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MSU people also enjoy dave matthews band
BTW, my team is looking for ball players. A2 league. hardball. wood bat. this sunday is the 1st practice as well as the league tryouts.
the UF edition of thing people like is strange... i had no idea UF was a decent school. who knew? also, brian forgot one:
arrogant asses.
sparties love that term. also, they love telling M people how we don't have a 'real' campus. not sure what that means, tho.
I really don't pay much attention to my little brother even when they riot or win in another sport. Anyway you slice it they will always be my little brother.
Go back to bed and call me when you hire Nick Sabin again.
oh and the riot stuff.... i stopped paying attention to that a while ago. it's like devils night in the D. when i first heard of it, it was kind of scary. then it just became 'that thing that happens every year in D.' in the D, devils night only became news to me again when it stopped happening. the same will be said for the riots in EL.
Brian's comments were all on target -- especially about how every MSU grad claims to have turned down Michigan (seems statiscally unlikely, but who knows?).
My experience is that the rivalry is much more laid back than Michigan/OSU. I've been to E. Lansing and generally get a "Michigan sucks" followed by a "have a beer." In Columbus, it's more like "Michigan sucks" followed by a bottle being thrown at your head.
After a young life of detesting all things green and with a room wallpapered with clippings of Butch Woolfolk, Stan Edwards, AC, etc, I tried to be very pragmatic when it came to selecting a college. I also have a framed acceptance letter to State with student number to show my sons how close I came and how one stupid decision can fuck up an otherwise exemplary life. It's useful for the drunk driving/wear your condom discussion.
I didn't know a "real campus" was a bunch of buildings straight from the Eastern European Brutalist school plopped down in a cornfield outside of a "town" that consists of a Taco Bell, tanning place, and strip mall.
Holy crap that was amazing.
I love sparty just as much as any die-hard state fan, but for completely different reasons. This post is one of them.
The thing with State girls is that they stay hot for about three months. The first semester of constant beer drinking and eating crap throws on the weight from which there's seldom times a comeback. By the time/if they do actually graduate, they don't wear the gown to commencement because it's a tradition; they wear it because it's the only thing that fits.
no dex, a 'real' campus is one in which the waft of cow manure is overwhelming.
Melissa Theriau est bonne.
dex-
Maybe you haven't been there in a while, but they now have a Wireless Giant, a Cash-n-Go, a Payday Advance, an Approved Cash Advance, a Cashland, and a Checksmart. Just fyi
No one cares about hockey. Brah or not.
I approve of this post.
I seem to associate the barb wire arm tattoo (along with 7th grade moustache--to call it a pornstache degrades the pornstache) with tUOS more than MSU. Am I wrong?
Re: women @ State....it's all true. I've lived in Lansing for the last three years and my job involves mostly teaching Spartan undergrads.
It's not that there aren't any good-looking women in A2--it's that the average little sister is much hotter than the average Michigan coed.
Speedy
I've heard of a t shirt that says something like "Maize: an arrogant shade of yellow"...I think this is awesome and want to know where I can get it. Anyone heard/seen of it?
I have a framed incomplete application to MSU--I started to fill it out, but 2 minutes in (I was almost done with the application mind you), I checked the mail and had a big envelope from the good guys.
Everything is on point here.
Cue the "You weren't good enough to make the NIT" comments.
I date a Spartan, so I can't comment on the girl situation, although I will. There is no middle ground at MSU when it refers to weight of their students. They are either rail thin, or they are spotted grazing with the Holsteins. The majority fall into the latter category.
Their campus is far too big to be considered a campus. It is a farm that they put school buildings on. Most of them look like derelicts that they transported from Romania. The school itself gets a rating of meh, with a few exceptions, mostly in the Ag fields.
I can't hate little brother, because hating them would make me either stoop to their level, or acknowledge that they are on ours. Whatever. I would go further but watching them get killed by Memphis in a crowded room of sobbing Spartans was good enough.
SPARTANS!!! What is your profession?
"Losing poorly!!!"
The barbed wire, tribal tattoo is prevalent on any campus with a large, failed group of high school jocks and brahs roaming around. MSU comes through in spades in that regard.
But nothing beats Henne's uncontrollable badassitude that lies within his little hentai tattoo.
haha! they jingle keys too!
(i guess the difference is that they scream while jingling. this can be done. take note, um fans.)
I thought Henne's tattoo was a puma or leopard or something else that is spotted and enormously feline.
I have never had any problem admitting MSU girls were, on the average, more attractive than UM girls.
But what pisses me off is the obese, Juicy sweat pants wearing, appreciate me because I have "curves", sugar filled coffee swilling, fucking cow that is stuffing a 12 inch Subway Club down her throat talking about how cute Spartan girls are. Yes, your friends might be, but you are just fat.
I'm not so sure that the Brah's DON'T do their fair share of hittin' dat. During my days in Ann Arbor, many, many furlows included East Lansing, and I couldn't help but notice how that campus always seemed to make women's clothes fall off.
Now granted, being State co eds, the majority of them drank themselves right back into Macomb Community College or something, or right into the arms of their hgih school boyfriend who just got a "great job" with Ford or Chevy (Five kids and two hundred pounds later, how'd that work out?), but the two semesters they were in Lansing they spent looking pretty hot (especially to drunk UM horndogs), on their backs (this WAS before doggie style and anal sex became all the rage), and constantly drunk enough that they never got mad if you never called them back. Hell, they'd forget who you were by the time you showed up the following weekend!
The tribal arm-band/barbed wire tattoo is prevalent among douche-bags in general. So - OSU/MSU, whatever.
"other than the virile, model-nailing populace of this fine establishment, that is. You go, model-nailing virile commenters!)"
Oddly enough, my wife did do some modeling. She's also sort of a green and white person (spent a year there but her degree is from a different, better school) who was hit in the foot by a tear gas cannister during one of the riots -- she wandered out to see what all was going on and didn't get out of there fast enough.
No, I'm not going to link to a picture. Sorry, you'll just have to take my word for it, though a number of the Deadspin folks have met her.
this WAS before doggie style and anal sex became all the rage
What, like 1912?
haha i completely agree with Brian about 300. I remember thinking 2 things : 1) holy shit those guys are ripped and 2) god damnit, state is going to use this as motivation and beat the hell out of it.
Anyway, the state-michigan rivalry isn't anything like ours with tOSU. state-UofM tailgates are generally the best of the year since everyone went to hs together and/or hooked up the night before. but, tOSU is different. I was down there in 07 for the #1-#2 game and the buckeye fans were savages. fans screaming in our faces, pushing us around, obviously talking shit all with the cops right there would who just looked the other way.
Doggie style has never, EVER not been all the rage.
can we get a precursory valenti impostor telling us how great their journalism school is and how he 'got into syracuse' so he clearly could have gotten into Michigan?
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Musket - I think that the barking sphincter is actually roughly 372 years old.
Linked to in the last comment section, there's some good stuff about this weekend's clinic here:
http://gobluemichiganwolverine.b...e.blogspot.com/
The cognitive dissonance between the name "Corey Zirbel" and the words "Best Block Award" makes me dizzy.
HaHa, you young guys. You probably aren't aware that there have been times that everyone in the country wasn't filing bankruptcy and having their mortgage foreclosed.
I'm not much of a traditionalist, but even I think jacking a comic book movie that came out in the past 2 years and applying it to your football games reeks of short sighted trendiness.
Then again, they have had like 12 football uniforms in 6 seasons. How many different ways are there to put a fucking S on a helmet?
Sorry, but A2 typically has some fugly chicks attending and typically MORE than your average university.
And they'll soon have their 12th coach in the last four seasons (a bit of an exagerration, but still funny if you take it completely out of context and compare it to a bad knock knock joke).
You forgot "Pride before the fall". They love that!
I can't totally hate on lil' bro. They are the ultimate 'state school'. Whenever we'd go up to The Circus to party for a night or 2 we'd come back with some ridiculous stories. But here's the thing about East Lansing. There is no other place like the circus where when you wake up in the morning, you just want to get the hell out of there asap.
Talk about cognitive dissonance:
Did anyone else experience some of that when Dantonio utterd "Pride cometh yad yad" only months after having the cahones to say "the state just got greener...BECAUSE OF ME!!!"??
I'm not much of a traditionalist, but even I think jacking a comic book movie that came out in the past 2 years and applying it to your football games reeks of short sighted trendiness.
We agree.
Co-signed,
Zombie Nation & Jump Around
How many different ways are there to put a fucking S on a helmet?
i'll tell you:
S on one side only like the steelers
S on both sides
S w/ one strip down the middle
S w/ like 4-6 stripes of varying thicknesses down the middle
changing the helmet to a metallic green instead of flat green.
and of course, all those combinations w/ the sparty profile. one could do a masters level thesis on the uniform changes for MSU football. in fact, i think they offer this as a grad degree in EL.
"Sorry, but A2 typically has some fugly chicks attending and typically MORE than your average university."
There is a generally observable inverse relationship between "attractiveness of student population" and "US News School Ranking". The only exception is for schools that are primarily known for engineering, in which case you must add a significant fugliness fudge factor, because all engineering schools are full of weird looking people regardless of school quality.
Also, expensive excellent private schools full of rich people will sometimes buck the trend somewhat in the other direction -- there are the smart ugly kids still there, but the rich legacies have generations of trophy wives in their genetics.
The preceeding post was brought to you by "Bullshit Science Monthly"
CLASSIC brah. lol
Shafer swears the most? Scott "Diabolical genius and Dr. No lookalike" Shafer drops the f-bomb like it's hot? Wow.
That's great news about Panter. IIRC there was a lot of hype about him but he was barely used last year.
Also, Drew Sharp actually defends RR:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...RTS06/
804060635
Theuriau.
Even the women will do this. It does not matter that this fan, grad, or provost might, say, be a 180 pound 5'2" woman, or, more commonly, a moderately in-shape girl with a blond dye job and a face Sarah Jessica Parker would find unpleasantly equine. She will regale you with tales of all the hot poon available for any brah with a barbed-wire tattoo and a 30 of Natty Ice.
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hahahahaha..sooo epic
While Michigan girls disappoint as a whole, their ugliness is exaggerated. I didn't think it was that bad, but then again my standards may have been lowered.
there are a lot of hotties running around the campus in a2. there are definitely a little bit more up in EL but at the same time the idea of where they might have been (the night before) keeps you at distance.
Brian offers anecdotal evidence that MSU fans don't care about hockey... from Ann Arbor bar observations.
Simply, amazingly retarded.
372 years. Wow. That's a long time to be a fashion statement. It is second behind Madonna's 484 year reign.
Sparty, don't!!
I got the last video from one of my friend's databases on sparty.
I may go around calling people "brah" just for the rest of the day. Just to see people's reaction.
I'm a State grad (1998), but grew up a Michigan fan. After being a student there and seeing the ignorant shit most of the students in EL did, I gladly turned my back on them and continued rooting for the team I grew up with. It helps that my wife has 2 degrees from UM, so I don't get too much shit from MSU grads saying I'm a traitor. Shit, I'm a traitor to UM for having gone to State. (And yes, I did get accepted to UM but was dead-set on Journalism school, which IS pretty good at State.)
Call someone a brah in Ann Arbor and you get a confused and puzzled look, unless you are at Touchdowns. Call someone a brah in EL and you get a "FUCKIN' RIGHT BRAH!!!" Response. Usually when I get that response I say, "lets go get some ghb!" which is followed by chants of "GHB! GHB! GHB!" This ranks right up there with chants of "USA! USA! USA!"
Dead From Above = Doug Karsch ?
Thank God I'm not Karsch.
musket--you could replace GHB with 'NO Explode, yayo, whippits, whey protein, gel, etc.
Beantown - I figured GHB was the most offensive, thus its inclusion. However, you are correct, all of those fit.
Here, go get a BJ from your grandmother, on me.
BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ! BJ!
"Brah" reminds me of Two Fast Two Furious waaay too much!!
That was a movie reference, btw. 10 pts if you know where it's from, and 20 pts to the person who points out how I butchered that quote.
This discussion would be alot more entertaining if there were a bunch of pissed off Sparties with their undies in a bunch over Brian's post. Someone get lil' bro to start posting here.
@SpartanHockey -
So the level of fanfare over hockey decreases as you move away from East Lansing? Who cares where they were watching the game. If there were a bunch of State fans at that bar, then the fact that they weren't cheering for their team shows that State fans don't care about hockey.
Beer Fest.
I remember brah from Zoolander:
"Excuse me brah."
"You're excused...and I'm not your brah!"
has F*UCK THE.... PO-LICE replaced GO GREEN... GO WHITE?
seriously, after watching the video, i no longer find this funny. I hope they pay the cops in EL much more than most other places.
There is nothing wrong with whey protein. NO-Explode, however, is kind of a waste IMO. Too expensive for what it does.
jaegerbombs
No mention of Micheal Moore?
yes sir.
Inevitably, I always start feeling bad when I rag on State. A few bad moves here and there in HS, and that could have been any of us. Most of those poor bastards grew up rooting for the Maize and Blue with all their sad, 20-on-the-ACT-having hearts, but were forced to switched their allegiances that fateful day when the rejection letter arrived.
I've been to East Lansing all of twice, and both times I found myself flooring it down 96 back towards the mighty city of Ann Arbor, counting my blessings.
nothing wrong with whey, i got some to my right. just making a point out of all the guys at State who talk about their working out or what they take to work-out in 95% of their conversation.
from the comments:
relax dude, its college, thats what people do in college, they mature once they get out
obviously, this may be embarrassing for the university, but who the fuck cares....his is american pride at it's best....GO GREEN, GO WHITE, GO STATE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!
I'm glad they rioted instead of dispersing for the police. I can't stand when people give in, just because police decide you're wrong...
What is an "unlawful assembly"? I could have sworn that was a constitutional right.
it wasn't shown in the video but the students were raining down glass bottles on the police and then rushed them.
just from the 1st 4 screens!?!?! i couldn't read anymore. why is it that humans let me down so much. is it my expectations?
Someone previously said visits to MSU's campus usually involve the following conversation: "Michigan sucks! . . . have a beer."
I agree and for that reason, I would rather see a post accussing OSU of recruiting violations or describing their old admissions policy ("Do you have a heartbeat? Yes? Well then, congratulations, you're accepted to tOSU." Sparty rages at us from time to time and looks silly in the process, but I'd rather save my real energy for OSU.
I hereby concur in this post for the reasons given. I request that future posts of this nature disparage OSU, the SEC, Jay Bilas, or Gary Danielson - with an occassional passing shot at Sparty.
So the level of fanfare over hockey decreases as you move away from East Lansing? Who cares where they were watching the game. If there were a bunch of State fans at that bar, then the fact that they weren't cheering for their team shows that State fans don't care about hockey.
The next time there's a UM hockey game going on during the Rose Bowl, let me know and we'll see what level of attention Wolverine fans pay to the guys wearing the ice skates.
if we are getting our ass kicked at the rose bowl by 30 then it would be pretty high
ed,
That is exactly the point. Read the last line of that section: "State basketball fans are basically Michigan football fans".
tel me somebody has seen the hooters commercials with dick vitale.
@Ed: the point is MSU was down 30 and NONE of the attention got diverted.
ed - it'd get enough fanfare if there were hockey fans around i'm sure. luckily, such a scenario will never arise as playoff hockey usually starts well after january 1st so you can never prove me wrong.
but what was i thinking, who could possibly expect a sparty to process two things at once?
Uh... I stopped watching the Memphis beatdown and switched over to the hockey game. The end of the second period was fantastic.
But... Brian saw some MSU fans in an Ann Arbor bar and they, like, didn't care and stuff. So, like, Sparty sux. LOL.
I completely agree, and I wrote this before our matchup this year:
http://phatmajikandthebiz.blogsp...-
manifesto.html
13 POSTS to mention Melissa Theriau? 13?!! That's it- I'm convinced each and everyone one of you likes the cock.
Except for Beantown. Either he likes chicks and Hooters, or he's like the rest of you and has a Dick Vitale fetish to boot. God I hope it's the first one.
Ninja Football: *Ahem* (even though I mispelled her name . . .)
Anonymous: OK, I guess I'll take that as a compliment.
DetUMICH: I seriously doubt that would be the case. But who knows.
The implication I get from Brian's comments is that hockey and men's basketball are on the same plane of existence. Maybe I'm reading too much into it.
Anyway, to summarize: we've each got one big-time spectator sport we're pretty good at and one we're not so good at. And we both play hockey--a sport some, but not most, fans care about.
Also, we each have one idiotic nickname some of our fans insist on calling the other school (scUM, little brother).
That sum things up?
"But... Brian saw some MSU fans in an Ann Arbor bar and they, like, didn't care and stuff. So, like, Sparty sux. LOL."
Did you miss all the other reasons you suck? And can we add the use of "sux" to that list? brah?
brah, we all love tits
Sorry Medals, I just assumed you knew you were left out as you made the comment. So, for the record, I do not suspect Medals likes the cock.
That sum things up?
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pretty much
Ninja,
You're throwing off my concentration...
I've been absolved. Thanks.
i still think you're gay medals
To be fair, little brother is much more unique than scUM, which is also used by people who hate Minnesota or other UM schools (scUM) or fans that hate Southern Cal or South Carolina(ex:SCum).
yeah, scUM isn't really that creative, but who cares when you can Par-tay!
What's everyone doing?
Go read my blog.
After all the talk about UM vs. MSU feminine attractiveness quotient, I'd like there to be some sort of comparable study of UM vs. MSU guys. My gut feeling is that all the hot guys are on the coasts and UM wins out due to the larger out-of-state population.
Smoke Green Snort White!
Brian, why do you hate Michigan State so much? They haven't caused you any pain from football, and most fans find MSU to be a pretty harmless place on gameday. Your relentless attacks on little brother make you look like an enormous piece of shit.
And by the way, if I had a nickel for every time I heard "brah" at a UofM frat, I could have gotten Pryor to come here.
Maize,
For some reason I find your comment utterly hilarious- which is odd b/c I have no idea what concentration you're referring to.
Classic. I went to East Lansing High School and didn't even apply to MAC...I mean MSU. What's the point? Do you really need an acceptance letter to MSU when you have a diploma from U of M?
I have friends from EL who are die-hard Sparty fans/alums and they just don't get it. They seem convinced that their football program is on equal footing with ours and they've just had a really bad run of it. Ha!
Oh, and EL does have some hotties, for sure. Not that Ann Arbor doesn't, but there are more at MSU. And speaking of, who is that Melissa T. chick???
Classic post.
@chilloutbrian :
If you read EDSBS links posted above Brian's post, it's referenced from a series of "Things ____ people like." Don't flatter yourself, he actually doesn't care but it's the offseason and there's not much to write about. Plus, sparties are hilarious.
I should say "Stuff ____ people like" not things.
Rivals commented on the "Spring Scrimmage":
As someone previously noted, Austin Panter was "starting", but Marell Evans was out with a stomach flu, and didn't play. So, Panter may not truly be the "starter".
Tim Jamison was apparently the most dominant defensive player - blowing lots of plays up in the backfield.
The best RB's on the field, at least for that single scrimmage, were apparently Kevin Grady and Avery Horn. The guy said Minor missed some obvious cuts. Grady played in the Owen Schmitt role, and was a credible threat as the "dive man", while Horn showed lots of explosiveness, though some indecision, getting caught dancing in the backfield.
Hemingway apparently had surgert teh other day, with pins in to help his ankle.
James Rogers shifted to WR.
Clemons is playing in the slot, not the edge.
Stonum apparently needs works on his routes, but they say he showed the best hands and the most speed of the WR's.
"Your relentless attacks on little brother make you look like an enormous piece of shit."
The amount of time spent ragging on State is WAY less than that of UoOS. Relentless? HA! now you truly do sound like a little brother.
\at this point State basketball fans are basically Michigan football fans, except with more brah, brah.//
True story.
The hockey team is about to win the first national championship for the university since women's softball (is there a men's softball? Cancel that, I really don't want to know) and it seems all anyone can talk about is spring practice, recruitin', and how bad the Detroy-yit Tigers are sucking (which is admittedly worthwhile discussion...holy SHIT, what happened to them, anyway?).
Hockey is a warrior's game...it's where all-state quarterbacks go to die:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k...h?
v=kMLHqHu8NMY
I'm going to the spring game. booyakasha.
Personally, I think Brian's haircut (or lack thereof) makes him look like an enormous piece of shit, not his input in the "Stuff ___ people like" series. Maybe that's just me.
Ouch with the personal attacks. Perhaps you should get him a gift certificate to Great clips Kgh10.
Johnny - I love our sports teams at UM, but it doesn't mean I know everything about the sports they play. Our soccer team this year was pretty horrible, but I went and saw a bunch of those (as well as some of the women's games). I played soccer and know/love the sport. Hockey - never played and don't know much about it therefore would be a complete doofus if I tried to explain what went on in a game besides the goals.
hahaha Ninja, I'm kidding. I could give two shits about what Brian looks like, he rules. I was makin fun of that sparty dumbass crying about Brian's blog post.
I've always theorized that if you saw still pictures of a random sample of ten MSU coeds and ten UM coeds, you wouldn't be able to tell them apart. Of course if you started to talk to them you could tell them apart because the spartan chicks would be more likely to be drunk, and the first words out of their mouth would be "F$%# Michigan! Woooo!"
oh and Johnny, stop jinxing us, we haven't even gone to the title game yet!
Phat fill, that's a hell of a blog.
Oh, and the defense scored 3 TD's in the game - Charles Stewart ran back a pick, while Stevie Brown and and Morgan Trent ran back fumbles.
Oh and speaking of our softball team, they're currently 32-4 hollerrr.
@kgh, MSU is not exactly a bastion of originality. The have the same fight song as dozens of other schools. Washington state comes to mind.
Aren't you all glad we don't use Wolverine from X-Men as our mascot? I'm surprised Sparty hasn't been replaced by Gerard Butler (King Leonidas). Don't get me wrong, Wolverine is awesome, but damn that'd be cheesy as hell.
I'll be honest - I don't care about hockey. If I was in the MSU fan situation, I might have switched to the hockey game to ease my pain, but really, I just can't get into it.
@Maize4Blue
I think you may need more than 2 posts on your blog before you encourage readers to go to it.
I had a framed copy of the application MSU sent me. It was a 4x6 postcard with my name, test scores, and other vitals already filled in. But then I threw it out and put something more valuable in the frame, a sheet of crisp toilet paper.
If I remember correcly, Iowa fans were much more fascinated by the picture of the guy with the mullet than MSU fans were.
When I was a student and after I graduated, we paid virtually no attention to MSU, which was the greatest insult to them. Indifference is what fomented the MSU inferiority complex and the "arrogant asses" comebacks, and what made it so satisfying. I appreciate the belittling sentiment of "little brother," but it means you're paying attention to them, making them relevant. Attention is what they crave, after all, which makes the little brother moniker apropos. One thing has remained constant, though: Michigan's success does not depend on MSU's failure (Jehuu Caulcrick).
\Of course if you started to talk to them you could tell them apart because the spartan chicks would be more likely to be drunk, and the first words out of their mouth would be "F$%# Michigan! Woooo!"//
This happens with tUoOSU chicks, too...in GEORGIA. After the #1/#2 football game I got ambushed while at a hockey game...I was wearing M gear and some chick asked me what time it was...I told her, and she said "...and Michigan STILL sucks! OSU, WOOOOOH!!!!!"
That bitch wasn't even wearing colors or a logo of any kind...I felt like an Israeli teenager in a Tel Aviv pizza joint. I spent the rest of the night pissed off.
You know, I admire that fans dedication to the cause.
NO!
I always wanted to some 'superfan' to wear a realistic wolverine costume, but that was before the movie came out.
@DP,
It's literally 3 days old.
I just got tix to the Rich Rodriguez dog & pony show here in Chicago.
Make sure to ask him what conference Michigan plays in.
I don't even think we know what conference we're in anymore. Thanks Rich!
I'm also going to ask him what Bo would do.
Please ask him about updates on Antonio Bass. I need to know our chances at him running the spread this year.
Doug Karsch's wife went to MSU. And dated Jim Miller before Karsch. FWIW.
I really have nothing else to add.
Apparently the jingling of keys is not just a UM thing, must be a state wide phenomenon.
Also, refer to him as Comrade if you do get to address him.
Also, if he's up for sale, please buy him and set him free.
Slavery's a bitch.
Too soon?
When you are in East Lansing you get the undeniable feeling that it's the place to be. When you're in Ann Arbor you wonder how they possibly got the kids that nobody liked from your high school, cloned them, and brought them to one city. I love UofM, much of my family attended, but that has to be the least cool student body of any school that large. You guys have a great football team, absolutely amazing business and law programs, but MSU is without a doubt the better experience in every way. I suppose we've been able to learn from all of "big brother's" deficiencies.
By the way the "Brah" problem is well known by us at MSU. There is a distinct divide between the frat boys/ people with brains, and it is probably the worst thing about the school.
OK, the perfect questions:
"Comrade Rodriguez, do you feel that Antonio Bass can help us in the Big East style of play?"
It baits him into thinking he may still be in the Big East, works in Bass...excellent.
"When you're in Ann Arbor you wonder how they possibly got the kids that nobody liked from your high school, cloned them, and brought them to one city"
This would be totally refuted by all the guys from out east, particularly anywhere near Maryland. If you don't believe me, just ask them- they have no problem telling you how cool they were.
BLUE KEYS RULE!
Ace,
I thought the same thing when I was a freshman in Ann Arbor. To make it worse, I was placed on North Campus. It wasn't "uncool" kids. It was a freak show.
I thought about transfer, but I talked to family. "Anthony, I have 3 MSU grads pouring concrete for me. Don't be an idiot." I stayed at UM and finally found what I was looking for.
There are plenty of "cool kids" but they are harder to find. When at MSU, you feel like you could hang out with about 80% of the students. At UM, it's maybe 25%. You just have to look harder.
Looking back, not transferring was the best decision of my life. Looking a little harder for the cool kids was well worth the doors that UM has opened.
Making generalizations about the coolness/attractiveness/whatever on a 25,000+ population is pretty pointless. You can find several of every single stereotype that exists on the face of the earth. That's one cool thinkg about going to a big school - there is literally every single kind of person.
Damn it. I thought I was cool.
No, Aaron. Cool kids don't go to Michigan. Joke's on us.
chitown - agreed. If you've ever been to that one facebook group about the
"50 stereotypes you will find in college" (or something of that nature) it is dead on and all of the people in the group are from different schools.
@ BlueSeoul
"MSU is not exactly a bastion of originality. The have the same fight song as dozens of other schools. Washington state comes to mind."
No. No, they don't.
Sparty has better looking girls. People (guys and girls) at both school put on weight from drinking and late night pizza. I'm in grad school down at UT Austin, and it's incredible the difference in how active (and thus in better shape) people are here compared to UM/MSU.
I also can't get into college hockey. I really think it's the metal face cages.
"I just got tix to the Rich Rodriguez dog & pony show here in Chicago."
Please wear a wizard hat to the event.
PitE '05:
Having just moved from a climate where it's warm 24/7 to the Godforsaken climate that is Michigan winter (seriously, which one of my idiot ancestors settled this place?) I think much of the blame is due to weather. It's much more difficult to be active when it's 14 degrees outside, rainy and gray. If I ever have a son he's going to a southern school, I'll owe him that- I'm still pissed at my dad for not introducing me to the bastion of hotties which is the SEC. Bastard.
Ninja -
Agreed.
http://www.umhoops.com/2008/04/0...rand-valley-st/
K'Len Morris leaving the hoops team.
I'm going to look like an ass if your being sarcastic JHS, but he left the team before the season started.
Yes yes yes! I got tickets! bow down
There is something on Scout about all white away uniforms. Say it aint so!
@spartan hockey.
Yes. Yes they do.
http://www.msu.edu/~carillon/fit...on/
fitesong.htm
You've got to be shitting me about all white uniforms. That's just tacky. And wrong. And Penn state-ish. Oh wait, I already mentioned tacky and wrong- sorry for the redundancy.
I worship at the feet of Melissa Theuriau (that's the correct spelling, by the way - you NEVER misspell the name of a Goddess such as Melissa).
Hey -- the men's soccer program is on the rise. Very young team, but now getting good recruits from across the country. Watch out. It is just a matter of time before Coach Burns has that team in the top 10 nationally.
I played on the club team with Burns way back in the day before it got varsity status...
i must be old. wtf is this "brah" shit? is everyone a surfer now?
signed-
old & lame
The thing on Scout about the all white uni's is just some typical Scout neurotic who admittedly has too much time on his hands.
Seriously, I think most of those Scout posters have something else on their hands-hair.
Wow. I was so hyped to get in the "hair on the palms" joke that I forgot to say he "dreamed them up on his own", and wanted to know what the other guys thought about it.
True Story.
It's kind of a different thread, though, for Scout. It's not the usual 397th thread of the day asking Tom Beaver who the next recruit is going to be.
BSB-
I'm 34 and it struck my best friend when he went to State and pledged Delta Chi. Everything and everyone was "brah". Oh yeah, and pizza became "Zah". Not pizza, not "a pie", just "zah". As in "Let's get some zah, brah". So unless you're ancient (which for the record is 35+) you must've just missed it.
i guess i missed it
Sphincter, I hope your right....but then again, I havent met a spincter I couldnt trust.
burns is a tool
You can trust a barking sphincter. A talking one would be too easy, your average local funny barn laugh club ventriloquist can make an asshole talk. But to make one bark is surely something extraordinary.
UM isn't going to all white uni's. Though I know I'd like to see some sort of third freaky deaky uniform shit, like all Blue for the Sparty game, or the OSU game. I'm not so sure I dig those maize pants too much anymore.
Maybe Blue pants with Maize jersey's just for fun. Maybe blue pants with white jersey's for away games.
I do think some changes are coming in the uniform department. I just don't know what. But I DO know it's not all white.
The local news just had a story about "Just when you thought rioting was the dumbest thing students could do, some are now bragging about being a part of it online."
Looks like the PD is checking out Facebook like they did the video last time.
I'll scream if we get the all white jerseys - such an awful look, atleast we wouldn't have white helmets like UT and PSU. I love when people try to say that PSU has such a "classic" uniform - its all white with one friggin stripe on the helmet - it sucks.
Gimme Oregon-like abominations before you give me an all white uni.
@Ninja
that 'zah story, is the most horrifying thing I've ever heard. I can only hope that no one I know ever refers to Pizza as "zah."
Brah!
For jim harbaugh scramble:
"jut like me"
"UCLA football coach Rick Neuheisel saw “eight million thousand mistakes” during the Bruins’ first spring practice Thursday, but he said that did not matter."
Memo to Neuheisel:
"Eight million thousand" is not a real number. Eleventy billion? That's another story.
I found this article very interesting
http://www.ndnation.com/boards/s...id=26301;
d=this
Strategery!!
Have you guys looked at the comments on the youtube page? By far the funniest dialogue on there had to be the following:
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troyd7756:
fuck those below me, eat a dick if you weren't there and are just hating. if you were there, you probably had a fucking blast just like i did.
Suislide1:
thats because you are an immature faggot. I bet you take huge cum sprays from your dad faggot.
BLeeTKD:
Who says that, "huge cum sprays"? What are you, 12 years old? Eh... I guess it's easy to talk trash when you're sitting behind a computer. Fix your grammar, go to college and next time you insult someone, try not to say something like that. It makes educated people think that you're just projecting yourself and your upbringing onto others.
Accepted to Yale, U of M, and MSU. Guess where I chose to go?
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.
.
Why? Because I BLEED GREEN.
Spartans know how to have fun.
Work hard, play hard.
someguyssenseofhumor:
If you got into Yale, you should've gone if you were able to afford it.
If you weren't able to afford Yale, you should've gone to Michigan.
But you went to State, proving that you're a certifiable dumbass.
***********************
Haha!
I don't buy the "enabler" argument. It's just another bitter West Virginian whining. It's ridiculous. WVU fans are still so pissed that he left but then complain about how he only uses 4 plays. Psychopaths.
You guys are all just jealous b/c you lack top-end brahness, brah!
Notre Dame defensive tackle Derrell Hand was arrested Thursday afternoon after allegedly soliciting a prostitute.
Hand, who was suspended indefinitely from the team Friday, was released from the St. Joseph County Jail on $250 bond Thursday. [snip]
Aug 4th 2007
SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Notre Dame tight end Will Yeatman was charged Wednesday with misdemeanor counts of drunken driving and criminal recklessness after allegedly driving a car on a campus sidewalk with his headlights off in the early morning hours
February 6, 2008
Demetrius Jones Arrested for Marijuana Possession (22 WSBT South Bend)
EnviedOne05-24-2007, 12:00 PM
(WSBT) He is one of the promising new prospects on the Notre Dame football team, potentially even their new quarterback. But that future could be on shaky ground after a drug arrest.
Said Charlie Weis:
"I see nothing wrong with it. Mr. Hand, meet Mary Magdeline. Ms. Magdeline, meet Mr. Hand."
I came across this gem at ChicagoSports.com. Just couldn't resist tearing it to shreds. Greenstein's quotes in bold…
Weis, whose head-coaching experience before Notre Dame had been limited to one season at Franklin Township (N.J.) High School, nonetheless intimidated some players enough to keep them in a shell. Maybe that helps to explain the rash of transfers and player arrests - four that we know of - under his watch.
Need I continue?
Anybody who would go to MSU over Yale and UM because they "bleed green and white" is exactly the type of person who was destined to go to MSU. You can bleed green and white from anywhere. Including Ann Arbor and New Haven. What a brah.
Weis should be arrested for attemted murder! Shovin all those friggin twinkies down his pie hole.
attempted
I know
Not to many "brahs" by going to MSU he was "keepin' it real."
Musket:
Something tells me this guy thinks he literally bleeds green and white.
Brah.
Ok, all this "brah" nonsense is getting tiresome.
Just kidding brah. This is f-ing BRAHSOME!
Ninja
I vote we cut him. EXPERIMENTATION BRAH!!!
Dude.
Hell, he can't live more than 5 minutes from me. Just bring out a video camera and tell him he'll be on youtube if he beats me in a wager, something like "Here's a machete, two cases of Natty Ice says you can't cut you're arm off within the 5 minute limit." Piece of cake.
Or, as in keeping with the Way of the Brah- "Piece o' zah."
But he has to cut it off right on his barbwire tattoo. Otherwise the bet is null and void. But we won't tell him that beforehand.
I hate barbed wire tattoos. They make me want to wrap actual barbed wire around the wearer's arm.
Buddy of mine has barbed wire around one arm, tribal art around the other. When asked why he chose said "tats", He says its because he wanted something different than everybody else.
He's stupid.
Holy shit. I just registered for a freeroll on Pokerstars and over 6600 people registered in the first 4 minutes. those guys are making some serious jake.
Off to find "Machete Douche" while buying beer. Think it's a misdemeanor if I talk him into cutting his arm off in the parking lot of the 7 Eleven? Oh, nevermind- this is East Lansing. the proper answer to that is "No way brah!"
OK, I havent taken the time to read any comments yet, but I think that looked like a blast; until the "Fuck the Police" chanting.
At that point, I think I would have started for home.
I would've screamed "Hey Officer- cuff me and stuff a maglite up my hoo hoo".
I can't find an actual article that says the spring game is going to be on the BTN. Does anyone know if this is really happening or just a rumor?
@Orlando
via MSC
"In the story on MGoBlue, there was no mention of the spring game being broadcast on the Big Ten Network, and the BTN's schedule doesn't have it listed, so I'm starting to worry. Although a Saline paper said that it would be shown live on the BTN, that appears to be the only source reporting that information right now."
Thanks JHS, looks like it's not going to be..which sucks.
Check out these t-shirts..I can't decide if they're are incredibly gay or really cool..
http://49244.spreadshirt.com/us/...-Shirt-
2791896#
Good stuff on the spring...
http://gobluemichiganwolverine.b...e.blogspot.com/
""UCLA football coach Rick Neuheisel saw “eight million thousand mistakes” during the Bruins’ first spring practice Thursday, but he said that did not matter."
Memo to Neuheisel:
"Eight million thousand" is not a real number. Eleventy billion? That's another story."
Eight million thousand = eight billion?
As a self-proclaimed Barwis worshipper I say: Undeniably Gay. Looks like something a Buckeye with a barbed wire tattoo and too much hair product would wear.
Ace,
Eleventy Billion is an inside joke between myself and a bunch of real life friends, it's caught on with one or two people here.
I used to wear Camo back in the day - when it was popular (no limit and master p were on top of the charts). No way in hell would I wear that "barwis battalion" shirt now, hell I wouldn't have even worn it back then.
I am Pro-barwis having a shirt, just not that shirt.
\ I also can't get into college hockey. I really think it's the metal face cages.//
That was to keep Jack Johnson from chewing through the jugular veins of opposing players while he was at Michigan.
RE: The uni's. All-white wouldn't be the worst...all-Maize would, and WVU actually had something similar while RichRod was there. But they were wearing that when they shat the bed against Pitt, so hopefully the memory of that will keep the idea back in Morgantown.
JHS:
The only thing camo is good for (outside of hunting) is behind the bar. We used to wear camo shorts all the time in St. Thomas b/c they'd hide the myriad of stains incurred while mixing fruity drinks.
For the record- no wall white unis and no camo Barwis shirts. I'll personally Keegan anyone voting for this.
Kerrigan?
Ha! No "Keegan", as in hunt them down and hit them in the junk.
That shirt is so Tressel.
Guess what...I have a confession to make...
I am also Musket Rebellion
I take that back. If you were thrown in jail while wearing that shirt, you would be repeatedly Tressel'd.
dude?
Didn't the Wolverines wear all white uniforms in the Orange Bowl against Oklahoma? I recall white pants with a single thin maize/blue stripe down the side.
The experiment only lasted the one game, IIRC.
They wore all-white against OSU (in the Mike Lantry game, I believe) maybe a year before the Orange Bowl. Their record in white pants is not good.
I have so much camo it's ridiculous. But I'm a duckhunter, so I have to.
I'd like to see all blue. Or maize pants with a a block M on the front hip, and an electric blue jersey with maize numbers.
God, talking about uniform colors is dangerously faggish.
I hate all-white unis. They make teams such as Penn State look like they're playing in their underwear.
Only if the colors you're talking about involve electric blue.
Good point
LOL
Guess I better go blow a dude then. And that stuff is so salty and it gags me.
I used to wear Camo back in the day - when it was popular (no limit and master p were on top of the charts).
Jim Harbaugh Scramble | 04.07.08 - 8:31 pm | #
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+10 for working in a no limit reference into a michigan blog
*dusts off tru 2 the game album*
Could be worse- you could be worried about wearing white after Labor day.
South875
- I was actually listening to TRU 2 Da Game - in my car the past few days, one of my all time favorite albums.
JHS
hell yeah, they were the shit back in 99-00..my how they fell off, but tru 2 da game is a classic
Pretty good ball game so far, although the score reminds me of a UM hoops game.
Yeah the old no limit stuff is so awesome, ice cream man, charge it to da game etc. After they hit the big time they started to suck so bad - I was pumped when TRU Homies came out, big mistake on my part.
hahahaha
once P's son was old enough to make money off of he quit caring about everyone else
Game? What game? Since when is Dancing With the Stars referred to as "the game"?
"Son, lil' bow wow just hit the big time, we gonna start marketing you now as lil' romeo, oh yeah and I'll do dancing with the stars and even have my own nickelodeon show too."
shirts gay
@ BlueSeoul
I'm sorry, but you are way off. The MSU fight song sounds nothing like any other college fight song that I've ever heard - and definitely not Washington State. Google it. It is not even close.
I am almost 100% sure you are completely ignorant and talking out of your ass on this one.
fight song/ alma mater/ some other piece of crap music, you're right, I don't know which piece of lame instrumentation you share, and I don't frankly care.
but when we went to the rosebowl in 1998 we all got a good laugh out of the WSU band that was dressed like a highschool band and was playing the same dumb songs we hear from sParty's.
Maybe you guys would know that if you ever went to a rosebowl.
Holy shit. Overtime=another beer. Happy birthday to me!
Ninja - just thought the same thing.
Dude.
memphis executing a high grade choke job
They wore all-white against OSU (in the Mike Lantry game, I believe) maybe a year before the Orange Bowl. Their record in white pants is not good.
Michigan wore white pants with their road uniforms in 1974 and 1975. The two games you mention were the only two they lost while dressed in white pants, they were 8-2 in white pants.
Oh holy shit. I got all the neck tattoos, I lok like a killa, and when I need to drop a lil ol' free throw, I ain't got no ballz!
That choke job lacked top end closiness.
I WIN I WIN I WIN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHA
NEnERneNERneNER
Jay Bilas = Douchebag
MSU's fight song sounds like fart.
Big Gay are you really also Musket Rebellion?
NEnERneNERneNER?????
Thanks jackass. I just shot beer out my nose. True story.
@ BlueSeoul
No worries, I get the Victors and Buckeye Battle Cry mixed up all the time, too.
Red Bull Air Race in Detroit. I'm so there.
A student from UM won the 10,000 dollar facebook bracket prize.
Apparently...someone things that the spread offense is easy to defend without a running QB. Should I run and go cry?
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...RTS06/
104060004
I discovere something, too: A passing offense is easy to defend when they don't have a quarterback who can throw.
Anyone know what the feeling is right now in South Bend? Do those delusional domers think they'll be a top ten team like they did last year?
Calling things gay shows a lack of family values. Coach Tressel treats us like family. He cares enough to personally give us all physicals. And not just once. I keep telling him, "For the last time Daddy Tressel, I don't have a hernia, COUGH COUGH." But he keeps checking, because he cares.
And when my vagina hurts too bad to practice, Coach Tressel takes me back to the training room and spoons with me until I feel all better. That is what family means to me.
That Freep article is all based on what Gary Danielson thinks. Danielson sucked with the lions (more than most players do) and we all know he hates UM. Remember his passionate FLA for championship game campaign in Dec of 06?
Who cares what he thinks - we may as well ask Andre Ware, Stoney Case, Scott Mitchell, Charlie Batch, Joey Harrington, Mike McMahon, Eric Hipel, or any other crap qb who once played for the lions.
Red Bull Air Race in Detroit. I'm so there.
Me too. I can't wait.
And I actually heard that interview when it was orginally broadcast on WDFN in December. I used to really like Danielson, but lately he's been a bit arrogant and a chump. Losing when your starting QB goes down is not a trend that is solely reserved for spread teams.
I'm ordinarily not hyper sensitive when it comes to people who critique my beloved Michigan. Hey, it's a big time program, it comes with the territory.
But you know what? People in the media seem to be taking their criticisms and an almost seeming desire to see UM and Rodriguez fail to an esoteric level.
Is it Michigan's fault that Lloyd Carr both sucked, AND had to retire? Is it Rodriguez's fault that Michigan hired him?
I just get a feeling that the hatred of UM has reached Notre Dame levels, yet UM has not NBC to spoon with.
i agree. people have always hated UM, but i have never seen anything like this before. you can tell we've been doing something right all these years because people see us as weak now and they've jumped all over it.
Manny Harris has a draft bio on ESPN. I didn't hear anything about him leaving early. Is this ESPN ranking all good college players or did I miss something?
http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadr...raftyear%
3d2008
i havent heard anything either. it would be a mistake for him to leave now
Henne,
UM ran the spread against Florida this year and I consider Henne about as mobile as Rosie O'Donnell. (Too Soon?)
Oh, on a comment yesterday, I said that I would use the word "brah". I walked into work and told my boss:
"What's up brah?" (He's younger and pretty cool)
He looked at me and told me if I said "brah" again, I would need to update my resume. I think he was joking, but I won't chance it.
not that anyone cares but this is the song I was talking about: 'eat em up'
http://fightmusic.com/mp3/big10/
...__Eat_Em_Up.mp3
You can hear that played by many lame/unoriginal bands all over the place.
Is Manny good enough for the NBA? Somehow I don't think he's quite ready for that jump...
he's not ready. sure he's good but he has alot of things he needs to work on. why leave early if you wont be a first round pick
Personally, I prefer "Eat 'Em Up Tigers" as performed by the homeless guy outside of Comerica Park using his cup of change.
Manny Harris has a draft bio on ESPN. I didn't hear anything about him leaving early. Is this ESPN ranking all good college players or did I miss something?
Wouldn't the qualification of "good" eliminate Manny Harris?
The kid was the best player on an awful, awful, team. I think he can definitely turn into a good player, but he is not, today, a "good" college basketball player, and if he goes pro, he may as well drop his application off at Foot Locker on his way to declaring for the draft.
Would it have been more appropriate to ask if ESPN was ranking all players that might enter the draft no matter how good or bad they might be?
I was merely joking. I can't think of a reason why Manny Harris would go pro, and I haven't seen anything that suggests the possibility.
BlueSeoul, that's not the 'fight song' tho. it's the cheesy generic song they play. it's equivalent to 'lets go blue.'
Stupid question,
IS the word "brah" the same (and pronounced the same) as the word "bro"?
I hear bro sometimes in NYC, but it's pronounced like it sounds.
Thanks all.
"Brah" is pronounced as written. But is synonymous with "bro". Watch something like Dog the Bounty Hunter for a good explanation.
yes I am also Musket Rebellion.
Go with Christ, brah.
I are totally, uncontrollably obsessed with MSU.
ziiiiiiiiiing
I Are Serious Blogger is lame obvious troll.
its always funny to hear OSU/State fans comment how we are obsessed with them.
I have new post up on zone blitzing, if anyone is interested....
God dammit Gsimms zone blitzing does not sound like offensive line play to me.
someone handle jacked the hsit out of me the past couple days. i've been in florida, golfing. i'm not musket rebellion, however we went to high school together and he is a good friend of mine. what are the results of the tourney pick 'em?
Dex, im waiting for a night when i cant sleep, and the dish is out to do that...
How do I know you aren't being handle jacked RIGHT NOW? HUH?
Nobody ever appreciates the hog mollies.
Manny Harris = Jamal Crawford
I don't think so.
If someone guaranteed Manny the #8 pick, he would be gone yesterday. Manny != Crawford.
dex: that's a true conundrum. who can you trust when you cant trust anybody? (sounds like the tagline to a steven seagal straight to video feature)
i hate coming in second, expically to BGH, even in stupid tournament brackets...
damn you MSU, last time to pick you in an upset...
i won? nice. will someone post the results?
and gsimmons, hahah. other things i would beat you at include:
arm wrestling
beer drinking
being tough
bangin chicks
cutting wood
growing chest hair
salsa dancing
you are problaby right BGH, ive never been very good at any of those things... suprised you didnt put coaching football on there as well...
well, you'd totally beat me at football coaching. if i was a football coach, i'd call plays exactly like i do in madden. so yeah. maybe i could take you in basketball coaching?
BGH, you forgot a spelling bee in that list.
buuuuuuuuurrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
oh, im sorry, i thought that was a joke list... lol
in that case, erase everything except salsa dancing, and you problaby have a pretty good list....
According to Scout, the Manny thing has no legs. Beaver says something is up, but he's being his usual cryptic self. He did say that Manny Harris is not the news to look for, FWIW.
The Socut Neurotics are in an uproar, though. It's a beautiful thing.
1 big gay heart toby2k8 145 46 of 63 145
2 gsimmons85 g 130 42 of 63 130
3 DC Joe bigdlnjoe 124 41 of 63 124
4 Sports Are Meaningless Shuaghn Wooh 114 45 of 63 114
5 THE KNOWLEDGE hudst 106 43 of 63 106
6 south875 g0BLUE! 105 44 of 63 105
7 Jueeda Rules leteypetey1 95 42 of 63 95
8 Henne for Heisman * Wooha 93 43 of 63 93
9 formerlyanonymous just left formerlyanonymous 93 40 of 63 93
10 Chris B. christophermball 90 42 of 63 90
yeah add spelling bee....
wow, that wasn't even close. im just that awesome.
i came in second in my office pool. so pissed, it cost me like $180. the kid who won did not even pick the right tourney winner, but our scoring gave points for upsets. he won by one fucking point.
Actually,
Danielson makes a good point about the spread O being easier to defend when the qb isn't a dual threat. Remember, our defense always seemed to do pretty well against Purdue, who usually has a pass first spread with a more traditional drop back passer. It seems as though if your DBs are good enough to play press coverage on pass first spread teams, it creates a ton of problems for that type of offense.
BUT, the thing with the spread is that you can tailor it to the strengths of the QB. If the QB is a solid passer, but less of a running threat, youstill have the quick passes to guys "in space", and I don;t think that changes your blocking schemes too much. You also have the direct snap to a running back, and can use some reverses and screens more. And most QB's seem to be able to run just enough to fake it here and there to use the option/qb run as a surprise.
Now, if the QB is a great runner, but a so so passer, well then, he's Pat White.
jay,
not sure who you are talking too. But yeah you are right... obviously if yoru qb can run, it makes the defenses job tougher....
as great as the pats are. If brady ran a 4.3 they would be even better...
not sure who would argue otherwise...
Jim Kelly, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Tom Brady, and Brett Favre would like to argue with your assertion that non-mobile QB's can't succeed at running a spread offense.
you lucked out big gay heart.
Thank Chris Douglas Roberts for his inability to make free throws.
Oh, Derrick rose too.
Congrats anways.
Jay: thre point of the spread is to get your athletes in space and let them make plays. Purdue doesnt have the caliber of athlete that M does, so it's not really a surprise that they played poorley against M's defense.
The thing you have to love about the spread is that Michigan's success will be based upon its players' ability to make plays. Isn't that what we were all bitching about with Carr: his gameplan limited players' opportunities to make plays?
Danielson's use of example is limited and thus, flawed. Pat white was a very special runner with a limited ability to pass and recievers who were often over-matched. Oregon lost because its coaching staff refused to make any adjustments, whatsoever. Belotti has had tons of talent in Eugene but little sustained success. RR is in a different league when it comes to coaching prowess.
Rodriguez responds to Tressel comment, more
Chris Balas
TheWolverine.com
Is there a gentlemen's agreement in the Big Ten when it comes to recruiting players who are committed to other schools? "Only among the gentlemen," Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel said recently in taking a thinly veiled shot at Michigan head coach Rich Rodriguez's recruiting down the stretch …
I'm very interested in what Roddy said.
IMO, there is only 1 gentleman in the big ten.
And that is the expiring dinosaur himself.
Rodriguez seemed caught off guard when Michigan Sports Weekly host Doug Karsch told him of Tressel's comments.
"Huh. I guess I'm not a gentleman," he said. "I hadn't heard that, but in that regard I guess I would be guilty as charged.
"I know as soon as I took the job there was a commitment to the University of Michigan that changed his commitment and went to another Big Ten school. I didn't blame the coach for doing that. Until the guy signs, he's out there, particularly if he visits. If a young man is so called committed to your school yet is still visiting other schools, he's not truly committed … he's just very, very interested. I think you need to understand the difference in that."
Rodriguez noted he'd been on the other side of losing commitments late in the game, calling it "part of the deal" and insisting "you've just got to continue to recruit them to the end.
"I don't get caught up in all that he said, she said. I've had to learn to develop thick skin in my years as a head coach, but I'm proud of the way we recruit," he said. "We certainly aren't going to break any NCAA rules when we recruit, but as far as a gentleman's agreement, I've never heard such a thing."
guys i just saw this great looking girl with tight dress pants and a cotton black shirt. I just want to bone her...man I just wanna so bad.
!!!!AHHAH
expiring dinosaur? I thought that was a sex act
If RR realized he was in the Big 10, he wouldn't pull shit like that.
I'm pretty sure I never said that non mobile QBs can't succeed in the spread, so, I'm not sure where the fuck you got that from, Chitownblue. Even more bizarre is you inserting fucking Joe Montana in the debate. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but, Montana ran the West Coast Offense in San Fran, which isn't the spread O. The point I was making is that its EASIER to defend the Spread when your QB isn't mobile, thats all. There are drawbacks to any offense, even the spread.
Tressel is a dump eating blow hole.
He is a gay Mr. Bean who just sits there with bulging eyes. When he talks, the world gets a little dumber.
Behind the scenes, he eats skunks and watches anime.
what are you people more excited about on Thursday
Frozen 4 action
or
Stanley Cup playoff action.
I'm leaning towards the Red Wings.
Tressel is about to experience the fun of the Double Pummel.
The SEC trounced him the last two years, and now Lloyd Carr is gone.
Whatever shall he do?
Uh, Frozen Four no doubt. One game elimination, and the championship will be settled by Sunday.
As for the NHL playoffs, now that they've begun, it'll be four hundred years before we know who the champ will be.
Jay, you said that running QB's made it more difficult. I'd say that QB's who can do both well. I don't see why Pat White, who is not a legitimate throwing threat, is inherently more dangerous than someone like Tom Brady.
And I inserted Montana, actually to make a point. Saying "Spread Offense" can mean one of about 5 billion kinds of offense that put 3+ receivers on the field to "spread" the defense. Like Bill Walsh did in San Francisco.
Kenny Rogers vs Dice-K
sox win.
Jay,
who would argue that a fast qb with a cannon arm is not better then a slow qb with a cannon arm?
Doesnt matter what offensive foramtions you run...
and the west coast offense, is a spread offense... spread just simply means, open formations... the spread is not an offense, its a philosphy of space. Different coaches subscribe to different theories on how to best take use of that space.
well said gsimmons.
I don't think you are going to see that much spread option with stevie or nick at the helm.
Seems to me the best way to maximize this talent would be to use the QBs arm strength and the WRs skills.
I imagine it kind of like being a two minute no huddle offense.
UM ran the spread against Florida this year and I consider Henne about as mobile as Rosie O'Donnell. (Too Soon?)
What happened to Rosie?
MRG, couldn't tell if you're busting my balls about the Red Bull air races, but I think it'll be sweet.
BGH, I call bullshit- I think it's been you all along.
Some NFL teams run variations of the spread offense e.g. Patriots, Titans, and the Steelers. I think that their version is called the spread flex. What I don't get, is the concept of running 4- or 5-receiver sets out of the shotgun such a recent thing? Hasn't it been done before?
I get why a run-first scheme is tougher to run in the NFL. What I don't get is why, according to Gary Danielson, the pass-first spread is so easy to stop. Is it because there are more CB's on the field to break up or intercept a pass?
I realize that Threet won't be running that much, but I would love to see him coached to the point that he can get out of the pocket and pick up a few yards when the play breaks down. Guys like Boeckman and Donovan from Wisconsin aren't track-stars, by any stretch, but were effective scramblers when they had to be.
HfH,
yeah probably true qb read option...
but the play action fake out of the spread gun, does look a lot like an option...
but in actuallity the qb is just play faking to the hb, just like he would do in a pro foramtion, before passing... best thing about it, is unless he is faking to an orbit motion, the qb will alwyas be facing the los, and his recievers, so there is less of a premium on great pass blocking, becasue the qb's can see the pressure comming, and get rid of the ball...
I think Threet and Sheridan will def. be able to get out of the pocket and scramble. I think they could do that before, so they of course should be even better at it after spring practice.
But it's unrealistic to just run an option play where Threet runs it downfield. If the defense clogs the running back, which the most likely will do, Threet is screwed because he isn't that fast. Though I heard he is elusive, that's not going to get you past speedy LBs.
I'm sure Orson will have this one on EDSBS by days end.
by unrealistic, I mean doing it half the time. Doing it some of the time might work.
@ Ninja - No ball busting at all. Planes flying 20 ft over the Detroit River at 250 mph is 100% pure colombian awesome.
Rod said in the press conference the other day that we're not even close to being able to play a game, so I'm hoping for a great summer.
I think the players will be more prepared this time around. I don't know what they were doing the week before the App State game.
No, I don't see Threet making a habit of running an option. I just want a little more mobility back there than bracing yourself for the hit when the pressure comes.
I would agree that any offense can and probably does adopt elements of a "spread." I do think, however, that 4 and 5 WR sets are easier to defend against when the QB isn't mobile, hence my Purdue comment. It is up to Rich Rod to figure out how to make this work until he has his type of QB at the helm that will allow him to run the spread-option. I hesitate to include any pro QB in a pro style offense in the NFL as an example of how the "spread" can work without a mobile QB. Consider the fact that Rich Rod has been studying Pinkell's offense at Missouri this offseason to try and figure out a way to work a tight end into his offense. Every pro team utilizes a TE in their offense, even if just in pass protection most of the time.
I think Kevin Grady will be great this year. When he's healthy, he is actually better than Chris Wells. No joke. So hopefully he can reach his potential.
The Rivals guys at the scrimmage said Grady actually played a decent amount as the up-back, in front of Minor/Horn.
where is Musket Rebellion?
this idiot came into the buckeyeforum and challenged us to a debate on football.
where is scum coward.
Someone left the door to the loony bin open.
Quick question: when you guys get anew job, do you solely rely on the things you learned from your past jobs? Or do you branch out, diversify the way things are done, adapt to your new surroundings? Speaking from past experiences, I've always been the latter. And I think thats the SOP. Jay, you seem to be judging RR solely on the merits of Pat White - that is, the way things were done at WVU the past two years. Pat White is a talented young man with a very specific skill set. RR has been lauded as a smart guy with adaptive mind. That's the reason he is in the position he is, and we are playing arm chair qb. Gsimmons has talked a lot about the intagibles of coaching, the touch and feel aspects of knowing your players and your program (pixie dust, lol). Rich is a stubborn guy in the sense he seems to trust himself, but thats a great thing. Winners will always win and until RR gives a us a reason to believe otherwise, we have to trust that. All this speculation is maddening because these "judgements" are based upon such a small amount of information and comparision that, quite frankly, are nonanalogous
It's very easy to track the physcial comings and goings of specific people on an anonymous comment section.
MusketRebellion is right........THERE.
buckeyechris: MusketRebellion is a lot of things, but not a scum coward. The sheer number of near-physical altercations that have arisen from his oratory are numerous, and never once have I seen him ever cower away from a potentially disatorous situation. It's admirable, really.
are you musket rebellion?
Name your challenge kid.
OMG buckeyechris, he's right behind you pissing in your Mountain Dew! Turn around quick! Seriously, do it. Now. Ooops, too late.
buckeyechris,
im your huckleberry.....
Has Brian ever thought of ditching halscan and going to a traditional message board format where he can have people reister? That would take care of all the anonymous posts and hijacking as well.
Jay you are a big fool, with a little package.
i'm not musketrebellion, but buckeye chris, i say we settle our differences over a game of UNO, like gentlemen.
Musket and buckeyechris are the Lincoln and Douglas of our time. Except if Lincoln was shot before the debates instead of after.
or virtual thumb-wrestling.
rock paper scissors
rock
Accoring to Tressel, you can only enter into a gentlemen's game of UNO with a gentleman.
paper
all of this anti-RR nonsense is a result of people being naturally biased towards those who wear wizard's hats.
dynamite with an uncutable wick
New post...
Great post, nice work Brian.
BlueSeoul-
Lame and unoriginal? Eat 'Em Up was written by the famous Bill Moffitt at Michigan State in the 1960s. Other bands have since started playing it, much like the hundreds of high school bands that play variations of UM's even lamer "Let's Go Blue".
Thanks for playing.
I call bullshit on you. Prove that he wrote more than just the lyrics, if that. (Just like you guys stole the music for your fight song.) I've only seen one other mention of such, and it was written by you on another message board.
BlueSeoul -
Here's a direct reference to Bill Moffitt writing Eat 'Em Up:
http://uhcougars.cstv.com/trads/.../hou-
trads.html
I don't know where you're getting your message board accusation from, but it wasn't me.
As far as "stealing music" goes, the "original" tune to the Victors was actually contained in the Spirit of Liberty March by George Rosenberg, written earlier in 1898. Borrowing themes is common throughout music.
Your desire to mock Michigan State is cute, but next time, you should try looking up facts. They really help when one is trying to prove a point, especially when you clearly have little to no musical background.
Now I like my marching band freaks like the rest of us, but when this thread moves to Sparty marching band freaks well then I just have to shake my head.
hahahha
smb=weaaaaak.
your 'proof' even says there's controversy over who wrote it and when they wrote it. Is that the best you can do? So your fight song was stolen from some jesus hymn, your eatemup rahrah was written for the univeristy of houston. PAAATHETIC. I don't have any desire to mock msc, your presence on here on a michigan blog is doing that by itself.
The best you can do is to say the tune from the victors is similar to the some other song? Similar aint the same thing as stealing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Victors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Mic...sity_Fight_Song
so our fight song was called the 'best ever' by JP Sousa and yours ... ??? Well, nice try.
There's a reason the media calls you guys lil' brother.
I remember back when Michigan first got the two large video screen scoreboards. sParty couldn't stand being so behind the times, so they also got a video screen. about a quarter of the size. and only one. HAHA lil' bro indeed.
"I don't have any desire to mock msc, your presence on here on a michigan blog is doing that by itself. "
Brian put up another MSU-obsessed post. Of course he gets attention from MSU folks... that's what he wants.
Talk about little brother syndrome... he took the time to write this post. "Look at me, look at me!"
I are not brian, I are blueseoul.
Not bad. Especially the bit about ignoring the hockey team (your rants about the Big House crowd being nowhere near as loud as it should be always remind me of Munn, where the average age of the non-students was probably about 73).
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