when they win.
just sayin'
@M Flightsci
Dusted off the copy of the cap one bowl about a week ago.. thanks again
To Hell with Charlie Weiss. That fat piece of shit couldn't coach his way out of the box of doughnuts he got stuck on his head while looking for "one a dem custard filled".
Dex,
That, and the fact that I've spent most of the last 5 days in bed with some sort of fucking virus that had my temp up to 103.6 degrees.
I mean this in all honesty - I have no respect for the obese. It's a real fuckin easy concept - more food in, more fat. If you are too dumb, lazy, or pathetic to stop eating so much, then fuck you. Really. I mean that.
Very cool to see Dhani Jones playing rugby, I have always been curious how good linebackers and running backs would be at the game. It looked like he was making some hard tackles in the game he played. I have to imagine if you trained a group of NFL linebackers and running backs how to play rugby for a year, they would come in and be very competitive. But who knows. It didn't look like he was totally and utterly outclassing them or anything.
The #1 shirt goes to a WR at the University of Michigan. Period. Having it be on defense is preposterous. This should be corrected before the season.
There are some people who are addicted to food. Some parents get their kids addicted to food. If parents feed their kids poorly from childhood and those habits continue into adolescence and adulthood, I feel bad for those people.
thank god bacon is a renewable resource
I feel bad for them until they are about 16 then it's time to quit making excuses. I can't walk into my office, blow down three lines of coke on the desk, and get away with it because "i'm addicted it's not my fault!" so fuck them too. Put down the twinkie once you understand it's making you fat.
If the #1 jersey belongs to a wide receiver, then the #77 should go to the best tackle and the #7 should go to the starting quarterback.
Schilling needs to change his number, and so does Threet.
man breasts are a gift from baby jesus
Damn I love that West Viginny fashion, thems some real purdy dresses, they must of just got back from that Sunday go to meetin thing. Three real Daisy Maes! Member Bob, that contract says no more drinkin or drugs and no sleepin in yer car passed out.
In the Dhani video, at the 0:45 mark. There is a #1 in the middle of the screen. Last time I checked, LBs played defense. Why is there a #1 on the field if WR only get #1?
Is it Terrell? Or some random DB that got #1 too??!
/doesn't really care who gets what number. As long as the team gets 13-0.
Can we give negative numbers to people in the coache's doghouse?
To Hell with Michigan?
What a fat, bloated, arrogant, pompous, fupa having sack of crap.
You think after a 3-9 season and two straight beat downs by M, the man would shut his mouth.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the man's arrogance has no bounds.
Sugar (including pasta/bread) is one of the most addictive, and one of the more dangerous, drugs out there. No joke. It is the cause of the diseases of civilization.
Now, everyone has their "sauce". I have a couple. But they balance out. Balance is the key; moderation. You listening Charlie, you fat pile?
Try eating eggs, lean meat, tons of vegetables and some fruit. You can eat that stuff all day and not get fat.
Unbelieveable arrogance.
http://mvictors.com/?p=256
God dammit I agree sugar is addictive but just because something is addictive doesn't give you a free pass to do it all you want. Charlie Weis is plenty old enough to recognize his food addiction and work to stop it. Instead, he staples his stomach and then blows it up because he can't quit shoving a dump truck of Hot and Ready's into his mouth every damn night.
Dana,
Are you equating Bo with C.W.?
How is that arrogant, Dana? You're grasping at straws trying to find a good argument.
3-9.
What is this tradition of "superstar WR wears #1" you are speaking of?
This is the first time I disagree with Brian's take, and this must mean that I'm wrong.
A ND fan from the last thread had this to say......
...Besides, if you guys are representative of the UM fanbase, then Charlie was right to say "to hell with you." There have been dozens of mean-spirited fat jokes in this thread alone, and hundreds on this site since he stepped into the spotlight. This is a guy whose weight problems almost cost him his life, and the UM fans here (who being frequent internet users and from the midwest are probably all fat themselves) are ripping him apart for it.
Anyway, I'll let you get back to your feigned indignity over a total non-issue, which is really a thinly veiled excuse to make crude fat jokes.
Sean | 05.07.08 - 3:17 pm | #
You know what, i can respect his dislike of us, and he can talk all the trash he wants, but there are two things I'd like to say: First, he went 3-9 last year and lost to NAVY. Maybe he should be worried about his own program before he bother talking smack.
Secondly, it wasn't "his health" that almost cost him his life, it was his inability to put down the goddamn fork. Try working out. Try eating right. If he'd been born with downs I can guarantee we wouldn't be making mean-spirited jokes, but when you're that obese you bring it on yourself. you know, perhaps if he was poor and struggled paycheck to paycheck and couldn't afford a personal trainer or healthy food I could excuse it, but the guy's a fucking multimillionaire who has a training staff at his beck and call. Get off your lazy, morbidly obese ass, start eating right, try working out a bit, and maybe you'd see a difference. "Oooohm poor Charlie, quit picking on him because he's fat." Fuck him. Fuck Touchdown Jesus. Put down the fucking fork or shut the fuck up.
One my linemen in NCAA 08 ended up with a single-digit jersey number. Totally freaked me the hell out every time I played. I had to eventually change it, just for my aesthetic sanity.
I have rippling muscles and lats the size of a pteranadon. I was raised in Farmington Hills. EAT SHIT!
Tim, exactly. Not arrogance.
3-9 me all you want, that's legit. Whining about Weis's comments about a rival is just weak sauce though. I do love watching it though... ya'll are so clever.
It's not whining.
It's just another excuse to poke fun at the fact that ND has been a statistical embarrassment recently, and that Charlie is super fat(and all ND fans are apparently sympathetic of this, hilariously enough).
In NCAA 08, one of my linemen requested the number 8. So I promised it to him.
I've also had a TE and a RB who requested #69 (and got it).
I'm not kidding.
What team finished last in the Big 10 last year? It was Notre Dame and they aren't even in the conference since their alumni have more power than the administration. Their admin voted to join the Big 10 several years agao and their alumni said they would stop writing checks if that occurred.
I agree with Bo that we should have dropped ND and picked up another team as a non-confrence rival.
As for Bob Huggins, after seeing that picture it's no wonder WVU put that alcohol clause in his new contract. He should be coaching at Arkansas hanging out with pork like that.
Wait, players request these sorts of things? Is this on the 360 version? I've never done that, and I've simulated over 300 seasons worth of dynasties at FIU, Temple, Florida Atlantic, SMU and Michigan!(among others)
I basically don't care what they think and hard pitch the hell out of em.
ARRGGHH - the first time Brian posts one of my emails and he does it to mock my spelling.
oh well, I deserve it.
@ Dana
I think there's a difference between Bo's comment and Weis's comment.
Bo was saying, "To hell with Notre Dame," as in, "I hate them and I don't give a damn."
Weis was basically calling Michigan pussies, saying Michigan would be making excuses about having a new regime and having personnel changes. Which is totally unfounded. Considering the fact that Michigan beat Notre Dame's best team in a while by a score of 47-21, he shouldn't be talking shit.
I think a vast majority of Michigan fans still believe that Notre Dame will lose to us once again in 2008, coaching change be damned.
M is one game Weis needs to win or else the ND alumni will BUFFET him out of town at the end of the year.
I'm far more weary of losing to Utah than losing to Notre Dame. I don't know about you guys...
Yeah, on my version of NCAA 08 (PlayStation 2), they can request playing time or specific numbers during recruiting. You can choose whether to make the promise or not. Supposedly, it will hurt your chances of getting a commitment if you don't make the promise, but I haven't had a problem when I've denied a promise of playing time. They still usually commit.
Huss- have faith my son.
\I don't see how 9 is a hockey number. 99 sure, but 9?
Baseball:
Ted Williams
Reggie Jackson
Enos Slaughter
Bill Mazeroski
Roger Maris
Hockey:
Johnny Bucyk
Clark Gillies
Gordie Howe
Bobby Hull
Lanny McDonald (shouldn't count its canadian)
Maurice Richard (shouldn't count its canadian)//
First, Reggie Jackson is in the HOF as a stinkin' Yankee, which means that he's probably more famous for wear #44 in the Bronx than #9 by the Bay.
Second, all of those players listed in both sports are extremely talented...but of all the baseball players only Ted Williams could really be considered an absolute all-time great...but in hockey you've got Marurice Richard, Gordie Howe, and Bobby Hull. Those guys are still the all-time standard for measuring greatness in that sport. Probably the only other sport that can monopolize a single number like that with across-the-board HOF legends is football with 12 at the QB position or 32 at RB.
Magnus,
To be honest, I think most people think Michigan will be favored when we play this year, and I won't disagree. ND is still a year away. Sad but true.
I just think Weis was trying to show a bunch of people a good time and fire them up a bit, not make a prediction. Your coach, as well as every other coach in the country, has made the same or similar comments about a rival.
All I know is, you guys would really be angry if you heard Weis's comments about Michigan in the locker room before the '05 game (his first). Much worse than these ones (hehe) and I loved it.
ND is still a year away.
A little known fact is that after graduation, every ND fan receives a special alumni keyboard with a clover key. All they have to do is hit it, and that sentence appears. Saves a lot of time.
7 Chad Langlais
9 Travis Turnbull
is it weird to see mediocre players wearing the great numbers of a program? sure, for a while. but then, it's like... who cares... someone has to wear the dang number.
i heard back in the mid 90s that they were considering retiring 21 for desmond. then Woodson won the Heisman, and i never heard about it again. i'd love to see the list of players who wore #1 starting w/ AC. it would look something like this:
AC
who?
who?
who?
who?
DA
Butterfield
DT (who was a prick by all accnts)
Bray.
we've had good players wear 2 and 56.... this is not much more than that. not a 30 year tradition.
What has Rodriguez said about other coaches? I'm not saying he hasn't. But I don't remember hearing anything.
Regardless, winners don't make excuses. So if Weis wasn't making a prediction that Michigan would lose, he wouldn't say that Michigan would use excuses.
On top of that, Rodriguez is a dick. I've said that since Michigan hired him. I think he's a good coach, but I'm not a fan of his personality. I won't defend it. But Weis is a pompous asshole. He keeps talking shit but he hasn't backed it up at all. Before he gets fired and booted out of Indiana, he should go visit Tony Dungy and learn some humility.
Greg McMurtry wore it somewhere in there, I think.
Maybe Floyd's #1 was just a practice jersey?? Seemed like they were still trying to get use out of the old Nike jerseys until the new adidas ones show up in July. Possibly that was the only one available??
Excuses are like a-holes.
Weis has a lot of a-holes.
Some listen to RichRod and perceive him as a "dick"...I see him as that sort of new wave badass taking over college ball in the form of guys like Carroll, Zook and yes...even Harbaugh. I love it.
The real point isn't "to hell with Michigan." Of course he said that. Michigan is very, very important to Notre Dame fans and of course he wants their fans to realize that Michigan is very, very important to him, too.
No, the real point is that he was making a thinly (fatly?) veiled prediction that Notre Dame would win, and then accusing Michigan of "making excuses" for that loss that hasn't happened yet.
I can imagine that the idea that you can't use a coaching change as an excuse for a bad season must have made sense to a group of Notre Dame fans. After all, Weis would of course never encourage the thought that the failings of the current team could be blamed on a previous coach, now would he?
Magnus, i think you're right about Mcmurtry. and
On top of that, Rodriguez is a dick..... I think he's a good coach, but I'm not a fan of his personality. I won't defend it.
my sister said the same thing about Bo.
Wait...wasn't Weis' statement about not recruiting "thugs and hoodlums" and that he would be winning now if he did, just one big excuse?
No that was just pandering to the racist culture of ND
i'd love to see the list of players who wore #1 starting w/ AC.
DanK | 05.07.08 - 3:53 pm | #
here you go:
AC (79-82)
McMurtry (86-89)
Alexander (90-93 - wore 40 as a frosh)
Butterfield (94-96)
Terrell (98-00)
Edwards (03-04 - after wearing 80 for two years)
not a bad list. and all WRs
Michigan uniform #1 history:
Angus Goetz, T (1919-20)
Robert Dunne, G (1921)
Paul Goebel, E (1922)
Harry Kipke, HB (1923)
Dave Whiteford, DB (1973-75)
Gregg Willner, K (1976-78)
Anthony Carter, WR (1979-82)
Greg McMurtry, WR (1986-89)
Derrick Alexander, WR (1990-93)
Tyrone Butterfield, WR (1994-96)
David Terrell, WR (1998-2000)
Braylon Edwards, WR (2003-04)
I dunno, he equated his on-the-field record with the fact that he didn't recruit "thugs and hoodlums." To me, that's an excuse, especially from someone who espoues "No Excuses"
On a lighter side, if Weis is Jabba, does that make Brady Quinn Princess Leia?
The history of the #1 jersey is clearly irrelevant in the big scheme of things within Michigan...
...but if Braylon is pouring all that money into the program with his scholarship and decreeing that the #1 wont go to a freshman or whatever...I don't know. I think I'd honor it.
Beat me to it, bsb. Thanks.
off topic:
it is so bad and so good at the same time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I...onordefend.com/
I'm in the "I don't care who wears #1" camp, but it is certainly impressive that 6 of the last 10 to wear the number have been all-americans (Goebel, Kipke, Carter, Alexander, Terrell, Edwards)
wah wah, mean michigan fans are making fat jokes about charlie weiss. waaaaaah.
my mom taught me that its never nice to make fun of people's personal chracteristics UNLESS said person is a spectactular asshole. and i'm sorry, but charlie weiss has all the hallmarks of being such.
Weis’ problem is he doesn’t just talk about winning or being good he insults the opponent. I didn’t care about Tressel’s “in 300 and some odd days” comment because coaches are supposed to think they will win. I’m fine with Weis saying ‘to hell with Michigan.’ What I don’t like is his assumption that Michigan will make excuses, after making it clear he doesn’t approve of excuses (while making excuses.) Like previously, when he insinuated Michigan was talking a bunch of shit but “ND would do there talking on the field” when he himself (and pretty much everyone) was yapping it up pretty good. Saying you’re going to win is fine. Predicting that your beaten opponent will act like a little bitch is not. Being brash and arrogant when you’re winning is one thing but Weis is getting his ass handed to him pretty good and his tough talk just keeps on trucking.
Dana, I would be very interested to hear what Weis said in the 05 locker room. I doubt I’ll be offended because that was a private ‘conversation.’ I am very interested in how coaches think and especially interested in what they think about Carr. I would be honestly shocked if Tressel and Carroll didn’t think they had some advantage over Carr.
The equivalent of Capt. FrontButt calling us out would be if Tom Izzo took the C-Bulls job, and then Beilein took a stab at MSU.
Fat is not a personal characteristic like hair color or some shit. It's a choice. And you can always make fun of people who make poor choices. Especially when they compound that choice over and over again and end up in a hospital, trying in vain to have their fat stomach fixed because they ate too many hot dogs.
I don't post here often during the off-season, but I feel compelled to respond to this:
"There have been dozens of mean-spirited fat jokes in this thread alone, and hundreds on this site since he stepped into the spotlight. This is a guy whose weight problems almost cost him his life, and the UM fans here (who being frequent internet users and from the midwest are probably all fat themselves) are ripping him apart for it."
His weight problems only "almost cost him his life" to the extent that Weis underwent voluntary, elective gastric bypass surgery. The health condition that precipitated that decision -- which in turn led to the complications that almost cost him his life -- can only be blamed on Weis himself. It's utterly disingenuous to claim that he is somehow blameless for his current obesity.
Stop it dex....
I heard he actually eats ssssuuuuper healthy, like soy milk and stuff. He can't help it okay?
Rumor has it, he actually had his first stomach cloned, and that's when his whole "mess" began.
Moreover, Dana, it's somehow wrong to comment on Weiss' porkbelly BUT it's ok for Weiss to generalize that other, more competitive teams recruit thugs.
To me, there's blanketed, socio-economic component to Weiss' attempt at criticism/excuse making. He has no proof that ND recruits a higher quality person than any other school.
The implication from your defense of Weiss is that its ok to make ignorant, uniformed comments on tangential and unfounded perceptions but its not ok to insult a man for his obvious and blatant lack of self-discipline.
my mom taught me that its never nice to make fun of people's personal chracteristics UNLESS said person is a spectactular asshole.
That is the best advice i have ever heard. It also explains the plethora of people who make fun of my personal characteristics.
Ninja: Well, at least youre spectactular at something.
Man drive to work was so easy today. I even got laid in the backseat of a goat delivery truck driven by fat cannibals.
Is anyone here Hindu? If not, I would like to spread the word and ask you heathens to join.
Is anyone here interested?
I am completely serious.
He has no proof that ND recruits a higher quality person than any other school.
This is the unfotunate assumption of every person who attends ND. We know this not to be true because if they went to ND they obviously didn't go to Michigan, and as we're clearly higher quality people their view must be wrong. It's simple logic.
Hindus are filthy rug-makers that worship cows.
We obviously need a standardized rubric to judge overall quality of person.
Listen you atheist miscreints ...please be open to my idea.
(2:39) I have thus explained to you the ultimate wisdom of Shankhya. Now hear the wisdom of Yoga, equipped with which, O Partha, you will break the shackles of karma.
This last passage appears variously translated in different texts. In fact, however, the version given by Paramhansa Yogananda is the most accurate. The word, "wisdom" which appears in the original, is conjoined with "Shankhya", and does not mean Gyana Yoga as some have it. Other translations refer to Karma Yoga, which doesn't even appear in the original text. What the Gita does speak of is that which "will loosen the bonds of karma". I have rendered the English translation more poetically by writing, "break the shackles of karma". The meaning is, of course, the same.
Paramhansa Yogananda discussed the three main philosophies of India: Shankhya, Yoga, and Vedanta. He explained that the wisdom taught in Shankhya underscores the need to escape from maya, or delusion. Yoga tells the sincere seeker how to make good his escape. And Vedanta (literally, "Summation," or "End," of the Vedas) describes the nature of Brahman.
dex,
you are a tainted cow raping fuck head.
dex,
you are a tainted cow raping fuck head.
Samir Khandakar | 05.07.08 - 4:29 pm | #
It's not rape if the cow enjoys it.
@BGH:
I'm also spectacularly quick in bed. This comes in handy when, well, uh, yeah- I'm pretty much trying to find a use for that.
I don't think Hindus can say fuck.
dex, not only iz ya mad stupid but ya iz also salad tosser wiff ninja footbal. yo' mom smells like socks an' ya should rot in cat hell. what the fuck sup now?
I've read the Bhagavad Gita. That's more Buddhist, though, right?
Daniel L.
you are one stupid little boy.
Daniel L.
you are one stupid little boy.
Henne for Heisman | 05.07.08 - 4:32 pm | #
There are worse things in life than being me, so I'll take it.
what? i don't like what was said about me.
anyways, here's an update on Marcus Hall and Bryce McNeal.
http://michigan.rivals.com/conte....asp?
CID=805349
I've long held the belief that you can't rape an animal. Animals don't have desires; instead, they have only needs. They need food and water and air. All workable definitions of rape explicitly reference the victim's will. However, recognizing that a cow/dog/et has no will, one cannot logically claim that animals can be raped.
Mangino would beat Weis ass! One kick to the hams (he has under his shirt) and Weis is on the ground looking for some comfort food, since he is heavily addicted to sugar!
Let's find a cure for sugar addiction! hummmm....I know it's called watch what you eat!
Anyone here rumors that Marty Morningweg is about to be hired by the Michigan Football Staff?
Freaking hilarious.
Also, I got laid off from work today...shit I don't even know where to begin..
MRG,
Sorry to hear that.
Hindus are vermin on the Earth. This world would be much better if we built an electric fence around India and only let them work tech support.
Mustket you have a 3 inch penis.
MRG | 05.07.08 - 2:36 pm | #
Fuck you dex, you wish you had penis, stupid vagina crack whore.
what? i don't like what was said about me.
anyways, here's an update on Marcus Hall and Bryce McNeal.
http://michigan.rivals.com/conte....asp? CID=805349
Ninja Football | 05.07.08 - 4:34 pm | #
What's the point of handlejacking me to put up real info? I'm totally confused.
did anyone make the barwis shirts yet?
your daughter is an ugly skank.
Huss | 05.06.08 - 2:36 pm | #
Wow Huss, I don't have a daughter...but way to be a prick.
The best part about the lonely guy on a handlejacking rampage right now is that we can post some really vile shit and blame it on being 'jacked.
That's not me. I would spell Mornhinweg correctly.
What kind of name is marlo?
WTF
haha
hahaha
keandre?
Keandre is obviously a chimp if ya know what I mean.
you ever head of "the wire"?
Yes dex, by chimp you are calling me a nigger. Can I please work your fields Mr dex...pretty please?
@marlo stansfield :
No Barwis shirts yet. Still waiting on the artwork as far as i know. If anyone has any ideas let me know and I'll put them up at beatosu.com, then donate the measly profit to Brian.
Btw, anyone notice the MGoStore link hasn't worked in a few weeks?
wtf
thanks for the info ninja.
For all you "He can't do anything about it"
1) The man is one (if not) the highest paid college coach in the country. He could hire a personal trainer or even have some of that ham sliced off by a doctor.
2) I am sure the Biggest Loser would love to have Charles on their show (ratings spike 200%, to see him with his shirt off). It's just a matter of him picking up the phone and making the call....
Damn fat fingers, can't dial the stupid number!
3) The man is a public figure, if he did not want people pointing and laughing at him, he probably would not say the things that does....such as "To Hell with Michigan", and telling all the ND boosters "That as long as I am coach, we will never lose to MSU again" (two years later)
marlo you must be stupid if you thought that was real content.
That was simply the handlejacker posting some lame website about rivals...michigan newstand or whatever.
come on marlo, get it straight.
Star Jones looks so ugly.
Someday we'll have registration....
No problem Marlo. As far as I'm concerned anyone who wants to contribute ideas is welcome, I already own the domain name, and we can either a) donate all to Brian or b) throw it in a pot for a tailgate.
All except for my "Easier than..." tees, that is- those are the reason i bought the domain in the first place.
I totally just nailed Diane Sawyer in the back of cat driven Dodge Caravan.
The handlejacking isn't even funny or well put together. It's just weird.
That was no smart man. For real Henne, you are a crazy punk kid. Why not come screw me huh?
which one? you lost me.
How about a Barwis made me cry T shirt?
Who weighs more? Fat Weis or the Cloverfield monster? Keep in mind Fat Weis survives on humans much like the Cloverfield monster.
quitters can always head down south...
@ Henne was Toonces driving?
Who says we can't be nice to Damers?
Here is a nice little recipe for Notre Dame cookies:
http://www.notredamesucks.org/nd...g/
ndcookies.png
Enjoy!
Waht are the chances of actually winning the director's cup this year. i know stanford always wins, but baseball and softball are looking solid...
I'm still thinking of doing the "Uncle Tressell's summer Camp for Fat Kids" shirt.
And the "Michigan State/ND/Florida: Easier to Beat than Appalachian State" shirts were the reason i bought the site. Made a few for the OSU game and could've sold a million if we hadn't shit the bed. I had a guy pay $35 dollars for one of my samples the night before the game. Idiot.
how about: underachieving for years, but still better than you..
how about "Michigan: The Fruity Fruity Yam Yams of College Football."
And the "Michigan State/ND/Florida: Easier to Beat than Appalachian State" shirts were the reason i bought the site. Made a few for the OSU game and could've sold a million if we hadn't shit the bed. I had a guy pay $35 dollars for one of my samples the night before the game. Idiot.
Ninja Football | 05.07.08 - 4:58 pm | #
It's easier to make money selling something shitty and cheap to idiots than selling something awesome and expensive to rich people.
BGH:
game tonight is cancelled. I will be hanging out with the fruity fruity yam yams.
I still stand by the shirts, I had more comments on the golf course that day about the Ohio state shirts than any shirt I've evr had/seen. EVERYBODY wanted to know where to get them. My only mistake was not having them made beforehand and selling them pregame, but I cut down on my risk that way.
The Michigan state shirt is a riot to wear out in East Lansing, I usually wear it under whatever regular shirt I'm wearing out, and make a point of introducing myself to anyone I see in an App State shirt. Sans other shirt, of course. the reactions are priceless.
Right on, Barry Wood.
Ninja, I have talked to some people about the Mike Barwis shirt. It's coming together, alebeit slowley.
You've gotta find the right kind of person to draw a T-Rex with shoulder mounted laser cannons fighting a pack of wolves.
@BGH:
Agreed, the right person is definitely needed. I thought the wolves would have the cannons, or did I misunderstand?
this is a detail i have been going back and forth on.
so, not sure at this point.
Motherfucking fat ass Charlie Wuss. Rot in hell, you piece of shit.
Oh, what? you're already rotting in the hell that is south bend, you say?
then just die and go to the other hell.
I vote for Barwis, wolves and laser cannons vs. the T-rex on its own. After all, the cannons on the T-Rex don't make much sense- who would've put them there?
And yes, I realize this is a rather surreal debate.
i like the cannons on the t-rex's shoulder. The image should be on the front of the shirt, and the law of the wolf should be written on the back.
I vote for Barwis, wolves and laser cannons vs. the T-rex on its own. After all, the cannons on the T-Rex don't make much sense- who would've put them there?
And yes, I realize this is a rather surreal debate.
Ninja Football | 05.07.08 - 5:26 pm | #
If we need T-rex images, I recall the TV show Dinosaucers (it's from like 1985) might have some good images to use as a starting point.
Yeah, I'm picturing something really 1970's campy/B movie type of shit.
And i think the text was just gonna say "Fuck Yeah, Mike Barwis!" if i recall. It's BGH's brainchild, he gets all the credit and the final say, I'm just offering the site to distribute them.
I'm worried that the image may become too busy.
I think, artistically, it may look better without barwis actually in the picture.
laser cannons will certainly be involved.
and, i agree, the b-movie style of animation is where its at.
daniel, i'll check out the dinosuacers . thx.
It seems that every time I/we ask Dana to add substance to his/her argument, we hear nothing further from him/her.
I find it funny that a fucking Tommy Chong clone is making fun of how anyone looks. Also, great analysis of Huggins winning with Beilein's players. Yeah, it's not impressive at all that a coach led his team to the Sweet 16 with players who do not fit his preferred system.
Obviously, Michigan has the better coach. Hope you guys have a great season next year, that is, if any players are left on the roster. I guess making fun of a guy's clothes helps to comfort fans of an at a supremely medicore athletic program.
@Magnus
I'm glad to see I'm not the only person in the world playing NCAA 08 on PS2.
Yepnope,
The implication of the "Beilen's players" comment was that they were crappy players that Huggins miraculously molded into winners. I think the data Brian presents refutes the initial premise.
Oh, and look at what supremely mediocre athletic program is second in the director's cup:
http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/scho...f/
May1RandS.pdf
I always knew there was a problem with our athletic program but could never put my finger on it. Now that I know it's medicore, I can get on with my life.
Speaking of T-Rex's. Not perfect but:
http://www.toyarchive.com/
Dinosa...sRexProto1a.jpg
Btw, anyone notice the MGoStore link hasn't worked in a few weeks?
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i noticed..i was looking to purchase the Ohio, worst state ever shirt
Ninja
what are you talking about? I didn't say any of that stuff about Sawyer.
H4H:
Only the sane comment were actually me. the rest, and half of what was said by everyone else between 4pm-5pm, was handlejacking.
who's the punk now?
...R2 needs to get up to speed with Michigan tradition. #1 should ONLY be worn by the star wr. Thats what tradition all about. He should have known that by simply looking at the star wr's who have don the mazie & blue.
I'm crossing my fingers for #1 to continue to be a WR but I will wait until numbers are finalized to start yelling rabble rabble rabble!
Charlie Weis waddles. The rule is once someone is fat enough to waddle it's ok to make fun of them. And he has both an above the belt roll and an under the bell roll. That's just wrong.
Dana,
Are you a guy or a girl anyways? Because I picture you as a shemale standing at about 3-9.
I just found the coolest thing ever; NCAA GARDEN GNOMES. Check it out; they have Michigan!
http://www.gnomefrenzy.com/unive...rden-
gnome.html
New posts are up at my website.
Tim W:
Thanks for the laugh.
Best I've had all day!
"In the Dhani video, at the 0:45 mark. There is a #1 in the middle of the screen. Last time I checked, LBs played defense. Why is there a #1 on the field if WR only get #1?
Is it Terrell? Or some random DB that got #1 too??!
Maize4Blue | Homepage | 05.07.08 - 3:16 pm | #"
I think it's Terrell, since he played cornerback once in awhile.
\9 Travis Turnbull
is it weird to see mediocre players wearing the great numbers of a program? sure, for a while.//
Turnbull's a legacy of sorts...Red coached his dad in the NHL with the St. Louis Blues. Sometimes it's about more than mere God-given talent (see: Gajic, Milan).
\After all, the cannons on the T-Rex don't make much sense- who would've put them there?//
I love this idea...it seems to have come from the same thought process as the "gorilla with a chainsaw for a penis."
Now THAT is a T-shirt that needs to happen.
simply looking at the star wr's who have don the mazie & blue.
Could you please be mildly realistic?
AC = star
Terrell = star
Edwards = star
McMurty = not a star
Butterfield = not a star
DA = somewhere in the region between star and not a star
Weis is actually the poster child for the modern American. Inflated sense of self worth (self explanatory). Overindulgence until it threatens your well being(financially, or in his case eating). Expect someone else to bail you out with a quick fix(gastric bypass). Then, sue the bastards when things go bad. That, and he's a tremendous asshole.
This link might not work, but I think this could be good reference material for your shirt
http://a7.vox.com/6a00bf76d0a9b7...84d4f0002-
500pi
So if we flood RRod's email with pleas to solidify the #1 tradition, think it would do any good?
Ie. who has RRod's email?
I hate to admit it but its funnier to call him dickRod.
That image is from Dino-riders, it was an 80's cartoon and toy line. The toys were incredible.
The main bad guy was voiced by the same guy who voiced Cobra Commander and Starscream.
Look I get some people like the cutesy #1 thing but
a. I kinda have a hard time believing Braylon is "mad" at RR
b. I don't want to be associated with the type of people who write emails to Bill Martin, Mary Sue Coleman, or Rich Rodriguez about the football team and especially people that write letters about how hurt they are a WR isn't going to wear #1
The break with tradition (or emerging tradition, as the case may be) would not bother me so much if it was entice some uber recruit. Not sure Floyd fits the bill.
Reasons I support the "tradition"
a) doing otherwise may offend Braylon. Having possibly the best WR in the NFL putting a positive spin on recruiting will NOT hurt us.
Who doesnt believe Reggie Bush was on that phone call, or that his influence didnt affect the recruiting?
b) It sends a positive message to young recruits. Braylon became the leader our team needed because was striving to live up to the expectations Llllloyd presented him with. God forbid we create a individual goal that stresses responsibility and a focus on the team.
c) I have a #1 jersey. I would rather it be associated with a tradition or superstar player. I have no desire to whore myself out to some new freshman corner. If I wanted the jersey of a corner, I'd go buy DWarren's.
When an OSU player wears 45 - you know its not recognizing Andy Katzenmoyer.
Llllloyd
Thank you for summing up in one word why I will never again read anything written by you have a good day.
Too Late. You just read this.
Might as well read on next time I have something useless to say.
:)
Also
a) doing otherwise may offend Braylon. Having possibly the best WR in the NFL putting a positive spin on recruiting will NOT hurt us.
TO and Randy Moss are on lines 1 and 2 for you
I am willing to accept that there are many opinions as to how to define "best".
Not being Randy or TO is probably one of my top criteria for being eligible for the adjective best.
Having gone to my favorite school and now playing for my NFL team are also criterion.
Biased - yes.
Mine - Yes.
Would you concede either:
having ONE OF the best...
OR
having one who might eventually be the best....
may not hurt us?
So big deal that Weis said to hell with michigan. I've been saying to hell with notre dame for 35 years.
Man, nothing like a litte ND/UM hate to get me excited about what will be a groundbreaking season for Meeechigan football.
Love It!
Up thread there was talk about who would be favored. Michigan will be. I say -4. Wolverines have been favored in eight of the last nine matchups. No reason to think the oddsmakers wont make the same call again. Most of the time UM has been favored by a TD or more.
Lines for "Big Games" will be released by various books sometime in mid to late July. UM will be a little more than a FG chalk. How that line changes after the first weeks of the season will be a storyline to watch.
Part of me is worried about the ND game. While domers at times are loathe to admit it, beating michgian is a must win every year for them. Two beat downs in a row dont sit well. I have a feeling ole weis whale is looking at 9/13 at their true season opener.
Reflect on the way Lloyd and company honed in on ND, yawned and did squat in their first two games before that, and then unleashed on the Irish on both sides of the ball. Carr was under a ton of heat based on how the rivalry had gone in recent years and the team strove for that game all off season. ND is doing the same right now.
His statements in that audio clip show that rather than to hell with us, that he is preoccupied with us.
Now, they have to show major offensive improvements, however, to beat us. Remember ND has only scored 3 meaningful offensive touchdowns on us in the Weis era. Only 1 in the last 10 head to head quarters.
It will be a tight, low scoring game. One team will be at home (in a place where everything goes bad usually for this specific visitor) and they also ought to be more comfortable withb their offensive scheme as opposed to UM.
Crap. I am worried again. Time to take a drink.
dex,
yeah i've seen that picture several times. its awesome but i dont think the new age style really would look that great on a t-shirt.
You don't fuck with the Braylon.
Btw I was joking about the "who would've put them there" line.
And a gorilla with a chainsaw penis? How in the hell did I miss that comment?
Funny "corporate meeting as blog commenter" skit: The "first" thing reminded me of here.
http://www.collegehumor.com/vide...m/video:
1771556
WOOOOOOOOOO TIGERS I HATE THE BOSOX THANK GOD
Tim, no really, don't fuck with Braylon!:
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2008...city-
ducks.html
Jim Harbaugh Scramble,
I did not write that crack about your mythical "daughter" earlier.
It's unfortunate that the banter around these threads has to be sabotaged by a bunch of prebuscent douchetards.
dex,
I've been following some of your posts and I think your blog is great. I remember where the 'communist football' theme is from as well. The theme strikes me as being ill-suited to the new regime though. If you think aboot it, the Carr era was pretty much the epitome of what you might call communist football- closed to the media, with an archaic offense scripted into out executing the opponent in a manner similar to the way a Warsaw Pact drive through Germany would have been executed. Tight tactical control with no initiative by those in command. Think Henne being ordered never to scramble or the zone-left play that everyone knew was coming like the Soviet steamroller through the Fulda Gap.
@Huss
"I did not write that crack about your mythical "daughter" earlier.
It's unfortunate that the banter around these threads has to be sabotaged by a bunch of prebuscent douchetards."
I didn't write that response calling you a prick either, so no big deal.
I'm not sure what the recent wave of handle jackings is about. I remember the days when a comment thread was 50 posts long and there were no "firsts" or handle jackings.
I'd be willing to host a board like Tigerrant if people were interested and Brian approved.
I'd be interested in a Michigan board.
I can't believe Brian hasn't set up a registration required board yet
Enough cracks about Hindus. Kiss my ass.
-an Indian UM alum
I remember when he had to walk to school, uphill. BOTH ways!
Hey you, get off my lawn! ....zzzzz....
Goddamnit, people. Get over this #1 crap. The only reason to care about it is if giving #1 to a certain player defies a major donor's expressed wishes (i.e., Braylon). Otherwise, who gives a shit? It's a number. Got that, folks? A NUMBER. Unless RR wants the players to wear pink jerseys and high heels, shut your mouths and let RR run the program. In Rod we trust, right? RIGHT???
I just got done reading the last 2 threads and I have been laughing my ass off.
Also, I Can't believe someone else hasn't suggested an annual game between ND and Kan. St..
Yeah, aah, it could be called the "Fat Bowl".
I'm rooting for Mangenious. True story!
Weis(or I should say Wuss) just STFU!!!
@flight-sci
Think of the WLA more as rogue, guerrilla fighters driving off a corrput and inefficient regime with their wits and speed. More Che Guevara than Lenin, really.
Plus we massacre those not devoted to the cause
Is that Bob Huggins or Randy Quaid from Christmas Vacation? "Clark, the shitter's full!"
http://141.211.39.65/allroster/f...er/
fbsearch.htm
By the way, this is a cool website run by the Bentley Library. It has the historical rosters, so you can look up people by number (1, for example) or year, in case you're trying to figure out who all was on the team the year you first went to a Michigan game (1988 for me).
BRING BACK MGOSTORE!!!!!!!!!!!!! How am i supposed to get my funny t-shirt fill this summer??!??!?!?!
While he may not have been a star, McMurtry's a helluva lot closer to being Alexander than he is Butterfield.
Fuck you.
OK, so the #1 tradition has involved 5 players. 3 were good. 2 were not.
FWIW, #2, in the same span, has had 4 good players (at least, 3 played significantly in the NFL, and a 4th was just drafted in the 4th round): Chris Calloway, Charles Woodson, Cato June, Shawn Crable.
I have a question for y'all. Is Dion Sims strictly an offensive player, or does he play both ways? With his frame, 6'5 235, how would make one helluva DE. Just sayin...
I know this is all moot if he decides to play hoops.
excuse me, HE would.
Oh for fuck's sake. I'm still having a difficult time understanding why the people who DON'T care about the number are arguing against it. So some people (me included) do happen to see it as a tradition of sorts, why do you care? That's like you saying you feel passionately about the plight of the fleet-footed double-breasted platypus, and me arguing that I could care less but trying to prove that it shouldn't matter to you.
Seems to me the people who are only old enough to remember Braylon and Butterfield say who cares (understandable) but anyone who is old enough to remember AC (barely), McMurtry, and DA has a different opinion. Jebus, just leave it alone already if it means nothing to you. Railing against it makes you sound like a bunch of (want to)know-it-all little brats.
For the record, I like the #1 semi new tradition. I associate the #1 with a beast of a WR. Just like the ND # 3 is a QB. Like the #10 at UCLA.
You identify the number with the school and it's good players.
Good point about the # 2, as well.
I don't think this is about being bratty. Let me lay my view out simply so we don't have a misunderstanding.
1. I personally do not care about #1 (this is basically irrelevant since I have no say in the matter)
2. I think it could be a cool tradition.
3. I think people freaking the fuck out about RR not "upholding" the "tradition" are severely off-base and freaking the fuck out about nothing. This is not a crisis of the program.
McMurtry (111 rec, 2163 yds, 15 TDs) >>> Calloway (56 rec, 823 yds, 8 TDs) in terms of UM career.
dex, i didn't want to take the time write that, b/c i knew someone else would do it for me.
the point was, is it that huge of a deal? i mean some people are treating this like RR was removing the wings from the helmets for godsake.
http://www.boschemblogger.com/20...h-not-
very.html
So Coach Rod is a dick. What else is new? The players need to forgot about the old regime's "country club" atmosphere and get used to the tough love. Bo, Saban, and Meyer are/were all dicks, and they have done a pretty damn good job.
@ sodak: I think Sims preference is 1.) BBall 2.) WR 3.) TE 4.) DE. That's unfortunate because from what I've read, his greatest potential for collegiate/professional success is probably ranked in the exact opposite order.
@ Ninja (or anyone else)
This is an issue that I've posted a couple times, but nobody really responded to it...
When I see the #7, I associate it with great QB's (Leach, Henson, Henne). It's also been held by people like Spencer Brinton.
When I see the #77, I associate it with great tackles (Long, Jansen). It's also been held by Tony Pape and Mike Trgovac, pretty good players, but not great.
So what makes the #1 so different than these other numbers? Why not reserve those numbers for the top tackle and the starting quarterback?
On top of that, how do you determine who deserves that number or how often it is given out?
Let's say it's given to Stonum. Shouldn't Mathews or Clemons be pissed that he got it as a freshman but they're above him on the depth chart (presumably)? Is it given out at the beginning of each year?
I know that might be taking it a little too far. I'm not completely against the idea. I just think it's a little convoluted at this point.
And one more #1 related item, honestly, how long will it last? Didn't Mario specifically say he wanted to keep 86 when asked about being #1?
I think there is quite a bit of evidence out there that WRs tend to be ego-centric (and this is not me ripping on "selfish WRs" - on the contrary, I think it's one of the most individual positions in football and it's no coincidence the very best tend to also be "arrogant" or "selfish" so I think it's a good thing) - and add in the natural athlete tendency to be attached to a number, how many will even want to change their jersey # in their junior year? It's all very silly in the first place I agree but I'm just not understanding this fervor about the # I guess.
I think the the #1 is associated with highlights. Over the past 20 or so years of watching UM football, how many times have you seen a highlight with the #1 hauling in a TD pass? How many times is the AC TD replayed? The Braylon MSU game? Terrell ? Alexander.
That's the correlation I make with UM and the #1.
I think whats made it different was the way it was embraced by the player (Edwards).
He was challenged, and met the expectations.
He tried to solidify it as tradition by dropping an obscene amount of cash to do so.
I personally hate show-boat players - and loved the way he lead our team.
I still remember the UM MSU game. I remember sitting in my room watching the little tv as all my friends jeered downstairs on my big screen.
Ive never seen a WR dominate a game like he did there. Watching him go into the endzone over and over, watching him up on the bench pleading with our fans to cheer the team on..
No one who watched that game will ever forget it.
Every time I put on the #1 jersey it reminds all my friends of that glorious day.
and on a side note - who didnt enjoy the inside joke of the new math, 86=1.
are we still jabbering on about this?
What else is new?
Just look at the #23 in basketball. Tons of people have it. Are they "disgracing" Jordan and ruining the history?
No. It's just a number. It's how you perform in your given number.
I wouldn't care if our QB wore #69, as long as he got the job done. Though with that number, I don't know how you couldn't.
What if Shaved beaver gets 6 and mike cox gets 9?
So Coach Rod is a dick. What else is new? The players need to forgot about the old regime's "country club" atmosphere and get used to the tough love. Bo, Saban, and Meyer are/were all dicks, and they have done a pretty damn good job.
West Texas Blue | 05.08.08 - 10:09 am | #
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i love anything that starts with "i ran into a person who knows people on the team" or "i know someone who is close to the team". those phrases have become exhausted this off season, it seems like everyone but me has insider info.
@ dex: I know Braylon is advocating honoring a WR with the #1 at some point mid-career, but that's kind of dumb in my opinion. Just give it to a promising wideout as a freshman and let them wear it for their career, as it was orginally done. For every Tyrone Butterfield, hopefully you end up with 4 or 5 good receivers, as has happened over the past 25 years. I admit it would look kind of silly seeing some 5* scrub in the #1 (Doug Dutch?) while the next 3* Braylon lights it up in #80, but whatever. At least there's a chance for the "tradition" to continue, what little there may be.
@ Magnus: I consider the relative success of QBs at #7 or OTs at #77 to be coincidental since these are "typical" jersey numbers worn by many players at those position groups over the past 25 years. There's something inherently unique about the #1, much like the #0 or #00 in basketball. I wouldn't remember Orlando Woolridge or Robert Parish's number if they weren't unique. Combine that with the fact that it's worn by a position group that's typically in the #80s and I feel it's different. I realize that's largely based on feelings and perceptions, but there it is.
Huh - I thought Calloway was better at Michigan. I guess that I figured since he had a long career as a decent NFL receiver, he was better at M.
Most people wear 23 because of Jordan.
@ MRG
That makes more sense than most of the drivel I've read.
I always wore #13 because no one else ever wanted it because it was "jinxed".
Let's start talking about our favorite jersey numbers.
I could understand complaints if RR came in and wanted to completely change the uniforms. But a line has to be drawn somewhere. Bitching and moaning about a jersey number is juvenile. Plain and simple. End of story.
MRG - but the numbering in college is so jacked up, that it's hard to even say that "Receivers are in the 80's". Walker, Avant, Terrell, Bellamy, Calvin Bell, Arrington, Mathews, Desmond, Mercury Hayes - all of them aside from Desmond were under 20 (Desmond started as a DB, I think which would explain the number). That's like 80% of our receivers from the past 10 years.
When we start 2 linebackers with numbers under 50 (Graham, Ezeh) and lineman in the 80's (Alan Branch), I tend to throw the whole thing out.
My favorite numbers are #2, #56, and #77.
By the way, I'm not posting that to be argumentative - just that numbering in college is essentially "free form".
@ chitown
I think the difference is that Branch is the only #80 as a DL, Avant was the only relevant #8 as a WR, etc.
The numbering in college is messed up - but I like it that way. That's one of the things thst separates college from the NFL.
I like the NFL with its set numbers, and I like college with its random numbers.
good god we need some real football games
I've worn 13 since I can remember.
On NCAA 08, I always go through and change all the freshmen numbers. Numbers like 53 and 65 and 19 and 95 are stupid.
Still debating this stupid # issue. You people need to get a life.
DOMER-
Thank you. I think I'll do something wortwhile like go over to Blue- Gray Sky and be a dick.
Thanks for the insight.
to hell with dieting!
i like #8
So I guess now that multiple M sports bloggers have weighed in on the topic, we can agree that jersey numbers actually mean something? Can we at least put the bullshit "whatever, the jersey number doesn't mean anything" meme to bed now? Dex and chitown, I'm looking at you two...
Thanx MRG.
Whole heartedly agree that college number is more free form, but the "good" players at particular position tend to cluster around #1 or a more "traditional" position group number. I believe this is further evidence that the #1 is unique in terms of player abilities and some perceived intrinsic value.
I promise this is my last comment on this, not to give any satisfaction to DOMER, just because I'm tired of it.
Director's Cup -- no way Michigan can make up a 200-some point deficit to win.
@ SCALZ1
You certainly are qualified. Have fun.
Truthfully, I'm gonna check out what they're saying about Jabba saying "to hell with Michigan". I can hear the echoes stirring all the way in Florida. Should be some extra sweet kool aid going on on the ND boards.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/
...st_virgini.html
I can't believe people actually are defending and believing Charlie saying "I could win with thugs" and "I don't make excuses". It really makes me lose a ton of faith in Notre Dame when they allow this to be said. No semi intelligent, rational person could defend the "I could win with thugs" statement, especially after Navy beat them at ND.
Still with the numbers talk?
I love numbers.
i though the cookie monster was fictional, then i saw charlie weiss put down a package of windmill cookies in 4.3 seconds.
Windmill cookies are good, I haven't had those things in years.
Ok good. The numbers thing has been exhausted. What does everyone think about the game captains as opposed to season captains?
dammit cfaller all I'm saying is I don't give a shit about who wears #1 I AM MELTING DOWN RIGHT OVER A GOD DAMN NUMBER I HATE ALL OF YOU DIE DIE DIE
excuse me that was uncalled for
maize- i like it for this year, but i don't like it as a continuing thing.
@ dex
Take a deep breath. It is only a blog.
An idea for all of you budding bloggers: Create an all-time list of UM football numbers. I'd definitely like to check that one out.
@kgh10,
It's almost a necessity this year. I do like how they are stressing senior/upperclassmen leadership. I think (hope) that will continue to be a focal point and stressed. I don't really know what captains do, so I'm not too concerned with the whole season vs. game captain.
If a captain does the coin toss and shakes hands, I'll volunteer to do that.
And by all-time list, I mean who is the best player to wear each number . . . (e.g., Anthony Carter is the all-time best to wear #1, etc., etc.)
Met an old classmate in AA over the weekend and spent 2 hours in line for a Blimpy Burger. Ah, good times remembered.
that would actually be a great countdown to the season, as in, start at like 80 and work down one each day till the first game or something
2 hours for a Blimpy? Wow. Totally worth it, but wow.
@ medals
I already have that list started...
I'm going to start a Michigan blog soon. Just because.
Dex -
As long as day #1 is omitted ?
I'm not sure what Captains do, other than take the coin toss. So, whatever on Game vs. Season captains.
http://michigan.rivals.com/conte....asp?
CID=805750
Here's an interesting article on Rivals about Manningham.
The guy from the New York Daily News basically says the media are going to throw Manningham to the wolves and that if he acts the way he did at Michigan, he won't have a roster spot in September.
He goes on to say that he doesn't think Manningham will be like Pacman Jones, but overall he sounds pretty down on him and expects him to be the 4th receiver.
I think the game-by-game captains could be a positive thing, because it could mean more people try to step up because they want to be captains. It adds some more competition to the idea.
I think it's more of a leadership role, as in the rest of the team has someone to look up to. I don't think they are required to "do" that much extra.
i would usually say charlie will eat his words but ummm..........
i am sure he already has
I'm not really bothered that much by the statement "To hell with Michigan" itself. It's the context. First of all, Weis is making a big mistake. IIRC, you always respect your opponent. We as fans can make fun of ND, but the players themselves have to respect the opponent. UM didn't respect App St. and The Horror happened.
Second, Weis dwells too much on how he is the king of not making excuses. It just sounds pathetic. This will sound stupid, but everyone makes excuses at some point, and some are valid. Was Lloyd just making excuses when he said that Hart and Henne were injured at the end of the season? Is it really just BS to say that UM will struggle in 08 because it is adjusting to the coaching change? I get what Weis is saying, that you play to the whistle, but if ND wins this year but UM comes back and continues to crush ND, then Weis will look like an ass, as if he doesn't already.
I think #1 can be included, scalz, provided that the list be introduced with a Forward, explaining that all numbers, including #1, are created equal.
Really, since communism emphasizes the good of the collective over the good of the individual, would you expect dex to endorse the #1 jersey idea? You're lucky there any any numbers at all.
charlie's number one excuse:
"this bavarian cream is just too good, i can't resist it. this stuff should be illegal. why isn't it illegal?"
Last year : "Michigan is just another game". "Navy is just another game. Now, there are "statement games"
What an asshat.
My take on the #1 issue? I personally don't give a fuck about the tradition. However, the fact that it means alot to two of our most famous alumns, Braylon & AC, one of which is donating hundreds of thousands of dollars in scholarship money and is a high profile probowl talent in the NFL, its probably not a good idea to piss him off. Hopefully, Braylon will talk to RR and everything will be straightened out.
We might be the most underrated team in basketball, but at the end of this year we're going to be #1, #1!
Michigan, huh?
Figured it would atleast be Brandon Smith or Bouba getting the number 1. Maybe J.T. is just more sepcial than any of us know!
Bo Schemboggler kind of sucks. Maybe I'm forgetting that dissent is okay, but he is very down on the new staff. There was one article a few months ago where he just railed on RR for something. In any case, I'm not that surprised that the blog is reporting that the players dislike RR.
I did find this interesting article on the website. It's about OSU's offense next year.
http://www.boschemblogger.com/20...o-back-
set.html
I just checked out the Bo blog. Long on conjecture, and not neccessarily rational statements.
Yeah, as if there wasn't enough cynical Michigan fans
It's basically a pasted article with a "yeah, what he said. We're gonna suck" thrown in for good measure.
I usually don't like to make comparisons between collegiate and professional teams, but, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't the New York Giants win the Super Bowl with a head coach that the players absolutely despise with a passion? I don't think it matters much if the Carr recruits don't like RR much. As long as they are winning, it won't matter all that much. Eventually, RR will have his own recruits and this will be a non issue.
what ever happened to the 'wacko ninja offense' shirt idea?
I would vote for something like
'RIP: zone left, zone left, incomplete, punt' on the back.
Also, anyone remember the maize and blue superman logo shirt that used to be advertised at the top of the mgoblog page? I would really really love to buy that. Anyone know if it's still available?
As long as they are winning, it won't matter all that much.
Quoted for truth.
At the beginning of the NFL season, Tom Coughlin was "omg hotseat players revolt if only he'd have left tiki would have stayed" and then a scant 6 months later the Giants piledriving Brady like a Thai whore and defeating the Evil Empire of the NFL.
I don't read a lot into whether players "like" a coach, especially when they haven't played a game yet.
Ok, i want to see this right now so it can't be refuted later: Who's on board with R2 being a successful hire? I'm already on record as saying I think we're going to be completely dominant in a few years, that we'll become the USC of dual threat Qbs, and that we'll have a realistic chance of playing in the MNC game each and every year, with regular BCS appearances. But to me there's too much whining and moaning and hand-wringing over every little thing. So, for posterity, this is a simple call for a vote of confidence for RichRod. A simple yeah or nea will suffice if you don't want to get more in-depth.
I'm with Ninja Football. Yea.
However, I will say I'm going to feel awfully weird and skeevy as I assume the role of RichRod "apologist" over the next few years. Keep in mind, I was absolutely ecstatic over the Amaker hire, so my positive judgment on RichRod could be a portent of bad things to come.
yeppers, ninja. I still have mixed feelings about the Les vs. Rod debate, but I'm stoked re: the future.
Hey, cool random fact: the Sun Bowl is around 500 yards away from Mexico. This means that bored UTEP fans can just watch Mexicans sneak through the border whenever UTEP begins to take a pounding.
And BTW, yeah, where the hell is my Wacko Ninja Offense t-shirt? Who does Big Gay Heart have to blow to get that thing done? Chunks?
I would vote for something like
'RIP: zone left, zone left, incomplete, punt' on the back.
THAT is quality. I've been screwing around with a Ninja football shirt, would love to put that on the back.
Also, does anyone know if Brian's even awars that GoStore has been down for a month or so? I'll email him about it (also want to make sure he's ok with me screwing around with ideas from the board if he doesn't want to put in the time) but was curiouos if anyone knew.
Maine & Blue: Don't. Les Miles would be one of the worst things to happen to Michigan. His integrity is questionable and he just isn't that smart a coach. He knows how to win, but he's not among the cutting edge of coaches. He's not Grobe, RR, Tressel, Jim Leavitt, Carroll, or Saban.
I've been cumming non-stop since M hired RR.
*he's not one of today's cutting edge coaches
WHERE IS THE GROBE MAFIA ???
cutting edge coach = Charlie Weis
cutting cheese coach = Charlie Weis
TJ | 05.08.08 - 12:46 pm | #
Fixed.
Damn italics!!!!
So who was going to make the Wacko Ninja Offense shirt, and what was the idea?
Waymen,
yeah, i think you're right. but I do love his commitment to bringing in top notch coordinators, and his M history/Bo lineage would give me a warm feeling in my heart/vag.
Weis said last year that he hopes one of his players would never guarantee a victory to the press (as Hart did before dropping 200 yards on him and rolling ND) yet he runs his mouth like a complete idiot. A coach with class would never make those statements publicly. Even Sweatervest knows to always play up the opponent and at least appear to respect them.
Ninja,
You know I wake up a little hot and bothered every morning thinking about the potential of the RR regime.
Yeah....i have dirty dreams about Calvin McGee
Keegan, I just thought that was the resulting combination of you still wetting the bed and it "burning" when you pee.
I might go and but a green and red wristband for gamedays. Then I can feel a little more like RR and maybe some of the genius will cross over to me.
Ninja,
It doesn't burn when I pee anymore, just my soul when I think about that night. The bed wetting is something we're working on. Rome wasn't built in a day.
but=buy green and red wrist bands
RR was an outstanding hire. Anyone who thinks differently is a) a fool b) kidding themselves 3) going to be shocked in a few years
Maize4Blue,
You forgot "d) Bragging incessantly about how they always thought it was a good hire."
"Rodriguez is everything a Michigan fan could want in a hire; to get him after the month-long disappointment train that was the coaching search is manna from heaven."
I completely agree with Brian's statement. Rich Rod will dominate for many years to come.
Regarding Weiss's comments, it strikes me that FatBoy is still flailing about trying to figure out this whole "college" football thing. It's as if he's just discovered that he has a problem communicating and motivating his players, and decided that trash talking is the next experiment to conduct. When that fails, he'll try something new, without ever identifying the real problem: he's an arrogant asshole who refuses to believe anyone else (coaches, players, etc.) can provide him with worthwhile feedback on how to win.
He's just guessing, IMO. He doesn't understand how to win in college, and so he's just trying out whatever he thinks up at night. This guy is just an arrogant and disgustingly fat version of Gerry Faust. Thank you, Jesus.
It is W-E-I-S you dumb dickweeds. Learn to spell.
Mike Barwis uses Chuck Norris as a toothbrush.
I use twinkies.
charlie weis is fat
charlie weis in a sleeping bag = = pig in a blanket.
The extra "S" is in case he eats the first one.
Ninja, count me as a yes. And, although I think there will be times of frustration and struggle this fall, I think there will be be some chub-inducing "thank God for the new regime" moments.
Ooops, my bad. I never really cared enough to figure out how to spell his name correctly. I guess that means I'm an anti-Catholic bigot or something.
Apologies. Carry on.
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The extra "S" is in case he eats the first one.
mooseman | 05.08.08 - 1:35 pm | #
The official Ninja nominee for quote of the day right there folks. That's quality.
Yes- good/great hire. It will take a few years, my only hope is we're respectable enough over those 2-3 years that we a) beat ND b) beat lil brah c) piss on Tressel like the slimy whore he truly is at least once.
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