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Brian: Great post.
We will be fine. There may be some bumps in the road early, but those who stay will be champions.
It would be nice to have a team who bleeds for Michigan like we all do.
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If Manningham or Arrington stays they should were #1.
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From the last thread - interesting note....
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll...dll...346/1019/
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Manningham says "I'm going back...I want to get my degree".
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The MM link does not appear to be working, I would however, love to read that article.
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stonum was already promised the #1 jersey
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As someone in another thread said, in theory, couldn't he "come back" after his NFL career is over and get his degree?
dex |
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MM is back? Can we get a working link?
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Brian: Well played, and extra credit for the phrase "Sooner tots."
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link again:
http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll...346/1019/
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ATL Blue |
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http://www.battlecreekenquirer.c...PORTS/
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try that link for MM quote.
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The #1 jersey couldn't interest me less. That said, I'd be surprised if a guy who isn't even going to start gets #1 - especially when he was "promised" it by a coach who no longer is there.
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OK, let's do this again. Stonum is wearing #1 next year. The coaching staff has already told him this.
http://blog.mlive.com/
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Every #1 before Braylon wore it as a freshman.
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Chris Webber and Juwan Howard got their degrees after leaving school early. So did Shante Orr.
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I hope Rodriguez gives #1 to a kicker.
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Jason Gingell, your new #1.
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I was hoping RR would give #1 to Pryor.
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Does Brabbs have any eligibility left ?
scalz1 |
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will mallett stay if they promise him #1?
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4 words I never thought I would have to say:
I miss Garret Rivas.
Long live fat kickers !!!
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"A lot of things will be new next year, but we're still going to wear winged helmets," Trent said. "In about a week, I'm going to start working on some of the guys that might leave to encourage them to come back next year."
you better work hard buddy
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Mike DeBord for #1
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"A lot of things will be new next year, but we're still going to wear winged helmets," Trent said. "In about a week, I'm going to start working on some of the guys that might leave to encourage them to come back next year."
"About a week"?! Do it now, sir! Do it now!
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Off topic, but after watching WV's game yesterday I'm not so hot on the idea of the rugby punt formation making its way back to Michigan. Visions of the Iowa punt-fest debacle in 2004 dance in my head.
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scalz1 - have you see Lopata? The fat-kicker is alive and well.
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A hard sell if you can't tell them who their quaterback will be.
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Lopata had a fierce gut going in the Cap One bowl.
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Why on earth would the space emperor rugby punt? He has an invisible space ship over the stadium he can kick to
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Meanwhile, Mike Patrick called Arrington "Harrington" for most of the first half.
That is, when he wasn't slurping Tim Tebow's pole.
Did you know Tim is actually Tebow's middle name? His first name is "Heismanwinner." Also, did you know he is the only sophomore to win the Heisman? Ever? Heismanwinner Tim Tebow, Heisman-winning winner of the Heisman?
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2008 Projected Two Deep on Offense: (No freshmen are included.)
QB Ryan Mallett, Steven Threet
RB Brandon Minor, Kevin Grady
WR Adrian Arrington, Greg Matthews
Slot Mario Manningham, Brandon Minor
FB/TE Mark Moundros, Carson Butler
WR Greg Matthews, JR Hemingway
LT Steve Schilling, Perry Dorrestein
LG Justin Boren, Tim McAvoy
C David Moosman, Justin Boren
RG Alex Mitchell, Jeremy Ciulla
RT Mart Ortmann, Perry Dorrestein
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how about that britney?! what's she doing with her life?
/mikepatrick
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Tebows going to find defenses trying to smash the hell out of him next year.
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Tebow plays in the SEC. Their defenses don't smash people, they just run really fast and hope guys fall down
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Britney is busy decorating the baby's new trailer with Jamie-Lyn.
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Before you all get excited over beating Oklahoma without RR, let me remind you they lost to South Florida and Pitt with him.
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how about that britney?! what's she doing with her life?
/mikepatrick
dex
Nice add Dex,Still on top of your game.
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Can someone break down for me the role that Michigan's new coordinators and position coaches actually held during yesterday's WVU game -- i.e., were they actually calling the shots on offense and defense?
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Mike, football coaches, on occasion, lose football games in which they coach.
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Dave - I believe that RR calls his own offensive plays. But, in lieu of him being there, I imagine that Calvin Magee was calling them for WVU last night. The man calling the defensive plays is our presumptive DC.
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Also, Morgan Trent: you are a flat-out warrior. Another year like this and he's looking at some tall NFL dollars.
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Fox isn't great in their coverage, but they are still 100 times better than ABC/ESPN. The Disney family of networks sucks horribly now and the majority of their coverage is crap. I can't think of another network that would ever put a useless buffoon like Paul Maguire in the booth or let Dan Fouts do play-by-play.
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Chitownblue -- thanks for the heads-up.
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I love you too Frank.
Hey, pssst, SEC coaches, I got a hint for you. Got it from my buddy Frank. Ready?
Try to tackle Tim Tebow. Really hard.
You are so f'n smart!
dex |
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"Like a runaway beer truck down the sideline!"
Best announcer quote ever.
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Uh, WVU lost their QB in the Pitt game. That usually spells disaster (see: USC, U/M, et al).
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Hanni, I can never, in any debate, side with a network that gives Thom Brenneman a microphone. Holy mother of god....
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I read a quote from Magee that he calls all the plays and RR has veto power if he doesn't like the call.
I'm not so sure Casteel is coming to AA. Unlike Magee, he's WV born and bred. Not saying he isn't, I just don't think it's a sure thing.
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Franks thinks the team that scores the most points has a good chance of winning the game.
scalz1 |
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joepa went 4-8 and 3-9 in consecutive seasons. that's pretty good evidence that he's nothing to get to excited about either.
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Frank is holding off a viewpoint on evolution until all the facts are in.
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why let 'facts' get in the way of belief?
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I can't wait until Brian puts up another post and Frank suggests we give MM and AA the #1 in the comments. It's like retarded Groundhog's Day.
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Frank thinks we're stupid if we don't try to recruit Terelle Pryor.
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This just in:
Frank backs the Allied troops in World War 2.
scalz1 |
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Amen, Brian. Amen.
I was excited to tears and frustrated to nausea - all at the same time - as I watched them dismantle the Gators.
At times, all I could see was Marlo Brando in the back seat of that car with Rod Steiger saying.."You don't understand. I coulda been a contender!"
Let's add a new mantra to "Those who stay will be champions." I vote for: "Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war."
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I'm really hoping RBUAS is working up a post. How does he pass us a game like that?
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Ha! That picture of Taylor hovering over Tebow reminds me of the lolcfb Orson did last year with T. Smith on his ass..something like, "Likin ur Heismens."
Indeed.
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We hired away the head coach of a Top 5 BCS team that just won 11 games. Fot the 3rd year in a row.
What Martin did was UNPRECEDENTED.
It's great. To be. A Michigan Wolverine!
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"That team's offensive and defensive coordinators will be Michigan's offensive and defensive coordinators. That team's recruiting coordinator will be Michigan's recruiting coordinator."
I know we've touched on this a bit in previous threads, but are we so sure of this after Coach Stewart's hiring at WVU today?
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Rhammer - Magee and Tony Gibson came to Rodriguez's presser in Michigan with him - it'd be odd for them to stay.
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I guess if you are to believe Forde, Magee is a lock,
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/c...47&
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but Rivals appears to be reporting that Stewart is courting all the WVU assistants...
oh-well, wake me when it's over...
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Frank thinks Rodriguez might let some of the current staff go.
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sorry, thanks there Chitown...
I hadn't noticed that.
still, the courting by stewart worries me.
just a little.
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I do not see them staying at WVU. It would look terrible, but I don't put anything past anyone.
So what are the coaching positions that need to be filled and anyone have any ideas on who they could be??
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anyone with scout access what to "summarize" what they are apparently terming the "informed scuttlebut" on Loeffler & Mallett?
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I still think Campbell ends up as our WR coach. He's done way too good a job.
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braylon endowed a scholarship for the player who wears the #1 jersey after he left. MM wanted the #1 after his sophmore year, but didn't get it(don't know why--maybe because he made his name with 86). i would be surprised to see stonum in the no. 1 next year...
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someone make up a list, i;m inept
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the presumption is that BE signed off on stonum getting #1.
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@ Frank
Boobs Boobs (.) (.)
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OC: WV guy
RC: WV guy
DC: probably WV guy
S&C: probably WV guy
RB: Fred Jackson
WR, DB, DL, LB, OL, TE, ST = ???
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So WVU beat Oklahoma, big whoop.
WVU lost to Pitt. Don't give the excuse that they lost their starting QB during the game. Michigan lost it's starting QB a couple times this year and still won games.
WVU could have been destroying the Buckeyes on Monday, but they didn't beat Pitt, and now you have their coach.
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It will royally suck if RRod let Ron English leave to Louisville *and* he can't bring over his DC from WV. I mean - WTF?
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So WVU lost to Pitt, big whoop.
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wanna fightaboutit?
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@DanK--that's the only way i could see stonum getting the no. 1 too
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since wvu made bill stewart the head coach, does anyone think that any assistants RR was planning on bringing in will end up staying at wvu?
just a thought.
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All this talk of #1 might bring Frank back. Ssshhhh.
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so what if they lost to pitt. I have seen bigger upsets. USC lost to Stanford, we lost to Appy State, We beat OSU in 69 (woodys best team), etc etc etc.
One game does not make a coach. A great track record does.
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"I do not see them staying at WVU. It would look terrible, but I don't put anything past anyone."
Would look terrible to who? Terrible like Rodriguez walked out on WV, or terrible like Rodriguez walked out on WV and then his coaches decided they wanted to stay?
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all RR talked about at the cap 1 bowl (listen to his presser at mlive) was the loyalty he had to his WVU coaches and the loyalty they have to him. yay mutual loyalty.
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Braylon is the only Michigan receiver to acquire the No. 1 jersey during his career. Every other receiver to wear that jersey came in with it. It's always been a recruiting tactic. And it was used that way this year when we recruited Stonum. It's been promised to him.
In addition, Braylon has made a large donation to the university that includes funding the scholarship for the player wearing the No. 1 jersey. One stipulation in the agreement is that Braylon is involved in deciding who wears the jersey. He was involved in making the promise to Stonum.
I think it's safe to say that the jersey is not up for grabs.
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RR better keep somebody on his staff with Michigan recruiting roots.
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Let's be real here. I think we all know how much RR's talk of loyalty means. I mean seriously.
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Frank says if RR can't get any recruits, the team might suffer.
scalz1 |
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anon- he does have jackson still...
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Mark Snyder did our work for us... (or did *his* work before we could do it for him... whatever)
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...4/80103019/
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"While Stewart was one of Rodriguez's assistants, his hiring means that much of the West Virginia staff is no longer jobless, a likely casualty had an outside coach come in. Though Stewart won't have offensive coordinator Calvin Magee, who is coming to Michigan, he and Rodriguez may be battling for the services of the other assistants who helped win Wednesday's Fiesta Bowl.
WVSports.com reported from Stewart's press conference and said he offered all of the current assistants the chance to keep their jobs. Defensive line coach Bill Kirelawich told Rodriguez he's staying in Morgantown and the wide receivers coach Tony Dews is considering the possibility, as is defensive cooridnator Jeff Casteel, the website reported.
Those departures would seem to open positions for U-M wide receivers coach Erik Campbell and defensive line coach Steve Stripling -- both highly regarded -- as now they could have a chance to be re-hired by Rodriguez.
Rodriguez said Tuesday he planned to bring a number of West Virginia assistants with him and there was a thought that most of the staff would be transferred from his former job to Ann Arbor after the Fiesta Bowl. He added there was a possibility he could re-hire more U-M assistants and that appears stronger now.
Rodriguez said he planned to have his staff in place by the end of the bowl season, which concludes with the Jan. 7 BCS title game, but that timeline may be a bit more uncertain now as well."
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Samizdat - who let you out of the Gulag?
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Soup is the guy they need to keep, MichiganStudent.
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Some of the WVU assistants might be "loyal" to the university or the new coach. Some are likely to be "loyal" to RR. Most of all, though, I bet that most of them are going to be "loyal" to whomever offers a better paycheck.
Given RR's comments about WVU's unwillingness to pony up money for assistants, I bet Michigan offers the better deal and we end up up with whoever RR decides is critical.
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keep erik campbell, please
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If we miss out on their WR and DL coaches, I don't really care - I'd rather keep ours.
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Twice or maybe thrice in his 13 year HC career, Lloyd Carr lost to MSU. Cept the difference between MSU and UM is that UM has a large talent advantage...Pitt actually has a pretty decent talent advantage over WVU. Take out their best player and replace him with an INT machine and you may end up with a loss. Pennsylvania is a major recruiting hot-bed (we should know, a lot of our great players are from there) and Pitt has great tradition in that state and gets a lot of recruits that would play for Michigan any day (Pretty sure they got one of the top O-lineman, RBs, and receivers in the nation this recruiting season). Talent is something Pitt is not short on. Seeing Pitt beat WVU this season in a major rivalry game, I'd respond: "it's about damn time", not "RR sucks so bad cuz he lost to Pitt."
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Sorry Chitown. I honestly want to see RR do great things at UM, but I'm just saying he's talked big about loyalty in the past, and I think his actions speak for themselves.
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I really dont think RR is unloyal. If he didnt like where he was at and didnt see the commitment to making the program better then he was right in leaving.
1. Morgantown sucks, ive been there and its not fun for even 10 minutes. Unless you watch a movie or football game...
2. He felt WVU wasnt obeying the contract with the upgrade in pay for assistants, new athletics facilities and other things
3. He made a huge step up in quality of life
4. huge step up in terms of a football school adn tradition. WVU has won more BCS games of late, but not a NC
5. Enormous step up in terms of academics
So I dont think you can call him unloyall. Is loyalty staying with something that is not panning out the way you like, or is that stupidity??
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Samizdat - if you were offered over $1 million a year to do the same job with a greater chance of success (ie, Michigan's ability to pull better recruits) would you take it?
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So I dont think you can call him unloyall. Is loyalty staying with something that is not panning out the way you like, or is that stupidity??
MichiganStudent | 01.03.08 - 3:33 pm | #
^^^ Stupidity is using words like "unloyall". Are you a student in AA or Dearborn ??
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obviously my last comment can be refuted, but just wanted to throw that out there
Also thanks for the article RHammer. I'd like to keep our Wide Receivers coach and D Line Coach for sure. Also the D coordinator could be a dicey situation, if we dont get him and RE is already gone we might need to get someone from another school who im sure RR hasnt given that much thought too. I'm sure his #1 choice has been WVU's DC
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Something eveyrone is forgetting is that Stewart doesn't have a proven track record like RR. There is no guarantee that he will be as succesful and keep his job. Magee seems to be the other brains behind the spread offense and with out him around who knows how they will perform.
Also, for those who don't remember or didn't know. Pryor was wearing a Michigan shirt around the practices. There is no guarantee, but this is a good sign.
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wassup- dude shut the fuck up. Ok you're right I check over all my typos on this board becuase I am worried about what you professors might think
MichiganStudent |
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Frank thinks that one million has a good chance at being more than 800,000
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wassup - are you serious?
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I could research, but don't want to spend the time - what was Stewart's position before he was interim-HC? Was he the QB coach?
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scalz, do we really want to wake frank up from his nap? he might get crabby again.
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Hey Mike from Black Shoe Diaries,
Are you the one that commented on the RichRod hire by saying that he was an "opportunist" that will bolt for the NFL at his first opportunity, but in the next breath basically said his offense won't work in the Big 10? Yeah, that makes sense- he'll struggle to get his "gimmicky system" up and running at Michigan, and that will just bedazzle NFL execs.
I love you Penn State fucks. You're just so lovably dumb. Having said that, however, Penn State does have the best chance in awhile to beat Michigan next year.
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The Polizia are back
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The 55-year-old Stewart earned $139,000 this year in his position that also included coaching tight ends and fullbacks and being the special teams coordinator. He came to West Virginia as quarterbacks coach in January 2000 after two seasons as offensive coordinator in the Canadian Football League.
I personally like the younger coaches with some enthusiasm.
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and just in case i thought it was spelled that way- spelling and intelligence are really not that highly correlated. So, being a good speller does not have much to do with how smart you are and how well you do in school.
Just thought i'd throw that out there for ya.....where did/do you go to school? State?
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Probably, but not just for the salary. I don't think his new salary will be a huge increase, but he will definitely have MUCH stronger recruiting power and better facilities.
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Frank thinks that eating uncooked pork could give you trichinosis.
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I'm still waiting for frank to give me another woman to jack off to. Apparently he didn't like me talking about boobs in a previous thread.
Boobs, frank. Boobs.
There, I said it. Again. Now please flame me. Again.
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Penn State is not going to beat us. If there is one thing PSU can do, its choke away the Michigan game.
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I think the team looked so sexy out there new years day.
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Frank doesnt like boobs.
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mmmmmmmmm, graphics in motion...
http://images.rockytoptalk.com/
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h/t to maize&brew:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/story/...1/3/13555/
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Chill out man.By the way spelling "disloyal" as "unloyall" does not qualify as a typo.
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http://ap.google.com/article/
ALe...jE6kvAD8TUIPO04 article on Stewart. Yikes 8-25 record as an HC and only assistant experience prior to this job? I guess I shouldn't say that unless I've done research on where he's coached and their situation, but damn. Good luck with that WVU.
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scalz1 is gay
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Yeah, hiring a guy because of one great, feel-good win isn't the best. SMQB actually had what I think is a good take on it.
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Look at what they pay their assistants at WVU. Would you stay there knowing you could make double that?
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What we really need to worry about is repacing Donovan Warren - cause he gone...
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01.03.08 - 3:48 pm | #
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I hate boobs too unless there on men.
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spelling "disloyal" as "unloyall" does not qualify as a typo.
exactly!
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Samizdat - do can we categorize it as "disloyalty" when it's something most of us would have done? I think an employee's "loyalty" for their employer simply consists of working to the best of their ability while on payroll - not a commitment to be there forever.
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Was there an article that supported that Donovan was leaving?
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oh, and the mandatory...
unloyal, that's unpossible!
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@Jim Harbaugh Scramble
Warren is only a freshman. Do you mean after next year?
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JHS - did you ever post something corroborating that tidbit?
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@ chitown re: Magee
WVU running backs coach, then OC ('04), then also AHC ('07)
before WVU, running game coordiantor at USF, HS coach before that, before that a Tampa Bay Buc player.
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If Stewart somehow keeps the majority of assistants and who can deny the love and loyalty cascading down last night, West Virginia might be in good shape naming him head coach. His contract will probably allow for more bucks for the assistants too.
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S Fl Wolverine,
JHS was telling us yesterday that Warren is transferring.
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ok why wouldnt it count then?
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Oh christ, here we go again with the jacking of the handles by some jackass (frank?) who doesn't like me.
(sigh) Perhaps it would be better if I just rolled with it. So I'll stipulate it all- yeah sure, scalz1 is gay and I don't like boobs, unless they are manboobs. So, let's move on.
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I've finally made it !!!!
I was name jacked !!!
suuuuhhhhwwweeetttt!!!
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I guess strong cognitive ability relies heavily on the idea of spelling or using words properly rather than assessing the value of the idea, meaning, and content of the post...but hey, fight the good fight wassup.
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How do you feel about the possiblity of playing with Terrelle Pryor? Are you recruiting any players out there? Nick Perry, Brandon Smith, Pryor, have you been talking to Boubacar (Cissoko)?
McGuffie - I love Terrelle. Who wouldn't want the No. 1 player in the nation to play with them and have the opportunity to be in the same backfield. I talk to all of them. They're all great guys and I want them all to come to Michigan.
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There is no way Warren is transfering. He would be crazy even if he didn't like the new staff or game plan. He is good enough he could leave for the NFL after next year. Why would he want to give up a year of eligibility and be gone?
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cfaller
you mean gay, like happy, right ?
right ?
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I heard Stewart's getting paid $800,00 plus incentives. Like I said in another post, I suspect that the salaries and RR loyalty will get me most of the guys at WVa.
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kgh- thank god for you.
Now back to the important rumor mill....
Are people sure about D War?
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I mean gay like what we did last night
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Rumor mill -
I heard Braylon might want to play in the NFL next year.
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Frank thinks that you can assume someone's identity on this comment thread by typing their handle into the "name" box. He thinks it's called "handle-jacking". Something he likes to do in a different interpretation of the term.
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Looking forward to seeing you get the ball in space from Ryan Mallett in the future. Have you been talking to him about that happening in the future?
McGuffie - I talk to Ryan all the time and we always joke about the opportunity to play with each other because we are both from Texas and we have similar personalities, but he's more wild.
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I'd love to see Braylon play for the Pats
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Frank thinks Tom Brady might turn into a good NFL quarterback.
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@ michigan student
I second that
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Frank thinks that you can assume someone's identity on this comment thread by typing their handle into the "name" box. He thinks it's called "handle-jacking". Something he likes to do in a different interpretation of the term.
something he likes to do to horses, rather.
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Shut the fuck up scalz1
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With a couple moves, Jake Long might play for the Pats.
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FYI:
Harsh, harsh comments from Ken Kendrick (Diamondbacks MGP, WVU alum/booster and buddy of RR) about Bill Stewart as WVU head coach on ESPN just a while ago.
Says he's way overmatched and is not qualified to run a Div-1 program.
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kgh10: Your post at 3:32 is pretty damn accurate....and just to add to it, Pitt is a sleeping giant and theres no excuse for them to be without a bowl for three straight seasons....well, other than Wanny....but before he got there, Harris had them in a bowl game every year and were league champs during his final year......there is more than comparable talent there vis a vis WVA, just not sure if Wanny is creative enough of an offense coach to win big w/ it.....as far as D, he's actually a good coach and Pitt did have a top-20 defense this year with mostly underclassmen.
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Kendrick seems like a bit of an ass, although I pretty much agree with him. I think Butch Jones would have been a better choice.
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Umm, folks, you can't go pro until after your Junior season (academically - three years - not eligibility-wise). So Warren has to wait *two* more years.
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@scalz1
You're not gay. Or you are. Either way, you're fine in my book. I was (unsuccessfully) trying to nudge the handlejacker off of me by playing with him. (sigh) Trolls annoy me.
Anyway, does anyone know or can anyone find out what kind of assistant salary pool Stewart will have at WFV? I kind of doubt that WFV conceded to Stewart things they wouldn't concede to Rodriguez, although maybe the reality of RichRod leaving has slapped some sense into them.
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With a couple moves, Jake Long might play for the Pats.
scalz1
What a stupid ass statement
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I think there will be a vastly deeper pool in AA, cfaller.
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just got here, is mallett going to ucla?
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yes confirmed
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Pats could easily move up 2 or 3 spots in the draft, Frank. They have the #7 pick right now.
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thank you, saw the info in the blade but wondered if anyone had better info
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It has'nt been confirmed.
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Even if Mallet is going how much worse could Threet be? Seriously, even with the game experience he got this year, Mallet's learning curve looks pretty steep. I still think he'll be really, really good one day and sitting out as year might actually be the best thing for him.
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damn the coaching search posts...are there still that many handle-jacking idiots lingering around these parts?
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Show me anywhere that mallett has cofirmed he's going to UCLA.
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Chitownblue, I wouldn't have even said anything about it, but RR did talk a lot about his loyalty to WVU. That's one of the things that makes *college* sports better than pro sports: the academics, the fans, the alums, the students, all building loyalty like no professional team could possibly do. If that loyalty or trust is never professed, then whatever, but in his case, it was.
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Could we stop all the handle jacking talk and get down to who's gonna wear the #1 jersey ?
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Yes please, besides that ONE UCLA blog that everyone keeps sourcing.
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So it seems that Michigan will either be led by Pryor or Mallett next year. Both have a lot of learning to do and experience to acquire. But is it really bad news in either case?
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I think you can assume that much of what's attributed to cfaller and scalz isn't actually them. It's not that hard to figure out.
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kgh10 - yes, plenty of handlejackers abound.
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Per the Diag blog on MLive.com, Bruce Madej, U of M's SID, says that no transfer paperwork has come across his desk. That doesn't foreclose Mallett actually leaving or make the reports from the Blade false, but perhaps premature.
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how is OSU's qb situaton compared to ours (next year)?
If tp goes there, they may lose a qb as well.
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@scalz1
Agreed, but I'm still curious to see what exactly WFV is doing to adjust to a post-RichRod world. The things he asked for ($500k in extra assistant pay, players can sell their books at end of semester, facility repairs) were not outlandish or absurd requests, if you want to be a premier college football program. Yet the (unconfirmed) scuttlebutt is that they were dragging their feet on doing any of it, which spurred on RichRod's exit.
If WFV made a quick adjustment and boosted the assistant pool, you're right, Michigan will be able to win that arms race, and I'm still not worried. But I'm still curious- why would they do that, but only AFTER RichRod left? I mean, it would have a "locking the barn doors after the horses are gone" kind of quality to it, wouldn't it?
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No, it's not hard to figure out, but it's pretty obnoxious. Sorry to give their posts so much attention, I guess on me/us.
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It's pretty clear what's them or not, as their handles actually appear differently when it's them, as opposed to when its the jacker. I'm not going to specify how it is different, though.
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The draft is the first chance each team gets at players who have been out of high school for three years. Players whose high school class graduate three or more years before are eligible to play in the NFL. Most drafted players come directly out of college programs as seniors or juniors, underclassmen are eligible hense they complete their second year, and other players are selected from other pro leagues like the Arena Football League. A player who is drafted but does not sign a contract can sit out that season, which is referred to as a "holdout", and can re-enter the draft the following year.[
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Stonum will be wearing the No. 1 jersey next year. There is no reason for this to be discussed further.
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Oh, and boobs, frank. Boobs.
Doesn't unsuccessfully gaybaiting people bore you, frank?
Boobs. I love them, frank. Boobs.
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Okay - RR leaves WVU for UM and he is questioned for doing so. What about PAul Johnson to GA Tech? What about Les Miles from Okie State to LSU? Loyalty is not the smae thing as blind devotion.
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give me a guy's cock and I'm happy!
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RR also said in the one interview during the game that there was some other stuff about the reason for his exit that "hasn't come out yet," though it might if WVU keeps pushing the buyout lawsuit.
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MF,
That is absolutely right. It is crazy to start claiming that anyone who leaves a job is a traitor. RR did wonderful things for WVU. He showed great dedication to that program the entire time he was there. He didn't go there, anally rape the program, and bounce. He did great things, new and better opportunities presented themselves, and he did was every other rational person would do by taking them.
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@ cfaller96..Don't forget about me
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New thread yo...
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Jesus christ can all you guy's knock it off!
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Remember that Ohio State has a QB similar to TP named Antonio Henton. He is a Redshirt Frosh and that could make TP think twice about sitting in Columbus on the bench for three years while another guy starts. TP has a better shot of beating Mallett or any other QB on roster if RM decides to transfer. The only other school I could consider TP going to is Oregon.
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mallett is gone. Read Brian's blog.
http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs...RTS17/
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TP is not SITTING on the bench anywhere. If he goes to OSU (which he will) Henton will be sitting on the bench.
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That is speculation. No confirmation there.
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I live in Virginia, south of Maryland, and went to Michigan. Southern speed is a concept that starts further south than us, like in the states of Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, and parts further south than that as well. Not here in Virginia though.
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Test
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Was tired of stealing that d-bag's name, so this will work better, I think you will all agree. Anyway, here's the lowdown:
Mallet - gahn
Warren - may leave (this is seriously under the radar, but he's upset about RE firing...)
Campbell may be back, as well as SS and a few other coaches
Pryor - likely on the way
HOLLA!
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Now that the Earth is right on its axis, I can officially start cheering for LSU to knock OSC's heads off.
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u shut your fat mouth and root for the huge 11
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I'm reading these comments, and I find it hard to believe that UM fans would be so understanding if they had a head coach who was born and raised in Michigan, adored by every fan, claimed he would be at Michigan as long as they would have him, revolutionized their program into something studied and admired by all of college football, and then after a humiliating loss to OSU, dumped them for a head coaching position at USC. It's an awkward comparison, and no doubt impossible for you to fully grasp since none of you have ever had to be a Michigan fan when everyone else in the country refused to take you seriously, but nonetheless, that's what has happened to us in West Virginia.
I hope our coaching staff does well with your money, but I will always resent them leaving us behind.
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I really like the fact that Owen transferred the ball to his outside arm once he was in the open field. Good ball security fundamentals are critical.
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I really liked most of the post Brian, but geez, can't you lay off of Lloyd/Mike/Ron even now?
What was most obvious (if not downright shocking) to me watching that game was how good Michigan team is- players AND COACHING- when healthy. That's something they NEVER had all of 2007. Coordinators had a full toolbox, full resources, and they used them, succesfully. Relentlessly. Devastatingly. Once again, as an underdog, Lloyd and his disrepsected staff outcoached a supposedly better team.
The second-guessing about every thing that didn't go our way since the turn of the century is a bit tedious- and like most predictions for the game- including yours- wrong. You and many of the jackals here are indeed very smart guys, but suffer from that affliction common to most North American males- you don't really know/understand football as well as you think you do. Mistakes are made, for sure, but decisions are often made based in part on considerations that you have no knowledge or comprehension of.
Hope the lesson has been learned, and remembered in the future, when RR or whoever succeeds him eventually comes out less than perfect in your eyes.
I am glad we hired RR and believe we have a bright, bright future...and a proud past.
Go Blue!
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Retards - RR is not the golden hire you all believe him to be.
The Pitt game was the biggest of the season for WVU. The stakes were much higher, and WVU was favored by over four touchdowns. RR lost that game, in the exact same way he lost the South Florida game. It's not as simple as "coaches sometimes lose football games" or whatever you all wish to believe. During this year's USF game WVU lost its QB. OK, though it should have been able to overcome that - it had one of the most highly regarded and potent offenses in the country. I believe one well respected blog titled it "the Greatest Show on Earth". OK, WVU can bounce back from the USF game and still make a run for the title. But wait, the QB goes down again in an even bigger game, with a much weaker opponent. Shouldn't RR have been prepared to handle this exact situation? Isn't it how the title run was almost killed earlier in the same season?
Every big game in recent WVU history has been fucked up in one way or another, largely because of RR; the talent is what made the coaching look good. Before Pat White and Steve Slaton were started, no one knew who the hell RR even was. He won the Sugar Bowl on a trick play, after being up three touchdowns in the first quarter. Last year's Louisville game was blown, and killed WVU's title run. The Gator bowl came down to the wire. USF, USF, and Pitt.
It's no fluke that the Fiesta bowl was a blowout in his absence. And it's only fitting and qualified by the fact that it was won under a tremendous amount of pressure, and with a coach that people are now dismissing.
Good luck with RR and getting Michigan to shift to "the Rodriguez Way". My guess is that it should probably be the other way around, considering that "the Rodriguez Way" fucked up two serious shots at running the table for a BCS title.
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