1st
marty
WHat about Perry?
And any work about the guys who have been added recently? Do we have a legit shot Odoms? Barnum? Brown?
MLAWyer - toledo man has been posting a bunch of scout stuff in the comments to the previous post. Do a control-f for his name and you will have scout's answer to your questions.
Yes, Pryor is a good QB. But, as much as I hate Drew Sharp, I think his second article about Pryor to Michigan was more correct than his first. We should be able to win without him. I still want him, but it won't be the end of the world.
this is the "comment" section, yes?
question: who gives a fuck if you're "first" if all you do is proclaim to be first, without commenting on anything? seems a little silly to me (and by silly, i mean, fucking stupid)...
FIRST!!
Clearly, your life is not so devoid of being first in anything to make posting "first!" the excitement it is to the Anonymous losers. Etierht hat, or they enjoy stirring the shit and getting folks riled. Either way, be happy your life is better than that.
Hmmm, I think I need new fingers. These ones don't type so well anymore.
Actually, what would be better than getting Pryor is having him go to OSU and beating him soundly for four years anyway. This kid sounds like a chump. Super-natural-athlete-chump, but chump nonetheless. Unless he does a lot of growing up, he may not be the kind of guy we want as the face of our football program.
Go Blue!
That "We'll see" is downright Beaverian in its' ambiguity. Maybe not intended that way...
Pryor's an idiot. he's super talented, sure. but, he's stupid enough to fall for the draconian plans of cheatervest. osu cheats... all the time. those assholes must be punished.
Orson and Brian are both sick... Trev Alberts has poisoned them both.
Phil Taylor at cnnsi talks about how Rodriquez taking the Michigan job was unfair to Mallett and the NCAA should allow the freedom not to sit out a year.
This ignores, of course, the fact Ryan could have stayed through spring ball and there were transfer rumors a year ago.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com...lett/
index.html
That evil RRod. Not only is his ex gf acting like a jilted lover, but he salted Mallett's game.
14th!!!!!
I wonder if Pryor's worried about the depth and ability of our O-line for next year?
I wonder if Pryor's worried about the depth and ability of our O-line for next year?
Maybe, but he's only going to be a change of pace at OSU next year. It doesn't really matter how much better or worse their OL is because Boeckman and Henton are going to get the majority of snaps.
+1 to bunny lebowski for beating me to the punch and with a better joke
I have been looking at the Pryor comments and want to bring up one theory I have been working on.
Most of us and the media assume that our offensive system is preferable to OSU's for Pryor. Both TP and Charlie have stated that TP's development is one of their chief concerns. While I believe TP would be more comfortable playing in RR's system right away, I think that it is possible that his long term development would be aided by being forced to leave his comfort zone. While OSU's system is not as tailored to his current skills, they would probably force him to develop the skills he needs to play QB in the NFL.
Just look at Pat White, he has become a great college player but not a pro prospect at QB. If you remember, TP seemed less than enthused after his visit from seeing so many clips of Pat White. I don't think TP wants to be like Pat White. He would much rather be compared to Troy Smith who developed into a good thrower and won the heisman.
Sorry if this sounds negative, I still hopes he comes to UM.
As I have said before, if TP (or any athlete) considers his stay at Michigan to be nothing more than an extended NFL tryout, he's welcome to go elsewhere.
If your analysis is correct, MLAWyer, then OSU is indeed where he belongs. I want players for whom the maize and blue means something, not mercenaries.
Not negative MLAWyer. I think people are becoming less and less excited about TP. I, for one, am. His character has become all too apparent in this whole process and I have to say, I don't really like what I see.
Idiots post "first" for the same reason that they kick garbage cans over: because they get off on antagonizing people.
Batch and RR had a conversation about the amount of passing that would be in RR's offense with TP. RR said he would pass more. Either he's lying or TP will get an equal opportunity to develop his passing skills at both schools. Justin Zwick, Todd Boeckmann, Craig Krenzel and Robbie Schoenhoft all think Tressel is great at developing NFL QBs.
MLAWyer, you are assuming that TS will be successful in the NFL. Seeing that he won the Heisman and was a late rounder, it seems unlikely. You are also assuming that Pat White will even lower rated than TS, after PW's senior season.
What structurally about OSU's system is more NFL like? If TP really cared about an NFL preparation, he would have seriously looked at M (w/ Loeffler, before RR), USC, or any number of the programs that have a tendency to produce NFL QBs.
Trev Alberts owns a lot more Polonium 210 than you'd think.
Does anyone know how much Troy Smith makes a year with the Ravens?
Two comments re: Mallett -
1. I agree w/ SI that players in his situation should not be punished.
2. On WTKA last week Carty said that several of Mallett's teammates were happy to see him go. Carty attributed this to his ego, which was out of control due to the madness of recruiting these days, and said it is likely to be the case with TP. I know he's just a kid but what kind of monster would enjoy/feed off this kind of attention?
My son plays H.S football here in A2. I stress education to him, he is a 3.7gpa kid.
I stress that he is playing a sport where there is a good chance that he WILL get hurt!. I ask him...what if you get hurt and can no longer play FB? You better have a good backup plan...like being able to get into med school.
I dont think that alot of parents stress this to their kids and what happens more often than not with these athletes is that the graduate with a degree not worth squat!
My question is: has any of these kid said what field of study they want to go into?
Pat White isn't an NFL QB because he's 6 feet tall and can't throw into a light breeze let alone a stiff wind. A QB with Pat White's numbers and skill set but with better measurables would absolutely be an NFL QB prospect.
On talent and ability alone, TP is probably the QB RR has been dreaming of since his days at G State. But there's a lot of smoke there which make us (the trailing school) wary. However, I can't help but think that if TP had been a UM lean all these weeks, we would have found a way to rationalize away most of those alleged transgressions.
I can't wait for TP to go to OSU, so Drew Sharp can tell us all how it's the death of the UM football program.
i know fitz perosonally, very very low chance he will go elsewhere
Good comments all, It is certainly possible (and probably likely) that TP does not see it this way and does like Michigan's offensive system more. I just wanted to bring up something we might be missing.
It is also possible that RR could promise to pass more. I would counter that argument by saying that simply adding more passes into the RR spread is not the same as developing QB skills in a pro system. I am interested to see how this plays out.
Anyone hear anything about whether Beilein would want Daniels? I seem to remember him mentioning a desire to play basketball.
My bad...
tOSU
"A lot of things are telling me Ohio State," Hall said. "That's my gut feeling. In San Antonio, I was there and everyone he chose to hang out with were the kids from Ohio State and their parents."
booooooo
I propose that instead of calling that shitty university as tOSU, we call it fOSU henceforth. Yes, fucking osu.
Buncha good comments here re: Pryor. I too have wondered whether our depleted O line might discourage him.(I see we just lost one while I was typing to FSU, but he's nuts to head there.)
I'm not completely convinced that Pryor's an asshole, btw, but a fairly bright kid with it going to his head. My hunch is the yoyos love him if he comes our way.
Now what's all this about RR going to PA while Daniels is here? THAT frightens me.
Finally, I love the way Daniels throws on the run. It'll be harder to do in the B10, but hot damn. He's also a very purposeful side-to-side runner with very little wasted motion. . . just a single well-timed juke when he needs it (some of those defenders on YouTube are still hunting for their straps!)
No it's not your bad, Garfunkel. The only more arrogant than a stereotypical UM fan, is feeling that your university needs to have a "thee" in front of it.
Yeah, but I find the "the" to be surprisingly accurate. If you've ever been to Columbus, you know that those people have NOTHING else. So, in their world, it is "the" one and "the" only. Well, that and cows. Tasty, tasty cows.
Mallet should have to sit out two years for busting that sprinkler head on his first day. Malicious destruction of property should not be tolerated. I, for one will not stand for this.
So this is completely useless, but a way to waste time: Predict which of the following recruits come to Michigan!
Perry
Pryor
Daniels
Feagin
Robinson
Floyd
Lawrence
Odoms
Pead
Shaw
Barnum
Mitchell
McCalebb
Brown
Also, heard DeVoe Torrence is back on the board...any chance? I heard he got the boot from OSU's class due to academics though...it would look bad if we took him.
Assuming the recruits don't got to the hockey game (no bball game this weekend), RR would not be with them on Saturday night regardless. They'll be out with their hosts. I don't think it's a big deal, but who knows what the perception will be amongst the recruits. All I can tell you is they'll get the same amount of "face time" with RR either way.
Marcus Witherspoon and JB Fitzgerald have names that make them sound like great linebackers. It's imperative we get them both.
Deez kidz dat give verbuls to skoolz shud keep they word. Word!
fOSU sucks
the assclown pryor's going to fOSU.
"he's stupid enough to fall for the draconian plans of cheatervest."
if you mean the easiest path to the national championship game in the country, i mean, surely even through our maize-and-blue glasses we can see the allure of that. especially if he doesn't mind chilling behind boeckman for a year instead of being thrust into the spotlight a la claussen/mallett. with the recent history, and for a dude with no emotional ties to the rivalry, you sort of have to expect he'll favor ohio, don't you? plus, class is probably easier, and like, you get a 'vette, dude.
I think there's something to be said here for S&C and "doing more with less" that RR seems to be so successful at.
That being said, although I'd love to have him, I cannot, nay, WILL not believe that the future of our program depends on us getting TP. Snag some other 4-star kid and get to work.
No Homo J. Finch!!!
Umm...you and Orson sick on the same day...I'm just sayin.
" Trev Alberts owns a lot more Polonium 210 than you'd think."
No need for Po when Am is found in every household:
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/in...p/archives/
4246
"Brian and Orson,
Sittin' in a tree,
..."
nothing new... still.
I don't think Phil Taylor was wrong at all. Why should a kid who came to a school have to be married to that school, or be punished if his coach leaves. And spare me the 'he came to school, not just for a coach.' Obviously, who the coach is plays a major factor in a kid's decision.
I see nothing wrong with Taylor's sentiment, even if I do take exception to some of his characterizations of DickRod.
If TP goes to osu, Xavier Lee immediately comes to mind. Or Ryan Perriloux. Or Joe Cox. Or Keith Nichol.
MLAWyer | 01.30.08 - 1:56 pm........ i'd agree. but if that's the case, why not consider M while RR was here? sure mallett was here, but he could be a sure #2 & compete, just like OSU. plus, if he really cares about development for the nfl, then he could RS and get more separation between him and anyone else.
Recruiting is super creepy.
not RR....LC. why not consider M seriously when LC was here.
cfaller and chi, go ahead and jump down MLAWyer's throat. Lookout MLAWyer, the hounds of perception are a comin'.
Daniel J,
I agree with you 100%. Having players with great names (Witherspoon, Fitzgerald) is imperative to the success of our program. Just ask Woodson, Edwards, and ELVIS.
In response to the comment about Devoe Torrence being back on the board. ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!
His offer was rescinded by OSU because of academics and a pending legal matter. RUMORED to be sexual contact between him and several others with an underage girl (ages I'm hearing range from 12-17).
i mean Daniel L
Who among us hasn't at least considered diddling a 12 year old? Let he without sin cast the first stone.
There's about 8 billion reasons a kid should have to sit out a year for transferring even when his coach leaves. This is a complete effing non-issue.
As big a part as Lloyd was or was not of Mallet's decision, Mallet would be the first person in the history of ever to not have had some clue Lloyd may retire. Obviously he didn't know Rich was going to be the coach, but Rich didn't exactly force Mallet out either, calls to a high school player - whom Rich was already recruiting at WVU and who two months later still has given no indication he'll actually attend UM - aside.
We don't need TP. I hope RR is in Star Jacksons ear. Minnesota really? Really?
[casting the first stone.]
I think you mean Alabama
Oh come on, I have two words for you Dan: Hannah Montana.
MDan - I had no intention of you taking our disagreement personally. We can disagree and not think each other is an asshole.
Do high school head coaches do anything anymore. Since when do high schools have qb coaches?
Thats why I LOVE these high school QB's. I keep getting older, they stay the same age.
yak
Anyone feel free to comment, but:
1. If Pryor goes to O$U:
- Lots of questions on being paid/bribed
- We bitch and moan
- Hopefully get over it
- Land some excellent recruits who are dying to play for us
2. If Pryor goes to Michigan:
- O$U bitches and moans
- Says RR cheated
- WVU declares its going the State of Ohio, will be now known as East Ohio.
3. If Pryor goes to Oregon/LSU:
- Never see the kid again
- Les Miles laughs all the same to another NC
4. If Pryor chooses Basketball:
- Goes to O$U, transfers to UM after a year to be with Beilein.
5. Other:
- Starts his own sports blog entitled "mNoBlog" or "1 Warrior"
- Batch, Pryor & Associates Sports Agency
- WVU declares its joining the State of Ohio, will be now known as East Ohio.
*** correction
dex is officially the most distateful entity on mgoblog.
Wow, I really dislike you.
Recruiting's so totally not creepy.
[flexing biceps in mirror]
Yeah. My bad. Who is the fellow that signed with Minny? Get that chap. That bloke can play.
chi, yes we can. The asshole comment was directed at cfaller, who went to the "personal" card first in disagreeing that RR was stereotyped as not a throwing QB's friend.
Can I think both of you are assholes even though I don't really disagree with either of you?
I think one of them is a gigantic asshole but I'll keep it a guessing game.
You won't be the first.
Can I think both of you are assholes even though I don't really disagree with either of you?
You can join the long and illustrious list.
@Cone
I think his name is Marquis Gray? Maybe? Don't really remember.
I hope everyone realized that the level of sour grapes w.r.t. TP in here is completely transparent, embarassing, counter-productive, and premature.
Seriously - just stop.
I think you're an asshole to.
anyone see that freep article of Larry Foote bashing sparty??! pretty funny.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...80129096/&
imw=Y
" dex is officially the most distateful entity on mgoblog."
could be. I always thought of Chunks in a John Waters sort of vein--tastefully disgusting.
Nah, scratch that. Waters' early movies are just plain gross ("Female Trouble", etc.)
If I was Pryor, I'd make my decision based on internet posting boards.
And I'd go to Oregon- to play basketball - to make sure no 40 year old fans write fan fiction pieces about my state of mind and personal life.
Is Larry Foote Mike Hart's big brother?
" I think you're an asshole to."
ever hear of a homonym?
If TP elects to go to fOSU, I hope that he gets just enough PT to commit some colossal freshman mistake and cost them a game that they should have won. Then Laurinaitis and the rest of the returning Buckeyes can be this year's Hart, Henne and Long. It would serve them right, if their recruiting practices are as nefarious and underhanded as they appear to be.
That is one thing that many people seem to overlook. If TP comes to Michigan, he will be expected to make some mistakes while learning. If he goes to fOSU he will either not play right away, or he may risk ruining the NC hopes of all of those returning upperclassmen. If he doesn't play, then he ends up taking over a team full of young guys after the upperclassmen leave, which is exactly why fOSU fans say that he shouldn't go to Michigan. Or am I missing something (other than a Corvette)?
Also, I agree that if TP is not an upstanding guy, then I won't miss him, despite his tremendous upside. That being said, I hope that he comes to Michigan and turns out to be a great Michigan Man.
What did you call me?
"I propose that instead of calling that shitty university as tOSU, we call it fOSU henceforth. Yes, fucking osu."
I've been calling it that for years. Why the fuck would anybody call it anything else?
Dark Helmet: Who is he?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole sir.
Dark Helmet: I know that! What's his name?
Colonel Sandurz: That is his name sir. Asshole, Major Asshole!
Dark Helmet: And his cousin?
Colonel Sandurz: He's an asshole too sir. Gunner's mate First Class Philip Asshole!
Dark Helmet: How many asholes do we have on this ship, anyway?
[Entire bridge crew stands up and raises a hand]
Entire Bridge Crew: Yo!
Dark Helmet: I knew it. I'm surrounded by assholes!
[Dark Helmet pulls his face shield down]
Dark Helmet: Keep firing, assholes!
Now we do movie quotes. How original.
Devil's advocate's post just gave me whiplash.
" dex is officially the most distateful entity on mgoblog."
dang, i just got pushed off the pedestal. do i get to keep my tiara?
I have friends from MSU, ND, and OSU, but those are my only reference points when it comes to D1 fans of other programs. My question:
Do fans of other teams, say Nebraska or Texas, speak of Nebraska Men or Texas Men? Is this a strictly Michigan thing?
"dang, i just got pushed off the pedestal. do i get to keep my tiara?"
Admit to your crush on Hannah Montana and you can rejoin me. I'll share the prize.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present the William Shakespeare of blog comments, brian cook:
I think you're an asshole to.
Is Larry Foote Mike Hart's big brother?
What did you call me?
Now we do movie quotes. How original.
Thank you for your contributions.
Dex - probably not in the same terms (ie "______ Man") but I think most places with big tradition have similar concerns (in regards to giving preference to alums, past employees, etc).
1)who is Hannah Montana? is she on 'you can't do that on television?'
2) dex, yes. and it drives everyone else nuts.
Me thinks all you folks are the bee's knees. I will go so far as to say the Cat's Pajamas.Now in the immortal words of one Drew Sharp.....
...
...
"...." He's never spoken any immortal words.
re: DeVoe Torrence
It appears even OSU isnt willing to venture into Eric Knott territory. Michigan State, I salute you.
frickin' sick. i can't believe dex actually wrote that. sick. may start referring to him as tDex
Hannah Montana is a fox. That's all you need to know.
@me (awkward..)
What made you sick?
What are you trying to say?
1)who is Hannah Montana? is she on 'you can't do that on television?
No, that's Alanis Morrisette.
12 year olds. why are you watching hannah montana?
the disney channel is always pimpin out these hot little bitties.
dex, I hear you about all this Michigan Man stuff lately. It's all a little too much and starting to sound a little bit silly. AND!... when I went to M (1987-1991) we all just called the place where the football team played "Michigan Stadium" or simply "the stadium" (because everyone knew you weren't referring to Crisler or Yost unless you actually said "Crisler" or "Yost.")
I've never liked "the Big House" nickname. Thanks for nothing, Keith Jackson. I'd prefer it if our facility wasn't a slang term for prison.
Well, since you're all assholes, I guess it's time to announce that I'm gay.
re: devoe T...
sometimes these things are counterintuitive. 2-3 years ago, osu was so close to the mendoza line wrt APR #s that they had to be REALLY selective in the guys they offer. if they offer academically questionable guys and they eventually drop osu's APR below the glass floor, that means s'ship reductions, etc. not sure about this situation specifically, tho.
I think TP to OSU has a real chance to backfire for him. I think it safe to say, he doesn't sniff the field next year (unless injury). Then he has to contend with Henton, who is no slouch from all that I hear (on campus every week). He may find himself in a Simms/Applewhite situation where even though he is the bomb, he can't get PT.
Eight-year olds, dude.
Everyone have a nice day. I need to go cut my hair and get somemore misinformation.
we're ALL gay tennblue . . . :)
@caup
Yeah, I just think it's being overused, especially in regards to TP.
@me
12 year olds...well...what can I say, I'm really good at bowling. You gonna call the fucks down at the league office and tattle on me?
the disney channel is really owned by chris hanson. what happens, disney get the pedophiles all riles up with their shameless combination of 12 year old girls, professional hair and makeup people, and push up bras. then chris hanson drops the boom.
"im chris hanson with dateline nbc. why dont you have a seat?"
its a free mason plot.
I understand that the whole Michigan Man thing can come off as a little trite. I simply intended it as shorthand for someone who demonstrates integrity, respects the tradition of the school, is actually bright enough to earn a degree if he sticks around, does not get arrested, etc.
Sadly, these things are becoming more rare in the sporting world, and I hope that Michigan will continue to uphold the tradition of holding its athletes and coaches to a higher standard. I can spell it out in the long form in the future, if it will make you more comfortable...
higher standards like when Marlin Jackson ripped that kids face with a beer bottle amirite
"What did you call me?"
An inarticulate troll. Nothing more.
the best michigan player out of control was brian griese getting tanked and throwing chairs through windows.
Has anyone seen a draft board of where michigan players are predicted to go. All I can think of is:
Arrington
Manningham
Henne
Hart
Long
Kraus
Adams
Am I missing anyone and where are they all projected?
A Bass would be a 1st rounder if healthy. when is he coming back?
Keegan, you forgot Crable.
I knew I was missing someone, thanks.
What happened to Antonio Bass anyway? Didn't he screw up his knee or something?
i saw hayden epstein hit a hobo with a six iron behind skeepers
@dex:
the term "Texas Man" was not uttered when Major Applewhite came back to the program recently.
It does seem to be largely a Wolverine thing
I heard Bass transferred because RR throws the ball too much.
Antonio was caught out of season and had to be released.
Why isn't Antonio Bass being mentioned as a potential QB next year? I heard he was good.
That is kind of my point. One of the cleanest major programs around, and we still have our problems. That is why I don't want us to lower our standards to that of the fOSU's of the world...
I have a crush on that one chick. From that one show. You know who I'm talking about?
Anyone on the draft board?
I have a crush on that one chick. From that one show. You know who I'm talking about?
yak | 01.30.08 - 3:30 pm | #
Estelle Getty?
@yak
Ashley Tisdale from High School Musical? I think she might be legal.
yak,
Rosie O'donnell?
shes got naked pics on the internets
No that's Vanessa Hudgens, the tan one.
I can hear you all Googling.
Four for four. All the above. lol!!!!!!!11!!!
i just goole imaged
dex mom nekkid with banana and finger puppets in rendering plant
no results, so you can breathe a sigh of relief.
I like the ring of "FOSU". Who's making t=shirts?
Pillowy mounds of mashed potatoes.
Or bags of sand.
There's nothing funnier than logging on here every day and reading all these sour grape, halfassed arguments against Terrell Pryor. So many assumptions have been made, so little evidence is presented to back up all these wild assertions, and it's pathetic to see how holier-than-thou we can act when we come across a recruit who *gasp* might just be interested in going elsewhere. And for the poster above who said he wanted no part of a recruit who looked at Michigan as merely an NFL launching pad....wake up, join the rest of us in 2008, and understand that that is exactly what college athletics has become. Enough with this integrity bullshit. This is a business, and it's Michigan's business to get the best players possible...without looking TOO shady in the process(read: Leave local glass warehouse owners out of it, and dont send recruits to recruit another recruit)
terrelle pryor's ears stick out. i think he was stuck in the birth canal too long.
I fully endorse our recruits recruiting any other recruit as long as our recruits aren't enrolled or signed to a NLOI.
Also, recruit.
Put all our eggs in the BJ Daniels basket. Pryor is not coming. I hope RR knows this, and i assume he does. Get Daniels and lets all move on. Pryor will be a nice tight end in OOHI.
Anyone else thing BJ Daniels' clips are more impressive than Pryor's?
MRG,
Like Bo said, "it's about the recruit, the recruit, the recruit!"
the fOSU and OOHI stuff is awfully played out, guys. It's like making a
"We need a new Carr with Les Miles!" joke.
like bo said:
hey lets fire ernie harwell.
I'm not an expert. BUT it looks like BJ Daniels has lots of work to do on technique - he NEVER sets his feet. Plus, the safeties he's playing against are seemingly all cripples.
One of us should probably tell Coach Rod that Pryor isn't coming to Michigan. He's making an in-home visit this Saturday and that money/jet fuel could be better spent going to Vegas or something. If I see him before Saturday, I'll let him know.
nelsmich,
I think you, like so many others since it's seemed like Pryor is going to OSU for shizzle, are just looking for ways to not care about Pryor anymore.
He's not the unanimous #1 on accident. Maybe BJ Daniels does have a great highlight tape...but it's obviously not up to par with Pryor's. Unless you've convinced yourself otherwise, in which case...have fun.
chitown,
That's cold, man. My nephew is a starting safety on one of those teams in BJ Daniels highlights tape. And he's a paraplegic.
this whole pryor mess is going to stir up so much shit on both sides and make him into such a huge figure that the backlash is going to be, in lloyd's words, tremendous. if he goes to osu, recruits will come here to beat pryor.
furthermore, he's going to play one good season and hop to the nfl anyway.
this is going to be fun to watch.
what chitown hates cripples?
@ MLAWyer
I think the problem with your theory about Pryor's development is that you think attending OSU would AID his maturation. There's no proof that OSU's system will help him succeed on the next level.
I don't remember the last OSU quarterback who was successful on the NFL level. They had good teams in the '90s and into this decade, and none of them have done anything (although I guess Troy Smith still has a shot of being decent).
Even Rodriguez's Tulane and Clemson QBs made better NFLers than Cooper and Tressel's Buckeye QBs.
What a brain freeze
Basing an evaluation of who is better on highlight tapes is a bit off - the tapes, by their very nature, cast the kid int he best possible light. Anyway, it's hard to make any call based on 50 or so plays from both kid's careers.
That said, BJ Daniels' tape had better music.
i got a buddy, that used to coach in pa. has watched pryor the last couple of years.... he's an osu and pitt fan... anyway, his comments about pryor, and this is a guy who coached in florida as well, were that he was a man among boys... He said as a safety the guy closed faster than anyone he had ever seen. i said something about his arm stregth, he said the guy had a cannon... so take it for what its worth... he really just might be THAT good, or my buddy is just excited to say he watched him play, both are possibilities...
Daniels needs a lot of work, he reminds me of a less athletic Vick coming out of HS (which is not meant as a complement) He uses his legs and just hucks it deep because it's impossible to cover someone for 6-8 seconds. The safeties may not be bad it just may be his ability to elude the pass rush (which will not be as apparent in college) and a cannon for deep balls. Don't think he is the second coming or better than Pryor if the two are being compared now.
With all of the recruiting publicity, the ncaa is going to be forced into investigating the pryor situation. Tressel will eventually be broght down. He escaped all of the vilations ay Youngstown State and has been lucky getting away with it at Ohio State. It's only a metter of time.
Keegan - that's valid. On his highlight film, Daniels did buy absurd amounts of time with his legs, which obviously helps his receivers run free of the safeties. SO I PROVISIONALY WITHDRAW THE COMMENT THAT BJ DANIELS PLAYED AGAINST CRIPPLES.
re: D. Torrence
I'm also pretty sure he had off-field issues of some sort that caused OSU's scholarship offer to be taken back - I'm not sure if he bowls on Saturdays or not.
re: Antonio Bass - he once nursed a motherless Bald Eagle to health and then trained it to kill Osama Bin Laden (before the knee injury, of course)
For the record, as cliche as it is at this point, I noticed a heckuva lot of Vince Young in Pryor when I actually had my rivals membership and watched his tapes. Both had/will struggle their first year or two throwing the ball, but they will more than make up for it with their freakish size/speed combination. These guys can actually run OVER dbs. I could care less if Pryor never throws for 2500 yards in a single season at UM(if he commits), but I do know his playmking ability on the ground alone, combined with a tremendous supporting cast, would result in a whole lot of Ws in our future. Be our Vince Young, TP. Be our Vince Young.
Antonio Bass dad antonio bass sr was just in jail..
USM got somebody who was being pursued by Michigan? Raise the roof, y'all. To the Top.
The QB Coach paints a bleak picture for us, but we shouldn't forfeit our '08 games just yet...
Even if an incoming-freshman QB doesn't start for us next year, I think Cone or Threet will do us proud. Coach Rodriguez seems to pride himself on adapting "the system" to the tools on-hand...and Cone & Threet aren't exactly rusty tools. By all *internet* accounts, Threet was going to give Mallet a run for his money in '08 anyway, and for Cone to impress Coach Loeffler there's gotta' be a little fire behind that smoke.
Might our offensive learning curve be less-steep if Coach Rodriguez installs more of a passer-esque "spread" around Cone/Threet, while he searches for the dual-threat QB he seemingly covets in the meantime?
chitown,
I know because we had a crazy-elusive QB on my HS team, wasn't fast but could always buy time. We had a good secondary and it was impossible to cover guys with him running around. Plus, the temptation to just run up and make a play is huge, so I bet a lot of safeties did that as well with Daniels.
Please stop throwing Cone's name around as a legitimate option at QB.
I wholly believe Threet is a solid QB and we would make due with him - if both he and Mallett played in the exact same situation we'd be giving them next year, their production would be pretty much a wash. But Cone? Stab me.
I just saw TP's senior year highlights off rivals and to be honest, they weren't that impressive. I still would love to land him but I am definitely starting to think that he is a bit overrated. Again, he would be a huge catch for our current class but he is overrated. I'd be happy with Daniels if we didn't get TP.
This will all become a moot point when Sheridan starts the opener.
(If only because 'Sheridan, bitches!' works a lot better than Cone or Threet)
i hope threet can step up to be the Sam Bradford of 08 (minus him looking slightly retarded everytime i see him on tv).
Cone is going to be a great 4-year clip-board holder/play signaler. Maybe he'll even get to wear the green and red wristbands that RR wears. I look forward to seeing Cone in a baseball cap and headset standing next to RR as he talks to (insert any QB other than Cone here) pretending like he knows what's going on.
Cone will be our #1 fake play caller on the sidelines. Hopefully we can get him so good he makes it to the league.
Stop with the TP is overrated. I realize that if he's a bust all of you "he's overrated" people can say "I called it back when he was in HS" but right now he is an absolute freak of an athlete and football player. Yeah, I'll be happy to get Daniels, and yeah, I don't want TP to be a distraction if he comes here, but don't say he's overrated off of watching his Rivals video and never having seen him live. He is the consensus no. 1 recruit. That doesn't mean he will be VY or Xavier Lee but it does mean that he is the best player right now in HS football.
I will say this: our QB situation will be a mess next year.
chitown,
I prefer to call it a Clusterfuck.
Thank you, Keegan. Thank you.
Keegan--i've long defended TP. I think he will be very good. And why can't I judge him after watching his rivals videos? Those same videos are what coaches notice. He is a bit overrated I think and that is NOT b/c he is most likely going to fOSU. He is a great runner but not necessarily a great passer. chill out. He will be very good at the next level.
hey! where's all the crap about the buckeye's cheating. you know, the paragraphs not actually saying that they are cheating, but, more like, insinuating that they are cheating in regards to Pryor.
come on, i come here with some expectations.
i don't dig change, so i'll just check back.
The "TP is overrated" crowd are the same people that bash his character as well - we know next to nothing about the kid other than the fact that he's an athletic freak who is likely a bit arrogant. Color me surprised.
07michgrad - the coaches have probably seen him play, and not evaluated him on a 2 minutes compilation of the best plays of his life.
chitown---you are so wrong. i've always had good things to say about TP and have been one of the few people to defend his character do don't assume everything. I actually think he is a very good player AND person. Chill out guys.
jesus, i didn't know all you of were so close to TP. If I say he is the best player ever and best person ever would that make you happy and not go crazy? It's a fair call, I didn't say anything negative about him.
07michgrad - I'm not talking specifically about you.
I think there are a tremendous amount of people that, to protect themselves from the disappointment of not getting him, are talking themselves to sleep every night saying one of the following:
a) he's an asshole
b) he's overrated
c) he's an overrated asshole
How utterly disappointing:
http://antiracistblog.blogspot.c...versity-
of.html
AHHHH ASSCLOWN SIGHTING ON ESPNEWS!!!!!
07, it's no big deal. But suggesting he's "overrated" - when nobody "in the know" or any sort of recruitnik agrees with you - just doesn't compute. He's as good as it gets right now. That's the bottom line.
or, as someone argued last night:
d) getting Pryor will set back future Michigan QB endeavors because getting a running QB will typecast us for the eternity of Rodriguez's tenure.
I think all of these are ways of making the speaker feel better about not getting him.
and I understand that. That is an easy out. Now, at this point I think we will lose the TP sweepstakes but I'm not basing my opinion off of that. Hell, I think BJ Daniels would be a great fit but I don't know anything about his character or from that i've seen of his videos.
07 michgrad,
Coaches use way more than Rivals videos to scout kids especially a 5* recruit. they go see him live, they get complete game film not just highlights and they watch them at combines and camps. Rivals videos are for fans to watch stuff like McGuffie flip over Shugarts. Coaches only using the recruit sites to get try to catch any rumor about their recruit and what he may or may not think/be doing, nothing else. It's not just your post it's every "I don't want TP, he's a bad-apple, he's doesn't wear deodorant often enough" posts that wear thin. No problem discussing possible flaws with his game but stop with the speculations about his ability.(this last part is directed at everyone not michgrad)
So if TP goes to Columbus, we're looking at Threet or Threet/Daniels splitting time?
anyone else notice the "gay friendly getaways" banner at the bototm of halo scan?
yeah, but he is also getting ALOT of attention b/c he has committed anywhere (and for good reason). but I guarantee you if he had committed earlier in the process he would not be discussed as heavily. Dan O'Neill, Brandon Moore, and Cissoko all committed relatively early and have seen their stock drop since. That has happened b/c alot of people didn't feel the need to talk about recruits who were already committed.
*hasn't committed
and i know they see more than those videos. thats obvious.
Wisconsin - it's based on nothing other than my opinion, but I don't see a way in hell Daniels plays next year unless Threet is injured. He mechanics are very, very, very, very raw.
Someone was on here a day or two ago who said he's spoken w/ a current U of M player who said the team had confidence in Threet. Obviously I have no idea if that's true...
threet/feagins/daniels would be the top 3....if we get daniels and feagin that is
07,
You're right, the hype is huge because he hasn't committed, but he was the #1 Jr last year, so he already had a ton of hype around him. Especially from VY's rose bowl/domination of all things CFB. Sorry to blow up, it wasn't at you, I remember a lot of your posts being pro-TP I just get tired of reading the whole thread and more and more people going "he's not coming here, he sucks" even though I know that's not how you meant it.
gsims,
you act like there's something wrong with that.
Whatever happens with TP, I just hope he shows up in a limo to make his announcement.
dammit haloscan.
just wondering if anyone else noticed it....
or if it was just specific to my computer, tracking my google searches...
Garfunkel,
I hope it's that corvette.
gsimmons -
Nope, not just you.
and if we're making comparisons...I hate, hate, i mean hate Clausen. i got respect for TP. but Clausen embodies everything that is wrong with the world (him and osama).
Pryor might delay decision, visit Oregon:
/www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/
20080130/SPORTS0201/801300478
Clausen wasn't even the best player on his HS team!!! God, I felt like the last sane person on the planet when I watched his team play and was saying Marc Tyler's better. Please, did someone else out there feel the same way, and not because you hate ND and Jimmah, but because Tyler was/is a better player.
Keegan - I can't around hatred for Notre Dame. I think they piss me off more than OSU.
Yeah but Tyler broke his leg. that, and the fact he was from the Clausen clan and was a QB were the reasons he got more hype.
Not sure if this has been mentioned - but WDFN has just said that the Freep is reporting that it is now 50/50 that Pryor will delay his decision past NSD, so he can visit Oregon.
I'd rather have Osama lobbing touchdowns on my team than Jimmy Clausen. Osama's got height and a killer beard. Plus you know he can take a beating. Clausen looks like a wayward kid who just woke up from his cardboard box.
chitownblue -
I agree with you. My boss is a ND grad. Insufferable.
rivals doesn't have AA in their top 25 WRs. that is just stupid.
The "Clause Clan" is a bunch of sissy-marry pretty boys who were marginally mediocre at UT and had zero shot at the pros along with their dad who is the definition of "that dad" in youth sports these days. That family, I loathe thee.
Clausen Clan
Sorry, I hate them so much I have trouble spelling their whole name.
I would love to have TP, and losing him to OSU would be a huge loss, but we can still win without him. Ever heard of Pat White, or even Armanti Edwards? Nobody recruited these guys, and they have done really well. A player's star ranking on Scout or Rivals doesn't always predict success.
I'm not kidding myself either. Texas recruited Vince Young along with four other 5* recruits. That worked out pretty well.
I suddenly have this feeling that everything will point to OSU, and then TP will catch everyone off guard and choose UM. Whatever. I mostly want someone at QB whom we love to cheer for, kind of like Mike Hart at RB.
Casey Clausen owned us in the Citrus Bowl, Fat Phil Fool-mer is still laughing that one up.
ive seen several articles that say oregon is out and say tp is now down to osu-um...
but who knows
Tim - I think that's the correct, most measured approach: we definitely want him, but the future success of our program doesn't hinge on it.
He will visit Oregon next week.
jus bc rivals says so doesnt make pryor the unanimous #1 recruit or a once in a lifetime prospect. hes not even in espn's top 3 for this year.
jus look at last years rankings. rivals has clausen #1 while espn has him 8th. all of pryors hype may be unwarranted.
i also find it weird that RR will be making an in-home to TP on saturday when bj daniels and feagin will be in AA visiting, that would kind of piss me off knowing that the guy that is recruiting me leaves while im on a visit there to go make an in-home elsewhere, especially to the top recruit at their position
not all the hype..but some
ESPN is the worst when it comes to rankings. They are an absolute joke. which also applies to everything else they do outside of ESPNEWS
ESPN employs Erin Andrews - not all is a joke.
RR can meet with people in AA and meet with TP in Penn on the same day. It's like a 1.5 hour flight between the two.
I flew from Lansing to Pittsburgh in 36 minutes.
I thought RR was in home with TP tomorrow?
Orlando,
A lot of times the recruits don't see the HC until Sunday. I agree with you, I'd be a little miffed about it, but if you're Feagins or Daniels you should know that's how the game goes sometimes. I'm sure RR will meet with them both on Sunday and possibly Saturday since he can get to PA and back pretty quickly.
@ Keegan
Wrong.
ESPN is also good at finding hot sideline reporters.
Exhibit A: Melissa Stark
Exhibit B: Erin Andrews
Exhibit C: Colleen Dominguez (to a lesser extent)
yeah but the vest is also visiting saturday, so it depends on what slot he has...if its the morning then he wont be able to eat breakfast and all that crap with the recruits and family. when he returns they would all be out at night with their hosts. we'll see how it plays out
ESPN's scouting process consists of a monkey throwing shit at a board with Quadrants marked "**", "***", "****", "*****".
Didn't Carlos Brown play some QB in high school? Maybe he should get some snaps in the spring!
What about Rachel Nichols? I think she's pretty attractive.
Keegan,
good point, i just found it weird that he would be leaving to do that during their visits..especially qb recruits that we desperatley need
dba - Carlos Brown was a full-time QB in high school. But I don't think they threw, really, at all.
Rachel Nichols doesn't get as much credit as she deserves. Plus she's a redhead so you know she's a freak
Did I say monkey? I meant Lee Corso.
Magnus,
I think Fox Sports has a better market share of the hottie reporter. Lisa Guererro and that one chick that did the extreme sports show, plus the one on Fox NFL Pregame is smoking. Sex sells and that's the only reason anything "Fox" still exists.
Sex sells and that's the only reason anything "Fox" still exists.
How do you reconcile that with Bill O'Reilly?
Who said RR is visiting TP saturday?? All I heard was his visit was Thrusday.
Orlando,
It's weird, but what isn't in the TP sweepstakes. I'm sure he's got it down to the minute of when he will be there and when he'll be meeting with the other two because they are high priority if TP doesn't come.
Magnus,
Colleen Dominguez? Maybe after a six pack. Her face has that "Riding a Harley at 60 mph" thing going on.
Chitown,
Even he had a sex scandal, then his ratings went up.
Redheads have to be freaks to make up for their redheadedness. Although she's more of the dark redhead type than the firecrotch type.
On second note, can we not talk about Bill O'Reilly anymore. I'd like to not throw up in my mouth again.
when is the latest possible date a recruit can sign with a school? and also, in TP's case, why does he need more time? We have all agreed choosing where you goto college is a huge deal (which it is) but he has had over 2 years getting ready to make this decision with all things considered.
07, april 1st
and RR's visit got moved from today to saturday
MMMMM a red headed Bill O' Riley. YUMMY!!!
Ryan just knocked dex off of the throne. That's up there with googling Tom Lemming Shirtless
and being a biased UofM fan speaking with other biased UofM fan, don't you think our recruiting class next year might be ridiculous? and for years to come for that matter if we see continued success with RR & co.
07michgrad - if he wants to visit Oregon, then delaying his decision makes sense - he doesn't have time to visit between now and signing day.
RR had an in-home with the top jr QB in texas..which is also the top player in texas, suppose to be ridiculous. he's a run pass guy, not as tall as pryor or vince young but they say faster and quicker
Keegan you didnt like that?? LOL
Russell Shepard
http://www.rivals.com/viewprospe...y=59099&
Sport=1
No, I liked it. I'm the one googling "Tom Lemming Shirtle...
Sorry I threw up before I could finish that sentence. Once was bad, saying it again was too much.
LOL! You find a pic of Tom Lemming shirt less,you send that hairy chested stud's pic my way next!! LOL!!!
TP has this saturday to visit
word on the street is that tom lemming vacations in cambodia.
Shephard is from the same area as McGuffie, Stonum and all the other houston guys. I bet they try to work that angle too.
Does Cambodia have good prep football?
Lisa Guerrero OMG shirtless
http://www.lisaguerrero.org/pict...g/
pictures.html
"It's a holiday in Cambodia!!"
Rumple...I love you.
They play skins vs shirts football their. Lemming coaches the skins team.
much better than Lemming!!!
TP is a pretty big attention whore. Not that I blame him. Seriously though, if he wanted to visit Oregon, he'd have visited already. He's just throwing stuff out there to see his name in the news.
lemming is in cambodia scouting out the 8 year old talent.
with devoe torrence
Daniel L--yeah, i thought the same about oregon. it seems by this point he would've already made the trip.
he's not exactly a diamond in the rough and that everyone is just now finding out about
"Ohio State coach Jim Tressel and Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez plan to attend Pryor's basketball game Saturday night and meet with him afterward. Jeannette football coach Ray Reitz said Rodriguez is planning to bring SEVEN assistant coaches with him."
uhhhhh so the recruits just going to hangout?
Orlando - I don't think BJ Daniels was planning on going out and partying with RR on Saturday night. That's hang out time w/ the players.
that tom lemming is a sneaky bastard. but not sneaky enough. he's going to have a seat one day and oh what a day that will be.
Lemming = Pol Pot
chitown, im aware..but 7 assistants..jeebus
musket, i just joined that heath ledger wasted his money on a 2008 calendar facebook group
thats hilarious and f'ed up
A pity he died... but not really. Although Dark Knight is going to be something to marvel at.
I reeeeeeaaaaaaally don't think that these recruits are going to be wondering where all the coaches are. Plenty of the weekend is spent without coaches anyway. Remember - they're not flying commercial, if they're attending a basketball game, they'll fly out, watch the game, talk to his family, fly home - 5 hours tops.
Hopefully RR and crew are being completely straight forward with Daniels and Feagin. B/C regardless, it doesn't look good when the entire coaching staff leaves mid-recruiting trip to talk with another QB.
What about those asshole moderators on MLive . They let the Suckeye trolls but ban the true BLUE fans when we tell them to go fuck themselves
toledoman posted an interview w/ Daniels in which he says he knows Michigan is after Pryor, and that someone else's decision won't effect his, as he thinks he can beat anyone for a job.
07grad, thank you..thats my point
the obvious answer, boleach, is that mlive is a commie pinko rag
Dont worry about the coaches being gone. Barwis will have the recruits bench pressing each other till the coaches get back.
good confidence for Daniels
BJ Daniels come on over . Tell TP make a decision or sorry
RR stay home and give the royal tour to BJ and Feagins and go hard hard hard after TRob and Perry !!!
Big and Gay Heart
How sad is it that I looked through all of the Heath Ledger groups to find the perfect one to make fun of him with?
why blow lines of ambien? i mean, come on.
BigBlue40 if you are on here the asshole moderators have banned me totally I can't even check a post to see if I am unbanned
Thankfully my mom takes Lunestra. I had to watch her for a few days.
If you are going to OD you better go out on something fantastic like SpeedBalls or snorting coke off of the devil's penis. None of this prescription drug bullshit.
Best all time M team :
QB -- Leach
FB- S.Edwards
TB- Wheatley
WR - B.Edwards AC ( #3 Howard )
TE - Tuman
OL- Elliot S Hutchinson S Everitt Dingman Skrepenak
PK- Gillette
DL- Woodley Messner Hammerstein Greer
LB- Irons EAnderson Simpkins
CB- Woodson Law
S - Wellborne D Hicks
P - Robbins
prescription drugs are a cowardly way to die.
Here's why Coach Rod is not going the Pryor in-home tonight (why it's postponed to Saturday).
R-Rod, Coach Dews, Coach Shafer, Coach Tall are attending the Detroit King Championship banquet tonight. Coach Shannon from Miami will reportedly be there as well.
Thursday.
-- One report that he'll be visiting B.J. Daniels
-- Another rumor that he'll be in Wichita, Kan., visiting 4* Oregon QB commit Chris Harper ... Harper, remember would have to visit U-M unofficially if he were to take a visit ... he's had 5 officials. --stay tuned
The only manly way to die is in the jungles of 'Nam. Even 40 years later.
musketrebellion - you're forgetting Thermopylae The only two manly ways to die are in the jungles of 'Nam and at Thermopylae.
@ BOLEACH
You don't think Jansen and/or Long are better than Skrepenak?
"SPARTAAAAAAAAAANS! What is your profession?"
"Sodomy!"
Yes they were very good as well I just like the way Skrepanak played
@ chitown
You're forgetting the third manly way to die:
as the fighter pilot in "Air Force One" who flew his plane in front of that missile.
That's true. Regardless, it's too bad that the rest of us are such pansies.
Sorry kids. It is still only 'Nam. If any asshole wants to throw their plane in front of Air Force One now I say they probably got what they had coming to them.
giving your life to save President Harrison Ford > giving your life to save George W. Bush
You also have to have an ear necklace when getting gunned down by Victor Charlie. Either that or be Jean Claude Van Damme.
I'm thinking of running my golden retriever for president. She's way above the bar of intelligence that has been set to qualify for the position.
Van Damme? Really? I agree only if you're talking about Bloodsport or Kickboxer.
Speaking of which, I guess that getting beaten to death by a man wearing gloves of glass-shards may work as well.
giving your life to save (Michigan Grad) President Harrison Ford > giving your life to save George W. Bush
Is this a football or a board for assholes to post
Bo was not a leach.
And yes - I get your name Mr. Allcaps.
Well, Bo, you're clearly an asshole, so feel welcome.
Vaughn Carraway committed to Temple! lol
"How do you reconcile that with Bill O'Reilly?"
Billo has totally captured the falafel demographic.
" Is this a football"
This is not a pipe (Magritte)
BYE BYE people when you all grow up and graduate grade school maybe we can talk football
There is no football.
You should have taken the blue pill.
Shoot, he's leaving.
Drew Sharp: New York's season just as audacious as the Patroits'
ummm....wow.....is this guy really serious...i'm starting to believe he is more of a steven colbert, just playing an idiot but secretly isnt? could he possible be this bad? I would think you would have to work really hard to be this retarded.
ok Drew, so when was the last 18-0 team in the NFL? oh, yeah, thats right, NEVER
what a clown, i just cant believe he has a job with the freep. makes me want to apply.
www.firedrewsharp.com has been bought, and now I just need some contributors...
Gay friendly getaways? Hopefully that little advertisement doesn't wind up in the wrong hands?
Does anyone have the full list of visitors for this weekend?
speaking gay, my name is brian cook
This is probably old news, but apparently Pryor might delay his decision until after signing day. He wants to visit Oregon and still has PSU "in the mix." This is too much.
I still say its too late in the year for us to pull in TP. I think if RR was here all year he would have been ours.
I hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me that Pryor is going to Ohio State. He appears to have friends there and I just sense a coolness toward Michigan, and perhaps a a gradual realization that he alone will have to, like Mike Hart the last 3 years, carry the team on his shoulders - and as a freshmen. While it's going to be exciting to see the change in offensive philosphy in 2008 and beyond with RR at Michigan, I think Michigan fans are going to have to be patient with respect to building a championship team.
"And yes - I get your name Mr. Allcaps."
aaaaand once again proving that allcaps posters are troubled souls.
"This is not a pipe (Magritte)"
WH, brilliant....where else can you get passionate discussions of the 3-5-5 stack and references to Magritte in the same place?
"speaking gay, my name is brian cook"
I took a few years of French; is gay anything similar, or is it more like Italian?
"I still say its too late in the year for us to pull in TP."
yup, and not to mention that Tressel has been recruiting TP for two years now. It's hard to make up that ground in a couple of months against a program that's been to two straight NC games, even if they lost both. If RR did pull him in, that would be a huge coup. If not, we'll be fine.
@Don
Hasn't RR been recruiting TP since he was a freshman in high school?
if tp goes to osu im keying the outline of a giant penis on his corvette!
if tp goes to osu im keying the outline of a giant penis on his corvette!
I thought that was standard equipment for all cars in Ohio.
I heard it was two years on the radio this morning, but I could certainly believe it's been longer like you say.
"I thought that was standard equipment for all cars in Ohio."
Only for guys with Sex Mustaches.
@BOLEACH
Come back I want to talk football!
Quick signing day question:
So what is the significance of Feb 6? Is that the first day they can sign?
I think several of the commenters are displaying sour grapes over TP b/c he'll likely end up at OSU at this point. It has gotten pretty ridiculous. He is clearly an impressive talent that could do great things in Rich Rod's system, and we should not be discounting that b/c he may go to OSU. In fact, we should be saying good things about him (which are warranted, btw) b/c any Michigan fan would want him to come here. I know I do. Even though I like BJ Daniels and he is a good backup plan, TP is the guy I really want as the QB for Rich Rod's spread.
Yes Anthony that is the first day they can sign, the vast majority of recruits do sign on that day.
It might be nice for RR to know where Prior is planning to go to school before he meets with the QB recruits on Sunday. Visiting TP on Sat night would give RR the most "up to date info" possible.
Thanks JHS. Is there a day that they must sign by?
@jxb:
Good point. All the recruits want to know where they stand. They know Pryor is good and is going to be a tough guy to beat.
It's a tough choice between being #2 or #3 behind Pryor at Michigan or a #1 at a smaller school. If Pryor's not coming, it's Katie bar the door.
anthony- april 1st
list of visitors for whoever wanted to know:
As far as this weekend's visitors ... the ten-plus-JB we've given you is the list so far.
-- 1. *Visit SET* Slot WR Martavious Odoms (5-8, 170) from Pahokee in SE Fla.
-- 2. *Visit SET* Fla. OL Ricky Barnum (6-3, 280) from Lakeland Lake Gibson High.
-- 3. *Visit SET* QB Justin Feagin (6-0, 195, 4.6) from Delray Beach Fla., American Heritage.
-- 4. *Visit SET* OT commit Dann O'Neill
-- 5. *Visit SET* OG commit Kurt Wermers
-- 6. *Visit SET* LB commit Ken Demens
-- 7. *Visit SET* OL commit Elliott Mealer
-- 8. *Visit SET* OL commit Rocko Khoury
-- 9. *Visit SET* Fla. QB B.J. Daniels (6-1, 190) from Tallahassee Lincoln.
-- 10. *confirmed now* Fla. Ath Onterio McCalebb from Lake Mead in the Tampa area.
-- **confirmed unofficial visit**: U-M LB commit J.B. Fitzgerald
JT Floyd supposedly is going to announce tonight..we'll see..
Gay flights? My ad says something about "Depends".
Thanks Orlando.
The ads are custom to what your website viewing habits are. Mine are travel sites because I've been looking for spring break trips.
@Anthony
Nice.
mine are travel sites aswell
I'm cheap and boring. I get Overstock.com. *sigh*
Anthony,
That is a lie. I don't look up spring break trips. Now my ad is for overstock. I don't buy anything online. I think the whole thing is gay
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80129095/
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80129100/
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80129094/
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http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80129101/
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more Larry Foote humor. This guy is comedy gold.
when does JT choose??
suppose to be tonight but i doubt it now
also 4* Oregon QB commit Chris Harper has contacted Michigan..but it seems far fetched and nothing has come of it yet..
Chris Harper may be worried about TP coming to Oregon?
I think we need TP to decide by sigining day, we can't wait for his decision, we need to get feagin and or BJ if he ain't coming.
i just want this to all be over with..so i can concentrate on school again
JHS, like your 2008 predictions on blog10..agreed with everything
He contacted Michigan? Very interesting. So the scout article saying TP may delay past signing day didn't get much talk. I imagine if anything this probably helps Michigan. LSU will probably fill its scholarships the first day. OSU (or tOSU or fOSU or whatever any of you want) is fairly high on offers. If they fill up, its between us and Oregon.
Orlando - glad you liked my 2008 predictions. Let me second your sentiment of let this be over with so I can get work done! After Feb 6 (hopefully)everything will be decided so I can get back to doing work!
Larry Foote is hilarious... never knew he had such agreat sense of humor.
Orlando Go Blue
Oregon's bigtime QB recruit is Darron Thomas out of Houston Aldine. He is a great player and RR should call him. He can't be happy that Oregon is hot for Pryor. Jackson has done great job recruiting North Houston over the years, going back about 15 years so they should push.
this blog + scout membership has ruined my life completely
Chris Harper is listed as a RB but played QB in high school, as far as a i know oregon recruited him as a QB, i dont know why RR isnt looking into this, unless he feels its too late. also he wouldnt be able to take an official visit since he has already had 5
How sad is it that our lives start and stop at the convenience of 18 year olds? I hate myself more than I hate Johnny Sears now.
Keegan,
Really sad
So Oregon has 2 4* Dual Threat qb commits and are still pursuing Pryor? Doesn't add up - If those kids are worried about Pyror it makes sense that they would look elsewhere.
oh chris harper like i said is listed as a RB and played QB in high school..also has a side note that he would play LB in college..kid must be one hell of an athlete.
FWIW, tom is mildy concerned about Perry...that pete carrol in home must of went really good
Pete Carroll needs to go coach in the pros and just leave us all alone.
IF pryor delays his commitmen anyways, I will be very unimpressed. I think he is going tosu any way, but I am sick of this girly prima dinna bull
Jaron Brown will announce Friday @ 2pm
Feel better Brian
Orlando,
I'm late to the thread, who is Jaron Brown?
3* WR from south carolina.
down to SC, Clemson and UM
were pretty much his 3rd option but just thought id let you guys know
Word
I think we have a decent shot at Brown, but I'd bet money on the fact that he ends up at one of the south carolina schools - both of the IMO need WRs worse than Michigan.
*make the both of them not both of the.
Here's why Coach Rod is not going the Pryor in-home tonight (why it's postponed to Saturday).
R-Rod, Coach Dews, Coach Shafer, Coach Tall are attending the Detroit King Championship banquet tonight. Coach Shannon from Miami will reportedly be there as well.
Thursday.
-- One report that he'll be visiting B.J. Daniels
-- Another rumor that he'll be in Wichita, Kan., visiting Oregon QB commit Chris Harper ... Harper, remember would have to visit U-M unofficially if he were to take a visit ... he's had 5 officials.
so is everyone on scout now
Larry Foote expressed some love for Gittleson there. Oh Larry, what the fuck is wrong with you?
did everyone pay the 10 dollars so i dont gotta copy and paste anymore
man i hope we land T-Rob...things are looking really good with him
no i still appreciate toledo man
sorry, i am married, i can't justify that to my wife, pleeeeeease cut and paste, I will be atching tuesday with great fervor
Toledo,
Still broke, hope Scoutguy doesn't find you before NSD. For my sake that is.
...sorry to sound pathetic, I was just kidding, sort of, not really though.
goblue,
It's not pathetic, it's life.
So SMQB makes me sad and happy at the same time. We replace our coach with an offensive genius, which doesn't appear to be as important as someone who would be a defensive genius.
Then again, at least we have a solid defense returning.
word, to be married is to be broke, espeially living in metro DC and owning a home on a teachers salary.
floyd----we expect to hear a decision, or we expect to hear if a decision is being postponed ... no word either way as yet
GoBlueDC.. you get the whole summer off, name me another job that has that and gets paid for a full year? Plus job security, excellent benes. kwiturbitchin.
Toledo Man - I always welcome your posts, please keep them coming.
they are goona give floyd 1 more hour then call it a postponement
Penn ST recruiting tactic?
Word is that they told Pryor OSU will make him into a WR. (this may be a rumor but I heard an OSU insider confirmed)
Gotta believe Toney Clemons
is in Pryor's ear. There is no doubt! Also, I know Martin is on Pryor as well. I think the good guys get Pryor. I know there is a ton of negative stuff in regards to our chances, but I gotta a little bird who tells me otherwise. Thats all I can say, which may seem convenient, but it is what it is. My little bird has been dead on about everything outside of Legion, and that was a freaking circus. He called RR to UM real early. But whatever, we'll see if we're right come Feb 6th.
Non Recruiting: I know signing day is approaching, but man, I am freaking jacked up thinking about our new team this year. All our playmakers in space! We return a lot of D. Our young coaching staff makes me think agressive agressive agressive. But calculated agressiveness, almost like organized chaos. And I can't wait to see the wheels on our secondary after a spring with the Barwis Initiative. Fast LBs, we return our whole DLine. Ahhhh, I can't wait.
i can believe it, something tells me tosu wont transform into that spread run option that was promised
Anonymous, having spent 20 years of my life as a teacher, I can seriously say STFU.
Summer off, yes, but it's 16 hours a day the rest of the year.
I can just see JoePa telling Pryor "They'll make you into a WR over at OSU, come to PSU you'll be the best wing-t qb since Angelo Bertelli."
After seeing what happened to Derrick Williams the last number one recruit to go to PSU - I can see why Pryor would be wary.
I really think as of right now OSU wants to keep Pryor away from UM more than they want Pryor themselves. There is no way Tressel is going to give Pryor and significant playing time over 6th year senior and returning starter Boekman. Beanie wells is the best player on OSU, you better believe that Tressel is going to give him the ball way more than he throws it.
this was wrote on the wall of the barwis group..
Mike Barwis is a great S&C coach. But you don't need him to know how to use a treadmill.
is he bashing him or am i taking it wrong?
JHS, what about henton? was he highly recruited? i dont know much about him, but i would have to think that he would also get a look over pryor
I don't really get the thing about Barwis, either. There isn't anything a trainer does that in principle you couldn't do yourself.
A trainer supplies external motivation, an authority to push you harder than you would push yourself. You don't need Barwis to run on a treadmill, but with him you will run longer and faster than you would without him.
I smell an OSdouche.
Henton is a southerner so he must have great speed. But if IIRC he was a 4* recruit and OSU fans have been proclaiming him as the next troy smith ever sense he went to OSU.
1) calling out teachers == BAD call, that had to be sarcasm
2) I interpret the barwis comment as a dis on mitchell and his "I think I'm just gonna get fat" thinking. I also think that its a double edged sword saying Barwis isn't all that and a bag of potato chips. That sad soul is probably already dead.
Starting to like the fOSU thing.
Ok, after about 2 full years on the comment threads, I finally figured out what IIRC means. It was the one acronym that always escaped my knowledge (being too lazy to look it up, and too proud to ask). It all makes sense right now.
It means "Irony is really cool," IIRC.
http://georgia.scout.com/2/354403.html
Here's an article on Henton - he was really interested in the southern schools but wound up at OSU, the article keeps spelling his name as "Hinton."
I'm pretty sure he was a pretty big recruiting get for the Bucks, he had a shot at starting this year as RS Frosh, but was beaten out by Boekman.
so i think henton will either get PT or transfer..cant see him riding the pine his whole career if he is that highly touted
typo above *ever since he went to osu not ever sense*
yeah formerly, hopefully barwis already took care of that chump
Henton's problem with transfering is that he already has had a RS year so he will lose a year of eligiblity if he transfers. I've heard some rumblings that OSU will be using two qbs at time in '08 so I'm guessing they are trying to get henton some PT so he doesn't transfer.
it will be interesting to see how henton developes and if tp goes there how the competition would be..
If TP goes to OSU Tressel will basically be forced to play him because I bet he would transfer he didn't get any significant time year one.
damn it tp just go to michigan
I hope that we get Perry too. I am getting really tired of Caroll and USC. Somebody posted a link to 2009 recruiting because Michigan already has a 5* commitment in the top 100. Scrolling through you could see that USC already had about 10 commitments out of the top 100. It is amazing how many top prospects are willing to go there to sit 4 deep on the bench.
I guess that once it becomes widely known that you will buy houses for your players and the NCAA will look the other way, the whole recruiting thing gets a lot easier...
I feel that losing Pryor would be a major blow but its definetly not the end of the world. Maybe he'll end up being the next justin Zwick or he might not every beat out Henton who doesn't seem to be the least bit scared of him coming in. Also, even if he is the second coming of VY let's remember VY got raped by OU his first two years despite having an insane amount of talent around him. Plus, Ohio state loses nearly everyone after the 2008 season. Who the hell is he gonna throw it to?
I'll be more than ok if we dont get pryor but get perry instead. But i DO NOT want Shepard as a qb. He's reggie ball level bad throwing the football, look at his numbers. Under a thousand yards both seasons and under 50% completion percentage. Can you say Wide reciever?
Any word on JT Floyd? Supposed to be making a decision this evening...
i believe they're post-poning it..
i was just looking through our 03 class on rivals and i saw clayton richards...that gave me a good laugh
MNMaize, who is shepard?
IIRC? I thought it meant "If I recover completely".
I swear Clayton Richards Played in '04 a few snaps when Henne was sucking early in the season. CLayton Richards is a minor pitcher for the white sox. He had great size for a qb 6-5, 225. I wish him a better baseball career than drew henson had.
http://collegefootball.rivals.co....asp?
CID=767414
Rival's preseason top 25.
Anyone catch this on facebook?
Mealer asked Wilson "ready to be a wolverine??"
Wilson responded "i dont know man i dont like what rod is doing"
Thanks for the update SJU - Christian Wilson seems like a good kid/player, but I think he knows RR's system is not a good fit for a player with his skill set.
Not sure if anyone saw this, but our lone 2009 commitment William Campbell was recently given the 5* status by rivals. Looking at the short film they had on him...he looks like a BEAST! 6'4", 327 pounds, appears to be mostly muscle, and shows a lot of quickness.
http://rivals100.rivals.com/cont....asp?
cid=768064
I know RR is obviously busy closing this class out, but Campbell is a guy we need to make sure stays committed. If we can get Perry this year, along with Martin and Campbell, this will be quite a force in a few years, a la Branch, Woodley, etc.
That kid is a freaking monster. Holy crap.
Question to any teachers out there.
Do you guys get paid for the time you teach (nine months) and it just gets spread out over 12 months? Or is it a 12 month salary?
Not being a smart ass here, I think teachers should be paid more than politicians do and a lot more at that.
Campbell is awesome. I hope he sticks with it, Cissoko-style.
13. Wisconsin (9-4)
Maybe cornerback Jack Ikegwuonu, who tore his ACL while preparing for the draft, wishes he stayed in school. The Badgers still return nine starters on defense.
http://collegefootball.rivals.co....asp?
CID=767414
Gotta feel bad for the kid, he who stayed frosty v. a plummer wide receiver on fire
plummer=plumber=The New Math
Teachers in NY can elect to do either, but apparently most of them have it spread out
How many times has Carlos Brown been mentioned as a possibility to run the spread-option?
Are you people serial?
I can see Carlos getting a few snaps ala the wild hog formation - but I wouldn't want him as a QB for the whole game.
So are we to assume that Floyd has postponed his announcement? Hopefully he still is thinking Blue.
Does anyone else feel kinda nostalgic for the Lloyd era, where we didn't really give two-shits about recruiting? My head hurts...
Who did TJ Lawrence pick for next year? It says on rivals he decided.
There's a reason why Pryor is getting so close to the OSU recruits:
He's secretly learning how to exploit their weaknesses in the future. Playing them like some undercover ninja assassin. Soon to reveal his true MAIZE and BLUE colors to the world.
Screw OSU. For all eternity.
1. fOSU, childish, but hey so is tOSU. Make it so #1.
2. Mike Barwis, All your recruit are belong to him. Mike Barwis.
3. I think they should change the statutory rape law to allow consensual activities if you're within three years of each other. If you're a senior in highschool you should be able to bang a sophomore! College sophomore->Highschool seniors. And 4 year olds should ... oh wait.
4. Cool, who can do web layout for firedrewsharp.com? Let's make T-shirts that say "Drew Sharp is an ASSCLOWN"
5. Four years of B.J. Askew prove that no one gets tired of rooting for B.J.!!!!1112!1
6. Brian, if the italics at the top of the post were directed at me, weellll excuuuse meeeeeee. I'm stuck in a country that only knows about football because of Hines Ward(citizen #1: Hines Ward was Superbowl MVP!!!! Citizen #2: What is Shuperball? Citizen #1: ??uh???). And here, there's nothing to do past midnight on a weekday except drink, karaoke, have sex, and check mgoblog in between starcraft pwnage. (in that order. actually that was monday. lastnight I skipped the karaoke). Anyway, gets wells soons. We appreciate your unhealthy obsession with highschool boys on this side of the ocean.
I never realized that Kwame Kilpatrick was such model and upstanding citizen. He is perfect for Detroit.
"Does anyone else feel kinda nostalgic for the Lloyd era, where we didn't really give two-shits about recruiting?"
Are you freaking kidding me? This year is no different... I've been listening to guys like Allen Wallace, Tom Lemming, Bill Kurelic, and Tom Beaver blather on breathlessly about Michigan recruiting on the radio for at least 10 years.
The most frequent criticism of Lloyd Carr that I heard during his tenure went something like, "Fire Lloyd Carr - we get top five recruiting classes every year, so we shouldn't lose any games." Putting aside the fact that we didn't get top five classes every year, that statement revealed that people were taking recruiting rankings too seriously during the Carr era. It won't change under RR, either.
starcraft~~~~~!
The gay friendly get away banner is going to send the wrong message to my employers if they happen to walk in on my cube today. How will I explain it? I'm not looking for a vacation right now...
And I'd watch it on the Kwame criticism, unless you enjoy sleeping at the bottom of the Detroit River.
Can anyone confirm what SJUblue said several posts up?
Count me among those that simply don't get the Kwame business.
So the guy had an affair and fired some cops to cover up that affair and then spent millions of dollars of taxpayer money in court arguing that he didn't fire them for the very reason that he actually did all while perjuring himself because he didn't know that all his naughty text messages were stored forever.
Who hasn't? What's the big deal?
Are you his lawyer true Blue?
Im gettinq tired of the whole TP coverage. Everyone knows he is doing it for the coverage, however smart it may be. I kind of do hope he goes to tOSU and suffers a carreer shattering injury in the first game of the first season.
Wow that is kind of shitty thing to say about an 18 year old, though I am sick of the coverage myself.
We need a psychological professional in here to cut through the delusions, unfulfilled fantasies, and misplaced anger issues that many posters have towards the TP situation.
omg he's doing it 4 teh attention!
(because mike hart never said anything for the attention, it was all for the team!)
omg he's soooo overrated i don't even want him!
(because every recruiting agency and coach in football < your opinion on the basis of a youtube clip)
omg he's on the take from fosu!
(not exactly confirmed and if it is true, and michigan is really still in the race...then....well....)
Yeah, he *might* end up being overrated but to try and call that now is a shot in the dark and you know in your heart this to be true.
Brian's gotta do something about these gay-friendly getaway banners.
homophobe
Does anyone on here like Meeechigan Dan? ANYONE?!?!
What a fucking douchebag.
We're best friends, I am his favorite entity.
I don't know what you guys are so worried about. My recruiting class on Playstation is coming together nicely.
The NCAA should investigate cfaller, I heard he stole a car from San Andreas to give to his prized QB recruit. Shenanigans!!
Scout says Floyd pulled the trigger. Did he go blue?
@Rumple - yup, looks like it.
dex, I know how to make it rain for my boyz...
thanks
Cfaller
Ahh, but can you supersoak dem hoes?
Also, screw you. My in season recruiting is going terribly right now. I somehow managed to schedule myself only 5 home games.
Someone - Rivals account - Lawrence made decision - hurry!
@Musket - the Rivals article said he's made a decision, but he's not telling anyone. Just a tease
Although it also says that he told UM and SC coaches not to visit because he's got 'tests'. Not a great sign.
Ahh. What a penis. I kid I kid.
@MusketRebellion
The trick to recruiting in Playstation is to use the 'Sex Mustache' pitch. It works every time.
So just to confirm: JT Floyd commited to U of M and TJ Lawerence knows where he is going but isn't saying.
Lawrence is 95% to Florida. Just not saying it yet.
cfaller
I thought that only worked on the kids who showed up in I-Rocs.
After all the wacky stuff coming out of WVU and the Gov's mouth I've suspected that state may not be stable but this is a bit much:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/
sto...EMPLATE=DEFAULT
What is going on with Christian Wilson? Anyone know, it says he is FB which is vital to the spread.
...typical WV. While the rest of the country is trying to get guns OUT of schools, WV wants to get them INTO schools.
I think they are a little shlow out there (thank you Lou Holtsh).
LOL - there is still a picture of "Bike" Hart on the main page! Hahahahaha
Don't kids ever go by their name anymore? What's with all of these initials? Are their names like Jebadiah Tarleton Floyd? Tedmund Jamsheed Lawrence?
I think we've already established that Dex is #1 on MDan's shit list, followed, in uncertain order, by CFaller and myself.
LOL - there is still a picture of "Bike" Hart on the main page! Hahahahaha
FearTheVest | 01.31.08 - 10:10 am | #
I feel like I've heard this one somewhere...
@Musket
Well, you have to give the IROCs to the kids when they're juniors. Then the Sex Mustache Lifestyle is just the natural next step. No college program can compete with this system, I hope RichRod reads these comments.
No MDan loves me. He finds my comments insightful and witty.
I don't know where I am on MDan's shit list, but I think the last grenade volley exchange ended amicably. He's worried about how a spread option offense will hurt recruiting, I'm not. That's all.
Anything noteworthy going on here today? Other than some dumbass trying to make fun of one of the Big Ten's most prolific runners ever?
The only thing that hurts recruiting is losing.
cfaller - he actually mentioned, out of the blue, on about 3 occassions yesterday, that he thought you and I were unreasonable, and launched ad hominem attacks.
Rather, he felt that you and I launched ad hominem attacks - not that he did yesterday.
JT Floyd is a CB, no?
ON the radio this morning Jeremy Crabtree said the top three head coaches in the country in terms of recruiting were:
1. Mack Brown
2. Phillip Fulmer
3. Dan Hawkins
Floyd is listed as a 3 star safety on Scout.
Jeremy Crabtree is mistaken.
His list should have said:
1. Charlie Weis
2. Charlie Weis
3. Charlie Weis
@chitown
Oh? I didn't realize, I was traveling most of yesterday. Huh. Well, I guess part of me should care...but I really don't.
Dan Hawkins? Really?
@chitown
To be fair, I did get a little personal when I referenced MDan "praying to his heathen NFL gods." So, that might be considered ad hominem...if you pray to the NFL gods, that is.
@ Fkightschi
Charlie Weiss is quite literally three men in one.
Only the heathen ones.
He said Hawkins is everywhere -- every Nike camp etc. None of the three guys he mentioned seems charismatic at all to me.
Hawkins who?
Is he automatically discounting Pete Carroll because his program does enough recruiting by itself? And by program I mean illegal programs of course. Nothing on Zook either?
@chitown
Well, IMO
NFL Gods == Heathen
That's why maybe I was ad hominem.
I guess that's why Pete Carroll wasn't up there. I suppose Crabtree also wants to give what sounds like a smart unconventional answer. He's on the radio down here in Alabama about twice a week. Each time someone calls asking where Julio Jones is going, and Crabtree has to give the same canned answer. That has to get old.
Yeah, I mean, at some point, wouldn't actual results matter when deciding who the best recruiter is? I'd argue that Weis HAS to be a great recruiter - how else can he get all those recruits to that dirty-ass town to play for an incompetent coach of a drowning program? THAT is a salesman.
He probably threatens to sit on their house.
...or to eat them
"Who hasn't? What's the big deal?"
I agree. The good citizens of Detroit should hold a special election and put Kwame in office for life. Believe me, nothing would surprise me. How anyone could vote for a grown man wearing that big stupid earring is beyond me.
Detroit voters, Kwame, and William Clay Ford all deserve each other.
But Hawkins? He seems to do a mediocre job getting kids to go to Boulder (beautiful town) where they get to try to bang stoned chicks all day. Really - is that hard?
Yes, it is that hard. It's DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL. THE BIG 12. Go play intramurals, brother.
"Charlie Weiss is quite literally three men in one."
And Mark Mangino is quite literally three Charlie Weises in one.
Two serious comments:
1. Re: Hawkins
I don't get why he can't seem to recruit CU either, considering he managed to bring some pretty solid guys into Boise f'n State.
2. Re: Weis
I have to think ND is still a big name. Even with the subpar results, it's ND- and what football fan doesn't know about the tradition there? Being UM fans we have a natural aversion to them, but if I were a highly recruited football player, the gold helmets, NBC deal, and general tradition of the program would at least make me consider it- especially since if they win 9 games they are guaranteed a huge bowl.
I'm going to pistol-whip the next guy that says "shenanigans!"
NavyBLUE - that's a terrible thing to say about someone
granted, all this coverage is annoying, and i don't really want someone who could be a prima donna at qb either. but wishing an injury on someone? bucks don't even go that low
What's the name of that restaurant you like again? The one with all the shit on the walls?
OH SHENANIGANS!! ...oh hamburgers.
dex-
Plus Rudy draws people like Jimmah
I think Charlie Weis' "if you don't come to Notre Dame, I'm going to eat your family" recruiting tactic is working very well for him
I would think Zook has to be just as good as Weiss, he has/had no success with his program at Illinois and still gets ridiculous recruits. I mean he can't coach worth a damn but that wasn't the question.
bluestatedon-
ahhh yessss Detroit voters... the only reason Michigan is a perennial blue state, AND the reason the rest of the state hates them.
That and dragging down the entire state's economy with their crappy automobiles.
But seriously. I understand the NBC deal, and the gold helmets, etc.
BUT, considering that top recruits are disproportionately black, how much appeal would a hardcore Irish-Catholic campus culture have?
Have you been to South Bend? It's the worst. The Gold helemts are one thing, but would you live there for 4 years?
I hope Brian isn't in the Arab Emirates or anywhere on that side of the world. Being sick and no/limited internet access would blow.
They should make a movie about when Bo arrived and a bunch of kids bounced but those who stayed knocked off those buckeyes. Then we could have a great tradition movie, and ours wouldn't be about a guy who really sucked.
I forget who wrote the piece, but someone at ESPN was ranking the best sports movies, and, when Rudy came up, he wrote that the movie was especially good because it was prophetic: since the movie, Notre Dame has continued to bring in slow and unathletic players
I would argue that UMASS has the worst campus imaginable. And its in a heavy catholic area of western MA. Not to mention the architecture of the campus is enough to make anyone want to jump off of the tallest brick building in North America.
They should make a movie about Larry Harrison.
@chitown
Yeah I've been to ND a couple times and each visit made me want to die.
But business wise, if your looking at maximum exposure, playing at ND is a pretty good bet. And if you plan on being good, then it's a really great bet.
The problem is, someone is probably working on an App State movie right now. Fuck.
Why do people love underdogs, and why can't we ever be one.
The best example was in 2005. We were an unranked, .500 team playing against a top-ten, undefeated team (Penn State), and we were giving them points. Turns out those odds-makers are pretty good, but seriously?
People love underdogs because most of us are failures when compared to our high expectations (god knows I am). So when the little team that could beats up the big bad successful team, they get joy because it validates their belief that they really are smarter than their boss and nobody believes in them but they have the power to shock the world~!@~!~!
I was thinking the same thing the other day about App State. It would be a book fist. The title would be something asinine like "Against All Odds: How a Little School from Nowhere Pulled Off the Greatest Upset in College Football History." By Mitch Albom, with Bob Greene.
Then our favorite writer Drew Sharp would write a book called, "Why UM sucks and App. State is the new Notre Dame"
It would include a detailed 12 page chapter where Albom discusses the reaction of Ty Law while watching in the Big House. Followed by a two sentence retraction.
And then a chapter of short sentences.
With lots of line breaks.
Short is profound.
Look at me, I'm a sportswriter!
Short is profound.
It should be called, "One Time Crable Fucked Up, and Sun Stopped Rising."
couple things...
number 1
that bit on teachers, and how they get hte summer off, that was really funny...
number 2
anyone that thinks an S & C coach is just a motivator, doesnt know anything about sport specific training... and has never had a coach
number 3
i have several tapes from our current dc, on robber coverage and cfover two man under stuff out of the 3-4 that my head coach had got from him when he was at western.. Apartently he knew him pretty well, so i have acess to a lot more of his stuff then i thought i did. Ill give you some specific terminology and stuff, after bball season, and i have a chance to break down his stuff...
mitch albom. ugh. i could just see the intro to his book:
"the indian summer broke beautiful and consuming over the stretching green of the gridiron. it appeared as if the world was right, as it should be.
but a tempest was brewing.
armani edwards was about to die. and go to heavan. but before he died, he made me eat cow tounge. and i cried. because im a little whiny pussy.
who always uses a single sentance paragraph for emphasis."
I think Mitch Albom's book "The Five People You Meet When You Go To Heaven" is a great piece of fiction writing considering that asshole is going straight to hell.
That's awesome!
The reason why I think a book is coming is articles like this:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80129007/
1054
The pain will never go away!
tuesdays with morrie made me want to kill morrie just so he wouldnt have to spend time with mitch albom anymore
fucking spot on big gay heart, +10 to you
I'm assuming that Lloyd and Mitch are both reasonably wealthy men. So, why do they insist on getting their haircut with a straight line of hair around mid-ear? That bothers me.
its funny because the freep went from being a respected newspaper to featuring two of the biggest jokes in america.
also, did anyone read the article about bj daniels today? it states, factually, that daniels scored "10 or 15 touchdowns" last year running the ball.
really? 10 or 15? i thought touchdowns scored was an absolute number, not a range. guess not.
Exhibit A:
http://images.usatoday.com/life/...09/25/
albom.jpg
Exhibit B:
http://bentley.umich.edu/athdept...aches/
lcarr.jpg
Yeah, that guy knew they were going to beat UM... right after he blocked the field, again, with 5 seconds left.
Maybe they both go to the same barber on State St. Is it still there? That guy used to love the no-sideburn look. Nice and clean.
It's tough to tell the difference between passing TDs and rushing TDs for reporters. So confusing. And all those dark players look a like, it could have been any one of them.
dex:
plus, they're all wearing helmets. its hard enough to tell one black male from another when they ARENT wearing helmets.
the world is doooomed.
1. Color me surprised, a football team had the foresight to think going into a game that they were going to win? Ideally, every team would think that every time they played a game.
2. Nice headline in that article, since the quote is
"We knew we were going to win," Brown said. "Well, we knew we weren't going to look like fools, that we would at least give them a good game."
mrg:
i love how the hair just stops. its like "hair, hair, hair...skeeeert. no hair.'
MRG --
Even wealthy men have poor taste.
Tuesday's With Morrie... Chronic Zonyk? I just wanted to kill him, but I was too busy doodling, sleeping, or throwing books across the classroom.
"The big schools recruit good-looking players," Brown said. "They don't always recruit players who can play well. Nobody took a shot on Corey Lynch because he looks like crap."
This is an amazing quote from a teammate.
@ dex
... that is tabloid journalism at its best.
They are no better than Us and NAtional Enquirer exclaiming Britney is dead on the cover of the magazine only to tell you inside there was credible source to coroborate the information.
Britney is dead from the neck up.
yeah no shit, musket, that guy was supreme douche.
@dex
Color me surprised, a football team had the foresight to think going into a game that they were going to win? Ideally, every team would think that every time they played a game.
Obviously, you're not politically informed, because you clearly don't recognize the mentality of the "Give Up Before We Lose!" Democratic Party.
(/political bitching)
Albom is one of those sportswriters who thinks they could just as easily have been a philosophy professor. But because they wanted to indulge their quirky playful side, they decided to follow their true love -- sports, which they have indulged in vicariously since they were kids.
I hear the Lord of the Flies is a great book though.
I think Mitch Albom rote lord of the floes...or maybe he wrote lord of the fly balls: the detroit tigers miraculous run to the world series
Mitch Albom is mad because one time he stumbled into Rick's, thought he was in heaven, and then got herpies from one of the girls. He's been writing trite and contemptable filth ever since. Not to mention completely making up lies. Him and Pat Forde should share the ooky cookie.
i bet mitch's wife slaps him around. hard.
Honestly, there was a time in my life when I thought Mitch Albom was the greatest sports writer alive and I wanted to be just like him.
It was 1996, and I was 11 years old.
New thread yo...
@cfaller
What do you think of Hulk Hogan endorsing Barack Obama? I think that is going to win him not only the nomination, but two terms.
I am iwth you dex, my dad used to like Mitch Albom and he turned me on to him... then mitch started writing books and my dad stopped reading him. he just plain sucks.
I hated Tuesday With Morrie. It was so cheesy and Mitch has no heart. LOL big gay heart. I didn't grow up reading him and then I just read TWM one day, and Albom really seems like a sanctimonious little prick.
Someone better not even think of making a movie about App State. It wasn't about them winning as much as it was about UM playing a shitty game and losing. Now Boise St. was impressive.
Someone is actually making a movie about Ryan Leaf. I think it's an independent project, but that's pretty funny.
Dan Hawkins is a great recruiter and even better coach. He is also very charismatic, you can find his blog at cubuffs.com called Bloggin' with Hawk. Really, a very philosophical guy with a lot of interests. He should be credited with building the Boise State program. It's only his second year at CU and he is turning it around, he started in a very difficult situation in Boulder. They won 2 games his first year, and 6 in his second including a win over Oklahoma. I am hoping he can land Darrell Scott over Texas, we'll see come NSD.
Hawkins should just take recruits to sex parties. It worked for Gary Barnett.
It's just hard to think of someone as a great recruiter when he has his son at QB.
Herpes!? From a girl at RIcks!? Say it's not so.
Troy Smith sparked a lethargic Ravens offense, so much so that he started a few games towards the end of the season. Give him a chance before you write him off as a flop.
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