This is all a vast right wing conspiracy. Keep up the good fight, Brian.


Gravatar I'm sure BHGP won't hold it against you. They seem to be pretty cool and a mistake is a mistake.


Gravatar Yes, yes you are.

And you reinforce the entire "guys from Michigan are paranoid pricks" stereotype.


Gravatar Who cares what Iowa thinks?


Gravatar "And you reinforce the entire 'guys from Michigan are paranoid pricks' stereotype" says the guy called "blueballs"


Gravatar It was not at all clear to me that the post was a joke. The 'joke' appears to rely on knowing the links were misrepresented? Honestly, the real stuff WVU people are putting out there is much funnier.


Gravatar It's all good, Brian. Your post was in jest, too. Right? *wink*


Gravatar Ah, too bad. I'll still be reading Brian's reaction at least once per week.


Gravatar NO SOUP FOR YOU BRIAN, ONE YEAR!


Gravatar This is like a seventeen-hour Adam Sandler movie.


Gravatar eh.


Gravatar Brian should've shredded the evidence. Did I just really say that?


Gravatar I think BHGP shredded Brian's dignity.


Gravatar Naughty moose!


Gravatar It's all good. As I posted down in the previous thread, we need to be on the attack. No more playing passive. No more Lloydball. This is a new era of Michigan football. We need not pick fights. But if you mess with the wolverine you get the claw.


Gravatar I have heard about the Michigan guys are smart stereotype; Michigan guys are successful stereotype; Michigan guys have big schlongs stereotype. Heck, even my deaf great-grandmother has heard the Michigan guys are descendants of a lost superior alien race stereotype.

But the "paranoid pricks" stereotype? Gee whiz. Under no circumstances could that be a random statement pulled from someone's ass, so it must be true.


Gravatar Wait. You thought they were serious?


Gravatar It was an entrapment I say! Sue the ba$tards for damage to reputation. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?! Hell no ... who is with me? Go go go go go!!!


Gravatar I'd hate to get into it with you again, Brian, but there is no way you're the stupidest.


Gravatar I have no idea how you could have thought the Iowa post was serious but I'm glad you did. Much funnier that way.

Now what we need is to convince the Iowa guys that Brian's retraction is a spoof.


Gravatar Does anyone know how firm Marcus Witherspoon's commitment is? Scout says that Fitz is happy with RR.


Gravatar we were *not* aware of that, dude...

or (the more reactionary)

"we just bought that f**king [coach] last week... you f**k with our [coach], we f**k with your f**king coach...


Gravatar I'm rubber, you're glue...


Gravatar Hey Brian,
Fuck em all, who cares. Why are all these other schools preoccupied with U-M. Just a bunch of haters, you still rock dude.


Gravatar ooops, I killed a kitten over the BHGP post. Bastards!


Gravatar Al Sharpton is going to call for you to resign.


Gravatar fuck iowa.


Gravatar seriously, i just met her, and i
sure want to fuck iowa.


Gravatar Brian still has shell shock from the coaching search


Gravatar F@#$ IOWA, everyone is always "just joking" after getting their ass kicked and embarassed. And hey blueballs shut up!!!!!!!!!!!


Gravatar cut Brian some slack - this holy war with west fucking virginia is taking its toll on all our psyches...


moar funny pictures


Gravatar iowa is just jealous because their s&c coach isnt rumored to own a pack of wolves


Gravatar Did we swap commenters with ND Nation and no one told me?


Gravatar Rest assured, we never took it personally (or seriously) to begin with. Cheers, you paranoid bastard.


Gravatar that link was supposed to show just the paranoia lolcat

oh well


Gravatar Cheers, you paranoid bastard.

Just because he's paranoid, it doesn't mean that you're not out to get him.


Gravatar baconpants:

right click on pic> properties> copy&paste.

this is the best one:

http://icanhascheezburger.files....ry-cat- snow.jpg


Gravatar let's try again

http://icanhascheezburger.files....aranoid- cat.jpg


Gravatar No worries Brian. Keep those razors sharpened. Agree 100% on the notion of no more Mr Nice Guy--ever.(cue Alice Cooper music)

@Turquoise Testicles: remember, "a Paranoid is one who possesses all the facts" (Wm. S. Burroughs)


Gravatar thanks big gay heart

i too am a naughty moose retard sometimes when it comes to using the internets


Gravatar uber self pwnage [shift +1]. Oh well, it was funny to see this unfold.


Gravatar Color me shocked that Brian wasn't joking himself.

As for everyone else...have you ever read BHGP? I understand if you find "humor" to beneath your delicate sensibilities, but they (much like every other f'n blog in the universe) like to make fun of people. And if you bothered to read a week of it, you'd see they make fun of Iowa more than any other school.

It's called having fun. Look into it sometime, people railing on against "haters" and "fuck iowa".


Gravatar My apathy toward Iowa knows no bounds.


Gravatar baconpants:

the internets is srs biz


Gravatar Re: BHGP

cant compare to MGoBlog, but they do (sometimes) have some hilarious shit like the infamous, "If Big Ten Teams Were Cars" post


Gravatar Dex
I wasn't just directing it at Iowa, but it seems to be coming from all over the place. Iowa's not that bad, a good buddy of mine went there, so there you have it.


Gravatar Just a lurker, but big gay heart has been cracking my sh*t up today. The michigan man post in earlier thread still makes me smile.


Gravatar whenever someone says the word "hawkeye" i think of a vagina, only its not a regular vagina, its a vagina with a beak and a mean streak. wierd.


Gravatar Wait, YOU weren't joking? That was the most lighthearted and colorful "shotgunning" you've ever given; I thought for sure it was in jest. I found the two pieces to be a hilarious exchange.

BHGP does outstanding work, I think of them like a slightly angrier EDSBS focusing on one school.


Gravatar @Mick

The only people who are actually "haters" at the moment are citizens and fans of West Virginia. Everyone else is just kinda...there. I mean, I don't think there's a ton to this story, which is why I've advocated a wait and see approach. But if there really is something there, then it's pretty not cool of RR. And people from other schools who point that out aren't "haters" as much as they're just telling the truth.


Gravatar See? That's what I'm (inaudibly) talking about?


Gravatar Still don't believe the BHGP thing was a joke -- only after the fact when Brian noticed and decimated the post.


Gravatar tubauberalles:

thanks man. im just trying to make the world a better place for all the little boys and girls.


Gravatar You realize how pathetic all this "ohhhhh snap iowa is so beneath us1!!!1!" shit looks, right? It's a joke. A story intended to be funny. That included asterisks stating **might not be the truth at the bottom of the article. As in, we are not serious, this is a joke and everything in this post is a joke.

It isn't about Iowa fans getting uppity and thinking they are on par with the mighty Michigan or something batshit retarded theory like that.

And yet people wonder why everyone else in the country thinks Michigan fans are arrogant, whiny, and a terrible burden to deal with. This is the kind of shit storm I'd expect from Buckeyes when someone dare make a little fun of their program.


Gravatar It's a struggle, bgh, so pop yourself a cold one. You saved a soul today.


Gravatar @AAb
Right on dude, we'll have to wait and see. Integrity at U-M is pretty important to me too.
Hopefully this will work it self out and just go away.


Gravatar @Ben

My god, are you functionally retarded? Have you ever read BHGP? Everything they write is a joke. On purpose. Humor. Fascinating concept.


Gravatar (quietly slipping a $20 into dex's coat pocket)


Gravatar WfuckingV AD file clerk:

http:// icanhascheezburger.files....02853990000.jpg


as you will see, I have been on icanhazcheezburger since my last post

god I am lame


Gravatar @dex

Woh! big fella. Ease on up. It's clear how you equate all of this with Michigan arrogance (!???!) ... actually.. really?

We're all friends here in our hatred of Ohio State.


Gravatar Dex,

Yes, I'm retarded. Obviously. Good post.


Gravatar Kirk Ferentz is hiring some guy named Harold Hill to get the Hawkeyes ready for next season using the "Think System".


Gravatar Mozeltov(I think that's how you spell it) yvgeni!!!


Gravatar p.s. still don't think it was a joke.


Gravatar i dont like to joke around when it comes to college football blogging.


Gravatar [sending a drink to Dex]

[sending a drink to Brian]

[sending a drink to Ben's mom]


Gravatar Wow....finally watched the Tila Tequila video...that's like the male version of my ex....wow...

Tila's pretty hot, but she's no match for my favorite alumna:

http://popoholic.com/images/lucy...lucy-liu- 01.jpg

YES


Gravatar "Never mix satire with good clip art."

-- Dilbert


Gravatar @Ben

Ok, so answer me, do you read BHGP?

I do. As much as I read mgoblog.

Over the past 6 monthsish I've been reading, I can recall one serious post. And it was about Iowa football players committing crimes, sex assault I believe, and they felt it was inappropriate to joke.

Every other post has been humor oriented.

So, your theory, is that all of a sudden, BHGP decided they wanted to run some sort of journalistic, serious minded, hit piece on Rich Rodriguez?

Or..

Was it a joke? Hmmm...


Gravatar By the way, Brian is wrong about something:

"I should have known better, as rampant stupidity is most certainly not a part of BHGP's usual repertoire."

Right below the Ayatollah, there was a stick-man Sean Sonderleiter. In other words, stupidity is pretty much our entire repertoire.


Gravatar It is days like today that make me consider driving my car over random fans at the golf course before games to thin the herd of ridiculous M fans.


Gravatar Don't fight the urge, dex.


Gravatar Eh, I wouldn't sweat Brian's retracted post too much.

We're WOLVERINES for Christ's sake.

We're SUPPOSED to be vicious and intemperate.

That's who we are, that's what we do.


Gravatar do you think my unintentional celibacy/code red sexual depression is in any related to my failure to recognize sexual assualt as inapropriate?


Gravatar lol i meant joking about sexual assualt as inapropriate. im not mike tyson, i swear.


Gravatar @Dex
you make me think of that Bud commercial where the guy keeps saying "dude".
So, that being said, dude relax, we got it. you're getting to worked up with us man. Say something else, please.


Gravatar I'm guess it was a joke, BHGB, is a very lighthearted, humorous blog, one that I have personally read once or twice.

Jebus of BHGB guestposted on EDSBS, when Orson was on vacation and came up with this gem:http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2007/ 12/07/sorry-charlie/

Based on that post, the big ten teams as cars post, and their hatred of FAT charlie, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was a joke.

Asswipe Jay Bilas is on espn right now, wonder if during the Duke/FSU game he will take some shots as UM?


Gravatar Hawkeye State is definitely not using this to his/their advantage.





WHY NOT?





Does it have to do with the secret inexplicably-great Caucasian wide receiver factory?


Gravatar "just joking" sounds like a response to being called out. They were calling RichRod a DickRod, pure and simple. It was feeble, but pretty hard to pass off as satire.


Gravatar In other words, stupidity is pretty much our entire repertoire.

This is entirely true. In the article below stick figure Sondy, our offensive coordinator tries to seduce our quarterback. That's stupid even by our own stupid standards.


Gravatar Link to "journalist" who wrote the shredgate article. At the beginning he states that they don't know what was in his office but they know something was in there. As I listened it sounded less and less likely that anything big will come out of this.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/ ..._all_about.html


Gravatar sorry forgot the space
http://www.everydayshouldbesatur...urday.com/2007/ 12/07/sorry-charlie/


Gravatar hey, when, in the back of your mind you think your coach may not be the 'squeeky cleanest' guy in town, this sort of thing is bound to get your craw.

those seeds, they've been sewn.


Gravatar "We know he did sumthin bad. We don't know just what he done, but I can tell you it sure was awful. He's a mean one, that Rodriguez feller."


Gravatar TennBlue
I take it you listened to the interview.


Gravatar RichRod done brok ENIAC before harr left them parts!


Gravatar lane:

that would make sense, if it was true. what about the sweater douche? a proven cheater on numerous levels (in addition to seeming like the sort of guy who cruises rest areas looking for sexy time) and yet the bucknuts exist in blithely unapologetic world where they are the cleanest program this side of the afterlife.


Gravatar If Tila Tequila won't apologize for her existence then Brian shouldn't apologize for thinking something wasn't satirical when it was.


Gravatar hi muskat rebellion. i live in cincinnati and think you look like the man, the myth, the legend, mccauly culkin. who am i?


Gravatar @FlightSci

I sent you a friend request on facebook, add me if you please.

Side note - anyone think we have a chance in hoops against the Illini, they aren't that good.


Gravatar I take it you listened to the interview.
T-Roy


Actually, I posted that before I heard it, knowing that's exactly what he would say. It's a paraphrase from the two idiot escapees in "Raising Arizona."


Gravatar That was pretty much on target.


Gravatar I will not settle down. I've had a very good day and precious few opportunities to spew venom and rage at the world This is my outlet and the fools who can't appreciate the BHGPs of the world are making me cry. Who are you people? Why do you make life so boring?


Gravatar It doesn't matter if they were trolling. You did the right thing by taking the bait, developing hands, climbing up the fishing line, leaping into the boat, and shooting bullets of pure awesomeness from your gills.


Gravatar dont know if this has been posted. An RR spoof car commercial..bunch of inbred cry babies

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SwM-JWLbh5M


Gravatar Big Gay Heart was once told he looked like a squirrel. The offender then brought in a picture of a squirrel with a enormous penis to show him that he looked like said animal. Big Gay Heart also prides himself on giving the best mustache rides.


Gravatar man, you gotta lighten up. If you can't sit back and laugh at yourself anymore, you need to question how and why you've changed since you made your first post.


Gravatar Casual was that directed at me...man? If it was, then I'm sorry my internet sarcasm didn't shine through for you, man.


Gravatar musket rebellion:

i would give sweet mustache rides if i could grow a halfway decent mustache. i've got a powerful throwing arm, though.


Gravatar Dex, dude, I agree with about 98% of everything you ever write here.

But, I'm willing to bet that 99% of the Iowa haterade that was spewing about this afternoon as a result of the BHGP issue was caused because most us, myself included, DON'T read BHGP. So no, we did not realize it was a joke. I did my due diligence, poked around their site for a few minutes, and figured that it probably was meant in jest.

However, the fact that people here don't have your familiarity with BHGP doesn't make them assholes - it just means they didn't know.

The people that took the "BHGP is being assholes, that means I will rail about how uppity and assholeish the entire state of Iowa is" are dumb, and should be killed, yes.


Gravatar I just like making fun of Iowa. Nothing personal.

By the way, Iowa is only two letters away from Ohio spelled wrong. Think about that.


Gravatar That RR parody car commercial is terrible... "Show me the bread and I'll run the spread."


Gravatar big gay heart - please document this 'proven cheating'.

i'm interested.


Gravatar You've got a sweet throwing arm if they are within 10 - 20 feet. After that it is a crap shoot.


Gravatar @Mick

how'd you know I was jewish?!

Mazel Tov right back atcha!


Gravatar So, I'm texting from behind a bush outside of BHGP's house. I've got a hockey stick and a throwing star. I'm coming home now. Brian, you owe me gas money.


Gravatar ^^^now that's funny^^^


Gravatar I read Dex's blog post about Michigan and now I really understand his anger issues.

Small pee-pee.

amirite?


Gravatar @yvgeni

I didn't know actually, just seemed like the right thing to say comrade!
BTW, thanks for the correct spelling and Go Blue!!!


Gravatar My penor is small, but I don't know how you figured that out from my blog post.


Gravatar Fuck off, fuck sticks. (to no one in particular)


Gravatar fuck lions are terrified of fuck sticks.

it's true.


Gravatar Dex,

Even if I'm wrong and the BHGP post was a joke -- albeit one based on a real series of events with no apparent punchline -- it's my opinion.

You, however, are a jerk -- which is a fact.


Gravatar BBall game about to start.


Gravatar Right, the islamofascist digression wasn't a punchline. Completely serious.

I guess I'll head back to the jerkstore.


Gravatar I can see the basketball team is back to its regular form. I've watched like 4 games and have never seen them make a shot.


Gravatar This Ben v. Dex feud is the best feud these interwebs and ebays have since since the famous, anonymous v. Clarkie From Canada feud a few weeks back.

---------
basketball not looking so hot only 3 points 7 minutes into the game.


Gravatar 6 turnovers already and 12 bricks from beyond the arc... go blue


Gravatar Orlando are you seeing the game on TV?


Gravatar Scoring is highly overrated.


Gravatar yeah JHS on big ten network


Gravatar Lucky dog, I'd don't get the BTN.

Damn you Time Warner and your monopolist practices!!!!!111111one!

You have Direct tv?


Gravatar should i send Donovan Warren an invite to the Mike Barwis group? i mean he has to know about his tactics already..right?


Gravatar yep i have direct TV

when i lived in ohio time warner was awful


Gravatar HOLY SH*T WE HAVE THE LEAD


Gravatar It's David Merritt's world and we're just livin' in it!!


Gravatar that won't last...


Gravatar "when i lived in ohio time warner was awful"

Believe me nothing has changed, in fact is gotten worse since I first got it.

I wish I could get Direct TV but there is no where to put the satellite at my apartment.


Gravatar i moved this past march and thank god or else i wouldnt have been able to see half of the M games thanks to the BTN


Gravatar the barwis group is rockin orlando....


Gravatar gsimm it is excellent. i have no idea how we have so many members..they must all be lurkers


Gravatar The lead was nice while it lasted, I think we have a shot to win this game if we can make some baskets.


Gravatar if it wasnt for manny harris we would have a team of the worst shooters in the country...even with him we still might


Gravatar Unless it's a jab at the entire Mountainneer mentality, I don't really see the point of that post on the Iowa blog. It wasn't particularly good at anything or entertaining or informative or persuasive or however else you would choose to view it. It was probably a better policy to contact the writer instead of responding, however.


Gravatar Has anybody read the column by Jim Carty on mlive. One of the most outrageous one sided columns I have ever read. Makes some valid points, but rest is beyond comprehension.


Gravatar Link to that article?


Gravatar link?

down by 4 at half..not bad


Gravatar Carty: It's time for Rodriguez to apologize and pay up

is this the article to which you are referring to?


Gravatar http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/ ...of_michiga.html


Gravatar i don't mind our coach being labeled a "coldly calculating mercenary".


Gravatar Here is the link
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/ ...of_michiga.html


Gravatar It's time for Michigan to dig in it's heels and get ornery. It's time for us to be petty and vindictive for a while. Keep the meters running on those lawyers. Michigan has much deeper pockets.


Gravatar @JHS - yes...that's the one. And that's really all you need to read. Carty basically assumes filegate is true and says Rodriguez should, you know, just whip out his checkbook and pay $4M


Gravatar I'm in a cranky mood today.


Gravatar agreed TennBlue


Gravatar Is the buyout and shred-gate really hurting M's repuatation right now? can someone explain


Gravatar The reputation is now don't fuck with Michigan or coach rod. We have been too nice for way too long.


Gravatar My take on it that most people in the country really have no idea as to the soap opera going on here with WVU.

The stories initially leak out, and people who don't like Michigan use them to confirm their biases.

Others have their interest piqued, look into it further, and inevitably conclude, "Holy shit, those WVU people are completely insane."

So people see what they want to see, to a large extent. I don't see any long-term damage. If it all goes south for WVU, it could actually help us.


Gravatar Carty should have to apologize for writing such stupid columns, has anyone seen those ones he did on skiing. He was away skiing while all the RichRod interview/hire stuff went down.


Gravatar The Free Press has to cater to MSU clods, too. They eat the Carty stuff up.


Gravatar Carty is such an assweasel.


Gravatar I remember thinking last off season that Arkansas and all their drama was nuts: transfers, coaches leaving, angry parents, FOIs, etc. But this WVU stuff really takes the cake.


Gravatar cant wait to see what crazy story they come up with next


Gravatar Well, we got just enough snow to turn the grass white here in Chattaboogie. School's canceled tomorrow. There is great excitement.


Gravatar Hopefully we made some nice halftime adjustments, we're still in this thing!


Gravatar yea my school is cancled tomorrow a well, and nothing has even started yet

haha

lol


Gravatar cant wait to see what crazy story they come up with next

Ed Pastilong asks: "So tell us Rich - when did you stop beating your wife?"


Gravatar you guys should play it up.

like wrestling, fake drama is better than no drama.


Gravatar wouldn't suprise me tennblue


Gravatar I like Carty more than I like dex... dex honestly how short are you? You are such a mad person


Gravatar JHS down by 5..if they can hit some buckets we got a good shot


Gravatar When Beilien no longer has to play walk-on's look out.


Gravatar Jay Bilas thinks B-line should be fired and replace with Amaker ASAP.


Gravatar Bilas is a joke..complete joke


Gravatar @stuckinohio

Where are you in Ohio?
I'm in fairlawn (about halfway between Cleveland and Akron)


Gravatar 40 miles north of Cincinnati, almost to Dayton.


Gravatar Wilmington, the bengals used to have their pre-season camp here.


Gravatar stuckinohio have you heard of centerville? thats where im from


Gravatar Yeah, The Elks.


Gravatar I see so your on the other side of the state.

Lemme guess a bunch of Buckeye honks by you too?


Gravatar Hahaha yes, thats hilarious


Gravatar i went to the same high school as aj hawk, mike nugent and herbstreit...it was 4 years of hell


Gravatar I feel sorry for you guys. I didn't realize so many of you lived in buckstache land.


Gravatar @JHS
I'm 1 hour west of columbus. The last five years have been hell. Times are changing though. It has been very quiet the last two weeks thanks to tresselllllll.


Gravatar I get the impression that most in Buckeye land are not happy about their new bitch-master to the north.


Gravatar The Spread is very concerning to buckeye fans.


Gravatar People by me like the Browns more than the Bucks, but don't get me wrong they still love their bucks. The local sports talk guys shit on UM so much and tongue bathe OSU. The back to back beatdowns in the NC game have tought them some humility luckily. When RR was considering coaching at UM all of the hosts were like "Why would he coach at UM he is just gonna get owned by Tressel every year?"


Gravatar wonder how the buckstaches will react if we get TP


Gravatar Buckeyes still as intense dicks as they used to be? Last time I wore my M-football gear in Ohio, I guy at wal-mart spit at me. Classy bunch in Lima, for sure.


Gravatar Lima is kind of podunk.

I always wear my M gear, worst I've gotten (so far) is "Go Bucks."


Gravatar Intense is putting it lightly. I hear shit once a week or more about UM, I'm telling you the are nervous about coauch rod.


Gravatar I'm guessing the closer you get to Cow-lumbus the worse the bucks fans are.


Gravatar @jhs
Yeah but the Michigan flag still still stands tall every saturday in the fall.


Gravatar No, Lima is SUPER podunk. Home of the national four wheel jamboree show. Word to the wise, if you can't avoid Lima every day, at least make sure to be somewhere else on that weekend.

Come to think of it, that was the very weekend that guy spit at me...


Gravatar The problem with columbus is their size with no professioanl sports. tosu is all they have to live for 365 days a year.


Gravatar Agreed-- Cow-lumbus has no pro sports but is Ohio's biggest city. By me people are big into the Browns and tribe and Lebron, so its not all bucks all the time. Also a lot of Akron fans too, but they root for Akron and OSU for the most part.


Gravatar i got the always clever "michigan sucks" daily and also "why do you live here if you like michigan" how do i even respond to that one?


Gravatar Orlando Go Blue: I live in Centerville across the street from Herbstreit's sister. My kid went over to her house to babysit wearing a MICHIGAN shirt and she made her put another shirt over it to cover it up. These people need to realize that college football is supposed to be entertainment. That being said, I can't wait until UM kicks some Buckeye a**


Gravatar Any word on Spoon's visit from RR?

BTW, TP is planning visits to Oregon and LSU for fun, frolic and frequent flier miles. A few more segments, and he's got the Nano locked up.


Gravatar I think the B-ball game has just gotten out of hand, just not enough talent to compete for 40 minutes. Thanks Tommy!


Gravatar WolvinOhio- i believe it, i got kicked out of class my freshman year for wearing a Michigan shirt. dont get me wrong i love michigan but these asshats take it too far


Gravatar jay bilas says tommy is a good coach and beilien should be held accountable for this record, another great espn analyst.


Gravatar columbusis ohio's biggest city?

really, bigger then cinci, and cleveland?


Gravatar Yep C-bus is the biggest city, believe it or not.


Gravatar can they make free-throws? sheesh


Gravatar yeah but i dont count passed out people, with two teeth....

so i guess thats why i didnt think c-buss was as big


Gravatar Gotta say, no complaints about Cleveland. Good times there. Toledo too, but that doesn't count because technically we own it.


Gravatar you do know that columbus invented the tooth brush dont ya?

if it were invented anywhere else it would have been called the teeth brush


my dad told me that, he isnt a football stud, but he is still pretty cool,,,


Gravatar Anyone know what the rumor creatiing all the buzz on scouts is?


Gravatar i went to the university of toledo for a year..i thought the city was complete trash. the best part was AA was only 45 minutes away


Gravatar @ROb

I haven't heard any rumors, but I'm usually out of the loop.


Gravatar I think Toledo is a pretty decent city, been to the Toldeo Zoo a bunch of times.


Gravatar If you keep talking about Toledo I'll have to quote another John Denver song.


Gravatar tennblue, dont you do it,,, dont


Gravatar I guess that's the thing, Toledo is filthy. My wife & I do have friends there, maybe I'm biased.


Gravatar I mean shit, I live in the burbs only 15 minutes from the Detroit city limit and even I think Toledo's a shithole.


Gravatar best part about toledo was packin up and leaving


Gravatar without tony packo's toledo would be worthless


Gravatar If you want to see a shitty city go to Charleston, WV. Ghetto is a compliment, that is the trashiest city I've seen in my life, and I was born in Detroit!


Gravatar Toledo has its good points, but my most recent memory of it is my visit to the Toledo Ice House, an ice arena across the street from the GM powertrain plant. I went there to shoot a high school hockey game, and I may not go back; between the wet ice (standing water behind one goal) and the heavy gas fumes (old zamboni+poor ventilation), it wasn't a pleasant experience.

But I hear Mudhens games are fun.


Gravatar i stopped for gas in charleston..complete shit hole i didnt see a building that wasnt run down


Gravatar you know what though jhs,

when i first moved down here i thought, drving through charlestown, "man how cool" becasue this city is just inthe middle of the mountains... but now the newness has worn off and everytime i drive through there all i can see and smell are those coal mines


Gravatar Orlando

That is a very accurate description of Charleston. I was driving through on my way to Florida and was like "Holy shit, this place is trash."


Gravatar ive been to my fair shair of shitty cities but there wasn't a single nice thing about charleston


Gravatar Apparently Rivals is reporting that RIch Rod's in home with Fitzgerald was a big hit.


Gravatar What about the York, PA? The actual "Shit Towne"?

Also, Rochester, NY is urban ipecac.


Gravatar its about 5 ours from my house, so i have bene through there quite a few times... one time, gasp i had to stay there a night....


Gravatar Sorry to hear you had to stay in Charleston, Gsims, must have been a hell of a night.


Gravatar "Urban Ipecac".

Favorite of the night.


Gravatar OT but i find myself looking for stuff on Mike Barwis other than any of the coaches or players..he's that insane


Gravatar orlando i could problaby send you some notes or some stuff of mine, im sure if i go through it , ill find some stuff from barwis,,,


Gravatar maybe some clinic tapes, i know i got notes from one time i talked to him....


Gravatar yes send away if you'd like, this guy is so intense i cant get enough


Gravatar probably be the spring before i get a chance to go through all my stuff....


i bet i have 1000 clinic videos, and 10000 pages of notes from different people ive talked to over the years, its hard to remember everything i have


Gravatar You know what I find amazing about the whole RR/WVU fiaso? I have not heard one single fan response that is something like "Well, it sucks that you're leaving, Rich, and I don't like the way you've handled it, but thanks for making WVU football relevant and giving us a base to build on in the future. WVU fans need to realize that without RR, they would be absolutely nothing right now. I think the problem is that WVU has an inflated sense of its status in the college football world.

I'm from Mt. Pleasant, MI, and I remember when Brian Kelley left CMU in a questionable fashion, not coaching in the bowl game, many fans were still thankful that he had put them on the map and cleaned up DeBord's mess so they could continue to rebuild and grow. CMU fans understood that there are better places for a coach's career than CMU, and WVU fans need to start to understand that too. If RR ever decides to leave for the NFL, I'll understand that to some coaches, there are better places to coach than Michigan. And I'll wish him well and be thankful for restoring Michigan football to its rightful place.


Gravatar gsimmons- when do you speak to all these people? do you go to camps or something?


Gravatar combo of different things....sometimes its when coaches are recruiting, some of it is in association meetings, and clinics...

some is just plan me calling someone up and tellign themiwnat to bring my staff up to talkto your staff when would be a good time. most of the college coaches i have met, have always been very open... and accomidating... sure come on by...sit in on our meetings, share some thoughts etc. coaching really is a fraternity, and these guys are my very best friends....


Gravatar LJ, great point. WFV fans are acting like complete asshats, I can understand being upset but not ONE fan that I have seen has said thanks for what he has done for that program


Gravatar "these guys are my very best friends"

GSims, I thought we, the mgoblog posters, were your best friends?


Gravatar thats awesome i would love to be able to do something like that. i wish i understood football as far as plays and different coverages stuff on both sides of the ball everything that goes into that is something i would like to learn


Gravatar well umm, uh, yeah,,, ummm you are!


Gravatar well it takes a long time, ill tell ya that, its been 10 years for me, and it seems like there is always another way to teach something, or to call something... but i feel like i have a pretty good hadle on stuff now, and i think most people that work with me, or for me would agree, at least i would hope they would...


the best arguments are at football staff meetings, nd film break down sessions, just pure awesome ness that would scare the crap out of some people


Gravatar to put ShredGate in perspective, i slipped in the DVD of WE ARE MARSHALL tonight & watched for the third time. what a fcuking great football movie.


Gravatar some of the best fights i have ever been apart of, came from steriod infested coaches sitting around, blaming each other for loses, etc, but when we come out of those meetings, we are a unified group,


Gravatar Concerning Brian Kelly and his CMU departure, I mean, it's not like 5 of his players stomped a kid to death or anything...

Butch Jones is good stuff anyways.


Gravatar gsimmons, when studying film will coaches think up certain plays for coverage they see while watching then know exactly when to use it during the game? i always wondered when the annoucers say "they saw that on film and knew how to expose it" if that was really true


Gravatar Paul--I remember being at the 03 UM v. CMU season opener and seeing bill seymour run all over us and thinking this guy is going to be good..then a few months later he was going to jail for murder


Gravatar well, within a few minutes, you usually know what defeenses you are seeing, then its a matter of trying to find tendencies, down and distance stuff, how they play certain plays etc. then you draw up your plays against how you think thye will play it, and figure out what to work on that week, throw out, or put in, and different scenarios for what they might do to counter your movements...

then during the game, you need yoru spoters, and players to bre able to tell you how things are being adjusted on the field...


Gravatar If I were a coach thinking about coming there, I would have second thoughts based upon how they have handled this situation.

If you have to stay at the job for life to avoid a tantrum, when you leave for a better job, no thanks.


Gravatar gsimmons, I'm definitely not a coach of anything, but I photograph high school sports, and some of my favorite times are during breaks in preseason practices. I love to go in the coaches office and just sit and listen to the back and forth among the coaches.


Gravatar who else is coming this weekend besides TP and BC


Gravatar The closest I have seen is WVU threads on Scout saying, "Let's get over it and move on."

They get a tepid response, followed by 15 threads of "I hate the BASTARD!!!!1111"

sigh. He'd better be good after all this shit we're putting up with.


Gravatar sgt ,


yeah good times...

i always say, besides the wiegthroom, a white board is my fav thing...


Gravatar gsimmons- sounds liek a bunch of stuff goes into a game plan week in and week out..sounds like a tough ass job


Gravatar I'm pretty sure Martin is coming this weekend too.


Gravatar Here is the most recent list:

Pryor, Cissoko, JT Floyd, Martin, Michael Shaw, Brandon Moore, and DJ Woods.


Gravatar The closest I have seen is WVU threads on Scout saying, "Let's get over it and move on."

They get a tepid response, followed by 15 threads of "I hate the BASTARD!!!!1111"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We have been doing the same thing to Ryan Mallett for 10 days. . . .


Gravatar well i tell ya waht, the toughest part of being a coach, is the time... i work so hard, when school starts, its actually a break....

i miss my sons during the summer and the season, but after the game, to see my 4 yer old waiting on the sideline, in a 3 point stance waiting for me to say down set hut, so he can run out onto the field with me, is the greatest feeling ever


Gravatar I'm not sure we have Mallett to thank for the legitimization (hey, it might be a word..) of our program. That being said...good point. Oh yeah and we aren't nearly as crazy as WV folk.


Gravatar gsimmons85: Please show your child the Tila Tequila video so that he never is tempted to attend WVU when he comes of age.


Gravatar dick, he already has scolie offers to big ten schools...


Gravatar he might not be athletic when he grows up, but he will have size,

and i guarentee he will be the most technique perfect football and basketball player in the state...


Gravatar gratzie


Gravatar gsimmons85: Nice. Only offers to UM or Northwestern should be accepted.

If you guys haven't watched Tila since this morning, it's worth a second viewing.


Gravatar gsimm- that is hilarious, is your son into football?


Gravatar i never would of admitted to anyone that i have seen an episode or 2 of that show but since it was posted on here i feel comfortable saying that


Gravatar JamieMac will be happy, Bob Knight won his 900th game 2nite. . . .


Gravatar as much as a 4 year old can be....


Gravatar good point


Gravatar Speaking again as an observer, I know the hs coaching staff here generally doesn't really take a day off from late July through the end of the season (late October or sometime in November, depending on the level of success). And this isn't even really big-time hs football.


Gravatar Toronto,

Did you watch the game? I caught the end and Knight took the mic for what looked like a speech about 900, but ended up saying something like "we had a full house FOR ONCE and you fans were great." Just thought it was a funny thing to throw a little barb in at the fans when they were expecting the 900 wins speech.


Gravatar gsimmons:

what was that USC quarterbacks name -- Todd Marinovich? Just saying. Oh, do you ever do anything but read this blog? If you teach your son as much as you teach your students, I'm sure he'll be a real upstanding citizen.


Gravatar Good old Bobby. I saw the chair-throwing game on TV while living near W. Lafayette. Lots of fun with that one on the Purdue campus.


Gravatar @ SY

grew up in indy during the Knight era, endured it all, he is nothing but pure entertainment. i know people who scroll the chair throw video over and over during cocktail parties. . . .


Gravatar my football season will beging on feb 1st, or as soon as my bbll season ends...


by march we are having postion meetings everyday, footwork agililty or 7 on 7 stuff every morning before school, and of course lifting afer school never stops...

by june i will be on football trips, and basketball trips, as well as having camps... july all football, 7 n 7 or summer pracitce.... plus lifting and plyo, agility, conditoining etc...

end of july mini camp and 2 a days

august 1st offical practice 3 a days.... first game the 3rd week.... last game, hopefully 1st week of december, a fulll month after bball season starts for me...


Gravatar He certainly is entertaining. Coors Light could have a whole line of commercials there.


Gravatar bucknut, not catching your drift...


Gravatar gs, you coach basketball, too?


Gravatar actually talked about the civil war today in apush class, i check it some days more than others, i like it...

i take it you are saying something about how im neglecting my students and son or something to that effect eh?

funny


Gravatar yeah well i was a head girls bball coach for several years, but when i took this offer in gboro, i just went back to being an assistant for the boys, the head coach is a good friend of mine...


Gravatar Man, I spent two years coaching soccer (girls in fall, boys V+JV no assistants). That was enough. I admire your stamina. I never really did recover from that.

1988 Tennessee State Champions, anyway. It was almost worth it.


Gravatar apparently no one in west virginia has ever changed jobs before

or they've never had jobs before. one or the other


Gravatar Gsmims - your football has whiteboards, when I played we didn't have whiteboards or chalkboards, all I got was a onesheet offensive playbook. I don't even think we had a defensive playbook.

We won one game that year, against MLK, who was supposed to kill us.

All we had was a Head coach, no OC, no DC, no nothin'.


Gravatar Wow, gs, you're a glutton for coaching punishment. That's awesome.


Gravatar Props for admitting your mistake, Brian. I read BHGP a lot too, and knew immediatly it was a joke. The only guy BHGP really fucks around with is their O-coord.

It takes balls to admit a mistake. Keep up the good work!!


Gravatar bsb-

That's because there is one job in West f'ing Virginia, and that's minin' the coal from under the ground.


Gravatar I figure it would have been a lot easier to tell it was a joke or "in jest" if it was, you know, "funny." If you just act stupid, people assume you are stupid, not acting stupid.


Gravatar OSU is sh_tting their pants so bad that that they put in an application to join the SEC and leave the B10.

http://bleacherreport.com/articl...plied_to- 170108


Gravatar Whats that I smell...(sniff, sniff) I smell P_$$y!!


Gravatar Dont know how true this is...but HA!
It could be that I think I'm on time but I'm already late...

January 15, 2008: Ohio State Applies for Membership in the SEC.

It's just been a week and already the fallout from Ohio State's 4th quarter collapse against the LSU Tigers has started. In a surprise move, in the spirit of "if you can't beat them - join them", the Athletic Director of Ohio State University has formally applied to become a member of the SEC. The Big Ten had initially filed a protest until the SEC reciprocated by offering a two-for-one deal packaging Mississippi and South Carolina.

Hesitant at first, the Big Ten director accepted because he reasoned that now the Big Ten will now have 12 teams and can earn some much needed respect among its conference peers by adding a conference championship game. The SEC officials were giggling as they left the room saying, "I can't believe they fell for it. We traded two cellar-dwellers for a team that will be average in the SEC. Now we only have 11 teams. [{chuckle-chuckle} - no more curs-ed championship game - now we can back a team into the National Championship game every year. The situation was explained delicately to South Carolina and Mississippi, but neither team minded because now they will both have a shot at winning seasons and bowl games.

Sensing the end of his gravy train, Jim Tressel pleaded his case to the Big Ten admin saying "really, we're gonna beat them this time", but was told "we've trusted you for seven years now, just as we had the coaches before you, and we just can't take your word for it anymore. We hope you can understand."


Gravatar I think Witherspoon is a goner to Tennessee. Anytime you offer "No comment" on your lean after the head coach from Michigan visits you, that is bad.


Gravatar omgz tosu is leeving thr big 10~11one!


Gravatar Rich Rodriguez addresses the allegations basically calls them all lies.


http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...RTS17/ 801170420

You stay classy WVU.


Gravatar Re: Mallett :

Dude, we talked about Mallett for like...a day after he left, maybe two, with each other (fellow UM fans)...not for over a month with anyone on God's green earth who'll listen including every media outlet that would publish a story...and then some. Unless you're including the speculative "is he or isn't he?" stuff, which doesn't really count. Anywho, count how many times we've said "Pryor" or any misspelled variation and "Threet" or the name of any other QB we want/have, compared to how many times we've written "Mallett"...do the same for "RichRod" or any derogatory variation and "Coach Stew" and lemme know how that goes, lol. It's not really comparable.


Gravatar Inca Kola - Thanks for that article...I'm kinda glad he's saying something about it, I think we all feel his frustration (though to a lesser degree).


Gravatar http://www.theangryt.com/article....php? id_art=407
^^^
article about the worst decisions to enter the draft, featuring luminaries such as marcus taylor, korleone young, darius walker, and our very own ernest shazor. Which brings me to my point-

Does anyone have any earthly idea where Shazor is? What has he been doing? Why did he leave in the first place? Does anyone know the answers?


Gravatar Adrian Arrington is gonna be on that list soon


Gravatar @ MDan: I agree. Hill's commitment mitigates the damage.


Gravatar @Anon

I agree 100000000%. I think Mario has a sketchy future as a pro, and I am not optimistic at all about AA. Although with one more year of college experience, I do think AA would have been better equipped to succeed. The NFL isn't a terribly patient place to get experience.


Gravatar Word is that RR's lawyers asked WVU not to say anything about the document issues, and they said, F-U. Allegedly, the anonymous source of the Charleston story was someone on the coaching staff and was put up to it by the AD. (please note, I said "allegedly".) If this is true, it only bolsters the fact that even the powers that-be at WVU and in the AD have no common sense.

I have a feeling that Rod's answer to the complaint will include a counter-complaint for defamation. Those damages could be worth a lot more than $4 million. (This is not an attempt to threadjack for another legal discussion, just my own speculation.)


Gravatar Exactly.... If he came back and refined his game he would be much more equipped for the NFL, regardless of the "offense changing".

The NFL is a "what can you do for me now league". If you can't contribute right away, (and you aren't a first or second round pick with money invested) you get released... end of story.


Gravatar Exactly, AA is obviously banking on being able to contribute right away and while it's possible, I just don't think it's likely. Nobody is going to sit on him for four seasons and babysit him there.

As much as I hate to speculate about his personal motivation issues and such, I don't know if he can handle the NFL. Lloyd had to hold his hand through stadium steps and such to keep him in line, but NFL coaches don't have time for that. You can definitely get away with being a headcase in the NFL, especially at WR, but the ones who do that and stay in the league are guys like TO and Ocho Cinco. If you don't keep your shit together and contribute, well, look where FredEx is right now.


Gravatar And I maintain that Mario is Charles Rogers in a Michigan uniform. That double move might burn Tom Boxerkowski seven times a game, but can he get off the line against Chris McAlister or juke Ed Reed like that?


Gravatar Dex - but did you know that Tom Zbikowski was a golden-gloves boxer?


Gravatar You ever have a "friend" who always ragged on you with some shit that hit a little too close to home?... and then said "dude, I'm just kidding" as if that magically made their over-the-line bullshit insult okay?
That's what BHGP did. Brian is right to bury the heatchet and move on, but their post was horseshit and they shouldn't make a habit of it. For one thing, the "humor" in it wasn't exaggerated enough to be of EDSBS or MZone quality. If they're going to try to run with those horses they need to improve their craft.


Gravatar The thing about AA going pro is that he's essentially basing his draft position off of one stellar game. He was awesome vs. Florida. Other than than, please show me where he was anything approaching dominant. He was a good 2nd banana for one year, and good 3rd banana for another. He can probably make some hay in the redzone catching fades. Other than that, he's a possession receiver. A possession receiver with extensively documented personal issues. Draft him in the first round!


Gravatar Pryor "I want to play in a college town in front of 100,000 packed"


Gravatar btw, any of you on the barwis facebook group notice that dann o'neill, brandon moore, and dj woods have all joined? not surprised about the first 2, but woods is a nice surprise..


Gravatar caup, VERY well said. I agree 100%

And AA will be a nice pro.


Gravatar I just sort of think that blogger slap-fights are silly.


Gravatar I agree that AA will be a nice pro as well- For the Barcelona Dragons


Gravatar @ CAUP - I agree with you for the most part, but did you the post below it with the stick figure of Sean Sonderleiter? now THAT was humor (granted that was OPS, not Hawkeye State).


Gravatar Chris, do you think its really them or someone who made up a profile of them. the reason I ask is because I became friends with LaMarr Woodley on facebook his senior year at Michigan and I'm still not totally sure it was really him or someone who made up his profile. GO BLUE!


Gravatar chitown,
tru dat.

I just felt the need to put in my two cents because of Hawkeye State's lame "whaaa?? We were just kidding!!!" That brought back memories of wanting to punch a few smart-asses in the face after ripping on my girlfriend or some such bs.
I'd have more respect for BHGP if they said "yeah, the end was total parody but the first part was good ol' fashioned mud-slinging."


Gravatar I chuckled a little when reading this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/c...ht& lid=tab2pos1


Gravatar Any news on TP? Did he wake up and take a dump this morning? C-Bus has the Blue Jackets.


Gravatar Teddy Greenstein had this to say about Pryor:

"If you haven't heard of Pryor, that's OK. There had to be a first time you read the name Reggie Bush or Vince Young or...







Jimmy Clausen."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sp...ack=2& cset=true


Gravatar DFRoweJR - take a look for yourself and judge....i'm relatively new to FB, so i'm not as sure...but if i had to guess, i'd say they're legit.


Gravatar M-flightsci,

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.


Gravatar Blogger slap fights are serious bizniss.


Gravatar Hell hath no fury like a hillbilly scorned.


Gravatar Guard Thompson

Pryor said today that "I want to play in a college town, in front of 100,000 that's packed"


Gravatar @the truth...link?


Gravatar I don't know exactly why the BHGP debate gets me so fired up, but urge to kill rising...rising...


Gravatar Anyone chillin on the Haloscan last week (or so...) may recall the bitter screed penned by Easterbrook, and the response I submitted to the ESPN ombudsman regarding the truly unsubstantiated and outright falsehoods perpetuated in Easterbrook's article (regarding the timing of RichRod's hiring, the pitt game, etc.).

Some requests were made for notification of any response I might receive from the WWL, and since I don't have Brian's email address handy, I'm posting here for all to read (feel free to cut & paste, and forward to Brian if you so choose). It is nothing exciting, and looks to be standard boilerplate mumbojumbo...


(No Subject)
From: Russell Goldstein (espn.feedback@gmail.com)
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Sent:
Wed 1/16/08 6:09 PM
To:
ross_hammersley@hotmail.com





A note from Le Anne:

I cannot respond personally to all the mail I receive, but I do read and take note of all complaints. When the complaints are specific to a show or to an article on espn.com, I forward them to the producer or editor in charge of that content. When there are several complaints on the same topic, I do a weekly tabulation that becomes part of a report sent to all of ESPN's top management. (I do the same for positive comments.) I cannot assure you that your complaints or mine will result in action, but I can assure you they are not lost in some cyberspace void. They are read, thought about, disseminated.

Thank you,

Le Anne Schreiber


Russell Goldstein
Assistant to the ESPN Ombudsman

espn.feedback@gmail.com

Click here for the ombudsman archive


Gravatar I'm sorry, I'm supposed to care what some cornhumping Iowan said because...?


Gravatar I will add the adendum to my "I think blogger slap-fights are silly" statement:

"Commenter slap-fights revolving around blogger slap-fights are sillier."


Gravatar @ RHammer: I checked his article this week for a correction/retraction. Of course, there wasn't any. Strangely, there was a whole section lambasting the NY Times for their reporting errors. Hypocrisy, thy name is Unibrow (and Charlie Weis).


Gravatar I won't be satisfied by ESPN's actions until they pull out Easterbrook's toenails. And Skip Bayless's, for that matter.


Gravatar @MRG - thanks for the head's up... not too surprised though, as he certainly seems more like a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of journalist... er, I mean hack


Gravatar http://michigan.rivals.com/conte....asp? CID=762860


pryor link


Gravatar send carty to wv


Gravatar It seems that the primarily useful information from LeAnne's reply (above) is that multiple responses to the ESPN Ombudsman on the same topic will become part of a weekly report sent to all of the WWL's top management...

file that one away for future reference I guess...


Gravatar OMG PRYOR OMG SET KLAXONS TO MAXIMUM OMG

Well, it doesn't rule out the Horseshoe


Gravatar I hope the Ann Arbor News is happy with their lead Michigan Football columnist never being granted an interview with the Michigan head football coach for the next 5-20 years. Didn't this guy do everything he could to piss off Carr too?

Carty thinks he's some sort of hard hitting journalist, but he's really just like any other asshole hack.


Gravatar No, doesn't rule out the 'Shoe, but it does rule out LSU, Florida and Oregon.


Gravatar How many seats does OSU have?


Gravatar ~102,000, I believe


Gravatar Re: Carty - even a reporter from the Toledo Blade was able to get an interview with Rod. The Blade touts it as an exclusive (though that only means anymore that they talked to him without anyone else present). Carty shut out? One can only hope.


Gravatar @the truth...thanks for the link!


Gravatar Carty is a but plug.


Gravatar but=butt


Gravatar The capacity doesn't rule out the Shoe, but his reference to a college town should rule out Columbus; it didn't really feel like a college town when I was there. But I doubt Pryor sees it like that.


Gravatar Why doesn't Carty go after the University of Michigan? What the fuck do you expect RR to do, pay the $$M out of his own bank account from what he earned previously? No way.
I say it's M's duty to step in and say "All right, enough of this nonsense. Rich, here's $7 million, that should take care of Uncle Sam and WVU. Go pay them and let's play some football!"


Gravatar Carty's blog is teh suxx0rz.

Your average college football fan - having read about the Pryor incident and how Rodriguez quit - could find it very believable the coach was shredding docs faster than an Enron executive, and shredding them for a reason.

Unless, you know, a reporter did his job and gathered these things called facts and, like, reported them to the average college football fan. This is called journalism, isn't it?


Gravatar I think the average college football fan is not paying a lot of attention to mid January legal drama between Rod and WVU, especially considering we have Conference Championship weekend coming up and the looming, frightening, sickening possibility of Brady VS Favre on the horizon.


Gravatar Those of you looking for a Barwis fix:

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26221853

Pre-Sugar Bowl pep talk. Not real long, but vintage Barwis.
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Gravatar God I fucking hate Carty.

He of "main stream media has quality control" fame, should not be writing hack bullshit sans sources.


Gravatar @caup '91
Bill Martin surely had some expectations about how WVU would deal post-Rodriguez, based on what happened with Beilein. I'm sure he didn't count on WVU and state officials going virtual postal on Rod, thinking that an institution of higher education (allegedly) would behave, you know, rationally.
Of course, Rod isn't paying the buyout all himself. But with all that has happened, maybe everyone's letting the chips fall to help negotiate a reduced sum for the buyout.


Gravatar Oops. forgot to close the anchor tag.

http://vidsearch.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=26221853


Gravatar bleeding,
I just think that at this point knocking some money off of the buyout isn't worth the PR damage. $7M is a pimple on the ass of M's vast monentary resources. Hell, just have a booster pay it and put his name on one of the towers of the new stadium expansion.


Gravatar Caving in to WV = bad PR.


Gravatar anyone got anything new on pryor?


Gravatar I don't necessarily disagree with you, but now, with apparently false accusations against RR, the waters have been muddied. As I said earlier, a counterclaim for defamation wouldn't surprise me in the least. If the U had just kept its mouth shut about the files, shredding, etc., the buyout is the only PR issue. And if there's a counterclaim and a subsequent settlement for less than $4M, then RR gets a chance at vindication.


Gravatar "You" in last is caup '91


Gravatar http://www.dailymail.com/Sports/...ts/ 200801170675
looks like the Charleston Daily Mail got a hold of RR's WVU phone records...they just won't let go.


Gravatar What we're seeing is Ed Pastilong's control issues writ large. This is a continuation of the crap he gave Rod while he was at WVU, and why he left.

Absolute humiliation of him is the only solution. If he thinks he has won the least iota of anything, it will never end.


Gravatar I think every time TP opens his mouth he says something to get somebody else riled up. I can't blame him, if I was being recruited and haggled for like he is I would become jaded and start playing mind games. I still think he eventualy picks tOSU. I'm not trying to be a debbie downer or anything, I just think we got back into the mix a little too late.

Of course this is all just blind speculation on my part, and if he comes here I'll welcome him with open arms.


Gravatar I am sure Carty still has all of the documents he had in his hovel when he covered Rutgers. In fact, I ask all of the reporters making a big deal out of this to show me every memo they have ever receieved from every job they have ever had. Ridiculous.

When I cange jobs, the only documents I keep is the ones I need to cover my ass in case something blows up after I leave - such as a boss telling me to do something I do not agree with. Other than that it is shred o rama.


Gravatar The phone records thing is really insane. This is one of the most pathetic negative PR campaigns I have ever seen. Are there no more mail boxes the smash or coaches to burn in the entire state of WV?

My only question is whether this will have a negative impact in the short-term on recruiting (especially when we seem to be in a neck and neck race with tOSU for Terrelle Pryor)?


Gravatar Remember when we were talking about dirty bombs and such for the MNC, I propose one over WVU. Would anyone really miss it?


Gravatar The only way anyone would miss it is if someone pointed out that WVU was gone.


Gravatar ...days could go by and the news media probably wouldn't even notice.


Gravatar I genuinely believe this won't impact recruiting. These kids want to go somewhere, by and large, that they think will showcase them for the pros. They're going to choose the school that best accomplishes that - whether the coach is getting sued doesn't really change the math for them.


Gravatar I agree, I don't think this will impact recruiting at all. Especially not anyone that has already committed.


Gravatar I'm not counting on Pryor, and really don't care. He acts like a Buckeye. (note to OSU - not pos. or neg. comment) He just seems to fit with that program better. I certainly would not object to him coming here, but again, he strikes me as someone who would be more comfortable in scarlet than blue.

There are other QBs out there, perhaps not at Pryor's level at the moment, but still pretty damn good. #2 tries harder anyway, according to Avis.


Gravatar Wow...that Charleston Daily Mail article is somewhat obsessive and stupidly speculative:

Rodriguez then called Cissoko in a call that lasted two minutes and took a seven-minute call from an unidentified number, perhaps a person returning a message Rodriguez had left earlier.

Or perhaps it was a telemarketer! Or Terrell Pryor!


Gravatar Or perhaps his wife asking him what he wanted for dinner.


Gravatar Maybe it was Bobby Petrino inquiring about the opening at WV


Gravatar WVU's determination to "get" RichRod is just becoming sadder and sadder.


Gravatar Maybe it was Lloyd Carr asking if RichRod thought the spread could work against Florida in the bowl game. Said RichRod, "absolutely!"


Gravatar Actually it was me... I wanted to tell him how good the Ravioli is in Ann Arbor


Gravatar The AP has picked up the story from the Toledo Blade's interview with RR. This part's a gem:

"The discovery (that files are missing) has rekindled ill feelings over Rodriguez's decision to leave the Mountaineers." As though everyone in WFV had already forgotten and moved on. Hilarious!


Gravatar Actually it was me... I wanted to tell him how good the Ravioli is in Ann Arbor
Mangino | 01.17.08 - 12:01 pm |

Ha! Mangino strikes again!


Gravatar Obviously he has a tranny hooker on the side, and she was calling him to see which Motel 6 they were meeting at.


Gravatar @Mangino
I actually did LOL!


Gravatar WV would bitch if RichRod left the last square on the roll of toilet paper. And as far as Pryor goes if he is in this much doubt about the maize and blue then go to the bucks bitch there always someone else and I bet they won't be a pre-madonna as him. Here-here second string fights harder, it ain't free bitch............


Gravatar I don't see what's scandalous about talking to Butch Jones ad nauseum. Anyone have a clue?

I think the information in the article would be more damning if it showed he was calling recruits, etc., before he announced his resignation - but it doesn't show that. It may not have been the best idea, but if I'm on the road, and need to call people, I'm going to use the phone that's in my pocket and not get into who pays for it. I don't see this as evidence of evil.

What shocks me, though, is how this hearing regarding the buyout is getting turned, by WVU and press, into a referendum on RR's character, regardless of whether the info is relevant. I mean, what, really, does RR's phone records AFTER he announced his resignation have to do with whether he breached his contract with WVU?


Gravatar Did somebody say Steaks?? Oh strikes....damnit


Gravatar Also, the article thinks it has a "gotcha!" moment when it says that RR said he turned down Arkansas, but it shows he spoke with them for 9 minutes. Um...in order to tell them he wasn't interested, wouldn't he have to talk to them? 9 minutes doesn't seem like a full-on interview.


Gravatar This is all a bunch of bullshit and everybody is WAY to into it...........


Gravatar To continue what GoBlue said, what would the general feeling be around these parts if Threet were the starter next year? I feel like I'd be okay with that...but does everyone else agree?

Also, I'm hoping Brian has much more to write about in the offseason this year. Does anyone know if RichRod holds open practices or anything like that? I'd guess from his demeanor so far that he does...that sure would be nice!


Gravatar Yeah...RichRod could have just let Arkansas spit its bullshit for 8 minutes to be polite. Or maybe it took him 7 minutes to figure out the accent.


Gravatar It's not like the conversation goes:

"Hi, I'm the AD of Arkansas. I was wonder-"
"NOT INTERESTED!!!!" (hang up)

As a normal, civilized human, you let the guy say what he wants to say.


Gravatar So, Arkansas calls to talk turkey. What's he supposed to do, say, "No thanks, your minute is up."?


Gravatar Great minds, chitown....


Gravatar Re: Threet.

I think it's impossible to say whether we'd "be OK" with Threet. He hasn't played competitively for nearly one full, entire year - he's an absurdly unknown quantity. On one hand, he was a fairly highly regarded recruit last year. On the other, when at GT, he got jumped by one recruit who was in his class on the depth chart, and felt like he'd be behind a freshman incoming this year - resigning him to 3rd string forever.


Gravatar I'm waiting for the next Charleston Daily Mail article, which speculates that RichRod will get calls on his cellphone without answering, and then call back from a payphone, a la Tony Soprano.


Gravatar He made Arkansas give them their pitch without using the letter E.


Gravatar I'm waiting for the next Charleston Daily Mail article, which speculates that RichRod will get calls on his cellphone without answering, and then call back from a payphone, a la Tony Soprano.

I don't know if anyone else watches The Wire, but clearly, WVU needs officers Freamon and McNulty on the case.


Gravatar You know from everything I have read out of the wolverine is that David Cone ran a spread option offense in h.s. he only had 90 pass attempts his senior year that is why he was only a 3 star.


Gravatar a la Tony Soprano! Nice!!!


Gravatar They are, however, giving Rich Rod the full-on Houston Nutt treatment. They're certainly making themselves more attractive to future coaching candidates by the day.


Gravatar Hey, am I mistaken, or did Nick Sheridan actually see a snap or two at the end of the Minny game?


Gravatar FUCK WEST VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!! THERE FAGS!!!!!


Gravatar Henne...you are not mistaken.

So why did Cone only throw 90 passes? Was he hurt? A back-up?


Gravatar IIRC, Cone had a 21-yarder to Butler to end the game...but I thought I remembered Sheridan getting some "hand-the-ball-off" snaps to some of our really deep-in-the-depth-chart RBs.


Gravatar Yeah 10-4 on the Sheridan snaps.


Gravatar I can only imagine the thought process that goes into posting "FUCK WEST VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!! THERE FAGS!!!!!"


Gravatar They just ran the ball more.


Gravatar Hey dex are you gay?


Gravatar "anyone got anything new on pryor?"

Actually I do. This just in... He woke up and dropped a deuce and then had corn flakes for breakfast. After that he brushed his teeth...


Gravatar I can only imagine the thought process that goes into posting "FUCK WEST VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!! THERE FAGS!!!!!"
dex | Homepage | 01.17.08 - 12:18 pm | #


Probably remarkably similar to the thought process that goes into typing
"kdshfdsahtgewiohrajds" (if you don't get it, I just slapped the keyboard with my palm).


Gravatar I like to imagine it involves putting on some reading glasses, taking a sip of really expensive wine, lighting a cigar, staring thoughtfully out a bay window into the gently falling snow, and then carefully typing it out. Followed by a deep sigh of contentment, and leaning back in the leather chair.


Gravatar I can only imagine the thought process that goes into posting "FUCK WEST VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!! THERE FAGS!!!!!"
dex | Homepage | 01.17.08 - 12:18 pm |


That goes right up there with one of the other most thought-induced statements I've ever heard...high school boys locker room...the statement was: "Shit, fuck yeah, dawg."


Gravatar Dex if you are meet me behind the wood shed and i'll treat you like a moutaineer....squeel bitch.


Gravatar They just ran the ball more.
GoBlue | 01.17.08 - 12:18 pm | #


So if his experience was largely handing the ball to someone else in the spread, does that really mean that he is "experienced in running the spread"? Especially for a big, slow QB?


Gravatar I am a raging homosexual, but unfortunately your offer won't work since I'm a top. Occasionally a power bottom, but I doubt you are my type.


Gravatar "I like to imagine it involves putting on some reading glasses, taking a sip of really expensive wine, lighting a cigar, staring thoughtfully out a bay window into the gently falling snow, and then carefully typing it out. Followed by a deep sigh of contentment, and leaning back in the leather chair."

Keep that stuff coming, dex! I was dying by the end of that!


Gravatar I can't believe your parents were stupid enough to name you "dex".
Anger rising...

hey, just kidding!!! ;-)


Gravatar @Guard

Keep the inside info rolling, but I need to know, what was the consistency of that deuce? Small pebbles? Big long loaf? This can give us a valuable insight to his conditioning habits and how he takes care of his body.


Gravatar FUCK WEST VIRGINIA!!!!!!!!!! THERE FAGS!!!!!
GoBlue | 01.17.08 - 12:16 pm | #


Dex if you are meet me behind the wood shed and i'll treat you like a moutaineer....squeel bitch.
GoBlue | 01.17.08 - 12:20 pm | #


Ahhh ignorant homophobia. The hallmark of the deterioration of any comment thread. It was fun while it lasted, I suppose.


Gravatar I'm sure he doesn't know how to "squeel".


Gravatar Am I the only one that is a bit concerned about the classiness of this guy? He won't pay the $4 million, and he shreds documents that may or may not have belonged to WVU? In an interview at the Citrus Bowl he mentions "some things that will come out later", in relation to why he left WVU?

I can't see any of this following Carr around (for example). Does this not give anyone else pause?


Gravatar Know in all seriousness from the things i have read on Cone since he was a prospect in h.s was he was mobile for a big guy . Lloyd wan't some mobility in the backfield, you know pocket presence(not John Navare).


Gravatar Gnarls - shut the fuck up, Fag.


Gravatar DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON

WVU TROLL SIGHTED. ALERT MR. SMITH


Gravatar Would you pay 4 million if your employer didn't live up to there side of a contract. Not to mention like Michigan isn't gonna payit, remember what dicks we looked like after the Miles and Schiano deal(I mean Rutgers says no to the Wolverines).


Gravatar This can give us a valuable insight to his conditioning habits and how he takes care of his body.

Barwis would be able to tell on sight...and would then proceed to pump him full of natural substances until he got the consistency he wanted.

Some might say...he would beat him until desired consistency.


Gravatar I may not have been paying enough attention - but what were the specifics that they didn't live up to? I thought it was only verbal promises on facilities, nothing written.....


Gravatar But "mobile for a big guy" doesn't = "mobile" (he ran a 5.2. That's like a D-lineman). If Cone's role was to hand the ball to the running back - not to throw, and not to run himself (he had 60 rushes that year - that includes sacks as rushes) then he didn't really "run the spread" in any meaningful way.


Gravatar Don't doubt the Coner.

Personally, I think GoBlue is David Cone.


Gravatar aabowler

rrod has not said he won't pay the buyout- his agent has suggested that it might not be owed since wvu had not lived up to its side of the agreement. if wvu didn't hold up their end then rrod shouldn't be hled accountable for his. wvu in their lathered up state decided the best manner for them to get what they believe they deserve is to file a law suit and make a definition determination of what will be owed. in the end, it's really no different than what would have happened anyway - it's just out in the open and a little uglier. remember bielien didn't pay his whole amount and that is not causing any rage.

it will all settle out and there is no damage to our reputation. this file thing we'll have to wait and see, but seems very trumped up.

like this blog has said wvu is tila tequila's twin.


Gravatar @Henne

After all the homophobia, I had trouble picturing your post (barwis pumping pryor full of natural substances, beating him until desired consistency) without giggling like a middle schooler.


Gravatar Honestly who really knows what was agreed upon. But I would like to beleve our new coach and I do beleve ther was something shady going on especially if the big$ boosters say there was tension between RichRod and the admistration.


Gravatar AABowler: Those things wouldn't follow Carr because he was an inside hire. I, for one, will believe Rod is innocent until there is legitimate proof he did something wrong. From what I've seen coming out of WVU since Rod's been hired, this "story" is consistent. Ridiculous accusations and lies from a bunch of lunatics that can't seem to grasp that their coach took another job. I don't understand their couch-burning mentality. Just because he's from West Virginia means he has to stay there forever? Move on with the new coach, let Rod go, and STFU.


Gravatar Dennis - I appreciate it very much, but did RR's agent give any specifics about the contract, or we just don't know?


Gravatar Chitown - it's throwdown time. Meet me at the corner of Belmont and Halstead (that's Boystown, right?).


Gravatar hahahaha...touche, dex!


Gravatar like this blog has said wvu is tila tequila's twin.

No, the analogy is TT = Rich Rodriguez, Ashley = WVU, mainly Ed Pastilong


Gravatar I thought we decided that stuff was planned for this weekend...except using sorority girls...not beastly S&C coordinators. That will surely scare Pryor away.

Aside: please, can we not launch into comparisons of various sorority girls again...


Gravatar Do any of you actually read the WOLVERINE or do you all just sit on this site and make up bullshit?????????? I mean at least the WOLVERINE is actual true events and not Pryor X-file type crap.


Gravatar aabowler

yes there were specifics and the article has been posted here before. maybe even in one of brian's posts.

the question of how meaningful they are and how it impacts the $4 million is for the parties and (now) a judge to decide.

grown intelligent business men would have settled this amicably (sp?).


Gravatar Chitown - it's throwdown time. Meet me at the corner of Belmont and Halstead (that's Boystown, right?).
Gnarls Woodson | 01.17.08 - 12:33 pm | #


Like the Times Square of Boystown. I'll stop at the Pleasure Chest on my way so I can purchase a giant dildo to beat you with.


Gravatar Pryor is likely an intelligent young man and when he sits down without all the noise in early February he will make a sound decision for himself....and he will look good in that winged helmet!!!!!


Gravatar tennblue

i stand corrected- wvu=ashley


Gravatar Dex,

That is a great quesiton and I am glad you asked. It has a tobacco-like resemblence that clearly shows that he had salad and 8 beers last night.

I am one of the few that will not be ripping you apart on the boards today. Your humor is refreshing and much needed amongst the Mich Football enthusiasts (whom I also love).


Gravatar Goblue - what "Pryor x-file" stuff? The only thing anyone has said lately was that he took a giant dump this morning. I'm guessing that's a joke.


Gravatar yes, thank god for our sweet uni's and kick ass fight song. Those two things help get us a bunch of recruits.


Gravatar I cosign Guard's post.

People are a bit cranky today! I see no need for M fans to be beating each other with giant dildos...


Gravatar I see no need for M fans to be beating each other with giant dildos...


You can be next, buddy.


Gravatar Do any of you actually want a kid who is so up in the air? I've bleed maize and blue since i was 8 or 9, since i could actually remember watching games with my dad and uncle(Notre Dame fans, REST IN PEACE).


Gravatar I believe the only proper use of giant dildos would be to write "Tressel loves penis" on them and bounce them around the crowd on gameday.


Gravatar He(Pryor) may not be up in the air. He already has an idea where he will go...especially after this weekend.


Gravatar GoBlue, are we gonna do it soon or what? My lunch break is almost over and you've got me all hot and bothered.


Gravatar Do any of you actually want a kid who is so up in the air?

Ummm, yes. My guess is Terrelle didn't grow up watching UM with his Dad and his Uncle. So, I'll give him a few extra moments to consider what will be one of the most important decisions of his life.


Gravatar Actually, what Pryor is doing is pretty funny. He's a very self-aware young man who is obviously playing the insane scouting publicity game for laughs.

I would bet he made his decision about where he is going months ago, and is now just out to screw with all the idiots as much as he can. It's one of the things I like about him.


Gravatar Dex - just use one of chitown's giant dildos...


Gravatar The WV behavior is very typical of the mindset that exists in a lot of areas where people think you're too big for your britches if you actually aspire to do something that involves leaving your hometown or your homestate. They have this sort of reverse elitism where they think anyone who leaves town must have some deep character flaw, such as greed or egomania. The university (and the governor) are simply choosing to exploit this for their own benefit. The consequence is the tarnishing of RR's character. If I was RR, I would pay the buyout and go on an all out PR offensive to redeem his character nationally (at the expense of WV). I would say I didn't go to Michigan for the money, I went for a better life for me and my children. Look at how me and my family have been treated since I left. Was there any reason for me to have wanted to stay in that environment? Legally, I didn't think I was required to pay the buyout, but I've done so anyway so that the attacks on me and my family would end. At the end of the day, all of this isn't about money. If it was, I would have continued to fight the buyout. It's about the better life my family will have in Ann Arbor being a part of the University of Michigan, one of the great educational institutions in the world. It's about the opportunities for me and my children that we will have in Ann Arbor that we would have never had in West Virginia. I know my decision may have upset some people back in West Virgnia, but at the end of the day, what's more important - doing what's best for my family or not hurting the feelings of people who only care about me as long as I'm the football coach of West Virgnia?


Gravatar Herbstreit is reporting that Pryor aced his poop this morning. 1 log, 1 wipe.


Gravatar GoBlue - If we needed our recruits to all bleed maize and blue prior to signing with Michigan, I don't think we'd have enough recruits to have a football team. Once the recruit is signed, yes, I'd like him to bleed maize and blue. It will come with time if/when Pryor signs.


Gravatar You know dex you do seem preety hot but I also must get back to work. GO BLUE! Know hard feelings towards any real maize and blue fan.


Gravatar Herbstreit is reporting that Pryor aced his poop this morning. 1 log, 1 wipe.

See, the guy's a stud. I bet it doesn't stink, either.


Gravatar I'm not a real fan, I'm imaginary.


Gravatar Should I be worried that poop story was broken by Herbstreit and not Desmond. Is this is a sign? Some kind of code?


Gravatar Tubes.....Herbstreit would know his own ass from a hole in the ground, what makes you think he has the inside scoop on TP's ass??? LOOL


Gravatar PT - Right on.


Gravatar WRT RR - When he accepted the UM job, didn't he put his resignation at WVU for 1/02/08? Later WVU came back and gave a date that he was effectively not employed by them anymore. All the calls in the article were, IIRC, during the time he had accepted the UM job, but was still at WVU. Maybe one of you with some extra time on your hands could make a timeline of all the random events alleged in this continuing saga.

BTW: In NC, the popular opinion is that RR is fine, but WVU is nuts!


Gravatar Sorry I didn't notice the thread had moved from RR to Pryor's poop. Carry on.


Gravatar Come on now, didn't someone link to a board post where WVU fans were legitimately clamoring for a movie to be made about the 2007 team because they were so inspirational in the bowl game?

These people are clearly insane. Thinking about them is just wasting valuable seconds we could be discussing TPs movements.


Gravatar "I'm hear to learn, people, not to hear about WVU...go on with bowel movements!"


Gravatar Hey ...New Post!!!!....com'on....runn


Gravatar Did someone say dirty bomb ?




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