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Detox Year. I like it. Very appropriate. I'm on board.
No mention of Boren being a huge vagina in that post, which is kind of disappointing.
2nd
quit bitching about your players leaving because of rod
No, luda, you're not first. Nor are you last. You are nothing. You are lukewarm, and as such, this board shall spew you from its mouth to fester and rot with the rest of your insignificant kin down below.
First
I guess I am a little worried about Boren's comments, but not to the point of extreme concern. Scott's e-mail is a nice anecdote and all, but I don't think it really provides any soothing answers to Boren's comments. I understand the whole "work hard, want to be here" thing. That isn't what Boren was getting at (and I don't think it is fair to him to just dismiss that as a self-serving PR move, although in part it most certainly is).
To me, there just seems to still be a disconnect that isn't being bridged by the "we want those who want to be here" or "those who stay..." memes.
Great post, thanks Brian. The best line: "zombie gerbil apocalypse." Hilarious...
"Clearly, one player who bothered to stay for spring practice deciding he's going to leave is unshakable evidence. It's way better evidence than, say, four midseason transfers of kids you recruited during your third year with the program. Keep on reachin' for the stars."
YES YES A THOUSAND TIMES YES.
UNH still up 1-0 with 6 left in the first period
'zombie gerbil apocalypse' needs to be a tag methinks
I went to school with Justin's mom Hope. She was actually really smart (like 4.0 at U of M smart), Mike on the other hand was the prototypical dumb jock. I have no doubt that Hope wrote the statement they released to the press and I suspect there is more to the story than Justin being a pussy. These folks were true blue until this week.
UNH was sooooooooo close to a last second goal in the first period. Crossed the line just after the buzzer. 1-0 UNH after one.
Huss = biff
Um, so wait. Erosion of family values? Justin apparently didn't enjoy being berated and insulted by the coaching staff, yet can laugh with dad about almost being carted off by the sheriffs because he was losing his shit with his son?
I see a double standard and a motherfucking lie by the Borens.
Off topic, but how bad @$$ is a name like Bronco? It just seems indicative of growing up to be either a cowboy or a drill sergeant.
Beyond worries about losing more players to the transition, should we be concerned about recruiting? The departures of players like Boren are, under the circumstances, not good press. Will recruits be scared off by this?
Perhaps more importantly, will RR even be able to recruit top atheletes to begin with? I'm having (unfounded) nightmares of a Beilein-esque first recruiting class.
Boy, this is really starting to sound a lot like the Bo starting at Michigan story....
Those who stay will be Champions.
Iteresting that mike said that in seemingly no uncertain terms that his sons would go to the same school. courious to know how justin pays for it if they go to one of the state universities in ohio...
I think its a bit premature to say RR will have a beilein-esque recruiting class. I think it will definitely be a down year. As Brian has pointed out in previous posts, he started behind most other coaches as he had to secure his recruits for this year, he had to gain more recruits for this year. Most other coaches didn't have all of those problems and have been in contact with next years recruits already. RR was 2-3 months behind in recruiting. So this year could be quite a bit lower than previous years in terms of overall rankings. Next year will be his test.
Based on the results of RichRod's outstanding recruiting effort in what basically amounted to a Penn State-sized class in two weeks...no, recruiting will be just fine, and probably better than it was in recent years. Players are not "scared off" by this shit. Every other school in the nation has probably had much more brutal workouts and practices until RichRod came in and took over here.
And recruiting "athletes" is something RichRod is probably going to dominate at, since pretty much every skill player on offense will be expected to fill a variety of positions.
I'm telling ya, just think Meyer at Florida. We may not have the recruiting base he has, but we're still going to get ours.
How will this be a down recruiting class? Did we forget about this past one already? He nabbed like eleventy billion 4-stars on signing day, most of whom were committed to other teams! That is not normal. It's outstanding.
zombie gerbil apocalypse....forget a tag, that should be a t-shirt.
The ZOMBIE GERBIL APOCALYPSE....where death comes by wee little nibbles.
But anyway...I don't mind Boren at all, it's his dad that honking my cheese at the moment. I did get a kick out of the line that he won't have his boys attending two different college. Kinda makes me feel sorry for number 2.
And what are 'family values' for a football program anyway? Was there some sort of suggestion that the right and left tackles have to get married? Or would that be the guards and tackles marrying? I always get that confused.
formerlyanonymous, you do know that the Maine-UNH game on espnU is a replay, right?
Hey Dex and chitownblue:
Are u reading Brian's post this morning you freakin girls. Are u starting to understand anything about winning?????
Boren is a quitter and couldnt handle the system!!!!!!!!!!!! Hats off to the reader Scott Springer who understands more about winning and what it takes than you "alleged" Michigan men.
I know, come back with some of your witty excrement and we will all be impressed. Please.
Dex: Oh please, please, please dont yell at me coach, please. I dont want to run up to the line of scrimmage.
Chitownblue: Yea, leave us alone we are sore from doing tae-bo last night.
Coach: Why dont you two join Mr. Boren.
the "erosion of family values" remark is cryptic and self-serving.
Good riddance.
It's so refreshing to hear from the Domers. Kinda like watching Jerry Springer. It adds nothing of value, but it just makes you feel better about yourself.
Bo Knows:
1) RR can't recruit top athletes.
2) RR doesn't know which conference he's in.
3) Boren leaving means a 3-9 season.
4) Antonio Bass is hurt.
5) All students should take law degrees.
6) Everyone read my book.
7) Les Miles wants this job.
yea, it was on last night. im just that bored.
Good riddance to Boren. However, if true, the bit about the condom is a tad worrisome. This is more than an "odd" policy: it's downright juvenile. Did RR have the West Va players drink piss from a moonshine jug before they could practice?
Zombie Gerbil Apocalypse is a band name just waiting to be claimed. Sounds like a punk rock or prog rock moniker to me.
Did RR have the West Va players drink piss from a moonshine jug before they could practice?
Zombie Gerbil piss.
Pretty weak trick to split up the sentence...."We wanted to have this go away quietly, but we didn’t want people to think he’s a quitter or couldn’t handle the system.”....I would expect Brian to rail against somebody that did that.
Buckeyes are such a difficult race to understand. In Columbus, they are represented by some of the most obnoxious fans in the country. Yet they also have some knowledgeable fans. It seems to be a mix of many of the worst fans in the country with some of the best interspersed, who actually care about the quality of the rivalry and some of whom even root for Michigan in "every game but one." And OZone is a fine blog.
By contrast, Notre Dame and MSU fans seem to have nothing positive to contribute. Illinois fans are just obnoxious, but they gave the world Deadspin. I was shocked when I read that one hockey post by a Spartan the other day who actually wasn't here to troll.
i was watching the clarkson game from Oct earlier.... they looked bad vs a bad StL team, but it was early in the season. i'll be heading to the game tonight.
i'm not sure it's fair to call Boren a pussy, etc.... and you can't be pissed that the borens are spinning the situation in such a way as to protect the rep of the kid & family.
you CAN be pissed at the direction the spin has been ...uhhh... spun (?): against RR & the program.
look, did the kid work hard under Carr? yes. did he work harder under RR for these 2.5 months? well there is pretty good evidence that yes, that is the case. if anything, this just shows that the new regimen under RR is &*%$ing brutal.
@Tim Wayman,
You can also attribute Wikipedia to OSU. It's the only encyclopedia where you can vandalize the information.
Finally some perspective....
If anything....Michigan was getting soft. And it starts in practice and offseason. It shouldn't be an option and it shouldn't be taken lightly.
If the heat got to much for Boren..then shame on him. If his Dad, and with all due respect because he is a former Wolverine, enabled him to leave on that kind of premise...then shame on him as well.
Message to Wolverine fan that is worried and scared....you want to be the best and maintain to be the best...then act like it ...nothing is easy and the road to the BCS title game is not to suffer a loss to App State at home...
Don't get me wrong..I love Michigan...but that right there should a lack of focus and discipline. And if Rich is going to bring the level of discipline to this team that I saw what WVU did to OU...then I am all for it.
Sam McGuffie = Fast = Man Crush
T-Shirt:
**Zombie Gerbil Apocalypse**
The Shock and Awe of the 9th-Best Big Ten Offense Using 5 NFL-Drafted Players!!111!
How has everyone missed the meaning behind the "family values" statement? It's right in front of your face? Michigan has not offered Boren's little brother a scholarship. He's a 4.7 40 FB who has no place in Rod's system. Rodriguez didn't value Justin enough to throw away a scholarship on his little brother. He's probably had enough exposure to the Boren family by now to realize that he doesn't have time to deal with anymore of their BS.
I'm guessing that it's not so much that Boren took his ball and went home as it is that his family gave Rodriguez an ultimatum and Coach Rod told them to go fuck themselves. Then Rod took the high road while the Boren's ran off to the press to give vague statements about "family values" and how hard they tried to work things out.
The Boren's feel entitled. Look at how they have reacted to this situation. What if Boren had three little brothers? Is RRod obligated to take them all? This is obviously a classic spurned lover situation.
Put two and two together, folks.
holy. shit. I believe this kevin feloow just opened my eyes. seriously, that angle is so plausible it's screaming at us.
thank you, my man!
2 + 2 = Boren?
kevin, that would explain the sudden, 'maybe we'll take our kids to OSU' stuff and the 'i won't have 2 kids at different schools' stuff.
weird....
That theory actually makes sense...
Previous posts about coaches calling players names or dropping f-bombs...
Note to Borens: Bill Parcells called Terry Glenn "she" for years!
Virtually every guy I've talked to said their HS coach dropped F-bombs like it was the only way they could get oxygen.
Second hand stories from the fat trainer guy you see with the hockey team and women's hoops team: Bo used to cuss.
And yeah, gotta love the point Brian made: "We just wanted this to happen quietly, and show Justin isn't a quitter."
QED, right?
why would justin sacrifice 2 more years as a starter and a decent chance at the NFL for his brother? if the end goal is NFL money, justin should say, hey little bro, go somewhere where you can play and i'll go to the nfl...
No more need to worry about statements to the Freep...
I just ate the other weak players...
I think time will tell...
This is a culture shock, to say the least...Will it end up being a GOOD culture shock?
I believe so, long term...But we are losing some of the sheen we have had on the program...Maybe it was time or Inevitable?
"why would justin sacrifice 2 more years as a starter and a decent chance at the NFL for his brother? if the end goal is NFL money, justin should say, hey little bro, go somewhere where you can play and i'll go to the nfl..."
You would think so, but apparently the Boren's don't operate that way. When Papa Boren says, “I’m not going to have two kids at two universities" it's clear what has probably happened. Last fall Michigan wanted him as a FB. He attends Junior Day a couple weeks ago and there is no offer. Justin leaves the program and on his way out talks about how they tried to talk to everybody they could in order to work things out.
You know, I think the beautiful thing about this post is that for years to come, if any NFL scout does a Google search on "Justin Boren", they'll find the headline "Justin Boren is a quitter who could not handle the system".
Justin, I don't know you, and I don't know all the reasons behind your departure, but all signs point to You=Quitter. Sorry.
kevin wins the chicken dinner, folks.
Zach did indeed attend Junior Day and RR was not impressed. The schollie offered and will be offered. (He could go to State, though, zing!)
The Family Boren felt insulted by this. They took their Justin and went home.
uh...NOT offered and will NOT be offered....
If "erosion of family values" = not blindly recruiting and playing Massey brothers over more suitable alternatives just because they are part of the family, well then, I'm all for it.
BYU...good one...
Hey I've got another example of when a big name coach came in, transformed the system and shoved out the players who didn't buy in....
BILL CALLAHAN AT NEBRASKA!
woohoo!! sign me up for some of that!
maybe Feagin can be the next Joe Dailey?
Basra=UM football
Nothing like a little chaos to bring the team together. I also love how Brian glossed over Boren's cryptic comments that "family values have eroded", No 2004 republicans. I could see if it was some fat slob recruit but this is a legacy player who was considered the best at his position coming out of H.S., who's family bleeds blue.
Callahan was not a big name coach, he was a NFL reject and never had a proven track record as a BCS level winner!!
Carroll was an exception, the jury is still out on the Wanstache!!
So comparing BYU to Michigan works how?
Yes BYU lost uber-recruit Ben Olson to UCLA, but BYU doesn't play in the PAC-10. BYU was still by far the most talented team in their conference. They should go 11-2 with that schedule every year. Do UM fans really think they'll outwork Ohio State to beat them without talented athletes? It takes talent to compete and right now UM doesn't have it.
"It takes talent to compete and right now UM doesn't have it."
I dunno wtf you're smoking, Scott. Michigan doesn't have talent?
On the Oline and QB, or as much overall as OSU.
Am I not smart enough to catch the sarcasm, or is RichRod actually having them bring used condoms to practice??
If so, "Ewww" and pretty infantile.
"Am I not smart enough to catch the sarcasm"
this part
LAst year when we had MAllett and Henne, we had more talent at QB, how the heck did that end up. All it takes for the tOSU machine to grind to a screeching halt is an injury to Chris Wells.
And yes we had equal/more talent (depends on how yo want to spin it) along the OL too, with Long/Kraus/Boren/Schilling!!
So last year helps with the talent now and in the future how? And OSU's Oline was better than UM's last year.
Massey fever.....CATCH IT.....
Boeckmann is not a great QB, put him under a little pressure he wilts like Sexy Rex!!And they have average WR, unless Possey(?) and the TE they got his year come in and light it up!!
ME thinks Boone is not even close to Jake Long as a player!!
My 'Possey's on broadway....FYI.
Dude, i was refering to the fact that with better talent at QB and OL we scored 3 fucking points, if you cant see it..i am sorry!!
Ok so Long is greater than Boone, but everyone else on the OSU line > than UM line. Schilling in particular looked more like a revolving door than a lineman.
Dude, if you want to believe we suck and are an inferior team go for it!!
i and a majority think it will be different, maybe not this year but definitely next year and onwards!
And not like tOSU has been accumulating 5stars at all positions, like USC has been, for the past 5 years!!!
The gap in talents are minimal! We are not EMU!
Look I think its better for the B10 if UM is good, but I think the Jury will be out. But not only do I think there was talent gap at the oline how about the entire defense. I just don't see how loosing a player of Justin's ability helps UM out. Right now to run either a pro-set or spread I would take OSU's roster. I would easily take their defensive roster too.
And fuck Appy State beat us with kids, except Dexter JAckson and their QB, who would not even get a sniff from NFL!!
Yes, anything can happen any given Saturday. Stanford over USC. Ntre Ame over UCLA. But did Stanford ultimately still suck, why yes. They managed to lose to Ntre Ame. Appy State had a great game. Would they sniff a B10 title? Hell no. So if you want UM to be Appy State or Stanford know what you're wishing for. So RR beats OSU once every couple of years going 3-9, you going to be happy?
He nabbed like eleventy billion 4-stars on signing day, most of whom were committed to other teams!
Closer and closer to being a real number every day.
For the record, I never actyually called Boren a pussy, I just said I thought his his vagina had a yeats infection and was sending Sally Struthers to the rescue with some Vagisil. Cause that bitch is awesome.
When Zack didn't like the Coaches at Pickerington North (Dad didn't like them) an apartment was rented on the other side of town so that Zack could move to Pickerington Central. I'm thinking Dad didn't like RichRod so Justin is gone. Boron seems to fit afterall. Bo always called 'em like he saw 'em!
I don't think anyone is glossing over what next year maybe like. Brian called it a detox year, and that's probably pretty apt.
Boren doesn't want to be at Michigan. If that's the case, I'd rather have a guy who wants to be on the field than one who doesn't.
Doesn't that make our football team any better in the short term? Probably not. But what difference does one O-lineman make on a line that'll already be pretty raw. (Even Jake Long couldn't make last years edition a dominating line...and Boren is no Long.)
In the long term, Rodriguez is going to get the people he wants into his system and philosophy.
Until he gets a year under his belt to work with the current team, and build up his own recruits, folks in the program may be experiencing shakes and spider hallucinations.
Don't worry about losing a player of Boren's ability. Be glad we're losing a player with Boren's attitude. Addition by subtraction is not a new philosophy. Not only are the players get leaner and meaner, the whole team is. In the end, that pays off.
I guess I can't borrow Zombie Gerbil Apocolaypse, but from this post forward I shall be known as Undead Hamster Armageddon. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is just HALF of my evil plan.
HHMmmmooooohhahhah HSAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Those who saty...Are going to be really tired by the time Spring Practice ends. Why the HELL did I capiatlize spring practice? I must be a moran.
"....The Boren's feel entitled. Look at how they have reacted to this situation. What if Boren had three little brothers? Is RRod obligated to take them all? This is obviously a classic spurned lover situation....."
Gees.... this R2 is "spurning" lovers from Mi to WVa and if they're lovers, he must be doing a lot of "F"-ing along the way....
Kevin -- Occam's Razor approves of your theory. That is some ridiculous shit right there.
Can someone get some additional support for it?
also, the timing of justins comments re: RR buy into the kevin theory. before the Jr (which his lil bro attended) he supported RR. 1 week after lil gets no offer, he leaves w/ bitterness.
"...Addition by subtraction is not a new philosophy. Not only are the players get leaner and meaner, the whole team is. In the end, that pays off..." und ve vil haf un zupeeryor race!...-A. Hitler
Sorry Guys ...I'll leave
Boren's departure does not "help" Michigan. But, you have to weed out guys who don't want to be a part of the team. Once you run off the residue of the shit that was the last half decade of UM football, only then will the team change and take on the character of Rodriguez and his staff.
Having never played organized football, I can certify that the above statement is true. I'm sorry, but I cannot bore you all to tears with stories about how my high school coach took showers with my girlfriend and it made me tougher.
Wow that theory makes way too much sense. Does the fact it was presented here invalidate it?
Bucaroobuc,
case of the ends justify the means:
superior football team does not equal superior race of human beings
Scott,
If your point is that OSU has more talent right now and will probably win, I would have to agree. But when you say that Michigan has minimal talent and imply there is no chance, that's where you lose us.
Michigan has a decent shot of being just as good or better than that Illinois team that beat OSU at home. Or are you saying that Illinois had much more talent than this Michigan team will?
Here's the definitive story on Ohio State fans:
I live in Nebraska. Every year for the UM-OSU game I go to DJ's Pub and watch the game in the "Football Room". There is a CLEAR divide of OSU fans. On one half of the bar you have the urine bag throwers. On the other half, you have the crowd that might easily don the Maiz 'n Blue and do us proud. That is, they are quite impressive in their bearing.
The two crowds do NOT mingle at all. And you can tell that the lcassy half are quite embarrassed by the urine bag throwers. Picture Jerry Springer guests, just not nearly as refined.
Here's a good rebuttal to Jim "Scoop" Carty's article from last week (Sorry, this is long):
ARBOR, MI (2008-03-28) The talk in Ann Arbor last week was not Kwame Kilpatrick. It was a four part series in the local paper titled Athletics and Academics at the University of Michigan.
Three reporters spent seven months researching the series. It fills about 35 printed pages. Few college athletic programs have ever received such scrutiny.
Why did the Ann Arbor News devote so much attention to jocks in the classroom? Probably because of Jim Harbaugh's comments last year. The former UM quarterback said he was talked out of becoming a history major, and said his Bachelor of General Studies isn't a serious degree.
His claims about the General Studies Degree are easy to knock down. The degree has the same requirements as a history major, except it doesn't require a language. Instead it requires more upper level courses. Michigan BGS graduates include the CEOs of Gateway Computers and Steelcase furniture. It's no backdoor.
Instead of refuting Harbaugh with evidence, Michigan's players, coaches and athletic officials all but challenged him to a knife fight. It didn't help.
Shortly thereafter, the Ann Arbor News started investigating whether Harbaugh's claims had merit.
Here is what seven months of digging turned up:
-Many student-athletes take independent studies, sometimes three or four.
-One psychology professor, John Hagan, has supervised some 251 independent studies for athletes.
These are genuine concerns, but they're easily fixed. Limit the number of independent studies a student can take, and a professor can supervise.
Here's what else the reporters discovered:
-Not every student athlete is preparing for a career at NASA (though some, actually, are);
-And Student-athletes sometimes look for easy classes.
What the reporters did not find were any violations of University, Big Ten or NCAA rules. No professors who wrote papers for students. No teachers who are on the take. No graduates who can't read.
The series has the air of the infamous John McCain expose in the New York Times a month ago. There wasn't an affair in that story, and there isn't a scandal in this one. If you hired a team of three plumbers to poke around your house for seven months, and all they discovered was a leaky faucet, your pipes are probably in good shape.
Let's look at the 1997 National Champion Football team. Coach Carr wrote to those players last spring. I asked to see the letter several times, but he only agreed to show it to me after the News article came out. In it, he writes that of the 96 members of that team, 27 made it to the NFL, and 18 are still playing professional football.
But the team also produced six doctors, six lawyers, four engineers, eight bankers and brokers, and one airline pilot. The team also boasts nine teachers, two professors, one social worker, and one minister. Not one is unemploy
So how about his scenario....
At 310 pounds, Boren is a doughboy. The new coaching staff tells him he needs to lose 30 pounds if he wants to play in the new offense. Boren doesn't lose the weight - primarily because he has gotten by on his natural talent and his last name all of his life, and hasn't had to work all that hard.
So three months into the new regime, Boren is still a doughboy, sucking wind in practice no less, and now the coaching staff his riding his doughboy ass like Zoro, 24/7. This, couple with the fact that his brother doesn't get offered a scholarship, pretty much ends the view of "family values" at Michigan in the Boren Family's eyes.
All speculation of course. But completely plausible.
Besides, is the kid all that good? Just starting doesn't make you good - in fact, in this case, it is probably more a product of how bad Michigan's offensive line has been over the past three years. When you have to run your offense like a 9-10 year old rec league football team where you can run behind only one player (Jake Long), that pretty much sums up how weak your line is.
Good bye and good riddance to the kid. Good luck in reuniting with Mike Gittleson in life after Michigan.
AND: Here's the rest of the story:
unemployed.
It seems to me, if all our institutions worked this well - including the media -- we'd be doing much better.
In the seven-month investigation, somehow the reporters never turned up Coach Carr's letter.
Perhaps someone should launch a seven-month investigation of the Ann Arbor News.
kaiser-
I was just being an a-hole
I am from Mi- went to OSU and am 1 of the "few" fans who wish UofM wins all games but one... I believe a strong UofM=a strong B10=a stronger OSU...none of my business but not sure how RR will play out..hoped UofM would have found someone from Mi (DivII..okay ala Tress..) who knows about "The Rivalry".
How do you "know" the rivalry? If RR recruits the best guys he can, and coaches them up, and is a good motivator, he'll beat OSU enough times to satisfy us.
We thought that about Cooper.... for 13 f'ing years
I think my point was that BYU, then Appy State were bad comparisons to what UM should want. And do I think UM will have the talent and experience of last year's Illinois team? Absolutely not. I would definitely pick 07 Illinois in a game against 08 UM at this point. Does UM even have QB they know can be as good as Juice? Do they have any for sure top 15 nfl draft picks at Running Back??? I don't even think UM's defense will be as good as Illinois was last year. Do they have a J Leman? No. Do you think last year's Illinois team has a chance to only have 4 wins against next year's B10?
Is that a reasonable expectation of next year's Wolverine team? I guess it's possible that Brian is only using that number sarcastically, but it also seems possible that some UM fans think it is a real possibility.
Bucaroobuc,
It's cool. You're characterization of me as a Wolverine Nazi is just a good analogy ... like Kellen Winslow Jr. waging war on all his opponents.
I believe RRod will strengthen the Big 10 with Michigan. More #1 vs. #2 games would be nice. Maybe we can show up in a National Championship game in the future, too.
It's true that a strong Rivalry is good for us both and the conference. It's much too good to be one-sided for too long. It's swung both ways in the past and will again. Hail ...
(to the Victors, that is)
I forgot to mention that 07 Illinois oline much > 08 UM oline.
Unmitigated. Hilarious.
It is going to be a rough season to be sure. I feel like everyone is mainly paying attention to the offense, which is the side of the ball with the greater transition and greater loss of players through graduation and attrition. But how is the defense looking? No attrition over there, right? Will they be able to shoulder the load and at least get us to a bowl game? That's my hope for the season - just keep that bowl streak alive. It's a must.
Brian,
Congratulations on dodging another bullet! Seriously, you scoured dozens of ND boards/sites and that's the best line you came up with? My definition of a deranged fan base would be one that believes a line from a blog that has an audience of about a dozen is reprensentative of the feelings of a broad group of people.
But hey, yes many of us are extremely happy that our enemy is encountering key player departures...just like happened to ND when Weis came on board. But even you have to admit that the overall tenor from ND fans has been one of "wait and see" to determine if defections are truly related to RR douchebaggery....of course, we're hoping!
that one internet post "encapsulated everything about internet Notre Dame fandom that is hilarious and deranged" is itself hilarious and, well, inane. As if the volatile, mutual-hatred b/w the fanbases of two college programs brings out the bad seeds of one pathetic group of people and underscores the white fluffy cloud-shitting and glass-eating superiority of the other. Maybe it's just one asshat that only differs from other asshats in his team preference.
This is almost as misguided as the lovely quote you provided weeks ago on Weis being so rude that he leaves conversations mid-sentence (gasp!). Funny, a reporter that has something bad to say about a coach you do not like is a glowing shrine to truth, Bernstein AND Woodward. However, any reporter that dare question the holy sanctity of any coach you do like is written off as a 'hack'. Carlin had a great take on this when he spoke about the difference between a "Jackass" and an "Asshole" when somebody's driving on the road.
Can't you just say this Boren thing is a mess that isn't worth touching? I think that would have covered the essential point and kept you from bothering the rest of us with some idiot spouting on about some wine that probably came from a box. Don't You?
Wait, wait...Notre Dame guys, what did you say? That when Charlie Weiss took over there wee players who left the program? Nooooooo, we Michigan fans have been told for 48 hours that it is soley the fault of our new coach and that this has only happened here!
Now you give us hope! Yes! Hope that after three years, Rich Rodriguez can have his team on the brink of becoming a 3-9 laughingstock! Oh the joy!
Nobody on the team that had 9 months to "prepare" for App. State deserves the benefit of the doubt.
No more underachieving pampered Michigan football players please!!!
HUSS = BIFF
eight and five
Observation:
Unpopular blogs attract few commenters, but the few they get often make quality points.
Popular blogs attract enormous numbers of commenters, but the quality of the comments is generally dreadful.
There must be some kind of scientific name to describe this phenomenon.
First!!!
just kidding, but kevin's theory should go in the internets hall of fame. Even if it's not true, it sure looks true.
Huss - Thank you sir for that fine Gangs of New York reference. Love that line & Daniel Day Lewis.
and of course whole Bible reference too (the original). I liked it better when DDL said it though.
Brian I whole heartedly agree that next year will be a "rebuilding" year. Anytime there is a coaching change there is some attrition. I am not saying anything that everyone already knows. But that line about the "zombie gerbil apocalyspe" will go down in the annals of history.
Hi guys!
"Tressel has had some modicum of success."
This gets my nomination for under-statement of the year.
Go Bucks.
"....The Boren's feel entitled. Look at how they have reacted to this situation. What if Boren had three little brothers? Is RRod obligated to take them all? This is obviously a classic spurned lover situation....."
Gees.... this R2 is "spurning" lovers from Mi to WVa and if they're lovers, he must be doing a lot of "F"-ing along the way....
Bucaroobuc | 03.28.08 - 3:50 pm |
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Everything that is bad in this world always comes back to John Fucking Navarre. "Navarre wants a beer" indeed. I hate that guy.
So, for years, everyone is saying OSU doesn't recruit as much talent as UM but they beat us the last few years. WVU's recruiting pales in comparison to UM but they've won two BCS bowls in a row.
Now, UM has a less-than-stellar recruiting year and loses a few players and, all of the sudden, they're going to suck? Please.
Now, UM has a less-than-stellar recruiting year and loses a few players and, all of the sudden, they're going to suck? Please.
VadaTripp | 04.01.08 - 10:31 am
UM did not have a less-than-stellar recruiting year.
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