my question is: where will TS be drafted? now, I'd guess late 2nd round assuming good combine results.
3-4 weeks ago, I argued with a titans-fan friend that TS had done everything VY had done in his career. and that every QB quality VY had, TS had as well (except 4.4 speed & 6-6 height but these are not accurate metrics of a good NFL qb). thus, i expected late 1st round, but personally, I'd say top 10ish.
(key in limiting USC's run defense when it bothered to throw)
Did I miss a joke or is that just the most schizo parenthetical in history?
I think Jarrett only missed one game. He was in and out of maybe two or three others, but he played and caught at least one pass in every game except Washington State.
Brian:
I live in Atlanta, and you are absolutely in no way exaggerating; Reggie Ball is indeed the worst 4-year starting QB in NCAA history.
Georgia Tech fans were holding onto to an outside hope that the incredible game Calvin Johnson had catching passes from an actual Division 1 collegiate quarterback with traceable brainwave activity like Taylor Bennett in the Gator Bowl would've reignited his love for the game and inspired him to stick around for his senior year at The Flats, but sadly it was not to be; the damage was done, three years of being Balled was enough to sour him on Tech football altogether. That said he's better off than the Tech fans who had to endure it four four years (minus one bowl game).
The fact that Bennett had as good a game as he did when given his chance to start (admittedly against the wonky Big East Defense of WVU) only makes one wonder what compromising photos Ball must own of Chan Gailey and various livestock breeds that kept him on as the starter for so long; surely no coach in Division 1 football can actually be that dumb?
re:Branch. His loss, I feel, will prove to be even bigger than most are predicting though we do have somoe good ones returning. I saw some criticism recently of him(elsewhere) related to his stats. DT's won't usually get stats since their job is to occupy o-linemen-keep them off of lb's, hold their ground, and disrupt opponents' game-plans(particularly the running game). He has been exceptional.
I don't know what happened there, but I submit that it's probably outside the realm of possibility for anyone to be merely "neutralized," especially the stars of the team. While turnovers are obviously the most costly, not performing when your team desperately needs you to is tantamount to negative play. Failing to get a first down or making certain yardages, especially considering that Felix Jones found himself able, makes McFadden's performance also a failure. It's not a coincidence that the two that you regard as having failed are quarterbacks. Their failures are always more evident.
Question regarding Ball/Johnson. Do most fans put Ball's failure to improve as a qb on Nix, Gailey, or Geis? I read somewhere that he completed something like 46% as a frosh and this year improved to 46%-joking. He does not seem to have improved at all while being a four year starter. I'd appreciate hearing your opinion on this Johnny.
I'm very interested in people's take on what exactly happened to OSU and Smith (aside from the clear dominance of the SEC where OSU would have lost 7-8 games--natch). My impression was OSU's game plan, similar to the UM game, was to put everything on Smith's shoulders in the spread. However, unlike the UM game Smith was not perfect but was completely horrible. This result was aided by the cascade caused by the Ginn injury which put better DB's on Gonzo, Robiskie, etc. I didn't think the pass rush was the culprit because I thought both PSU and UM put a pretty good rush on Smith and he still managed.
One must also consider the possibility that Smith sold his soul for 3 victories over UM and on Monday Satan collected.
I am less shocked by OSU's defensive incomptence than by FLA's offensive brilliance. OSU's defense relied on mistakes and FLA made none. If there was any indication over the season that FLA could play so well offensively for a whole game, I am unaware of it.
I still marvel at the success of Tebow's stupid QB's draws.
freak, i agree for the most part. but still, that Oline wasn't that bad all year for OSU. I'll never forget the OSU LT doubling the DT instead of taking the (now unblocked & about to *erase* TS) DE.
again, TS felt pressure vs M, esp from woodley. It just seemed like TS had blinders on & woodley was .0001 sec too late. TS hit the turf a few times vs M, but didn't seem phased by it at all. quite the opposite vs UF.
also, Calvin Johnson's experience @ GT is why RoJo shouldn't go to MSU
Just a random, probably insipid thought... Has anyone floated the idea that Troy Smith was on the take? Perhaps Clarett's Israeli mafia friends or whatever managed to get to him. Relax, Buckeyes, I'm kidding. But seriously, what other explanation is there?
Just a random, probably insipid thought... Has anyone floated the idea that Troy Smith was on the take? Perhaps Clarett's Israeli mafia friends or whatever managed to get to him. Relax, Buckeyes, I'm kidding. But seriously, what other explanation is there?
I think part of what hurt SMith was the fact that the Florida DBs could actually cover. The short routes he was hitting voer and over again to soften up Michigan weren't there against Florida. He just didn't have the time for those longer developing routes.
If Michigan could've covered better, who knows, maybe those times when Woodley was a step late are turned into a couple sacks.
Then we coulda watched Florida torch our boys when DeBord came in with the same ol gameplan.
(key in limiting USC's run defense when it bothered to throw)
Did I miss a joke or is that just the most schizo parenthetical in history?
No, that was just a deeply bizarre error. Weird.
notcarolinablue:
About the blame for Reggie Ball, most fans at this point put it on Gailey. Nix is blame free - if I am trying to run an offense with my aged grandmother at QB, no matter what I call my aged grandmother is still throwing the rock. By the way, that is my favorite nickname for Ball.
Ball takes some of the blame - who on earth doesn't ever improve in four years as a QB? I mean, seriously. But in the end the blame must be on the head coach. His decision to keep Ball in has single-handedly shaken the fan base's confidence in his coaching ability. FYI - life long UM fan, went to school at GT.
FYI2 - After being both a GT and UM fan for the past month, college football is now dead to me.
JMac, is Buddy Geis your O coordinator or is Gailey? Your point about Gailey having lost fan's confidence probably has played into his flirting with the Dolphins I would think.
I'm with you as being a fan-and feeling your pain ;), life long UM fan but I do like GT since the Pepper Rodgers/Eddie Lee Ivory(sp?) days-lived in ATL for about 3 years and my sister is an '83 GT grad.
notcarolinablue, New guy named Patrick Nix had his first year calling plays this year. Previously Gailey called plays and didn't do so well. I think Nix did pretty well considering my aged grandmother was in at QB. But then again, he always had the play "Throw ball in vicinity of Calvin Johnson no matter what percentage of defense is covering him."
notcarolinablue:
I share JMac's assessment. Gailey was the one who should've pulled the plug well earlier (in the Clemson game, nationally televised on ESPN, Tech got absolutely skunked. Johnson didn't catch a single pass all night because not a single pass was thrown his way...that should've been the last straw).
Tech fans (and I used to be a GT season ticket holder so I have to count myself as one, too) were dreading the Gator Bowl because if Tech had to start a QB who couldn't get the nod over Reggie Ball there were two hard realities they had to face, neither of them terribly positive:
1.) If Bennett sucked worse than Ball, the quality of the Tech pigball program had deteriorated to the point where Reggie Ball was by far and away the best "talent" they could hope to recruit at the position.
2.) If Bennett played well (which he did), the judgement of the head coach completely sucks and Tech fans have to accept the fact that they are the only program in the country whose head coach is even dumber than the starting quarterback who flunks out of school just in time for a New Year's Day bowl game.
Things aren't as bad as the early Bill Curry (1-9-1, 1-10) years, but the fact that this program threatens to cross over from respectability to conference title contention on a regular basis (as well as playing very well against most out-of-conference competition) and continues to shoot itself in the foot has Tech fans wondering whether or not the current AD even cares about the program at all. Tech is well on its way to becoming a basketball school; UM would do well to look into buying out Paul Hewitt's contract to that end.
The fact that Bennett had as good a game as he did when given his chance to start (admittedly against the wonky Big East Defense of WVU) only makes one wonder what compromising photos Ball must own of Chan Gailey and various livestock breeds that kept him on as the starter for so long; surely no coach in Division 1 football can actually be that dumb?
Two words: Chan Gailey.
This is not a complex problem, really. I'm sure that there's a rotting impala carcass somewhere out in the Serengeti that's as we speak/type/whatever a better QB than Ball could ever hope to be even in his wildest dreams.
Reggie Ball was enabled by his retarded coach. The only guy I know who runs 4th and inches in shotgun formations.
I dunno maybe 60 days of getting fat slowed OSU down or maybe someone slipped tressel a little GHB and he totally forgot how to coach his ass off. I do know that its kind of hard to look good when the entire 8 man front runs through lanes like tech geeks during a Nintendo WII sale at the local Best Buy. Pathetic gameplan, pathetic effort, but I love those bitches either way.
Nix(former Auburn qb?) used to be the qb's coach and then moved to oc, correct? Their season, with a road destruction of VaTech could have been so much more than it was-had the overrated ND on the ropes.
I am still amazed that a guy can start four years(first start was a road win at Auburn I believe?) and appear to have gone nowhere during that time. Simply amazing.
Like UM, it seemed as though the offense didn't mind the defense trying to carry the entire team rather than making it a truly team effort.
Did you just vote Omar Jacobs for Maxwell Pundit of the year?
Cool.
*laugh*
I think the best part about Reggie Ball is how much better John Navarre was, even as a freshman, than Ball ever came to be. Navarre was our Alert Five aircraft and Ball was the beverage of choice. Good times.
I'll just add to the discussion that Nix cannot be blame free has he has been the QB coach for all four of Reggie's not standing in the pocket, non-checkdown, inaccurate passing, kicking trainers, wonderment.
He had both duties this year and while he did OK as an OC at time, his inability either a)make his angry midget QB better or b)notice that his goofy white QB had it in him to be a gamer is disheartening.
I still hold some concern about Bennett at QB, because most people other than Reggie could look good with a part humanpart cheetahpart gorilla cyborg playing WR for them.
LOL at the opening paragraph(s) on Branch...
Jesus, we just got killed out there...
It was the first fight in Rocky III, and we weren't Clubber Lang...
so getting a cheap helmet-to-helmet is the reason this guy is good? when psu beats michigan 35-17 next year in ann arbor and morelli is a top 5 draft pick, that will be the reason you're a moron.
Wow, cheap helmet-to-helmet. Thanks to all that holy the refs threw him out of the game for that. No? Well, at least they flagged him for that. No? The refs must be on the take (or they all live in Lloyd Carr's basement).
I'm still waiting for Morelli to live up to his recruiting hype. In the mean time, enjoy the Henne, Hart and Manningham Show.
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