QED.
Man - this sucks. I agree with Meyer that we need a playoff, but waiting until 8:00 PM tomorrow is simply too much for a hopeful Michigan Wolverine fan to bear. A neutral playing field and a healthy Burgess and Barringer should be enough for Michigan to pull out a win - now we just need to rely on voters to see it that way.
Yesterday, everybody was saying that it was either USC or Michigan in the title game, after Florida's mediocre perfomance vs. FSU, but CBS did their best to bring the Gators back into the picture. I'm hearing more people making a case for Florida than Michigan in the media right now, though, and part of me just feels like crawling in a hole and forgetting that today ever happened. Screw you, UCLA, for getting my hopes up, and then Fish for delivering those hopes a death blow on that muffed punt return.
Damn, you're good Brian. You got this up quickly.
when do we get the real analysis?
Michigan is the better team but Florida deserves the title game shot. Is that fair? I can live with it. As long as we beat USC and validate ourselves and Finish #2 after OSU rocks Florida. The USC Michigan game would be for preseason #1 fellatio.
Good stuff Brian.
Anyone saw this? Sportscenter has Lloyd Carr on why there shd be a rematch. Very glad that Lloyd is proactive.
After the Rutgers WVA game.
THE TRANSITIVE PROPERTY DOESN'T APPLY IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL
I apologize ahead of time for any Florida fans who don't get the jokes.
Brian,
I thought Columbus was the thirteenth level of hell......
CBS Sports officially became a joke during the last 5 minutes of that Florida game.
Nice. Also, as an aside, people who read /comment on Fanhouse are total effing morons. That is all.
yeah, who were those CBS announcers that were practically gargling Florida's steaming bodily fluids? they were so hard up on Florida sack it was making me sick
Ok, I'm a Michigan homer, & I think Mich should play OSU again in a rematch. HOWEVER . . . Brian, in your despondency after the loss in Columbus, you said, in so many words, that homers needed to get a life in thinking there should be a rematch. Not only do I recall you putting USC over Michigan, I also remember you putting FL & Ark ahead of Michigan. I believe you said, whoever wins the SEC deserves to go more than Michigan. What changed? Was it the FSU game? Was it Tonight? I can scroll down and try to locate what you said, but you would know better where and what you wrote.
Meyer has coached at ND and OSU...therefore should not be respected, also he has a daughter named gigi? obviously his judgement is in question.
I really don't know who started this Florida going to Glendale rally, but this is out-of-your-mind silly. Ask yourself right now, who are the two best teams in the nation, and thus, should play each other in the national championship?
I mean honestly, I cannot even comprehend as to why the media is even trying to spin this Florida's way. This just seems extremely illogical to me.
Don't you think that going through an SEC season with only one loss is enough?
"Tough schedules" are excuses for teams that didn't take care of business. And the team that beat Florida isn't that good.
Yes the SEC is harder to run than the Big Ten, but the SEC has zero teams better than the Big Ten's top two. That helps make it harder to run, no one is better than everyone else in the conf.
Florida looked "great" in exactly zero of their games.
It's funny, we're all here arguing about who "should" go to the "national championship", as if there really is a should, and if the game really crowns a national champion (ie, what if UM goes and beats OSU?). It's all just opinions, and what do opinions matter in sports? The quesion a few years ago wasn't whether Miami was going to beat OSU in the championship; the question was would they beat OSU so badly that OSU would disband its football program out of embarrassment? and was Miami the greatest team in the history of sports? And then OSU won.
So whoever doesn't go will complain for the next decade, and rightfully so. But really, neither team deserves to go. They both "had their chance" at a perfect season.
A playoff is one solution, but no one mentions the better solution: go back to the good ol' days. Win the Big Ten, run around with roses behind your ears. Leave all the national championship nonsense to the people on TV who need something to talk about. College football isn't about finding some supposed national champion according to a joke system; it's about tradition. Winning your conference, and then representing your conference at its bowl. We used to be able to watch the Rose Bowl, Sugar, Orange, etc, all on New Years' Day, perhaps the greatest day of the year. Now there's some Nokia Bowl, Citi Bowl, Tostidos Bowl, scattered about January to maximize ratings.
I'm maize and blue, through and through, but here's my vote: let's unite - UM and Florida, Auburn's still mad from a few years ago, anyone that's been cheated by the BCS - and let's storm the BCS headquarters. Raze it. Leave the playoffs for the NFL. Leave the opinion polls for politics. Go back to what makes college football great. Look where this BCS mess has gotten us: all grovelling at its feet, screaming "pick me! pick me!"
I'd like the chance to beat OSU, but something about UM v USC in the Rose Bowl makes me feel warm and fuzzy. It's like college football makes sense for once, again, if only for a year.
js -
the best overall piece on the whole debate I've heard in a long time. Screw the Mythical National Championship. Let's all GO to the actual bowl games, have a great time, and forget the crowning. Or at least be secure enough in our opinions that we don't need a half-baked playoff to compensate.
Hey, I only clicked once, and it double-posted my post. Blog bug blues...
Carr defers, Urban campaigns
Classic Carr!!
It is well established Michigan policy -- no campaigning. In any sport under any circumstances.
Here I thought you were going to be goofy and sarcastic, then I read the Urban Meyer profile.
Seems pretty spot on to me!
"What do you consider your trump card, in arguing that Florida and not a team like Michigan should play Ohio State?"
"The had their shot, it's time to let the, uhh, I really believe the country wants to see, uhh, two opponents go play each other, and uhh, 12-1 in the toughest, uhh, one of the toughest, most difficult schedules in the country."
Geez, now Mark May and Lou Holtz are campaigning for Florida. What the hell?
I love the rationale that "you need to win your conference to go to the national championship." Sorry, but no. No matter how one might spin it, the top two teams go to the championship game. One could (maybe) argue that the average SEC team was marginally better than the average B10 team. However, the top two teams in the B10 were a notch above Arkansas and Florida.
Also, I don't blame OSU fans for hating the idea of a rematch. I about jumped out of my skin when Herbie lobbied the idea of a UM-ND Rose Bowl rematch last week.
Well, Herbstreit's making up for his comments from earlier this year
Mark May: oxygen thief. He should be disembowled with a wooden spoon.
We're gonna get screwed. Our only hope is the computers -- they won't be listening to all the crap on CBS/ESPN/etc. Unfortunately, that might not be enough. Oh well, it was great until that Arkansas guy dropped the punt -- what was that guy thinking?
All polls are gay. Fans should refuse to support polls. Sadly, it seems like a lot of college football fans actaully REVEL in these shams, and the ridiculous carnival they create. There are no polls in the NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA. College football is an absurd beauty contest, and the BCS system is an embarrassment to the great athletes who play the games.
I do think a team that doesn't win its conference shouldn't play for a national championship (Nebraska and Oklahoma, in particular.) However, since Michigan [or insert rematcher here] would be able to avenge its loss and therefore force a de facto tie for the Big Ten title, I don't have a problem with it. If UM wins they'll be equal again, which couldn't be said for Nebraska or Oklahoma.
anybody check out the status of the espn.com vote for who should go?
i sure would've loved to see all those blue states during the last presidential election!!!
ohioans are clearly scared shitless to play us again.
i just wish i were more confident facing smith, ginn, gonzalez, et al for the third time in 15 months...
Bad job by Lloyd. He didnt have to campaign, but he was really not elequent at all. But Meyer is a flat out embarassment.
Florida was loving a rematch in the national championship in 1996. And now, not so much. Speaking of levels of hell, which level did Dante say should be reserved for hypocrits?
And yeah, Brian Cook is a f'ing badass for getting up this post lickity split like he did. Either that or he's simply just as obsessed as everyone posting here. We're lucky to have him on our side.
Of course you don't need to win your conference to play for the national championship.
Nebraska lost the Big XII championship game (and gave up 62 points!) in '01 and played for the BCS crown.
Oregon got royally screwed by the BCS that year.
...really he does point too much.
...should read 'to much'
...no, I had it right...'too much'
All Florida fans who think it would be an injustice if they don't go to Glendale are dirty F'ING HYPOCRITES! It's called 1996. Florida loses the last game of their season, on the road, to their bitter rival, by 3 points! However, they got the "do over" and won their only National Title in the rematch against FSU. Ironically, OSU was a splendid 1-loss team 1996 who didn't get a chance to play FSU in 1996. That bit of history alone makes me want to see Michigan get the same chance. WHY AREN'T ANY OF THOSE ESPN FUCKS BRINGING UP 1996??
Also, it would probably hasten the end of the goofy BCS if Michigan is given the rematch. The SEC would demand a playoff, and isn't that what we ALL want anyway???
Awesome. Nice work Funky.
and you know what?! just you wanna know what?!
damn straight.
CAUP, I'm with you at this point. This is completely f-ing absurd. I don't get it, 24 hours ago NOBODY was talking about Florida getting a shot over Michigan. Why can't we just use our eyes here? I really think we'd give Florida's offense fits, the front seven is so ferocious and fast and all that. I think we match up well with anybody.
Also, if Michigan was better than Florida on 12/1, then it's better than Florida on 12/2.
So what happens if FL goes and FL beats OSU? How about if they just put in as good a showing or better than Michigan did? Then will the incessant whining from Ann Arbor finally die down?
I'll make a fair deal with you - FL does as good or better than Mich. against OSU, then you quit your boo-hooing, FL gets stomped and I'll say that you were right...deal? Or does it feel better to just sit here and pretend to be victimized.
And if you just want to sit and bitch, doesn't that make you just like Urban?
can anyone think of another person whose first name is urban? what is up with that.
UM CAUP-
1996 was before the BCS, my friend. In fact, it was one of the reasons the BCS was put in place.
Now do you like the BCS, or do you agree with Urban. If you like it, then FL should play OSU for the NC. If you don't, then what are you harshing on Urban Meyer for?
Yay! Florida trolls! Awesome!
Yeah, right, troll. But nobody has taken me up yet...
wha?,
Point out where I "harshed" on Meyer specifically. Hey, you want me to "harsh" on that douchebag? Here goes: he's already whined more the past month than anybody. I suppose when the BCS sends his team to glendale, and it WILL, he'll suddenly be a big fan of the BCS. He's a goddamn hypocrite. All Gator fans are hypocrites. The Wolverines would crush, CRUSH, the Gators. But whatever. If I were in your shoes I would insist on Florida getting its shot. I'm just pissed that McFadden hurt his ankle in the 1st quarter. Kinda like McGahee fucking his knee up in the title game against OSU. God really must be a Buckeye, because he gifted them that title 2002, and now he's gifting them a cupcake (yeah that right a CUPCAKE) in Glendale. Florida WILL lose by 20 to OSU.
Mr. or Ms. Gator-type person:
I pretty much agree with the no-rematch crowd. The game was in Columbus this year, bad luck for us, we lost, now we play the second-most important game of the season against someone else.
So I think Florida should go. But Florida is not the second-best team in the country. Florida is not the third-best team in the country. Not tonight, not against South Carolina, not against Vanderbilt, not in any of your games. Your special teams would be great but you can't kick FG, your defense is very good but not great, your offense is mediocre. Once in a while, gimmicks are great. All the time, they are for inferior teams.
Ohio State is going to destroy you. They'll be favored by 9 and win by at least twice that. So I'd look for another bet to make.
and wha?, if it makes you feel any better, when your crappy team DOES play on January 8th, I will be the loudest one in the room cheering GO GATORS!!
I created my own "unbiased" computer ranking algorithm last week, based entirely on wins and losses. Based on my results, Michigan and Florida are going to be neck-and-neck in the computers tomorrow evening.
My rankings have Penn State in the top 25, at #22, and Central Michigan at #26, so that might help out Michigan's strength of schedule somewhat, with wins against #6, #7, #22 and #26.
1. Ohio State 73.000
2. Michigan 66.920
3. Florida 66.670
4. Boise State 65.000
5. Louisville 49.330
6. Wisconsin 48.360
7. Notre Dame 33.750
8. LSU 31.500
9. Auburn 20.080
10. West Virginia 17.640
11. Oklahoma 15.540
12. USC 14.750
13. Wake Forest 14.170
14. Arkansas 10.420
15. Rutgers 9.820
16. Tennessee 9.250
17. Hawaii 3.910
18. Virginia Tech 2.730
19. TCU 0.090
20. Brigham Young - 6.170
21. Texas - 8.550
22. Penn State - 9.820
23. California - 20.910
24. Navy - 27.550
25. Texas A&M - 29.820
26. Central Michigan - 37.850
OK, so y'all believe that OSU will beat us. I got your point. Now, will you put your money where your mouth is? If for some reason UF does what Michigan couldn't will be happy where you are, rather than talking all puffed-up about a team that you haven't played playing a team that you lost to?
UM CAUP -
Cool. Thanks for your support. I think you'll probably have more to smile about than you might believe right this second.
ftb -
That's weird, everyone was spouting off the same kind of rhetoric right before the Ark. and USC games today...are you really so sure that you're really so sure?
As I said, I'm OK with the Rose Bowl right now. It's where we should go.
I'm only sorry that the team that should go to the title game this year is so weak.
It's true that anything's possible. But Florida beating OSU this year would be like Penn State beating Michigan. Someday, it's gotta happen, but first there are going to be a lot of losses.
OSU is better than Florida at every position except safety. There are some ties but one position is a complete wipeout: QB. You're gonna get rolled.
If Florida is only a 9-point underdog to tOSU I'm going to liquidate my 401(k) and bet it all on the Buckeyes. Florida will be lucky to score 14 points and will probably get 35-40 hung on it. In fact, I'll say 38-14 right now.
Whatever Florida does against OSU won't be comparable to Michigans game.
It won't be in the deafening horseshoe.
It won't be on a total joke surface.
But most of all Florida will get waxed by a lot more than 3 points.
ftb -
Well, I guess we're going to have to wait. Who knows, they may put Mich (I don't use UM - that's for Ole Miss)in the ND game and kill the BCS system for good - not an unpleasent thought.
Any given saturday, my friend, any given saturday.
wha? If your boys do go, I relly hope you're right and they make it a good game and WIN. As we all should know by now, anything can happen.
It seems like everyone on TV is stumping for your team, so I've already resigned myself to the fact that Michigan is going to get the short straw tomorrow. God, we wer SO CLOSE to getting that rematch. It was all falling into place, much to the dismay of the Buckeyes, who DO fear a rematch on a neutral field, then, then... Fish has a brain fart and you're godamn gimmicky team wins in the dream is over...
Sigh.
These florida folk aren't messing around anymore. Seriously..
http://nothingilluminated.blogsp...tion-
drama.html
You just won the argument, Gator. The thought of having to play ND again means I'll be spending the rest of the night barfing.
But: UM was UM way before Ole Miss was.
go michigan!
uhhh..meant to write "your" ..."and" the dream is over...
it' late.
The last 2 weeks were a terrible, cruel prank on Michigan fans. Just cruel.
ftb -
Mich was the original, but I have to live with the Rebel mother&^%*#$r's.
UM CAUP -
W's (wins or women) are the same to me - I'll take it any way I can get it.
It's too damn late for this; good luck in the polls. Peace out.
Really? The Chippewas at #26?
I can't even believe this is an issue. This system is laughable. Broken is an understatement. USC loss exposed every remaining weakness in the BCS. If Michigan doesn't get the rematch, well...
Lloyd's interview on ESPN: http://michigansportscenter.blog...heir-
cases.html
I think the deciding factor is who sided with who during the civil war...
Oh and what is up with the late seasons? If Michigan didn't finish up two weeks ago, there WOULD NOT BE AN ARGUMENT ON WHO GOES.
And....if Florida gets creamed by OSU after all their whining and bitching and moaning to get "their shot" (even though anyone with eyes can see they SUCK) then Florida will join Nebraska on my permanent SHIT LIST.
So Gators, take your gift, don't hit the bed on 1/8, and get the hell off this blog.
jesus..that should read "shit the bed..."
(time for me to hit the bed)
I'll leave with this:
A vote for the rematch is a vote to dissolve the BCS...
REMATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I digress (with pride): we go because I love the school. That should be enough right?
Well from what I'm hearing on the news it would seem that Florida being the last team to strut their stuff in front of the voters eyes, will be going to the national championship game. This being despite the fact that they are a far less talented team than Michigan but if all of Florida is forced to find out how badly OSU and Michigan outmatch them on Jan 8th so be it. Herby actually said something quite intelligent on SportsCenter to the effect of "Don't vote for whether or not you want a rematch vote for the number two team in the country.". While I do believe no one in this country will heed this most excellent advice I do believe we will have the last laugh and perhaps a ridiculously high preseason ranking. Oh and if we lose to USC in the Rose bowl there will be only shame and a middle of the road preseason ranking.
by the by a quick Chris Fowler quote
"If there were to be a Michigan vs. Florida game Michigan would be the favorite by six points.".
I'm really starting to get pissed off about this. We're going to start rewarding teams who "deserve" things becuase they play in this mythical super conference? Bullshit. The system says put the 2 best teams in the game, and we happen to be on that list. This is a complete and total joke.
I could have lived with USC getting in. But this is too much. Florida will get crushed. I guess the bright side to that is that maybe then we'll be able to put all the OMG! SEC! crap to rest. Ugh.
Here's the telling point. If there was a 4 team playoff, where it was 1/4 and 2/3, with the winners playing each other, this comment thread would be pure elation over the prospect of playing Florida instead of SC. Because everybody here knows we'd beat Florida (not that I don't think we'd beat SC, I just happen to think that we match up even better with Florida).
Two things.
1. If UF passes us thanks to the shameless campaigning of CBS, Urban Meyer and 95% of ESPN's talking heads, I will be rooting for OSU. No way to I want to see an overrated team from an overrated conference beat a Big Ten team for the MNC.
2. Arguing for a return to the old days of "Rose Bowl or bust" is stupid. Our recruiting would fall faster than Fulmer during insulin shock. What's next? Demanding a return to the pre-BCS days is like demanding the return of black & white TV. Then again, B&W has some merit because Verne Lundquist in HD is a crime against humanity.
The only time I ever rooted for anything below the Mason Dixon line....Go Florida and bring all your confederate flag supporting redneckian fans out to the desert.....
Did Meyer really just say (paraphrase) "I want to congratulate Arkansas and the Gators on one of the best games college football has seen this year?"
Really? What page is the "option pitch to the defensive lineman" on in the UF playbook? Because I think "turn around and one hand a punt" is page 129 in the Arkansas book.
Back and forth-ish? Maybe a little... "one of the best"? Fuck. No.
What a dick.
Tony:
I believe he meant to say, "One of the best SEC games of the year." Remember, those were the SEC's two best teams we got to see. It's just assumed that therefore it was the best game of the year (since the SEC could quite easily compete in the NFL). Really it was a clash of football titans, such as MSU v. Minnesota. I could hear the fear all the way from Columbus. Or maybe it was laughter, and a big sigh of relief. Hard to tell.
A rematch only hurts Ohio State. The only reason the first game was close was due to three turnovers. If Michigan wins by one in a rematch does that prove that they're better?
Michigan may be better than Florida, but that doesn't mean they deserve another shot. Florida played the toughest schedule in the country and got hosed at Auburn.
Move on Michigan fans. You had Bo looking down for inspiration the first time. Don't exhume him for another.
My response to:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/co...mark&
id=2684345
Please stop this propaganda.
The 2nd best team goes to the national championship. Instead of talking about schedules talk about head to head strengths? QB, RB, WR, OL, DL, CB,LB!
Who would you take on a neutral field, between the Gators and the Wolverines?
I thought so! ;)
GO BLUE!
This is making me laugh uncontrollably.
Genius.
Michigan may be better than Florida, but that doesn't mean they deserve another shot.
YES IT DOES!
A couple things to get out of the way. I'm a die-hard Michigan fan, so of course I want us to play OSU in AZ. Most years I actually do like the BCS -- maybe it's just reaction to the way '97 ended, I don't know.
But, what sucks this season is that Florida had a GREAT season. Michigan had a GREAT season. Nobody can deny either of those facts. Instead of comparing these two great teams and their seasons, people are going to vote based on whether they want a rematch. That just doesn't seem right to me.
No matter what happens, I hope everybody is rooting AGAINST tosu. Normally I root for the Big 10 in all OOC games, but not for a national championship. Go Gatolvines!
UM CAUP:
"The SEC would demand a playoff, and isn't that what we ALL want anyway???"
Since you asked...no. I don't want a playoff. I have a good time going to bowl games every season and wouldn't trade it for a lame playoff which will in all likelyhood result in illegitimate Cinderella "National Titles" on a regular basis.
Ahem.
"Sided with WHOM during the Civil War"
Sorry, force of habit. I don't mean to insult your education from a public school.
I'm tired of hearing Urban Meyer preach schedule strength. Numbers can prove anything when played with. Since I had nothing better to do, I did a little number crunching of my own for strength of schedule.
While Florida slightly edges Michigan in direct opponent's win-loss record (.580 to .579), it was pretty interesting to see how their opponents stacked up such a record.
The opponents-opponents record (combined record of opponents of Florida's opponents) was a .518 for Florida as compared to .526 for Michigan. This also included 15 D1-AA schools that Florida's opponents faced as opposed to only six on the Michigan side.
Since a D1-AA win over a D1-A school is very rare, I assumed that each school would have gone 0-11 in D1-A play (a little bit of a stretch I know) and recalculated records. Michigan's opponents-opponents record then dropped to .454, which seems significant until you see that Florida's same calculation dropped all the way to .419.
Urban Meyer is lucky that he can talk SOS when votes are due so soon. If voters could see the whole picture, it wouldn't help Florida's argument.
By the way, the SEC, WAC, Sun Belt, ACC, and C-USA champs all played D1-AA opponents. What a joke.
http://espn.go.com/
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf
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V O T E !
I'm more than a little tired of CAUP and others I can't think of right now making the bald assertion that us Buckeyes "fear" the rematch. Nothing could be further from the truth. If that's the way it works out, then so be it, but I think the motivation factor in that case actually favors OSU - Troy et. al. are sure to be salty that they're being asked to do again what they've already done, only "for real" this time.
The layoff between the games also favors OSU - our defensive breakdowns from Nov. 18 are more easily fixed than your inability to stop the spread attack - unless you guys can find two or three more competent DBs between now and Jan. 8...plus find a way to make Chris Wells less talented and/or figure out a way to make Mike Hart faster in the open field. That'd be a two-or-three TD swing right there.
Plus, y'all keep going on about the "neutral field" - what makes you think it'll be neutral? We've been buying tickets for two weeks now, so unless there's some UM-aligned ticket brokers out there that have been holding back huge blocks just for you guys, the crowd in Glendale's going to be hostile to whoever ends up going - not exactly like the 'Shoe, but still.
And all this noise about the turf...my god, just stop whining, please. Could it be possible that our athletes are just better that yours right now? We didn't have any more experience with the Ohio Stadium turf before The Game than you did - pregame walk-throughs, and that's it. If your footing would be better on some other surface, then so would ours, unless the laws of physics somehow apply differently to Wolverines than to Buckeyes. Not to mention the totally absurd notion that football players anywhere, at any level of competition, somehow can account within their split-second, instinctual reactions for the possibility of slipping.
Nice....and completely true except for mistaking heaven for hell.
I would have rather seen Michigan play LSU in the Rose Bowl. LSU's offense would have been a better test for UM's defense than USC. UM always seems to struggle against an option-style QB. Would have been interesting test against SEC "speed."
Oh well, we'll probably sack Booty 7 times.
Jesus, the irrational optimism of college sports fans never ceases to amuse me. Pray tell, why do you think the results in Glendale will be any different than 5 of the last 6 years? OSU has the better players (by a slim margin) , the better coach (by a landslide), along with total psychological ownership of UM. Oh wait-- the grass. Well never mind then. I'm sure you'll reverse all that and cruise to an easy victory (snort). Christ, the so-called "game of the century" had more of a ND-OSU Fiesta feel to it until tOSU gifted those unforced turnovers. Give Florida their chance and be silently thankful that you won't be humiliated twice in one year to your hated rivals.
I'm sorry guys, but just like it was a trravesty that Oklahoma went in 2004, they didn't win their own conference and that rationale alone should keep you out of the title game. This "I beat this guy who beat this guy who beat this guy" crap is useless.
"Comfortable win over wonderful, tested 11-1 Wisconsin team."
You're kidding right? Wisconsin played no one the entire season.
From this morning's Ft. Lauderdale-based Sun Sentinel newspaper: "BCS analyst Jerry Palm believes the Gators need at least 15 voters in the Harris poll to move Florida ahead of Michigan and five in the coaches' poll to do the same."
Wha?
You have a deal. As much as I hate to say it, tOSU will kick your butts.
As much as I want U of M to go, the TV guys (nobody has done as much to rig a Florida election as Gary Danielson since Jamess Baker) have decided Florida "should" go even though they think U of M would win head to head. One silver lining to consider.....no matter who wins the vote, there is going to be a lot of anger at the BCS. unless the Gators are chosen and put on a good show in Glendale...in which case I told Wha? I'll shut up. But I won't have to.....
*** I'm more than a little tired of CAUP and others I can't think of right now making the bald assertion that us Buckeyes "fear" the rematch. Nothing could be further from the truth ***
Keep saying that and maybe sometime you'll actually believe it.
As for "unforced errors", Michigan committed a number of them in the game too. Crable's hit was just as much an unforced error as that first lousy snap. Breaston slipping on 4th and 10 was just as much an unforced error as that second lousy snap. And the pick wasn't an unforced error.
Here's Florida's schedule this year:
September 2 Southern Miss W 34-7
September 9 UCF W 42-0
September 16 at Tennessee W 21-20
September 23Kentucky W 26-7
September 30 Alabama W 28-13
October 7 LSU W 23-10
October 14 at No. 11 Auburn L 27-17
October 21 Bye
October 28 Georgia W 21-14
November 4 at Vanderbilt W 25-19
November 11 South Carolina W 17-1
November 18 Western Carolina W 62-0
November 25 at Florida State W 21-14
December 2 Arkansas W 38-28
2 things to note: rivalries are preceeded by cupcakes/byes and the road games are nicely spread out.
Now Michigan's schedule:
September 2 Vanderbilt W 27-7
September 9 Central Michigan W 41-17
September 16 at Notre Dame W 47-21
September 23 Wisconsin W 27-13
September 30at Minnesota W 28-14
October 7 Michigan State W 31-13
October 14 at Penn State W 17-10
October 21 Iowa W 20-6
October 28 Northwestern W 17-3
November 4 Ball State W 34-26
November 11 at Indiana W 34-3
November 1 Ohio State L 42-39
Florida's schedule is generally rated higher than Michigan's, but wasn't it more managable? Look at the 6 game stretch from the Notre Dame game to the Iowa game: no byes, no cupcakes and 3 road games.
As much as this pains me to admit this it seems there is ground swell of emotion for FL to make it to the NC game. And the worst part is our coaches, fanbase and our conf commish will not whine and cry if we are left out so everybody will be happy that BCS worked
If this happens, i wish that FL gets destroyed by tO$U, and they will be. What a joke of a system and so we will get shaffted again.
To tO$U fans who come here to argue, please GO SHOVE AN EGG UP YOUR ASS, we don;t need your opinion. GO enjoy your wins, instead of gloating.
Very funny stuff, tongue in cheek I can only hope, unfortunately I think many UM kool-aid drinkers will take this as the truth. Oh, we "buttsuckers" could have been 3rd in the Big 3/Little 8 if we had Wisconsin's sorry schedule.
mk, UM had Northwestern, Ball State, and Indiana leading up to tOSU, and you're going to say that UF's schedule was spread out in a more reasonable way, making it easier? Also, I'd suggest to anyone who thinks UF gets blown out by tOSU to remember things like, this year's World Series, or perhaps the 2002 Miami/tOSU game. You play because you don't know who will win- of course, we know who would win tOSU/UM, considering we already saw it (sorry, couldn't resist). At any rate, we'll know at 8 p.m.- screw the system, bring on the playoffs.
2 Thoughts:
1. I don't see a single noncon game on Florida's schedule that stacks up to Michigan's beat down of CMU, let alone Michigan's beatdown of ND. (Yes, I'm counting the FSU game as less impressive than the CMU game).
2. I think this should be settled a matchup between the mascots, winner take all. To make it fair though, the weights have to be the same. Does anybody have any doubt that a ~20 pound Wolverine would demolish a ~20 gator? Yeah, me neither.
Does anyone know what time the coaches and harris polls are released today?
I believe FOX has a "selection special" set up, so I doubt they're released before then. So I'd say 7:30 at the earliest.
And so help me God if they fuck up my TiVo-ing of Family Guy, Michigan better get in the title game.
Let's assume FLA is playing osu in MNC
and somehow wins. We play USC in Rose Bowl and kill them by 3 touchdowns. Would AP poll put us as #1?
Who else can feel the earth trembling as the giant herds of anti-Michigan sheep scurry from the USC bandwagon to the Florida bandwagon?
It's funny....Michigan was #2 two weeks ago (after having finished their schedule). How short the voters' memories are.
I calculated the strength of schedule:
1. Illinois - 63.415
2. Stanford - 67.238
3. Connecticut - 69.199
4. Michigan - 70.084
5. Minnesota - 72.134
6. Florida - 74.279
7. South Carolina - 78.599
8. Arizona - 79.779
9. Cincinnati - 80.923
10. Indiana - 82.160
11. Mississippi State - 84.571
12. Kentucky - 86.663
13. USC - 87.165
14. Iowa - 89.291
15. Penn State - 90.316
Michigan is ahead of Florida, and 6 of the top 15 teams are from the Big Ten, since they all had to face Michigan and Ohio State, while only four reside in the SEC, since they faced more division I-AA opponents, which artificially inflated their records. Face it - the SEC was overrated all season long, and Florida did not have a stronger schedule than Michigan. When you factor in how dominant Michigan looked all season long, while Florida limped through much of the season, this shouldn't even be close.
Hey, why don't we just give OSU a bye and let Michigan and Florida play for 2nd place?
I, personally, would rather kick the crap out of Florida to shut their whiny little mouths than play OSU again.
MICHIGAN VS. FLORIDA!!!
Who's with me?
Kevin, my thoughts exactly.
I know you're just trying to make a point and it's partly in jest, but this list really makes you come across as a smug jerk, especially the turf comment.
We're screwed. Florida is ahead in the coaches poll:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ra...nkings?
pollId=2
Afraid it's over. Florida is going to Glendale.
But just for the sake of conversation, why not compare Florida and Michigan unit by unit? I propose the following:
Quarterback-Advantage Michigan
Running Back-Advantage Michigan
Receiver-Advantage Michigan
Offensive Line-Advantage Michigan
Defensive Line-Advantage Michigan
Linebacker-Advantage Michigan
Defensive Back-Advantage Florida
Harvin-Advantage Florida
Kicking-Advantage Michigan
Oh well, I guess when in a future year, SEC second place Florida is looking to play for the MNC against SEC first place LSU, Gary Danielson is going to argue against it. This is a crock of shit.
Florida has Tim Tebow and only Jesus Christ himself is above him in confederate/rebel land of florida...Bring on the gators......
Don't forget our 21-14 squeaker over decrepit Florida State, sir.
They're not going to Glendale, either.
Uhhhh....
Confederates? Lemme send that comment to your Quarterback recruit down at Texas High.
Florida's schedule was much tougher under ANY stretch of the imagination. Conference champions - while you are.... NOT.
Go Ball State. Thanks for all you did for this great country of ours....
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