Wait...Tom Brady played quarterback for Michigan.
Seriously.
second! for Gingell Brabbs Showdown!
Re: $1.8m--there was an unconfirmed rumor (that's redundant, isn't it?) on the Scout board that the contract offered to Miles called for $1.9m as a base salary with another $1m in annual incentives. That figure came from a supposed email sent from one allegedly connected guy to another explaining that Lloyd is going to oversee football in his AAD role and that he was purposely putting the screws to Miles via this contract and other means. Gist of the email, overall, was that Lloyd purposely scared away Miles.
Sailing...
That seems so perfect. I mean, what else would the AD of a respected, tradition laden program like Michigan be doing besides taking the yacht out at the beginning of December?
Dear chap, pass me the bubbly. Golly, is that the telegraph buzzing? I conduct no official business on a Saturday! That is a day of leisure!
God we're lame.
The obvious question there jumps out at me: If the search committee has no teeth... who does?
There better have been some good cocaine and Michael McDonald on that yacht, or I'll really not forgive Martin.
It's becoming painfully obvious this program is more interested in pleasing my 70 year old grandmother than it is giving us anything to be excited about.
If Tom O'Brien becomes our next coach, I will cry. He makes Lloyd look like an innovator and gambler. He's one of the most boring men on earth and he's a mediocre coach. The only bonus would be that we'd probably have really good offensive lines again. The problem would be that we'd never win an important game again.
Still don't see why everyone seems to think that Miles walks on water and "losing" him was such a terrible disaster. Still don't see why everyone is so confident in their predictions that all other candidates will turn out to be blinding disappointments.
Tom Brady played for Michigan? Seriously? Wow, how the hell did that happen?
Oh, and douchebag.
Is it safe to assume that the former player who both was on the phone with Miles Friday night and tried to call the Athletic Department Saturday morning was Wangler?
I'm surprised that Brian is disappointed with Jim Grobe. No, I'm not crazysexyinlove with Jim Grobe, but he's winning at Wake freakin' Forest! That's gotta count for something.
Look, UM, Martin and the AD is doing what Carr does. Operating in a way to keep people in the dark. That's it. Throw out some disinformation,lead people one way while going the other.
If Carr has anything to do with this, it's his best trick play he's ever played..and it wasn't on the football field!
Everyone thinks they know what's going on but, puhllleeeeze...they don't.
You nor I have any say in this. Martin will get who he thinks is the best candidate for the job and he'll do it in secrecy.
GET OVER IT!
oh..and...
GO BLUE!
This post backs up everything I ahve said on every other thread about how this institution hires top positions.
What it tells me, though, that I didn't know is is that Miles is one needy MF. Jeez, show some of the balls you have on the field. "I don't know, what are *you* going to wear?" is so junior high.
Indiana! Let it go!
/Connery
Seriously, Les Miles is not going to be your next coach. Move on already. You don't want him anyway.
@ 83tilinfinity-
yes
You're all douchebags.
Douchebag.
Is this seriously still being written about? We've been through this a jagillion times. What's this point of this? Rehash every rumor, email, tipoff we hear?
Here's that entire quote from the "insulting" quote:
At times like this, you hear all kinds of stories/speculation.
I heard, for example, Michigan's "unofficial" offer to Miles was close to "insulting."
AKA this is them admitting that this may very well be heresay. Any time you say "I HEARD this or that" why is that newsworthy? Seriously please let this go. Everyone has interests to serve, everyone is going to come up with a story that benefits their party...it's called PR, or propaganda if you wanna get controversial.
Oh, and re: the linked Herbstreit article. He keeps re-affirming that his "source" was actually going to be involved in the situation. So that means:
a) Desmond
b) Tenuta
The way that article reads, it somehow makes me think it's Tenuta. But then that would be odd, because all of the information I've heard is that the Tenuta thing was a farce from the beginning.
Whatever...
The sailboat rumor is probably true. Bill Martin owns a 70ft. racing sailboat called Stripes that competes in the Port-Huron-Mackinac race and Chicago-Mackinac race every year. Now he's not out sailing it in the Great Lakes right now, but he may be on a different boat down south this past weekend. He is a member of Bayview Yacht Club and probably was participating in a different regatta. Google Stripes, Santa Cruz 70 and you will find that he is the owner.
As far as the rumor that he couldn't be gotten a hold of because he was on his boat is complete bullshit if true. This coaching job is more important that racing his boats.
Nice. It appears Bill Martin has taken the same stance as William Clay Ford. The maize and blue athletics is just a cash cow. "Hey Mary Sue....Grab an utter and lets suck this bitch dry"!
nice boat
Why exactly would O'Brien be horrifying? Dude can coach, and he's been recruiting pretty well at NC. St., despite having Butch Davis et al to recruit against. I think he would do well at UM.
I put little stock in who Brian wants to be our next coach. I live in the Bay Area and a lot of fans of the Cal program would love to see Tedford hit the road. I do not want this guy at all, yet Brian has been enamoured with him since Day 1.
We are the worst.
I put little stock in who Brian wants to be our next coach. I live in the Bay Area and a lot of fans of the Cal program would love to see Tedford hit the road. I do not want this guy at all, yet Brian has been enamoured with him since Day 1.
Agreed.
I hate Michigan continually taking punches like Rocky Balboa. When are we going to switch handedness and fight back?
so right now, all we know is that we being barraged with a snowstorm of misinformation.
At least thats what i am hoping for, since its all pretty depressing stuff
While they are at it, can they make Tebow break a leg and have Urban get committed to an asylum or something? You know, just to keep us happy thru the holiday, then there can be some miracle recorvery or whatever. Ah hell, Tebow could put up 41 against us by himself, with 2 broken legs.
Tommy Bowden IS staying at Clemson, by the way (not sure if fans of the "C-L-I-M-P-S-O-N" are actually pleased about that)...English is at least that much closer to going to Are-Kansas.
Urban's too busy crying to be committed.
As long as Ar-kansas agrees to never play OSU, USC, Appalachian State, or Oregon, English should do fine there.
The sailboat rumor is probably true. Bill Martin owns a 70ft. racing sailboat called Stripes that competes in the Port-Huron-Mackinac race and Chicago-Mackinac race every year. Now he's not out sailing it in the Great Lakes right now, but he may be on a different boat down south this past weekend. He is a member of Bayview Yacht Club and probably was participating in a different regatta. Google Stripes, Santa Cruz 70 and you will find that he is the owner.
John | 12.04.07 - 12:30 pm |
The sailboat rumor is probably true because the guy owns a boat and sails in the Port Huron to Mackinac? My dad was probably sailing this weekend, too, then.
Are-Kansas tried to play USC already, and fairly recently.
Results were not pretty and only reaffirm the reasons SEC schools don't like to travel outside the region.
Douchebag.
The kittens, people, think of the kittens!
Happy sailing Bill...Spalding, get your foot off the boat!
Oh, and re: the linked Herbstreit article. He keeps re-affirming that his "source" was actually going to be involved in the situation. So that means:
a) Desmond
b) Tenuta
The way that article reads, it somehow makes me think it's Tenuta. But then that would be odd, because all of the information I've heard is that the Tenuta thing was a farce from the beginning.
Whatever...
83tilinfinity | 12.04.07 - 12:29 pm | #
Tenuta had occurred to me as well, yesterday before I read this thing. He wasn't at OSU while Herbstreit was, but they are both Cooper guys, which was what made me think of it. Maybe Tenuta was contacted by Miles about a job and then had to do some fancy footwork after it all fell apart?
Out of curiosity, Brian, why the hell would a coach whose team went from #2 at midseason to "thank God Arizona lost, or we wouldn't be going to a bowl game at all" by December 1 rate a "WOOOO"?
Judy Tenuta?
Hey, they shouldn't be sailing on the Great Lakes this late...I have it on good authority that it is best to go (as the mariners all know) with the gales of November remembered.
If you can't trust the word of a granola-chewing alcoholic Canadian folk singer, just who the hell CAN you trust?
You guys really need to get it together up there. The way you are filling your coaching vacancies is becoming a national joke.
If you could read my mind, Johnny.
Also, douchebag.
Tedford did a horrible job this year. They were less than 20 yards away from being #1. They proceeded to lose that game to Oregon State and 5 of their next 6. He lost his team. Couldn't rally the troops. That's the sign of a bad coach.
No To Tedford.
Desmond + Tenuta= Desmond Tutu, the real source. And you thought the search wasn't politically motivated...
To fit in with our obsession of douchebags and arguing politics on a sports blog:
http://www.343guiltysnark.com/wp.../
douchebag2.jpg
Thought it was funny.
anti-Tedford:
Exactly.
I agree NO TEDFORD.
Tedford had a sparty like breakdown...that's too close for comfort. No.
Tedford? Douchebag.
re: Tedford
I thought losing our last 2 games was bad...this guy has the potential to start bleeding us out before homecoming...
Hell, I'll coach your team.
As this drags on the AD is digging themselves a deeper hole. The majority want Miles, the search Committee wants Miles, and he's clearly the best fit due to his coaching, history with the school, and the fact he LOVES the school. No other coach is going to get a fair shake from the fans as long as Les is at LSU winning while we're going 8-4 in an inferior conference with some Lloyd clone. This has disaster written all over it. I feel like I'm living through the time when ND blew the O'Leary/Willingham hiring, except its my favorite team pissing down its own leg.
Lloyd will end up living in infamy in Michigan history for doing this.
I was gonna poke fun but this search is rendering my lustful burning hatred for you, to a knd of pitying feeling watching the titanic sink (boat pun intended)
With you guys in the dumper for the foreseeable future we have to go out and play USC as Home & Home and da U to have any kind of strength of schedule. Hopefully Wisky or the Illini can bulk up so we can maintain our annual migration to a BCS bowl and yearly contention for a national championship.
Does anyone conside Al Groh as a candidate?
Going from #2 in the country to 6-6 with a loss to Stanford = Going from #5 in the country to losing to Appalachian State and Ohio State.
I'm not sure I see much of an upgrade here.
Anyone who uses the word "douchebag" is inherently a douchebag. Oops... Crap.
The longer there is a total lack of any concrete action or information from Michigan the worse and worse this looks in terms of public perception and landing a quality coaching candidate.
Right now they give the appearance of following no plan at all and not having any plan for the foreseeable future.
This is not encouraging.
We're all Michigan men. I coached there, Mike and Doug played there. Mike's the D coordinator at rival Illinois (who beat #1 OSU this year). Doug is on Miles' staff in Baton Rouge. I'm not doing anything.
Hire us as a package deal!
Bill Mallory
Criss Cross likes to sail. Maybe him and BM and Mike Debord went sailing together.
Takes me away from where I am going....do do do whoop...do do do whoop....
Ooh, she may get woozy. Young girls they do get woozy....
Mike Debord. I am all for this guy. Offensive genius I tell you. He was of OC in 1997! What more proof do you need?
Right now they give the appearance of looking stubborn and old fashioned. It appears they are going to stick to a traditional selection process with interviews. Slow, methodical, and risk averse. Is anyone really surprised?
As for public perception, we shouldn't get TOO caught up in it. A year from now what the sports radio guys and columnist are saying about the potential hiring will be irrelevant.
Dude, nothing is fucked. come on, you're being very unDude...Ya see? Nothing is fucked up here,Dude. Nothing is fucked...
We need the Dufek brothers. Man, talk about a dream team! Billy and Donny Dufek!
And Mike Debord.
Donny Dufek is interviewing today.
Can we stage a non-violent gathering at the front gate of the athletic dept? imagine it... signs with "we want miles" "bring les home" "I am a michigan man AND i want les miles to coach my wolverines"
enough people and you may get a little news coverage. we may get banners on the houses all over campus. we could hand out flyers with pictures of les titled "have you seen our coach? Bring him home!"
anyone up for it?
There's nothing inherently wrong with traditional and old-fashioned methods, but Michigan's coaching search is not taking place in a vacuum.
At the rate Michigan *appears* to be moving, there is a significant risk that English may move on and we will be forced to appoint MDB as head coach and endure all the horrors that would result.
Everything right now is a sourceless rumor. All we can do is state an opinion/thoughts. With that being said, it is my baseless opinion/feeling that Jim Grobe will be our next head coach. I think i'm OK with that.
bluewolverine (EECS '01)-
Or worse.
I am a plumber and whilst fixing BM's toilet today I overhead him on the phone taking with Mike Debord. Apparently, Debord is ok with taking UM apparel for pay and would not fire Englash.
Mike Debord=National Championship.
Read the Harvard debacle piece when you get a minute. That shit is funny, especially the stuff about the Sign Guy. From the comments section:
"Biggie saw one of the best signs of all time at the Millen Man March in Detroit last year. During the march some dude had a homemade sign that read “I Still Hate Ainge” with a photo of Danny A. wearing his Celtic nut-huggers."
People, let's keep our heads here. Yes, this may end up with Oh the Humanity. Or it may end up with some wilder than our craziest fantasies superduper new HC. But either way, let's keep our heads on straight and try to show some ability to handle adversity here.
Sheesh, we all sit around and bitch at the players when they make a mistake. Now's our turn to perform, and we can do nothing better than panic? C'mon already.
I've got issues with Lloyd, but in the end, he was a great representative for M.
So, to quote the quoter:
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs ...
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster and treat those two imposters just the same ..."
So yeah, the internets are here to intertain us, and this crazy nutso stuff can be fun, be we're losing for the most part.
Let's keep our heads. We could come out of this with a beautiful new beginning for M football.
Let's see if we can offer some sanity to this. Before anybody burns theire Desmond jersey or cries or starts rooting for the Vest. Please consider the following coaching searches and the average fan reaction.
Tressel-What??? How do we hire this guy?? He doesn't even coach D1 football, we're on to our 4th choice, we can't beat Michigan the program is in shambles.
Carroll-We hired a NFL retread and we go tturned down by guys with jobs at Oregon and Oregon St. USC is officially dead.
Weis-YESS!!!! WE got a guy that can recruit and bring back the swagger.
Richt-Well he is from Florida St and we suck so I'll give him a chance even though he has never been a head coach.
Meyer-Awesome we have great talent and he will mold it. Good Call.
Miles-Why are we hiring this guy, we have NC talent and he's done nothing at OSU to warrant this job.
Stoops-We're Oklahoma why are we hiring a coordinator with no head coaching experience, that's not from around here??
You never know, it's frustrating, I agree but the sky isn't falling yet.
Chris Peterson, or Chuck Martin.. my gut feeling... and does anyone think we will know anything till the next HC is in AA signing on that dotted line? The Miles stuff came out because the LSU AD went public with it to and the rumor mills churning, and force Les' hand.
Plus, Miles is 55... I really think we should be looking at someone younger, M man notwithstanding...
Can we stage a non-violent gathering at the front gate of the athletic dept? imagine it... signs with "we want miles" "bring les home" "I am a michigan man AND i want les miles to coach my wolverines"
enough people and you may get a little news coverage. we may get banners on the houses all over campus. we could hand out flyers with pictures of les titled "have you seen our coach? Bring him home!"
anyone up for it?
Martin needs to act decisively and fast to avoid significant additional damage to the program after last Saturday's debacle. The problem is that he shows no signs of being able or willing to do so.
How come nobody ever mentions my name?
I think an anti-Deboring/English/Hoke rally would be equally as constructive. Can we merge the two themes somehow?
Joey's entire letter is one gigantic unsourced rumor, and should be taken as such. So it came from a former player. I count 2 former U of M players as among my friends, and NEITHER of them have any better idea of what is happening than we do. Being an alum of the team doesn't put you on some super-secret mailing list.
Tom Brady played at Michigan. He was a backup to Drew Hensen, who was a douchebag.
I really think you need to give JoePa and Bobby Bowden a look. They coached great in my youth, when I was wont to wear an onion on my lapel.
Bluewolverine wrote:
there is a significant risk that English may move on
Significant risk? of losing ENGLISH? I'm sorry, but did you watch our defense this year? Do you know who we're playing in the bowl game? Tebow might combine for 1000yards rush/pass and be accountable for 10 TDs.
Significant risk? YIKES!!!!
Ok, I think I have one year of eligibility left. Can I come back? My dad's available to coach, so you get 2 birds with one stone.
For the purposes of reference, click here for the Profile in Heroism on Jeff Tedford.
Also, douchebag.
I know you are probably all wondering where I have been today. Just kidding!
But seriously, these new posts are getting a bit out of hand. I sometimes like rumors as much as the next guy, but they are all starting to sound the same, which leads to everyone on here arguing the same moot points day after day. How many times are we going to beat this into the ground? Miles may or may not have gotten f-ed by Michigan, here is list xyz of who could potentially be the next coach at Michigan. Here is why I like candidate x while someone responds back here is why I don't like candidate x for the 9,000,000th time. Why isn't candidate B on the list? This is why candidate B is not on the list for the 87,000th time. It's obvious after this past weekend they are going to be extremely tight lipped on it. Can we really blame them?
I have crossed over to the other side on this issue and until we find a new coach and it is announced I'm kinda over it lol. I have let Miles go and I was one of his biggest supporters, the rest of us probably should too! :)
Cfaller (and DanK, if around)
Re: profile in heroism:
I was thinking that if Brian doesn't want any sort of help, we could open a short-lived "U of M Profiles in Heroism" blog, split the work, and at the very least, the few of us interested would have some content to read.
The only significant risk associated with English leaving is that it would put Debord one step closer being HC which in turn would signify the end of the world as we know it.
Done. Letter written.
The Realest article on top 10 coaches made me laugh. I love the mention of John Cooper being 10-2-1 against tOSU. It shouldn't be, but it is somehow extremely funny to me to think about it that way. This coaching search is KILLING my productivity as well.
Can we please get some Chris Peterson love Brian? He's at least the same level as Brian Kelly, and not a douchebag. Also, he blows Grobe/Pinkel/Obrien/Hoke/Ferentz out of the water.
I'm so torn at this process. I think there is a slight possibility it might heat up now that only the bowl games are left. For this ridiculous example, if Martin was going to contact Stoops, he'd be doing it now. However, if we don't have a coach by the new year (and no interim), I can only believe it is because we are getting Stoops/Miles/Meyer. I am just unable to believe, that with MONTHS to prepare and research a list of candidates, Martin would fail to make a hire before 2008 unless it was a coach in a BCS bowl.
Definition of a true Michigan fan: Unlike Notre Dame fans, you realize how freaking unrealistic something is, can disassociate yourself from it, but hope for the .05% chance it can happen. I mean, Miles is gone, Stoops is gone, Urban isn't coming, but, it's feasible in that .05% scenario isn't it?
/head asplodes
chitownblue, I guess I'd be ok with it, except that I'd feel a little dirty about stealing one of Brian's ideas and running with it.
I haven't emailed Brian yet. I wonder if he'll respond.
Did you see that chimpanzee vs. humans thing on ABC last night?
Chimps were smarter than humans--college student humans.
Got me to thinking....
Why couldn't a chimp be a champ at UM?
I'm telling you, we get the right chimp in place and the team would go bananas. Chimp probably be pretty cheap 2. There has to be some monkey around that would take the job.
Hire the CHIMP!
im sorry to tell you guys....
sometimes the best coach, isnt the best known coach. Some places may need a big name coach to get recruits, michigan does not. How many times this year did i or others cooent on the lack of "coaching" that was going on concerning game planning, game changes, or player technique... michigan needs the best "coach" not the best name....
and i for one, hope they take their time, and find him.
Before I accept the position, I need to know if AA has any 24 hour buffet places. I love the ones that have both the prime rib and the leg of lamb. Gravy is good too. I like fried chicken, ribs, meatloaf, and turkey. I love to wash them down with a large diet coke. Gotta watch my waist.
WOOO on Tedford?!?!?! Tell me you aren't serious.
I was high on him too and I think all coaches are entitled to one bad year if the circumstances are understandable. But Tedford had a clearly talented team (September wins over Tennessee and Oregon) that quit and fell apart. That is a huge red flag.
It is either a red flag about him as a motivator that he wasn't able to stop the ship from sinking or as a recruiter if he has assembled a group of kids with no competitive fire.
For as many things as there were to like about him, the way Cal's season went terrifies me.
Hey guys, I heard I was a candidate. If you hire me, MTV will do a reality show on the life and times in Ann Arbor. Through the divorce, scandals and bastard kids in the Probst family, I know I can be a Michigan man.
zomg!@! how about brian kelly?!?> why no one talk about him yet?
chuck martin is the man!
i heard urban meyer is coming!
im a doctor and me patient say bob stoops is on his way!
lloyd scewwed les!
les screweed les!
i can do bill martins job better than him!
rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble rabble
Hire the chimp!
As long as Brian tags stuff as rumors, I completely appreciate having a single source for all the rivals/scout/other message boards/pipe dreams/rumors out there. The best part of this blog is Brian has great commentary, and it contains facts/news/analysis/rumors/etc, and it is all properly labeled. He also presents FACTS and RUMORS separately, not like the MSM, which turns rumors into facts, and presents opinions as facts as well. I'm still seething over Mitch Albom's hack job article about money.
I now support the candidacy of Mike Debord, not as a winner but as a purgative or laxative for the inner Michigan football family. Sometimes there is something ailing you that will affect the health of everything else, and nothing good will happen until that bad thing is eliminated from the body.
Take two years of MD, drink plenty of fluids (preferably containing alcohol), and at the end the situation will be more conducive to making the changes that need to happen.
Hire the chimp!
Hire the chimp.
Dear Bill Martin,
Thank you for not hiring a crazy man.
Sincerely,
AAB
Hiring Mike Debord as HC will make the fact that Comcast won't carry the BTN perfectly acceptable. Someone should point out to Bill Martin that the goal of the BTN isn't to broadcast every UM game because we suck.
00goblue00,
I'm with you on that sentiment.......UM is tight lipped to begin with....after the "debacle" over the weekend, there going to be even more tight lipped......they'll interview several people and somebody will wow them and knock their socks off....then we can begin preparing for the 2008 season.
Until then, lets watch hockey, pray that bball can find its way this winter, monitor recruiting and get excited for the College World Series run this spring.
elnolewis-
Yes I'll could go for chimp as the coach. 2 conditions though:
1. He has to wear a little trucker hat.
2. He has to hire Chuck Martin as the D.Cord.
I still heart Miles and i'm rooting for LSU.
Hire the chimp!
I'll be excited for the CWS as long as we don't lose our HC to a higher paying job.
Michigan: We play on hardmode.
NO, the chimp is a douchebag.
Hire me. I'll kick all of their asses.
cfaller96 is a hater
huh?, Inca Kola:
I should've clarified my "losing English" post.
The appearance is that Michigan is conducting this coaching search at a glacial pace. The risk of using this method is that all of the desirable coaching candidates wind up staying put or signing elsewhere...
...thus leaving English and MDB as "desirable" (using the term loosely!) in-house candidates for the AD. Note English has already received a 2nd interview. Employers usually don't hold 2nd interview unless they have some level of interest.
In addition, English has already had an interview with Arkansas, and his West Coast ties make it probable he gets looks from UCLA and Washington State.
Not Michigan level programs by any stretch, but English would be THE MAN at either. Most people would rather run their own show than have the associate AD casting a long shadow over them. Expectations at either program would also be lower than they are at Michigan.
I AM Hoover Football.
I admit, I'm starting to become a rumormonger-hater. Give me stats, numbers, some sort of analysis beyond "he sucks" or "he's awesome." I'm tired, and I want something new. Waaaaah.
Don't get me wrong, I still like Miles too and hope he kicks the shit out of OSU in the NC game. As far as coming here though, I have finally gotten to the acceptance point while at the same time realizing how ridiculous it was for me to hold out hope for so long that he was coming here. I'm with Jamie Mac lets talk about something else like basketball, or maybe for a laugh speculate what Mark Mangino eats in one sitting. jk of course.
Okay, now why does the chimp need to be a douche bag? He sounds like a smart guy...
Guy who must be rolling in his grave...Don Canham. Some of Canham's hires: Schembechler, Johnny Orr, Bill Frieder, and Red Berenson. Okay Orr and Frieder were assistant elevations and Frieder had a legacy of NCAA Tournament underachievement and the ill-timed ASU departure. Still Frieder's players won the NC. At least our basketball program was relevant on the Big Ten and NCAA scene. Saturday's debacle with Miles and then Martin's first basketball hire beating his second basketball hire with an Ivy League team was rich.
For as successful and powerful Schembechler was, he always knew and respected that Canham was his boss (may not have liked it, but knew it). Think Canham would have been controlled by Lloyd Carr or Canham would have told Lloyd to follow his orders on who was going to hire and issue a public statement in support?
Coming later today...
Profiles in Douchebaggery, Part 1: The Chimp
Also, just read the piece on the Horror at Harvard. Loved the part about the play-by-play guy creepily putting his family picture in front of not only himself, but also Jimmy King. WTF is that about?
@Daniel L: I thought we ponied up big cash last spring to keep our baseball coach in the fold..is my memory correct...or did I have one too many boat drinks this summer followed by several too many drink-the-Horror-away and drink-cuz-we're-down-10-at-the-half to Northwestern shots this fall?!?!?
Cfaller,
I understand the "feeling dirty", aspect, particularly if the same name were used ("profiles in heroism"). That said, Brian doesn't have sole domain over writing profiles of coaching candidates...and I wonder if he has the inclination to do so right now.
Since I'm still relatively new here and haven't picked up all the lingo...is it safe to assume that "The Horror" is the Appy State game?
Bill-
You get the coach, I'll get the talent. Here's my list:
1) Rodriguez
2) Pederson (said no to UCLA)
3) Chuck Martin
Oh, and just to keep up: douchebag.
ok football talk...
what worries me and florida more than anything else isnt the qb draw... the reason is becasue unlike the other spread runners we have seen dixon, juice. Tebow does not sell hte pass fake very well, it is not a delayed draw, its almost like a qb isso, or lead... which is beeter for michigan, since it gives our uncoached dl' less time to getup field and out of possition..
the part im worried about is the option pass... tebow is great at faking the run and passing.. either with the jump dump passs over the middle, or the down the line true option pass... with the way that our safities are expected to fill cut bakc lanes, because of the inablilty of our lb's to be coached right, or to get oof blocks, i fear this is a big problem for michigans defense...
thats my first thoughts on it anyways...
All these options completely suck.
Shoulda been Miles. What a JOKE.
And by Chimp are you referring to CAUP?
Ed Martin might have a bit of trouble paying the talent.
Unless he is a zombie.
I left my cash to Webber via my will. Is all good. Add Chimp to my list as #4 option.
Oooh! Hail to the Chimp is on...
I hope Les Miles wins his national title and destroys the Vest. He had shown nothing but love for M all year and the administration completely fucked him in this process. We deserve shit like Lloyd. I am embarrassed that we treated one of our own like that. At least call him assholes.
The fan base wanted him, he wanted M, and the AD fucked it all up. We dont deserve him, victories over the vest, or national titles. People get the leader they deserve----Lloyd/Debord.
Florida will crush UM (anyone who believes differently is on crack).
USC will crush Illinois.
The Big 10 will look like the joke that it is. Or has become. I'd rather have seen Florida play USC. Who wouldn't rather see that?!
The BCS is a freakin' joke. It's all about $$$.
gsimmons85,
I'm worried about chris graham and obi ezeh trying to tackle Tim Tebow.
And, as always, i am worried if our offensive gameplan will take advantage of the talent it has on hand.
I agree completely with Gingell. I am still hoping for a miracle, though.
I hate rooting for and loving a team run by inbreeding morons.
chitownblue, yeah, I know Brian doesn't have a copyright on it or anything, I just feel like that might be a little dickish, that's all.
But you're right, if the rumormongering keeps up for too long, we may just have to do something on our own...
cfaller96-
I understand. But hating a chimp isn't cool.
So here's a link regarding Chuck Martins recruiting for GVSU.
http://gvsulakers.cstv.com/sport...footbl-
mtt.html
Here's a link regarding Chuck Martin under Brian Kelley. Keep in Mind Chuck Martin became Brian Kelly's Defensive Coordinator 2001-2003. Brian Kelly had an average to good record until Martin showed up.
Here's a link to Chuck Martin at GVSU.
http://gvsulakers.cstv.com/
sport...in_chuck00.html
Heres an article from Terry Foster regarding Chuck Martin and GVSU.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs...332/
OPINION0317
For anyone who cares GVSU is playing this Saturday at 9pm on espn2.
00goblue00 -
I actually believe that Appalachian St. = "The Endless Fiasco". I think Oregon = "The Horror".
Ok, the chimp has agreed to tentative terms. He doesn't like having to keep Englash and Deboag, but he says he'll deal with it for now. The boosters may not be happy, but the chimp autoerotica'd all over the place.
The chimp wants the fock lion to coach the D.
I'm worried about Chris Graham and Obi Ezeh trying to tackle the chimp.
@ Gingell
I hope Les Miles calls a time out after an interception again. That way people will realize he's clueless.
Did we really offer Les the same salary he has at LSU?!?!
Oh my. That IS really insulting. Wow.
You know, I'm starting to just think the vast majority of our problems is our S&C program. We can stop the spread (Purdue, MSU) but not with a mobile QB (Oregon, App State). We can beat fast but not strong (Northwestern) and can beat strong but not fast (PSU), but lose to fast and strong (Oregon, USC, Texas, tOSU).
Clearly we recruit fast players (Crable, Breaston, CBrown, Donovan Warren). After watching Oklaholma's speedy, punishing defense, I can't believe they recruited that much differently from us. Their defense was just much more explosive.
Clearly UM fails (HIT blows) at physically developing players. However, I think that the players are also put in a position to fail. Why is Crable the LB always in charge of keeping contain? It's a complete waste of his speed. Any LB can get back there, and I'm sure a smarter one would not blow contain half the time. Seems to me Crable would be the ideal QB spy, easily playing a drop zone to take away the middle of the field, but fast enough to keep the QB from taking off. Also, why wasn't Crable the LB on the Wisconsin tight end?
I'm just confused why we don't better utilize our players. Our S&C program clearly doesn't do us any favors, but then we only hurt ourselves by not putting players in better position to excel.
There is a very sick part of me that wants Michigan to hire Chuck Martin and watch us go 3-9 for the next 4 seasons.
Anonymous 1:47,
Believe it or not, but I'm leaning towards taking Illinois +13 and going under 51.....Illini D is for real, USC has not put together a great offense this year...at least not as good as Palmer's senior year or the Leinart years.....they've kind of stopped and started all year.....Carroll makes great halftime adjustments, typically, so that worries me....but any team who can go into the Shoe and control the game like that can do the dame thing to USC.....dont sleep on Illinois.
Davis will thwart Booty once or twice; Lehman will be all over the field and Illini's D-front can beat USC O-line.....our game w/ the Illini next September already worries me.
(sigh) So I guess the GVSU mafia is going to insist on a Profile in Heroism on Chuck Martin?
For the record, I have no opinion on and no knowledge of Chuck Martin. And please do not take that as an invitation to inform me of Chuck Martin's greatness. I'm serious.
chitown-
Thanks for the clarification. I like to know what it means when I'm reading :)
Maybe it's the Martin Mafia. Are Ed, Bill, and Chuck all related?
@ 00goblue00,
Yes, the horror was first used to describe Appy State. However, it has proven quite a convenient adjective to descrbe a few other Lloyd aided f-ups
The coaching search,
Michigan football 2001-2006
HIT is the devil. Spend 5 minutes on any weight training/bodybuilding/powerlifting forum and search for HIT topics. The people that subscribe to it are insane
Ok, I now have the chimp in my office and he is taking questions. Ask away. I will translate immediately for you.
Dex,
You wont be around for that....the GVSU mafia will have fittted you for concrete shoes and dumped you into Lake Michigan by then.....while you are in heaven, though, you get to watch 1997 Michigan bitch slap 1997 Nebraska over and over again...so you'll come out ahead!
@cfaller
You don't know about THE Chuck Martin? He is only the single GREATEST COACH EVER.
I heard most teams don't even play GVSU, they just forfeit right away to avoid embarrassment.
He also cures cancer with his semen.
Ok, elnolewis, I'll start:
What kind of offense would the Chimp run? If it's the spread, would he run the "Vince Young Runalot" spread or the "Purdue QB Cumshot" spread?
Profiles in Heroism... there it is.
On a pure numbers basis, if we look at the defensive stats for this season:
Rushing:
Michigan: 150.8/ypg
Florida: 99.3/ypg
Passing:
Michigan: 179.7/ypg
Florida: 249.0/ypg
Totally oversimplified, but on the numbers alone it appears as though Michigan is going to have a tough time running on Florida and would be wise to pass. Pray that Henne is as healthy as possible and that MM and AA have their heads in the game, or at least wish to raise their draft stock.
Florida could probably have success with a balanced or run heavy attack. Georgia appeared to beat Florida with a balanced attack. Somehow, their top back Moreno had a career night with 188 yards on Florida.
@ AAB,
Les has enough of a clue to hire good coordinators to make up for his shortcomings. Prideful Lloyd would do no such thing. He is the real clueless one.
@Jamie
I already had to avoid an auto accident during my lunch break when a GVSU colored van tried to run me into a telephone pole.
As always, you're information is up to date and right on the mark...
But to suggest that the fans can do anything to sway the athletic administration and His Holiness Carr, I think you are sorely mistaken...It took mupltiple blunders of epic proportions to get the last AD canned...Remember the Halo, the Internet and the Goss mess? He was finally let go and things got a little better... No, Bill Martin thinks he knows what he's doing at a school who hasn't had to play the head football coach search game...Ever. And I am pretty sure that this group was not completely sold on Miles and they believe that they can "do better" with someone else. But send your letters if you feel it will help...Or just call and cancel next year's season tickets when they hire the wrong guy. That might speak louder than a letter...
MMQ
@dex
We need a coach who can defeat the spread, not cure cancer with his semen. Jeez.
Next!
You know, all this bashing on Les for that timeout he tried to call after the interception is stupid. Who cares? Lloyd doesn't even use timeouts (see the Texas game where he decided to let the game be settled on a 40yd field goal). It makes much more sense to protect your players from the possibility of failing. This way the game was all on Texas, not on freshman Henne trying to lead a drive with 45seconds left. Can you actually argue that a few stupid mistakes in the heat of a game is worse than the gross mismanagement and pure failure to coach that is Lloyd Carr and his staff?
Obviously to beat Florida we need to bring the entire team onto the field to celebrate the 1st TD.
Unfortunately, that might be in the 4th quarter.
about fast and explosive...
2 things
#1 crable is not as fast as advertised.... the play we use to justify his spead was more about desire and angle, than spead, any football guy knows about pursuit angles... he is fast, but not as fast as any of the lb's at OK.
#2 players can not be explosive when they either distrust wheather or not their teammates will do their jobs, thus freeing them up to do their jobs and their jobs only full speed, or if they are confused as to their responsiblity..... all of that falls on the shoulders of the positon coaches... imo
@ Gingell
If Les's biggest strength is that he hires good coordinators, why not just hire the coordinators?
The valid criticisms of Carr all come from his in-game coaching, right? Doesn't adjust well, etc. In-game coaching is exactly Les Miles' biggest weakness. He's proven it game after game. People keep saying they want something different from the new head coach. Les Miles isn't something different. He's just the flipside of bad in-game coaching; crazy aggressive with shitty clock management.
Dude, nothing is fucked. come on, you're being very unDude...Ya see? Nothing is fucked up here,Dude. Nothing is fucked...
El Duderino | 12.04.07 - 1:01 pm | #
"Nothing is Fucked?! Nothing is Fucked?! THE GODDAMNED PLANE HAS CRASHED INTO THE BUILDING!!!"
God, I hope some "new shit is about to come to light"... which we were-not-aware of, dude...
BILG-
I agree it could be used to describe any of of those things lol :)
@Bluewolverine-Georgia just beat Florida the hell up. They actually weren't doing anything terribly fancy. They pounded Florida on the ground and then went up top to Massaquoi. I think we actually match up very, very well against their D.
Now our D is a different story.
@Daniel L,
The national perception of UM is that it is the place where 5-star recruits go to get slower and weaker.....give me an updated and modern S/C program and just about any coach, on anyone's lst will have us kicking ass like we used to kick ass.....oh, and a little extra focus on special teams wont hurt either.
We used to run the same plays over and over again yet nobody could stop us......we still have the same playbook, but now our opposition is faster and stronger than us, and we look confused and suck....i'm convinced that the zone blocking we run now is an attempt to circumvent the fact that we cant man up and go head to head anymore, but of course, with the D-line always faster than our O-line.....well, you get the picture.
jamie,
so is the michigan staff (worried about the tackling of the lb's) thats why we sue so much safety support....
The chimp says he would run a version of the veer/spread/power offense. It depends on which QB he puts in the game. He's high on McGuffie and Christian Wilson--wants to adjust the offense to their skill set. Says he will kick Manningham off the team. Steven Threet may get more reps, 2.
Jamie,
USC is playing pretty much a home game. Booty is back. They looked scary good in their last game.
Who's Illinois' QB? Oh yeah. He's gonna die. The USC secondary will own those young, inexperienced receivers.
The Illini running game will perish under the USC linebackers speed. Remember the UM game last year?
Sure, the Illini will get a few stops. A few.
The line is ONLY 13? The under looks good though. For some reason. Have to admit. 35-10. My prediction.
@Duderino, RHammer
Obviously, the reason Martin didn't call Miles is because he was observing Shomer shabbos.
He told him a thousand times he doesn't negotiate on Shabbos!
BTW - by chimp, do we mean el presidente? or this one...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hu...3/chimp-memory/
I guess for our sake, I'd take the second one, because (a) he's apparently got better short-term memory than college students (hmm... wonder why that could be?), and (b) the actual thought of the president prowling our sidelines in an "M" hat and head-set is causing me to go into convulsions...
douchebags
gsimmons:
He ran down Ringer. I'm not sure what you mean about angles, but Ringer was running straight up the sideline. There is no pursuit angle that lends itself to catching him from behind. That is just pure speed.
Daniel L-
Thanks for another fantastic post!
You are correct that HIT is garbage. It only works if you are a professional body-building, drug-enhanced, genetic freak like Mike Mentzer, Casey Viator, or Dorian Yates.
Yates may not be the best example, since he had to modify the basic HIT principles to achieve his bodybuilding titles.
Yeah, and the bodybuilders that use HIT are going for pure size. Power comes with that, but they definitely aren't worried about speed and agility.
Uh the entire point of a pursuit angle is to catch a guy running straight from behind without being faster than him in a head to head race.
You didn't play much LB, did ya?
ringer ran, horizontal back across the field, then vertical up the sideline.... crable, got up, ran diagonal across the field, he ran about 40 yards less then ringer... the last couple of steps, when he caught him, was ringer running an extra half a field.... that is angle pursuit....
note crable getting left by two less then fast qb's
Can't remember where I saw this, but Jim Grobe was quoted as saying that he's happy at Wake Forest, but that he's not "certain" it's his last stop.
This came up in reference to the fact that he interviewed for the Nebraska job.
Sounds like he would listen to offers. And he's not on record as saying "no" to Michigan.
Um, Dex, do you understand triangles? Let's look at it this way. You are on the right sideline at the goal line. I am 30 yards to your left across the field, but also on the goal line. For me to catch you on the 40yard line, I would have to run 50 yards to your 40 yards. A pursuit angle ONLY makes sense if you are in FRONT of the person. You will never catch a person from behind if they are faster than you. End of story.
@ Dix:
"I hate Michigan continually taking punches like Rocky Balboa. When are we going to switch handedness and fight back?"
Probably somewhere around Round 10, when we improbably start winning over the Russian crowd.
Seriously though, if I can change, and you can change...then maybe Bill Martin can change?
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Enough with the chimp. Elnolewis, you are... the Douchiest Link. Goodbye.
People do realize we're talking about the same Bill Martin who conducted a flawless search for Bball coach just a few months ago right?
The man has earned more trust than anyone here is giving him.
Have you ever done an angle of pursuit drill? Ever?
But I STILL think we could get LM if we wanted him. He KEEPS leaving openings. And now he probably won't sign a contract until after the NC. But since the buyout is the same, the new conract does not mean much except the asking price has gone up.
I've changed my mind on Miles. I've gone from being very pissed off at him to upset with the U-M Admin over its handling of this. The guy just wants to know he has the job before he gives up a good thing. Who wouldn't want the same thing in his position?
RE: his comments. He's in a corner now. He is saying what he has too, but if he wins an NC and leaves for Mich, no one will really trash him. What more could he do for LSU?
@ AAB,
I was never one of the big Miles proponents and agree that he has not proven himself a great game day coach. But Carr was one of the worst---always having underachieving seasons, run left strategy, and unprepared teams. I always said Carr was one of the worst 25 coaches in Div 1A, but was lucky to have this program cover his flaws. It's like giving the keys to one of the fastest 5 cars in a race (Michigan's program), to one of the worst 120 drivers (the coaches). You can only f-up so bad.
Further, I was never a Miles fan, but at least he has balls and passion. Lloyd didn't even have that these past few years.
In terms of defending Miles, I think our AD did him wrong here, and it is embarrassing. If he wasnt the guy, fine, but they f-ed this up ridiculously.
And lastly---Miles managed 33-6 in the toughest conference over the past 3 years. Did he lose some he should't have---probably. But obviously he's doing something right.
"ringer ran, horizontal back across the field, then vertical up the sideline.... crable, got up, ran diagonal across the field, he ran about 40 yards less then ringer... the last couple of steps, when he caught him, was ringer running an extra half a field.... that is angle pursuit...."
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I'm moving the chimp up to #3 on my list. What with all the bananas he'll have the players eating, and all the potassium they'll be getting...
BTW, on the basketball program. Let's all just chill. Beilein is an excellent coach who has made his system work everywhere he's been. But it takes time. Everyone on that roster is in LEARN mode right now. We keep hearing how it's one of the most complex systems in college BB. Let's let the guy do what he does. This time next year there will be big improvements.
daniel you do realize, that ringer ran across the field first right, think of it as he ran two sides of the triangle, to crables 1.
crbale is a very average football player, who makes big plays, but misses on more big plays, and plays out of control, we will be a better defense without him, if the next in line is coachable.... english has been frustrated with his lack of doing his job, all season long. now like i said, perhaps its becasue crable doesnt turst others to do their jobs, idk.
Anon,
I was thinking something like 21-10 USC.....but, I am a believer in the Illini D....very talented, fast and well coached, believe it or not.
Think it plays out a lot like last year's Granddaddy.....a real low scoring first half....USC flexes itself in the second half, sure....but Juice does not throw a INT into the USC D-line like Henne and they just wont be able to bomb away over the top against that Illini secondary like they did vs Mich.....Vontae Davis will have a big second half INT that keeps the Illini in the game and saves my cover!
@ Gingell
I'm a lot less concerned with balls and passion than I am with competence. In my mind, managing to coach that LSU team to 2 losses is the biggest indictment of a coach that anyone can make, far worse than Lloyd going 9-3 with less talent.
I care about Xs and Os. I want the football version of Beilein; someone who can just coach their ass off.
I want Jon Tenuta.
AAB:
Georgia's O-line may have been able to beat up Florida's D-line, but the last few weeks of Michigan's season don't give me a lot of confidence as far as pitting our O-line vs. Florida's D-line.
tenuta would be good, but for my defensive mind, there are none better than Brent Venables. OK might not win everygame, but over the past several years, there hasnt been a better coached defense in the country, imo.... now having said that, he isnt a possiblity.... just wishful thinking on my part....
AAB:
John Tenuta is a career coordinator who would be incredibly uncomfortable as the head coach of a major football program and all the visibility that entails.
He would be a fantastic pickup at DC. Not at HC.
It's not that I think Crable is a great player. I think he's badly coached. And no, I have not done a pursuit angle drill. That's not my point though. IIRC the last 20-35 yards Ringer was running straight down the sideline. Unless Crable was in front of him THE WHOLE TIME, he out ran him the last 20-35 yards. That's my point. Even if Ringer slowed a bit, Crable sprinted right at the start of the play, dove, missed the tackle, and still caught Ringer. I think that's somewhat impressive.
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\Somehow, their top back Moreno had a career night with 188 yards on Florida.//
No "somehow" qualifier is necessary...Knowshon Moreno is what Vince Dooley used to refer to as "a fahn foot-bawl play-yah."
And he was recruited not from the traditional UGA strongholds of Valdosta and LaGrange but from God-damned New Jersey.
Which is why Mark Richt isn't going anywhere.
2 losses in the SEC where you play Auburn, Georgia, Florida, Tenn, etc. is an indictment.
I'll give you this---they lost the two games on their schedule they probably shouldnt have.
But you want and indictment of a coach....
Losing to Appy State.
How about losing to Minnesota (2005) at home.
Blowing the national title (1999) by allowing Illinois to come back at Mich stadium
Giving up 54 to NW to lose a shot at the Rose Bowl (2000)
Need I continue? Should I name some of the talent on those teams---Tom Brady, Anthony Thomas, David Terrel, Marquise Walker.
Richt isn't going anywhere unless it's FSU.
mpressive yes, for detrmination and heart.... but he is not faster than ringer, nor was he faster than wisconsins or ohios states qb's...
he has average speed for a lb. that is why he plays de most of the time... that is why the call him a high-bred de/lb. he is a very fast de, and that is what he should focus on getting bigger and becoming a pass rusher in the nfl...
a dark horse candidate for the job -- the Coach from Dazed and Confused.
since he's from texas, he should be able to hold onto McGuffie...
he has the right "priority-adjusted" set of values and attitude to fit in at UM...
through the ingenious use of "pledge sheets", he will be able to keep players such as MM off the wacky tabacky....
and he kind of looks like Gary Moeller...
we should really move to lock this guy down while we still can!
If a school like Clemson can pony up at least $2M a year for a coach, why can't Michigan? Supposed to be a top 5 job without top 5 pay? Gimme a f'ing break! What a joke! Bill Martin is a joke! Mary Sue whatever her name is, is a f'ing joke. They are turning the U of M into a National college football punchline. I hope they find time to address things at the U of M after they're finished with their personal agendas.
Actually, we should have an S&C program that benefits Crable and WE should have made him a DE edge rusher like Jevon Kearse.
PS. Hybrid*
Yes, at this point it is starting to look like Sue Coleman is a plant on OSUs payroll.
MSC-led Iowa signed Ferentz to the highest contract in Iowa or something like that. I think it's great we pay less so as to not insult past coaches, we'd rather insult the future coaches with our offers. Makes sense.
thank you for correcting me, but if im not mistaken, crable has gained an aweful lot of muscle since he was a freshmen.... i think our s and c program has more to do with motivation and excitment, then with the techniques.... i have seen some players blow up strength wise while at U of m. its the "speed" part of it that we cant develope correctly...
@ Daniel L,
It would not be classy to get creative with personelle positions and play calling. We must uphold the standards and traditions of Michigan. If you have and LB by your name, you can only rush the QB from the linebacker position. And we will run left and up the middle , 2.5 yards at a time.
Dan L:
My memory might be faulty, but didn't MSC make Ferentz one of the highest paid college coaches in the country at one point, simply because the Chicago Bears came sniffing around?
@ elnolewis -
you make me hate the cut and paste function of modern computers
you will see crable as defensive end in the nfl... not at lb... unless im just a complete idiot...
you will see brandent as a will lb in the league as well... imo
Won't it be great to see the Big House half full on Saturday afternoons in the fall? Instead of revamping the stadium they should be downsizing. With crowds like Indiana and Northwestern maybe they could play their home games in the new indoor practice facility.
gsimm,
pls take it from someone who knows dozens of past M players: our S&C program is outdated and does not develop the explosive quickness/speed our team lacks.
so does that explain why Desmond have no reaction when he came on GameDay right after Herbstreit's "breaking news"? If this version of what transpired is true (and it certainly appears to be the most plausible theory out there), then maybe he was the one frantically trying to call BM only to get no answer....if this is all true, there will be a lot of pressure for heads to roll if the next HC is a disaster....
Just because Crable is bigger, does not mean he is stronger. There is a huge difference in machine vs free weight training. Pushing 500lb on a squat MACHINE is nowhere near the same as a 500lb squat with free weights. I had a friend in HS who took protein and packed in calories and gained a ton of size, but lost his speed. He went from a top sprinter to average in 6 months. But he gained 15 pounds of muscle fast.
Gittleson is a caveman. His program kills speed.
Let the heads roll.
"We don't need no water, let the motherf'er burn."
I figured it out. Free weight training is higher risk than HIT. We can't do something that might result in a training injury. Much better to have joint damage on the field because the supporting muscles are ignored with HIT.
Hire that chimp!
Can anyone remember the last time that an college football program was in line to get an alumni that was an almost 100% sign, but in the end did not work out?
Yeah that' right it was Urban Meyer and Notre Dame. Obviously the Florida and Notre Dame programs have gone in completely different directions!
I really don't care if anyone here believes me or not, but I have it on good authority that Carr was asked to wait until after the bowl games to announce his retirementment. Carr realized why this was being asked and refused to comply. Carr reaally must despise Les Miles for some reason.
In this light, I see Carr putting his personal fued with Miles above what's good for the program. Is see Carr hirng his cronies at key positions rather than doing what's best for the program.
I'm really struggling to like Lloyd Carr at all right now.
cfaller- did Brian get back to you re: help on Profiles?
As a die hard Michigan fan that can't get much done at work these days BUT doesn't have thousands of people relying on me to be productive, he might be able to use some help on this.
CAUP- yikes. That does bother me, as well.
But again-- a lot of begging the question going on here. That is, I'm just not as convinced as everyone else that Miles is the best thing for the program. But I'd be hard pressed not to admit that last weekend was at best "neutral" and at worst "you look like a bunch of effing amateurs" for the program.
Again, I'm still on the side of supporting a patient and deliberative process. But I don't like the idea that Carr is dicking with the process. I'm fine with Martin not choosing Miles-- but any influence exerted by Carr (if HE did) annoys me, I'll admit.
I think you could divide that 1.8 million by ten, offer it to Jay Paterno, and have it still not be viewed as 'insulting'.
Everybody wins!
Duderino, i'm a Ed 'Straight Arrow' Jeniero -guy, myself. anyone who can go 1-9-1 w/ that 'dillos team is a miracle worker.
Wooooo Canada!
It's pretty amazing to me that this blog continues to run with one side of the story, giving every benefit of every doubt to Miles. And I wonder, if Brian could see the lineup on the side he favors, I mean the guys who have actually had something to do with the business of running the program, he would be horrified to see who he found.
Herbstreit's an idiot, and ESPN should cut that dead weight right away. Bring back someone with some testicles and some sense (Trev Alberts), and tell Kirk to go on back to slurping Tressel and the memory of Woody Hayes.
The guy is a joke.
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