I actually fear for the health of the Indiana and Ball State quarterbacks. Drew Tate just has it coming. He should thank the Michigan line for the advance notice of the pain he is going to be in after he gets drafted by some NFL team with an O-line worse than what he plays behind now.
The offense wasn't looking too special. I say we have breaston run fly patterns over and over every game until he catches one and gets some damn confidence
Nice win. You guys whooped us plain and simple. That was the best performance I've ever seen by a defensive line. We're a young team and have some growing to do.
Putting the picture of an injured player at the head of the post is a little excessive, don't you think?
In this era of pampering the QB, I'm surprised it wasn't flagged for a late hit.
Does anyone else think Brian should get some serious consideration for Poet Laureate? I'm just waiting for him to bust out the iambic pentameter post-Iowa.
Pit bull, bitches!
Lets not get ahead of ourselves here...
You have played Vanderbilt in the "Game of the Century", Central Mich, a mediocre Notre Lame, a schizophrenic MSU, and rebuilding PSU...You only mustered 17 and they got 10 with the 3rd sting qb in the game. I think this team has more questions than answers right now and if no MM for Nov 18th, don't bother flipping the tube on....Iowa will be a test now that their pissed off about Indiana...1st test of the season 8 weeks in.......
It's a month too early to get into the OSU-UM pissing contest, regardless of how the stars are lining up (IMO, at least), but now it's a "schizophrenic" MSU team? Seems like after OSU laid 'em out Saturday it was likened to a "total beatdown of a quality Big 10 opponent".
i wouldn't say too excessive, especially given the subsequent foray into the deception that is etiquette... nevertheless, you'll have to firgive us for our proud beaming papa-like pride in our D-line's abilities...
"There is no "if". Michigan has still not been threatened this year. No opponent has moved the ball except when fortunate or permitted to. Its dominance is unquestioned by the foes it leaves battered in its wake."
Bravo Brian...
I just read over the fanhouse post & comments, and have to say that our offense didn't look quite as bad as I imagine you think they did in person... yes, the early playcalling should've included *some* attempts to stretch them out with deep balls, but overall, my impression on tv was that the goal was for the O-line to begin to assert some run-blocking dominance of its own (pass blocking seemingly works quite well).
I don't long for horrible predictability, but the OL still needs to become a more consistently dominant run-blocking force, and such play-calling seems to be designed to get them there...
(not a full defense of it, just a possible reason DeBord focused on it early)
anyway, finally get to come down-state for this week's game! can't wait
i wouldn't say too excessive, especially given the subsequent foray into the deception that is etiquette... nevertheless, you'll have to firgive us for our proud beaming papa-like pride in our D-line's abilities...
"There is no "if". Michigan has still not been threatened this year. No opponent has moved the ball except when fortunate or permitted to. Its dominance is unquestioned by the foes it leaves battered in its wake."
Bravo Brian...
I just read over the fanhouse post & comments, and have to say that our offense didn't look quite as bad as I imagine you think they did in person... yes, the early playcalling should've included *some* attempts to stretch them out with deep balls, but overall, my impression on tv was that the goal was for the O-line to begin to assert some run-blocking dominance of its own (pass blocking seemingly works quite well).
I don't long for horrible predictability, but the OL still needs to become a more consistently dominant run-blocking force, and such play-calling seems to be designed to get them there...
(not a full defense of it, just a possible reason DeBord focused on it early)
anyway, finally get to come down-state for this week's game! can't wait
Keep deluding yourself that OSU is somehow clearly superior to UM. Most people with brains, even the few OSU fans in this category, know different.
"I rushed for fourteen more yards on Michigan than Penn State did."
Michigan Monday is out:
http://www.the-ozone.net/
footbal...higanmonday.htm
I think Son of Jorel wants to talk us into being scared. With this defense, I am scared of nobody, especially not tOSU.
The Morelli picture on his back is an image of how dominant our defense is, it's not taunting or rubbing it in.
I am so looking forward to this weekend. That's right, I'll be in Ann Arbor for the Iowa game this weekend! I can't wait! Go Blue!
-Josh-
seriously, son of BJ, er, jorel... are you watching the same team we are?
btw, your game this weekend was also vs. a schizophrenic MSU (with a softened-up QB, btw, thanks to our ferocious D-line)... and you have wins against the rebuilding PSU, BGSU (true MAC powerhouse there), and who can forget Cincinnati... whew, down early to the mighty bearcats, eh? yes you beat texas, good job there. but one-loss ND will likely also carry that record into their match-up with USC, so those teams are basically a wash...
bottom line = what you see on the tele is scaring you...
Yes, we are bringing the nastiest, most physically brutal D-line in the country into the goat-shoe;
Yes, we'll be happy to appease your super mario fixation and bring him, healthy, into the toad-shoe, ready to light it up;
Yes, UM v. OSU will be a game for the ages, and a match-up of two heavyweights. BUT, the one who comes in ranked #1 does not necessarily leave as #1...
I suspect the very real possibility that we could beat your little nuts is beginning to sink in... hence the ridiculous posts...
What??? Dude pull out the Texas tape....You see how they got dealt with and their D-line is much better than Michigans. Their is absolutely nothing to fear coming out of Ann Arbor other than Ron English spit bath........
Good win for an impressive defensive football team. Very impressed with both of your lines...thought the o-line was well coordinated and ready for what we were going to throw at them.
The defense is special and you couple that with a very pedestrian PSU o-line and you get pictures like you have up top.
I look forward to coming to Ann Arbor next year with a veteran club and a veteran QB (who by the way, was playing well before he was stretched out)...good luck.
Steve
I'm shaking in my boots right now. tOSU may beat us by two touchdowns:
- they beat MSU by 31 and we only beat MSU by 18.
- they beat PSU by 22 and we only beat PSU by 7.
I think tOSU is about 2 scores better than M.
So yeah, I'm literally shaking in my boots and shitting in my pants ... just like Troy Smith after seeing what M did to Morelli.
Seriously, Jorel, I see your lips moving - err quivering - but the only thing I hear are your knees knocking together. Dude, you might want to sit these next few plays out, because after this weekend you will be convincing NOBODY around here that we should have any reason to be scared.
Lmao...Dude the game is in Columbus......You see what the impact of a crowd has on opposing teams....Lloyd is still coach...I don't care how O.J. mad Ron English gets, that don't impress me. We handled a better D in Texas...You'll have a gimpy MM....We have Pei Mei as head coach....its over........
To be honest, I also suspect Michigan will have a close game this weekend and beat Iowa by no more than a score, so I guess tOSU is also 2 scores better in that regard.
(Really shaking in my boots.)
You guys had the same players from last year.....Whats changed??????? The exact same crew plus one slobbering O.J. insane D-coordinator. Nothing..Same names, same numbers, new coordinators and now everything is different...lmao...stop the insanity..
Jorel,
Hope you didn't put any money on that 7-point loss you predicted.
Is that the same Texas defense that gave up a number of meaningful points to Baylor this past weekend?
Or the one that let their offense be outgained by a one trick pony (Oklahoma)?
Just checking.
Also, was anybody else just waiting for Paterno to go Oscoda High School and just cancel the rest of the season on the spot with the same, "it's to dangerous for our players logic?"
I love it when the nuts start to panic. They're so...predictable. Ask the Detroit Tigers if changing coaches doesn't make a difference in how a season plays out.
And for someone who professes to not give a damn about the whole state of Michigan, he spends an awful lot of time reading this blog, dontcha think?
Considering Michigan would have won last year with the same players if not for the traditional horrific defensive strategy down the stretch, I don't think "LOL U R THE SAME TEAM AS LAST YEAR" is exactly a great comeback.
I think everyone on earth can see that both OSU and Michigan are very good teams, it is certainly possible OSU will win, hell considering it's in Columbus it might even be likely, but you're a complete moron if you think it's a sure thing or that Michigan can't administer a beating.
if you ignore, he will go away. Anyone spouting such ignorant blather is simply seeking attention.
Please, please dont overlook iowa.
I really don't think anybody who belongs in these parts is really overlooking Iowa. The lingering effects of last year haven't totally gone away in that regard. I just simply think the argument is that we're not afraid, and have no reason to be at this point. Yeah, Iowa can definitely beat us. But that's going to require some level of us not showing up on Saturday. No disrespect to Iowa.
No chance for Iowa this week. They may have had a shimmering hope if the game were in Iowa.
The laws of physics do not allow for a running game against Michigan. If you cannot run, then you must pass. If you try to beat Michigan through the air, your QB will eventually be broken in half or commit many turnovers. Either outcome works to the Blue's advantage.
Michigan will dominate Iowa this week and will win by at least 20 points with at least one defensive score.
It's so amusing to see delirious fans of opposing teams (you know who) continue to post know-it-all predictions, and yet continue to be proven wrong. There's something very satisfying about that...
"Putting the picture of an injured player at the head of the post is a little excessive, don't you think?"
He's just one asshole; he's not representative of all Michigan bloggers. Please remember that.
Ok....I'll role play...slobber...You guys looked great on D against the anemic PSU offense. You know the one that's been pretty bad the entire season... The way you guys managed to score just 17 pts and win by 7 in a game many predicted would be won by 21pts is awesome. I like how Mike Hart got all his yards in the 4 th quarter when the opposing D was tired and worn down from playing the entire game. Ron English could play a great cop on NYPD blue if it was still on tv....I'm telling you I was blown away.....Lets slobber on each other guys...Roman style...No Mark Foley....
I might quiver this week if you can do the same thing against a mobile, experienced qb in Tate.....This unfortunately looks like it will be your toughest game of the season until the 18th at the SHOE........
Jorel - your mere presence here (and constant replies to our posts) proves that you FEAR Michigan. OSU is a great team and so is Michigan. Who is better? We'll see on 11/18. Why don't you save your arguments and rationalizations until then, fraidy cat?
Jorel, the opinions you express are done in such an insulting manner as for me to conclude that they are meaningless drivel.
Statistics can be twisted so many different ways, and can be used to prove many things on both sides of an argument. Thus the phrase "statistics are for losers"...I think as I get older I realize more just how true this is.
In my fandom, I go by what I see. I've seen every M snap this year and most of the OSU snaps. My conclusion is that M's defense is more physical than OSU's but OSU's D is also excellent.
OSU has more speed on offense than does M, and with Troy Smith playing as smart as he has been playing, their offense is extremely difficult to stop.
That said, M's secondary - which is taking some criticism, is very fast. Trent is blazing fast, Hall is an All-American. Mundy is definitely not slow, Adams I think is vastly improved over last year. Harrison is a burner. Sears is fast. As far as speed matchups go, I think M will match up with OSU better than any other team they have faced this year - remember Texas was missing two starting DBs in their game earlier and Colt McCoy was simply not ready for such a big game. Henne is. He's been around the block three times now.
I see the game as tight. I think OSU/M are the two best teams in the land right now. I give the nod to OSU because they are at home...but this "no chance" stuff is a statement only a dumb person would make unless they were just attempting to irritate. If you really believe that then you have very little football knowledge and no sense of the history of this rivalry.
Or you are just an asshole.
Unfortunately, I think I know what the answer is.
Didn't the high-powered, best in the nation, nobody can stop us OSU offense manage a mere 14 points against PSU at home? Oh...that's right. It was raining that day. I forgot. Teddy Jr. can't catch in the rain unless it is a bag of money.
Anyway, straight from The Columbus Dispatch this morning:
"25 words or fewer"
Marketing possibility: Buckeyes court new official sponsor, Head and Shoulders shampoo, symbolic of where they stand above the national crowd.
The arrogance never stops down here. But the higher the are, the harder they fall.
Unfortunately, we all need to get back to reality and focus on Iowa for now. One step at a time up the mountain.
"Tatoo is also a running back who matches the type of guys PSU defense like to hit. Slow, unshifty, avg vision. I like this to come down to the wire with 105,000 people will contribute to at least one turnover and one touchdown...PSU 17-Michigan 14" -----Jorel
This is what you said last week
"1st test of the season 8 weeks in......." -------Jorel
First you say PSU will win,
Now you say Psu wasn't even a test.
Which is it?
You got the nads to admit you were wrong?
anyone have this weekend's ABC coverage map for the Iowa game?
Just stop responding to the inane drivel. If you read every one of the dipshits posts as "Pay attention to MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!" you'll get a small chuckle out of them.
Every village needs its idiot, and SoJ fills that important role here.
I don't think ABC has published its coverage map for Saturday yet. I believe it typically comes out on Tuesday or Wednesday. Of not is that the other 3:30 game is BC-Flordia State - not exactly a great game, but I expect New England and Florida ABC stations to carry that game, with perhaps a few other stations on the Eastern seaboard doing the same. Unfortunately, WABC in new York often has a horrible ACC game such as this one on instead of Michigan, so I may be using Gameplan for the first time this year.
NOw that the game is over and all, i kinda feel sorry for MOrelli, poor kid, man looked dazed sitting on the bench. Anyway, nice win, though we need to iron out those procedure penalties. Stuff like this will not help us against tO$U.
Using the transitive property thing ("We beat MSU by 31 and you only beat them by 18") to predict the outcome of the UM-OSU game shows an absolute braindead ignorance of the greatest rivalry in all of sports.
(IN RE: Ginn's speed) lest we forget;
Date: May 2, 2004
Morgan Trent traveled down to Dayton Ohio for the Don Mitchell Roosevelt Memorial track meet this weekend, and the young man set the track on fire! He took home the 100-m crown and out-raced Cleveland Glenville’s Ted Ginn Jr. in the 200-m on his way to being named the meet’s most outstanding athlete!
My favorite part of Jorel's comments are the race-baiting and gay-baiting remarks about Ron English. Classy and intelligent indeed.
The one thing that scares me when you compare our defense to the Buckeye D is that they seem to be better at capitalizing on mistakes. By my count, we dropped three interceptions against PSU, and it seems to me we've failed to make those kinds of plays each week (except against ND, when we made the big interceptions).
Contrast that to OSU, when their opponent makes a mistake, it's intercepted and run back for a TD, or they set up a short field, etc...
Thankfully, I think our offense is very good at not making mistakes, especially with a healthy Manningham. This game really showed how important he is - we have very little ability to make big plays deep downfield without him, and we'll need that on the 18th.
One other thing that bothers me...is it just me, or is Steve Breaston regressing in the return game - he seems to be too focused on dancing around to find a hole. He's better when he's decisively going upfield and making 1-2 cuts, instead of lots of little jukes. His inability to break off big returns (even with us now starting to double the gunners) concerns me.
1. Lmao...Dude the game is in Columbus......You see what the impact of a crowd has on opposing teams....
2. I don't care how O.J. mad Ron English gets, that don't impress me.
Son of Hair Jel | 10.16.06 - 11:34 am | #
This is the last time I'm responding to this shit, merely for hilarity's sake anyway...
#1 - does this last phrase have any meaning? "A" crowd does have an impact I guess, mostly in that you are therefore not playing in an empty stadium, and can hear them snacking, talking, etc. Perhaps you meant to imply that the mere presence of a crowd will dissuade us from performing with skill and excellence? I would disagree there, and note to you that this weekend's opposing crowd received all sorts of praise all week... that is until we shut them up with our (way better than Texas or OSU or USC) D-line
#2 - racist drivel like this deserves to be pointed out only in the recognition of the tiny mind which contains it.
I would say that we aren't even close to the same players as last year. Where were these Burgess and Crable characters. I saw a guy with the Burgess name last year but not the same player. Trent, Adams, Biggs, Branch, all more experianced and all having their talent maximized. all I ever heard was how much talent Michigan had and how it was never used. Some said we had the most talent in the nation. And i'm not just talking about recruits I am talking about upperclassmen and guys who have been in the program. now that the talent is being maximized we are somehow not good enough. Everyone knew how dangerous Michigan is, any saturday against anyone. it didn't matter if it was last year, this year or five years from now, they are always dangerous, just not always coached right. I don't think that is the problem now. Son of Jorel (is jorel french for female dog?) the fact that we have the same guys back with more experiance should have you nervous about the 18th because I know that I am.
I have to say as a huge Ohio State fan, that was a very impressive and intimidating showing by Michigan, the box score is very deceiving. That game had all the looks and feels of our game against PSU last year, but the way the defense overcame that, and the way the offense limited mistakes (our downfall unfortunately) makes me think they'll be almost ready for the intense atmosphere in the Horse Shoe come November.
I don't understand the insults being thrown around here in regards to being scared. I freely admit to being scared of Michigan this year, why the hell wouldn't I be? What's wrong with wanting the easy waltz to the championship? I'd much rather be facing that team from last year than this one, just as I'm sure you guys must be lamenting the fact that you couldn't have landed on this game at home, or that Troy Smith isn't long, long gone by now. If this were in Ann Arbor I'd be very skeptical as to OSU's chances. As it stands now it looks to be a great one.
Good luck to you guys on the rest of the season, congratulations on clawing your way up to the #2 spot in the AP poll. Here's to showing the rest of the country what playing in the Big 10 is all about.
I bet, in one of those rare moments of total honesty, Jorel would admit he really is embarrassed by his kid.
Don
UM '01
My favorite part of Jorel's comments are the race-baiting and gay-baiting remarks about Ron English. Classy and intelligent indeed
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WTF are you talking about?????????????????????????????????????????????
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Homophobe Yes,I don't like gay men, but I love lesbians..................
Racist No...........
Coop, the comments above are in response to one obnoxious fan posting above ("Son of Jorel"), who is giving OSU fans a bad name.
UM/OSU should be a great game - good luck to you guys until then!
Update! Chad Henne has entered the Heisman Race. And from what it sounds like, as long as Mario comes back, he might be in too. (Thats 3 heisman candidates!).
What do you guys think about Alan Branch being nominated for Heisman. He is probably the most entertaining DT I have ever seen!
Also write this down, Michigan will beat Ohio State. No team has won with 9 starters on defence and no team will.
mwolv makes a good point. Most teams win with 11 starters on defense.
Damnit, guys, why won't they lose!
Crap!
Of course, saying that ND's only loss came against #2 is nice and all, and certainly makes it look like ND has a tough schedule, but please, please, please lose just one game before Nov 18th so that ND can vault above you guys after we beat USC.
Lose, damnit, and keep me sane!
No, seriously, nice game. Nothing better than watching teams knock out not one, but TWO quarterbacks in the same game.
Looking forward to probably one of the best #1/#2 showdowns on the 18th since ND played USC on November 24, 1988.
1988? Wasn't that in the last century?
After 7 games, our defense is comparing very favorably to the 1997 unit. English's boys are only allowing 24 more YPG than the '97 gang, including less than half the amount of rushing yards. This year's squad has 25 sacks thru 7 games, compared to 16 thru 7 in 1997.
Also, 1997 defense suffocated opponents with it's great LBs and secondary.
This year's defense bludgeons opponents to a pulp with it's monstrous D-line.
Personally, I prefer my defense like my steaks, bloody.
Keep it up, boys!
The Hawkeyes are always a respectable foe. Remember 1997!
I suspect the new clock rules help this year's defense a bit - they certainly have to face less opponents plays than in 97.
But it's been impressive nonetheless.
Can someone get Clark Kent over there a muzzle? Go away, SoJ. If that's all you've got, we don't want it.
Here's hoping we have a second #1 v #2 matchup this season in Columbus, and I think we all know who we want to come out on top.
Go Blue!
(You guys had the same players from last year.....Whats changed??????? The exact same crew plus one slobbering O.J. insane D-coordinator. Nothing..Same names, same numbers, new coordinators and now everything is different...lmao...stop the insanity..
Son of Jorel)
I know that I don't need to point this out to UM fans, but anybody who says that UM has exactly the same players as last year has seemingly forgotten one teensy thing about college football: every year (at most schools, anyway) players finish their education and leave school with diploma in hand.
More specifically, only a knucklehead would fail to grasp that our defensive line is the heart of our defense, and that two senior starters from last year, Gabe Watson and Pat Massey, are not on this year's team. They graduated, remember? And only that knucklehead would have failed to see that Watson was one of the most frustratingly inconsistent allegedly big-time players we've had in the last decade, and that Pat Massey was one of the most consistently ineffective defensive linemen in the last 20 years of Michigan football.
You may well question how in hell the coaching staff saw fit to start Massey at all, considering the guys behind him on the depth chart, but that's last year. It's most definitely a case of addition by subtraction this year.
You could also, if you cared to do a little research, discover that our D-line coach is now in his second year on the staff, and it's clear that his knowledge of technique and ability to teach same is paying off bigtime with guys who've been under his tutelage for the last season-and-a-half.
One could go on about the slew of injuries to our O-line last year, the absence of any deep threat beyond Manningham last year, the fact that Henne has made marked improvement over last year, but I suspect this would fly over the head of Jorel's half-wit son, intent as he is on confirming every negative stereotype there is about OSU fans.
Does this mean that I think UM is a shoo-in down in the snakepit? Nope, I actually think OSU has the edge, in part because the game is in Columbus. There's no doubt Tressel is a damn good coach with damn good players to coach, and if we win we will have earned it in a sure-to-be nasty, close-fought contest. But I really do hope that Senator Tressel, his staff, and his players do have Jorel's half-wit son's attitude. It will only make our job easier.
Great post, Don. I agree that right now, I give OSU the edge because of recent history and homefield advantage. But if they're looking at the U of M matchup with the same cockiness and irrational logic as some of their fans, Michigan will win.
Why would a one-loss Notre Dame team be rated ahead of a one-loss Michigan team? We're not talking a 2-point difference in the head to head matchup . . .
Ma and Pa Kent were Buckeye fans, and I am henceforth disowning Superman.
Yay to flying in from Seattle for the Iowa game!!
1988? Wasn't that in the last century?
js | 10.16.06 - 3:36 pm | #
Yes, it was.
And so was 1997.
Actually, this is interesting. Everyone knows that Lou Holth has a problem with spitting. I guess Ron English does too (although I have never personally seen it, but since Jorel's Son says so, it must be true). Anyway...this could bode well. Maybe teams with spitting coaches are destined to win championships. Indiana did it with Bobby Knight, so why not UM with English?
Of course, you still need to make it out of the Shoe unscathed on the 18th, but there is no person out there that cannot agree that the UM/OSU game this year is quite likely going to be the best #1 vs. #2 this country has seen in a long, long time - maybe even better than the 1993 game between ND and FSU (yes, that was last century, too).
Hey...what is it with those nutty ND fans who always like to harken back to the last century when ND was good, huh? I mean, really...can't they write about anything relevant...like how ND got hosed by UM in 2006 or something like that? Sheesh!
Why would a one-loss Notre Dame team be rated ahead of a one-loss Michigan team? We're not talking a 2-point difference in the head to head matchup . . .
Amused | 10.16.06 - 4:57 pm | #
Because the voters take "recent history" into consideration. ND lost in game 3, but UM (if it suffers one loss as you speculated above) will most likely lose in game 12. That is very important. It also explains why Texas is still #5.
It happened to ND in 1990, and in 1993. And, think of it this way. ND has to beat USC to be part of your scenario. Assuming GT wins out (which is highly likely), ND would be 2-1 vs. Top10 teams. And, assuming UM loses to OSU (again, part of your scenario), they will be 1-1 against Top10 teams (and 2-1 vs. ranked if Wisc continues to win). That would give ND a slight lead in the polls. But again, I think it comes down to "you are better off losing to a team in week 3 than week 12).
Regardless, it would certainly cause a lot of "hoohaa" if UM loses to OSU and falls BELOW ND if ND wins out. Unusual scenario, for sure. Why do you think I keep rooting for a UM loss before the 18th? If UM losses twice, it becomes a non-issue, and ND controls their own fate if they can win out.
I think if UM loses to OSU by 1 point in the final moments of the game by giving up a 2-pt conversion as time runs out, they remain #2 if ND wins out and Texas loses to TAMU. If, on the other hand, UM loses to OSU by 17, and it ends up not really being that close anyway, then UM drops below ND if they beat USC.
Weird, weird stuff, my friend. This is why Tommy Tuberville bitches about a playoff system every year. His bitching is as predictable as a mid-season MSU collapse.
chrisnd,
Please stop deluding yourself. ND isn't a title-caliber team this year. Listen. You have a good coach and a bunch of blue-chippers on their way up the depth charts. Just let this year go, man. Your boys got CREAMED at home by Michigan and you'll get similarly destroyed in whatever BCS game you guys float your way into. ND will be 10-2 with 2 double-digit losses to the only teams on your schedule worth a damn (UM and USC).
After the BCS BEATDOWN, the Irish will be 10-3 and everyone except Domers will know your team really does SUCK.
Now trot along.
Coop, thank you for being a voice of reason in the midst of the asinine drivel of the likes of Jorel. I wish OSU posters like you weren't so few and far between.
Compilation video:
http://www.umich.edu/~jbrons/mvspsu.WMV
My favorite part is the section-wide patronizing of PSU fans (our "Ole" etc to mock their stupid-ass Zombie nation).
Come on fellows, can we start comporting ourselves as fans of the number 2 or 3 team in the country? This back and forth bickering about mine's bigger than yours is getting old, don't you think?
UM CAUP 91
Don't rag on ND, they're gonna hand USC its second loss of the season in Nov., effectively putting a temporary moratorium on useless journalism devoted to the near-threePete and the double-name QB for awhile, and thus ensuring some level of quiet civilility for the near future. The ensuing Weis talk will do what it has done up to now: eat its own tail, slowly but surely. And, quite frankly, what the fuck do we care what OSU or PSU or Iowa or MSU or ND fans have to say about us. We said it better in worse times.
Brian, serioulsy - Jorel needs to be banned. He's a flaming troll and brings nothing to the table other than hatred. Let's hear it for banning the troll!
Jeezus.....You would of thought I posted a picture of Muhammed or something. Listen to yourselves, all getting lathered up over a game, month away. I'm guessing you guys feel this is the team that can finally do it. Finally get over the hump and knock off the mighty bucks. Listen, some advice I got from co-worker of mine who was one of the biggest fuck-ups in all the pizza delivery industries. Lmao...He said Keep your expectations low, so your disappointment won't be high....Those are my words of enlightment for you gang.
Hey look I rooted for you guys against ND and MSU, all out of self interests of course but I did root for you. I'm just saying that Iowa is a fierce opponent and they could lay the upset.......Prove me wrong geniuses....
SoJ, you sure sound like a jack ass.
Hopefully, not all Buckeye fans are like you, otherwise it doesn't say much about your team.
versus tOSU, (we're)Penn State achieved 252 total yards(106 passing, 142 rushing) in the rain.
Against the mighty winged helmets, in front of a raging home crowd which was "whited-out," Penn State mustered 186 yards. (200 passing, -14 rushing) Interesting.
versus tOSU, (we're)Penn State achieved 252 total yards(106 passing, 142 rushing) in the rain.
Against the mighty winged helmets, in front of a raging home crowd which was "whited-out," Penn State mustered 186 yards. (200 passing, -14 rushing) Interesting.
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You can't compare stats dude..........Different variables, different situations.......Whats the square root of your apartment??????
Well, the Penn State delusion is back. The evidence this time? No flag on Branch's hit on Morelli.
Some sample quotes from fightonstate.com.
"I think they at worst go to OT if he doesn't get cheap-shotted outa the game."
"It's a shame, because there are some great football teams trying to play the game in this conference. UM didn't need the help Saturday night...but the UM refs offered it anyway."
Let's play spot the contradiction:
"It's a difference in programs. Tamba Hali was a class act Branch is not. I hope if he's back, the PSU OL takes him behind the woodshed next year."
This one's good...the conspiracy widens:
"Why are PSU quarterbacks always on the end of these cheapshots? Both in the NCAA and in the NFL. Collins has his jaw fractured during his Carolina days on a late hit. James nearly kills Mills and M-Rob in Wisconsin. And this fat load with the late blow on Saturday night."
To be sure, there are plenty of PSU fans on there saying the hit was fine or at least debateable, but how do the paranoid fools among the PSU fan base function in normal life. Does the coffee tastes bad this morning b/c of the Big 10? Are there no parking spots b/c Michigan fans took them all? Is the dish out because referees are up on the roof blocking the signal?
"Sometimes -- and I know this is hard to believe -- seven points is a very large lead indeed."
Brian, I must stringly disagree. A 7 point lead can evaporate in a multitude of flukey, stupid ways that have NOTHING to do with our fantabulous defense!
How about a punt return? Our coverage has been awful at times. Can anyone really tell me that PSU absolutely couldn't have returned a punt in the 2nd half for a TD? No, you can't.
How about someone being tripped without a call? (a la Desmond Howard) Or a DB slipping on the grass?
Stupid shit happens. Stupid shit that your defense has ZERO control over.
So we should at least TRY to keep a 2-score lead at all times.
I can't believe I'm even arguing this point with you after last year!
UM CAUP '91, I agree with you in principle. If either Breaston or Massey catch the damn ball thrown right into their arms we have at least one more touchdown, though.
I do think that PSU has a pretty good defense, given that they also held OSU to 14 pts... the last two touchdowns OSU scored were INT returns.
The '97 team did not have what you'd call a dynamic approach to offense, and several of the games that season were legit nailbiters... ND, Iowa, OSU, and WSU come to mind. There were certainly talented offensive players on the team, so it wasn't for lack of talent.
As well as they've played overall, this team is far from perfect or unbeatable. Our kickoffs and punting have been less than stellar, at times our secondary has looked quite vulnerable, and I still think we're lacking run production when Hart isn't in there. For those reasons I still think we're going to lose to OSU, but I'm far more optimistic than I was seven weeks ago. It's very likely we'll end up no worse than 11-1 for the regular season, and it's hard for me to get too disgruntled over that.
Another CAUPer! Man, we're taking this board OVER!
don, I agree with you 100%. We do have to give the PSU defense a lot of credit. They played their butts off and at least we didn't give them a turnover.
I don't think PSU will play another game all year with that kind of spirited effort on D.
Funny . . . I was always misreading your name as "CALIP" (as in Demetrius), which would have made sense given the '91 graduation date.
I agree that I was pretty concerned at the end, just because of the fact that a trick play or punt return or anything of that sort could have tied the score in a heartbeat.
At the same time, though, the game never felt as close as the score indicated. We outplayed them from start to finish both offensively and defensively, and I really never got the feeling that we were going to lose that game. Despite my fears mentioned above, I don't think anyone (on either sideline)at the end of the game thought that Penn State could drive the field against Michigan's defense. In that sense, when their only potential for points was on special teams or someone on our defense falling down and allowing a fluke play, 7 points felt pretty big.
And yes, CAUPers are taking over the board lol.
My roommate and I always used to quote cinematic masterpiece "Necessary Roughness" whenever a backup QB is thrown to the wolves, "Blow the whistle! Blow the whistle!" I have the feeling that's what was going through the minds of Clark & Cianciolo after they entered the game.
Also, I think the Manningham injury will be a blessing in disguise for the passing game. By the time the tOSU game rolls around Henne should have plenty of confidence in looking in either Manningham's or Arrington's direction.
Do you really think Saturday night took ANY of the luster off Penn State's Big Ten championship in 2005? If you do, you must be about as bright as those UM players who never graduate (close to half). Nice try, though.
Do you think leaving an email address along with an "anonymous" comment makes you as bright as those UM players? Probably not.
I would say Penn State's lone loss (to the worst Michigan team in 20 years) certainly takes the luster off that championship.
And just FYI, in the 12 years between Penn State's conference titles, Michigan won five.
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