Team Oompa-Loompa Rulez!
Just when there was an arguement about to erupt over how Lyle Alzado REALLY died, a new thread starts.
Um, I freakin blow at HTML. Yes, I'm a retard.
@Jay
Lyle did not die of the AIDS. Sally Struthers got him. (IDK why Sally Sturthers came up...just figured I'd perpetuate it a while longer).
yay glendale school for headless boys!....britney spears attended the headless acadamey for girls (would've had to seen the new south park to get it)
I was all excited at the new post... then i read it.
at least we could be ashley olsen
CHARTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I posted this on the last thread but I want everyone else to read it.
I'm going to say this because I am bored and have time and also because I want to see who agrees with me. Please excuse the length.
I read Bo's Lasting Lessons and will use a lot of it in the work force someday. I love the tradition. I was always behind Lloyd. I am excited about RR and don't care about Les because he isn't here now. With that said:
Fuck Bo's morals and values. Fuck you if you say "he's not a Michigan Man" more than once a day. Fuck you if you know RR is a crook, even though he has done nothing to show that he is. Fuck all of you who think that we still live in the 70's and that you can win while still being morally and intellectually superior. You know who that makes you...Stanford. Fuck Stanford. This day and age it's impossible to be a student/athlete at a D1 football program. If you think it's possible, go to hell. I'm tired of everyone who thinks Michigan is going to hell because of RR. Who was in charge when all of Carty's accusations came out. Bo's protege. Don't give me this shit. Stop being moronic hypocrites that think you know shit. I'm not saying I want the Switzer Sooners rolling around campus. But I don't care if every player isn't a beacon of moral purity. Quit it with the "Bo's morals are gone" "everything Bo instilled is dead". I'm sorry, but that era is dead. The new era is here. Get on the train or get the fuck off the tracks. One quote comes to mind when I hear about the lost moral fiber of Michigan.
"Losers always whine about giving their best, winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Start fucking.
It surprises me how much we hear about the whole "Steriods killed Lyle Alzado" thing still. His personal assertion was that steroids killed him. That was directly contradicted by his physician, and subsequently pretty much every other medical study that's been done on the effects of steroid usage.
Before anyone jumps on a soapbox about how "Andy C. encourages steriod use!", let me just say "NO, NO, NO, and furthermore, NOOO!"
Steriods do indeed cause cardiac complications and liver cancer... probably the two biggest health risks. (Although, to hear the majority of people arguing, you would think that the worst side effects are that "Dudes grow boobs and their junk shrinks!") It's just that it's 99.9% likely that Lyle Alzado is wrong about the whole "I got a brain tumor because of steriods" thing. It just isn't supported by medical evidence.
In all actuality, I'm really just hoping that this long post will give everyone something else to talk about, besides Sally Struthers. :)
OMG, did anyone hear that BOREN is transfering!!!!!!
Keegan,
I love you in the most no-homo way possible. I've tried articulating that argument before, but I guess I'm not that articulate. Or angry.
God bless you, and remember...THOSE WHO STAY MIGHT BE BIG TEN CHAMPIONS!
So, no one wants to talk about basketball?
I thought Brian didn't do basketball.
Hello? Is this thing on?
I'm so universally ignored on here. Maybe after I win the Brian's Bloggers Brackets I'll start to get some respect.
JoeDaFan,
Unless you drive a Dodge Stratus, you will never achieve success around this comments section or any other walk of life.
I knew I'd get a response to that!
Thank you, Huss, thank you. I will go to sleep happy tonight.
Happy to help, and I hope you take my advice seriously.
I drive one. People are scared of me.
@Joe Dafan
some times comments get ignored just because of the time they are posted. Most of the comments seem to go up at night or early in the morning before the next post is up. So when you post a comment around 430pm - it doesn't get as many views.
So its not that you're being ignored, just posting at the wrong time to generate maximum interest.
However if it is just attention you crave you can always ask an Antonio Bass question or say RR knows what conference he is in - those topics are sure to generate some responses.
Don't forget to say things like
We would win more with Les Miles
RR is a crook
Terrell Pryor's inability to make a decision about what school he wants means he can't throw
and the winnah,
HAHA!!! you lost to App. St. Suck on it scUM, long live Tressell.
Oh, I forget anything with the words Chris Weber in them will get a fire started around here.
"you can always ask an Antonio Bass question or say RR knows what conference he is in"
... ah yes, the classics!
The other one that will usually get a pretty good response:
"Hey, I don't have a Scout.com account... could someone out there give me a copy/paste of all their premium info?"
That always sparks a fun debate!
Keegan and Andy - thanks for the additions - another fave - "the spread can't work in cold weather - what will we do when it snows?"
I agree, fuck Stanford.
Stupid best athletic program on the planet....
well, obviously not SUPERintelligent algae
Don't forget the ever-popular "The pizza at Cottage Inn sucks!"
Keegan:
Quoting "The Rock" is +100000 in my book. Well done sir.
Daniel
Unfortunately it's near impossible to do the people's eyebrow over haloscan.
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Yay numbers! Good post Brian.
yes, keegan, except next time quote it properly please:
"loser always whine about their best"
no giving included. yes i'm so bored at work i'm correcting movie quotes...
Anon,
Much appreciated. I hate when people screw up quotes, so I should be held accountable.
http://threenout.blogspot.com/
why do people think Wisconsin is going to be in a BCS game?
Can some one please help me on this.
Others:
"Sam Mcguffie looks slow."
"Martin's team mates don't celebrate with him - I think he's an asshole."
"Pizza lacks top-end savoriness."
http://thewizardofodds.blogspot....notre-
dame.html
FAT Charlie is at it again.
JHS - Wisconsin has like 14 sweet RB's.
Kenny is cheesed out of his f-ing mind!!!
For anyone who does want to read the whole Charlie article here is the highlight:
"It was also revealed that Weis invited groups of players over to Casa Crewcut for dinner in the offseason. 'The man can cook,' safety David Bruton said."
No shit that fat bastard can cook!
I am actually surprised he can cook. It's usually dangerous for people that fat to cook because the food usually doesn't even reach the pan yet alone the plate.
JHS,
Wisconsin to a BCS game is like the Cal will beat USC gig. Every year the same teams get thrown out as possible "sleepers" and they continue to only get 8 or 9 wins. It aggravates me too.
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/
..._and_my_co.html
RR Response...
Sally Struthers thinks Keegan needs to learn how to form an opinion. And that bitch is awesome.
Holy shit. R2 said "this is not my first rodeo," which begs the question: Does he even know what conference this rodeo is in?
Nothing ticks me off more than this, "Pizza lacks top-end savoriness."
That just isn't true...are you trying to make me cry??
Ninja - that rodeo comment is further proof that RR doesn't know what conference he is in. This is his first Big Ten Rodeo, but he keeps acting like this is a big east rodeo - I knew we should have gotten Miles, we are going 4-8 this season, maybe 6-6 if Antonio Bass can get healthy, Mike Martin becomes a team player and McGuffie speeds up.
RR answers Boren complaints in, of all people, Carty's article this afternoon.
JHS,
Who else from the big10 would you give a chance to be worthy of a BCS berth. PSU was his 9th next likely team. There is no one in the Big10 other than Wisconsin I give a chance. As you read they have a fairly friendly home schedule.
Carty lacks even bottom-end readability. Kind of like Drew Sharp.
I'ma use that "this is not my first rodeo" line though, that kicks ass.
@Formerly -
I don't see the B10 getting 2 BCS teams just for the reason that we have suffered 4 BCS beatdowns in the past two seasons.
Wisconsin has no QB, yeah they have a favorable schedule (seems like a UW tradition) but I do not see them getting an at large BCS bid, and there is no way in hell they win the B10 next season.
If they do win the B10 or get a BCS bid I will eat crow, if not I will bask in my glory
.
Yes
.
My sarcasm meter isn't working today. Are people taking this "rodeo" comment seriously?
JHS,
I would agree with that about only one team in the BCS, and unfortunately I agree with threenout that it will be OSU in the BCS championship.
@Formerly -
RR thinks this is a Big East rodeo, thats the cause for concern. So you're sarcasm meter might need a little tweaking.
Alright, I, like Boren, can't take this negativity. I quit.
Yeah I think OSU will be the B10 representative in the BCS - But I think they lose to USC, and lose one B10 game and end up in the Rose Bowl. They are gonna need a lot of help to win the voters over to make it to 3 BCS champ games in a row, after those last two tankjobs.
Word out of Sparty-land is that the president sent out a university wide email warning the students not to riot if State wins/loses over the weekend. Will the world really miss EL if it's burned down by Sunday?
I was in East Lansing in 1995 when they lost to Duke in the final 4 and rioted. I really think that they felt a responsibility to do so - they had freaked out 5 days previously when they made the Final Four in the first place. It was weird - it was a "riot", but at no point did I actually feel like I was in danger, in the least. I just sort of walked around and watched.
Jim,
I see Wisconsin as a BCS team as I think due to a lack of competition up there as well as a lack of BCS At-Large worthy teams.
A) The schedule is soft. Marshall, Akron, Cal Poly? Fresno is always a little scary but the Big 10 schedule should be able to navigate through w/ only one or two losses.
B) There is is a possibility of a decent QB in Everidge this year. Slight possiblity, but a possibility...
I by no means an expert at this crap. Just offering an opinion.
Besides... if the Illini could last year... anybody can!
They'd be my first at-large team to be left out FWIW.
FWIW: i really really DO think someone -- anyone will do -- should do a "new post" notification on the old thread ... i used to think it was silly, but now, feeling silly for new reasons, i think it's a wonderful courtesy.... i'll repost two of my more memorable from the last post...
Partial Re-Post:
"@ JHS: thanks for the reply to my post last night... I repeat the gist: losing an O-Lineman like Boren does NOT mean that MI has a problem like ND had in 2007. Boren is replaceable (assuming RR knows what he is doing; which CW clearly does not)."
(and, in case anyone else is freaked out, here in Chicago, there is a thunder and lightning snow storm...)
If they do win the B10 or get a BCS bid I will eat crow, if not I will bask in my glory
@JHS:
I think I have you beat on the offers. Some jackass said he could predicted English taking over for a year and "holding Miles' spot as HC" back in late November, at which point I offered to shit a live chicken if this ever happened.
Partial Re-Post:
"Oh, and one final thought before going to get some grub... to those who are concerned that Boren will go to tOSU... not up to Boren and I doubt tOSU would take him (unless just as some sort of "trophy"); a former MI O-lineman would bring too much "drama" and potential for just plain ole disaster; can you imagine if Boren's out there for tOSU against ... well, anyone ... and he screws up and the QB is knocked out... wow, the peasants would be chasing him down like Frankinstein; imagine something like that in the MI-OSU game... Cols Dispatch "WAR"-sized headline: "TRAITOR BOREN GIVES MI WIN!!"
So, not to worry... Boren will be playing somewhere "safe" and out of the B10...
thursday ANOTHER name | 03.27.08 - 5:45 pm | # "
Repost:
"@ Ninja... loved the S. Struthers post... (and, on a completely unrelated sidenote about how formatting matters: I first popped on MZone and just skimmed through the comments.... i saw the SS name in your post there and skipped it... my brain went: too long, see what others have said/are saying... then on here, the way Halo formats (at least on my computer), it didn't seem too long and I read it and enjoyed it... very interesting that!)... anyway, good post... LOL
thursday ANOTHER name | 03.27.08 - 5:38 pm | # "
that is all; grub is/was good...
"I by no means an expert at this crap. Just offering an opinion."
@Threenout:
NEVER show weakness on this board dude. You are an expert at everything, no matter what, until someone proves you wrong, at which point you A) point out any grammatical errors in their valid post. B)Make fun of them until they leave and/or cry. If this doesn't work, then deny, deny, deny and claim thread-jacking.
and be sure to say something about the decline in family values as you leave... big grin
@thursday ANOTHER name:
Yeah- decided to repost it over here- I was up at 5am this morning b/c I was sick last week and my sleep schedule is all F-ed up, and somehow my thought process at that time = Justin Boren--->Yeast infection---->Coffee--->Sally Struthers?
Yeah, I don't get it either.
It is all clear to me now. RR, recognizing the awesomeness of all things blue, realizes that for tUoOS to exert its recent dominance over UM, they must have a spy working on the inside. He sets up an elaborate ruse wherein Boren quits over some BS like "family values". Boren goes to OSU and tries to discover the spy. He experiences great psychological stress living as a lowlife spunkguzzling Buckeye while a cat and mouse game ensues as each plant tries to figure out who the other is.
In the end, Barwis shoots them all in the head.
was good... enjoyed it... just was sooo funny how I skipped it on the MZone version of Halo because of the way my computer formatted it... i found that interesting...
LOL @ mooseman... and @ Ninja... glad you're feeling better
Is Boren going to Cinci?
Can you please skip basketball and go straight to calling out Boren for being a backstabbing, soulless twat? okthx
I heard some ESPN radio guy talking about WVU's defense under Huggins, and he said that under Beilein WVU automatically conceded offensive rebounds to the opposing team under the basket, and just concentrated on getting back on defense. Supposedly Huggins has WVU going after each rebound like maniacs by comparison, and he was saying this is a large part of the defensive improvement. I haven't watched any WVU ball under Huggins myself to know whether he's accurate, but his comments were pointedly derisive of Beilein, all but saying that JB's brand of defense was wimpy, girly, and unassertive.
and Jack Nicholson screwed Sally Struthers standing up in "Five Easy Pieces."
i would like to see tOSU lose another nat'l championship. they have a good chance. it would be sweet if we gave them their only loss...
@Keegan:
While I'm having a little trouble deciphering what your argument here actually is, I think it merits a response.
I agree with you when you say that people are overreacting to the changes being made under Rich Rodriguez. However, I think you too quickly dismiss the reason why Bo Schembechler is considered by pretty much everyone to be one of the best coaches in any sport ever; it wasn't because of his bowl record.
The "Bo Era" may have passed, but it sure isn't dead. Bo Schembechler turned down a number of jobs, including some in the NFL, because he believed Michigan was simply BETTER. Not the football program, mind you: the University.
As a soon-to-be alum, I sincerely hope that each and every coach that comes through here respects what we stand for as a University and as a community . What does that mean, you ask?
It means that we should ALWAYS strive to be a cut above the rest, even Stanford. If you ask ANY football player who played for Bo, they will tell you that "moral purity" (doing the right thing) is the MOST IMPORTANT thing. If we're going to win, we're going to do it the right way.
If you advocate morality and good character taking a back seat to winning, then you do a disservice to the entire University. You may not care about our reputation, but I do. There is a reason why people look up to Michigan and not Miami: because we understand that character is what is most important.
With that said, I don't see any reason why the hiring of Rich Rodriguez means an end to the recruitment of players with good character. He's read Bo's book and he's talked to Bo's players. And I can GUARANTEE you that Rich would agree with me and what I've just said.
Toodles.
So 3 months and no games into a new regime, we're ready to pass judgment on that coach's regime.
Great.
It means that we should ALWAYS strive to be a cut above the rest, even Stanford. If you ask ANY football player who played for Bo, they will tell you that "moral purity" (doing the right thing) is the MOST IMPORTANT thing. If we're going to win, we're going to do it the right way.
You thickheaded thundertrout. It's over. "Doing it the right way" was tossed out the window about the same time Bo stopped coaching. Michigan is sleazy like every other major university, just not at as much. And check out the grad rates of those guys who've been starring bigtime for this football program the past 20 years(read: mostly black guys). It's pathetic. And that was all under Bo's compatriots.
If you advocate morality and good character taking a back seat to winning, then you do a disservice to the entire University. You may not care about our reputation, but I do. There is a reason why people look up to Michigan and not Miami: because we understand that character is what is most important
What do you think other universities advocate? Nazi appreciation days and kitten-killing gay sex orgies? How many players at other schools skeeted on doors like our good friend Larry Harrison? Everyone I know at UM has told me how much of a pothead Mario Manningham is/was. Michigan is EXACTLY the same as every other bigtime school in the nation - we just have the added benefit of pretending our football players are actually part of the greater, 4.0 sportin' student body(whom all post here with their law degrees).
The moral high horse you claim that we sit on is transparent: People look up to us? Sorry, no. People look up to the University of Michigan as an institution. Not as a football program(at least, not anymore. Everyone else has caught up and some waved good bye). As a football program, I think most people would be more fond of how...oh, I dont know...RichRod catapulted WVU from bottom-dweller to national, top 10 contender in a matter of a few years. As opposed to the lead-blowing, 4-losses a season, taking solace in 'co Big ten-championships, OSU's personal gimp that Michigan's become.
But hey, we have morality and good character right? My ass.
Oh, and Miami has achieved far more success than we have recently - with about as much criminal behavior. And I'd venture to say their black grad rates are no worse than ours.
But hey, they all walk with a limp and sport dreads and gold grillz. We have moral fiber and high character they could never achieve.
Word on the street is that Van Bergen will be the next to go.
fyi: espnu will be available via sopcast (22668) this weekend.
Sally Struthers approves of Hess.
And that bitch is awesome.
i think if michigan opened up against the knicks that one might go down to the wire
Michael,
The problem I have with your argument and anyone else in the same realm is that it's not possible. Yes, we all want morally superior coaches and athletes. I want a pink pony, cupcakes and shit that comes out in gold bars. But it isn't happening. Yes, I'm sure RR would say, and maybe actually does want to be morally superior, but it isn't possible and he knows it. News flash: most of the best football players are not great students, they come from a rough home life and they were usually passed along and let to do whatever they want. So, with that said, if we want to compete, we need those kids, which means they don't change too much when they come here don't expect kids who are going to win the Noble Peace Prize. All you talked about was Bo and how great he was and his players moral superiority. My argument is that persona and attitude is gone. You can't win like that anymore. It's way too competitive and too much money is on the line for AD's, coaches and players to worry too much about morality and values. All you did was reiterate the misguided views that have been floating along. "Bo's spirit isn't dead" The only thing keeping it alive are people wishing it still was. I love UM and think that it does do a better job at educating athletes, and I do think they care more about doing the right thing. But don't cry about being perfect students and perfect people, yet pissed when the kids who do that, don't perform on the field as well as, say the Hurricanes circa early 90's. Your argument continues to be the "We can win with great character" mine is "this isn't the 70's, wake up" You can disagree with me, but most on this board and those who really know CFB (I'm not saying you don't)but people who know the dynamics of CFB would agree with me. This isn't just at UM, it's everywhere. Is it good? I don't know. Is it bad? Probably, but it's supply and demand and you can't fight economics. That's the way the game is headed and UM fans can either fight it and be pissed off an claim moral superiority after OSU kicks our ass or go with the flow and and start winning.
I've heard and subscribe to the quote: "Those who don't change with the times, will be swept away by those passing by" or something like that. UM was being swept away and I hope that RR will change that. But with that change, will come changes in other things as well. I don't think UM will become less of a school, but it needs to quit thinking it's sooo much better of a Football program.
By the way, I didn't address other sports because I don't give two shit about any other sports.
My response was better. keegan=the fail
The 'crose enough' video at the beginning of this post made this shitty day in Chicago 100000% better. God bless you sir.
Go Brue!
I think Keegan just got handlejacked by Bill Simmons.
@CaliWolverine:
Dude, thanks for pointing that out- I almost missed it. those commercials rock.
God, did I really sound like Bill Simmons? I apologize. My point is, UM > Everyone is not the best way to look at things. The group I am preaching against is like the guy who dated the perfect chick and after she left, held every other girl to that standard. RR might not be as amazing as Bo, but I'd still hit it. And right now it's the only thing lying naked in my bed, so I guess after 18 Icehouses, I have no choice. That's how I look at it.
Huss,
Your response was better, I am not patient when it comes to voicing my opinion so what I write is a cluster fuck of verbs and random nouns.
God, I just reread that and I was on one hell of a soapbox towards the end. Jesus, I hate myself.
I created Sally in my NCAA08 Wash St. dynasty. And the bitch signed with Idaho.
Fuck Sally Struthers.
Basketball talk? ... go back to hockey please!!
we just have the added benefit of pretending our football players are actually part of the greater, 4.0 sportin' student body(whom all post here with their law degrees).
I'm RIGHT HERE!
Ok, you got me, I didn't have a 4.0
@ThreeNOut
I really respect that you came to a thread of another blog to defend/explain your Wisconsin BCS point. Very nice move on your part.
Side note - I hate Roy Williams and UNC.
Yeah, I meant to tell Threenout that coming here was cool. Props to you sir.
Keegan,
I meant more by word-count than tone, but now that I reread, I was right on both counts. Sally Struthers approves.
Overheard at MI practice session:
RR: OK all you motherfuckin slow dipshit linemen...I want you to give me ten... right fuckin now!
Boren: (Huff puff) I'm try'in coach but it's hard to push 310 lbs after all that pizza.. and by the way ...could you tone down the language a little bit please?
RR: Jesus Christ you goddammed pussy, what do you think this is, a Lloyd Carr butt fest? That's ten sprints right fucking now for you cock sucker.
Boren: Ok coach.. I'm running as fast as I can. Oh, and could you not take the Lord's name in vain please?
O-line coach: All right assholes, lets line up and run the fuckin Jackass-right play.....Jesus Boren, I said Jackass-right, don't you fuckin know your right from your Goddamn left?
Boren: Sorry coach, it's hard to pick up all these new schemes so quick. Ahhh, could you cut the swearing a little... it's not really conducive to building a family-type atmosphere.
O-line coach: What the fuck are you talking about asswipe? This is MICHIGAN FOOTBALL not your fuckin playpen. OK children, you can thank your buttfucking brother Justin here for a few extra goddamn wind splints. Now move it!
Boren: OK coach, I've got the plays figured out but do we have to go without those huddles? Man those were a nice breather. And by the way, could you maybe not yell so loud...especially those naughty words.
O-line coach: Jesus fucking Christ what is wrong with you Boren. What a Goddamn panty wipe. I don't give a rat's ass shit about your tender ears.
Boren: Oh fuck all you ass holes. I'm outta this shit hole you bastard. (Stomps away)
Five days later in Jim Tessells office:
Tressell: Come on in. God bless you my son. What can we do for you.
Boren: Oh sir, I'd like to play football At Ohio State if I could.
Tressell: Oh how wonderfull, you seem like a nice young man. We could use someone like you in our family.
Boren: This is like heaven, I can tell I'm going to love it here. When I was at Michigan it was not like a family at all (Sheds a tear or two)
Tressell: Did you say you played at Michigan? What the fuck do you mean soiling my office with your Goddamn presence. Get the hell outta here and don't let us see you sorry ass again!
Anybody catch the "Boren left because of a lack of family values" article on yahoo sports?
BOYBlue:
No, what did it say?
I hate family values.
Ninja,
I pinched my scrotum for the tone in that post.
OSUTroll - that was pretty funny - keep up the good posts like that and you can drop the "troll" from your handle.
@Ninja
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
id=3314282
Here is the link to the family values story.
http://blog.mlive.com/jim_carty/
..._and_my_co.html
That is RR's response.
@JHS
Ha Ha Not likely, I still plan to get under your skin occasionally. Glad you liked it but it was kinda hard to write cause I seldom swear.
Anyway, glad you liked it. I doubt it would be appreciated much on the OSU boards.
OSUTroll-
I agree with JHS.
The only thing you missed was the part where Boren says "My vagina hurts." Or have we reached the point where that's just implied?
Keegan-
I hope you used pliers.
http://blog.mlive.com/jim_carty/
...plus_years.html
King Carty has a new article up, seems like it is actually pro RR.
JHS:
I was being completely and utterly facetious. Honestly, did you really think I'd missed that? Especially after my Sally Struthers/Boren has a yeast infection story? Thanks for the links though, in all seriousness.
"But we're not going to apologize for being demanding".
That says it all, folks.
You guys getting Xavier/WVU up north? I am stuck with the Wash St. crapfest
Rodeo???
and when you buy the cheapest wireless router at wal-mart, MM on demand doesn't work so hot
Seriously, regarding Boren, I don't want him at OSU. If you want to leave, fine, but don't trash the "program you love" because of your likes or dislikes. Was a cheap shot at the coaches and the school. (Although I'm sure it was deserved).
That was serious?
TUBES!!!!
http://www.channelsurfing.net
Check it out.
Mlive-
"Wings forward Mark Hartigan will be rooting for his alma mater, St. Cloud State, in the NCAA hockey tournament. He also wouldn't mind seeing top-ranked Michigan upset by Niagara on Friday night. Hartigan was a Hobey Baker finalist for St. Cloud State in 2001-02. Told the Huskies were in the same regional as top-ranked Michigan this year, Hartigan bristled.
"Shocker," he said. "When we were in St. Cloud, we were rated higher than Michigan and were supposed to play Michigan at a neutral site, and it was at the Yost Arena."
The Huskies lost, 4-2, to the Wolverines, and Hartigan apparently hasn't gotten over it.
"Last college team I played against," he said. "I hope they lose, 8-0."
eheheheh
my bad, that was from the free press
http://www.etxrn.com/junction/im...by%
20crying.jpg
Don't you hate people who say "my bad"?
I hate people, period.
WVU-Xavier is getting really good.
yeah they switched me to it a few minutes ago. xavier is going to pull it out. i hate bob huggins
@Ninja
"I was being completely and utterly facetious. Honestly, did you really think I'd missed that?"
I thought you were shitting around - figured I'd post the link just in case.
@Serenity now
"I hate people, period."
Cosigned.
Anyone who wants to watch games other than the one they have in their market check out that link I posted just above.
@JHS:
Yeah, I've just been salty lately, and pretty much an asshole all the way around, so my sarcasm is a little off.
@Ninja
"Yeah, I've just been salty lately, and pretty much an asshole all the way around, so my sarcasm is a little off."
Maybe your just an asshole.
lolz, not that theres anything wrong with that.
Anyone else remember when UM used to be in the tourney? Those were the days.
You people make it sound like being an asshole is a bad thing.
Okay guys,
I should have said this in my first post, but here goes. I'm arguing all of this in the context of reality. I understand that there is a paradox which exists in football in America. What do we know?
1) The NCAA is the de-facto minor league for the NFL and NBA. If you want to play basketball or football professionally you have NO CHOICE but to play in college. Those are the rules. This means that the NFL and NBA get to train their athletes FOR FREE because "they're not professionals."
2) Potential football players thus come from all walks of life: rich and poor; urban and rural. A very substantial portion of these kids come from desperate situations. You hear of coaches who visit homes with dirt floors, etc. We all know that if you're poor, chances are that you don't have access to the same type of education as the rich folks. That's a tragedy, but it's fact.
3) All Division I football programs must deal with this circumstance.
THIS is where my argument comes into play. I am not questioning the morality of taking kids who are not "academically qualified" to attend Michigan and play football. I think these kids deserve it.
Huss, NOWHERE did I say that UM was perfect. But I will tell you that a similar 7 month investigation into Ohio State would yield much more interesting results. The Ann Arbor News reported NO incidences of academic misconduct and NO NCAA rules violations. It didn't even make ESPN and, as we all know, they report anything.
Within the context of what society has handed us, Michigan handles academics better than the overwhelming majority of DI schools. In Columbus they don't even have to go to class; the difference is that the media won't even touch it because they simply don't care. They would rather just keep winning.
If you ask Lloyd Carr, and I've recently had the chance, he will tell you that in his opinion Professor Hagen is a a "tremendous and well-respected person."
Huss, you claim that we bring in the same type of people as every other school; I agree. So why is it that Michigan players haven't been all over the off-season headlines? Arrests, etc. Do you think it could be because we have support mechanism in place for our athletes? Do you think THIS could be what people mean when they praise how Michigan gets things done?
We are (essentially) taking the same kids as everyone else. The difference is how we keep them out of trouble and build them a people. This is the tradition I'm talking about. Why do you think Lloyd Carr is one of the most respected coaches in the nation? I'll give you a hint: it's not because of his bowl record.
If what you're saying is true then:
Michigan = Ohio State = everyone else
Really?
Those were the days. Many, many, many days ago. HDTV hadn't been invented yet. Lloyd Carr was a genius.
@Micheal
"I'm arguing all of this in the context of reality."
In my reality we have a coach who doesn't know what conference we are in and runs a system which won't work in Michigan winters.
I do how ever agree that LLoyd was respected not because of his bowl record but because he was a classy guy. IMO (later in his career)he was respected as more of a individual and as a man who was loyal to his university/players/coaches more than he was as a coach.
WVY-Xvier coming down to the wire. 64-62 Xavier.
"Maybe your just an asshole."
Maybe you're just an asshole.
Fixed. Because I'm THAT asshole.
ha!
Hell of a game.
Ryan Van Bergen might be the next to leave. He was recruited as a DE, a position we are very thin at. Some of the coaches have asked him to try switching to O Line for a while to see how it works out and, supposedly, he wasn't into that at all.
JHS, can you define "Michigan Winter" specifically in relation to football.
This talk of his offense not working seems a little far fetched, we don't ever play a game in 6" of snow, and if the weather sucks all types of offenses will suck. My two cents.
And we don't ever have a home game in late Dec or early Jan!
Why is anyone a big deal about "Michigan winter". With global warming and all.
(sarcasm)
@Orginal C
My "Michigan Winter" was in jest. A running joke.
@Ninja
I guess "your" and "you're" typos happen 4 beers into the ncaa tournament.
Why do you people here have such arrogance about the B10 as if it is a million times better than the Big East and that RR has no idea what he is getting into?
You want to know what rodeo he has been in?
1.) 2006 sugar bowl vs. Georgia (win 38-35)
2.) 2007 gator bowl vs. Georgia Tech (win 38-35)
3.) More or less, 2008 Fiesta Bowl vs. Oklahoma (win 48-28)
Big rodeos, big wins. Need I say more?
Cool, i wasn't sure if you were joking or being serious, comments retracted!!
In my reality we have a coach who doesn't know what conference we are in and runs a system which won't work in Michigan winters.
JHS:
You really believe this? I thought you'd been kidding all this time. Really, the winter's hardly ever come into play. The UoOS game last year, yes- but in general not so much. R2 has been successful everywhere he's gone, and if you look at the record of plays at WV it was pretty run heavy. unless the field is sloppy I think it gives a much better chance than being pass heavy.
@MTS
lolz - all this conference talk is a joke - just mocking the fact the some people actually think the B10 is soooo much better than the Big East.
Lighten up people. Do other teams message boards have this much infighting?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/
0,2...,342099,00.html
"Apart from speaking Australian now, I'm pretty all right, you know."
Ok JHS, I thought so.
And you have beer! Totally not fair. (I'm fresh out.)
@Ninja
All jokes aside - IMO RR runs a run based system which will excel in the shitty weather conditions.
When Joe Tiller brought the passing spread to Purdue - the media all asked him about how did he think it would work in the Big Ten weather. Tiller who was previously at Wyoming - said basically - what you don't think it snows in Wyoming?
@Sabado
G'day mate!...Now piss off.
I have martinis and beer. Anyone want to drop by, you're invited.
Ok, I thought so all this time. Maybe my sense of humor is broken, too. I know what I need- Jager! Anyone know a liquor store that delivers in East Lansing?
The Boren saga continues...from Freeps.....
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80327054/
1054
What did they do to him, made him strip naked and then canned him in front of everybody...cold war KGB style??!!
HT: Wingedhelmet!!
@JHS
Yeah, sorry I'm a little stressed right now. Sometimes it is hard to pick up on the sarcasm.
"And you have beer! Totally not fair. (I'm fresh out.)"
Thats why I buy in bulk.
"Anyone know a liquor store that delivers in East Lansing?"
Any party store worth its salt should have a liquor license unless the E.L. has different laws than Macomb County.
@Ninja
- Sorry just realized you said delivered - don't think it is legal to deliver alcohol.
@MTS
-Its cool, no harm no foul, figured I'd explain it was all a joke, don't want to make you more stressed out.
Wow. I get alcohol delivered to me all the time up here (Montreal, Canada).
Looks like Xavier will win this one. Great game.
Yeah - hell of a game, it looked like WV was dead in the water early in the game.
@ Original C:
Seriously man, all their innuendo is just shitty, and will only fuel speculation that he has big, sore vagina.
FWIW, I get alchohol delivered here in Chicago. In Ann Arbor, Campus Corner used to deliver kegs.
There's nothing like going to the fridge for a beer, panicking that you might run out, and remember that you only need to make a call for home delivery.
I think keg delivery is legal - but I'm not sure I can think of one place in MI that will deliver a 30 pack of stroh's and a handle of popov to your door. My only guess is why no one would try to tap that market is because it is illegal to do so?
bullshit call on that charge.
I have an inside source in the AD. It seems that when they were interviewing the previous coaching staff to determine who would stay, a word association test was used. Fred Jackson was the only one to appropriately respond "motherfucker" and "pussy" to every word thrown at him.
And those weren't the right answers?
I think its safe to assume Boren's little brother wont be attending UM.
Lets hope Helmuth lives up to his potential.
Yes, from what I've been told some guy off the street with Tourette's almost got the asst. head coach job.
Golfclap to Mooseman. Well done sir.
They used to deliver beer in Oxford, but I don't think they delivered liquor. Where's BGH when you need him? anyway, I'm w/out wheels tonight and it's f-ing cold, so i guess it's a one way ticket to Soberville.
JHS,
A liquor store two blocks away from me will deliver for a $10 minimum charge. It may not be strictly above board, but they'll do it.
You'd think Tennessee is coached by Fulmer tonight. I am loving this.
Yeah I'm not sure what the deal with Tenn is tonight, - they look like shit.
Yeah you'd think someone would have done it in MI if it was legal. Hell, I might start my own private beer delivery company here in East Lansing, Spartyville would eat that UP!
Yeah Ninja - seems like that would be a big money maker especially in a college town - so my only thought is that it is illegal because no one is doing it.
The Tennessee volunteers don't know that they're playing in the Sweet 16.
Fuck I'm drunk. Anybody ned theyre lawn cut yet or some shit i could do round the house for cash?
You now, I bet I could make a grand or so just doing it on Graduation Weekend and finals week. Buy a prepaid cell phone and ditch it after the weekend. That could totally work.
Ninja - like I say - it ain't illegal, until you get caught.
Grab a prepaid, hit up the kinkos, distribute some flyers, mark up the price, reap the benefits.
Just don't hire Andy Moeller.
wat's in Yagermister anyways? Fuckin A, I think my liver died.
Herbs and desperation, my guess.
Ok, so let's think this through. I'd need a prepaid phone, which you have to have a D.L. license to get, right? So I find a homeless dude or some other shady character to buy it. Run the flyers at my office or at a Kinko's out of town, then pay a few kids to distibute them on, say Wed. or thursday for the weekend. Only to houses so they're not floating around.
yup, I think I'm gonna become a mini-criminal.
You'll be the Rosa Parks of beer distribution.
anybody gota spare battry for the X9000 virtual reality porn helmet? how about yer shrubs?they need a trim? could use five or 400 bucks.
Ninja just make sure you use cash - no credit cards, don't want to leave a paper trail.
Which is decidedly better than being the Helen Keller of beer distibution.
Did anyone mention that Boren wrote an open letter to the Michigan Daily? He was really vague and just said his emotions towards the team changed or something like that.
I think it just said "My vagina hurts, please send Sally Struthers with some Vagisil."
It must've been one big emo letter.
@MechE
If that is the article that mentions boren left because of eroding family values - then ya that was seen/discussed.
MATW had some nice inside info on the Boren situation - worth reading.
http://michiganagainsttheworld.b...en-
context.html
know what? I'm on the fence about RR-ultimately the proof's in the pudding. Giving him the benefit of the doubt. Because at the end of the day, when you peel back the layers of the onion, you're only as good as your last win.
Clicheman,
Godwilling, our player will give 110% and leave it all on the field.
We need a Boren youtube with My Chemical Romance playing in the background.
I just spent the last 5 minutes looking for the name of an emo band to add to that comment. That's how old I am.
I'm thinking we do one with "everybody hurts" by REM. That's like the whiniest song ever.
When at I was at UMich, Sgt Peppers delivered alcohol to your place; they never carded and I just tipped well to keep the service coming. They would deliver anything, including kegs. I'm not sure if the gig is still going nowadays...
Ninja- THAT is fucking funny.
Cliche Man,
I just feel forunate. You know, b/c I'm only one man. Really, I'm just happy I could pull that one out at the end. My comment wasn't pretty, but a win is a win, so I'll take it. I'm also thankful for you guys, because there is no "I" in "MGoBlog". I gotta give you guys a lot of credit, you tried hard, today just wasn't your day. This is something I dreamed about as a kid, and I'd like to think I've silenced all my critics. I'm a throwback, and the heart and soul of this team. I'm not cocky, but I'd like to think I'm as good of a commenter as there is in this league.
Most of the time I just try to sit back, and let the blog come to me. I try to make the commentors around me better. At the end of the day, I'm just blessed to have been given the chance. God bless. Oh, and HI MOM!
You have to watch out for GSHB...you never know which way there going. Also, the no look passes. Oy veh!
Nice list. Always entertaining. Just think, the student-athletes play at WVU now were brought in by Coach B.
Other than that, (Seriously, in my eyes UM can do no wrong) we have to be the worst college basketball team 6,000+ in the nation!
D.M.I-BLUE
I knew the mgr's at CC and Blue Front when I lived in the old Beta house, used to get kegs of Molson for $60 delivered.
Good times. I think.
Andy Moeller was a regular.
I appreciated that MATW blog...except for that stupid "Those who stay will be champions" fluff at the bottom. arrrrggggh living in '69.
So he really did leave because he was a pussy. Considering how roided up OSUs roster is, I don't think he'd be welcome there either. Honestly, outside of Penn State - the last beacon of transparent morality and stubborn ineptitude in college football after we made a deal with the deal..er hired RichRod - I don't think he'd be welcome anywhere.
Seriously, I hate to quote Dan Hawkins again...BUT THIS IS DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL! THIS IS THE BIG TEN! GO PLAY INTRAMURALS, BROTHER!! How fucking difficult could training possibly be? A ragtag group of 5'4", 130 lb Little Rascals rejects seemed to adjust fairly well to the insanity that is Barwis at West Virginia. I've heard horror stories from my friends up at UF who hate...HATE...Urban Meyer, his assholeishness, and his batshit crazy practices. But guess where that has gotten Florida?
I say turn it up one more notch. We can't afford to have any more players who think its reasonable to eat an entire pizza every night or whine about difficult workouts and practices. Jesus christ, Boren will be the next Manny Wright if he ever makes it to the NFL...he'll break down and cry during his first NFL practice.
deal with the devil* oy
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadb...&
autoplay=false
Beano Cooke has officially lost it - this must be seen to be believed.
That was the most frightening clip I've ever seen. Why'd you post that, JHS?
Three things I swore I heard:
ND will win AT LEAST 9 games.
The Irish will beat Notre Dame(I'll attribute this to dimentia)
Some strange, insane rant about Charlie getting nicer.
After hearing that the Irish were gonna be Notre Dame - I had to post it to make sure Beano went nuts not me.
that beano cook clip is hilarious. it's as if some guy wanted to make fun of beano cook. Weis will win a championship, ND will win 9 games or more (if the Irish beat Notre Dame), and Weis is a great coach. wow. i am still laughing.
Just wanted to stop in and say that I concur with Huss' and Keegan regarding current football realities.
Amen gents!
I just checked in to find this big, long, laborious post about Beilien and our suck ass basketball team.
Are we REALLY going to disseminate WVa's current success as a glimmer of hope for our team? Beilien may or may not pull this turd out of the fire. In the end, I couldn't give two shits.
I think I'll head up to watch spring practice tomorrow. I hear it's a "big" scrimmage.
friday, glorious friday!
hold on -- we have a basketball team?
Talk to almost everyone who played for Bo and they will tell you the guy was a complete asshole. Even after his playing days were over, my brother still didn't like the man. But he got the boys to play HARD.
There was a time when teams HATED playing Michigan because they KNEW, win or lose, they were going to be banged up and bruised. Playing Michigan used to take a TOLL on your team. I remember numerous opposing teams and coaches making those types of statements. It will be nice to get that aspect back again.
More from the Columbass Dispatch... http://www.dispatch.com/live/con...2G.html?
sid=101
be polite to people, be nice. it isnt that tough. a nice guy can win a national title. you're gonna win a national title on the way to being a nice guy. you're from new jersey, and we can make some exceptions. even tony soprano could be a nice guy some times.
Bo, Bo, Bo, yawn.
"This is not my first rodeo, and I think if you went back and asked the majority of guys about their experience playing in our program, they'd feel pretty good about it."
What?! And people wonder why Justin Boren complained about the erosion of family values?? I bet this is really Jim Carty recycling an old Gary Barnett quote in an attempt to slander the program. Damn you Carty!
So any bets on today's post? Hockey preview?
sorry, that wasn't meant to praise Bo. He sucked as a strategist and always lost his bowls games because he was so fucking predictable.
On a related note...FUCK MIKE BOREN.
Caup, you're always so strident. If your complaint is that Boren should have just kept quiet on his way out the door, I agree. Taking a potshot on his way out was kind of shitty.
However, if he wasn't happy, and disliked the coaches, I have a hard time blaming him or his father for leaving. You say that "everyone yells like this" - well, this kid has played football since he was like 8. His father PLAYED for Bo. So, if you have a father and son who, between them, have probably played 40 years of football, and, in their opinion, the conduct of the coaches is something they haven't seen, wouldn't that suggest that everyone DOESN'T do it?
I'm not saying RR is wrong. Again, everyone is motivated by different things. This method, clearly, didn't work for Boren. Whatever, it happens. It doesn't mean we should be "fucking" anyone.
FWIW, Mike Boren did played for Bo (ie, the "talk to anyone who played for Bo" comment). Bo may have been an asshole. But if Boren thinks that whatever RR did was bad, I'm thinking it's not just what Bo did.
Bo is dead. can we quit talking about him? Do you wonder why Alabama has never really regained the status they once had? Because everything sentence since was "what would Bear Bryant do"?
If you want to cast blame on anyone, blame Carr for sabotaging the Les Miles hire.
Okay, the Dispatch article linked above is HAHAH FULL OF SHIT!!!
Bo Schembechler often berated and belittled players mercilessly in front of the whole team. He made guys cry, the ultimate humiliation. He did not then "build them back up." He expected the kid to sack up and prove he wasn't a pussy.
And the next guy Bo "pats onthe back" will be his FIRST. Schembechler NEVER used positive coaching. He was aways yell, curse, threaten. He didn't change his appraoch for any individual player.
Bo coached by pure intimidation.
Under Carr, deep down the players knew that if they lost the game, Gramapa Lloyd would still love and admire them.
Under Bo, if a player didn't perform he would throw them under the bus, benched and forgotten. The kids knew this so they played like their careers depended on RIGHT NOW. It was a stressful and terrifying existence for all but the most supremely talented players back then.
The notion that RR is more arrogant and dismissive than BO is LAUGHABLE!
Seriously:
What Would Bo Do?
And a player (Mike Boren) that played for Bo would disagree with what you, someone who did not, says.
If what you said is true, then, honestly, thank fucking god what we have is nothing like Bo. You're describing a pathological lunatic who would never succeed in recruiting a fucking soul today, because no one would deal with that.
Yeah, my posting style is to bring it strong or not at all. Sometime I regret what I post, but life goes on.
Mike Boren's comments disgust me. This is a guy who has a really short memory. Bo called him "Boron" all 4 years.
Having said that, if what RR did was so heinous, just fucking come out and SAY exactly what it was instead issuing nebulous, scathing press releases like a couple of primadonna douchebags.
And honestly, if you think that style of coaching is admirable, I'm terrified for any children you may have.
Or employees you may supervise.
DP,
Why would I blame Carr for that? He should be thanked. Hiring Les Miles would have been awful(but pretty good considering the other candidates at the time).
He's the Larry Coker of LSU, except he's got damn fine coordinators that make him look better. There are no redeeming qualities about him as a coach, except his undying love for Michigan - and I'm really glad we don't have another 'legacy' hire at this school. Instead, we hired one of the 10 best coaches in America, no questions asked.
I'm actually excited for Michigan football. Every year prior, I got excited but knew we'd blow it somewhere. This year there is just something that gets me excited.
I think its a damn shame that in prior years I figured Michigan would blow a game or two. It shouldn't be like that and I'm ashamed. I look forward to RR to do something with this program, if anything, to wake it the hell up.
Go Blue.
Dude, my brother player for Bo. I was his roommate for 3 years while we were both at M, so YEAH I have a really good idea of exactly what it was like to play for Bo. It was horrible. There was no fun.
I think your words "pathological lunatic" are pretty accurate. And no, Bo wouldn't be able to recruit anyone in today's world, just like Bobby Knight couldn't get anyone to play for him the last several years.
caup '91:
Did I read before you ran track at UM? I ran from 1986 to 1990 (walk-on quarter miler/IM hurdler).
What did you run and when were you there?
It's funny because I estimate M would actually finish sixth in this tournament, behind the Knicks, Duke, Team Avery Queen, Team Armenia, and Northwestern.
We often forget that the private lives of "Great" men are really f--ked up. Bo had a screwed up private life. He was a complete a--hole. He sued his own son. Even Ghandi refused to give his wife antibiotics because it would undermine his spirituality and she died because of it. Stop looking up to Bo as this "Great" man, he had a lot of flaws. We need to stop holding Lloyd, Rod and anyone else associated with Michigan to him as a standard.
I think that everyone other than Richard Hatch knows that coaching is a little different than parenting.
The players loved Lloyd, but I think that they also wanted to play well for him. I thought that the problem with this season was illustrated by the picture of him with the team in which Shawn Crable is giving him bunny ears. They all grew too comfortable. I'm sure that Bo would never stand for that, but both coaches probably had huge impacts on their players' lives.
It is understandable if a quiet guy like Boren didn't like the departure of the father figure Lloyd, but Boren didn't need to take a swipe at the Michigan program on his way out. Even some Buckeyes seem to have found that classless. Naturally, JfB's father is going to stand by his son's decision; it's his choice.
Tim, I agree, Boren's departing salvo smacks of immaturity, and he should have kept his mouth shut - same with his dad. All I've been trying to say, forever, is that Boren's departure is not indicative of being "soft" or a "pussy" or anything. It's indicative of him being unhappy with where he was, and who was coaching him. And if that was the case, it's better for him, and better for Michigan that he leave. It's hard to fault to him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b...h?
v=bOmQJhHfGf8
bo is up in heavan with god and the angels making birthday cakes for orphans.
To clarify my earlier posts, I find very little about Bo admirable. chitown, I think you misconstrued my colorful description of Bo's regime as an implied endorsement. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The Boren's statements to the press disgust me because they slam the program without providing even the slightest bit of concrete information. To me, that's horseshit.
Blue in PA, I was a walk-on 800M from 89-91. Heik was my coach, great guy. I didn't walk-on until my Soph yr.
chitown, I disagree. I think that it was more an instance of a father standing by his son's decision, whether he likes it or not. It's not a matter of spoiling him. You teach a child to be independent and make his own choices in life. If so, it would be hypocritical for him to refuse to accept his son's choice.
Sure, it's alarming that Mike probably didn't like what JfB had to say about RR, but even if Mike would have been more comfortable in his son's shoes, his attitude toward his son still might have been "If you are really that unhappy, then do what you think is best."
I don't know if that's true: I don't know the Borens. But I am not assuming that Mike Boren is as unhappy with his Michigan as his son is.
I was disagreeing with the notion that Mike's support for his son's decision means that something must be foul in A2.
Caup '91
Heik was a great guy. My coach was KB.., another great guy. I talk to my son in KB's Jamaican accent all the time... he loves it. I'll never forget, as a frosh, asking KB the stupid question "how should I run this one KB?" before a race. He got a serious look on his face, looked me in the eye, and said, "OK... Here's what I want you to do. Go out hard, maintain the pace, and finish strong." Then he laughed and walked away.
From Lancaster Eagle (FWIW):
"Justin Boren, Mike's oldest, graduated from Pickerington North in 2006 as one of the Panthers' biggest athletic success stories. An offensive lineman, Justin signed with Michigan - Mike's alma mater - and quickly made an impact. He started 13 games in 2007 and was projected to be the Wolverines' left guard this year.
But he walked away Tuesday, leaving behind new coach Rich Rodriguez. Justin, in a statement released to the Ann Arbor News on Thursday, said the family values cultivated under former coach Lloyd Carr have "eroded."
The Detroit Free Press reported Tuesday that after the Wolverines' first spring practice, Justin was having difficulty adjusting to the conditioning demands of Rodriguez's no-huddle offense and the tongue-lashing coaching style of the new staff.
Now there's speculation that Justin is interested in transferring to Ohio State, a move Mike supported in Thursday's edition of The Columbus Dispatch. OSU also is lobbying hard to land Zach Boren, Justin's younger brother and a linebacker at Pickerington Central.
Like Justin, Zach's rise hasn't been without controversy. He started his career at Pickerington North, but halfway through his sophomore season, he bolted from the Panthers (who were 1-3 at the time) for Pickerington Central. The move was approved by the district, and he and Mike moved into a house inside Central's district, temporarily leaving behind Hope Boren (the family's matriarch) and two younger siblings.
The Tigers, meanwhile, advanced to the Division II state title game in 2006 and were 11-1 in 2007.
"It was just a move I had to do," Zach said in November. "You can't really feel guilty about something that is going to help your future, can you?"
So what's a parent to do? Support quitting a team or a program so as to improve his or her child's future? Or teach the child a lesson that success and personal satisfaction aren't always measured in victories and scholarship money.
The critics that began to circle the Boren family when Zach made his move are howling again. When the going gets tough, they say, the Borens get packing. But is it a fair criticism?
Athletes in Justin Boren's situation are labeled as quitters and malcontents. It's unfair to expect players to form, with a new coach, the same relationship they had with the old regime. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't.
The next step for the Borens is the same one they took ahead of Zach's move - talking, evaluating and re-adjusting. That transition was handled as smoothly as possible, and there's no reason to think Justin's won't be."
Tim, very well put.
One thing that really chafes me about Mike Boren's comments is that if you went to Michigan then UOS is simply NOT AN OPTION...EVER.
My bad...I meant to post just the link...need to get more sleep.
Tim - I merely said that Mike statements could mean that he thought something was foul in Ann Arbor, not that something neccesarily was. I don't take that as all-out truth. Obviously, perception is in the eye of the beholder.
Where's Dex to demand that nobody infer anything from anybody's comments ever, as inferment is not rooted in the fact-based world that all of us must, must, must operate from?
This rampant speculation only enables those who wish to destroy America. Save us Dex!
Blue in PA, is KB not a coach for M's team anymore?
I always regret not putting some more muscle on and moving down to the quarter.
formerlyanonymous
impressive picking louisville for the elite 8.
very unimpressive for picking washington state to go to the final 4.
so you can definitely tell UNH and Maine are playing on olympic sized ice. It looks huge.
Thanks HforH. I figured I had to have at least one massive upset. I figured that would have been better. And if they'd beaten UNC, I think they could have used that momentum against Louisville. Then again I had no idea Louisville would have looked this impressive thus far. I'm still banking on Stanford and against Memphis.
I also figured that the Wassu and UNC game would have been closer.*
I think that Stanford will beat Texas, but don't count of Memphis...they very dangerous.
UNH takes a 1-0 lead over Maine with 13:38 left in the first.
And someone just threw a fish on the ice?
I can't wait until someone else commits besides willy campbell.
I also think Memphis, if they play Stanford will be at the foul line a lot as the two twins I'm sick of hearing about (but who I based my final four pick off of) will be all over them.
"If you want to cast blame on anyone, blame Carr for sabotaging the Les Miles hire."
omfg let it go already! If we had wanted Les, he would have come. He told BM as much, all we had to do was wait until after the NC game. He was pissed when we hired R2 because he thought this was going to happen. R2 is here now, Les is not, if you want to whine about how things were or who we could have had, get in line with Justin fucking boren. The coach we do have has lost 4 games in the past two years while utilizing inferior talent. The thing that kills me is that the same people who complain now will be the licking Richrods nuts when we're winning multiple Big Ten titles and an occassional NC game. Jesus.
Caup '91
No KB isn't coaching for UM anymore. He left a few years after I graduated. His son, Colin, was a stud athlete but I don't know what happened with him.
Interesting you say you should have moved down to the quarter. I have always felt I should have moved up. I guess the grass is greener...
penalty shot for UNH
missed wide.
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Brian,
Nice analysis of the WVU bball team. I think you're on track. Beilein emphasized his special brand of offense and is capable of recruiting the players to play it (and who are good enough to play any system). However, Beilein is not a defensive or rebounding oriented coach and UM's numbers there are unlikely to improve much (except to the point that the players learn to play the 1-3-1 effectively, which can be extremely useful in non-conference and tournament games).
Beilein will succeed at UM to the extent that succeeding means finishing in the top half of the conference, getting in the tournament and the probability of a run to the Sweet 16 or better. Beilein will not succeed at UM if that means conference championships, Top 15 recruiting classes, and overcoming Izzo's Michigan State.
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