west f'ing crazy virginia
can i vote for brian in the primaries?
is wvu saying "all your spread offense are belong to us?"
wow the tila tequila bit is right on with the WVU AD.
Tila Tequila? Tila Tequila????
Oh Brian...
i never thought RR would/could be compared to tila tequila. those WV folk have some attachment problems
Gotta say Brian, I never pegged you for a shot at love watcher, but that video as it relates to this situation is priceless.
i cant believe he said, "remember?" like any of us have actually seen that before... and if you have, well... ok but dont talk about it around me, or nod if you see me, we are not friends...
the tila tequila thing is so dead-on its scary. that psycho basically represents the entire WVU athletic dept. listen to some of those lines he says...
Holy crap. That video nails it.
Meet Ed Pastilong. and about 80% of West Virginia.
Bobby!!!!
haha nice gsimmons
The columnist who broke the "shredgate" story yesterday is being interviewed by Valente and Foster right now on 97.1 FM and 1270 AM.
also, i love how the mtv profile of that guy says he is a high school guidance counselor. man do i feel sorry for his students
ahahahahahaha... Tila Tequila... AHAHAHAHAHA... That was hilarious!
people that work in highschools are nuts, thats all im saying....
i cant see the video, ill check it out when i get home tonight...
Brian loves his charts, doesn't he?
I'm just curious why this is even a story. I work in a competitive (marketing/advertising/automobile) industry and when I've switched jobs, I ALWAYS shred or throw away my records. Seriously, what is the big deal here?
Why have I not watched this show more often?!!??
When you think it's all over, it's not. He punched a leaf. haha
Seriously, what is the big deal here?
TIA!!!!!!!!1111!
Err.....
TILA!!!!!!!!1111
I agree this has totally been blown out of proportion, but then again, I know nothing of the legal aspect of the shredage. As Brian and others have been saying, WVU is basically saying "we bet the info he shredded was important and scandalous...and he is a big jerk, so get him!"
I'm still basking in the warm glow of the smoldering remains of "Black Heart, Gold Pants" after Brian went all Colonel Kilgore on their asses.
That'll teach ME to take a feckin' lunch break.
Stay Classy, West Virginia.....jesus. Can they vote W back into office all by themselves? Idiots.
I'm bothered by the fact that RR used the same line Les Miles used about "misinformation"
1) "sorry mom, I'm cussin'" - like she didn't teach him that.
2) all those poor plants.....
The insinuation that he shredded evidence of NCAA violations is the most absurd. On one hand, they're saying "We know he shredded all our info about recruits, discipiline, S&C, etc!" and on the other saying "We know that he shredded information of violations, but we had no idea about the violations!"....uh, then how do you know that's what he shredded?
Click this link and think to yourself, "all your student record are belong to me"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/
wiki...87_Shredder.png
Exactly chitown. WVU doesn't want to find any violations, assuming evidence of such existed (which I don't think it did). They just want another shitstorm to both smear RR and aid their litigation against him.
I had never heard of Tila Tequila...and I'm 29 years old and a Umich grad. Is something wrong with me?
general question: on a scale of 1-5, how shady is the act of telling TP (others?) before your team that you're leaving WV for M?
a 2 or 3 i guess?
Please God just make at least one football game against wvu happen in the time that RichRod is here. I am dying to see this happen just once so I can see him coach this team to hang 70 on his old team. Anyone else agree? GO BLUE!
Whelp, WVU had better hope that Stewart works out. How would they ever be able to recruit an HC from outside of the program after this?
DanK - I'd say it's pretty gross. Not fineable, or a violation, but clearly not "the right thing to do".
DP, just google her name or check myspace sometime and search for her. she's the little asian/alien looking girl with the huge fake rack.
general question: on a scale of 1-5, how shady is the act of telling TP (others?) before your team that you're leaving WV for M?
It would depend on the circumstances. If, for example, Pryor was expecting Rod to call, Rich wouldn't have had much choice. Not calling would be viewed by WVU fans as Rich deliberately stiffing a recruit to piss him off, while it would be dishonest NOT to mention he was leaving once they were in contact.
Since we don't know the circumstances of why the call was made, I'm withholding judgment on the matter.
I am an idiot when it comes to what shows are hip and cool but if every episode of that show is like that, I may tune in. I watched first without volume then went home and watched it again with sound. Oh my...they are both hilarious.
gsimmons,
I thought Tila Tequilla was some Adult Swim version of Hannah Montana at first so you can still look me in the eye when we never meet on the streets.
After sleeping on this story, I've come around and now agree this probably won't be a big deal when all is said and done.
As for WV, maybe they should've stopped TALKING about how RR was their first citizen and favorite son and started encouraging the WVU AD to take more ACTION as far as keeping RR happy.
WV's behavior really reminds me of my psycho ex-fiancee, who attempted to frame me for stealing her purse and cell. I wound up letting city cops search my place and had them escort her out when they couldn't find anything.
Jesus.
The WV Gazette columnist was pretty good on Valente and Foster earlier. He said that he doesn't believe anything will come of this legally or be investigated by the NCAA. The guy actually defended Rich Rod in that aspect saying that there isn't any evidence that he destroyed anything that could get him or WVU in any trouble. However, he did say that he believes Rich Rod has a significant ego and and felt like the WV AD didn't appreciate him. He also said that he believes Rich Rod shredded all of these documents to spite the administration. That was his main point. Why does Rodriguez seemingly want to hurt his former program and his alma mater? I agree with the columnist that this raises serious questions about Rich Rod's character and if he did this to his alma mater, what makes anybody think he wouldn't do it to us?
bluewolverine,
you actually proposed to a woman who was that crazy? She better have been smokin' hot.
Withholding judgement is a sane and rational response. There is no room for that kinda attitude here sir.
I still think he got hosed by his alma mater and their biggest booster came out on RR's side. Even calling WVU business practices a joke. So what if he legally shredded documents when he left. I would be paranoid if I was him and that they were going to go through his documents and come up with some crazy ass stuff to smear him with.
Jay,
I'm guessing you haven't known too many Head Coaches. They tend to be a tad on the vengeful side.
Go back to West Virginia, Jay. No matter what the issue, you'll claim Rod's character is the problem.
Keegan - sometimes you just don't know how much craziness resided until it's over. That's why I always prefer a girl to just go off like mad when you break up with her - it always lets you know that you made the right decision.
Keegan,
Nope, she was pretty average.
I'm sorry to say I just don't know much about women.
Studying in the grad stacks to survive electrical engineering probably didn't help.
Her old man was a big WVU fan though.
Jay, as was said ad nauseum yesterday, you only appear to complain about RR. We get it.
@DFRoweJR
In 1904, Fielding Yost hung 130 on West Virginia. I would love to see RR (new nickname TT?) beat that record.
October 22, 1904
Michigan 130 - West Virginia 0
Look it up!
ya know, a year or 2 from now, no one will care about how RR left WV. this story has legs b/c of a slow news cycle (read: offseason).
and the WV ADept is a total clusterf--k. nice organization you've got down there, hillbillies.
What RR did was just fine, whether that be shredding documents that were of his program and calling TP to let him know that he is coming to UofM.
***The real question is: How the hell can McGuffie be listed as only the #10 ALL-PURPOSE BACK by Rivals. I mean he is a frickin phenom. First he is a RB with unreal attributes.
Ht: 6-foot-0 (Events)
Wt: 188 lbs
Forty: 4.32 secs
Bench max: 355 pounds
Bench reps: 15
Vertical: 41 inches
Shuttle: 3.83 secs
Sparq: 104.85
racism!
White guys can't jump.
Chitown,
Just pull the Adrian Arrington and text her that you want to break up. That's what a real man does. Then change your number, move and tell your friends your dead.
blue,
take solace in the fact that I know nothing about women (no man does) and you will make way more money with that degree than I will. The old man is loving you now I'm sure
On a sad note the AA thing actually happened to a friend of mine whose fiance broke up with him with a facebook message.
What is new with TP per scouts? Any one with info?
you're right, McGuffie doesn't jump. he leaps over fools only to pull a 720 twist all while still talking $hit to whoever it was he made look pathetic. its all on tape. ball don't lie.
The dramatic piano over the last couple minutes of the video clip lifts that clip from amusing into the all-time classic comedy category. Well, the piano *and* the leaf-punching.
M Legend - there's a concern that McGuffie is too small, and his injury issues this season probably gave that concern more legs.
Chitownblue 00,
Sorry I'm not a pecker slapping excuse maker like you. While I was initially exicited about the hiring, after hearing how he called Terelle Pryor and Josh Jenkins and told them he was leaving for Michigan BEFORE HE TOLD HIS OWN TEAM and now the shredding of papers related to the football program, I have serious questions as to the character makeup of our new football coach. Maybe, just maybe, I happen to care about the reputation of our university and its football program more than you do.
Mr. Flood,
It would be like heaven for me to see a game like 130 to 0 against wvu right now. i now have a 4th college team to hhate with a passions behind ohio state, state, and nd. please God or even bill martin, make this game happen at The Big House soon. GO BLUE!
Good lord. 2/3 of the threads at the BGN Scout board are related to Rich. It would be funny if it weren't so sad.
TILA!!!!!!111!one!
Hey sorry if someone asked this already. Are any UM guys playing in the Shrine game??
It's not as if WVU doesnt have other problems... Apparently it handed out an unearned MBA to the governor's daughter. No, RR is the shady one, not the university...
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0.../849566-
100.stm
Jay,
Maybe, just maybe, due to the fact that 100% of your posts assume the absolute worst to be true, without any factual backup (no, you don't need to re-post the "anonymous source"-laden article that makes several preposterous accusations, as Brian details) you actually just want to be the WVU-troll masquerading as Chicken Little on our little spot of the web?
If you limit it do "RR called TP", I'd agree, that's somewhat sketchy, but I'm not going to throw him out for it. That's about ALL we know for a fact.
Rod shredded the records of all her other classes. Then he shredded Ed Pastilong's necktie.
Keegan-
Yeah, the checks are the best part of my job right now.
I live on the first floor of my building with two walls on the parking lot. Last winter I ignored her drunk dial and she came over to chuck ice at my windows for a couple hours. I'm hoping to avoid the Molotov upgrade this winter.
My New Year's resolution is to avoid inviting any new emotional black holes into my life.
RR destroyed the CIA-torture tapes, too.
CD-
I think the most important question about the MBA scandal is:
"Is the governor's daughter hot?"
post pics plz
k thx bye
i think it had something to do with the steriods he was pumping into the governors daughter....
Yeah, your right, Chitownblue 00. Because I question some things about Rich Rod's actions and his character, I must be a troll. What a bunch of bulls&*%#.
Chitownblue 00 = Officer Barbrady
"Move along. There is nothing to see here."
I like that that West Effing Crazy Virginian called out the chicks on the show and said, as a reason why the bisexual (and likely confused) host of the show should not pick them, is because the girls are "confused bisexuals."
Can't believe that didn't warm Tila's heart.
Shockingly, I think I've read even LESS compelling arguments from some of the Crazy West Effing Virginian posters on GBW boards.
bluewolverine,
molotovs are the dumbest thing ever. What a waste of liquor. Do what every good man should, date a stripper. They work nights so you can go out with the boys and they never have any drama or baggage. At least that's what I tell my self.
Jay-
Care. I care, too. But if you can't distill bullshit, or at least withhold judgment before throwing out the big QHC card (question his character), it makes one wonder.
A former WVU wide receiver was working on a software program for Mike Barwis to implement in the WVU weightroom so that data could immediately be entered into the computer system, rather than writing it on paper and entering it later. So most information probably still exists, but apparently the hard files are missing.
Jay...everything you have posted has been incessant repetition. We get your point, we think your point is idiotic. What else do you have to offer? If that answer is nothing but the same old stuff you've been posting, then yes, move along now, nothing to see here.
Jay,
I'm not a pecker slapping excuse maker, but I'm not worried that "he'll do this to us" because we tend to treat our football coaches pretty well. And we don't seem to break promises made to them either.
I'm starting to think that WVU has the mental make-up of Sparty. This is like when your friend gets dumped by some girl for another guy because he didn't treat her that well and he just won't shut up about how much of a bitch she is, even though he'd take her back in a second. Have some self respect and move on.
Jay, I don't know why you're singling me out for profanity laden rants when I:
a) was one of 6 people to call you out today, and one of more than that yesterday
b) never made any ad hominem attack on you
Try to have a little civility.
I'm not saying, Jay, that you can't question RR's character - you can do whatever the fuck you want. What I'm saying is that I don't think it's rational to accept an anonymously sourced article as gospel, especially when 70% of the accusations it makes are absurd on their face.
What I'm further saying is that the fact that you, on 3 occassions for the past 2 days, have shown up here and contributed not one thing other than "Guys, this is going to make us all look bad because RR is a slimeball", on the specious evidence that I pointed out suggests that maybe what you really want to do is convince us all that RR is scum.
kgh,
did you get my message earlier. about you email?
(continued)...
This suggests, Jay, that you have an agenda. Like a Troll.
gsim - I did, thanks for the heads up! I haven't been able to check fbook anyway today.
im way too old for facebook, feel kinda creepy on there, like an old pervert.... but hey, i am what i am eh?!
You're not old, greg.
ThWard - you vanished for so long, I was wondering if your wife put a ban on hanging out with your blog-fag friends.
sucks that the one guy's best friend was a snake in the grass
The video is priceless. Sad to say, this is a microcosm of what I now think of West Virginia people and the aftermath of the RR era in Morgantown. This is why I love this blog. I would have never seen that video in a million years if not for Brian.
You're certainly younger than me. I could easily be the mother of any of the current players, and in wedlock for that matter.
anonymous aid "How would they ever be able to recruit an HC from outside of the program after this?" and that is what I'm wondering. Isn't WVU worried about how they are going to be perceived by any future employees? "I lose a game, I'll get death threats, and if I go someplace else, they'll trump up bogus lawsuits against me." Great! Sign me up!
gsimm- you're the father of the mike barwis group
Jay=buzzkill, day 2 and counting
I feel guilty confessing this but I'm curious. I am the only non-UM grad/current student on this thing.
It is amazing how character above all else is coming to the forefront now that Carr is gone. Before it was do what it takes to win. Now it is do it the LC way, before we know if any wrong was even committed. Amazing.
That was supposed to be a question: Am I the only...?
Grad student grad.
Keegan:
Being a "Michigan Man" is a way of life - always striving for excellence, never settling for less than your very best, regardless of where you went to school. You're welcome here.
keegan, im am so not a grad, michigan wouldnt even accept my transcripts i was so far away form being eligible, and recruiting? yeah right... they were my dream, but my realitiy, can you say div 2?
hey wvu:
u madd??
current student here Keegan.
Keegan - at this exact moment, maybe. But not the only that posts here regularly. Regardless, don't consider it an issue, provided you're not an asshole, of course.
or could look at it like this - and maybe you will one day when Rodriguez flees the great lakes state 'by din of morn' - how would you like it if Carr/English/Debord left campus like Rich did? scrapping this/that and who knows what else?
put yourself in their shoes.
(copied this from comments below - sorry)
@ Keegan
I'm a USF grad so you aren't alone
oh nvm, i thought you meant are there any other current students that haven't graduated here. whoops.
Chitownblue 00,
I apologize for singling you out. That was wrong of me to do that. However, it seems as though that myself and a couple of others who are skeptical of Rodriguez are immediately thought of as bucknut or WV trolls. Nothing could be further from the truth. I just want to see our program back on top and know it is done the right way. I have no doubt in Rich Rod's coaching ability. I just can't help but wonder if he is having such a pissing match with his own alma mater, which he has professed his love for, what would happen to us if he ends up leaving one day? Admittedly, the contacting of TP & JJ before telling his own team is what has me really bothered. Michigan has always done things on the up and up when it comes to recruiting. That just seems shady and unethical to me. I hope I am just overblowing everything. We'll just have to wait and see. Take care and GO BLUE!
"lovable but functionally retarded West Virginian...losing his shit in spectacular fashion."
Now that's funny shit.
" I agree with the columnist that this raises serious questions about Rich Rod's character and if he did this to his alma mater, what makes anybody think he wouldn't do it to us?"
Well, b/c the athletic dept at Michigan is not composed of morons and will utilize protected data storage systems for files it believes are the property of the U.
Ever been down in the steam tunnels, Jay? You dont fuck with the U when it comes to their secret shit.
You know this making fun of WV stuff is great and all. But, how about a recruiting update, visitor update, where coaches are and what they are doing update. Just a suggestion.
I've interviewed Rod enough to know he's an egomaniac, so I think he was probably just spiting the WVU administration with whom he couldn't get along. I've stood next to the WV journalist who broke the story enough to know he's a jerk. The WVU President who dealt with Rod over the last 7 years and retired in Sept is one of my professors and is clearly bitter toward Rod. The video coordinator who assisted Rod in cleaning out his office taught one of my undergrad classes and is a blunt/rough guy (when calling on a female he would just point and say "girl"). Great teacher to have though... only slightly harder than a Jim Harrick Jr. class.
This story will go away. Rod and the administration went through an acrimonious divorce. Rod stuck it to WVU by shredding files. WVU stuck it to Rod asking for a declaratory judgment.
No, I go to Western Washington University right now. Their sports program is a joke. It's kind of small (14,000 undergrad) but it's a really good school.
chitown,
I'm not witty enough to be an asshole. I just like the inside stuff and getting questions about the team answered. No real michigan fans around here so I use the web for everything michigan.
Jay:
I'll accept what you're saying, but consider that maybe Rich left because the administrators at WVU are assholes and he just couldn't take it any more?
Getting out was an act of sanity.
I get the feeling that he has "come home to a place he's never been before," to quote a famous John Denver song.
i consider myself a "michigan man" for the following reason:
when kordell stewart threw that ridiculous hail mary, i cried. when my dad tried to console me, i punched him in the stomach and ran out of the house, melodramatically throwing myself into my mother's flower bed.
Jay- ask yourself this: Has our AD ever done anything wrong to our coaches? Has our AD not given our football coaches what they needed to succeed and given them a LOT of time to be successful (i.e. even if they lose big games a lot, they aren't worried about keeping their job and getting fired off of a knee-jerk reaction?)? If the answer is yes to any of that, then yes, I am afraid of RR doing "the same to us" as he did to WVU.
tennblue, for that john denver quote, you will recieve the barwis sand bag treatment...
This video may very well be the funniest thing I have ever seen.
I will laugh and make an underclassman carry it for me.
So what do you think Carr removed from his office before he turned it over to RR?
Then I'll make him do all the running, to. All while threatening to eat his soul.
chitown: no, my wife didn't put the kibosh on communicating with my blog fag friends, I just needed to take a 3 week nap after watching the "Peanut Butter Jelly" time video for 48 hours straight while watching W. Virginia game film. Wore me down. I'm refreshed, and ready for NLOI day, now.
Any word on facility upgrades besides the stadium? I had someone tell me that Herbstreit was saying on the radio a while back that Michigan's facilities (weightroom, locker rooms, etc) were in need of an upgrade. Not that they were horrible just to keep up with the arms race in college football. Anybody know anything?
Jon - Books from old Irish poets and 16th century literature. He had to shred the latter, didn't want RR gettin all educated n shit.
Keegan,
WWU?
That's ironic, because one of the coolest girls I ever knew went to college there!
The MSM is reporting that counsel for RR has lodged a motion to remove the case to federal court. The support offered in favor of the motion appears strong. I truly hope that the case gets removed from local yocal jurisdiction to an impartial federal judge. The bile-driven idiocy should terminate a lot sooner if it is and everybody can get on with the game of football itself.
Link to Rod's actual response. http://wbgv.wordpress.com/2008/0...files-response/
keegan the new weight room is fully stocked...
see the facebook group dedicated to barwis to see pics of the wonders it will do/has done...
all new equipment...
now as far as a new weightroom building idk, i love an old porrly lit weightroom, my fav sound in the world, is the clanking of wieghts....
bluewolverine,
Is she still a student? It's pretty cool up here since we are a lot like UW accept were smarter and not as stuck up. Are you in the area?
TILA TEQUILA IS NOT MY FRIEND
Charlieweisetc....
To clarify - that's the case about the buyout, no? There's no case re: the shredding....
This story will go away. Rod and the administration went through an acrimonious divorce. Rod stuck it to WVU by shredding files. WVU stuck it to Rod asking for a declaratory judgment.
Ding, ding, ding. Stephen wins. And makes me feel a little bad for all the toothless hillbilly comments. Just a little though.
i'm on board 100% w/ the "will we do it to us?" stuff. the M ADept is most certainly NOT a back-asswards group of inbred morons.
if BM allowed a fired/disgruntled employee back into the AD offices, i'd shite in my hat.
and it's not about hurting his alma matre....it's about hurting the current AD (pasterlong?) and the other jackasses who threw the red tape at him.
gsimmons,
Thanks for the update. I'm 22 and feel too old for Facebook so I don't use it either. Equipment and technology is all that should matter. I agree, my HS weight room was underground and had low ceilings and it was/is my favorite spot to work out when I'm back home.
Keegan-
No, I'm 29, so my friend Brooke probably graduated about 6 or 7 years ago unless she's in grad school. Last I heard she was married.
I'm actually in western NY, but I hope to get out and at least ski WA before I get too many more years and miles on my legs. Might look around for a new job too, but who knows.
West Virginia University Board of Governors v. Rodriguez
Case Number: 1:2008cv00041
Filed: January 16, 2008
Court: West Virginia Northern District Court
Office: Clarksburg Office [ Court Info ]
Presiding Judge: Chief Judge Irene M. Keeley
Nature of Suit: Contract - Other Contract
Cause: 28:1332 Diversity-Other Contract
Jury Demanded By: Plaintiff
22 too old for facebook....
god, im old
bluewolverine,
go to Mt. Baker, it's the best. Just north of Bellingham about 1/2 hour. I'm from Montana too so if you want some tips on where to ski there let me know.
who ever said tila tequila looked like an asian alien was dead on
Counts related only to breach of contract insofar as I know. Shred-gate is a mere private "probe." (I know where I'd like to insert that probe but alas there is only one available and so many deserving recipients.) I'll try and pull stuff later today through my ECF/PACER accounts.
Coach Simmons - I'm 40 and have a Facebook page, which I keep current with photos etc. You're never too old to be a tricked-out nerd.
Just to follow up on the facilities thing, the AD is also in the process of building a brand new indoor practice facility:
http://www.ns.umich.edu/htdocs/r...ory.php?
id=5966
gsimmons, I know dads who got facebook b/c of the Michigan recruiting group and some other Michigan fan groups their sons tipped them off to. It's not like you're on there pickin up hotties. It's not any creepier than any blog for that matter unless you're using it for creepy things...in which I will revoke my friend request. lol
The only reason for the relocation of venue is that RR doesn't want the case to be held in front of a local WV judge who may have tried to burn a couch in his yard, right?
opps,
uh kgh, disregard that email i sent you 10 minutes ago, and do not open the attachment!!
gsimmons-
I also know a woman in her mid-40s with a Facebook page. No big deal.
Keegan-
Thanks for the tip! Brooke actually was from Bellingham, seems like a cool town.
What else is in MT besides Big Sky + Moonlight? I don't know anyone who skis on my level, so I'd like to avoid double-occupancy without sleeping in a rusty van.
that was joke....
and unless hotties, include football technique starved michigan fans, im afraid nobody of that nature would ever talk to me, youve seen my pic!!!
lol
The only reason for the relocation of venue is that RR doesn't want the case to be held in front of a local WV judge who may have tried to burn a couch in his yard, right?
chitownblue 00
A succinct and fairly correct analysis if ever there was one ;>)
blue,
I'm from Kalispell, MT which is right by Glacier Nat'l Park. The big ski resort up there is Big Mountain. Whitefish is the town at the base of the mountain and it's pretty cool. Kalispell is 20 min. from Whitefish and might have cheaper hotels. Big Sky is south by Bozeman, it has the same skiing but has a bigger area to ski than Big Mountain. My dad was just at Big Sky and said it was awesome. Bridger Bowl is in Bozeman too and I hear is pretty fun.
When Michigan first got RichRod I remember seeing all of those comments (and few posts) about how much better that situation would be than getting Les Miles. So, now that West Va has gone all Maury Povich on your coach, how's he looking now?
If I don't respond immediately to your reply, don't worry, I'll be back soon from seeing our newest national championship trophy down at the athletics building.
Btw, why can't you guys beat Ohio State? Hasn't everyone else beat them?
Joe,
Where did that come from? Wow! That's all I can say to the most random troll comment of the year.
Joe - your team won the championship. Be happy about that.
Joe, what's your point? You saying that is the equivalent of me saying "wow, I'm so happy we didn't get Miles because of that pending NCAA investigation I read about on thejockrap.com".
joe, enjoy the trophy...
thanks for the analysis, im sure you were an important piece to the mnc puzzle...
Isn't LSU's AD an asshole too? Maybe not as much of an idiot, but definitely an asshole. I guess we took the worse of two evils wrt ADs, but damn I like our new ball coach. It'll be worth it, plus he's nearly 10 years younger.
it's snowing here in Atlanta. I can't wait for the drive home to see all the southerners freak out on the road.
Oh, congrats...good to know UM is still relevant to an LSU fan, even after said LSU fan's team just won an MNC. Sweet!
I'm sure this was posted already, but check this out they are starting to find all their documents...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com...s.ap/
index.html
atl blue,
thats the worst part about being inthe south...
of course i dont mind driving in it, but i am scared to death of the others driving in it....
NOTE TO BRIAN
I've pulled the federal case file contents for the action filed today. The exhibits include information from the initial suit as well as other interesting information. I'll forward this to you gratis via email if you wish to post it.
Post a request to this thread please.
I know I'm asking a lot, but was anyone able to listen to (and stomach) Valenti's smear job on 1270 AM?
Anything of interest or would Mikey have been better off broadcasting himself choking on applesauce?
MAKE PLAYS
Nah, I'm just having fun with you guys. Seriously though, West Virginia is an asylum. You guys may want to consider a secret service-style detail for RichRod.
@DC JOe - That is just too freakin' sweet, now isn't it?
I suppose that MUST mean that he was indeed shredding all of his notes on his recruiting violations and roids programs.
@DC Joe - that article is just absolutely hilarious.
"University spokeswoman Amy Neil said the WVU Office of Admissions and Records maintains grade and attendance records in a separate location, so no student-athlete's academic career is at risk."
She says it as if it were a major discovery that the office of admissions and RECORDS has a copy of students' grades and attendance.
Joe - Sounds like a good idea...we'll get Barwis to set that up, scare the shit out of Pastilong.
I found it slightly amusing too. Maybe they saw the mockery that Brian made of them and were like "We can't stand for being viewed as morons any longer" so some statements were made.
not worried about rr's safety for a couple of reaons,
#1 mike barwis
#2 mike barwis's wolves
#3 mike barwis' trained super strong lab animals....
#4 michigan is too far away form wv for wvu fans to walk
'Functionally' means the same thing as 'incredibly,' right?
Gsims,
#'s 3&4 are hilarious. 1&2 are scary because they are true. He's no joke man, no joke.
#5 I highly doubt WVU fans could navigate by map
Maybe the Office of Admissions and Records found their 4.25" floppy labeled "Stoodent Recurdz" lying around and breathed a huge sigh of relief.
The columnist who broke the "shredgate" story yesterday is being interviewed by Valente and Foster right now on 97.1 FM and 1270 AM.
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Because you'll get an unbiased opinion from those two D-bags.
charlieweis....
Does the WVU case accuse RR of destroying the CIA torture videotapes?
@ blue wolverine: I listened for 10 minutes and gave up. I really don't mind Valenti most of the time and I think he's often portrayed unfairly by Michigan fans. Most of the time, he's fair. However, today's conversation was ridiculous. Basically, the fact that RR shredded any documents, no matter how innocuous, is proof that he's a total douchebag. And Foster? Well, his blog entry sums it up:
http://info.detnews.com/redesign...cfm?
blogid=1418
If you didn't read it (and I don't blame you if you didn't) Foster basically paraphrases the Gazette article, then says that the incident should be investigated. Thanks for the journalism.
keegan,
yeah i know a bunch like him, s and c guys...
i think i actually met him once at a clinic... i know i heard him speak, but i was thinking we tlaked, but im not sure....maybe about 5 years ago
Not January 3, 2008 as some have reported:
December 18, 2007
Mr. Ed Pastilong
Athletic Director
West Virginia University
Mr. Pastilong:
I am informing you I am revising (strikethrough "I am revising" initialed "RAR" in parenthetical) my resignation as Head Football Coach at West Virginia University effective 12:00 a.m. December 19, 2007.
Rich Rodriguez
CC; (sic) Joyce Bucklew
I have no idea what a Tila Tequila is, but videos of rednecks flipping out are always funny.
Re: his resignation date.
I remember that he had announce 1/3. Then, on 12/18 all the WVU boards went on fire because they were convinced that RR was coming back. Then, at midnight, he passed on the last 2 weeks, and resigned.
gsim,
my HS S&C guy was a competitive power lifter. Guy was NUTS, but everyone loved his passion and you busted your ass for him anytime he was around, didn't matter if it was in the weight room or the cafeteria anything you did it was 110%. The team will love him I guarantee.
When you met Barwis did he do any push ups? I heard when he does he actually pushes the world down? Any truth to that.
Sorry if I start a Barwis/Chuck Norris jokes but I can't get enough of them.
Gsims,
Don't underestimate the redneck network of distant cousins. I'm sure some West Virginia fan went out for a beer, got lost, and eventually ended up in Michigan. All it takes is one call. These are, after all, a people not above defecating in the stands to show their displeasure.
http://deadspin.com/sports/gator...load-
226024.php
actually he was one of about 10 crazy s and c coached i met that day, thats why i dont remember.... they are all nuts, my best friend is one of them...
@chitownblue 00
Roger that. Still, it was effective notice for December 19 arguably.
ATL Blue
Yea I have a long drive down to McDonough from Dunwoody ahead of me tonight...
I prefer these lame snow flurries over a regular rain any day though.
@Joe,
When I lived in RTP a few years back there was a big flap about the Wolfpack fans defecating and urinating near their OWN seats at the NCSU home games.
Rationale: the lines were too long for the restroom
Guess it was worth it for them to see every second of Philip Rivers.
well joe,
then we will jsut have to put the ultra trained super human strength monkey on alert....
I think Pastilong's protocol titled "In case of emergency, like if we can't find the academic records of students" reads 1.) Smear Rich Rod's name and accuse him of stealing/destroying said records. 2.) Check files in the office named for said fucking records.
It's just mind-boggling to me that:
1) WVU can suggest that RR's shredded files were the single source for academic records, scholarship records, financial information into their football camp, etc, and NO ONE in the media actually questions this. If there's a flood in RR's office, and his paper-records get destroyed, the all information of them vanishes? Come on.
2) WVU can insinuate that RR may have shredded evidence of NCAA transgressions, and simultaneously contend that they have no idea what the transgressions may be. That's literally impossible.
Tila & that Bobby dude were on TV last nite - supposedly she picks him as the winner, then he dumped her a bit later. She was going "look at these ta-tas, who wouldn't want these?!" God, I need a life. . .
If Tila and Bobby can't make it, what hope do the rest of us have?
Black Heart Gold Pants most recent post refers to us as "Mgobots"
I like it and will embrace said mgobotism.
"god, im old"
Michigan has a problem. The WVU smear campaign appears to be working. Today on Rome I heard Dan Shaunessey and Mark Whicker, both of them saying that RR is basically scum and players going to Michigan should be worried that he'd be shredding their files. They have swallowed the WVU version of the story (sponsored by the Charleston paper) whole.
It's time for the University to put its reputation on the line and do battle with WVU -- if RR did not commit any criminal or unethical act. They have gone too far.
West Virginia is an embarrassment as a university.
Older than anyone here, I meant to say.
Not that it's a good thing. That I'm here.
Another question: If WVU contends that RR may have committed NCAA violations unknown to the school, isn't it the best illustration of "lacking institutional control," that usually lands a university in the NCAA Big House?
FlordiaGoBlue - Spot on. Michigan has to come out swinging because WVU is winning in the public eye right now, which can/will hurt recruiting if it keeps up.
Given that WVU is already locating copies of the allegedly missing docs, I think it's more and more looking like a smart smear campaign to ruin RR's recruiting efforts. The perpetrators know that eventually it will be shown to be hogwash, but it will take several weeks for that to occur. Meanwhile, recruiting is going on right now, and for the next two weeks every other coach going head to head against UM is saying "Ma'am, you don't want your kid playing for Rodriguez... he'll order Barwis feed your son into the shredder feet first. Hell, he'll bypass the shredder and Barwis will shred him with his own bare hands."
WVU won't go too far to talk about wrong-doing, because they're the ones that will pay the price in scholarships if the NCAA buys it.
If Dan Shaughnessy, captain of media ass-hats, hates us, I'll chalk that up a good thing.
They will forget about this by the time Nascar season rolls around. get it? rolls around). I too am a non UM grad/student. I was a military man right outta high school. One of the best nights ever was the last bowl win over FLA whilst in Pensacola. Good times.
I don't think this will affect recruiting an ounce. Kids want to go to a school that will help them get in the NFL - if that's Michigan, they'll come. This program won't be fined, sanctioned, or anything.
I saw something above about RR requesting change of venue.. anybody (mgobot lawyers) know if he has tried to argue he is now domiciled to MI to get this removed to fed ct on diversity grounds? I think he would still want a change of venue out of the district of wv (I assume any place that backwards only has 1 dist ct, if any) but it seems like fed judges would be less prejudiced (if by no other reason than attending an accredited law school) than whatever judges end up in butt-fuck county court in west virginia.
it's SNOWING in ATLANTA!
Anyone have a link to the info on the "found" missing documents?
Hahaha, that Tila Tequila thing was hilarious and apropos however pathetic that show seems to be. And no, I won't be watching in the future.
having to listen to this WVU crap is enough.
Gsims
What up my man. I'm glad you liked my suggestion for your facebook name. Can you put a word in for me to be the west coast regional officer?
Please advise.
Snowing in the ATL? Al Gore was spot on with the internetz, but his credibiity has taken a hit with his global warming stance.
I saw something above about RR requesting change of venue.. anybody (mgobot lawyers) know if he has tried to argue he is now domiciled to MI to get this removed to fed ct on diversity grounds? I think he would still want a change of venue out of the district of wv (I assume any place that backwards only has 1 dist ct, if any) but it seems like fed judges would be less prejudiced (if by no other reason than attending an accredited law school) than whatever judges end up in butt-fuck county court in west virginia.
This is precisely what was argued. If you google his name, it's the first article there.
I agree with FloridaGoblue that Michigan needs to do something. But I'm not concerned about the recruiting issue as much as I am about the reputation of the program (and of the school, generally). RR hasn't done anything wrong. I don't believe that he had any hint of a scandal while at WV, even though he did take some chances on some questionable characters (Pac Man, Henry, Devine). But he's being dragged through the mud by his scorned ex-employer and Michigan, whether it realizes it or not, is getting muddied in the process. This is ridiculous. Michigan and RR at some point need to speak up publically. If they don't, this crap will blow over, but people will always consider RR (and the program by association) shady. In today's idiotic soundbite age, whomever speaks loudest and last wins.
Anyone have a link to the info on the "found" missing documents?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/
ncaa/01/16/wvu.documents.ap/index.html
Random... but I just sent out invites to like the whole team to join the Facebook group.
Dan Shaughnessy and his shitty haircut, can kiss my ass, fuck that guy!
RR's change of venue to federal court is a good thing, the biased WV state courts would have fucked him over for sure.
So WTF happened to the guy at the end of the video who was in the ambulance? Did the dumb-ass WV guy kick his ass or something? Inquiring minds want to know.
Jesus H. Christ, I drive down to Metro and back and entire shitstorm appears. First off, Tila Tequila, have we decided if she is hot or not? Second, I just saw this on SI's site:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com...s.ap/
index.html
Third: Awesome job with the roast Brian. Iowa = Poop stained degenerates.
Fourth: This is all just stuff that will blow over. I'm not concerned at all.
new post
Tila Tequila video is fucking perfect.
BTW, I feel stupid now for reacting at all to the document-shredding story from yesterday. The more that comes out, the more this thing is obviously just another FU from WVA.
Talk about a psycho ex-girlfriend. They are basically saying "what, are we not good enough for you? We're plenty good enough for anyone." And then they are completely freaking out and showing exactly why RR was right to leave in the first place. Why leave? Because you guys are f-ing NUTS and you clearly have HUGE self-esteem issues.
That video was so totally appropriate it was hilarious.
Interesting legal question, though. If you are a coach, and you develop plays while at a university, does the university "own" those plays and the playbook? And if so, could you take those same plays to another university without asking permission?
Surprised that no one has mentioned this: IIRC, during one of his earliest interviews, RR said he's not "a computer person," or something to that effect. So he probably keeps hard copies of everything, and knowing that the University's files on a computer would be perfectly safe, he disposes of stuff that's unnecessary to keep.
Either that, or he's a dirty, rotten scoundrel.
Interesting legal question, though. If you are a coach, and you develop plays while at a university, does the university "own" those plays and the playbook? And if so, could you take those same plays to another university without asking permission?
S FL Wolverine
The usual disclaimers apply. I am not your lawyer, I am muffintop in Cosmokramerville.
It depends. If the U protects the playbook as a trade secret and/or registers it with the copyright office then the U can legitimately claim ownership in the playbook and, possibly, even the performance rights to the plays if reg'd under copyright. Note that it's possible to copyright some trade secrets without disclosing the substance of the trade secrets by filing redacted registration application specimens. In addition it may be possible to obtain method- and system- type patents on the methods and systems claimed in the playbook or related materials and, in particular, S&C methods which demonstrate tangible results. These may be of dubious validity in the current legal environment but does a coach really want to spend the money to be vindicated? No, most will fold, which is one of the reasons why you haven't read much on IP issues in sports coaching and training; however, given the increasing stakes in CFB programs, it would not surprise me if future IP claims against admin/coaches/players are made someday. I've prosecuted patents relating to teaching methods fwiw.
My uncle is a moderately big WVU booster. We have an open slot September 20th. Anyone have any suggestions as to what sort of apparel I'll be wearing to that WVU game? (Assuming they have a home game that day, their idiotic website doesn't seem to have next year's schedule available.)
My uncle is a moderately big WVU booster. We have an open slot September 20th. Anyone have any suggestions as to what sort of apparel I'll be wearing to that WVU game? (Assuming they have a home game that day, their idiotic website doesn't seem to have next year's schedule available.)
Next Year in Morgantown
I have ideas but will not serve as your own personal Dr. Kevorkian by providing them to you.
Screw it, I'm a reasonably big guy and I do have a death wish- bring em on.
Besides, I'm training Barwis-style from now until then.
@ S FL Wolverine,
I think that this is the same thing as professors developing course content at a university. The university does not own said content and the professor can sell it, take it to another place, etc.. In fact, a faculty usually packs up everything except for the files stored in the main office and sometimes even negotiates equipment that can be moved that he purchased. A university is different than an average workplace in this respect and the autonomy of the academic force is usually greater than other places.
Just my 2 cents.
Let me just say I'm a proud Michigan fan and I wear my block "M" hat to work every day here in Morgantown, West Virginia. Yes I get plenty of death stares but hey life goes on. I tell them all to get over it. Amazing how WVU fans can go from loving RR to hating him in a heartbeat.
I think that this is the same thing as professors developing course content at a university. The university does not own said content and the professor can sell it, take it to another place, etc.. In fact, a faculty usually packs up everything except for the files stored in the main office and sometimes even negotiates equipment that can be moved that he purchased. A university is different than an average workplace in this respect and the autonomy of the academic force is usually greater than other places.
A university *can* choose to own said "content" if it takes appropriate steps. Even to the exclusion of the author/inventor/originator. You are correct, however, that universities do not take these steps consistently, in part, because they have styled themselves historically as "open institutions." Professors in the social sciences receive different treatment typically than do academicians in life sciences and engineering areas. There is a trend though toward locking up rights where the money is via university technology commercialization and brand licensing offices. So be careful making assumptions based on perceived practices - the ball is moving. My 0.02
@ Anon,
Good point and understood. I was mainly referring to course material and not research output. As far as I know, the universities have not cracked down on making course material portable, aka workshops or textbooks or even taking content with you when you leave. However aCharlieWeisStomachStaple above refers to a case that I don't know about. They probably have the right, but at least for now it is not practice to restrict this. Though I am not a lawyer so will defer to others.
I see the course work as more akin to the play book question, IMO. However, they may be lax only because there is not enough money in teaching yet and it maybe the research parallel is more apt.
My 2 cents as an IP attorney: under U.S. copyright law, the employer owns the copyrights in (and indeed, is treated as the legal author of) all copyrightable works created by an employee acting within the scope of his employment. Thus, RR would be infringing WVU copyrights if, for example, he made unauthorized copies of school records and took them with him (e.g., address lists of prospects). I don't think personal notes would qualify. Destroying copyrighted works does not constitute copyright infringement, but might constitute a breach of his employment agreement if such an act was specifically prohibited. I agree that the bigger question is whether copies of what RR destroyed exist anywhere else; if so, then no harm, no foul.
This whole thing reminds me of the way the Senate Judiciary Comte went after AG Gonzalez: you fired six J.D. attorneys, you had the right to do that for any reason, but we're going to subpoena you and and see if we can find anything wrong, although there isn't a shred (excuse pun) of evidence to suggest it.
DFRoweJR
Asian/Alien looking girl .....*lol*
Laughing till I cried...So dead on
Jay
WolvinOhio,
Thanks for the info. Seems like you know what you are talking about.
Just wondering why faculty do not have thier university affiliations on textbooks in many ocassions and the university does not get any kickback on royalties on these. There seems to be a distinction with these works as opposed to research output.
And just so that this has any place on a football blog, what is the legal parallel to the football plays - coursework or research output or neither. Just interested.
asian/alien, I agree, but still hot
under U.S. copyright law, the employer owns the copyrights in (and indeed, is treated as the legal author of) all copyrightable works created by an employee acting within the scope of his employment.
Absolutely and positively F - A - L - S - E. You sweep with too broad a brush. Only a very limited number of copyrightable works fall under the work made for hire doctrine. Nothing connected to a college football program -- exceptions for campus/stadium maps or commissioned sculptures -- qualify. This is a very common misconception; you need to self-educate beginning with Title 35 itself. You would flunk the copyright course I taught if you made this argument and I have actually flunked students (Dean supravened to keep the money flowing, natch).
Well, let's keep some sanity here. Rich prob didn't do anything illegal. But to deny that there are very apparent and gross ethical problems with his actions is folly.
His reputation is very, very tarnished. Michgan fans got a good coach, but one with obvious ethical issues. It's embarrasing for all of us. And some WV fans are taking it too far.
But please don't be so biased in your reporting that you can't see that he is a man of dubious morality. That is simply a fact.
And remember, you have a lot of people in WV who read your blog, before and after the Shred Offense Guru's departure. I have always liked your blog, but please don't get too personal with us, we have pride just like you guys.
Sam-
you say that there are ethical problems with his actions. What actions, exactly? If you're referring to leaving WVU, that's one thing. If you're referring to the Shredding fiasco, no one has said what he did/didn't do with any degree of certainty.
Also, dubious morality? Jesus, overstate much? Based upon what?
People really think there is an IP issue here? Really? What patents were/are being infringed on by RichRod's shredding?
Really, this is ridiculous. I admire the good faith effort by some on this board to analyze if RichRod did anything illegal/unethical, but please- this is not a good faith accusation by WFV! There is no need to honor a bad faith FU from a spurned university.
I would be shocked if anyone from WFV decided to take legal action on this. And I would welcome it.
Now we know what Brian watches when the 700 Club is not on.
I think both sides are a little screwed up at this point. WVU is making this seem much worse. But if it did happen Rich Rod shouldn't have done it. So the blanket defending him by UM fans should not be done either. Obviously there was something he didn't want to be seen. Probably something that would hinder his fighting the 4 million lawsuit. Either way no one is clean, but they are a little dirty.
Ooooh Brian, you shouldn't have said that. Mountain Momma gonna be pissed.
@ WolvinOhio
Unfortunately I picked up a posting parasite in the wee hours. Ignore same please. "Natch?" Har.
Michigan fans are necessarily biased for their new coach and we're biased against him (not because he left, but how he left).
So there's little point in discussing the truth on a blog that is so brazenly one-sided and stereo-typically insulting to the people of West Virginia. Congrats to the open-minded and fair fans of Michigan.
I hope you like bubble screens.
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