first
great to see Lloyd lobbying for players to stay and finish their degree. I can only hope AA was listening to that.
Hung over.
Saw Crable's comments live(-ish) on BTN following the game, and the reaction of the in-studio guys was priceless too. pretty funny. I was just glad to see someone on the team call Herbie out for one of many crap comments on UM throughout the year...
To borrow again from Valenti:
PLAYS: MADE
PUCKERING: NONE
Coach Carr's statement was pure class. Thanks, coach.
With this game, and the arrival of Coach Zoom-Zoom, maybe Henri the Otter of Ennui can just relocate to that school down south.
I wonder if Mallett will consider Henne's success yesterday out of those numerous spread packages if he's seriously thinking about transferring. Maybe he isn't the ideal QB for said system, but I think he can work in it.
And where were these packages all season?!?
Funny story: the first time I ever met Lloyd Carr was in the visitors' locker room after the 1995 Indiana game, down in Bloomington.
I shook his hand and complimented him on a great game (W,34-17).
He was gracious and polite.
He was also buck naked.
Anyone have video from Mike Hart on ESPN's First Take this morning?
We're taking screen-names from Nazi generals now? Little scary.
Yeah, Nazi generals are so passe. Go with Imperial German generals instead
Thoughts on the game:
- When I turned on the TV and saw it was a cool, cloudy, drizzly Big-10 sort of day, I thought "Game On!!".
- Tim Tebow is a nice QB . . . he's no Chad Henne though. Seriously.
- You could have made some serious cash of off me if you bet me that Lloyd Carr (and Mike DeBord and Ron English) would ever out-coach Demi-God Urban Meyer in a bowl game, especially simultaneously on both Offence and Defense.
- I felt like I was watching someone else's team. I don't think I could even count on one hand the number of 1st down Dive's into the left of the line or Butler holding call's or Crable personal foul's. Did we run the TE Waggle even once?
- Lloyd Carr is the official S.E.C. Killer. See Bucknuts, this is how it's done. You're welcome.
- The S.E.C. reputation of Speed is a myth. The Big-10 reputation of Power is not.
- I hope Rich was taking good notes. He's got some real thoroughbreds now that can be scary-good when well motivated and conditioned. He does not have to out-scheme himself with Short Stacks and Bed Spreads and No Parking Zones and whatever.
- There's another vague thought in my head . . . something about what could have been and why wait until the very last game to do this? For the sake of my sanity, I shall repress it.
From a Notre Dame fan, that was pretty cool to see Lloyd get that win yesterday, and it was pretty cool to see the class he's always had, and that it triumphed over a sleezeball like Meyer.
So congrats Big Blue, after the year the midwest has had this year, we all needed that win.
"Lloyd how would you like to be remembered as a Michigan man?"
"That's just it, a Michigan Man"
Thanks for the win Lloyd, you, the program, the fans, alumni, we all deserved this win
GO BLUE
i've seen these jokes a few times now... but what's with naked lloyd? i must have missed something.
At the end, does Crable say "all you can say is thanks to God and Arrington"?
It might have been "and everything", but I kinda like the other way better.
What's happening on the Pryor Mallett front? Pryor is wearing maize and blue around the Army camp but what color are his knickers?
I just wish I knew how to end my fucking sciatica.
Helmut von Moltke was an interesting character. I believe that his son was Hitler's AG and hung after the attempt on Hilter's life.
Man, that highlight video sure shows how much ass Arrington kicked. Just watching the game, it didn't jump out at me the way it did here. That was an Edwards-esque performance.
from Eric Adelson's article at ESPN.com about the game yesterday:
"Surely even Buckeyes fans grinned a little as Midwest brawn pounded Southeast brains."
Brains?
FWIW, Rommel was not a Nazi. He was, in fact, instrumental in the failed plot to assasinate Hitler, and was forced to commit suicide in order to spare his family in the aftermath.
Now, back to football.
Rommel=Nazi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=f...feature=related
just in case you don't remember why Herbie will never be objective about Michigan...
FWIW, Rommel was not a Nazi. He was, in fact, instrumental in the failed plot to assasinate Hitler, and was forced to commit suicide in order to spare his family in the aftermath.
Conducting an imperialistic war on behalf of the Nazis would suggest he wasn't entirely opposed.
Rommel? Isn't he the guy that makes those little Bavarian figurines and bobble head dolls?
ut oh a history discusion, the only ohter thing that can get my lather up....
just becaue you try to assisnate a leader doesnt mean you are not part of his political party
you know a republican once assisnated a republican american president....(garfield)
My God Trent is fast. How did he ever run down Harvin? Was Harvin wearing ankle weights to make things more fair?
Is Mallett really in a snit due to all the Pryor talk? People need to know.
Can we please cut the Nazi talk? It's starting to harsh my buzz, man.
Chief Nacho,
Hilter was a drug fiend too.
Sorry I baited that discussion... can I delete that post? I concede that Rommel was a Nazi. Let's move on.
The Adelson article should have come with a 41 cent stamp since he completely mailed it in. Did he even watch the game? Its too bad because I usually enjoy his work.
re: Brian's comments on Crable's claim about our defense.
C'mon, Brian. 35 points be damned, this defense played about as well as you can against a superior and well-oiled Florida offense. Tebow averaged less than 5 yards per attempt! Save for the TD throws, he did not do any damage through the air. We basically just failed to contain Harvin, which was to be expected. Our pass rush was fantastic, Tebow routinely ate dirt, and the bottom line is that was a solid defensive performance - 35 pts be damned
What struck me this morning was how much the game yesterday was like last year's Michigan-OSU game, only this time Michigan was in OSU's role and Florida played Michigan's.
Follow up: Tebows's YPA was 9.9 coming into yesterdays game. That's unreal, and so was our effort in cutting that number in half(more than that, actually) yesterday.
Good luck to the Buckeyes...cough. I can't wait to hear about their second national championship this decade. I mean, they're so graceful about such things.
True, and stopping Harvin wouldn't have been in the cards for any team on the planet yesterday. The guy is not of this earth.
Remember, Trent did beat Ted Ginn Jr in the 100 yard dash in high school and Ginn would later become the HS 100 national champion. so yes, he does have speed...track speed. And he should get faster with a real S & C coach.
I've read 3 articles today that claim that we're losing 3 starters in the defensive secondary - all I can think of are Adams and Englemon - no? Is the MSM confusing Trent's actual year in school with his eligibility?
I'm amazed that the Michigan game isn't getting more play than it is. Consider the whole End of an Era thing, the Old beats New, & the 10.5 point spread.
I'm in NY city, so maybe it is getting more play in Michigan, but I am a little bummed about the lack of kudos. I think we were the 2nd biggest post-new years underdogs behind Illinois and we are getting no love.
Trent has one more year, correct? I'm suddenly optomistic that our secondary will be good next year if he's back. Warren's ready to make The Leap, Trent's a solid #1 corner, and if Stevie Brown plays more like the Florida Stevie Browns as opposed to the App State one...we'll be pretty solid back there.
yes, 35 pts looks bad, but how many possessions did they have? that was a long game w/ alot of plays and possessions. it was a very good defensive performance.
So the question is...Watching the game and the personnel (granted much of that will change after this year) and the power, was RR cackling with glee inside?
What do you folks think?
What's the deal with Mike Hart's laughing and smiling on the sidelines are the first fumble? Was it:
a) "Ha Ha, what are the odds that my 2nd and 3rd fumble ever come on my last game ever?"
b) Carr telling the players to go out there and just relax and have fun
c) Nervous defense mechanism, a la "holy crap, I hope that doesn't cost us the game."
It WAS a long game. A full 60 minutes.
Post game with Brandy was very cool and emotional would love to hear it again
Those of you that enjoyed "Animal House" will like this:
http://
mine.icanhascheezburger.c...52109168750.jpg
This means that I have to put together a season highlight reel now. No rest for the wicked, I suppose.
The secondary should be adequate. Warren/Trent at corner is probably one of the better combos out there. Stevie Brown shouldn't suck. Booboo as a nickel should theoretically be a positive. Brendan Harrison played awfull well this year, and would fit in somewhere. The only ?? mark is who plays the 2nd safety spot. Would it be Harrison, if we decide to play Booboo at nickel?
What RRod saw was an inspired team led by its seniors to win one for a beloved coach. It bares little resemblance to the team he will lead in 2008.
Post game with Brandy was very cool and emotional would love to hear it again
DcH | 01.02.08 - 2:39 pm | #
ditto. Was this on TV or radio?
BTN was the only good post-game I could find...
Anybody see this yet?
http://collegefootball.rivals.co....asp?
CID=756856
agree w/ Ben....but still, the OL (and the rest of the team) picked up a new scheme in 5 weeks and executed it very well against a solid, talented (if young) defense. it bodes well for next year. they now have 8 months to learn the new ofense.
This is (1) badass, and (2) the type of thing that I desperately hope survives the change in coaching staff...
http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...GMNOEwD8TTFMK81
"Defensive meeting.
"Eyes up!" English shouts to Michigan's defensive players.
After giving brief instructions, the defensive staff leaves the room as the lights are turned down.
Captain Shawn Crable points to the door, signaling for a visitor to leave, too, so that the defensive players can be alone for a ritual they've done for more than a decade under the well-read Carr.
"I've never been in there, but I know they recite one of Rudyard Kipling's poems," English says while waiting for an elevator.
"Do you still know it?" English asks graduate assistant coach Glen Steele, who helped Michigan win the 1997 national championship as a defensive end.
"The strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the pack," Steele says, ending the passage without hesitating in an elevator."
To me, the best thing about Arrington's catch was that he didn't try to adjust the ball in his hand after gaining control. Watch it again -- he gains control of the ball in a strange way, holding the ball around the middle of the ball rather than on the "nose" of the ball. Had he tried to adjust his hold on the ball (which is a natural reaction, even if he had full control of it) the play would likely have been reviewed and overturned.
katie, all i read was the headline, but that's all i need....
1) since when is beating Ill grounds to argue for a MNC?
2) this is kind of why i don't like the playoff stuff.....if you lose to Stanford at home you shouldn't be allowed to play for the MNC.
USC thinks that they should be considered for a shared NC! They lost to Stanford! The media is playing it up big how they creamed Illinois yet Michigan is getting no love for what was a rout. Creeps.
Someone call RR and tell him to re-hire my boy Scot Loeffler!
He can work on the mechanics of throwing with the QB and someone else can focus on the running aspect.
Please keep Scot Loeffler
Scot Loeffler
Scot Loeffler
Just watched the entire game again (love that DVR). This 2008 is starting out just fabulous!
But, I grew a goatee (sp?) for the game and now won't be able to shave it off for a few years (won't come off till we lose).
I so agree Dan, when I read that....I just about had steam pouring out my ears. They were expected to pound Illinois, we on the other hand were, according to 91% of America suppose to lose big to Florida. We dominate them for the entire game, and it is barely discussed in the media. Screw them all. And USC can suck it!
They not only lost to Stanford, but did it at the Colisieum to Stanford's back-up QB. Giving them even a share of the NC would destroy any shred of credibility the BCS has left. Don't look now but it's also yahoo.com's top story. Geez...
btw, we can all look forward to Oklahoma making the same claim when they trounce head coach-less WVU.
Trounce may be too light of a word.
The idea of Mallett tranferring is ludicrous. Is there someone out there who actually thinks it possible that a big time ego/skill QB wholding a starting job as a true sophomore at one of the top 5 programs in the country with a new coach that builds everything around his QB and has a history of record-breaking passing proficiency would leave to sit out a year at another program where he would not be guaranteed even a starting job? For what?
The chance of a Mallett transfer is the same chance I have to steal Tom Brady's girlfriend.
Does anyone else care that Scot Loeffler is getting fired? I think the guy could be our next H/C after RR retires in 15 years
Someone call RR and tell him to re-hire my boy Scot Loeffler!
He can work on the mechanics of throwing with the QB and someone else can focus on the running aspect.
Please keep Scot Loeffler
Scot Loeffler
I don't like it when people repeat, word-for-word, their same post.
formerly-trounce definitely doesn't do it justice...it's got potential to be one of the ugliest bowl games in recent memory.
@MDan,
Are we talking steal her love, or kidnapping. Kidnapping isn't too hard (you only have to succeed for a few seconds).
I'd put his odds somewhere in between the two though.
Loeffler will not be unemployed long. If I were him I'd take a year off and chase women.
I watched most of the bowl games (again via DVR and forward jump).
What I noticed is that the spread offense QBs were pretty lousy passers. And, the missed passes more than made up for any QB runs.
Mallet in the spread could be "Brady"-esque.
BTW, the shots of Mallet on the sidelines during the game showed him fired up and definitely excited. Does not sound like someone about to transfer to me.
The chance of a Mallett transfer is the same chance I have to steal Tom Brady's girlfriend.
don't sell yourself short, MDan. remember: whether you think you can or you think you can't, you're right.
Why does anyone care what ESPN says about this game?
p.s. It was the CapOne Bowl. It's been lauded as the most exciting game of the day just about everywhere. But still, it wasn't a BCS game and it was an unranked UM playing Florida in an exhibition game. Outside of fans of the school, it really is pretty irrelevant.
If Mallett is all about winning, he will stay, and RRod will build an "Alex Smith / Utah Utes" offense for him.
However, Mallett seems more intrigued by making the NFL than being a winner. I think his dad has been in conversion with Bobby Petrino this whole time, and look for him to leave before the start of winter semester so he can avoid the snow.
Agree w/ Enjoy Life!. Mallett seemed to be emotionally invested in the outcome of the game - that's not the behavior of someone with his foot out the door.
Wisdom and Shawn Crable don't often (ever?) go together
To put it lightly, Crable didn't do UM any favors in that postgame speech of his.
@Ben
Before the start of winter semester?
So...he's transferring tonight?
@ katie
Turn on espn radio they were ripping Florida today saying how they were classless and all that. They were saying good things about michigan..they were ranting on it much of my 2 hour drive back from orlando
Mallett's dad said he would make his decision after spring practice. That makes sense, since (1) it allows Mallett to see how RR would use him in the offense and (2) even if Mallett transferred today he'd still have to sit out another year. Why not wait and see how things pan out.
Yo _ Mallett fumbles ..
Didn't see you there.
I can attest to some really pissed off and non hospitable UF fans, though.
dex- disagree RE relevance. IMO, games like the one yesterday help to dismantle the constant argument from the media that the SEC is faster and more gifted at the skill positions than the Big 10. After the topsy-turvy year Michigan had, the double digit spread on the game, and the Big 10 representative facing the offensive scheme that embarrassed them in the first 2 games of the year, it forces many to rethink the "SEC is dominant" argument...
I don't like it when people repeat, word-for-word, their same post.
Also!
See, I said "also", and that makes it funny, because I didn't quite say the exact same thing, and that wasn't the point of the original post anyway, and ...
[shoots self in the head]
@Mallett Fumbles Snaps
Thanks! I will and good to hear that the media is giving us a little love!
I take it you got tickets scalz ? yeah there were many pissed off gators in my section..it was a thing of beauty
@ Mallett Fumbles....
A little detail about the "classless" comment, please. I don't doubt that they were classless, but was it the team or the fans? Any quotes?
Also, if Mallett waits until after spring practice, it will be too late to find a replacement. I say he knows as soon as national signing day is over... If Pryor is here, he is gone.
Projected 08 Offense starters:
QB Ryan Mallett
RB Kevin Grady
WR Greg Matthews
SB Brandon Minor
FB/TE Mark Moundros
WR Carson Butler
LT Steve Schilling
LG Tim McAvoy
C Justin Boren
RG Alex Mitchell
RT Mark Ortmann
Massey should be the starting TE. He lost his job to injury early in the season and is supposed to come back.
The day Carson Butler plays WR over the current crop of WR is the day that I bench 250 lbs. 35 times.
@ Nacho
Basically it was the players. The mornign host (i fotget his name) he was talking about the gators stomping the M logo and being chippy with some pushing. he said it was classless and they thought that just because they were the sec and the gators they would win. I was at the game...the gator fans were not happy but they were mostly nice..
@Ben from SF
Grady? Of all the returning offensive players, Grady seems like the worst fit to me. Unless McGuffie burns the place down, I think we'll see Brown or Miner in there before Grady.
@Muffman
I don't disagree with your assessment. But nationally, to the average fan, I don't think too much attention is paid to games that aren't the BCS. From that standpoint, I can understand why national sports outlets aren't tripping over themselves to include more coverage of the CapOne Bowl at the expense of the higher profile, bigger money BCS games.
Whether that's right or wrong, I can't say.
Yeah, I don't see Butler at WR. He's too big and plodding to run crisp routes. He needs to spend the next 8 months learning to block and he'll be a fine TE.
I think if AA and MM both go we'll see Mathews as the #1 WR and Hemingway as #2. Stonum might be the slot guy.
Re: Crable's comments on the defense. Yes, 35 points, but 7 of those came on the heels of a fake punt after they body-slammed Tebow. I don't necessarily fault a defense too much after that. More importantly, the D came up big on the last two Fla. possessions. That was probably what Crable was talking about.
Re: Tebow vs. Henne. Check out the 3rd down conversions (UM 10-15 & UF 2-11). Henne was freaking awesome yesterday.
Carson Butler played his best game of the season yesterday. There was even a point during the game when the announcers said "Great block there by Carson Butler" words I never thought I would hear.
Is Carson Butler a senior?
Would it be safe to assume the coaches didn't 'lay down' b/c they were essentially applying for jobs and interviewing all at the same time yesterday?
Even though friends should keep each other 'sharp', maybe the security of being Lloyd's friend didn't really compel the coaching staff to be 'creative' until their career depended upon it.
FWIW.
Love the site and the comments. It is a daily addiction. Clean.
At WVU, RRod prefers to have the slotback be a RB/WR hybrid (think Noel Devine). I can see McGuffie being a natural in that role, but I am reluctant to pencil in a true freshman without seeing him play first.
RRod also preferred a tall jumpball guy at one of the WR, that's why I put Butler there. I think Martell Webb may be a good fit there as well.
Butler is a soph., right? Junior at most. And yes, he played very well yesterday. Henne had oodles of time to throw and Butler showed some real speed in the open field.
We also have 4-star Tony Clemons, and 4-star Martwell Webb on the roster - both of whom are more highly touted than Hemingway, and equally as touted as Stonum. With 5 solid options at WR, we're not converting Carson Butler.
I think Hemingway will get the #2 WR behing Matthews, but I am excited to see the Tony Clemons show. We have so many good receivers, I am nervous about wasting them.
With regard to RB, I think Minor or McGuffie get the nod, with Avery Horn in the mix as well... second fastest back on the team behind McGuffie. I think Rich Rod makes some surprising roster moves.
@ dex--I can say the shoddy coverage of the game is wrong, wrong, wrong, and not just b/c I'm a Mich grad and huge fan (although I am admittedly extremely biased and po'd about it). Chad Henne's performance yesterday was tremendous, a career day. Plus what Michigan did to the Heisman trophy winner should have gotten much, much more coverage than it did. Arrington's catch was beyond spectacular. All this in the setting of Lloyd's last game...it's a big story, much bigger then you would think by looking at the lack of post-game coverage. Aside from Mizzou's RB, Henne's performance was the grittiest and best of the day given the odds and context of the game and year IMO. There is no excuse for not recognizing it as such.
Did anyone think the play that resulted in Butler's 65-yarder was going to be anything but the obvious screen pass we lined up for?
What a great day.
Avery Horn is, for the purposes of playing football, dead.
Projected Defensive Starters in 2008:
NT Terrance Taylor
DT Will Johnson
DE Tim Jamison
SLB Brandon Graham
MLB Obi Ezeh
WLB Brandon Logan
LCB Morgan Trent
RCB Donovan Warren
SS Charles Stewart
FS Steve Brown
WS Brandon Harrison
@Muffman
You are viewing it differently than I'm trying to get across. It was a good game, it was a good performance. But the rest of the country doesn't care. Mizzou fans are probably on their boards screaming that they didn't get enough pub for dismantling a second tier SEC team and proving they belonged in the BCS over KU.
Was it a great win and story? Sure. But I don't think it's all that interesting to fans outside the Big 10.
Man, this has been the greatest day at work. I've spent about 1 hour actually working and the rest of the time basking in the glory of this huge Michigan win. What a great day to be a Michigan Wolverine.
Also, anyone else see this:
http://michigan.scout.com/2/716309.html
What do all of you think the chance is of Brandon Smith picking us over South Carolina?
GO BLUE!
chitownblue00-
i recall hemingway as being the top receiving prospect in the country his senior year along with arrilous benn at UofI (i think top 20 overall too).....if i had to choose, he is most likely to be our next big time braylon-esque receiver...
@ Mallet Fumbles -
Scalped - 110 a piece, 3rd deck, 35 yd line on the UF side.
Worth.Every.Penny.
Sort of agree with your defense. I'm not sure about Logan, but the LB's are a toss-up, anyway.
Basically, if we go with that alignment, Brandon Graham probably becomes just as much of a "linebacker" as James Hall was back in '97 (ie, not really much of one at all).
"...it wasn't a BCS game and it was an unranked UM playing Florida in an exhibition game. Outside of fans of the school, it really is pretty irrelevant."
From the standpoint of the MNC, you're right about the irrelevancy. WRT to college football in general, totally disagree. Given the passionate opinions held by SEC fans and B10 fans about the relative merits of their conferences, I think this game mattered a lot. Before the game it may have mattered more to Michigan and B10 fans, but I'd bet that Fla and SEC fans now care much more than they did before. With the current prominence of the SEC nationally, the status of Florida as defending NC, Tebow the Heisman wonder, and of course Michigan's tradition and coaching change, I think this game mattered more to the average college fan nationally than any media attention (or lack thereof) would necessarily indicate.
Chris - Hemingway was a 3-star recruit, and, according to Scout and Rivals, was the 3rd best receiver that Michigan recruited in that class.
dex, you're probably right but it still frustrates me to no end. Although I really do think this game is a huge, huge win against the "SEC is faster and better than the Big 10 at all costs" argument and that's where the relevance SHOULD lie, particularly for a-holes like Mark May who never shut up about Tebow and the SEC.
chitown--
in the espn150, i swear he was in the top 25 or pretty damn close...let me check.
damn, comment about relevancy was mine, not the one and only "Anonymous."
Don, it was a good one. I completely agree, I'm just still too worked up from yesterday to put it into words. I'm amazed I can even sit still to type.
mmmm.... that must have tasted good
http://cmsimg.floridatoday.com/a...axH=650&
title=0
Chris...I dunno. According to Scout, the Michigan WR recruits were ranked as follows:
Clemons #10
Hemingway #26
Babb #52
Webb is the #3 TE.
Rivals had Clemons and Webb as 4-stars, and Babb and Hemingway as 3 stars.
RHammer...a thousand thanks for my new laptop desktop image.
Scot Loeffler and Mallett are headed to UCLA. We better get Pryor.
Hemingway was a good, not great WR prospect. Think Jason Avant.
And Darryl Stonum is undoubtedly our best WR prospect since Mario came aboard. In fact, he's a carbon copy of Mario from the vids I've seen. Super speed, has a great double move -and we can only assume he's got better hands, since you can't get worse than the pair Mario has.
I disagree.
Think Steve Breatson.
I dont know where he got this but Terry Foster just said McGuffie just announced he's definely coming to Michigan.
I disagree.
Think Steve Breatson.
scalz1 | Homepage | 01.02.08 - 3:47 pm | #
^^^This just lowered my opinion of him. Breaston played a great Rose Bowl but was an extremely limited player in terms of what you could use him for on offense.
scalz,
You're right. I dont see Hemingway being anywhere near as successful as Avant. But I also don't see him with any of the sort of gamebreaking ability that Breaston sporadically showcased.
Scot Loeffler and Mallett are headed to UCLA. We better get Pryor.
Anonymous | 01.02.08 - 3:43 pm | #
now what the hell?
come on, either give a source (or a name) or don't post shite like this...
Jimbo: Someone posted a link saying the same thing about McGuffie earlier. Basically, he waffled a bit after RR was hired but is sold now that Jackson is staying on.
Huss and chitownblue:
I was right. Per the ESPN150 (via scouts), Benn was the 17th best overall prospect last season while Hemingway was 19th. 3rd & 4th respectively for overall receivers. clemons and webb are not even on the list:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/r...3fseason%
3d2007
RHammer: top thing I've learned from obsessive MGoBlog use during the coaching search=never put stock in claims from anonymous posters with no identified sources.
LOL -
I meant "Think Stevie B" in terms of having bad hands.
Lowered my opinion of me or Hemmingway, Chitown ?
does anyone have the clip for the florida pregame midfield stomp?
re: Von Moltke
Just in case anyone is curious (and I know you aren't), I know for a fact that a member of the von Moltke clan works at UM.
Just doing my part to keep a dead thread alive.
With Mcguffie Michigan will have its own Harvin next year.
I Hope Farrell is right about Brandon Smith coming to Michigan....I think he will be a VERY good safety:
"New Brunswick, N.J. athlete Brandon Smith also lists Boston College on his list but the Eagles aren't truly in the mix. Smith will choose between Michigan, Rutgers and South Carolina is expected to join fellow New Jersey natives J.B. Fitzgerald and Marcus Witherspoon in Ann Arbor."
Of Hemingway - when I think of Breaston I think of:
1. Good kick returns.
2. Countless bombs clanking off his hands.
Chris...I think what this teaches us is that recruiting rankings are absurdly variable. I'm not saying I'm right, or that you are, but that there was obviously a difference in opinion on those guys among the 3 scouting services.
No offense but ESPNs rankings are horrid compared to Rivals and Scout, even with their faults on scoops etc
24 hrs later and I still tear up when listening to Carr's post game speech... damn... that is a MAN right there.
Do you think Mike Hart has little mans syndrom.His act gets a little old after a while.
chitown--
agree, it will be interesting to see how everything plays out. either way, we're set at WR..
I heard Sam McGuffie plans on making an announcement at the game on Saturday? Does anyone on this thread know what the announcment will be? I heard he is already committed to Michigan?
Thanks,
What exactly is the doubt about McGuffie?
Havent you guys seen the video where he picks and wears the M cap on the evening news.
Just search on youtube.
i place the espn rankings a distant 3rd, personally.
just b/c they are the NKOTB wrt recruiting i guess.
You will be disappointed to hear, but AA is gone, and Donovan Warren is leaving as well...VERY upset about English leaving...Good sources on this one...
Btw, hats off to coaching staff and especially the players. Great stuff yesterday.
i place the espn rankings a distant 3rd, personally.
just b/c they are the NKOTB wrt recruiting i guess.
DanK | 01.02.08 - 4:02 pm | #
Maybe so, but they're still Hanging Tough.
(I'll be here all week.)
Yes, McGuffie's coming. No real anxiety about that. But the sooner he makes it, like, OFFICIAL-official, the better.
Good sources on this one...
Jim Harbaugh Scramble | Homepage | 01.02.08 - 4:03 pm | #
Who are your sources?
@ Jim Harbaugh Scramble..Name your Sources or don't post crap like that.
http://
leech.tenyardtorrents.com...orrents.torrent
HD capture of the game.
\the gator fans were not happy but they were mostly nice..//
That's good, because whenever they had a crowd shot they'd always show some poor, meek soul in Maize & Blue surrounded by like, 30 guys in facepaint and cut-off jean shorts.
Warren said after yesterdays game he's staying...good sources on this.
Harbaugh Scramble,
you=fail
@ Jim Harbaugh Scramble,
That BS. A guy who started in his freshman year is not going to transfer. End of discussion . This goes for Mallet as well. So chill people.
Hemmingway was not a 3 star.
Revised odds of Mallett xfer: 1000:1 against.
Warren's a freshman. Of course he's staying.
@ Sideburns
Yeah there was Maize and blue sprinkled through the michigan section. i was with 3 friends and we had Gators on both sides of us and below us. There wasn't much trash talking in my section. Plenty of cutoff shorts though. oh and about 60,000 tebow jerseys. I thought Michigan had a pretty good fan showing though. It was a cool environment especially being the underdog in Florida because just about everyone wearing maize and blue said hey or go blue. everyone was pumped the whole game
I was in the middle of about 75 or so not-so-nice UF fans. They tend to get angry when losing and after downing a flask of Jack Daniels.
@ scalz
what section were you in?? I was near the UF endzone top level near the rail
New odds!
That Mallett xfers: 10000:1 against
That Warren xfers: 300000:1 against
Some people crack me up. There is no chance either guy xfers. Sheesh.
MDan,
http://michigan.rivals.com/commi.../
commitlist.asp
Go to 2007. There's Junior Hemingway with 3 stars next to his name. Scout gave him 4. But ranked him behind Clemons. FWIW.
OH haha I did have an old man (UF) fan yell at me because I was cursing and he had 2 kids with him. i said you know you should have gotten tickets on the UF side because IM SURE THERES NO BAD LANGUAGE OVER THERE.. this was when we were up about 14 points if i recall correctly
I'm surprised, JHS has been posting here forever and isn't a "rumor troll". I suspect hijacked handle, or temporary insanity.
Here you go.
http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/
...h_transfer.html
I think this has been mentioned before, but I thought it was worth re-posting. Here's an excerpt from the poem the Michigan defense recites the day of every game -- and a tradition I hope RR keeps:
Now this is the Law of the Jungle
- as old and as true as the sky;
And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper,
but the Wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk
the Law runneth forward and back—
For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf,
and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
I was on the UF side, 3rd deck, 35 yd line.
Really good seats, actually.
Why is there nothing about Carr winning Bobby Dodd Coach of The Year?
Chi -
I know. Thinking about the defense in a circle, heads down, repeating that gives me the chills.
I'm glad I learned about it.
Yeah I thought my seats would suck but it was actually a pretty good view . got to see a couple tds my way
When Warren announces he's leaving, remember you heard it here first...
Chi -
I know. Thinking about the defense in a circle, heads down, repeating that gives me the chills.
I'm glad I learned about it.
scalz1 | Homepage | 01.02.08 - 4:20 pm | #
I like the fact that it's a players-only thing. It's something that binds them together and reinforces the notion of "The team, the team, the team."
@ Jim Harbaugh Scramble
LIAR
.
I just don't see Mallett transferring.
Since Crable called out Herbie, I hope some Buckeye player gets the chance to do the same because I'm certain he will pick LSU.
But, I admit, I too thought your D sucked prior to yesterday. I could understand the offensive problems given Henne & Hart injuries, but you guys gave up points right and left.
Anyway the SEC might be ahead on the overall bowl scoreboard but they had a bad day yesterday. Good.
Was thinking of Scout on Hemmingway.
New odds!
Chance that Warren xfers 90000000:1 against.
JHS: You'd engender more goodwill and earn a little credibility if you offered up where you heard this or when we can expect to hear it from Warren himself.
new post
Thank you, Anonymous, for providing your source...
...which turns out to be another person speculating based (apparently only) on the Loeffler connection, which is fine, as far as speculation and rumormongoring goes...
I'd rather not - just file this little nugget away and remember where you heard it
hey does anyone know what star recruit Brady and Henson were coming into michigan?
Also, does anyone have the clip of the Florida pregame disrespect towards us?
Thanks
Jim Harbough Scramble's "Homepage" doesn't even exsist. Someone stole his handle
brady 4*s, henson 5*s.
Brady = 4* are you sure??
If I remember correctly, he was a backup in HS (on a losing team ) and the only reason he got an offer from UM was his dad made a nice intro video for him (and we saw some potential).
I dont see an other 4* recruits out there needing to send out videos to get scholarship offers.
i'm alittle fuzzy on brady, but i thought he went to the same HS Gutierrez did in Cal. he may not have started 3-4 years, but he was a starter for 1-2 i think?
D war is on track to go to the NFL in two years. He has a starting slot locked down, barring injury. He would have to be galactically stupid to transfer.
Mallet/Threet are in a tricky spot. If Pryor commits, they will have to beat out the #1 QB that fits RR system perfectly. They would lose one year if they fail to beat him out. Big risk. The transfer option would be smart choice for both.
If Pryor doesn't commit, then Mallet stays and start for three years, most likely, with threet in the wings.
The big reason for success yesterday on offense was the quick release of Henne. He rarely held the ball longer then 3 secs making it impossible (unless up the middle) to get pressure. Plus, the passing came at all downs and distants. They could not load up to stop a predictable play. As long as Henne was able to make a correct read at the line and the receiver get seperation, it just came down to pitch and catch.
Tebow was not as successful because trent/dwar/adams/etc did a good job of tight coverage and blitzing then having a chance.
Brady went to Serra High in San Mateo, Gutz went to Concord DeLaSalle.
Congrats from a Buckeye fan. I probably gave you all way too much love on my blog today but in the end Carr, Henne, Hart, and Long deserve kudos. Wish us luck as we take on those bastard Tigers in 5 days!
Higher quality/smaller file size than the torrent linked to in Brian's post:
http://leech.tenyardtorrents.com...ails.php?
id=847
love the youtube highlights!
mallet to go to ucla with the qb coach? so says the new york times blog
http://www.insidesocal.com/ucla/
...h_transfer.html
Anyone know where I can find a nice photo of Tebow with that clump of sod stuck in his helmet?
I don't get how there are UM fans who are rooting for OSU in the BCS championship. I get the whole "let's make the Big Ten look good" and "SEC is evil" arguments, but:
1. Les Miles is a guy who bleeds maize and blue and loves Michigan. He is like the second coming of Bo Schembechler. Yeah he couldn't take the job here, because he had an MNC to play for. But Les Miles is family, and we should always root for family.
2. It is clearly not in our self-interest from a recruiting standpoint to be competing against an OSU franchise which has won two MNCs this decade.
Freaking ABC did a recap of Michigan's season during an early part of the game, and after noting another loss to OSU they put up a graphic of Carr looking downcast and noted that he "Resigned." The announcer all but bit back the words "IN DISGRACE." Nice going, ABC.
It's too bad there aren't more coaches like Lloyd Carr out there. The guy has integrity and is a class act.
As for all the shit you people talk about Urban Meyer, if you knew how much of a disciplinarian he is and how much he helps his players get on track academically, and removed your Michigan bias from getting bumped out of last years NC game, you'll find the two really aren't that different.
"Anyone know where I can find a nice photo of Tebow with that clump of sod stuck in his helmet?
Craig | 01.03.08 - 1:21 am | # "
As linked before:
http://cmsimg.floridatoday.com/a...axH=650&
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