TDJ RULES
Hart gets to prove the doubters wrong now; isn't this right where he wants to be?
third
Hart was a "steal" for Indy in the 6th.
fizith
Belichick can go cheat some more, honestly.
LOL Bike Hart went for a bike ride when frustrated with the draft. He hasnt rode that much since faking injuries during the season when his team needs him most - what a joke...
By FKA Lowcountry VP on 08:25:35 04/28/08
Colts make U-M's Hart sixth-round pick
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
For Mike Hart, Michigan's career leading rusher, the wait Sunday became a bit tedious.
He grew so tired of waiting for the phone call that would determine his NFL future, he left his home in Syracuse, N.Y., and went for a bike ride with his niece.
His wait eventually ended with a call from the Colts, who took Hart late in the sixth round, during the second day of the NFL draft.
"When I kept slipping and slipping it's got me a little fired up," Hart said during a conference call. "I'm ready to go. I'm back like it's my freshman year. It brought me back down to earth. Now I have to go in there and compete and try to prove myself again."
Hart is a bad mo, and is coming to dominate.
Any news on Forcier or Beaver? Any news on how the hell OSU is doing so good with recruiting, or are they still cheating?
We have extended our boarder into PA - Long live Joe PA !!!
Fear The Vest's compulsive masturbation problem has had the effect on his memory that professional counselors warn about; he posted the same comment on the previous thread. The only question I have is whether he's laminated the photo of Tressel he holds while yanking it.
the Vest is a cheater and he knows it. Pryor needs to buy me a new pair a shoes!!
Leave me alone - Lloyd said we have "good people" here in Ohio. I am one of them.
Who is the other one?
@Don
LMAO
Obviously the Vest. That's who Lloyd is recommending Michigan transfers to.
There should be a sign on here that says:
"Don't Feed the Trolls"
you should know that Mundy is only there for special teams, if he even makes the team. not that there wasn't a better option to draft. just saying..
Dear Brian:
Melvin Fellows opened up his recruitment voluntarily when HE received an offer from OSU and USC. Melvin was under the impression that he sucked and that he better accept the first thing coming which might explain why as a junior, he accepted the Illini offer in DECEMBER. Stop trying to compare apples and oranges, gerbils and hamsters, Shia and Sunni, or Lloyd family values and Richfraud family values.
Yet, no post explaining why RRod offered a job to a guy his assistant coach termed a "racist".
tressels mom has one arm and she swims in a circle
I knew it would be a mistake for Arrington to go (and said so frequently back in December). As good as I thought he could be, I just felt that NFL scouts weren't going to take a leap of faith and throw lots of money at a guy who hadn't done much in college. It just wasn't going to happen.
It would've been nice to have Arrington become a featured part of RichRod's ninja offense, but for some reason (ego?) Arrington wanted to take a flying leap...into the 7th round.
I seem to recall Woods having a very good Rose Bowl effort in the loss to Texas. Am I remembering that right?
Yes, Carr had his fair share of head scratching personnel choices. And get ready to lament "why the FUCK wasn't Johnny Thompson starting over Graham the last 2 years!!!!"
Bo made some horrendous personnel choices, too. Both him Carr and would play/bench guys out of priciple, results be damned.
Carr's decision to stick with a one-armed Henne against Ohio State was the epitome of his reasoning. I have a real problem with that sort of thinking.
Job #1 should always be to win the game albeit fair and square. Play the kid who gives you the best chance to win. Carr felt Henne "deserved" to play regardless of his effectiveness.
Carr's priority should be to the team and the school to do everything in his power help get the WIN. Period.
So you're saying that Tressel offered Fellows after he had committed to Illinois? How does that not make Brian's point?
Guys, I am transferring to Bucknuts because of a decline in family values. Fuck y'all bitches.
He obviously doesn't understand Brian's point, so he just made it for him.
And as for Hart, talk about stumbling into a great situation. He get passed over x5 by every NFL team and has to be fearing the worst. Then, he looks up and sees he has been picked by one of the 3 best teams in the NFL and has to out-perform Kenton Keith, Justise Hairston, Luke Lawton and Clifton Dawson for the #2 spot on the RB depth chart behind Joseph Adai. He's going to get significant playing time in Week 1 of the upcoming NFL season. Mark my words.
Thanks for helping me make my point, FearTheVest. The last time he was expected to be destroyed but had a supporting cast at full strength, he rushed for 129 and 2 TDs at the Citrus Bowl. He's fired up and ready to work his ass off. Good for him.
Also, Jamar Adams has signed with the Seahawks.
Son of Jorel wrote:
Melvin Fellows opened up his recruitment voluntarily when HE received an offer from OSU and USC.
Uh, so it's NOT ok to "recruit" a player that's already committed to another Big 10 school, but it's apparently ok to offer a scholarship to a player who has already committed to another Big 10 school? How does that make sense? I'm getting confused about what exactly a "gentleman" is supposed to do here.
Please stop. There is no "gentlemen's agreement". There never was one. Tiller made it up because he was pissed about losing a recruit to Michigan on the last day. I don't understand why an OSU fan would want to maintain a charade created by the fucking Purdue coach.
Pretending that there is an agreement (while the coaches themselves know better) just makes you look foolish, all so you can do...what, exactly? Criticize Michigan for a lack of recruiting "ethics" or something? Heh. RichRod and Michigan fans don't care, because RichRod and Michigan fans know that this "gentleman's agreement" is pure fiction. Stop.
Ok, seriously. That whole situation with Delany and his Pac-10 counterpart opposing playoffs seems like part of a problem that comes with two conferences that have traditions and academically strong universities with possibly wealthier graduates and large fan bases.
The Rose Bowl's tradition is played up quite a bit. I am one for tradition and all, but the heads of the Big 10 and Pac-10 use that excuse of preserving tradition in order to keep the revenues coming in. The B10-P10 match-up was only institutionalized in the 40s. It has already cost the Big 10 one MNC (1994). Correct me if this is not quite the case, but that's what it seems like to me.
cfaller, i think it's pretty clear that Tressel offered a s'ship w/o recruiiting the kid:
[scene: Kid's house, phone rings, kid answers phone]
Kid: Hello?
Vest: Hello, son... coach tressel here. i'm not calling to recruit you, i just wanted to let you know we're offering a s'ship.
Kid: Huh?
Vest: we're not recruiting you to play at osu, but you have received an s'ship to play football here, how's that sound?
Kid: OK, so i have a s'ship offer... to osu?
Vest: yep
Kid: but you're not recruiting me?
Vest: nope.
Kid: sign me up coach!
It's not just that, but Joe Tiller is a grumpy, Michigan-hating old man. I never took his comments seriously, but now I am just enjoying watching his stupid argument get fall apart.
how would a player involuntarily reopen his recruiting?
i am cha cho. i love the new UM and imo we're going to dominate all aspects of cfb as long as we get a dominate defense. whoo!!
Playing Devil's Advocate here: I don't understand the hindsight with regard to Arrington and Manningham. Both were veterans who had played alot in college and had suffered injuries already. I believe Manningham has had tow "knee scopes" and Arrington broke an ankle so badly that he still has a metal plate in his leg holding it together.
Now, both would be seniors in an offense that will be questionable at best due to new QB's not geared to actually PLAY that offense, and an offensive line that at this point looks like it could be horrible. And no proven running back to pose a threat that way either. Manningham and Arrington would probably be asked to block a hell of alot more than they ever have in this scheme this year, so I can't see where their numbers would improve at all, and in fact would probably be alot worse.
I think both of them made the right decision, although for various reasons they slipped in the draft. I really can't see where it would have benefitted them to come back to Michigan for one more season.
same situation you see in the everyday business world. young guy on the way up, full of energy and fresh ideas. old cronies bitch and moan. the vest eats bran flakes for breakfast.
how would a player involuntarily reopen his recruiting?
Ans: he was recruita-raped.
what are they saying about beaver and who he is considering? i really like to say "what are they saying about beaver"
Hart has a great situation. He was the best pass blocking rb ever at Michigan and he will make a comfortable living protecting Peyton Manning on 3rd and long situations.
Hey, anybody have a copy of "duelling banjos" handy?
i agree wit ya fred
For Beaver, it has to be Michigan or Texas Tech. He was ready to committ to TT before the UM offer came, so I wouldn't think that his thoughts on TT have changed.
Right now it seems to be a game of Bluff between Forcier and Beaver. I'm sure neither will committ without the reassurance that that will be the edn of QB recruiting for '09.
Andy Moeller: college LB with no experience coaching OL prior to 2002.
Greg Frey: starting OL for FSU when they won a national title and went something crazy like 42-5 in his 4 years there. Coached only OL for the last 7 years prior to coming to Michigan.
Gee, will there be an improvent in our OL's play?
Lemme take a wild guess....
p.s. I'm a Colts fan. And yes, God loves Mike Hart. What a perfect opportunity for him! He is going to get a lot of good PT for a 1st-class organization and I am stoked about it.
If I might be allowed to specualte further (I'll do it even if I'm not allowed to), I think RR and Co prefer Tate Forcier to The Beave, and are kind of patiently waiting to see what he do. The coaches are visiting both players this week, IIRC. They are probably going to apply some pressure on Forcier or at least get a feel. According to Scout, it's "first come, first served" with these two.
Re: Morrelli
"acutely undercoached and unprepared for the job of being a professional QB."
I would have used the word "criminally" in place of "acutely" and added the word "laughably" in front of the word "unprepared", but otherwise ... yeah.
its gonna get fast and furious here pretty soon. spots will filling up quickly. newsome will open the floodgates!
Scalz/Chitown: I posted my response in the previous thread, FYI.
Caup:
Couldn't agree more on the coaching thing. Moeller was something I never understood. Yes, Frey (and the rest of the staff) should be at least a 84% upgrade, but the OL recruiting has been poor before this 2008 class, they are thin (numbers wise), and have little experience.
haha saw this on a tcu board while stalking beaver.
"I was just about to make a decision here for TCU, but now I don't know. I'm just waiting right now until after my spring ball," said Beaver. "TCU was one of my top schools, but now that Michigan has offered that made me want to change my mind. Michigan has a big opportunity for me to play early. Michigan is a huge school so it's pretty even."
Dear Shavodrick,
Its COLD as HELLLLL in Michigan and its a long ways from Wichita Falls. Don't get wrapped up in all the hype. The new TCU offense will be a mirror image of Michigan's and you WILL get playing time here instantly. Do the coaches in Ann Arbor even know how to get to Wichita Falls? No they have no idea. They offered just to offer. Don't let them cloud your vision of being a superstar here at TCU. *See University of Texas if you want an example of players told one thing and receive another. Transferring after finding out too late would really suck and sitting out a year would suck too. Plus, your mom can watch you EVERY SINGLE WEEKEND here in Fort Worth.
Your future biggest fan,
Zammers
honestly i am always stalking beaver
Now if Zammers would toss in a blow job now and then. Beaver might think about it.
@barking
haha
@barking sphincter
I'm not questioning Manningham's decision to go pro, even though I wanted him to stay. I understood what Mario was thinking, but Arrington? C'mon.
He had only one year in the starting lineup (Breaston and Manningham were the starters in 2006), and even then he was the #2 guy. As such, his stats were underwhelming, to say the least. What exactly was his pitch going to be to NFL scouts? What exactly was he going to say or do that was going to convince these entities to throw millions of dollars at him? As we see now in hindsight, he didn't have a pitch for them, and he didn't make the sale.
Granted, his role and his stats would have been uncertain with a new coach and a new QB. But I'm not sure how that's so clearly worse than the 7th round (with no bonus and no job security the following year).
I suppose it would be better to get paid to have an uncertain role in a new offense with a new QB (as he now has in the NFL), but I believe his compensation would have been better had he waited. Taking a chance at being the featured WR in a new offense (and realizing his potential) might have paid off handsomely in next year's draft. Scouts and teams like players with versatility and an aptitude for learning new systems.
What always made me shake my head about Arrington's decision was my belief that he wasn't going to go very high, if at all. I still believe working for one more season as the #1 WR at Michigan would have made him a higher draft pick next year.
Newsome is going to help immensely in regards to getting McNeal and hopefully that giant OL from Trotwood-Madison. I know the OL isn't in as badshape as the DL in terms of recruits, but last years bunch, aside from O'Neill, was underwhelming.
If I'm Arrington, you said it best: I guess I can get PAID now. If he's good enough, he'll make the league. One year of standing around looking confused because the offense just ran another bubble screen won;t help him. If he can make the team this year, he is pretty much guaranteed a million bucks. At this point, after having been in college for four years, and having a metal plate in my leg, I'll take some caysh.
If you put Adrian Arrington into a Minnesota uniform, everyone on earth would agree he is incredibly insane to leave early and has little to no future in the NFL. Because he wore the winged helmet, this board has convinced themselves he is going to be a contributor.
AA, as a 7th round draft pick, has one training camp to prove he is worth a spot. If he manages to make the team this year, he has to improve SIGNIFICANTLY upon his college talents in order to stay. NFL teams don't draft WRs in the 7th round to babysit them - if he doesn't get the program right away, run better routes, and perform like the Cap1 Bowl every single day at practice, he's not making the team, let alone being anything resembling a contributor. I'm sorry, but I said it when he did and I will keep saying it forever, he isn't ready for the NFL. He's playing in the Arena League within 3 years.
cfaller, AA hated michigan and didn't like carr. my buddy on the team said he made the decision to leave practically before the season even started and with a new regime change, it was no-brainer for him to leave.
Besides, Arrington can get Barwissed this off season and be in great shape in time for training camp.
dex, i respect your opinion but I bet AA will be better than MM. and i bet everyone disagrees with me.
Arrington is an idiot. Just look at his initials ...AA.
I really think, also, that Manningham and Arrington's off field shenanigans wouldn't have gone over well. They would have been in every other players position: to have to re earn their starting spot. Shit, man, I couldn't give a sweet merciful fuck if they make the pros. They would probably gotten in the way in Ann Arbor. Get 'em the hell out of there and let RR bring more of his guys in. That many more schollies to give out.
I don't even really disagree with you beantown, because I'm not sold on Mario at all in the NFL. People can go on and on about his "double move" as long as they want but he's not strong enough to get off the line in the NFL and even have a chance to burn people. I do think AA's game, in theory, translates better to the NFL but he isn't ready right now.
wasup
yeah, i loved it when MM would burn shitty ND DBs but i just don't see him doing the same in the league.
The thing is, if you go back through the past couple drafts and look at WRs taken in the 7th round, almost universally they are cut before the season and re-signed to the practice squad. If they can return kicks, they have a better chance at making the big club.
Obviously, the glaring, neon exception to this is Marques Colston.
dex, i respect your opinion but I bet AA will be better than MM. and i bet everyone disagrees with me.
not me. i always thought MM was a one trick pony w/ the deadly double move. he can't go over the middle & he's not big enough to get by press man in the league. good speed, not great. good hands, not great.
the question about AA is, what did the league's pre-assesment tell him? did it say 2nd, 3rd rnd, pending the combine, wonderlick, etc? or did it say 5th-7th?
they were making comparisons of AA to Colston yesterday.. we'll see how that works out.
the lions picked a half-samoan, which is kind of cool.
i don't understand the underrating of AA. i know 1 game doesn't make your draft status but in the florida game he showed how capable he is when given looks. the guy is athletic as hell and can catch almost anything.
Well, I'm not sure AA isn't going to eventually be better than Mario in the NFL. Quite frankly, I'm not sure either one is going to make it. While I didn't watch much of the draft, I did tune in somewhere in the middle of the 2nd round to hear Ron Jaworski absolutely lambast the entire receiving class for "not being ready" for the NFL (e.g. none of them can consistently get off the LOS). That doesn't bode well for either one of them.
It's possible that Arrington just wanted out of Michigan, and was in no mood to re-earn his starting position. But I have no sympathy for guys like that. If you're a good worker and you have some talent, then "re-earning" your starting position should be no big fucking deal. Guys who fear/loathe re-earning their place on the team are simply guys that fear/loathe challenges.
Maybe Arrington is one of those guys, and maybe he isn't. But regardless, the less of those types of guys on the Michigan squad, the better.
I'd like to see Slocum's Wunderlic, if he takes it.
Q: If rope costs .60 a foot, how much would 12 feet cost?
A: Fuck rope, I got a fuck lion now come fuck wit me. rope aint half as real as my momcs carla. Dat bitch the realest. Im a be a player 4 life.
"Fearthevest"....
This is what happens when we provide internet access to federal prison inmates.
I fail to see how Arrington's stats were underwhelming. As the second option on a run-heavy team, he had 67 catches for 880 yards and 8 TD's.
DeSean Jackson does have return skills that Arrington doesn't, but Jackson was considered a 1st round talent by many...and his numbers were worse in every category (65 rec., 750 yds., 6 TD's).
@beantownblue
Uh, the Florida secondary wasn't very good or very experienced this year. I'm not sure how much potential we're supposed to perceive from a talented guy burning freshmen and sophomores who haven't panned out (yet).
"The thing is, if you go back through the past couple drafts and look at WRs taken in the 7th round, almost universally they are cut before the season and re-signed to the practice squad. If they can return kicks, they have a better chance at making the big club.
Obviously, the glaring, neon exception to this is Marques Colston."
I think Marcus Monk is going to be another exception. The Bears were so desperate for WRs they signed the rotting corpse of Marty Booker and the pile of crap that is Brandon Lloyd, so he should have the opportunity to make the team and make an impact. Monk is 6'4", runs a sub-4.5, and even accomplished the unthinkable task of making Arkansas QBs look occasionally competent. Injury issues this year dropped him, he probably was a mid-round pick if he came out after his junior year. If he's healthy, I don't think there's any way he doesn't make the team, and I can see him playing regularly as a red zone weapon.
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To the bonehead who said that Bo and Lloyd's only obligation is to win period and play the best players is obviously misguided and never played for a successful team. So you play the best players regardless if they broke rules, didn't attend class, didn't put out the effort etc, etc, etc. There is a team that does that currently... they are called the Detroit Lions. Players need to know that everyone needs to follow rules or they won't be playing. RR has already laid down that mantra. You may be a good football player, but if you are not in shape and you haven't put the work in off the field, you won't be seen on the field no matter who you are.
@Magnus
I think you're confusing the words "underwhelming" with "bad." They don't mean the same thing.
When I use the word underwhelming, I mean it from the perspective of an NFL scout or GM who is looking to fill a void on the roster and is looking for a good ROI on millions of dollars that will be thrown at college kids who haven't played a single fucking down in the NFL. They want some sort of assurance that their money isn't going to be wasted. Yes, the draft is a crapshoot, but that doesn't mean the GMs should wantonly gamble on unproven commodities- in fact, it often compels the opposite approach. They are going to spend their high picks on personnel that have shown themselves to be "ready" over a long period of time, preferably several seasons of college ball.
And you're going to tell me that one year in the starting lineup for 800+ yards is worth investing a couple million into him with a second or third round pick? No, no, no. There are a dozen guys with similar stats that could probably either offer more (through special teams play or better physical potential) or could be obtained for much, much less.
Apparently Arrington fits into the latter. When it came time to show the NFL why he was worth a high draft pick, his stats were "underwhelming." Not "bad," mind you, but just "not good enough."
Aaaahhhhhh.....butt plugs are awesome.
There are a dozen guys with similar stats that could probably either offer more (through special teams play or better physical potential) or could be obtained for much, much less.
This. A million times, this.
If you aren't a star, and AA is not a star worthy of star treatment in the NFL, you need something else.
Arrington isn't particularly great at anything. He isn't big, he isn't blazing fast, he's pretty solid at everything, but nothing otherwordly. On top of that, he doesn't return kicks. I'm guessing he isn't going to be real fantastic at playing special teams in general. He doesn't make a strong case for one of the 53 roster spots.
She was underwhelmed, if that's a word
I know it's not 'cause I looked it up
It's one of those skills I learned in my schoo-oo-ool
"He isn't big, he isn't blazing fast, he's pretty solid at everything, but nothing otherwordly. On top of that, he doesn't return kicks."
This describes many of the receivers drafted in the middle rounds.
Arrington fell because of off-field incidents. That's it. New Orleans' GM even said so.
I never said character didn't play in to his fall.
Is there any doubt that Jamison, Graham and Taylor will all be drafted by the Patriots next year? I'm giddy about that. Their front seven will be littered with Wolverines.
And I love Manningham's situation in NY. He has a chance to start out as a slot receiver, and I expect him to be the perfect compliment to Burress in a year or two. Learning from Toomer will help a lot. Mario is a very, very good receiver - he seperates from defenders very well downfield, and you can't downplay how dangerous his double move is. If Henne's brah tattoo didn't hinder his deep ball so much, Mario would have been even more productive.
Speaking of Henne, I will stalk his ever move down in South Florida. Go Blue, brah.
@ cfaller96
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. As the second receiver in a run-heavy offense, I don't see how 67 catches, 880 yards, and 8 touchdowns is underwhelming. It's pretty f-ing good, actually.
I know, dex. I didn't mean to imply that was part of your argument. I was just tossing it out there.
Magnus,
Right. His prehistoric 40 time and streaky production at Michigan had nothing to do with it.
Convicted criminals were going 3-4 rounds before the guy. There's more to it than just off-field incidents.
the nfl sucks. i hope it gets destroyed by a steroids investigation the same way baseball has.
You know who's going to be footballs Jose Canseco?
Vernon Gholston. Lock it up.
If you hate the NFL, you hate America, you pinko terrorist homo.
@Magnus
Again, you're saying something is "pretty f-ing good" as a rebuttal to something being "underwhelming." I don't know why you cling to the idea that underwhelming == bad. That's not necessarily true, it all depends on the perspective from which you're judging.
You can put up "pretty f-ing good" stats in college ball that will impress me, Lloyd Carr, RichRod, etc. to the point that we like and want those stats and that talent to stay at Michigan. At the same time, however, those very same stats still look "underwhelming" to an NFL scout or GM.
The two terms are NOT mutually exclusive, IMO.
@ Huss
Brandon Flowers, a cornerback (which is a position where speed is much more necessary than WR), was drafted early on Day 1. He and Arrington ran very similar 40 times.
Also, Arrington was Michigan's most consistent receiver, in my opinion. I don't see him as streaky, unless you mean he just didn't catch many balls while Henne was locked onto Manningham. That's like blaming Arrington for Hart's high number of carries.
Yes, Dex, hating an alleged "sport" that has devolved into a three hour reality television show chock full of manufactored drama, product placement, and intolerable talking heads is directly akin to being a homosexual terrorist who seeks the wide spread acceptance of marxist doctrines.
Correction. If you hate the Lions, you hate America. Caleb Campbell automatically lifts the Lions above the Pats and Colts in my book. If you disagree, why do you hate our troops so much?
Arrington was our most consistent receiver?
Mario set a Michigan record with like 6 or 7 straight 6 catch/100 yard games didn't he? How much more consistent can you get than that? And before his injury in '06, he was on pace to put up otherworldly statistics.
I'm glad you can agree, BGH. Now kindly stop trying to teach children the ways of the gay and telling them about their capitalist pig parents.
@ cfaller96
My point is, they're only "underwhelming" if you don't look at what else was going on on the field.
If you consider the fact that Manningham had over 1,000 yards, Hart had over 1,000 yards, and we played a couple games with a scatter-brained, scatter-armed freshman quarterback, I would contend that his stats were nothing near "underwhelming."
In my opinion.
You cannot, per se, teach children the ways of the gay. You must, instead, show them.
I take my duty quite seriously.
@ Huss
Yes, Manningham had an excellent STREAK of games. But if I needed a big catch, I would throw the ball to Arrington. He consistently made tough catches. Henne just had to put it near him.
The most consistent receiver Michigan has ever had: David Terrell. Whatever happened to that guy?
Antonio Bass wasn't bad either.
My point is, they're only "underwhelming" if you don't look at what else was going on on the field.
Which is, for the most part, what NFL scouts and GMs are going to be doing. They're going to evaluate Adrian Arrington, not Adrian Arrington in a run-heavy offense opposite Mario Manningham with QB injuries and [NAME REDACTED] calling the plays.
Quite frankly, they neither have time, the money, or the inclination to muddy up their eval picture with the context of a "run-heavy offense" or "stats a #2 WR should get" or whatever other stuff you want to throw out there to gussy up Arrington's resume. That kind of context probably doesn't help them evaluate Arrington, I bet.
And they could be wrong. Arrington could turn out to be a wonderful WR and a great value at the 7th round. But given his stats and his tenure at Michigan, to expect him to be drafted high was pure folly (which has been my point all along). Right or wrong, the NFL scouts were NOT going to be impressed enough to spend that kind of dough on him. It just wasn't going to happen.
And I don't understand why I should defend this point. The bottom line is, Adrian Arrington wasn't drafted very high. If someone wants to claim that the NFL is wrong and should have drafted him higher because of hidden potential, have at it. Rant on about how NFL scouts are stupid or regularly miss out on sure things or overspend on guys that haven't shown production on the field. For the most part, I'm with you on that- the NFL has a weird habit of becoming an echo chamber around draft time, irrationally spiking or dumping guys on little more than gossip or rumors.
But don't claim that the NFL purposefully overlooked Arrington's talent and production. That's absurd- these guys are picked over with a fine-toothed comb for months, and plenty of clubs saw enough of Arrington to make their judgments, accurate or not. And collectively, the NFL passed on Arrington for several rounds. Given that, you can't claim that his production at Michigan demanded a much higher draft premium. Clearly, it didn't, because if that were true, somebody would have picked him up in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds.
I'm not claiming they overlooked his talent and/or production. I think they do more homework than a lot of people give them credit for.
I'm just stating that his talent and production are worth more than a 7th round pick.
However, I've stated this before: I think this is proof that teams are taking the Pacman Jones/Chris Henry rules seriously, and his character issues caused him to free-fall.
I think that AA made the right choice even with falling to round 7.
Looking at the fall of many of the elite players from year to year (Brohm, the USC Olineman, etc..), makes me think that the NFL is certainly drafting for recent production more than the whole body of work. With a new quarterback, AA would have struggled stats-wise this year and he knew it.
If he has the talents to make it, it will become apparent in the rookie squad if not at training camp. He has a year to impress people. I don't think that top talent will go unrecognized by the pros and I don't think that AA's game would change much in one year (save for a miraculous Barwis transformation).
And as for Hart, talk about stumbling into a great situation.
How is losing to the Pats twice a year a great situation? Oh, I get it- because he has a QB who has experience in that and can help him deal with it. Good for him.
BGH:
I searched for some good t-rex and wolf pics this weekedn to photoshop and came up with very little. Any news on the artistic friends front? ThiS MUST happen.
@magnus
Well, that's a different issue, and I take no position on whether Arrington will end up being a great value at the 7th round. He may be great, or he may be nothing. I have no special knowledge about what it takes to be productive in the NFL. Besides, even if he ends up being great, then it will be because of hidden value, not due to some obvious value that was there in plain sight but was just ignored by the NFL (in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th rounds).
Having claimed no special knowledge on players' future potential in the NFL, however, it's very clear to me that in order to be drafted high, you have to show something in advance that separates you from the rest of the pack at your position. You have to be (for your position) superfast, superbig, superproductive, or some scintillating combination of those traits.
What exactly did Arrington show the NFL that separated him from the rest of the receivers looking for spots on NFL rosters? Superfast? No. Superbig? Eh, kind of, I guess. Superproductive? No (800+ yards is good, but not "super").
Arrington may be a diamond in the rough, but for him to have expected to be drafted high based on his production as it stands now was foolish, IMO.
Toomer doesn't seem like the type of guy to take a MM under his wing. MM would be better off with the Browns and Braylon Edwards. Toomer is much older for one thing and kind of seems like a jerk. The fact that he didn't like Lloyd means that he has less in common with MM. I could be wrong.
I heard that Braylon was involved with the team in the past few years while he was on the Browns, and he even helped out MM with some debts that he accrued (probably from buying weed). Edwards and Romeo Crennel would not stand for any of MM's antics and would help get him to shape up. This is not to say that Coughlin would let MM do whatever he wants--he'll be really tough on MM, no doubt--but I think that Crennel and Edwards would be better role models and do a better job of setting MM straight.
Also, I fucking hate the Giants.
Adrian Arrington has been praised for his fearlessness in making a play in traffic. Sounds about right.
The Colts have won a Super Bowl more recently than the Pats. Just sayin'.
Personally I hope both franchises are someday swallowed up by the Earth and never heard from again.
Ninja: I'm going to talk to some people this week. I'm even willing to pay for a good image, if need be. Send me an e-mail (hopptm@gmail.com) if you want for me to keep you posted.
Also, here's a "Marinelli Guy" for those of you inclined to believe the Loins are headed upwards:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs...408/1004/
SPORTS
Same old fucking Loins.
@Dex
Where in THE fuck did you find that "Shoot the balls" picture?
OSU got another 4 star commit.
I used to not care about the Giants, but I never liked those fucking '72 Dolphins and their narcissistic celebrations when great teams lose. There's just something about celebrating another team losing that rubs me the wrong way. Maybe it's just too Michigan State-ish for me.
Anyhoo, since the Giants ruined one of the best chances to totally and finally shut those Dolphins up, I now officially hate the New York Fucking Giants. Assholes.
I'm glad Hart got drafted, but it makes me sad to think he will be protecting Manning from harm in 3rd & long situations.
Fred@1:28 --
"He was the best pass blocking rb ever at Michigan..."
Which is what I thought, and why I was so completely baffled by the Scouts Inc comment on ESPN on his drafting:
"At one time he was a first-round prospect, but he dropped due to pre-draft workouts. He is a natural runner who displays great patience setting up his blocks. He is very slippery and is able to break arm tackles. But he is very undersized, lacks top-end speed and shows an inability to be very helpful in pass-protection."
Um, WTF?
Fucking hell. Goddamn Brew Crew. It reminds me of the group of dumbass jocks in The Program.
Top 25 OL prospects for 2003
1 Jorrie Adams
Jasper (TX) OL 6-7/275 Texas A&M
2 Martin O'Donnell
Downers Grove (IL) Downers Grove South OL 6-5/290 Illinois
3 Ryan Poles
Canandaigua (NY) Academy OL 6-5/290 Boston College
4 Brian Daniels
Denver (CO) Mullen OL 6-4/280 Colorado
5 Joel Holler
Lancaster (PA) JP McCaskey OL 6-6/330 Penn State
6 Donovan Davis
Jackson (MS) Callaway OL 6-7/330 Mississippi State
7 Aubrey McPhadden
Jacksonville (FL) First Coast OL 6-6/320 Florida State
8 Eric Young
Union (SC) OL 6-4/260 Tennessee
9 Will Arnold
Centreville (MS) Centreville Academy OL 6-5/325 LSU
10 Adam Kraus
New Orleans (LA) Brother Martin OL 6-6/270 Michigan
11 Steven Jones
Brentwood (TN) OL 6-6/291 Tennessee
12 Trey Chandler
Buford (GA) OL 6-6/255 Georgia
13 Aaron Sears
Russellville (AL) OL 6-4/300 Tennessee
14 Ryan Schuler
Sioux Falls (SD) Washington OL 6-7/270 Nebraska
15 David Price
Jacksonville (FL) Mandarin OL 6-5/315 Mississippi State
16 Mike Jones
Oak Lawn (IL) HL Richards OL 6-5/305 Iowa
17 Matt Welsh
Clifton (VA) Centreville OL 6-5/275 Virginia Tech
18 Joe Thomas
Brookfield (WI) Central OL 6-7/270 Wisconsin
19 Tyler Luellen
Bethany (MO) South Harrison OL 6-7/275 Missouri
20 Brandon Keith
McAlester (OK) OL 6-6/320 Oklahoma
21 Jake Long
Lapeer (MI) East H.S. OL 6-7/295 Michigan
22 Akim Millington
Wheaton (IL) Wheaton North OL 6-6/320 Oklahoma
23 Justin Moon
Guntersville (AL) OL 6-5/290 Alabama
24 Julius Orieukwu
Houston (TX) Bellaire OL 6-7/260 Arizona State
25 Travis Draper
Paso Robles (CA) Paso Robles OL 6-4/270 Southern Cal
The comment on Hart about "shows an inability to be very helpful in pass-protection" simply convinces me that the scouts aren't watching the same sport that we are. The vagaries of the draft baffle me, year after year. Why do "pre-draft workouts" count for more than a 4-year body of work?
@H for H
According to the list you just posted....WTF went wrong with Tennessee?
Any word on where the Beaver is heading? I noticed both Rivals and Scout are talking about him making a decision soon.
3 lineman in the top 13....
Part of the importance of the combine is to see how they react to a high pressure situation. The players knows its coming, he knows it is important, and he knows a lot of scouts will be watching. I would also be interested in seeing how they peform in that situation - not unlike how a bad interview can cost you a job you may be perfectly qualified for.
Hart lacks top-end helpfulness (in pass protection).
For what it is worth, I can kinda see how Hart might have problems blocking up a guy like Shawne Merriman in the league.
Anyhoo, since the Giants ruined one of the best chances to totally and finally shut those Dolphins up, I now officially hate the New York Fucking Giants. Assholes.
Fwiw, the Pats are still pursuing the trademark on "19-0", and with their schedule they could actually pull it off. The two games I see being a problem would be Indy and Pittsburgh.
lets get more recruits
This post is underwhelming.
I want an "Emu for Heisman" T-shirt.
Mzone has a nice Clausen for Heisman tee.
I agree Tonya, it is always disappointing for a post here to be underwhelming.
@Ninja football
I'm a Pats fan, and I'd love to see them make another run at it, but...I just don't see it happening. That defense isn't good enough to uphold perfection over 19 games, and the offense is probably never going to be as good as it was this year. Besides, I'd gladly trade a run for perfection if it helped the club improve its chances at a Super Bowl championship (and I know that kinda sounds nonsensical, but hopefully you know what I mean).
IMO, the Pats need to do some serious retooling in the trenches on BOTH sides of the ball. Otherwise, they'll constantly see repeats of the Colts, Ravens, and Giants games from last year.
college fball is exponentially more interesting than the nfl. ps, how sweet would there was a draft for college football?
actually nevermind, that wouldn't be sweet at all.
... except for the kids that want to go to a specific school...
@cfaller96:
Yeah, I'd rather have them lose the first weekend and just get it over with.
If the Pats even come close to an undefeated season this year I'll eat my computer.
alright, i'm just throwing this out there so take it for what it's worth. buuut, who wants to get a 'alumni/fan fund' together with the intention of perhaps, who knows, possibly, luring recruits to Michigan? i know there is a law school alum who can figure out the schematics behind this.
What kind of wine goes best with an '05 Pentium 4?
Is your computer made out of sausage? I'll help if it is.
dex:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PXeAG2VuBo0
that's how.
I knew what that clip was before I opened it, but I'd like to point out Mike Hart isn't MoJo Drew.
haha.
Yeah, you're right though. Drew wasn't as good of a blocker as Mike in college.
I think we're all missing the real story from Brian's post: Amberly Richardson of AZRedReport.com.
The more I think about it, the more I think that Tressel's "...only among the gentlemen" quote was his cheeseball way of saying "That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard."
Also, having grown up in central Ohio, I can attest to one thing: Dispatch == local-yokel newsletter.
I'm a Pats fan too. Appalachian St numbed me enough to not be as badly affected by the Super Bowl loss, but it really sucks. Can the Pats go 19-0 this time? I had to reassure my 6-yr-old cousin that teams usually come back with a vengeance after such a loss, but that is not really the case most of the time.
I think that that the Pats still have a great offense, although they need to spread it around the field more now that teams are putting quadruple coverage on Randy Moss. The defense is old and needs new faces. Hopefully Pierre Woods, Crable, and Mayo can take the reins.
Amberly? I, um, "dated" an Amberly once, I wonder if that's her. Not sure I ever knew her last name, and if I did I forgot it long, long ago.
Question:
A lot of UM players went further than expected. Do any of you think this is because of the coaching staff? Could any, all or some of the following be reasons for scouts to look at UM and underrate or pick UM players later.
-Poor development in S&C
-Poor use in schemes (DeBord)
-Lack or hype coming from the program about players. (Same would apply for Heisman campaigns and the what not)
-Poor coaching fundamentally
I ask because UM ran a pro-style offense, and put up good numbers (I'm talking about the last 3-5 years), had big time recruits and has a tradition of putting players in the league. Could scouts look at the staff and say that these kids are so underdeveloped or misused that they are not worth drafting right away? I have no empirical data, just going on a hunch.
Discuss now!!!!
Oh, and crazy thing, but I am 99% sure that I had an actual panic attack during the App St game. I was only able to follow the score on ESPN (fuck you BTN) and when I found out that we were down 31-20, I was practically on the floor gasping for air, and I am only in my 20s and in otherwise good condition. It's sad, I know.
mike,
okay, of course a kid's off-field conduct needs to be taken into account. I figured that was point was a given in the interest of brevity. However, there were a few instances where a kid plays or doesn't play for no apparently good reason and lots of us have said to ourselves..WTF???
Massey, Woods, Thompson, Englemon, Blown-Armed Henne vs. OSU, Kraus-Not-At-Center, Hart Sitting vs Appy State Then Coming Back In And Running For A 55 YD TD, Riley The Gimo At Tackle Not Guard, etc, etc.
Is all of this "Sunday Morning Quarterbacking"?
Hell Yes, it is.
Is that my God-given right as a freedom-loving American?
Hell Yes, it is.
Who is this OL you talk about committing to OSU? Scout has a three star from (where else) Ohio committing.
Cory Linsley, from some shit hole in Ohio, and that gives the Buckeyes two OL recruits. As long as they get fucks like this, that leaves guys like Hall, Watt, Nixon, etc for Michigan hopefully.
And it MIGHT be a good time for RR and Co to start chasing these OL's and DL's to the ends of the Earth! And BEYOND!
Ha, I see the goddamned fo$u trolls immediately stopped responding once the commenters showed the obvious flaw in their "logic". amd, of course, they are the suckeyes. they don't actually have intelligence.
you're going down the toilet fo$u, and you're taking toilet paper with you.
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Update on the new blog
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now anonymous posters can comment.
barking sphincter - we have no shot with hall. it's unfortunate he doesn't know how to read a depth chart.
but it has more to do with the fact that he plays for cleveland-glenville than anything else. ted ginn sr hates him some wolverines.
@Tim Waymen
Even though my cable package did have the BTN at that time, it didn't matter for me personally. I was driving back from somewhere (visit to the in-laws?), and could only hear updates come in periodically on ESPN radio. I had the steering wheel in a death grip for a couple of hours, and then after it was all over, I had to stop myself from screaming at my wife "Fire Lloyd Carr!" 10 million times. 1 million times, yes, but 10 million times would have earned me a divorce.
Greg Frey is 35 and still physically fit. This coach not only knows whaat he's doing, he's young enough to get in the trenches and SHOW our kids how to do it.
Mike Hart is goin to watch our team block this Fall and want to 1) throw up, and 2) punch Andy Moeller in the face.
Greg Frey also knows what conference he's in.
My balls are falling off...
Is all of this "Sunday Morning Quarterbacking"?
Hell Yes, it is.
Is that my God-given right as a freedom-loving American?
Hell Yes, it is.
caup | 04.28.08 - 4:55 pm | #
Other than my alter ego Poo Flingin' McGee, I's have to say that is my nominee for quote of the day.
As for The Horror, I was house-sitting and more concerned with that sideline reporter, I just never, ever, ever thought we'd lose it. And then we did, and I opened a pint of Jack, moved the tv to the deck, and drank myself silly in the hot-tub. All of this after I found myself waking from a catatonic state, curled up on their living room floor three hours later, of course.
Y'know, it's funny, but alot of the Blue Aide Drinking Neurotics on Scout didn't want Moeller or Campbell fired. They thought those two were good coaches who had contacts and that would benefit the new Rich Rodriguez Machine.
That is all you need to know about Scout Nerotics. Many of them will make you afraid for humanity.
There's one guy on there who puts a picture of himself holding his baby, and this dude is butt fuck ugly. He's either trolling for dates, or no one has bothered to tell him his fuck ugly fuckface is going all over the intranets.
NCP, I've got two words for you:
Duct tape.
jim west, y'all, desperado, rough rider
nana nan nana nana nanan nannaaa na
Will Smiff checking in. Go make another horrible movie.
Will Smiff checking in. Go make another horrible movie.
The Barking Sphincter | 04.28.08 - 5:29 pm | #
and the house wuz shakin'
and the base wuz shakin'
ps: i banged your mom
Well I hope you did a good job. I'm surprised, because she usually prefers her men to have a penis!
barking spincter, for your information, i have a giant black wiener. so big, it was once labeled an "enemy of the state"
nanana nan anan anan na naaaa
I'll make a note of that.
So I've decided to drink my mandatory draft day beer tonight while playing poker, instead of Saturday. Stay tuned for craziness.
Hey Dex- smackoff tomorrow?
Re: the Maurice Jones-Drew/Mike Hart comparison...
Mojo is around 6 kajillion times stronger than Hart. And faster.
which is bigger, 6 kajillion or eleventy billion?
Haha that wasn't me. My balls are still here. People be hatin on the North Campus Pakistani
Oh baby shavodrick my beaver! shavodrick my beaver!
Oh lookie here! I've stumbled across eHarmony! Hello Mr Smith!
Oh baby shavodrick my beaver! shavodrick my beaver!
Justin Boren | 04.28.08 - 5:45 pm | #
where's your family values'/ everyone knows that god-fearing christians only go after the unshaved beaver. shaved beavers are for exhibitionists, only.
maurice drew is borderline retarded. he was on espn recently and goddamn, it was painful. ok so he may not be borderline retarded but he isn't cut out for television.
WTF?
I take a vacation and this board gets so f'ing juvenile. There are bits of wisdom and insight here and there but most most of these comments are not worth reading. Cannot all of you 12 year old newbies get your own page and let the rest of us talk football?
i let TP shavodrick my beaver the other day. the brew crew and tressel were watchin too, it was sweet.
i heard the brew crew travels exclusively by jeep, because they are fuckin extreme bros like that
I'm with ya Bo's Ghost. It was so much better before the family values broke down on this board. And before they let "them" on our football team. Kevin Newsome playin QB? man, i'm gonna be sick. it was okay when they were just running the ball, but this is just sick. what's right is right, that's what my pa always taught me.
@Bo's Ghost:
Is it too much to ask for a bit of levity throughout the day? There's not an incredible breadth of football topics to discuss. And btw, you're just egging them on.
Amen ta that Justin. Okay, I'm going to get in my model t now so i can make it to ann arbor by labor day weekend to root for our boys! Go BIG Blue! And support the men of our armed forces overseas fighting the evil nazis and japanese! huzza!
i heard the brew crew travels exclusively by jeep, because they are fuckin extreme bros like that
big gay heart | 04.28.08 - 5:51 pm | #
i heard the brew crew travels exclusively by jeep, because they are fuckin extreme bros like that, brah.
Fixed.
And for fuck's sake, what do the NY Giants (Big Blue) have to do with this.
It's "Go Blue!". Glad we got that straight. Now go make me a sandwich.
jeeps are sweet brah
bgh - It's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand.
the ultimate jeep brah:
http://i44.photobucket.com/
album...928834991_l.jpg
Is that Busch Light? Only people who enjoy incest and hangovers drink Busch Light.
JUST COME ON DOWN TO TRESSELS JEEP N DRINK LOCATED AT 555 FUKSTIK AVE
WELL GETYA A SCHOLLT A JEEP AND A SIX PACK . BAD CREDIT, NO CREDIT, POLICE RECORD BO PROBLEM. WE TAKEM ALL
Can a Jeep do this?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l...h?
v=lbxBFb3A5ak
Brew Crew jeep = jeep in Zoolander with Ben Stiller and three other male models
Only pic I can find; looking for others
http://graysmatter.codivation.co...y/
Zoolander.jpg
so brewster and me was listening to some seether the other day and he started getting all teary-eyed and i was like wats up brah? and he said that the song reminded him of this bitch he used to fuck. and i said don't worry brah there's tons of hot bitches in the world!
Whats up losers?
Yo man, Marcus Hall is black slave.
Brahs, we should have an Mgoblog drinking competition to see who can get their liver to shut down first, brah.
I know I'd win because my bosses are the biggest enablers ever brah!
Justin,
We gotta take a shit together.
Bros dat dump 2gether hump 2gether.
Brew Crew 4lyfe.
right on mike, i feel like pinching off a giant brown trout right now. just let me finish this mt. dew and i'll be right over.
ps do you like josie scott? next to chad krueger i think he's the fuckin sweetest
@Bluewolverine:
Unless you once worked in a bar where they served 80-100 bottles of Jager on a weekly basis and your boss called "staff meetings" (read: Everyone drop everything and come do a shot) 6 times a night, I think I've got you beat on the enabling thing. Thanks god I got off that island.
Ah here we go
The official Brew Crew Mobile
http://www.motherflash.com/graph...s/pat/
jeep2.jpg
wait until you guys see this growth on shugart's ball sack!
Ninja-
Goddammit.
Oh well, at least I spent most of Saturday night getting hammered on 18 year old Glenlivet in a sweet ass whiskey lounge.
@Bluewolverine:
Any openings where you work? Scotch is the magic word.
Ninja-
Yes, plenty of openings for engineers and software monkeys here in Rochester, NY.
The sad part of my story is that this whiskey lounge is 90 miles away in Syracuse, NY.
Getting a bottle from the liquor store and sitting home just ain't the same...
http://ozarksfirst.com/media_pla...?
media_id=34761
lmao John Daly golfing without shirt or shoes loks like brew crew material
Joe is the Walrus...Koo Koo Ka Choo
OSU becoming the USC of the Midwest? 12 freakin' recruits already? And a bunch of top 100 picks in there to boot. Dammit! We got a streak to break!
You can all jump on me about how recruiting rankings don't matter now. And we'll be fine and yadda yadda. I'm over playing second fiddle to sweater vest. "Rebuilding" officially sucks.
troll
Looks like Forcier just had a little meet and great with RR.
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=...2%
2f750901.html
I'm with ya, Anonymous. Goddamm, Michigan doesn't play second fiddle to anyone. It's time, right fuckin NOW for Rodriguez to get out there and sign some goddamm recruits.
By the way, something is going down, and over at Scout they've got the neurotics in a tizzy. Seems like something might happen tomorrow or even before that with regard to either Shaved Beaver or Tits Forcier.
I mean, if you're gonna name a kid "Tate" (which IS cool BTW), why not just name him "Tits" instead?
We're gonna lock up Newsome, Forcier the Frenchman, and shaved beave in this class! Plus McGuffie will play QB when Antonio Bass is hurt!!!
New Blog up at Scout: Tits Forcier says he'll make a decision after summer camps. Neurotics calling for Shaved beaver. Sky falling. Details at 11.
Hey WTXBlue,
I found an updated pic of the Brew Crew Mobile:
http://img212.imageshack.us/
img2...ewmobileti0.jpg
Sphincter:
Check out the Woodson punt return video from '97. One of the guys on the video on top of the pile at the end is my cousin. He's #42. First name = Tate. True story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=p...feature=related
Please note: viewing the above video could induce goosebumps or spontaneous hetero wood.
Ninja - There is no such thing as hetero wood when it comes to Woodson. I'm straight gay for him, and I think everyone here would agree. If you don't you're in the closet. NTTAWWT.
Well, Woodson is hot, but then he opens his mouth and can barely speak English. In fact, "gibberish" might be too strong a word for the garbled mumbo jumbo that he can barely spit out without pulling a hammy. I like my men intelligent.
Is this thing on???
Tate Forcier's real first name is Robert. I have no fuckin idea why he would go by Tate.
Because my cousin has a NC ring, and he, too, wants a NC ring. That's my theory.
Let's see: "Bob" or "Tate: He Man Quarterback God"?
It's an easy choice.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sp...1s18p-
note.html
Bobby Bouchet Forcier sounds good.
Can't have a French sounding name. Bouchet is too close to "douche".
That's the first time I've seen Tits Forcier listed at anything above 6 feet. 6'2???
Her is a good picture of Bobby Douche Forcier.
http://images.smarter.com/blogs/...gs/
waterboy.jpg
Don't know if I'm the only movie geek around here, but I found this interesting....
http://www.filmdrunk.com/post.ph...t.phtml?
pk=1633
ninja
Is your cousin tate shanski I'm from his hometown if it is.
Anon:
Name his hometown and I'll shit. Better yet, name the mascot of the local HS, and the name of the only sports bar in said town. I graduated from there when he was a freshman. _________ HS class of 1992.
Damn it! I knew I shouldn't give out clues to my identity!
Ninja -
I'm a huge movie buff myself.
I saw the Dark Night trailer in theaters last friday (during harold and kumar) - looks awesome.
Iron man also looks fucking sweet.
JHS:
I'm almost as excited about Iron Man as I am about football season. Just looks effing sweet, and I'm not a comic book guy in general. Thinking about checking out a streamed version of Harold and Kumar tonight, actually.
I have a feeling Anon is doing research on my actual identity and the paparazzi will show up any minute. Damn the man!
Interesting: Isaiah Bell was already invited to the Under Armour All American Game. Odd because he isn't rated that highly yet. I think he could be a big riser.
Ninja - if you liked the original harold and kumar - you'll like the second.
I thought it was funny as shit, its basically the same movie as the first but with new jokes.
I used to be in to comics and have been disappointed with the Marvel films in general - the only one I really liked was X-Men 2, although I still disagree with the decision to change the teams unique customs into a uniform look.
As soon as the spiderman movies revealed that movie spidey shot web from his wrists they became shit to me, spiders shoot web of their ass.
Iron Man looks awesome though and seems pretty true to the original source.
and class of 1992? I'm impressed that an old timer is on the interwebs...
(big grin)
Anyone happen to notice that Mark "Tit-head" D'Antonio has raided just about every **** in-state prep for 2009? He's following the sweatervest axiom of dominating all recruiting in-state. RichRod take note--don't forget our in-state boys!
Yeah JHS, you can't expect to have my personal stable of life experiences (hot-tubbing w/ 13 lingerie models at the Ritz in St. Thomas and dating Miss Teen USA Maine, who was 11 years my junior are a few personal faves) without being an old fucker like I am. Cheers!
ninja
Perry ramblers. the only bars currently there are charlie's and cafe sports. charlie's used to be called something different. i graduted from there in 03
JT=anon from before
Does anyone remember the name of the website that semi-recently put together some kind of chart seeing which blogs got the most hits?
It had football, basketball, baseball, etc...
Nice JT!!!!!!!!!!
I have a feeling you would know (of) my family. Maybe not, but probably so. Small f-ing world.
actually i'm good friends with shane, who i assume is also your cousin
Not so much. Clue #2.
Email me if you want. buon111 at gmail.com
Otherwise I'm done with the discussion, I'm rather private about family stuff.
(Never figured someone would connect those dots. Another Rambler? WTF?)
Ninja I'm just amazed you are class of '92 I'm class of '02 any my little bro's friends think I'm fucking old.
Nice job on updated Brew Crew mobile, Ninja Football
The Buffalo Bills logo imposed on the Ohio State logo is priceless
That is an insult to my buffalo bills
I'm really pissed at Ninja Football
that guy has no respect.
I'll buy everyone here a bubble tea if Atlanta beats Boston today.
Hahah I'm class of '01 and no one believes that I am the age I am.
WTX:
Wish that was Ninja original, it hails from the MZone. Anyone who doesn't frequent that site is missing out.
JHS:
You're never too old to not grow up. You just get older, and make different (and hopefully more enlightened) mistakes. Case in point: the stripper. Although at my age I should've seen that coming. I still think she was a Tressell plant to undermine our fanbase.
I'm not one who considers Michigan High School football that much of a recruiting bonanza. Maybe one to three real good prospects per year, sometimes 5. Shit, occassionally ten.
Seriously, I do hope RR does what Lloyd seemed to try to do: Snag the top three, a couple more from Michigan's top ten, and then go out of state. Michigan high school talent has been better the last two years than it has for awhile. I hope RR keeps UM in the mix for the best kids.
Rod should recruit who he thinks will help him win the most, nothing more or less (I think he already proved he will do this by passing over little Boren)
There is no reason to tie down the top rated in state talent unless it's something they think they can work with...
If the wins come, the top ranked kids will want to play for UM.
OMG RR DOESN'T HAVE 12 4-STARS ALREADY WE ALL GON DIEEEEEE!!!!!11111
Let State keep offering kids that weren't ever gonna get a look from the new UM. We'll be fine with guys from Texas, Fla, Penn, and Ohio who would have never ever considered Sparty.
And I'm not sure why everyone seems to be so shocked that OSU is getting top recruits - they've been to back to back NC games, only missed the BCS in two of Tressel's years, three big ten titles in a row, etc. I bet a lot of these top guys are going to OSU because they beleive they are gonna be the guy who puts OSU over the top in these title games they've been getting their ass kicked in.
Also a lot of these recruits are darsches (namely the brew crew) who are a great fit for OSU.
No respect for who? You? That's because I think you're sharp as marbles and deserve to get bitten by a rabid chipmunk and fall down a well.
Ninja
Or fucked by homosexual squirrel.
T would never wish such a putrid fate upon a homosexual squirrel.
As soon as the spiderman movies revealed that movie spidey shot web from his wrists they became shit to me, spiders shoot web of their ass JHS
I think the whole super hero thing is an exercise in homoeroticism. Usually these guys are flawed, alone, we never see them at a bar saying something like "Hey, wanna see me leap over a tall building? With you, naked, in my arms?" or something like "Hey, you ever give a blow job to a Batman?"
Man, talk about missing out on a pussyfest.
I mean, am I the ONLY guy who wonders about someone who jumps into a phone booth to change into tights and a cape?
And all these fuckers wear leotards and have capes. It's as if they failed the audition for Queer Eye for the Straight Guy because they were TOO gay.
Tate Schanski is the cousin wearing 42, right?
"Tate Schanski is the cousin wearing 42, right?"
I didn't scroll up far enough, I see someone else already got it. I remember the name... not too many Tates or Schanskis around.
Along the superheroes being agy lines: I think Kool Aid man is a pedophile. Who else bust into a room full of kids, looks around, and says: "OHHHHH YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!"?
Barking Sphincter- you are dead nuts right.
Batman would pull some serious tail. I could picture him, guzzling a Starbucks on an early mornind crime call, nursing a bit of a hangover.
"hey Robin, nailed some A-1 tail last night little buddy. Wanna smell my fingers?"
Class of 1992? Man, Ninja, you are one old motherfucker.
Class of 2003 here.
1st, Perry High school, perry high school, on to vic-tor-y! (sung to On Wisc)
Tate Shanski & the perry ramblers..... ho-ly shite.
when every someone says his name in that town, you are required by law to kneel and say "PBUH."
you guys just just went down a notch, brah.
Did I hear we are going on a homosexual squirrel hunt? I thought that was a BGH thing?
So Mon... errrr, Tuesday Recruiting is going to be a bit bare this week huh?
Class of 2005
Guess I'm not too old then hehe
fuck you guys.
Hey, I'm HS class of '92 too, and if you think I'm old you can blow me*
* you are not, in fact, allowed to blow me.
I'll blow you. Class of '84
i can blow myself.
Where's chunks ?
Hey, my name is Bobby Boucher, not Bouchet!
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