Here it is
http://blog.nola.com/lsusports/
2...ing_at_lsu.html
How did every thing fall apart so fast?
We are a laughing stock like ND.
ANGRY MICHIGAN COACH-HATING GOD
Goddamnit...
No Miles, no Tenuta.
I swear it's gonna be fucking DeBord and English running the show in 2008.
yikes, in the span of one morning we go from espn reporting "miles will be michigan's next coach" to "miles signs multi-year deal at LSU"...
now what?
As inbred as the coaching is at Michigan, even they wouldn't hire DeBord. ....Right?
Honestly, not to steal GBW's recruiting catchphrase, but if Miles is the type of guy that will "crawl through glass" to coach at Michigan, but then pull a U-turn and sign for more money at LSU and supposedly blame Martin for some leaks.... then we dodged a bullett. That's a straight up head case move.
I want him to come. I hope this is not true. But, I mean, the sources are piling up.
espnews has taken off the "source: les miles to coach at michigan" at the bottom of the screen
Herbie? WTF?
24 hours ago everybody was saying Brian Kelly was a better moe... now we are all panicking. Let things play out and hope for the best. Nothing is a guarantee in football, as in life.
Herbie's big mouth blew it.
Michigan just dodged a bullet. Damn.
Mother shitter. This is a fuck.
"Is another 500k or 1m a year that big a deal?". Earth to MGoBlog. Pay the man what he's worth. You get what you pay for. Stupid Wolverines.
No, this is bad. Very bad. As in who would ever want to talk to Michigan because there is no secrecy bad.
maybe herbie was just fucking with michigan, and he got a good laugh out of it
This is outrageous.
new headline on espn.com - "Miles to announce he's staying at LSU."
i need a stiff drink.
I concur with the Herbie as evil theory...
Everyone calm down. I love Les Miles, but if he wants to turn down Michigan for a half mil or a mil a year, then we don't really want him anyway. It's that simple.
And nice job, ESPN. Way to go, jackasses.
yea, you have to wonder if Herbie did this to help LSU.
this is a massive embarresment
im an LSU fan...and i dont know WTF is happening. baton rouge paper says he is gone, but new orleans says presser is the real deal.
lester be playing on my emotions and shit.
regardless, respect the Mchigan program and hope no lame faux anger betwixt our fanbases arises from the yo-yo-ing of les miles.
Geaux blue.
Just as I was warming up to the Miles as head caoch idea, the Tenuta as DC really clinched the deal...
9am press conference tomorrow to name Beboard new head coach!!!
sorry could not resist.
Yeah, Geaux Tigers.
And fuck ESPN. Asshats.
ooops Deboard
Anybody wonder if this whole thing was maybe leaked by the anti-Miles part of the AD? Or maybe even by LSU to try to force his hand? Maybe I'm just grabbing at straws, but I refuse to believe our athletic department and Bill Martin are this inept.
Yeah, I'm more bummed about the Tenuta story. I can live with Miles staying at LSU.
Guys-- Herby looks bad... straight stupid. He wouldn't do this to "screw" with Michigan fans, he's an effing journalist*
*well. A sports, ESPN-y, journalist,but still.
The initial story said "barring unforseen circumstances" Miles is coming to Michigan. It seems those "unforseen circumstances" did in fact occur. This happened with the Rich Rodriguez to Bama story last year.
Anyone think that Herbstreit being the OSU alum that he is did this on purpose?
Maybe the real situation was that Miles was mulling over a deal, telling UM to keep it quiet until he decided. Then a big news story breaks, his phone blows up and then he gets pissed and nixes the deal.
Or maybe i'm just talking out of my ass. Now things look to get much bleaker from here out.
No, he had to do this on good authority, who has now guaranteed he is out of the Fort Schembechler loop for the rest of his life, no matter what else he's done in his past.
i agree with Matt K. this completely opened the door for LSU to give him a counter-offer... FUCK!!!
Earmuffs: Cock. Balls.
Whole AD should be fired if he stays at LSU.
Money is not an issue at Michigan, so why they are being out dimed by LSU, is beyond me.
This is horrendous journalism. People claim they have these sources who are as credible as the kid selling weed down my street for free. There are some weird circumstances I hope that come out so we know what the hell happened. ESPN made itself look STUPID.
"Some things are more important than money, and Michigan is one of them."
-Bo Schembechler
Serenity now, Serenity now!!
Is there any chance that the press conference is to announce that LSU is firing him before their game because he accepted the Michigan job?
robbyp, you've got a kid selling weed down the street for free? Cool.
he's a former football player, not so much a "journalist" like you said.
and even if he wasn't INTENTIONALLY trying to screw michigan, he still could have hurt our cause by breaking the story early.
@Murray: hopefully.
They're being dimed because Miles isn't worth 4 million a year.
dont think Miles will be coming to any reunuins soon.
also, whats funny is if the have a non national championship year next season they will be talking about firing him.
For those who don't remember how the "interim" was removed from Carr's title, no one was really knocking down doors to become the head coach at Michigan.
Dear Les, if you don't come to Michigan, you aren't a Michigan Man.
I never thought I'd have the opportunity to use this quote regarding one of our own...
"Say what you want about Lloyd Carr, but he would NEVER do THIS."
@murray -
Very slim, but possible. If it was a 'sign it or you're fired' deal, he might be saying 'buh bye'
often the simplest explanations are the best......how about miles used michigan to get his way with lsu just as george perles did at least twice up at state??
During his press conference Q&A session, a reporter from Ann Arbor asked Miles about Schembechler's turning down of a $1 million job offer from Texas A&M in the early 1980s in order to stay at Michigan, even though he was making far less money in Ann Arbor.
Miles laughed, shrugged his shoulders, and said, "Bo was a chump. He could have gotten paid, baby! Let's be frank: all that UM-Go Blue horseshit won't buy me that vacation home in Florida I want. Or the vacations in Europe for my family. At the end of the day, it's about the money, the money, the money. It's about time you losers up there figured it out!"
@MillerTime-perfect
I don't want Michigan to pay its next coach 4 million dollars. Alabama looks ridiculous for doing that with Saban. If we can't get Miles for 2.5 mil, then move on I say. Just no Debord.
I feel so defeated right now....
Please lose LSU. Please lose Missouri. Please go to teh NC game Ohio State. Please go to the Rose Bowl Illinois.
LSU-Michigan Capital One Citrus Bowl. Fucking kill them.
haha. idiots.
I think this just goes to prove - until UM announces the new coach - ANYTHING could happen.
This could all be just posturintg due to the SEC Championship and LSU team dynamics going into the game (in which case he is still coming). Or he could totally have been counter-offered and taken it (in which case we would not want him. I really can't believe this-it is possible UM made him a BS insulting offer because they didn't really want him, and LSU overreacted not knowing UMs real intentions). There is no reason a counter-counter offer could not be made (that is if UM really wanted him and wasnt' just talking the talk).
Until UM officially announces a hire, it is obvious no one is really going to know anything in this whole deal.
The weather is much better in Baton Rouge. No big loss - Miles is a wacko. Maybe we can get Tedford. He did a lot more with less at Cal...
now on espn:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
id=3136391
@Marvin
Hey what's wrong with paying $667,000 per victory
-Larry Brown
You know the more I think about it, this all bullshit. I reserve judgment until I watch a press conference.
"just no debord"
in so much as i completely and wholeheartedly agree... what now? carty said schiano, tedford... gag. i don't think anyone we hire next will be the answer. we may as well just embrace the mediocrity because it's here to stay.
stupid espnnews still reporting that we're getting miles
Maybe the Michigan job isn't as great as we think. (see ND and bama). Or the coach search committee is really inept.
I really think everyone should calm down if it turns out Les Miles is staying at LSU. I loved him too, but honestly, if he's going to change his mind because of a few press leaks or $, then I don't see the need to mourn his loss.
Seriously, what big coaching hires happen with NO leaks about it? If Miles wasn't expecting this and got totally cheesed about it, then let him stay at LSU.
And at the risk of sounding arrogant, the prestige of being the Michigan Head Coach is worth some money, IMO. I mean really, once you're making a couple mil a year, what difference does it make if you're making $3 mil versus $3.5 mil? If half a mil or a mil means so much to Miles that he'll turn down his alma mater, then I have to question how badly he wanted to coach Michigan in the first place.
Calm down. If it's not Miles (and provided it's not Ferentz or DeBord), then it'll be somebody good not named Miles.
Tedford and Schiano are both better coaches than Miles. Why would we gag at that?
Michigan - LSU. God, if there is a God, please make this happen PLEASE PLEASE. I don't even care if they stomp us, we're taking out some anger on those fuckers.
Ok, so now can we get Brian Kelly? And hire Tenuta as the DC/associate Head Coach anyways? Seriously, I'd take a lap around the block if they ended up doing that.
I really believe that there was an agreement in place via intermediaries, but someone from within UM jumped the gun and leaked it to ESPN and they ran with it, which probably p!ssed off LM as he still had a game to play today and when LSU came running with a last second extension to try and keep him he took it....
Off-Season of Infinite Pain, here we come.
LSU would kick the hell out of us in a bowl game. We don't want that.
Tenuta unsure of next move
Tech defensive guru acknowledges Michigan rumor
By MIKE KNOBLER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 12/01/07
Georgia Tech might have lost its second head coach in less than a week with reports that interim coach Jon Tenuta will soon become defensive coordinator at Michigan.
"I don't know yet. I really don't," Tenuta said Saturday after his first practice in his interim role. "There's been rumors before about me going a lot of places."
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Saturday's report was more than a rumor, however. It came from ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit, who Tenuta describes as "a friend of mine."
Herbstreit reported Tenuta would be working at Michigan for current LSU coach Les Miles. Tenuta said he had not talked to Miles.
Tenuta has been defensive coordinator at Georgia Tech for six years, and his aggressive, blitzing defenses have ranked among the nation's best the last four seasons.
Tenuta became the interim coach on Monday when Tech fired Chan Gailey after six seasons.
i am just so pissed i don't even have words.
Fuck you, Les Miles. have a seat next to harbaugh on the "michigan man" (pfft) hall of shame.
fuck you for fucking this up, bill martin.
fuck you for the whole stupid ferentz thing, mary sue.
Even in a week where we have no games we manage to get beaten.
they updated the story from the espn frontpage link, but the embeddable video still have 'Miles to Michigan' and gameday reprorting it as Miles to Michigan w/ tenuta.
way to fuckitup, espn.
No Midwest recruiting ties... Schiano might be a good pick but I don't see him leaving.
And how do you figure that Tedford is a better coach than Miles? Did you watch Cal play this year?
Maybe the press conference will be like the announcing of your school at the US Army All-Star game where there at two hats on the table and and Miles will pick up one, and then the other and then go back to the original and put it on his head and yell "I'm staying at LSU!"
Looks like we have a new rival in fucking LSU.
ESPN NEWS IS STILL REPORTING THAT MILES IS GOING TO BE HEAD COACH AT MICHIGAN???? ESPN COULD NOT BE DROPPING THE BALL ANYMORE. FUCK
Well, if Tenuta is a friend of Herbstreit, I doubt Herbie fucked this all up...
As pissed as I am, I won't give up until I hear the official word.
Anyone else think that Herby (OSU guy) as the only one saying Miles to Michigan.... is suspect. trying to taint the job.
Tedford does a lot with so so talent. Miles does "meh" with the best talent of any school outside USC.
This whole Les Miles thing is hopefully a smokescreen to cover the real story of Bob Stoops to Michigan after his game this evening.
The front of espn says "Source: Miles to announce he's staying at LSU." Bur another thing says "Report: Les Miles headed to Michigan." Which is it?
woo hoo.. It's been fun guys.. I hope you can get Kelly, because everyone hates Ohio State.
Mediocrity is here to stay. Fuck you Lloyd and your "old guard." You fuckers cannot handle seeing a next coach completely overhaul the clusterfuck that is the program right now.
LSU fed the first bullshit to Desmond, who fed it to Herbie, and it pissed off Miles and the shit hit the fan.
Bertman got the best of Martin.
Sometimes you build up your alma mater to be the best job in the world and then when you would get it, you wonder if it can ever live up to your expectations.
Sometimes this happens. I don't think this was a total money play to hold LSU hostage as it was taking a long, hard look at the job and seeing some things that aren't as great as you thought they would be...
Just a guess.
The Pelini to Nebraska thing is legit., and I bet so is the Tenuta Miles combo. Tenuta now will probably be dc at LSU. In general, it's easier for a school to look stupid when they go after coaches who are already heading up big time programs. The whole search process is out there in public, and it makes the AD and the school look desperate.
If that story about Tenuta is true, this might not be the package deal we thought. We still may be able to get him with someone else as head coach. Frankly, that'd be fine with me - I think we'd all have to admit that while there are a few popular head coaching candidates, there's not anyone we'd want at DC more than Tenuta.
ESPN has updated their story to say that Miles is staying at LSU. Wow, nice job, Herbstreit. Ass.
ESPN reports "Black" at 10 AM, and then reports "White" at 1 PM. Really, how can you NOT mock ESPN after this debacle?
this is quite the rollercoaster ride.
What is the 2nd update? That ESPN article looks exactly the same?
I'm telling you, Miles will shock the world and the LSU nation by singing the Victors at the press conference today. Rip off his LSU coat and have a Michigan shirt on and then have security take him out flipping off the crowd.
http://umich.aspdeploy.com/cws/s...on&
locale=en_us
courtesy of EDSBS... good luck, everyone!
So is Tenuta not coming now? Or is he coming?
Please no Da-Bored.
DeBord to be introduced as new Michigan coach Monday at 9 a.m. ET, according to CBSSportsline.
murl
we might lose, but lloyd's going to have those bitches mad as fuck. we would hit them harder than they've ever been hit in their lives. FUCK that shit. Fucking Les.
What if it was Tenuta who leaked it to Herbstreit, his "good friend"?
oh, looks like they took it down, go figure. M-employ's head football coach job opening
Oh sweet mediocrity please take over. I want to lose to the inbreds at ohio state, please lets lose to them. oh it is all getting so numb now.
where is martin? I want his fucking head on a pike.
Florida,
You're joking right?!!!111!1
I seriously doubt that this is all attributable to any "leaks" today on ESPN; after all, writers all over the country have been saying for days if not weeks that they think Miles was coming here.
This is all about money. Either LSU made him an offer that he didn't want to refuse, even before he talked money with UM, or in informal discussions UM lowballed. My money is on the former.
So be it. By your actions, not your words, ye shall be known.
Sounds like Pelini to Nebraska after the game and Tenuta to be Les's DC at LSU.
Happy day for me. I don't know how you guys didn't pull Les away... someone seriously dropped a ball or wouldn't pony up the $$.
God, Carville is going to be absolutely insufferable after this one. What next? Go Blue.
Hey Brian--
Good news.. Now you can start taking potshots at ESPN... every time you cite to them, remember to mention how "dubious" ESPN can be re: credibility.
Within 10 minutes they had a link that said "Miles to go to Michigan" and "Miles to stay at LSU" that linked to the exact same "Miles to go to Michigan" story.
ESPN-- flightaware is more fucking credible than you dipshits.
If it turns out Miles is staying, then I speculate that LSU pulled a Bo on Miles: either you sign this contract extension, or an "LSU man will coach LSU."
But we'll wait and see what happens.
I still absolutely believe Miles is announcing he will be leaving LSU after today's game.
Tigerfan, have fun paying him $3 million/year.
3million??? more like 4.5
IMO...Debord and English were just courtesy interviews. Martin has known since early on in the season Lloyd was gone. Miles obviously was the #1 guy. You can blame Martin for not pursuing him more aggressively. Furthermore just because we weren't allowed to talk to Miles until after this game doesn't mean that Martin couldn't have talked to his agent. He SHOULD HAVE been in contact with Miles agent. Hell yes you can blame Martin for screwing this up. 100% no, but some of the blame should lay with him. Sorry.
doesn't really matter though bc honestly, that money doesn't come out of my pocket. if i get tenuta and miles, i'm happy with UM paying 3-4 million for them.
Millertime, I'm with ya man.. If the rumor about Tenuta is true, hell, who cares about Miles. Miles is a great coach, but his nutsy calls on 4th down basically could have cost LSU 3 or more games easily. Tenuta actually came out and stated there is some truth to him coming to Michigan... JACKPOT!!! Hopefully it isn't a crazied fiasco like this one though...
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh, shit.
The worst of it means no Tenuta.
Good job, Herbstriet...you suck even more as a journalist than you did as a QB. And I was actually starting to like you, too.
This is NOT about money unless it had to do with Tenuda not getting paid enough if he came to Michigan. This is about Carr wanting Ferentz over Miles IMO. and making him #1.
Tenuta is most likely gone as well.
Reports are that he is going to LSU to coach with Miles.
30 minutes to press conference.
30 minutes until presser....
Wait, Tenuta still says he's interested in coming to AA?
Well, I'll sure as hell take that.
This is why the Big Ten and other less feral conferences should avoid the SEC altogether.
It's going to be like 3mil.. We've got the money. We sell out eight games a year with 92,000. He was going to get 3.5 for a NC and still will next year.
You guys really ok with losing a coach because you can't scrape together cash for the best guy for the job?
Scenario that pisses everyone off:
- Miles signs contract extension with LSU for Saban+ money
- LSU loses to Tennessee
Yeah, enjoy paying the guy Saban money, Tigerfan. Jesus.
00goblue00: Nuh uh dudeski, Martin makes the big bucks and the final binary decision rests with him.
If Miles did slip out of our hands, this is absolutely Martin's fuckup.
I can tell you one thing though, the alumni _will_ be pissed.
Perhaps Miles is pulling the 'ol Saban "I'm not going to be the head coach at Alabama routine."
Please no Da-Bored, (almost) anyone but him.
All right, everyone. I'm out - going to beat my head against a wall for a few hours. Maybe I'll forget about all of this by the time I'm done.
Ok, let's just get one thing clear; No one has any idea what happened. Placing blame on any one person, including Les Miles, Bill Martin, Desmond, Herbstreit, anyone, is so far beyond premature that it's not even funny. I know that this is the internet at all, but it'd be great if people could avoid freaking out and placing blame until someone, somewhere, tells the actual story on this whole situation.
I have been watching this on repeat for the last 5 minutes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f...h?
v=f4J4s2Z0xMY
I like Les...but I'm ok with all of this
I've seen every LSU game this year...I'm glad he's staying at LSU.
Trust me Michigan, THIS IS A GOOD THING!
we have the money. we should've paid him the money.
Bertman picked Martin's pocket. The whole "wait until after SEC championship game" shit was a ploy to buy LSU enough time to put up an offer Miles can't refuse.
Don't believe for a second that Miles was made to sign the extension or he wouldn't be able to coach the SEC championship game. The game doesn't mean that much. But LSU did get the deal done before Michigan could formally present its offer.
Score one for Martin. DeBord will be named the new head coach on Monday.
Even if we pay him saban money, finishing in the top six is better than finishing with 6 wins (like Saban)
Christ. If I didn't have a company Christmas party I've committed to tonight I believe I would've started drinking about 30 minutes ago.
Go Rocky Top!
fuck les and the bo schembechler coaching family. I am sick of the inbreeding in the michigan program.
anon -
not a bad point, but my concern is that now any alternative candidate will have a LOT more leverage on BM than they did previously due to this fiasco
HAHAHA going back to that video, I love the Mustard-burger refer to Herbstreit's pass as a "balloon"...
Miles is a good coach at best!
Take a breath Michigan...This is a good thing!
Alex-
I agree it's his fault, I was trying to be nice and not lay 100% with him lol. Some of LSU's for playing dirty, but it most certainly is Martins as well. I think it's funny that some think otherwise.
@even more bored at work-He's not worth the money. Not even close. That's gotta count for something.
The really potentially amusng aspect of this is hw stupid Herbie & ESPN look. In the video (which is still on espn.com, Herbie mentions a sorce in Ann Arbor. What if someone was deliberately feeding him bad info?
FWIW....
Source: Miles will remain coach at LSU
ESPN.com news services
Updated: December 1, 2007, 1:07 PM ET
LSU coach Les Miles will meet with the media at the Georgia Dome before the SEC Championship Game to announce that he is staying at LSU, a source told ESPN.com.
LSU associate athletic director Herb Vincent said Saturday morning that ESPN reports that Miles had accepted the head coaching position at Michigan were "inaccurate." Miles agreed to a contract extension Saturday with LSU.
AAB - absolutely; it will be interesting to see what comes out when the real story is presented to us.
But you can't say --nobody-- deserves blame, either. Everyone you mentioned is partly responsible... and, hell... we're pissed. I woke up and saw that ESPN story and it was seriously like Christmas. Now I feel like I've been kicked in my (definitely not brass) balls. This sucks.
Well, I at least hope ESPN to make everything transparent as a sort of a mea culpa after this is all said and done.
Can someone link the "Tenuda to LSU with Miles" sources? I haven't seen that published anywhere and I think we're assuming that.
Damit! I was half way into my celebration keg and you bastards had to go and mess it up!
How did you not get Lester to be your coach? Thanks for nothing Michigan!
TOSU
you guys don't want a guy that's one 10 games in all of his 3 years. Will more than likely be the conference champs of the toughest conference in the country?
Man you guys turned quick... It's still not over... Wait for monday to know for sure.
fuck it i just started drinking
He's the best choice for Michigan. And he would've brought Tenuta. That would've been SICKNESS. That would've een worth the money
Now what?? I might be panicking but what the hell... I went from banging Jessica Alba to jerking off to playboy. FUCKING HELL.
@benjamminsam-I'm not saying no one is to blame. I'm saying no one has any idea who is actually to blame at this point in time. Just blindly lashing out at random players in this sordid fiasco isn't helpful.
Also, if there is no 1:45-2:30 press conference, I call bullshit on this WHOLE thing, starting at 10am.
Will the press conference be on TV? What channel in the Ann Arbor area?
Well if this shit is true let me be one of the first to say - GO VOLS, ROCKY TOP.
Maybe Kelly will have a shot now?
@Tigerfan
Define "ok." I mean, I wanted Miles, but I expected the Michigan Man connection to mean more to him than it looks like it did. I'm not willing to see Michigan contribute to the crazy arms race that seems to occur on a yearly basis in the SEC. I understand that Michigan would have to cough up some coin, but anything more than $2.5-3 million for Miles is too much, IMO. He looks good, but a coach has to have won a championship or two to get Saban money.
So I'm disappointed that Miles isn't coming (apparently), but at the same time we've barely gotten started looking at coaches.
I'll start to feel sad and bitter in a few more weeks if we still haven't signed a guy or if we sign a guy named Ferentz or DeBord.
espnnews will carry the conference
Ummmm....kittens?
\I love the Mustard-burger refer to Herbstreit's pass as a "balloon"...//
C'mon, Christian...if you can't recognize the Southern-fried honeydripping tones of Keeeeeeeeeith Jackson you've really got to step it up some.
Tigerfan-
I still would love to have him here and think he is an amazing coach. Knowing that there is a press conference coming soon, I doubt he is coming. He imo is still a good coach.
Damit! I was half way into my celebration keg and you bastards had to go and mess it up!
How did you not get Lester to be your coach? Thanks for nothing Michigan!
TOSU
Yes, I think Herbstreit sacrificed his journalistic integrity to keep a coach (who OSU fans see as a bumbling fool) away from Michigan.
Some of you guys are ridiculous.
I'm with AAB. There are one or more people who have been shady as hell, but right now we don't know who they are. And I doubt ESPN or Herbie will bother to enlighten us.
we wait for this press conference and we hope tenn beats lsu. we hope ohio state goes the nc game and we hope we play those fuckers in orlando.
I really miss Keith Jackson doing our games...
@AAB - yeah, I see what you're saying but bottom line is... AHAEHRGDKRGJLKRJSKJF FUCK!!!!! FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!
You know? haha
Jonny, I am an idiot. I just now realized that. I sincerely apologize...wow...time to booze.
Maybe Miles just played LSU the way RichRod played WVU last year. Which makes Michigan look more like Alabama than Notre Dame.
Which may be worse...as God is my witness I'm not sure.
Herbie is not a journalist, so please don't grace him with a professional sounding title. He's an entertainer, just like that clown Corso who sits next to him.
i AGREE- If this it true, lets hope Lloyd Carr of the South (Philip) can beat LSU
Guys, if we're not going to sack up and pay Miles the $3.5-4 million he's getting from LSU, there's going to be ZERO support from the alumni and boosters to pay that money to Kirk freaking Ferentz. IF we were going to shell out a king's ransom to get a guy, it was going to be for Miles. We're not going to hire DeBord. It's much more likely we'd hire English. Everybody needs to get a grip.
bill martin can go fuck himself
most important move of his career and he screwed up royally
It will be DeBord. And English is staying on the defensive coordinator. So it's like nothing's changed at all. DeBord will keep his duties as OC as well.
Presser Monday 9 a.m. at Schembechler Hall.
@ FloridaBlue:
Stop making shit up.
Miles may not be worth the money right off the bat, but lets be serious, it's not like Michigan didn't have it to offer...We have more money than we know what to do with.
Lets push for 200mil+ stadium renovations and get it but not a head coach that could potentially take us in a different direction.
Tenuta even says that he hasn't talked to Miles... But does acknowledge the fact that he might be going somewhere next season!
fuck martin, he should have been shit canned right after Tommy Amaker
I can't see us losing if he announces a contract extension. They'll play hard, and they're the better team.
Going to be a fun presser.
Florida, go hit the beach. Get the hell out of here.
Now Martin can ge back to hiring the coch in the country. I;m no sure if anyone really thought that a Les Miles.
2005 seems like candyland compared to 2007.
Year of Infinite Pain?
Right fucking now, and it's not close to ending yet.
Well, of course Tenuta's going somewhere next season- his head coach just got fired!
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Denis Lemieux
Losing Miles isn't THAT bad. I just liked him because he isn't Debord. Losing Tenuta pisses me off a lot more.
I like how some of you guys were so excited about Miles and Tenuta a couple years ago, BASED ON A PREMATURE REPORT...
...and now you're all suicidal that Miles isn't coming, BASED ON A PREMATURE REPORT.
And you wonder why I've been preaching against knee-jerk reactions all season.
heh, if they roll DeBord out as the next HC it won't be the Year of Infinite Pain.
It will be TWO DECADES OF FUCKING AGONY THAT WILL LIVE IN OUR ETERNAL SOULS.
Here's how it probably happened and it's honestly not nearly as nefarious as everyone wants to believe.
#1. UM search committee comes to agreement that Miles is the guy. Want to offer him job if he is interested. Talk to his agent.
#2. Agent says "He's interested." They talk details. Agent says "Barring unforeseen circumstances I think he's going to respond positively to this." Answer will come after Sat.
#3. Miles/Agent and LSU AD have agreement to give LSU opportunity to respond to any offer. pretty standard stuff. LSU says they'll put something together.
#4. "Source" to Herbstreit/ESPN has been saying for days that Miles is guy. Deal in place, etc. ESPN feels pressure to scoop. Double checks w. source who says it's money barring unforseen circ. ESPN goes to air with it.
#5. LSU says WTF? to agent. Agent says leak is UM side. No deal agreed to, but Miles interested. Do you want to counter? (this is all standard agentry 101-- Miles probably had no knowledge of details).
#6. LSU AD blows UM offer out of the water with massive offer (esp. since Pellini is gone and no heir apparent in cupboard). BUT there's a ticking clock on offer. It goes away after kickoff of SEC game.
#7. Agent relays offer to Miles. Leans on him to take the sure thing (and bigger offer) from LSU. Tells him UM a bad choice since Lloyd and old guard hate your guts and will sabotage you (sorta true, kinda, maybe). Miles consults with wife. She says are you nuts? Take the f-in' money! Miles starts to realize he has it pretty good where he is and UM is going to take a lot of work, esp. with factions not happy with his hiring.
#8. Miles, for once, opts for safe play. Stays at LSU for more money and more love and better food.
The Lloyd effect continues. Rather than being excited about something, I instead will always continue to simply wait and see how we can manage to F it up.
@cfaller96 :
Let's both run with the Les Miles is not the head coach story, maybe it will be posted up on ESPN.
Tigerfan, you've got a good coach there, IMO, and congrats on keeping him. But he's not the only fish in the sea, and Michigan will still be attractive job.
And FloridaBlue and others, please stop messing with my head about DeBord. No. Just no.
why god. why.
We are the laughing stock of the ncaa. The request to interview Miles would've never been made public unless UM knew he was going to take the job.
Somewhere between there and here, we got our pockets picked, my friends.
the person I think owes us an explanation is John Wangler who has basically been Deep Throat throughout this whole process--all but ensuring that Les was ours.
Money talks, loyalty walks--Bo would be disgusted at this.
My sources tell me floridablue is an idiot.
For pete's sake, it's not going to be DeBord. Guys who resign from CMU aren't getting more than a courtesy interview.
That said, if Martin drops acid and does hire him, that frees up my Saturdays.
Can we please stop with the "Les isn't worth the money" idiocy? Whether you like him as a coach or not, who cares how much he gets paid? Does it cut into the salary cap? Does the tuition go up? Please. So a few rich boosters put up more cash for the big name guy. This is a problem for the average fan hohw?
Will we hire Tenuta?
@ElBorracho: All true except for the "better" food part.
This fucking program is a disgrace.
I want Tenuta I want Tenuta.
At this point we look so ridiculous to the rest of the football world that we couldn't hire Judy Tenuta.
ElBorracho - scenario was fine until you got to the wife, who is a U-M alum also.
Don't blame Martin too much on this. He was played by Bertman but there is very little he could do. The only way Martin could've pulled it off is to contact Miles discreetly and hammer out a deal with the agent. But Michigan would never do anything that under-handed.
I'm not kidding about DeBord. He's already "assembled" the staff.
no doubt you guys are now the best opening in the country by a mile. You'll get a good coach... I'm just glad you're not getting my good coach.
Go back to the day Lloyd retired...Martin wants a coach with Head Coaching experience which tells me 1, sure as hell not going to be DeBord and 2, won't be Ron English either and 3, will not be Tenuta.
ESPNews about to talk to a Michigan insider about Miles and the conflicting stories...
Kirk H did this to keep Miles at LSU, or do whatever he could for that process to potentially play out. Fucking bullshit. It's all fucking bullshit. Fuck Herbie, Fuck LSU, Fuck Les Miles, Fuck Ohio State, fuck Bill Martin, fuck Lloyd Carr for all of his backstage drama bullshit. The last thing he wanted was for someone to come in and get this program back on track. Looks like he'll get his wish.
*years = hours
ElBorracho:
That sounds about right to me. Knowing that the knives would be waiting for him in A2 was probably the clincher.
15 minutes to presser
Magnus, damn, give us a break, would you? It's a pretty excitable time considering we haven't played a freakin' game in two weeks.
\"Trade me right fucking now!"
Denis Lemieux//
Good 2nd-half comeback, Christian...you're golden with the Slap Shot quote.
Wow.
To be completely honest, I believed from the moment that Lloyd Carr announced his retirement that Les Miles would be the next Michigan coach. Perhaps I am naive, believing all of Miles' Michigan Man mythology and combining that with one's natural pride with their alma mater. This seemed like the ideal job for Miles and the ideal coach for Michigan.
I certainly agree that there are better coaches out there, but for MICHIGAN this was the best combination of success, tradition, and player development. A Buckeyes fan and I agreed that Miles going to Michigan wasn't even a Saban maneuver. It was the natural jump that anyone would have forgiven him for.
Except staying at LSU for the money? Yeah, you're reaching that level of hell where Alabama's coach resides permanently.
We'll know the truth in about 20 minutes, and I am pretty sure that every Ann Arbor fanboy's worst fears will be realized. You're not getting Tenuta. You're not getting Miles. You're the storied program with lots of tradition but egg on your face.
But! At least you're not Notre Dame, right? Not yet!
OK then, FloridaBlue, WHO told you this?
Same dude who told Herbie that Miles to M was a done deal?
Please, stop. You're going to send people to the hospital for binge drinking if you keep this up.
I'm off - time for a few beers...
It's been grand fellas. Go Blue.
aah good!! at least the flight tracking fun can resume :)
Food in BR is by far better than anything Michigan has to offer (well, I haven't been to AA, but the food in other parts of the state is bleh... spices spices spices.)
I wouldn't be too shooked if the press conferece was all about Pelini to neb.
Orion:
Agreed.
Does anyone in or associated with my former home state understand that it's not 1960-FUCKING-7 anymore?
Jesus H. Fuck.
Angelique on ESPNNEWS
ESPNNEWS reports the Les is staying @ LSU for a "lucrative" extension"
Angelique: Agreement in place (not signed, which is also what Freep is reporting)
wow. we're all drinking right? i'm about to join in.
like lawrence says -
fuckin A man.
@mk
I know Mrs. Miles is a Wolverine but I don't know many wives that place loyalty to their alma mater over financial security for the rest of their lives.
Saw this on rivals board:
Michigan beginning negotiations with new coach
I’m an ex student who once worked in the athletic department. A reliable source from the department told me a few minutes ago that preliminary negotiations have started with Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. He said that Ferentz was target number 1 and Miles was target number 2, both of which received offers and turned them down. Schiano is choice three, and seems likely to accept the job and retain both coordinators.
THIS ANGELIQUE???!??!?!
A Detnews reporter!!?!?!
Hahahahahahahah
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs...PDATE/
712010413
UM's revised coaching list released:
1. George O'Leary
2. John L. Smith
3. Tyrone Willingham
4. Wayne Fontes
5. My hairy ass
Your vote?
WTF???
I just checked in for the first time and I see THIS? Are you kidding me? How could this happen?
Yes, that Angelique, asshole.
real reliable source that Angelique
@darko
I care about the money. It's not the specific amount per se, it's that I don't want my alma mater contributing to the already sick salaries that coaches get, versus whole academic departments. Also, I don't like the idea of an alum coach playing hard to get with his alma mater because of a relatively small amount of money.
I'm not naive, and I understand the whole "athletics is its own business" yada yada, and I knew that we would have to pay more money to Les (or anyone) than we were paying Lloyd.
But please- Michigan is a good job, and it'll pay good money. If Michigan suddenly isn't so attractive because of a half mil or a mil (Michigan was probably going to pay you $2.5 mil), then fuck you.
Seriously, if that little bit of money means so much, then goodbye and we'll go find somebody that wants the job more than you.
I'm sure half the comments in here are reactionary, but I can't help but wonder why the hell everyone's hating on Martin. The guy hires the top X and O's basketball coach in the country, and eight months later he's a douchebag?
Listen, Martin isn't the leak, and he's also not a dictator with complete control...what the individuals do on the search committee can't be monitored 24-7 (unless we have a really really life-like Robo-AD). Chalk this one up to the jackass on the search committee that violated the de facto gag order and chatted with Herbie.
Also, for everyone saying that the $500k a year isn't a big deal someone, oh yes it is, even to someone making $3 million/year.
I didn't think she would be the "Michigan Insider" when the guy said it before break lol.
What the hell is wrong with this.... I'm watching ESPN news instead of football, knowing ESPN is the one that bumble f$^#$d this story from the get go.
i don't think this is over yet. will wait to panic until next week even if les announces he signed an extension. he wouldn't be the first to sign an extension and then leave anyways.
This whole thing has Mary Sue Coleman and Bill Martin's fingerprints alllllll over it!
I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was a bullshit ruse to get everyone hot and bothered. . . simply pacify the fans that they were going after a quality coach only to pull the rug out from under us!
I call bullshit!
Just found out that my hairy ass was offered, and accepted, the job.
STOMACH PUNCH. This sucks beyond belief.
@Alex-Angelique is as tied into the Michigan program as any journalist out there. Not sure why you think she lacks credibility. She's damn solid.
ESPN interviews Detnews reporter as an "inside source".
This just keeps getting better and better.
ESPNews seems to be reporting that this was our choice not Miles's - he wanted to come here - but he didn't know whether we would offer him a job, so he signed the extension with LSU rather than take the risk.
Lloyd sabotaged the deal to prop DeBord up. If DeBord is not announced the new HC on Monday, he'll remain OC, under probably Schiano. But there is a presser Monday at 9 and it's gonna be DeBord -- unless it's Schiano.
@ElBorracho
Yeah because there is so much difference in fincial security between $4mil a year and $2.5 mil a year.
Maybe ESPN will claim that they scooped the story on Miles staying.
Until anything official is announced, I refuse to get worked up.
RELAX Michigan
Les is a good coach when he has GREAT talent. Face it, we have much better talent at LSU then you ever will.
Les would have floped at Michigan.
Go out and get a coach who can do more with Les :-) Because you need it with that talent pool.
Dam Osu fans are really sad...We wanted Leslie to become your next coach so bad..uggghhhh. Now you'll do something dumb and like find a coach who can manage a game/talent and win the games he supposed to win.
@AAB:
Yeah and if Lloyd or the AD was maintaining just as much draconian secrecy now as they did during the season, _no_ reporter is getting any inside info/scoop.
Jim Harbaugh-
Thank you. I was going to say the same thing. You are still in the same socio economic class, you can still live the same comfortable lifestyle you were living before.
Obviously I can't keep up with the 100s of posts in this thread, but can we please avoid speculation that this is all Carr's fault?
LSU's "talent" is overrated. Hester would be 4th string at UM.
Johnny Wangler...you've got some s'plaining to do...
How can we blame our people? Fuck Les Miles for not wanting to come here under any circumstances. Some fucking alum.
Not gonna lie, I wasn't that excited about Miles this week, but when I heard the report this morning about Miles and Tenuta coming here, I got really excited about all the possibilities!!! Now, I am really dissapointed and feel a big let down. Hopefully, those 2 still come here, but I guess we have to wait and see.
I've watched some of Central Florida and George O'Leary's done a decent enough job with the pickings he's got (they're on ESPN right now) and he wouldn't be the worst choice. Far better than anyone still on Lloyd's staff, no one would deny that.
Damn, if nothing else he'd at least bring a little bit more of a hate-on to the ND games.
to all the OSU fans lurking about
41-14
Enjoy it agian in whatever bowl game you play in this year too... over rated.
Basically if Miles is walking away from the job, it's hard to want him to come here. He said it was his dream job... But he's staying at LSU? If I had an opportunity at my dream job no increase in salary could make me change my mind. He chose not to coach Michigan, therefore, WE DONT WANT HIM HERE. Plain and simple. Everyone stop complaining... We'll get a coach that wants to be here and is just as good.
***Let's just hope it's not Mike Gay-board.. hahahahaha
FloridaBlue:
STFU. You're messing with me too much. Please stop. I'm begging you.
Please. No more DeBord talk. I can't take it.
hahahhahahah thank you Tigerfan.
angelique just said schiano is now no. 1
enjoy guys... i'm out.
I still want to see this mythical press conference.
O'LEARY?!?!?!?!?!?
LOLLERSKATES!!!!!
ROFLCOPTER!!!!
As much as we want to blame Herbie for this, I blame whoever his source is inside the Michigan AD. It is Herbie's job to report all news he gets, and when someone in the AD tells you it is a done deal then you have to report it. Whoever this person is just lost us a coach.
The only thing I can think of (so this isn't the end of the world) is that Miles is just doing this to get his team motivated and then the talks will resume tomorrow. I hope that's the case.
It's also possible that we got dirty worked by LSU's AD. "You can talk to Les, but after the SECCG." In the meantime he's been negotiating with him all week. Now we're fucked, no Miles, no Tenuta, and I feel like I just got raped.
Where do we go now?
Miles is a coach of negotiable affection.
If Schiano really is the #1 target now than I'm thrilled all of this happened. Even if it means no Tenuta.
O'leary is not now, nor will ever be a candidate for Michigan head coach.
nice jake
please just be an agreement and not a signature. What channel is the presser on?
so what happened with Brian Kelly? Shouldn't he be ahead of Schiano?
I have to say for being so tight-lipped on a lot of things, for it to leak that Michigan wanted to interview Les to me says it was basically an offer on the table.
For him to take a sure bet over something that wasn't so, I dunno if I believe that the Michigan thing was not at least offered. Money obviously talked if this turns out to be true.
Now the press could just be to say that he is not going to comment on anything until after the game. Who knows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L...h?v=L-
LrjZL7bHs
Walter = LSU AD Herb Vincent
Corvette = Michigan
Larry Sellers = Bill Martin
Surprised car owner = you and me... who just bought that fucking car this morning.
@floridablue
you are right but with one correction - "Its gonna be Debord - unless its Schiano (or someone else)."
Floridablue kills me. Sooooo certain about all things Debord.
Tigerfan, if the presser were about Pelini to Nebraska, wouldn't that be Nebraska calling the presser, and not LSU?
This would seem to be about Miles, IMO.
Someone who has ESPNnews and is a fast typer needs to give us all the info from the presser
Anyone think that Miles could come and absolutely BLAST the media for reporting this and that he will _still_ confirm or deny nothing and all this talk is bullshit?
Schiano + Tenuta = Wet Dreams Until September.
presser on espnnews
she sad that kelly not even in top five most discussed names at this point
stop with the DEBORD crap
stop with the DEBORD crap
stop with the DEBORD crap
stop with the DEBORD crap
stop with the DEBORD crap
He's not going to be the H.C. (period)
stop with the DEBORD crap
NO ONE EVER SAY HIS NAME AGAIN!!!!!
STOP IT AND SHUT UP!!
stop with the DEBORD crap
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN...
OK
Now lets move on to the new coach!
...
@MillerTime-seriously. Any and all criticism of Martin would have to immediately stop if he somehow got Schiano and Tenuta. It's not going to happen, but maaaan, that'd be awesome.
how could espnnews be talking about anything else right now?????
idiots
4 minutes to press conference!!!
Army-Navy's at the half, is the presser going to be on CBS?
I'm sorry if I offended anyone with the DeBord bullshit. But I'm mad as hell and some levity was needed.
Bottom line: Michigan never got to make an offer because Bertman pre-empted it. And Miles had second thoughts about the hostile Lloyd-faction. Those two facts are uncontroverted.
I believe Schiano calls his own defense at Rutgers; thus, I doubt you would see him and Tenuta together.
Fast typer, have ESPNews, but no one likes to listen to me so.
Bottom line....funk Les Miles. I truly believed we dodged a bullet. Passionate guy, but NOT a good game-day coach. Passion and fire wont outcoach Mr Sweater Vest...lets be honest.
Here is a strong vote to try and pull Tedford out to Big Blue land. I truly feel he can gameplan and coach Tressel better than Les ever could. It is all about W's...not holding onto legacy and "tradition"
All righty then....
Its time to get behind the real coach, the real DC. B.Kelley and Chuck Martin.
I highly doubt schiano will leave rutgers. Miami offered him a good deal last year, and Miami is to Schiano as Michigan is to Les Miles. It is where his roots are. If he didn't leave rutgers for Miami, he won't leave rutgers for Michigan. He got a brand new contract at rutgers last year, bought a new home, and is starting a family there. He won't be our coach.
wwl.com is the way to hear the press conference.
*IF* this is true, I no longer WANT Les Miles to coach at Michigan. If this is true, I now HATE Les Miles with a furious passion.
This sucks.
I have ESPNnews and the "news" they're discussing right now is the Patriots' game last week, nice.
FYI:
no way the Schiano rumor is true. he is waiting for JoePa to retire in the next 1-3 yrs and will be the next coach at Penn State.
I swear this is worse than notre dame. At least they got the alum they wanted (although it is yet to be determined if he can make them good again). I am hoping for brian kelly. We need a HC with experience.
I don't see why someone has to be blamed in this. Bill Martin tried to get Miles with whatever money he could offer, and Miles wasn't interested in the Michigan job so much that he would give up his huge salary offer. Whats the big deal?
ATLBLUE-
HOw do i watch ESPNnews?? I don't even know all of the channels yet.
I can believe that we got worked by the LSU AD, but I'm still having trouble with the premature leak by ESPN that they said came from "...a source close to the situation in Ann Arbor..." and who placed the leak....was it from LSU to someone on the UM side, or was someone on the UM side leaking it?
The rumor about schiano is that he's wating for JoePa to hang it up. Look, the Miami job isn't as good as you think - the facilities stink and there's no on campus stadium.
LSU's talent is overrated, and if you notice it gets a bit worse every year removed from Satan.. er, Saban (my, what difference one letter makes).
Coaching your alma mater, who just so happens to be one of football's most prestigious programs with a great recruiting area, should never be a question of money. Ever.
One minute and ESPNnews is still discussing the NFL with a Pats D-tackle...
well...remember that Tressel was like OSU's 3rd choice, behind Mike Bellotti and Glen Mason, no? This may be a blessing in disguise.
Turn on CBS IN two minutes
TURN ON CBS
TURN ON CBS
mk:
You could make the same argument about M's facilities versus LSU's.
LSUSports has pages and pages and photo after photo of their facilities which are truly world class.
Has Michigan developed best in country football facilities? Or are we still expecting the "Crisler's hook and Yost's chair" line to sell here in 2007?
LSU's talent is emphatically not overrated. They're a lock for having at least 3 1st round draft picks this year, a year after having 4 1st rounders. That team is stacked more than anyone in the country this year, and it's not especially close.
OK, what the fuck... take us to the PRESSER ESPNnews
Angelique basically confirmed that there was never any contact between Michigan and Miles, not even through the back channels. That means Miles was forced to take the LSU offer because the Michigan thing was not a sure-fire bet.
This whole thing sucks. We got played hard by LSU. I don't really blame Martin or anybody, we tried to do things the right way. Nice guys finish last, you know?
Schiano's not a bad back-up plan. I kind of hate their offense, though.
Don't worry about the leak to Herbie, that had nothing to do with nothing. Apparently Les was using UM was leverage and he succeeded in doing that. Wrangler just did his bidding.
Maybe the Miami job isn't that good, but I still don't think Schiano is going anywhere. He loves rutgers more than anything, and is more devoted to building that program up then leaving to go somewhere else. He isn't going to michigan or penn state.
LOL ESPNNews ticker just said 'lsu miles staying at school' but there was no indication if that was presser info or rumor info.
I was at LSU this year...and there facilities are TOP NOTCH and the living conditions are the best for the football players
MILES REPORT COMING ON CBS NOW!!
I don't understand the "embarrassment" and "laughingstock" feelings that some have. LSU offered a boatload of cash to a Michigan alum who (apparently) wasn't sooooooo totally interested in the Michigan job.
Big deal (if true), so let's move on to a good candidate that DOES want the job. Somebody not named Ferentz or DeBord.
Matt K
so why would Herbstreit report Miles accepted the job?
espnnews going to commercial???
ESPNews going to commercial? Come on. Dropping the ball like Tony Romo.
"I don't understand the "embarrassment" and "laughingstock" feelings that some have. LSU offered a boatload of cash to a Michigan alum who (apparently) wasn't sooooooo totally interested in the Michigan job.
Big deal (if true), so let's move on to a good candidate that DOES want the job. Somebody not named Ferentz or DeBord.
"
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CBS
CBS
CBS
Here we go on CBS...
Jeremy:
I brought up the facilities point because maybe Les heard informally that the facilities at Michigan haven't changed too much since his days on campus.
Along with the Lloyd faction's presence, maybe the idea of needing to build up M's facilities could have affected his decision.
"angelique just said schiano is now no. 1"
It should be obvious by now that neither Angelique or Jim Carty (who has all but anointed Miles as the next coach over the last couple of weeks) or Herbie or your inside source on the LSU cheerleading squad knows the slightest fucking thing about the situation other than Bill Martin, and he ain't sayin'.
I don't believe Schiano, either. Or Kelly. And anybody below that level will look like a reach to the insiders at UM. I don't have a good feeling about this...
theyre talkin bout it on cbs now, saying presser is 'any minute now'
whos the black dude that just made an ass of him self
Apparently the presser is definitively to announce that he is staying at LSU.
Damnit.
FUCK YOU ESPN
LOL @ Jeremy----Flahscards FTW
even more bored,
I think the whole thing was leaked by LSU. I think they got down and dirty and totally played us. It's just my personal opinion that LSU leaked this thing. NOTHING ever leaks out of Michigan.
As much as this could sting Michigan, ESPN and especially Herbstreit look a lot worse. Whatever. If 3 million plus were what it took to keep a guy who has not won the National Title, or even the SEC or the Big 12 championship games glad to see were not paying it. The man will have so much pressure on him next year to perform up to his new contract--should be just as exciting as Saban at 'bama this year!
I'm not too worried about it though. Put his crendentials against other candidates and we should not be that upset. Plus, I don't see the benefit in making a quick hire. Do a more detailed search, and why not put Lane Kiffin's name in the mix. See what he's done at Oakland! Maybe its just wishful thinking on my part.
I don't see how the facilities would make or break this deal.
1) personal wishes
2) cash
Hahaha...I spelled flashcards wrong
Fuck CBS
Are you guys watching CBS...
They just called Bill Martin the bigest A-hole in the world and that his timing screwed this whole thing up!!!
CBS just kicked our ass
the cbs guy just said miles to Michigan would be the dumbest thing of all time. No there's no bias there...
AAB: Like I said, it's a matter of diminishing returns on talent. You're telling me that Matt Flynn is a fantastic talent? Yeah, no.
What the HELL did I just watch on CBS!?!?
ESPNews is not showing any presser (yet?)
even more bored: espnews is 121 on comcast digital
Now Michigan is made out to be the bad guy. Nice....... (CBS).........
Lets get onto B. Kelley and Chuck Martin as the D. coordinator already.
That stupid black guy just blamed Michigan for LSU losing to Arkansas.
I am truly convinced that CBS knows nothing.
Wow, you guys are getting killed on CBS.
Is Schiano a serious option for Michigan? We've been keeping our eye on him for a few years now -- in fact, I was told a while ago that Penn State called Schiano before the 2006 season and he hung up on them. I don't think he's that great. He's done well at Rutgers, but can anyone say that Rutgers is definitively better than South Florida or UConn right now?
Ryan.
He said that calling a press conference 2 hours before the SECCG to announce Miles to Michgan would be the dumbest thing of all time. You should work for ESPN.
You may have spelled it wrong- but it's still funny
CBS reported that the presser will start when Les Miles comes off the bus at the Georgia Dome. The presser hasn't started yet because the LSU team bus hasn't reached the stadium yet.
I still think that Brian Kelly comments on this blog under the name "Anonymous"
fuck CBS, they bend over and take it from the SEC east and suck it from the SEC west
THIS IS ON BILL MARTIN (Period)
Also, what's this nonsense about 'Michigan not being a sure thing.'
What world is Les Miles living in? Everyone in the country was sure that Michigan would try to get Miles. That's just an excuse.
Sure, I'll be interesting in reading ESPN's ombudsman column if they deal with this flip-flop.
At this point, who knows? Carr never seemed fond of Miles, and Carr still works in the department.
If anyone wants to take me up on this bet, email me by "homepage".
Miles comes out and blasts the media. No contract extension, nothing. Just tells the media to stick it up their ass for doing what they did.
enron bowl
Dead on analysis!
I've said it before, CBS's agenda is to make nonSEC teams look bad. "Michigan devalued Les Miles" WTF. That is the worst analysis in the history of analysis: TV, blog, or print.
Miles, for better or worse, is going to be the top paid coach in history because we pursued him. I can't believe the number of ways that this is wrong.
Who can the Big Ten align with which will pimp our product.
@ DP
Try to refrain from saying stuff like "that stupid black guy."
Don't be so damn ignorant.
OK, Fuck CBS in addition to ESPN.
As if it were Michigan that were putting all this pressure on Miles that forced him into this awkward position. No no, the media (i.e. CBS and ESPN) had nothing to do with the pressure, even though Michigan didn't say word one about this.
All of you people in the media- seriously, go fuck yourselves and leave us be.
Why's ESPN reporting something as fact when we don't know if it is?
@JimHarbaugh
I don't care what tax bracket you're in, if someone offers you almost double your salary it is hard to say no to. The overall impact may not be the same between jumping from 50K to 100K, but it's still mentally and emotionally significant. Throw in the uncertainty of the coaching profession and it's easy to see a wife and mother thinking this is a once in a lifetime offer we have to take.
FUCK CBS. Last year, their broadcasters basically spent the entire SEC championship game CAMPAIGNING FOR FLORIDA. They have no fucking credibility. They are to SEC what NBC is to Notre Dame -- a mouthpiece.
He didn't say anything! No extension was announced!!
holy crap...he just coach speaked...it could still go either way...
Uh, first thing out of his mouth? It wasn't that he'll be LSU coach next year. No talk about extensions. HAHAHAHAHAA.
he did not deny it!
Here is ESPNews... "I will be the head coach at LSU" - "it's unfortunate that I had to address my team with this information."
Did not say anything about an extension.
well that wasnt much.
@ old fan
as soon as the BCS is gone and a playoff happens, asshats like CBS will be out of business.
now, how can we get a playoff?
old fan:
You are 110% correct about CBS' agenda Re: the SEC.
Their attitude also shows on their CFB website. It generally sucks, but the Big 10 team pages are all left in a state of benign neglect. There is also little to no Big 10 news on their frontpage.
he didn't mention the extention!!!!
But elborracho, did Miles seriously think he wasn't going to be entitled to a raise if he did great stuff at M? If he really thinks that little of us, then I don't want him anyway.
That was it? He just came out and killed speculation?
TOLD YOU TOLD YOU TOLD YOU
HE HASN'T KILLED ANY SPECULATION! HE'S STILL THE GUY IMO!
What the HELL is going on? I can't spend this entire day hyperventilating and hammering F5 on a comment thread... can I?
I am not a "Les for Michigan" fan..but hell..if I was him I would jump like crazy is LSU made an offer that was outta this world.
1) He is not a good game-day coach
2) Why come to UM if he knows he has an icy relationship with Carr (who will still have a presence around UM football)
3) If I could lock up a 30mil contract or whatever....you GOTS to take it
4) LSU owns Louisiana and has a stranglehold on the talent-rich recruiting
5) The pressure at UM would actually be greater than at LSU
I shed no tears over this...however am disappointed with the media and the circus this became.
I don't think there was an extension, I think he just killed the speculation until the season's over. Wow, how lame.
WHAT DID HE SAY?
Nice of CBS to promise coverage and then not do shit when it happened.
He was Schembechler-like in that presser, though, I have to admit. "Thank you very much. Have a GREAT day." Gotta love the charisma.
ESPN says they have it after the current break
Miles has verbally agreed to the extension but HAS NOT SIGNED IT!
Last spring at Texas A&M, Billy Gillispie agreed to an extension, but didn't sign it for a week, all while he worked out a deal to be the head coach at Kentucky. It's possible that Les Miles is pulling a similar dick-move...
HE DIDN'T SAY SHIT! THE DOOR IS STILL WIDE OPEN. HE SAID I'LL TALK TO YOU AFTER THE GAME.
The "Les" presser didn't clear anything up. He confirmed he is the coach now, but ask him again after the game.
I TOTALLY CALLED THIS.
YES.
Brian, I'm sure this day will break MGoBlog's all-time record for number of posts in one day. I hope you're somehow getting a percentage of each post and visit.
Whoops, should have "Presser" not Les.
@Elborracho
If I was offered my dream job for 2.5 million I would take it over my current job even if it paid more.
Maybe Michigan wasn't his dream job, and this was all a ploy to get more money from LSU.
He verbally maybe agreed to it to get Bertman off his back and have the offer on the table. Now he can talk to Martin and see what happens. It's win-win for him. He didn't say "I am not going to Michigan" just as he never did.
This ain't over yet.
He just came right out and all he did was dismiss the LSU thing. I can't believe it made EVERYONE in the MSM look like idiots.
I'm telling you, Miles to Michigan is not a dick move. Not even for all the money in the world. He's an alum and former Bo assistant.
Even if he gives a rah-rah speech now about being LSU coach and wins the SEC Championship, you really think anyone in Baton Rouge will loathe him if he left for Michigan? I don't.
And what if he loses the championship game? Haha.
Even the CBS assclown admitted it was his "immediate future", this was such a waste of good energy!
My fuckin' brain is about to explode!!! Am I alone in this???
IF HE WAS NOT COMING TO MICHIGAN, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SO.
case closed, he's coming to Michigan after his season is over. Timing is anyone's guess though.
@Magnus
"That stupid black guy" is stupid not b/c he is black, but b/c he pulled out fucking flashcards on national TV to demontrate the difference between UM's 'alleged' offer and LSU's 'alleged' extension offer.
That, my friend, is ignorant.
Next up on CBS:
Dumb black guy AND dumb white guy team up to bring you----Hooked On Phonics for college football--flashcards, say with me, Ell-Ess-You, Yoo-Ni-Vers-itee-Ov-Mish-ih-gan....
Espn are in agreement with CBS. He's gone.
Ok, I just saw the entire (lol) press conference, and whoever called that Les was going to rip the media- 1000+ cocktails to you, good sir.
ESPN seems to be getting dumber by the minute. After that press conference in which he (and LSU AD Bertman) essentially said nothing except "it's a shame I have to address the team with this speculation," ESPN is now running the "Miles to remain head coach at LSU."
WTF? He said no such thing. These guys are idiots, wow. It's clear to me that Les has been offered an extension, hasn't signed it, hasn't decided, and WON'T decide until after the SECCG. Anyone who says otherwise (e.g. CBS, ESPN twice!) is full of shit.
Wow. I used to think that it was just the political media that were stupid shits, but these guys are idiots.
@ Magnus,
There were three guys talking on CBS. I had to differentiate between them so I said "black guy" and he was saying "stupid" things so I said "stupid black guy" to differentiate. Don't overreact and call me ignorant you stupid jerkoff.
cfaller96: Thank you sir, I did infact call that one.
@ dirty6
I didn't say the guy was dumb either way.
I said, "Don't say 'dumb black guy.'"
If there's anywhere in the world you can get away with saying stuff like, "that dumb black guy," let Michael Richards know.
In the rest of the world, that sounds pretty damn racist.
Michigansportscenter has a link up to the LSU press conference out out Baton Rouge
It takes 20 seconds to sign up and I'm listening live now
alex, I raise it to 10,000 cocktails. I tip my hat to you.
THEY WILL HAVE EVER SECOND OF IT LIVE
Guys: there's a strong chance that they'll announce the contract extension after the game. The LSU AD is being quoted all over the media - QUOTED! - that the deal has been agreed-to but has not been signed.
That sick feeling of uncertainty we've all got in the pit of our stomachs? Get used to it.
UGH.
@cfaller96
not miles himself i was talking about, but rather speculating on his wife's influence on decision to take LSU's killer offer. My point was that no matter how much you already have a chance to double your money-- guaranteed, not "if things go well in the future"-- doesn't come along much if ever. My personal feeling is a wife/mother is more pragmatic and less inclined to care about school loyalty.
@ DP
Don't say "dumb black guy" and then you won't be ignorant. It's pretty simple, really.
HE SAID espn had misinformation
He will not talk to anyone else
he said nothing
he said nothing
all he said was it's missinformation
he said talk to me only and ask me after the game
thats it
thats it
The bigger question: with this uncertainty sitting there right now - who do I root for in the SEC Championship game?
I cant believe ESPN news still running with Les to stay at LSU 100% after that presser, yes I will admit he probably stays, but he was an awful long way away from actually saying I aint going to UM...he left it wide open...
Go Tennessee.
Then we can have the UM-LSU steel cage match at the Capital One Bowl.
he just blasted ESPN and said nothing about Michigan
LSU is reporting that he will stay at Michigan
so are the comentators
My God, can ESPN come out looking worse?
They've now gotten it wrong three(!) times in 5 hours. If you relied on ESPN:
- 10 AM Les Miles going to Michigan
- 12 PM Les Miles signing extension with LSU
- 2 PM Les Miles remaining at LSU
Wow, nice job, idiots. I think it would be super sweet if Les Miles came to Michigan after all of this, because ESPN is looking like such a bunch of jackasses.
@ Magnus
Is "dumb white guy" OK with you? Or is that being ignorant?
He's not going to sign the offer right after the game, something else will happen. We won't know for sure until next week.
ESPN will only have it wrong once in their minds however if he does stay
My next prediction:
This LSU contract extension is total bullshit.
I don't care what their AD is spouting, you don't make deals this big and with this much money, this quickly. This takes at least two or three days of co-habitating with agents and lawyers.
@JmHarbaugh
Are you married? If so, ask your wife how she'd feel about you walking away from double the money to move the family someplace far away where more than a few people of influence hate your guts and will probably undermine your tenure at every opportunity.
I caution everyone from assuming that the Michigan job is still there for Miles based on this dipshit little presser. You're just setting yourselves up for another emotional crushing. Les-ticles is just given all of you blue-balls with all of his teasing.
Face it: he's the hot girl who your dipshit friends convinced you that you had a real chance for. She never actually said one thing that would lead a rational person to think you had a chance with her, but your buds kept egging you on, and she never said she wasn't interested in you.
So you're at the party you know she'll be at, wearing your new shoes and you've got your lines all worked out, what you're gonna say, and you've just about screwed up the courage to ask her out when she leaves with that big stud with the BMW, and as they go out you can see him squeezing her ass and she's giggling as she looks back at you.
cfaller96:
You a '96 grad? LSA/Engin/BBA/???
I don't care what LSU AD Bertmann is saying, it's clear after that press conference that Les Miles hasn't thought about an extension or a Michigan offer, and won't think about it until after the SECCG.
I'm sure Bertmann's offered an extension, and I'm sure Michigan has passed an informal offer along to Miles' agent. And it doesn't matter.
He may sign an extension or he may go to Michigan. But the bottom line from that presser is that he hasn't thought about it, and he hasn't decided anything. Anything else is bullshit.
If he wants to say "dumb black guy" let him - no one would raise a stink if he said "dumb white guy."
Just my take, but I'm a free speech advocate and "For your information, the Supreme Court has roundly rejected prior restraint."
alex,
Plus I don't think Les will not talk to us. He's going to just because it's us, even if he has no intention of coming.
@alex
'96 grad, LSA. Poli Sci major, marketing minor. Capricorn. Married male. Long walks on the beach, cuddling, jazz music, etc.
Sec is the best conference, Big ten, in particular Michigan suck, and they are slow. Gary Danielson rules, why would anyone leave the fast SEC for slow Michigan?
Don,
Your idiocy precedes you.
FWIW, I tooke the "dumb black guy" comment as way to differentiate the guy from the other dumb guys on the set.
Look, in a perfect world, we could say "dumb white guy" or "dumb black guy" and it wouldn't mean anything.
Also, in a perfect world, we could say "fuck" and "ass" and "shit" wherever we wanted because people would realize that they're just words and they don't mean anything.
In 2007, if you say "dumb black guy," it's racially charged.
ABC just broke from ACC game to announce "Miles had a press conference and announced he is staying at LSU" - direct quote.
Beer - I need Beer!
@ElBorracho: By all indications, Mrs. Miles has every bit of a connection to Michigan. But you know? I don't want to guess the emotional makeup of a woman. It's not really possible.
@Don: The assumption here is that Les Miles isn't a golddigging materialist. Plus, technically Miles has said a lot of things that would make anyone assume he would coach at Michigan if the opportunity came around. No, he'll never say 'YEAH I WANT TO COACH AT MICHIGAN' while still being employed somewhere. I really don't blame anyone for thinking he would take the job.
elborracho, the wife thing is a good point, but the wife isn't going to be only concerned with money. She's a Michigan grad too, and she might like the idea of raising the kids in A2 as opposed to Baton Rouge. Plus, as the wife of a coach, she understands (and is used to) journeying around to different jobs, but in that case that works in our favor- Michigan and Ann Arbor would be the Final Stop where they could Settle Down. That's worth something.
You make an interesting point, but I would caution you in assuming that the wife is only going to look at the money.
Show me where he announced that. God are they that dumb?
@cfaller96:
'08 LSA. PolSci major, econ minor.
Looking at our comments, we both seem to be on the same page. :)
899 visitors online ... wow!
Alright, my last post on the blackness and whiteness.
If a collective group of people see a particular person, say he's black, do a dumb thing, then for that group of people at that time I think it is fairly 'safe' to refer to said guy as 'dumb black guy.' Because we (well, whoever was watching CBS, which was half the million people on this board right now) saw it and are familiar with the reference.
Magnus, trust me, when I walk into my church tomorrow (yes im a pastor) I will NOT grab a cup of coffee, walk over to the men's group and say 'did you see that dumb black guy on CBS yesterday?' Why not? Because they are not familiar with the reference. I get that you wouldn't normally say that, that it normally makes you look ignorant. Here, today, we are familiar with the referent and its much more 'safe.'
cock. balls.
Big Jim, in case you didn't hear, that is NOT what went down at the presser. Les Miles essentially came to the podium and said "I am the head coach of LSU, and I'm disappointed that there's speculation about where I'm going, now I'm going to go coach the SEC Champ." That's it- nothing about signing an extension, nothing about going to M.
What I took from it is that he hasn't thought about it either way and hasn't decided either way, and just wants ESPN and CBS to STFU. And I think anyone who tells you otherwise is full of shit.
@alex
Do they still offer Poli Sci classes on Game Theory? I can't remember the prof's name, but he was EXCELLENT!, and he didn't just do Game Theory. He was a young guy (back then), so he's probably in his early to mid 40s now. Kimball, I think? I'm not sure.
But I loved that guy, even if I can't remember his name.
905 visitors online. Wow.
And you must be THIS tall to ride this rollercoaster.
Enjoy the moment if you can, M fans, because we won't go through this for another 10+ years.
I loved game theory, but it's listed as Econ 398 now though.
http://lsa.umich.edu/cg/
cg_detai...Array=w_08_1670
Guy who teaches it now is Czech? Very smart guy, very personable. I've had some interesting conversations with him about the dollars continued weakness and petro countries diversifying their currency reserves with Euros.
Currently in the process of graduating in April and having a damn enjoyable senior year. Was thinking about pursuing an analyst position at some major investment banks in Moscow, after graduation.
@cfaller 96:
def. not suggesting Mrs. Miles or any wife is ONLY about money. Merely speculating on how difficult it would be to walk away from double the money.
Money = status/power to men but generally = security to women. So not slagging any woman for caring about money. Bottom line is that women/wives do tend to be more pragmatic on issues that directly effect the financial home/family. And women are not remotely as prone as men to factor something as vague as loyalty to alma mater as deciding factor.
i wonder how many recruits we lose b/c of this debacle
the offseason is so much more exciting than the regular season! sometimes i wonder why i anticipate the season so much, with so much drama going on!
FWIW for those of you who are on this comment board and haven't checked out mgoblog, Brian has posted the verbatim of the presser.
Herbstriet is staying true to his tOSU roots. Sabotage Michigan at every turn. Desmond, DO NOT TALK TO THIS MAN!
IT'S OVER
Miles just said it on CBS!!!
"I will be the coach at LSU next year"
Well-that was fun
Here it is:
Please read this and then let's move on...
Q: We're on the floor of the Georgia Dome with LSU head coach Les Miles. Coach, let's get it over with one last time. You are the head football coach at LSU right now. You will be the head football coach at next season. Right or wrong?
Les Miles: "Absolutely. I'm staying at LSU. This is a place I want to be. This is a place my family is very comforatable. This school has everything. It has an opportunity at victory and competing at the highest level. Personally, professionally, socially, we have friends here. I respect the young men that I coach. Anybody that I have signed, when I tell them I am going to be here, I was sincere. I'm the head coach at LSU and I'm going to be the head coach at LSU."
egg. on. face.
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