first
you really decided to post this?
Recruiting is sometimes really really creepy.
Not liking the fact that Mcguffie is looking at Texas and Cal. Too late in the game to be having second thoughts about his commitment to Michigan.
Feel free to flame away at me, but I almost hope we don't get TP. Not because I think he's over rated, and not because I think Michigan football will go on (it will). But I still am not sure RR gets the gravitas of the Michigan-OSU game. He still thinks WVU-Pitt is a huge rivalry (it may be, but it's not THE rivalry). I think it might be good for RR to make that game personal.
Then again, I can think of other ways to make that game personal, so he beats tOSU with TP.
My second cousin's best friend's nephew-in-law met with Missy Peregrym on the bus the today, she the star of the instant film classic "Stick It!" and also girlfriend of Big Ben Roethslisberger. She swore that while doing the nasty last night, Big Ben let it slip that Batch said that Pryor was Blue.
True story.
Posts like this is why I like the internets. INTERNETS! INTERNETS! YYYYAAAAAYYYY INTERNETS!
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/0.../854933-
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Wow. You guys must have given him an extra shiny Corvette. With lots of cash in the trunk.
And probably a pony or something.
Cheating bastards.
(not serious, put down the knives)
WTF was that anonymous commenter talking about there?
gross
I loves me some mongered rumors.
(*makes V12 engine revving noises*)
Haha, I can't believe how ridiculous it is that I even get slightly excited over the potential that this might not be utter horseshit.
why would jerome bettis be talking to Charlie Batch about Terrelle Pryor?
Wow this has gotten weird.
I like to think I'm pretty up-to-date on creepy stalking of 18-year-olds, but I didn't know NFLers got into the creepy stalking too.
Maybe it's because he's a Domer.
Feel free to flame away at me, but I almost hope we don't get TP. Not because I think he's over rated, and not because I think Michigan football will go on (it will). But I still am not sure RR gets the gravitas of the Michigan-OSU game. He still thinks WVU-Pitt is a huge rivalry (it may be, but it's not THE rivalry). I think it might be good for RR to make that game personal.
Then again, I can think of other ways to make that game personal, so he beats tOSU with TP.
Anonymous | 02.05.08 - 4:17 pm | #
Completely non-sensical. How does Pryor enter into RR "understanding" the UM-OSU rivalry. What's their to understand? Both teams really, really hate each other and want to win.
I am 100% positive Pryor is coming to Michigan. My source confirms.
hahaha,
this really HAS gotten strange.
I want to see the picture of this schmuck and Bettis.
I heard Pryor will be at the Michigan v. OSU bball game tonight. 44.2% chance that Beilein puts him in the starting lineup tonight.
Pryor's going to be trouble down the road. Michigan, long-term, will be better off without him.
Jay - McGuffie apparently goes to A&M liek once a month, not because he wants to go there, but because his friends do. And most sites have played the Cal visit down as meaningless.
Pardon me while I slaughter this goat. I'll tell you in a minute where Pryor is going.
@chitown
They just keep coming out of the woodwork, and yet their TP-hating logic gets weirder and weirder.
My knee is swelling up. Pryor must be going ot OSU.
Lots of posts today - very good stuff.
dangdangdang,
It's because Bettis is from Pennsylvania. The Penn football connection is crazy.
"There's Philly and there's Pittsburgh, and in between it's Alabama." {This last bit's got nothing to do with football, but I love how true it is.)
My jackhammer of doom is rising up. That means I have to go see my wife...
cfaller96 - I actually see that as the same, bizarre, RR-hate that sometimes pops up. I don't see why the UM/OSU rivalry is "hard to understand". Freshmen from out-of-state (like I was) seem to pick it up pretty fast.
Wow that sure is dubious.
The jackhammer of doom references make me queasy.
Apparently Batch and Bettis are really friends. Who knows? All the stuff about "sources" thinking TP is going to OSU seems to be based on the OSU commits and TP's HS qb coach. On a different note, my interest in this material makes me feel a twinge of self loathing every now and then.
Haha, I can't believe how ridiculous it is that I even get slightly excited over the potential that this might not be utter horseshit.
dangdangdang | 02.05.08 - 4:24 pm |
That was an awesome post!
AAB - if you're looking for more, your burden of proof is clearly too high.
I was just messing with the guy. Kinda like when I said *I* was going to Michigan.
By the way, did you know I'm from Detroit?
AS for RR "getting" the rivalry, having a few thousand people call him a cock sucker (or worse) in Columbus next fall oughta learn 'im real quick.
ok this is what im thinking....
this summer, 4th of july....
we all meet in AA, and play the first ever mgoblog bowl....
@chitown
I would also note that while the import of the WFV-Pitt game is less than The Game, it's no less bitter and hate-filled. The amount of trash and filth that gets thrown on the road team's players and coaches is unbelievable (especially at WFV). I have faith that RichRod understands what those games are like, and I don't think we need to "sacrifice" getting Pryor in order to "make him understand" the rivalry. It's very bizarre.
Batch and Bettis played on the Steelers together. I could see them having a ocnversation. Why Bettis gives a shit about Pryor, is beyond me, and why he would have an unsolicited conversation about him is also...perfectly sensible! WHHOOOOOOO PRYOR!!!!!
That guy who posted has a mascot of a (LSU) Tiger biting Brutus.
Et tu Brian. Crazy ass speculation.
Not TP related:
from prior post--
The Omameh commitment doesn't preclude us from offering Barnum, correct? We need as many lineman as we can get right now....
Jivas | 02.05.08 - 3:57 pm |
One of you Premium guys check this. I thought the OL that was definite to UM wanted to keep it a secret until NSD. Does that mean we get Barnum too?
Now back to your regularly scheduled TP talk...
1) Seems like Bettis might have been trying to get under an OSU fan's skin?
2) Hopefully, everyone here knows that Bettis isn't from Pennsylvania, just played pro fb there.
3) Why was Bettis flying out of Pittsburgh a day after I heard he was at late night Super Bowl after parties in AZ?
Bettis and Batch were teammates for a bit on Pittsburgh.
\Darth Rodruigez//
May this guy be only the first of millions to reflect upon the master of our wacko ninja offense with such dread.
I was on a flight with Jack Lambert. He said thuuuth fwuth phsssit. Then He put his teeth in and said Pryor was comming to MICHIGAN!
no mention of Bettis and this dude reveling in their hatred for Michigan?
NCWolverine - Rivals says that Barnum is about full-sized, and will likely be a center.
Omameh has lots of room to put on size, and they project him as a guard. So Omameh's presence should not impact Barnum at all.
@chitown
The jackhammer of doom references make me queasy.
But you combine the jackhammer of doom with a Sex Mustache, and it's all good, right?
That's no spread offense, it's a space station!!
NCWolverine, Omameh was the one that wanted to keep it a secret
It's too fast to be a space station.
C'mon, TennBlue! How long does it take to read goat guts?!
gsimmons -
Great idea! I'll QB one of the teams. I think the old shoulder still works.
Thanks OGB.
well, brum....
in tenn, they do some "extra" stuff to the goats before they slaughter them.... so it takes a little longer...
j/k tennblue!
Yeah, Tennblue - if you don't post a picture of that blood-spatter and entrails so we can reach our own conclusions.......
I'm just curious, but when is that last time that Michigan got the #1 recruit in the country?
Henson was #1, no?
Grady was #1 RB, right? But #1 overall?
Closest we've been recently was #4 Ryan Mallett and #6 Prescott Burgess.
Yes, #6 Prescott Burgess
TE Will Yeatman, one of Notre Dame's only offensive weapons last year and their starting TE for next year was suspended indefinently.
Nope!!he was like #4 or something. We haven;t had one in the past 15 years!!
Grady was #1 in-state. Right?
Bolosak is quite possibly the most reliable sounding name ive ever heard.
For some reason I thought I remembered Grady being pretty highly regarded nationally, but I might be WAY off here... Def not #1 overall, but thought he was up there among RBs.
bumski,
yeah, which doesnt mean a whole lot...
#1 recruit in michigan that is...
Charlie Weis - Too fat to be a space station.
Grady was a five star, but I believe he was ranked somewhere in the teens by rivals, maybe even the 20s
There's nothing wrong with Brian posting rumors when he labels them as such and explains how large a pillar of salt we should take them with. They're better than not having anything to read but briefs, pleadings, and medical records.
i thought grady was low 20's overall
he was highly touted i beleive he came out the smae year as tony baker, the stud i had to caoch against that went to nc state, he was number 1 tb i believe... and grady was number 2
@Gsimmons-Woodley, Graham, Grady, RoJo, Alex Mitchell, Cissoko. That's not bad at all. Every one of those except for Mitchell was a 5 star.
Grady #1 in state #3 RB.
Does anyone else conjure visions of Jim Carey's Mask saying "Ohhh Momeh" when they read Omameh?
Dix, you another lawyer? Damn, this place is full of 'em. I'll bet OSU doesn't have as many among their posters. (But I'll be the OSU posters have retained more lawyers...)
http://thumbsnap.com/v/qAZIUbcP.jpg
University of Nairobi, most definitely.
yeah i know some great players have come out of michigan...NO doubt! but overall highschool football in michigan is light years behind many many states...
THE JACKHAMMER OF DOOM IS COMING
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YES
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IT IS SARKASIAN'S
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IT IS HUNGRY
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YES
Hmm....looks like Michigan to me!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fal...icks/318369400/
Cissoko is a 4-star, I think.
Boo-Boo is a 4* on one site and a 5* on the other.
TSN's prime 100 (the precursor to rivals) had henson ranked 10 overall. Ronald Curry was #1
http://findarticles.com/p/articl...i_20201261/
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He's a 4 star on rivals, a 5 star on scout. I'm rounding up.
Cissoko is a 5-star in our hearts. He doesn't have the height/weight ratio that gives those guys a woody.
Yeah chitown, he's on a 4 star on Rivals because their hating on his hate, 5 star on Scout though. Just like McGuffie's a 5 star on Scout, but a 4 star on Rivals not even in the top 250 players because of obvious (racist) reasons.
i meant to say height*
McGuffie was actually down-graded on Scout. He's 4 there, too.
It's a different crowd, so I'll ask again:
Why is Michael Shaw getting recruited as a WR? He is almost the exact same size as McGuffie, and runs virtually the same 40 time.
Wow Matt Holiday was the #3 recruit in the nation in '98, I'd say his baseball career ended up being a little better than Henson's.
Woodley was #2 overall in 03 and burgess was # 11 according to scout!!
RM -
Nice list. That was a great class with Fargas (6), Walker (9), Henson (10), and Terrell (11). I pray that someday we will have another class with four players in the top 11.
chitown,
A lot of RBs and WRs have the same measurables. Why is Regis Benn playing WR with a 6' 215 lb frame? These coaches envision these guys at certain positions. TRob looks like a RB, but they obviously thought he was built to be a slot receiver. Seems to be the case with Michael Shaw as well.
chitown,
probably, becasue some coach on his recruiting visit told him about rb depth charts, and his response was i can play slot too...
realy it matters very little, what they are recruited for, once they get to summer workouts, depth charts will reflect where their skills are best utilized...
Wow, in that Henson class Michigan got 4 of the top 11 recruits.
6. Justin Fargas
9. Marquise Walker
10. Drew Henson
11. David Terrell
@Chitown - I think Shaw could be a slot WR in RR's offense, with McGuffie as the RB prize recruit this year - my guess is RR is trying to sell Shaw on being a contributor in another way.
Just to play devil's advocate - McGuffie is ranked behind Shaw as a running back by both Scout and Rivals.
So I guess the question should not be "when was the last time M got the #1 recruit," but has M ever gotten the #1 recruit? Anyone?
UM is going to have a ton of WR/RB combo guys that are quick as lightning and not very big. That way a number of guys are capable of running the ball and it keeps defenses from cheating to one ball carrier.
Bettis hates UM.
mcguffie, maybe is not going to help at slot.... maybe rb is all he can do...
or maybe RR thinks that Shaw is a better slot guy then MC, or that MC is better RB than Shaw...
who knows....
summer will figure it out...
Dan Dierdorf #1 in 1968.
I just think it's weird that we've apparently already decided that the #7 RB in the nation needs a position change.
gerald ford number 1 1957
just kidding...
I think McGuffie is a pure RB and Shaw is more of an all-around athlete that could make the transition to WR easier. Question: If McGuff were to play WR, would he be the first inexplicably good white WR at Michigan since the end of the Bo era? I'm young so my memory doesn't go back as far.
I call BS. Most people who post on fan sites don't fly first class on domestic flights, and most former NFL stars don't ever fly coach.
If Mcguffie didn't get hurt his senior year he would be a top 50 player on Rivals. And, oh yeah, if Mcguffie was black he would probably be a top 25 recruit. No one has a SPARQ close to his.
Ahhh Gsimmons
You went older and more sarcastic than me. I've got to step up my game.
Keegan - I think the difference is that Shaw, according to Scout, has great hands. McGuffie, not as much. My question isn't really why is McGuffie being looked at RB instead of Shaw, but rather, why wouldn't they both be looked at?
John Kolesar probably the last great white UM receiver - I can't think of any after him. Paul Jokasik (sp) was also a decent white reciever - he was like 6'7" played with Kolesar, all this was back in the days of Harbaugh so probably around 85.
chi...
not sure i follow you, did RR come out and say that shaw was not playing tb?
and would you except any explenation?
or acknowledge any?
Yale Van Dyne.
gsimmons85,
so in your opinion why is it that HS football in Michigan is so far behind other states? (please say because of all the soccer... i loathe soccer... in the U.S. anyways. English Premier League is okay, and I like the Spanish-speaking announcers yelling GOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLaLaLaLaLaLa. ...but I digress.)
most of the recruiting services suggest that Shaw would get offered as a WR. That's where I get it from.
gsimmons - are you upset that I didn't bow down to you on the utter life-changing awesomeness of Barwis?
its probably like this, i dont know coach you already have a bunch of tailbacks.... well son i could always show case your tallents at slot...
call to scout... yeah im going to michigan, coach says i can play wr...
rr will put the 11 best players on the field, he has proven that...
if shaw makes the team better at slot, then he would at tb, then i have no doubt rr will put him there...
wouldn't confuse Yale VD as being "great" but I think he WAS our last white WR (way back in 1991), which is remarkable I suppose
Bettis hates u-m. This guys trying to punk you.
chi?
why the hostility bro?
i was just asking if you knew of something where RR said he was NOT playing tb?
second time in two days you have called me out like that...
I bet shaw gets a handful of carries a game in his career.
gsimmons, I don't think I called you out yesterday, did I? If so, my bad.
I did snap today, because this:
and would you except any explenation?
or acknowledge any?
implied I was getting called out.
@gsimmons
chitown's just a little scratchy because he's worried about the flood of TP hate that will come down on this board tomorrow if TP goes to OSU.
Yeah, definitely Yale. He wasn't too bad as a third option.
Call him out three times and it's Rexkwondo time!
For the record, I'm scratchy about that too.
cfaller, I'm actually looking forward to that.
@ FrankMurphy
Jerome Bettis flies coach!
I think Shaw in RR's system would probably be a better wr than rb - he's 6ft 185, mcguffie is 5'11" 190. I know that Shaw would put on weight in college but I think his body type is better suited to be a wide out than a rb.
brunski,
lots of factors go into it.... length of seaon, state laws about practice days, importance of football to school disticts, etc. but at the end of the day, i know no less then 20 former michigan coaches, who have come down south and have been blown away by the speed of the game, and the difference in highschool athletics here (nc not the greatest) as opposed to in michigan.... athletics just takes on a much more important role in the lives of people down here... now throw in ohio, penn, cali, texas, etc, into that as well...
Baraka Atkins......any eligibility left? Sorry, just joinin ya'll in the trip down momory lane......sigh
chi,
that comment was directed at the fact that about 10 explenations were given in regards to your question, and you didnt except any of them as possibly being true....
you know what, you are right, im sorry.... i guess i just take it as being negative, just like that stuff about s and C not having any real impact on football at michigan..
but im sure you dont mean it that way, you are a great fan im sure, and i dont need to be trying to change you mind about things, please except my apologies...
I'd be willing to bet money that MI produces more football talent than NC, SC, KY, TN, or MS. The southern states that do have a lot of talent are LA, GA, AL, and of course FL.
Michigan isn't a great recruiting state but it is probably better than half the states out there. HS ball is taken a lot more seriously in places like Texas and Ohio than it is in Michigan.
I'm a big dumb animal. obvs not baraka atkins. lol @ me
Population has a lot to do with things - of course Michigan is going to produce more talent than SC, we have 3x the population.
Baraka atkins was a d-lineman at DA U - Kelly Baraka was the big time recruit whose career went up in smoke at UM.
Lots of LOL posts, I've tried the goat guts but I find that my magic 8 ball is far more accurate especially today when I asked about TP to tOSU and it said "Ask Again Later". Damn.
My hubby is 6'6" and barely, barely can fly coach. Jerome Bettis is in 1st class because he cannot physically fit anywhere else.
caup.
im sorry, but nc and michigan arent even close when it comes to highschool athletics... aside from the athletes in the city schools of michigan that compare with the charlotte, gboro raliegh school in nc.
trust me i might be down here now, but my heart will alwyas be in michigan... but its not even close..
Michigan is mainly a basketball state. Best athletes are playing hoops, not FB.
Help stave off Buckeye vandalism of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ter.../
Terrelle_Pryor
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You may want to check that SC talent out. There is a ton of D-1 guys from SC. Not all of them go to SC (South Carolina) or Clemson, but you will find quite a few at GA, FL-schools, and the rest of the SE US (SEC and ACC).
Michigan is a middle-tier recruiting state. We'll come up with a Woodley or RoJo every now and then, but we're usually in that bracket that's a ways behind OH,FL,CA,TX,GA,PA and LA. We're equal, if a little bit better, than most of those middle-tier SEC schools. The rest(northwest region, northeast region), dont come close to us.
coach ganfield, at romeo, great success in michigan 15+ year head coach...
i ran into him a passing camp down here.... first thing we tlak about is how much faster the game is here....
joe woodruff, grteat success in comstock park... now here, im telling you highschool sports have a completely different meaning in the south....
thanks for the reply gsimmons. it makes sense. i played in HS and it was kind of a meh, i'm kinda big and don't really care for BBall so I guess I'll try to play football. Come to think of it the whole team didn't really seem too fired up...ever. sure there were cross-town rivalries etc., but it just wasn't as important as other things and yet we'd be pissed when the Saginaw and Flint schools whupped up on us. I'm hoping things have changed since then. I think one of the current Michigan players went to my HS.
gsim, I guess there's an easy way to verify your claim. How many of the Top 250 football recruits are from NC and how many are from MI? Year in and year out?
This is an honest question, and I was only referring to football.
gsimmons, I'm a Floridian..and I agree.
Of course, this also comes at the expense of a largely illiterate and flat-out stupid group of football prospects. It's a stereotype, but it's all too true. You watch Friday Night Lights? There's a million Boobie Miles' down here.
chi,
i hope you except my appologizes bro...
i do enjoy posting here, and dont want the regulars to have a problem with me...
@gsimms
Comstock Park isn't a very big though... I went to Rockford when I was younger. If Michigan state is Michigan's little bro than Comstock Park was like a 7 year old sister.
Greg Simmons I have a problem with you...
Unless you are running a CB blitz now and then out of the nickel package.
caup,
i have no idea...michigan may have more, i have no idea...
most of the great athletes i have had down here, cant qualifiy for d I,
i know 2 of the greatest tailbacks i have ever seen are both in jail in high point right now...
caup,
you dont have to trust me, and are welcome to dissagree, but highschool athletics is my preofession.
not saying it was bada bing...
just saying, its not like im talking out of my ass here.... i have been around highschool athletics in both places.... and have never heard another coach dissagree with me on that point...
any news on the perry front?
Tyrone Wheatley of Inkster was pretty good.
What would happen to Haloscan if all 230 Vistors Online post at the same time?
NCWolverine,
Think Alan Branch vs. Morelli two years ago, and haloscan is Morelli.
tyrone was awesome....
god i loved watching that guy run...
I also received an email from a reader who seemed connected* during the coaching search indicating that a Western PA source was also claiming Pryor would choose Michigan. These are three hopeful signs, and I want you to think of me when Pryor picks Ohio State tomorrow.
BILG, thanks for the scoop! I for one think your info was always solid -- as Brian says, the situation changed around you. As to the TP nugget, who knows. TP may have told Mich people that he's going to Mich, and told OSU people that he's going to OSU. So the info could be accurate and he could still end up at OSU...
NC - 3 players in rivals 250 MI - has 7.
Not sure over the years which state has more talent, not going to look it up either.
Michigan is a 2nd tier recruiting state - TX FL OH PA (off the top of my head) would be first tier.
I would agree that Michigan is more of a hoops state (weather probably has a lot to do with this - in the south you can practice football basically 365 you can't do this in a Michigan winter).
Yeah, Wheatley was good, but I don't remember him being #1 overall. Henson & Fargas were the closest M came, I think...
@GS-
I loved every one of his 4 Rose Bowl touchdowns
Tyrone Wheatley of the mothafuckin' HOOD.
I used to play football up through 8th grade with the kids that came outta Inkster. Interesting times, to say the least.
gsimmons, no worries.
For the record, I really never meant to say that Barwis will not have an impact - if he can get the players to work harder at more effective exercises (which all accounts say he can) than yeah, he'll have a positive impact. I guess I just don't think he's this cure-all for every player's problem, and I get the impression that some do.
Fargas was the most erect (IN TERMS OF POSTURE, PEOPLE) runner I've ever seen. He ran with his shoulders back, chest out...every single time he got tackled, it seemed like it was a highlight reel hit.
Psssst...
It's not the facilities, the offense, or the coaches. I'm coming for the Zingermans.
okay, this year's Top 100 has 4 kids from MI and 0 kids from NC. The Top 250 has 7 kids from MI and 4 kids from NC.
I will concede that SC and MS have a surprisingly large amount of talent, but don't try to sell me on NC talent being better than MI's.
Tyrone Wheatley's son, Tyrone JR is 9 and has a size 10 foot. Look for him in the Michigan recruiting class of 2021 (they just moved back to A2)
but don't try to sell me on NC talent being better than MI's
Would a crisp $20 work?
@Brumski
You didn't go to BCC by any chance did you?
@bada bing
I live in Rockford now and Comstock Park is not close in terms of talent or size. Maybe like a UM/CMU comparision
I hope I don't have the same chest pain tomorrow like last year sitting on the computer for 30 minutes with a 40oz. last year hitting refresh while all of Rojo's peeps gave their shot outs only to see the 3 letters USC and ruin my whole weekend
this may not mean anything to anybody here but i was talking with my good friend within our program (just take my word for it) and he told me that Pryor really, really wants to come to Michigan. However, he feels indebted to that Sarniak guy who has helped him through the years and wants him to goto tOSU. again..tomorrow we will see if this means anything but i felt obliged to pass this on to mgoblog.
@chitown
The word you're looking for there is 'upright.' Otherwise you're going to get a whole bunch of jackhammer of doom references.
Don't forget about the wealth of talent out here in California...
my real name is tyrone wheatly and i used to be sweet at football.
California also a big time recruiting state, I omitted them from my list. I regret the error.
chi - yup that oughta do it.
NoCar fooball kix asss!!!111eleven!!!
Classifying all high school sports as bigger down south is not correct. Most southern states absolutely suck at long distance running and wrestling, for example. Different regions have different focus, and while a cross country kid would never pan out as a D1 football player, there are lacrosse and soccer players who could. And if some of the track coaches in Michigan had the talent, they'd clean house in sprints.
So while I am most concerned about football, I think Michigan produces the 8th most players in the NFL of any state. Is that elite? Nope. But it's solid.
Whats worse...Pryor to fOSU or being heavily invested in the stock market?
on the topic (or slightly off kilter, you decide) of big time football states, the show friday night lights bothers me.
a. all the kids are like 28 years old
b. the coach is gary hobson from early edition
c. texas sucks
d. texas really sucks
e. the "whole life" story thing is stupid
f. my high school didnt have crucial babes and we had our own exit from a major freeway
g. its a waste of explosions in the sky's awesome music
just thought i'd drop that little nugget of truth on you all.
also, if i knew "jackhammer of doom" would be met with such unadultrated derision, i wouldnt have used it in the first place.
The CBS post was from a Buckeye fan, sure. It is designed to get your hopes up, and then have them crushed tomorrow.
one thing that is bigger down south is "taking your first cousin out on a date"
Rumpel, def. stock market
Big Gay - I like the Friday Night Lights movie - but you couldn't pay me to watch the TV show.
why do all the posts say "gravatar" next to them? is that a word? is this a free mason plot? am i gay?
I'm from Montana so the only sports we dominate at involve barnyard animals, guns or both (if you don't know, don't ask). Football's pretty good, U Montana is a top tier D-1AA program.
well its gone now. i shouldnt ask questions.
GoBlue8306,
That was my thought. If TP goes to fOSU, I won't be thinking of suicide.
I think the Gravatar thing is like a messageboard Avatar - some times it shows up sometimes it doesn't.
Keegan:
i've heard montana gets ridiculous fan support out there, in light of it being IA or whatever they call it now.
wow, the state of MI produced the 8th most players in the NFL? That is impressive.
If I had to guess, at least 6 states in front of MI are CA, FL, TX, PA, OH, and GA.
halo scan is a total mystery to me. understanding it is like delving into the female pysche.
would it be a big process to use phbb like the freep does for its stories?
I sat next to the Coner at lunch today!
bgh, I think that "jackhammer of doom" has, largely, been met with unadulterated joy.
well, then. my contributions, as always, are for the children.
reminds me of Ole' Dirty Bastard:
"Wu-Tang is for the kids..."
even better was the trick daddy quote:
"trick is for the kids"
BGH,
My dad has had season tix to UM Football. They get 24,000 a game and it's loud as hell. Steep bleachers and it's dug in the ground. Go the the website and check it out, you'll be impressed. It's like a mini-version of SEC with the tail gating and pre game stuff.
http://www.montanagrizzlies.com/...ilities/
wgs.htm
This has various pics of game day. The atmosphere is crazy and the fans go nuts. You know how Wisc. Plays jump around to start the 4th qtr. They play Cotton Eyed Joe and the place goes ape shit. You'll see women in their sixties jumping and dancing to it.
Will TJ Lawrence also be a Wolverine?
I actually saw a list (not Rivals or Scout) that had Pat Massey #4 in 2001. Just sayin'...grain of salt.
Of course, Barwis would have turned him into a steel-spined QB wrecker.
He had three bowls of Golden Grahams and a chicken enchilada. It was in West Quad.
Gravy - Rivals says no way in hell on TJ Lawrence.
The Coner, that is.
Scout has something new on T.J. Lawrence.
In 2006 Bettis actually suggested that the Steelers should go with Charlie Batch over Big Ben, and being as there is no way that actual thinking was involved in that statement, they may in fact be friends. However, Jerome Bettis was in Arizona on January 31st for a promotional gig with "Promise", a butter spread thing. I don't think that he would leave Arizona before the Superbowl, a guy like him would stay around. So... I am guessing bullshit on the story. However, I like not having to check the threads to get the random BS stories.
Man keegan, you love your D I-AA football. It's really cool, actually. I am far from an expert on football, but I like to look at American Football Monthly's website when I have free time. It seems like there are so many philosophies out there, and you can really learn something by watching all football. What's your connection to North Dakota U, btw? Craig Bohl is going to be one hell of an FBS coach one day. He really can get his team to play in the big game.
Btw, Brian probably posted the article saying that TP will probably go to OSU is just so that we don't get our hopes up. He has a good point.
LOOK at the guy's photo on sportsline, fellas. It's a tiger eating a bucknut. Ultra-sophisticated M posters might self-satirize like that, not bucknuts with bad spelling. All other trendlines point toward a sweatervest get on the Prior thing.
Guys I guarantee you TP will go to OSU. But I also guarantee you we will beat the buckeyes next year. For real man.
I do not want Pryor to choose Michigan. A high school student who holds a press conference? That kind of self-importance and showmanship we can do without at Michigan. Winning is not worth losing your sense of decorum or integrity.
TJ Lawrence is re-evaluating his decision and speaking with all three schools again. RR said he could play both ways, which intrigues him. Still thinks its Fla. though.
Forget TJ Lawrence. What we need are some DBs
Matthew:
Looks like he lost a bet with an LSU fan on that one (based on that thread)
Victoria, if you don't want a High School student who holds a press-conference, you may as well kiss goodbye to every single player on the team that didn't walk on.
I wouldn't put any hope on Florida kids. We never really had any success with them.
Isn't RR speaking at halftime of the hoops game today? If so can someone post a synopsis of it?
Michigan recruits well from New Jersey, PA, Texas, and Cali
Tim,
Yeah, my mom and dad are both Alums of Univ. of Montana and my dad is a huge fan. A few of my teammates and guys I played against are on the team (a lot of the team is MT kids) so I follow it still. I know about No Dak football because I currently go to Western Washington and they played in the same conference and got smoked by ND last year. A lot of my buddies play on the team so I talk to them about it. Bohl is a good coach and that offense was unstoppable when I saw them Westerns defense was bad all year but you could tell that their schemes and execution were amazing.
I think I'm going to give up blog comments for Lent -- reading and posting. Crazy idea or what?
wouldn't it be sweet if RR tonite says well terelle, you broke the news about my coming to A2, tonite, I'm going to do the same, TP has just called me and will be committing to Michigan
Sure, that wouldn't piss him off at all.
wouldn't it be sweet if RR tonite says well terelle, you broke the news about my coming to A2, tonite, I'm going to do the same, TP has just called me and will be committing to Michigan
Even better:
Rich whips out a cell phone, holds it up to the mike, and Terrelle tells us himself.
@Victoria
What planet are you from? The top recruits always hold press conferences. If you're uncomfortable with this, then I suggest you not follow any recruiting stories...ever.
If TJ Lawrence is thinking about us again, it seems like we may not have room for everyone. 4 spots left. Pryor or Britt seems like 1, Perry is hopefully 2. Shaw and Barnum seemed like possible 3 and 4 but if Lawrence re-considers one of them might be out.
A press conference just means he's talking to all the reporters at once, rather than giving 200 individual interviews. It's quite practical for someone in the news, not necessarily a publicity stunt.
I really cannot wait until tomorrow and get this crap over with. I mean its exciting and all, but I just want our team together so we can try and figure out the depth chart and how we will be next year...
Victoria, please tell me you're hot. If you're one of those fat, ugly bitches, that would be really disappointing...
Maybe that's Victoria's Secret...
rim shot for TennBlue
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
id=3232753
WTF?
i also cannot wait to not have to come read cfaller and chitowns bs anymore. i'm starting to hate this board almost as much as i hate justin fargas. and that's a lot.
Love you too, sweet heart.
you think RR will promise anything during the halftime speech?!
like we'll keep the bowl streak alive
I know the game is on ESPN - but I wonder if they are gonna have the half time speech on - I got class till 930 so I'm gonna miss it.
My guess is he says something like: "you will be proud of our boys in the class room, in the community and most importantly in 3 hundred or whatever days from now in Columbus, Ohio."
that's bizarre....mallett's transfer is precisely the kind that is NOT waiver-eligible. he no longer wished to attend the University of Michigan, so he left. There was no hardship, death, loss of limb or virginity, and I'm pretty sure he was not sexually assaulted.
Nick,
I'm pretty sure Marion raped him after the Wisconsin game. I think he got him pretty good too.
LOL@ Keegan
Isn't the BBall game at OSU
Kirk Herbstreit is on Sportscenter right now calling Les Miles to Michigan.
so if we land barnum, shaw, pryor and perry to make a class of 25....would this be looked at as one of the best recruiting jobs by RR and co especially just in 6 weeks?
game is at OSU, I could have sworn RR was supposed to talk at half time of this game but it must be at another game.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...8/1123/
SPORTS05
RR will be speaking on the 17th.
if i was rr, here would be my speech.
jim tressel is a fucking douchebag. a cunt, even. i hate him. also, dantonio is a whiny pussy. when his balls drop, i look at him as a man. until then, i wont. and lets be honest about kirk ferentz, the guy's a creep show. i wouldnt be surprised if he has a sex swing hidden somewhere in his office. joe pa? are you kidding me? the guy is ten seconds from going the way of the brontosaurus. and somebody needs to tell brett bielma that the "high and tight" haircut looks like shit. speaking of shit, what about pat fitzgerald's coaching career?
so on and so forth.
OK - i know nobody in here will believe me, but i personally know bolosak. I just talked to him and called him out on this - and he swears up and down that it is true
Sorry to do this guys, but there have been a lot of posts today.
I've seen a lot of pieces of talk about names like McGuffie, Shaw, Perry, Barnum, and TJ.
Can someone post a quick recap?
yeah, we all hope they sign with us tomorrow
BGH,
I am on the floor laughing with the Bielema comment.
Well of course we do. But is there any particular reason to feel confident? Or nervous about McGuffie?
Shaw and McGuffie comments were about how they would be used in the office
nah mcguffie is solid, perry isnt saying anything (he announces at 11am)...same with shaw (he announces at 9am)
BGH - funny post. But I think you need to give Pat Fitzgerald a break, I like what you said about everyone else though.
office=offense
and my Mallett being raped comment was saying that Mario raped him not Marion. Though if I was referring to Marion Jones, I'm sure she could do it as well since I am prett sure she has a penis.
Thanks, DetU. I'm working hard to keep my expectations low. Have you similarly scrutinized assertions that there's no way Bettis could/would have been on such a plane, assuming such a trajectory, etc?
Give Prior credit--he has kept everyone guessing.
Thanks OGB and Keegan
and of course pryor at noon...idk about barnum though
I will only give Pryor credit if he signs with UM. If he doesn't I will give him the finger.
Pryor, sorry. Some serious slippage with the first sip of wine.
I wonder why perry and shaw are announcing so early - coverage doesn't start till 12pm on The U.
Although I'd rather have TP than not, I haven't cared too much about his choice - I think we'll be fine either with or without him.
But it struck me today that it would be GREAT fun if TP chose UM for no other reason than to watch the meltdown in buckeyeland. Couch burning, conspiracy theories, RR is a criminal, dogs-sleeping-with-cats, etc.
OK - a little clarification from bolosak - the bus had already known that he was an OSU fan before he told him TP was going to Mich - sounds like the Bus may have been messing with him
Dog sleeping with cats in Columbus? Nothing new.
Apparently nobody cares who/what sleeps with what/who down there anyway.
Wow Michigan sites are imploding because of Terrelle Pryor. I hope for mgoblog's site, he picks UM.
If Pryor chooses UM I will be sure to help burn some couches down here.
henton sleeps with real life prostitutes, apparently.
That you KNOW of. Seriously. Nothing's taboo in C-town.
http://www.channelsurfing.net/
Has a link to OSU/Michigan game. Pregame starting now. Java applet that runs on anything.
Ooh... Erin Andrews in a lacy white top. This game is a whole lot more interesting.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...7/80205082/
1055
Perry will not be going to MSU.
If Pryor chooses THE world's largest community college, then we have no choice but to pull a #6 on C-town:
Hedley Lamarr: "Number 6"? I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that one...
Taggart: Well, that's where we go a-ridin' into town, a whampin' and whompin' every livin' thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the women folks, of course.
Hedley Lamarr: You spare the women?
Taggart: NAW. We rape the shit out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on.
Hedley Lamarr: Marvelous.
both of these basketball teams are horrible.
I think last years football game will yield more points than this.
@tennblue
I'd never seen channelsurfing.net before. I'm ipressed. Thanks for the link.
@ geevee, I hope you mean '06, not '07
The reason that guy had an LSU avatar is because he made a bet with an LSU fan on the national championship game. Not that it means anything, besides that he is an OSU fan, I'm just throwing that out there.
@mgobleu:
No prob. Most of the time their links are Windows only, which sucks since I use a Mac. I refuse to pay $40/mo to Comcast for about 3 channels that I would actually watch, so I don't get ESPN. I rely on internet feeds for nearly all my sports.
there goes the crowd with "we don't give a damn for the whole state of michigan..." chant. What a bunch of fucking idiots. Next they'll start singing their "school song" of Hang on, Sloopy...... NOT a school song. A HORRIBLY DUMB SONG from the 60s. Maybe we should make "The Monster Mash" a school song. Whaddya say, "Gang"? God, tOSU is garbage.
@ Seattle Blue
A little Blazing Saddles I see.
Beautiful!
I totally agree with putting a #6 down on C-Puss...
Can someone post/summarize what Beaver says about TJ Lawrence on the front page of GBW?
I can't get any internet in my area (I live in a hole) besides wi-max. Works good, but its about half the speed of cable, so alot of feeds are a little bit quick for it, but this has been flawless.
Holy Cow Batman!
9. WR Marquise Walker 6-3/195 Syracuse, N.Y./
Henninger (Michigan)
10. QB Drew Henson 6-5/215 Brighton, Mich./
Brighton (Michigan)
11. WR David Terrell 6-3/205 Richmond, Va./Huguenot
(Michigan)
Look at that top-10ish haul!
I didn't realize David Terrell and Marquise Walker were in the same class.
bada bing, One thing in U-M's favor: U-M is telling TJ he can play both ways ... (and of course what I said before: ) ... he's gonna re-decide tonight ... he's talking to all schools one more time - Fla, SCar, U-M
hang on sloopy : osu :: bullwinkle the moose : UM
I used the Jackhammer of Doom on the goat and it still tells me Pryor to OSU and Perry to USC. Bolosak helped, too.
bullwinkle is NOT a school song. Did you GO to Michigan?
Thanks ogb. And McCalleb didn't qualify? Sounds like Lawrence is the better player anyway.
@Paul
I hope so too.
correct he isnt. looks like we got barnum, lawrence, pryor, perry and shaw left...
Terrell and Walker were in the same class, Terrell just left a year early.
Walker was the only skill player bright spot on that offensively inept '01 team.
Damn, a lot of stupid, low % passes so far.
Wait, what do you mean by "didn't qualify"? Isn't eligible? Sorry if I am out of the loop here...
I'm pretty sure he isn't eligible but I don't have a scout account so I'm not positive. I think thats why they decided to push for Lawrence.
I give Beelein 2 more years, he'll have a crazy bunch of princeton-esque 3 point shooters going nuts on this wack-ass Big Ten basketball.
yeah his grades arent up to par for U-M or rutgers...they are saying he will sign with auburn tomorrow
@ogb
noon TJBlog #3: Pryor -- just sayin ...
Here's Gene's posts again, saying he's hearing T-P to U-M: mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&am...p;sto=pagestart
And I'm just sayin ... no one in A2 thinks this ... they think quite the opposite ... as of 1:30 PM today ... not saying there's bee a turndown, there hasn't ... but ... just sayin ...
and hey, i hope to HECK that Gene is right!
The link does not work for me because I do not have an account on scout. Is this Gene person legit?
Told Terrelle Pryor to follow Ryan Leaf's shining example and go to the Pac-10 powerhouse/Nike exhibit Oregon via facebook. No response yet.
Lets get some ol' fashioned SEC bashin' goin!
i really have no idea (i cant find that post so ill write what i remember) he said he heard from his guy in western PA that pryor was going to choose michigan and he had tried to contact ray reitz (pryor's coach) but he wasn't home so he would try later on today
OSU doesn't want to win this game.
he must have some credibility if tom is mentioning it..just a guess thoguh
I hear TP is basing his decision on the bball game.
Just for the sake of having something to root for, i'm pretending that TP is going to commit to the winner of this basketball game.
I gotta say, OSU looks really awful in gray uniforms. Looks like they're wearing old sweatsuits.
That 1998 class should really remind everyone here that we are over inflating the importance of some of tomorrow's decisons and rankings.
What the heck happened to that class!?!? Hensen and Fargas probably didn't have double digit starts combined in the Wolverine career. How many plays did they even appear on the same field together. Give me the Under on that.
Terrell and Walker rate as excellent college receivers. They produced those numbers playing with three different quarterbacks.
When they should have been seniors, only Walker remained. As it was pointed out above, that 2001 team was ragged at best. Walker lived up to his billing that year with one the more amazing statistical seasons a UM receiver has ever had.
We'll get our guys for sure tomorrow. But the new coaches have plenty of work to do coaching up the underclassmen currently on the team from the last few highly touted classes. As long as their aren't any surprises in the negative, this year's incoming freshmen will be no less talented.
I like our chances. Thanks, I'll hang up and listen now.
Jevon Shepard made a 3? WOW.
Stop looking at my cleavage, coach.
(speaking as EA, there)
Five posts today. Nice job Brian.
no, my point is..... why the F did that goofy hang on sloopy turn into a 'school song' while the bullwinkle thing rightfully stays a goofy thing that is unofficial at UM.
anyone see where the suns and the heat are talking about a trade? shaq for shawn marion...i dont know much about the nba but that seems like the worst trade ever for the suns..
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lew pop krenzel started a game in late 05 so lets see 03 04 05 3 seasons...
KRAIG KRENZLE IS NOW CURING CANCER ANOTHER GREAT BUCKEYE
P.S. osu is more known for WR, DB, DE, DT, LB, P, K, OL, ect ect
More entertainment off of the ESPN boards.
The title of this post reminds me of The Sand Pebbles, that great movie with Steve McQueen.
I feel good about several of these dudes left on our board making the right call and ending up blue.
If not, then we will have a couple extra scholies to spend on primo dudes next year.
the suns trading the matrix for shaq would probably be the worst trade since dirk for tractor traylor.
Nice post Jamie,
I agree totally. I would add we have a really different set of circumstances this year which really adds to the excitement.
I have been really encouraged by the level of recruit they have pulled, really impressed. They def have a different look (wr and ol esp), so I do think there will be some adjustment for both the staff and the players, but I think 8 wins is likely.
Point is, these young guys seem to think that RR is capable of repeating his performance, and we should be encouraged that this staff is pulling a higher recruit on average than they did at WVU.
Pryor or no, I am very happy. I am more concerned about Perry, I think he goes to USC. But this class is pretty good already, and they are going to be fun to watch.
JHS,
I agree 100%.
What are the chances of us winning this basketball game? I say 10-1
That 1998 class should really remind everyone here that we are over inflating the importance of some of tomorrow's decisons and rankings.
What the heck happened to that class!?!? Hensen and Fargas probably didn't have double digit starts combined in the Wolverine career. How many plays did they even appear on the same field together. Give me the Under on that.
While Fargas was a bust at M (was relative productive at SC and had actually had a relatively long NFL career, Henson was not at all a bust. He left early, which due to the coaches lack of forsight left us with a far from ready John Navarre as the only option, but Henson was very good before he left and certainly would have been even better had he stayed another year.
Walker and Terrell were excellent college receievers - Terrell a first round draft choice and both made serious contributions.
Don't see how that bolsters your point.
Wow Ron Coleman just hit a 3. 8-1.
The two teams look about even, to me. Michigan lacks talent, OSU lacks intensity.
M up by 5. M still looks rough, but they're playing well enough to stay ahead of the Bucks.
that 98 class panned out pretty well... henson & terrell left early, but they were very productive their Jr years. walker was a very good college receiver. fargas's issues were related to that terrible knee injury and the fact that the Atrain turned into the man.
COMON' OBAMA!!!!!
If Henson and Terrell stayed around for their senior year that offense would have went from not very good to explosive. But, unfortunately for Henson, he sucks at making career decisions.
didn't henson get 17M for the oppurtunity to play 3rd base for the yankees?
17M can't be right...
I bet the picture is old, I won't believe until I see a plane ticket, 2 forms of identification and a clearly visible seat number in the pictures. C'mon, do you really think a BUCKEYE fan from fosu would be sitting if 1st class??? or is bettis flying economy these days?
All I remember is that he got an enormous signing bonus, and then did nothing. He couldn't hit or field. Yankees like to fuck things up for other teams, apparently even college football teams. Bastards.
All I remember is that he got an enormous signing bonus, and then did nothing. He couldn't hit or field. Yankees like to fuck things up for other teams, apparently even college football teams. Bastards.
You do know that Steinbrenner is an OSU alum, don't you.
God, Musenburger pisses me off every game he does, without exception. So excited now that OSU is on a run, but didn't seem to notice UM's in the first half until it was 13-2.
Why is Brutus Buckeye in all these ESPN ads?
Wow. And I thought I couldn't despise him any more than I did. But now I do.
From the Drew Henson Wiki entry:
Henson played professional baseball for the Columbus Clippers, then the AAA affiliate of the Yankees, during the next two years, but only had 9 at-bats in the majors. In 2004, he chose to give up baseball and return to football, joining the Dallas Cowboys after they traded their third round pick in the 2005 NFL Draft to the Houston Texans in exchange for Henson's services.[2]
On Thanksgiving Day 2004, Henson started his first game for Dallas. Henson went 4-12 for 31 passing yards in the first half before leaving the game with the score tied at seven. Head coach Bill Parcells opted to insert veteran quarterback Vinny Testaverde and the team went on to win the game 21-7. In 2005, Henson had a poor training camp showing and landed third on the depth chart behind Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo.
After the 2005 campaign, Parcells announced that Drew Henson would be allocated to NFL Europe league to work on his skills. In 2006, Henson was assigned to the Rhein Fire of NFL Europe, where he almost led them to the World Bowl only to finish third behind the Frankfurt Galaxy and the Amsterdam Admirals. On August 23, 2006, Parcells stated that Henson would not be on the Cowboys 2006 roster. With Bledsoe as the starter, and Romo having had a strong preseason, Parcells was not inclined to keep Henson on the roster. His official status was unclear until August 24, when he was officially released. Having cleared waivers, Henson was free to sign with any NFL team. On September 27, Henson signed on to the practice squad of the Minnesota Vikings, but was then released on October 10. He was signed again by the Minnesota Vikings on December 6, 2006.
On March 15, 2007, Henson signed a one-year contract with the Minnesota Vikings.[3] However, he was cut from the team during training camp August 27, 2007. Despite falling short in Minnesota, Henson continues to pursue an NFL career. According to ESPN.com, Henson tried out for the Jacksonville Jaguars in late October 2007 because of an injury to quarterback David Garrard, but the Jaguars instead signed Todd Bouman to a one-year contract. [4]
Does anyone else find it funny that Musberger referred to Pryor as the #1 recruit in the country, when ESPN has him at like #4?
Hensen did have 17M reasons to leave football and sign with the Yanks.
From Steinbrenner's Wiki:
Afterwards he did post graduate study at The Ohio State University (1954-55), where he met his wife, and served as a graduate assistant to legendary Buckeye football coach Woody Hayes.
I had no idea. AND that son of a bitch coached there.
"A few of Pryor's friends and acquaintances told the Post-Gazette Ohio State is Pryor's top choice. One unnamed source said Pryor told him recently he would sign with Ohio State."
We should know better than to listen to this crap by now...
@BriGoBlue from 5:37pm
BCC fo' sho'!!!
Wind Machine???? BK Karate???
I remember the then gm of the Texans (Casserly?) being on record as saying that had he chosen football and had a solid senior year, Henson was a near lock for the franchises 1st pick (No. 1 overall).
Steinbrenner is a Northwestern alum, but he was born n raised in Ohio.
17M + the oppurtunity to be a 10yr starter at the 5 at Yankee Stadium is nothing to sneeze at.
But Henson wasn't playing baseball at U of M at the time. Did he just figure that he could jump back into the sport? He definitely figured he could jump back into football, and look how that worked for him.
His chances at 17M in football wasnt guarenteed and as much as I hate them - it's the Yankees
bada, i guess so.... basically, he played summer ball and didn't do too much. not sure why he went to AAA tho..... atypical for new players.
what a bunch of idiots jumping around. my god, lock those fools up.
Watching them play is painful
which team? LOL they are both garbage....
UDOH!!!
P.S. osu is more known for WR, DB, DE, DT, LB, P, K, OL, ect ect
Whoever said that, I think ill go ahead and say I would take Michigan's WRs over OSU's, but i guess thats just me
@long
That was just some idiot poster on the ESPN boards attempting to use english to construe some sort of argument together, and he failed miserably. An OSU fan, obviously.
did musberger just call him dr. smooth
I wish that guy would stop hitting 27 foot 3-point shots. he's bugging me.
But Henson wasn't playing baseball at U of M at the time. Did he just figure that he could jump back into the sport?
I think he was playing short season baseball during the spring/summer, just not for michigan. Former MSU QB Tony Banks did the same thing in the Twins organization.
Listen to those FUCKEYES CRY!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH FOUL? NOT US!!
did musberger just call him dr. smooth
I am not even suffering through the game and your description of Musberger is making me feel as nauseous as if I were listening to him "liiiive on CBS"
How cute, Brett Musberger just said damn.
Allegedly, you're out of it for Pryor.
Care to explain?
Looks like this one is getting away from us. Oh well. They're getting better.
@RUTS is that based on this alleged text to Paterno that he's down to PSU and OSU? That would mean that Paterno knows how to receive a text message...I don't believe
why do they stand so far away from the basket all the time, jesus... DRIVE THE FUCKING BALL.
They need to learn how to take good shots. Grady was open, but he was 23 feet away from the basket.
it's like anything inside the 3pt line is off limits for this team
Manny is a slasher, not a 25 foot jacker.
it's early but i don't know about beilein.. the way you beat the zone is to drive and kick, not pass back and forth between two guys 10 ft behind the 3 pt line.
this scheme sucks.
is beilein an idiot? he needs to adapt his style of play to the big ten. yes he needs players but telling bad shooters to shoot 30 threes a game isn't working. the pass the ball around the perimeter for the whole shot clock and jack a three offense isn't the answer
does anybody else relize we dont beet ohio state in any thing.
I FUCKING HATE THE BUCKEYEs
shit is tought to watch.
Frickin' Mallett goes for broke:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
id=3232753
Bobby P and Ryan M--made for each other.
I bet he transfers again before it's over.
WRL
Carr Ruined the football program he should have told bill he was leaving a long time ago im nit sure about rich.
even if we get pryor michigan is not going to be that good.
jd you're an idiot. Just don't talk.
jd-
You're an idiot.
You beat me to it, Tim.
Why can't those little assholes close a fucking game? They've pulled the same shit again. They had another fucking scoring drought late in the game and it was over. Last year was Amaker's fault, but these guys have got to learn how to play the whole 40 minutes.
jd=just don't. LOL
Earlier people were arguing about the importance of Barwis. I'm pretty sure he's going to make the Wolverines ministers of death praying for war (and other things referred to in Full Metal Jacket)...
run up the score is a moron just a psu fan that has sour grapes towards TP
Actually, I have little to no idea what's going on.
@ Toronto Blue. Steinbrenner is an OSU alum and former coach. See wiki entry above or click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Geo...ge_Steinbrenner
Actually, I have little to no idea what's going on.
really.....
who's gonna replace Crable next year?
people on OSU forums are way too uptight
@jblaze
i knew he did not go to OSU for undergrad, just had the wrong ivy covered walls, LOL. he def raped UM on purpose with Henson's offer - "take it or leave it - it won't be on the table after your senior year". and if i remember correctly, Henson had to give some of those signing $ back to the Yanks when he switched sports, right?
Buckeye planet has a thread for basically every recruit out there, esp. michigan ones.
2 of the 5 Rivals "experts" still have Perry pegged for MSU even after his announcement today dropping them. None of the 5 think he's Blue, however.
Here's the PM I got. The guy that sent this to me would know... he has a friend on the Trottwood staff.
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Roundtree offerred by michigan....if britt gets offer they get him and roundtree maybe shaw
When did Perry drop MSU?
I thought Roundtree was signing with Purdue
HILARIOUS
MSU RECRUITING: Flint RB Mark Ingram shuns Spartans for Saban, Alabama
February 5, 2008
FREE PRESS STAFF AND NEWS SERVICES
Running back Mark Ingram from Flint said on Tuesday he will attend the University of Alabama next season.
"It's not tough for me to leave the state," Ingram told Scout.com. "From the beginning I said I wanted to do what was best for me. I found that place at Alabama. It was a long hard decision, but I am going. It's off my shoulders."
Heard on the radio today Ingram always "dreamed of playing in the SEC."
Douchebag.
How in the world does MSU only have one four-star commit? What a dreadful recruiting class.
Tyler Hoover was a 4-star but he dropped down to a 3 later in the season. I never thought he was good enough for a 4-star (even when UM was after him before his commitment). Pat Massey-esque. BTW I hate piling on either of the Massey brothers...they're just a great family and two really good guys and IMO Pat was just playing the WRONG position. Whoever said we were idiots b/c we took Mike over Kellen Davis missed the fact that Davis is a complete d-bag, pos, asshole. I'll take a great kid and a decent TE over Davis who really only looked good b/c he was one of their only good players in general. Yup.
They are Michigan State, and that is their answer.
I posted the Perry will not be going to MSU link at 7:10 just search up to find it.
Rivals says TP is not announcing tomorrow. Motherfucker. He is going to pull some Ronald Curry bullshit and decide in two months.
Give me Britt and measure him for a custom-tailored red shirt.
The second part of that previous post is me being pissed off. I don't know when he is going to announce.
Can anyone point me to information on Charles Mitchell, Safety, Clarksdale Miss. Has he been mentioned before? ESPN article has it down to us, Miss. State, Nebraska and Southern Miss.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/r...ht&
lid=tab2pos1
Don't remember hearing his name before, but I don't follow this like some others.
Back to the 1998 recruiting class.
Some of you were looking a bit too deep into what I was saying. I was not labeling it or any of the players a bust, although I do think Henson is the biggest myth in UM football history. He made all of eight starts in his UM career.
But, what exactly did that core accomplish as a team here at UM. They won zero outright big 10 titles. Hopefully next time UM gets four of the top 11, two of them play defense--I am looking at you 2000 Purdue and Northwestern games! So, maybe the teams underachieved at times, but not because the four guys in question were busts.
I think our class looks strong, even if the actual rankings the recruiting experts could be better. Ton of potential, and we still have a ton of potential that we really haven't tapped from the last two or three classes. The new coaching staff will be doing some amazing things with it. We're headed towards being a much better and harder to play against program whether Pyror comes here or not. He can be part of an amazing revival, or miss the boat. His call.
Just remember how highly touted Chad Henne was and little regarded Troy Smith was. Yet look where the rivalry stands.
The latest Rivals post on the situation says he announces tomorrow for sure...
Keanon Cooper ended up signing with Minnesota today. I have to hand it to Minny - their best class in quite a long time
Read between the lines of this one and tell me what you think BBB:
Significant development in Terrelle Pryor recruitment ...
from Mike Farrell on the Rivals.com national board:
"Terrelle Pryor just called me a few minutes ago and said he's now not signing tomorrow. He said he's 100-percent sure he's not signing. He said he's going to take an official visit to Penn State for sure, hopefully a weekend visit, and might visit Oregon. He said he is just not sure of his choice as of right now.
"He has had numerous discussions with his father who really likes the way Penn State has recruited Terrelle. Penn State has been to Terrelle's father's house numerous times and had done a good job making him feel comfortable that PSU is the right place for his son.
"So as of now it's OSU, Michigan, PSU and Oregon for his services with no signing date set. He could change his mind again when he wakes up, so I am simply reporting what he's telling me.
"Trust me, he is not doing this for the attention, this kid sounds as torn up about a decision as any I've covered. And he is aware of the reputation that some folks are pinning on him and to that he told me he has to do what is right for him and can't worry about public opinion. He and his family come first and this is an important decision that he's not going to rush for anyone.
"Good news for PSU fans here no doubt."
The Brady Quinn EAS commercial just came on TBS. I hate him stil.
If he doesn't come here I hope he goes to PSU, JoPa is an expert at turning great offensive recruits into mediocre players.
anything that keeps him away from OSU is fine by me...it'd be nice to find out though. kind of annoying, but i ain't mad at him.
No way he ends up at PSU, unless really wants to play in a stone age offense and not start until he is a rs senior.
I'm pissed because I have been extremely unproductive the past few days because of NSD, and now Pryor isn't even signing. I'm probably going to be even more unproductive. Damn.
If there was a way to make Pryor go to Oregon now I'd do it. I want him not to go to OSU more than I want him to go to UM.
What happens with Brit if Pryor doesn't decide tomorrow? assuming we are waiting on a pryor decision to offer
Thanks for the ht Brian.
Unless Britt has some gigantic cojones, he isn't going to end up here. Thats my guess.
Bada bing
Agreed. Now I'm not sure if waiting to sign helps UM, but I really don't think it helps tOSU. And someone explain to me, if the kid wants to look at Oregon, why the hell doesn't he take a freaking trip out there? Seems like he's been agonizing over a simple weekend trip for 3 weeks. Its not like he HAS to sign tomorrow and he sure won't have to pay his way...
For the record, I was agreeing to not being productive & now having to wait longer. I cannot speak for the size of Britt's cojones.
This shit is unbelievably stupid. I can't believe I care.
I 100% guarantee pryor signs tomorrow and he's just telling rivals to get off his cock. And He's 100% osu. And I 100% guarantee this post is 100% uninformed.
BlueSeoul - are you 100% sure about that one? 97%?
"Rivals.com recruiting analyst Mike Farrell confirmed with Terrelle Pryor this morning that he will 100 percent sign tomorrow. He's down to Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State and will announce at 12:05 p.m. ET on television."
This is the latest thing I could find on rivals. Not sure if there is new premium info though.
Charles Mitchell? I see only one brief mention in Brian's writeup but he seems to have not been mentioned again. Looks like Brian projects 2 safeties in this class and this would be our second. I think it is an area of need. Also, I like starting to get in roads into SEC areas, even if it is Mississippi.
I don't have premium either but my friend who does emails me premium stuff now and then. Mike Farrell just went on the premium message board and posted the stuff that I just posted up above.
Did you guys know that Tenuta came up with this new position for Zibikowski to play? It's like a cornerback/safety hybrid, called "boxer" in their scheme... interesting.
As of 10:08 p.m. ET, Rivals.com recruiting analyst Mike Farrell confirmed with Terrelle Pryor that he will not sign on National Signing Day. He's down to Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon and Penn State and still has plans for an official visit to Penn State.
From rivals no prem info
Good to know that Fitzgerald is solid.
I'm almost 100% sure the Zibi-boxerguy has used up all his eligibility.
Mitchell dropped us. He wanted to stay south IIRC.
Dammit Pryor just pick a damn school so I can get on with my life.
I guess we'll know by around 11:15 tomorrow whether or not Perry is blue.
@JHS
Odd how some of us can't get on with ours until he gets on with his.
Damnit pryor, shit or git off da pot
re: Perry
From rivals
Crabtree predicts that perry comes to Michigan
caup,
ok i see the fact that i am a football coach, and a pretty well respected one i might add... and the fact that i grew up in michigan, and actually hated the south, and the fact that i played both highschool and college football, and the fact that i have no reason to lie, is not enough to convince you that highschool football is better in north carolina than michigan. Yet, 1 list from this year showing the top 250 players ranked shows that michigan has more than north carolina, and the fact that their are more michigan born players in the nfl than nc, is enough to convince you that north carolina is not as good as michigan in HIGHSCHOOL football.
how about this, michigan recruits the south heavily,, how many southern schools recruit michigan? oh i know there are some, and all, but overall u of m recruits the country a heck of a lot more than the country recruits michigan highschools... its a matter of numbers in the south the season is almost 2 months longer... you have spring ball, and all kinds of things that michigan is not aloud to have.
im trying real hard to not get into a a know more than you thread here. But i think i am one of the few, not the only, but one of the few on here , that can speak on the issue of highschool football as compared to michigan and north carolina without talking out of my ass.. ]
there are a lot of stupid north carolina athletes that will never play int he nfl or major college, becasue the eduaction down here, for the most part is a joke, but as far as the speed of the game, well i have invited each and everyone of you to come down and talk football and hang on more than one occasion.... there are about 20 former michigan coaches down here, that would say the same thing .
sorry guys i promise not to tlak about this anymore, and i appologize, sometimes at 6'3 245 you are use to people listening to you without having to explain yourself 50 times, doesnt come across to well on a laptop.
I belive it was Miami and just change to michigan
here is link
http://footballrecruiting.rivals...=880&
CID=761957
I hope Crab is right. I also heard him say that he hates the fact that his editors force him to make predictions, which he believes are inherently unreliable with high school kids etc.
Its NSD in London already. I just checked BBC's website... no big news. Damn.
You're talking to michigan folk, you need to drive by in the trans am and flash the 'stache
gsims
I'm down here in TX. Is it safe to say we have above average HS football?
man the bb game really pissed me off we had the damn game in the grasp
toledo man does scout have anything about Pryor delaying his decision.
I was going to wake up early and watch what he was going to do, but hell I'll sleep in if he isn't going to declare.
no doubt, texas football is by far the most insane highschool football around....
i would rank in order the top school just like most...
texas, florida, cali, ohio, georgia, etc
when i was in arkansas guys there from texas would take me to their home comming games, just plan insane...
sorry blue soul, dont have a mustache...
I don't doubt that at all gsim -- Michigan's talent is all spread out, sometimes spread thin.
Michael Shaw: 9:00 am
Onterio (to AUB) McCalebb: 10:15 am
Nick Perry: 11:00 am
Terrelle Pryor: Noon???
One recommendation ... just let Perry and Pryor make their decisions ...
JHS: Why would you have to wake up early? Are you on the west coast?
dude i cant believe pryor is delaying...this is destroying my life
toledo: what do you mean about Pryor and Perry?
After weeks of deliberation Princeton Junction, NJ LB J.B. Fitzgerald ended any remaining questions about his recruitment Tuesday night. The Rutgers Scarlet Knights were able to persuade him to take another look in the aftermath of the coaching change in Ann Arbor, but in the end the Maize & Blue was strong to overcome.
“I definitely saw some new things,” Fitzgerald said referring to his in-state school. “I grew closer with the staff and the official visit they blew me out of the water. But after a lot of thinking and just weighing it out, I figured Michigan was the best place for me. I thought it out in my mind, my heart, and my gut… and they were all telling me that Michigan is where I need to be right now. I’m going to sign with Michigan tomorrow.”
Be sure to tune in to Sports Talk 1050 WTKA tomorrow morning for a special interview with J.B Fitzgerald in the 8:00 hour. Those not in the listening area can listen on-line by going to www.wtka.com and clicking on the “Listen Live” link.
Pretty good looking LB prospect here. Tackles extremely well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J...pSq1i2PD3c&
NR=1
those are their announcment times...but TP is messing with us all
I'm happy about the delay. I was thinking 99% done deal to OSU, so a delay is better than having him sign with OSU tomorrow. If PSU gets him they'll still suck. I have serious trouble picturing TP signing on to freakin' JayPa as the guy to guide him to the NFL though, gimme a break
i will say that charlotte ind. about 4 years ago, was the greatest highschool football team i have ever seen.... try scheming against a team, with chris leak(florida) at qb. and massaquoi(georgia), at receiver, that was just two of their studs, but really all they needed, i believe this year ended their reign as the longest current winning streak in the country..
@Gravy I have to get up early to see TP because I sleep in on thurs (no work or class, get to catch up on sleep).
gsim
I am actually here in Midland TX. 10 miles east of Odessa. Friday Night lights (the movie) doesn't do any justice to the insanity of high school football around here. Graduated from Klein Oak in Houston (T-robs place)
well just got home, thought id say a few lines, i got busy work all ready lined up for tomorrow to keep me free to catch all the action online tomorrow...
heres thinkin we end up in the top ten by the end of the day tomorrow!!!
@gsims
De La Salle in california is another great football HS - they had Matt guttierez and Maurice Drew on the same team, they were nasty.
The delay on Pryor means two things:
1). He's actually torn on this and all of the predictors are definitively speculating.
2). Given (1), its time we just let it go and wait. I think its sometimes fun to anticipate and guess as to where a guy is going, but at this point I see no point in thinking about it anymore until he decides and faxes the letter. I mean - this definitively proves that we know nothing and will continue to know nothing. Time to take a break from Pryor mania and come back to it when he makes a choice.
(note to all: this is purely for my own benefit - it may not apply to everyone. heck, you may have decided this months ago)
Good lord then -- don't get up early!
jhs i am reading that he will not sign tomorrow
About some of the Shaw/Mcguffie comments earlier...
I went to Alter (where shaw played up till his senior year, when he transfered to trotwood) and I went to most of the football games. Shaw is fast, and has some moves when he gets to the outside and when he is in the open field, but he lacks the ability to run up the center. That was most obvious in the Div. III state game that year, when we lost to Steubenville. His only big runs where down the side of the field.
I'm sure this can be adapted, and I'd love to have him come because of his talent. I just feel Mcguffie would be better in the backfield, with shaw out as a receiver.
i bet the high school team with alex smith at qb and reggie bush was pretty good too
What is Scout talking about TJ lawrence? Didn't he already commit to UF?
my borther in law, they are in anna texas now,
played against that team from friday night lights....
he was one of the guys i went to homecomming with...
no doubt, you want to know how important highschool football is to a state, take a look at coaching suplements.... texas is insane...
MTS i went to centerville...crazy
Lawrence is undecided still.
im went to school between centerville and cincinnati, centerville is like osu's prep high school for football, good thing you got out OGB
You see that stadium at Cy Fair? It's amazing. That Cali school Mater Dei is always good too. Where was Greg Skrepanak from -- was it Wilkes Barre?
heck yeah de la salle is great, you look at top highschool teams int he country there are always at the top or near it...
i forgot penn also has great higschool football, right up there with ohio,
2. Regarding WR's ... the WRs-Mccalebb news we ran this noon (going to AUB, not getting into U-M/RUT ... mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&am...p;sto=pagestart ) has a ramification ... we're told TJ Lawrence has taken notice and is recontacting everyone (Fla., SCAR., U-M) at this last sec ... he's rethinking things ... will it overtake Fla. for TJ? Still not reeeeal likely (altho anything is possible of course), but U-M may at least finish 2nd instead of 3rd now ... are there points for 'close' in recruiting?
i moved to midland from southlake, tx (home of chase daniels) and that is also some psycho HS football. Several Dallas Cowboy kids on that squad and until this year won 4 out of 5 state championships. it's called a cult. we have about 17,000 fans at the midland games each weekend.
lovin it.
Alabama is producing this year. Alabama's class is about 80% Alabama kids.
latr fellas!!!!
Gsims - I'm a proud De La Salle alum, albeit Warren DLS and not the California school, but same thing.
centerville (where i went) they just got field-turf and have a insane jumbo tron type scoreboard but their not any good...i think herbstreit funded it..
early Tu eve TJBlog: more on Lawrence
One thing in U-M's favor: U-M is telling TJ he can play both ways ... (and of course what I said before: ) ... he's gonna re-decide tonight ... he's talking to all schools one more time - Fla, SCar, U-M.
toledo man, that's enough
yeah alabama is big time highschool football, tenn, is some parts, ark, in some parts...
s.c. football is great as well...
The one problem with 'Bama's class is that probably 4 or 5 of those kids won't end up being eligble to play because of academics.
LongforHeisman,
i know man it was terrible living there..worst bunch of buckstache assholes you could ever run into
The Bettis story just got a little more interesting...
http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/me...ono/6199068/0/
1
check out his avatar now...
My high school played on a lumpy prairie-dog-town, dirtpatch of a field with bleachers for about 600. But it wasn't ours. We didn't have one. We borrowed it.
Bama better hope some of their recruits are ineligible. Otherwise they'll have some awkward phone calls to make.
Can someone tell me how Washington has the #10 recruiting class - Tyrone couldn't recruit kids to ND but he can get kids to go to Washington after multiple losing seasons.
Always nice to see that FAT Charlie has a big time recruiting class...
Bolosak definitely is standing by Jerome Bettis! TP is Blue!
Can anybody identify the background of that Bettis picture as DTW?
Though Bettis might've said that, we are all assuming he is right. He could be completely wrong.
That's most definitely DTW. McNamara Terminal, upper level.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com...s.ap/
index.html
someone prob posted this already but whatever...
Who knows if Bettis was merely joking or if this guy actually talked to him about Pryor. I don't even think Pryor knows what he is doing, maybe we'll find out some day.
Wasn't it Bettis who mouthed off about Bill Cowher leaving the Steelers -- and he got into some hot water about it? He's not exactly Allan Greenspan.
@Orlando Go Blue
That's cool, small world! Alter plays home games there now. We had another good year, but dropped a division, and when you're in the same division as Mooney, things don't always end so well.
Like I said about Shaw though, raw speed, little ability to go up the center.
Only highlight of Shaw here is him...well, having an unfortunate time in the backfield.
@2:07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E...h?
v=EWlDcbKVr2Q
Great player if he can find a way to get outside.
Gots lotsa stuff for you.
1. Pryor not announcing. Actually Bob KNEW that this afternoon, just had to softpedal it a little ... but we gont other confirmation of it just now. BTW, this is bad for OSU more than good for U-M ... someday I MAY be able to say why ... good for PSU tho of course.
2. Nick Perry ... this one is just a guess, but Sam still thinks U-M
don't go away ...
3. Roy Roundtree - HAS been offered tonight ... will he pick U-M? Not sure.
4. Shaw -- no feel yet ... 9 am announcement
MORE TO COME
Wow -- signing day right after Super Tuesday.
So is Pryor going to have a press conference to say he isn't announcing or is this some form of a buckeye trap?
How is that good UM and Penn state??
I really think Pryor is just delaying to make his dad happy, its still between OSU/UofM.
I don't think PSU would even be in the mix if hes father didn't like JoPa as much as he does.
be cause that means he is not a lock for tosu as everyone keeps saying
i heard he would have the press conference either way announcing his decision or saying he is going to delay...i bet espn is shitting a brick right now
Well, I think I give up. I can't stand it anymore. Silence until noon tomorrow.
You know what would be kind of sweet? If within an hour Alex Legion's mother legally adopted TP, and then had God tell her that he should go to Michigan. He would be a Wolverine by 10:15 AM, and I would be able to go on with my workday.
Then he would be a Wildcat by August, and then an Illinus, and then...
Two guys picking U-M tomorrow ... we "think"
Ricky Barnum
Onterio McCalebb (I know, I know ... more to come)
I dont understand all the "he wants to stay close to home" statments if he is still thinking about UofO.
well ya no he can't sign the same day as everyone else he wants all the attention when he does sign
I'm giving up recruiting websites for Lent.
Can't. Take. Anymore.
I will not be happy if Pryor delays this thing past my seven day free trial.
Barnum is HUGE if that is actually going to happen.
Barnum, McCalebb??
i no one thing i sure hope we get perry tomorrow that will make for a great day
I'm about ready to shoot myself in the face after the last two days of Pryor-ness
come on Perry!
How sad is it that I read the latest on TP and thought to myself: "At least we know for sure that we won't know for sure tomorrow."
is perry still giving everyone the silent treatment?
Does the Big Ten limit schools to 25 schollies/yr. If so, we are getting dangerously close...will there still be a scholarship for TP? We're at 21, if by luck we got Perry, Shaw, Barnum, and McCalebb we would be at 25. Perhaps Stonum counts as an '07, but there is also Roundtree and a couple others I think.
we can go over 25 schollies
also barnum is a florida commit..so that would be awesome to steal him
Perry ... no new news... sticking with my gut... Still think he'll pick Michigan
McCalebb... new news... feeling really good
Barnum... new news... feeling really good
Roundtree... Michigan made it's move... 50/50?
Shaw no new news.... 50/50?
MLAWyer... yes, 25 per year, and 85 total scholly players on the roster. And it's the NCAA regulations, not just a Big Ten thing.
Toledo man,if we get those first 3 tomorrow,tickle me pink!lol I'll be drunk by 4 tomorrow!
i really think perry's out..goin to usc. im actually relieved that pryor isnt announcing tomarrow.....now i can SLEEP ! AND YES.....WE WILL HOLD A SCHOLI FOR TP
so how does alabama have 29 commits right now on the eve of NSD?
Ok, so I have conflicting answers, but assuming I am right....is this a bad sign? Is Michigan not saving a spot for TP?
Why did RR extend offer to Roundtree? The guy is not that good.
I really think Perry is going to Michigan
yeah and minnesota has 30
We might be out of scholarships by the time Pryor decides provided all 21 of our current recruits do sign we only have 4 more open.
rivals has minny at 31
I know some schools over-sign b/c they know players wont get in.
So glad to hear about Fitz also!!
I'm sure Martin will open up more scholarships if we run out.
sec rules are different
Ummm McCalebb is 154 lbs. at 5'10?!?! How is that possible? Dude is a twig.
MLaw is right not all of those guys are going to be able to get in because of academic issues the SEC typically over recruits by a few schollies a year, because a handful never even make it on to campus.
They didn't ask Herbstreit where he thinks Pryor is going in Good Call/Bad Call on SportsCenter...
thank god
when you count scholie's Stonum doesn't count because he was an early enrollee
so 25 is a Big 10 rule not ncaa. 10 of rivals top 25 have 26 or more.
RYAN..... hope your right but hes been silent since visit to usc and its benn common for pete carroll to put recruits from this side of the country in shut down mode leading up to loi day.....to keep eastern schools away
Seriously...Roundtree????
morales will grey shirt..there is your extra schollie
25 is because that's the only number of scholarships we have available
Sorry, I didnt mean to say that I really believed that we wouldnt have a spot for TP, it will just be interesting to see what happens when we are getting close to a full class....
grey shirt?
maizerulz,ROJO wasnt that quite last year after his visit.
Morales ... we hear ... gray shirt ... meaning they think they need the schollie!
starting to make sense
What if Morales doesn't want to grey shirt what if he is a long snapper with an attitude? He may think he is the prized recruit and pryor can kiss his ass.
grey shirt means that the kid came in for winter semester
Ah, I see.
I REALLY wish we had Marquise Gray.
i bet he could beat the crap out of TP. of course would never catch him.
done deal already gray shirted
morales can kiss MY ass !!!!
I hope TP doesnt choose a school thrusday,I'm going snowboarding that day! LOL
i still cant believe gray is going to minny. i've heard all the excuses why but dont get it still
Sorry guys... actually 25 IS an NCAA restriction on how many High School recruits a team can have.
25 is the NCAA ruling on High School kids that can be recruited. That doesn't include JuCo transfers though. That's why you'll see #'s higher than 25.
ESPBN has a great page here: http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/r...ker%
2fscorecard
Look at any of the schools over with 25 commits there, and you'll see that the rest of them are JuCo transfers.
Hope that makes sense!
So Morales has been greyshirted already before he even steps on campus or signs his LOI?
25 and 85 are ncaa rules. However, you can offer as many as you wish--you can only give out a max of 25 per year. Offers and NLIs are not contracts.
nice Andy. Thanks.
Doesn't Bama have 29 NOT counting Juco transfers?
mcguffie is 100% solid..
"Everyone that thinks they get to keep their scholarship offer take one step forward. Not so fast Roundtree. Now that TP has picked us we want yours back."
Sounds like a fun phone call.
With Omameh being #21
Moreles-waiting - down to 20
Barnum - 21
McCalebb - 22
for the remaining 3: held for:
- Perry
- Pryor
- Roundtree
... for now ... maybe Briss gets offered eventually, or maybe Morales gets his schollie right away.
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orlando,
why do you dump all the scout stuff verbatim on this board, mix it up a little man thats lazy, plus you shouldn't be postin that on a free board anyway
What does Morales think about being grey shirted - he kinda seems like a prima donna, dude is all me all the time.
Doesn't this mean we lose a scholie for next season though?
Gray shirt means winter semester of the following year (Morales). Green shirt is early admission (Stonum).
seriously toledo man stop posting all that premium stuff
I cannot see Pryor going to PSU. I was in Happy Valley this past weekend to see Sparty gag against the Nittany's (needed a fix of Big 10 Bball) and all I hear is JoePa has one more year then it is either Schiano or JayPa. Pryor could experience what Mallett did- one year in...new coach...new system...transfer. He's not going to go that route. State College is a great town but...
The longer he avoids making a decision the more OSU is going to panic. They will act like the 16 year old controlling, manipulative girlfriend.
I think there needs to be an extended national TP gag order after tomorrow if he does not announce. If this occurs we will hear from him by the weekend...if not sooner.
Regardless if we get him or not....there is always the next stud in the class of 2009.
VAWolv
sec has weird recruiting
We should offer Britts man. I was reading the OSU boards, and those wussies were crying because he was considering UM
25 Scholarships is the NCAA rule. If you get too many commits and they're all eligible, you have to cull the kids at the bottom. So if all those Bama kids make it in, they'll have to cut some of them, grayshirt them etc.
So if TP isnt choosing tomorrow,when will he??
sorry if saying mcguffie is 100% solid offended you
Keep the info coming Toledo Man. We appreciate it.
roundtree could be part of a plan to snag shaw. if so, would be worth it, imo.
TP will choose when he can legally drink
you copy/pasted bro, you aint the only dude with a scout account just chill out of the premium info. trust.
I can't believe Ingram went to Bama, that has shady written all over it.
i'm tryin to tell you it's not worth it in the end
Less arguing more speculation please.
Alright. But I really can't see Roundtree actually playing for UM. I see him on the sidelines dancing
fair enough..ill stop
BBB - Sorry, I you're right. I shouldn't have said that NONE of the schools have more than 25 HS kids... but most schools will avoid getting more than the 25 allowed recruits, as they can only sign 25 of them. After all, nobody is 100% locked in until they sign. All commitments are just verbal right now.
anyone posting premium info on this bored should stop. if you really care about brian then you realize this is not good for him.
TheTruth=internet feds
Good for Ingrham not going to MSU, Saban probably said you can't win at MSU, thats why I'm at Bama - so you should be at Bama too.
haha no, but just be cool.
it's true, all the pasting of premium info is just going to hurt mgoblog
Why are we recruiting Mike Shaw anyways? Isn't he listed as a RB, how many more RBs does michigan need?
We already have Guff, Grady, Brown, Minor. NO MORE RBS!!!
and here we go with the premium stuff again my god shut the hell up singing day is tomorrow then im done with scout
i dont get what recourse scout or rivals would have against a site if its message board posters post premium information. or is the riaa branching out?
You guys really can get Brian in trouble for posting that stuff.
MORE RB'S!!!!
i dont car one way or the other but how does brian get hurt for whatever guys say on here
Dude, it'll take them a long time to catch on to premium info be posted on here. I post on another board and we shared premium info for years before they stopped us. All they did was send a warning. Brian will be fine as long as we stop after the warning.
That's a stupid commit by Ingram. He will never see the field at Bama.
RR is recruiting shaw as a slot Receiver.
He warned us like a week ago already
Brian is responsible one way or the other for everything that his website sponsors/allows.
Well... the good news is IT'S NOW NATIONAL SIGNING DAY!!!!
brian posts scout shit so dont give me that
i cant imagine trob and shaw both in the slot. that would be entertainment
That Dantonio - what a recruiter! He'll end up with what, maybe the 8th best class in the Big Ten? Almost got outrecruited by Brian Kelley at Cinci.
@MY
Brian did? If that's the case, then we should do whatever he says.
doesnt seem like it would make sense NOT to recruit shaw. ranked higher than mcguffie by two sites. i live in cincy, he's from dayton, and people down here are saying nice things about him.
i guess im just a firm believer of taking the best talent and the best athletes. would it help u of m more to offer the same scholly to a two star safety? most likely not.
brian does not copy/paste their journalist's exact blog posts. however, brian has a right to post a published article (which often hit scout/rivals first) and give his own comments. plagiarism is illegal (i.e. copy/paste)
When is Breaston going to have babies, we need to get on recruiting his children ASAP
I'm a lawyer and there is nothing that scout can do about it.
these "dont post premium info" threats are vaguely masonic.
Give Orlando and Toledo a fucking break - they can make their own decisions in life don't tell them what they can or can't do.
If UM is going after Shaw, why not go after the gansta himself, DeVoe Torrence? He would be our highest ranked prospect from Ohio
Shaw is very good! But he isn't built for a traditional running back role IMO. I went to HS with him for 3 years, watched him play for 3 years, and the fact is that he is a great runner that can put moves on in the open field and can burn people down the sidelines, but he has a hard time going up and powering through the middle.
In college he is built to be a receiver of some sort.
well then go away and dont read it
MORE
Shaw is out
Roundtree will commit
Barnum to stay with UF
Britt not offered cuz a certain QB fro PA
well - i guess this amazing discussion has taken our minds off TP. thanks. i guess.
if true, toledo man, roundtree is a waste of a scholarship
you guys never learn
I'm with MTS I don't think Shaw can be a RB in college, but he could be a nice player in the slot.
OSU dropped Devoe so he must have been really sketch.
so was Mike Hart
barnum in, barnum out, barnum in, does he spend a lot of time with TP
and here we go name was jacked from me
In about 12 more hours, we'll likely know for sure that we're not going to know for a while.
That will be a huge relief.
look,
it's not personally offending me that people post premium stuff. but there are a lot of $$ involved with a lot of this info and those people don't like it. i dont want to freak people out but this blog could suffer from this kind of stuff especially since it is an exact copy/paste. it would be ashamed that it was cut off because a few of us want to be rebels. if you are gonna post it at least paraphrase...
Indeed shaw could play a very strong role as a receiver. Don't know if he'd drop the PSU commit so late in the game though
We really need an MGoBoard to deal with handle jacking
We are just getting Roundtree so we can have Rich Rod and Shaft.
TWO QUESTIONS
1) Why not DeVoe Torrence?
2) Why the hell did we offer Feagin over Britt?
didnt torrence gang rape a 14 year old??
HFH
Britt is a project. Only played 2 years of QB w/ only one having a QB coach. Feagin can come in right away and play.
McCaleb called a few mins ago to commit
Morales will greyshirt
Hearing from Bob L. that Pryor to PSU looking real-ity
i really can't believe people become such cry babys over this shit
no MgoBoard. then we wouldnt have haloscan and there is nothing I look forward to more than a couple hours a day with haloscan
@TheTruth
You're right that Brian will be held responsible if we're ever caught sharing premium info, but I really think the consequences will be a lot lighter than you think.
if it really does risk brian's cred and the boards..then i will stop
#1 OSU even dropped Devoe - rumblings of off the field shenanigans.
2 Have you seen Britt v. Feagin - I'm casting my lot with Feagin 8 days a week.
Britt would be a nice project if Pryor spurns us though.
Toledo man, don't take stuff from Scout premium board. People pay that stuff to get insider access from Tom Beaver. You're paying it and giving it out for free. not cool.
how many stars is McCalebb??
penn state is where recruits go to die
people in the world are giant pussies.
It would make me day if Pryor went to PSU. That would mean that he is without question the most indecisive kid in history, not to mention foolish.
BTW, OBAMA JUST RAPED HILLARY IN MISSOURI. He came back to take the lead with 98% of precints reporting
"penn state is where recruits go to die"
Tell that to Derrick Williams and Anthony Morrelli!
Oh, nevermind.
it would just suck for brian man. he's really blowin up right now and gets a lot of viewers and a lot of cred. lets not blow it for the guy by copy/past. PARAPHRASE. that's totally legit
Henne for Heisman, Devoe Torrence is being charged for raping a 11 year old girl.
penn state is where recruits go to die
Orlando Go Blue | 02.06.08 - 12:21 am | #
Quotin Dis.
for the record. i have never posted premium stuff on this board. oh wait - i dont have premium stuff to post. i though about paying for premium stuff before but decided i wanted dinner instead.
what about justin king JHS?
Oh damn, DeVoe should rot in prison then.
Justin King had a pretty solid career at PSU, they have had solid defenders - it is the offensive recruits that go there and do nothing.
Devoe is charged for satutory(sp.?) rape
does that mean that devoe is going to msu, then?
or miami
I guess it means Torrence is committing to the Oakland Raiders
err... wait...
Guess we might have to wait on Pryor. Don't know what it means.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/...s/
s_551013.html
the eric knott thing still bothers me.
in the chat room thing on scout a guy said he emailed brian about people posting premium info and brian said he is trying to hire moderators to stop it from happening..
Pryor delaying means nothing but good for UM
That was so 1 hour ago Blue, learn to spam the refresh button on recruiting sites all night.
seems like his pops is pushing for psu.
SI.COM is reporting that Pryor will 100% NOT commit tomorrow on signing day and will instead visit penn state.
STOP IT, WE KNOW!
i wonder if TP will announce today?
Here's an interesting excerpt from the article BlueNCase Posted:
"When we talked (Tuesday morning), I gave him my choice and he gave me his," said Pryor's father, Craig. "They weren't the same. But it's his decision."
Craig Pryor said he did not pick Ohio State, but he did not indicate what school his son chose.
Craig Pryor also told his son that playing immediately might not be the best way to make progress. He said it wouldn't hurt if he sat back and watched while he tries to learn to read defenses.
"He's not worried about playing right away," Craig Pryor said. "It will give him time to learn and adjust to the speed of the game."
If TP were yours tomorrow, I might feel better. I smell a lot of smoke, and I'm looking for fire early. Not a good sign for a high school guy. I'm happy with what tOSU has now...we don't need a distraction/head case thank you. Been there, done that. Not good.
Orlando
The school Bush and Smith went to out here is called Helix High School, and yes they were repeat champions.
Didn't M finish second for Bush? Maybe we didn't offer enough money.
Pryor Dad is probably a big Joepa fan.
http://restaurants.clevescene.co...or-the-ax/
print
I think we should probably stay away from Torrence, and when I say probably, I mean definitely
henne - no copy/paste
You might want to get rid of that /print... sorry
From tomorrow's Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:
Jeannette quarterback Terrelle Pryor said late Tuesday night that he changed his mind and is not planning to sign a national letter of intent today (meaning Wednesday).
"I'm 100 percent sure I'm not signing," Pryor said. "It's a tough decision and I'm still trying to decide between Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State."
Pryor did say he has eliminated Oregon and told the Oregon coaches the school was too far from home. Pryor said he'll probably make a visit to Penn State.
Pryor was expected to announce his decision at noon on ESPNU and CSTV, but Jeannette coach Ray Reitz said Pryor still plans to meet with the media to answer a few questions.
It isn't premium info. It's public posting from the Pittsburg newspaper
That article claims that BW3's is Massilon's "most bustling enterprise around" that is not an understatement their BW's is huge. nothing else to do there.
im just kidding
Honestly...if TP is a Prima Donna then he should go to Penn St. And both tOSU and UM shall sack him 10x per game, win by 20 pts. Joe Pa is a helluva guy, but is still 110yrs old.
Goodnight.
Is it Mallett that is a tool or his father? Hard to tell.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
id=3232753
Is it extenuating circumstances that you didn't like a coach. Maybe Alex Mitchell could say that Barwis didn't fit his eating style.
I'm out see you all for signing day.
Here's an interesting excerpt from the article BlueNCase Posted:
"When we talked (Tuesday morning), I gave him my choice and he gave me his," said Pryor's father, Craig. "They weren't the same. But it's his decision."
Craig Pryor said he did not pick Ohio State, but he did not indicate what school his son chose.
Craig Pryor also told his son that playing immediately might not be the best way to make progress. He said it wouldn't hurt if he sat back and watched while he tries to learn to read defenses.
"He's not worried about playing right away," Craig Pryor said. "It will give him time to learn and adjust to the speed of the game."
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Obviously dad picked PSU. At first he makes it sound like pryor picked M with the whole "playing early maybe isn't best" part, but then makes it sound like he is leaning toward OSU with the "he's not worried about playing right away" bit. Ugh, so confusing.
Do what you gotta do, TP. Announcing tomorrow for the sake of announcing, and then reneging on it at a later date wouldn't be a good feeling. Take your time, and figure this all out. I know how tough it is to decide where you want to go to college, as do most of you...but nobody cared about our decision. Pryor has way too many outside influences dogging him right now.
Do it right, TP, and for the love of God - tell me you're joking about Penn State.
Pryor isn't signing today
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/...e/
s_551013.html
pryor this, pryor that. until HE tells me otherwise im still assuming he's going to osu
who's terrelle pryor?
one of the top requirments for a spread QB to be successful is to make quick decisions under pressure. if this kid can't make a college choice decision by the NSD, what's he going to do on the football field? ask the ref for more time while he thinks about it some more? i'm souring on him. . . .
No longer confident they can win a championship with their current roster, the Phoenix Suns have agreed to a blockbuster trade that will bring them Shaquille O'Neal, pending results of a physical, a source with knowledge of the negotiations said Tuesday.
O'Neal will travel to Phoenix aboard a private plane, the source said, to undergo an MRI on his ailing left hip Wednesday. If he passes the physical, the Suns will complete the trade by sending Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks to the Miami Heat.
one of the top requirments for a spread QB to be successful is to make quick decisions under pressure. if this kid can't make a college choice decision by the NSD, what's he going to do on the football field? ask the ref for more time while he thinks about it some more? i'm souring on him. . . .
TorontoBlue | 02.06.08 - 1:01 am |
Huh? Just to let you know, he's one of many, many kids who are still undecided going into the signing day. Here's your jump to the conclusions mat. It has conclusions on it. That you can...jump to.
If the suns trade Marion for washed up Shaq - they are dead to me. What a stupid move that would be, Matrix is in his prime and shaq has no gas in the tank. They are a full court up and down team - how does getting shaq help that? Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.
They are still seething from last year's Spurs series and this is a desperation move. I can't tell you how mad that fan base is (rightly so). They would do anything to revenge and this is "anything".
"he was one of the guys i went to homecomming with...
gsimmons85 | 02.05.08 - 11:15 pm | #"
Haha you're gay gsimms.
Heck, you're Mormon gay!
That's called taking words out of context folks. I should be a journalist!
matrix for shaq is retarded, the suns like to run and shaq cant. he'll just stay back on defense all game
pryor's dad said that his choice and his son's were different and he (pryor's dad) didnt choose ohio state. Since its really between OSU-UM, pops must have pick UM and Pryor picked OSU.
Thats all she wrote folks.....
It seems that Pryor decided between Michigan and Ohio State but his dad asked him to look at Penn State closer. If this is correct, Pryor is stringing along either Michigan or Ohio State. Tomorrow, if he were to do the right thing, he should eliminate one of the two.
Pryor reportedly not ready to commit on Wednesday
Here's my take on the Shaq trade:
http://thestache.blogspot.com/20...e-
retarded.html
As happy as the info on Ohio State's qb sounds, I have to aknowledge the fact that Mr. Bettis may feel compelled to say this since he was born in michigan.
"I'm 100 percent sure I'm not signing," Pryor said, according to the newspaper. "It's a tough decision and I'm still trying to decide between Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State."
Pryor did tell the newspaper that he had eliminated Oregon from his list because it was too far from home.
Chad | 02.06.08 - 3:33 am | #
ESPN.com
Anyone still there? If so, what's the latest on Pryor signing tomorrow? Is it a for sure "no-go" and is Oregon out? Or is that all BS and he is actually going to choose between UM and OSU. I've been following but am in zombie mode right now.
espn article regaring the pitt newspaper report on pryor not signing...
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/r...tory?
id=3233143
'100%' not signing
i agree with toronto blue
QB's need to be clear and decisive, not wishywashy
keegan, remember at teh army game where he had a michigan sweatshirt and a buckey helmet sticker. That's basically where we're still at. Oh, and his dad wants him to go to PSU.
BlueSeoul,
Clear and decisive? No we don't.
Signed,
Brett Favre
LET THE MADNESS BEGIN!!!! AGHHHH HA HA HA HA!
@ TorontoBue...You said.
"one of the top requirments for a spread QB to be successful is to make quick decisions under pressure. if this kid can't make a college choice decision by the NSD, what's he going to do on the football field? ask the ref for more time while he thinks about it some more? i'm souring on him"
IF YOU WERE A WOMAN...I'D KISS YOU!! you summed up the whole damn thing.
The $hit I dont like is he thinks he is doing US...a FAVOR!!! I say Coach RR should make the decision for him...on signing day.
\what's the latest on Pryor signing (today)?//
Mike Farrell (who was always a poor replacement for Wayne Rogers, IMO) from Rivals was just on the radio here and he says Pryor's not signing today. He also says Terrelle himself wants to sign with OSU but his dad wants him to go to Penn State.
Christ, seeing him playing for JoePa would be worth it for the comedy alone.
Did farrell really say fosu or is that just a guess? what happened to the Bett-ttiss--sss story?
Merry Creepy Christmas, everyone!
Well, the good news with TP not signing today is that it is bad news for osu. The many (most?) reports saying he was a lock for osu all along would appear to be off the mark.
It does seem a little nuts that he doesn't have all the info he needs at this point to make up his mind. I would think he would want to get it over with at this point.
That whole Bettis story is a crock. Even if this guy Slobojak did sit next to Bettis and talk recruiting, does anyone with a brain think he wouldn't have some fun at Michigan's expense? Like others have already pointed out, Bettis hates UM.
It's not necessarily bad news for OSU, it just means his dad likes PSU the most, don't know how much sway that has on TP's decision.
The general concensus:
Terrelle Pryor likes OSU
Craig Pryor likes PSU
Everyone else (Mom, Batch, Coach) likes UM
I'm not going to bad mouth him, but I'm pretty much done with this whole ordeal. If I had to guess, UM is now in third in TP's mind. Unless he really takes his time and has a Kenny Demens moment in church, he's probably going to PSU or OSU. If he goes to PSU, it will be the most collosal waste of human talent since Kurt Cobain ate a lead sandwich.
Like i said yesterday - he did sit next to him on the plane - i have the picture if you want to see it - however, when bettis told him that TP was a lock for UM - bettis already knew that bolosak was an OSU fan - they were talking about how OSU looked against LSU - bolosak said it will be different next year when they have TP - that's when Bettis said TP to mich - my guess is he has no idea, just messing with him
Yeah, I'm not really sure what an official visit to Penn State is going to do for the kid. He has said that he has been there many times on unoffical visits and the zombie king himself made an in home visit, so I would have thought he'd be very familiar with the program.
But it's always been said that staying close to his father was a factor in his choice, so Terrelle must be close enough to his father that he's willing to take a closer look at Penn State simply at his urging.
I'm not going to fault a guy for making as many visits as necessary to make an informed decision. After all, this is a huge decision for a kid. I just wish he and his father had had this conversation a month ago, not a day or so before NSD.
Can only hope that the story about RR thinking he has TP locked up is true then.
I would say I am supprised at Coach Rodriguez. The stance he took with thoes who did not show for a team meeting vs. The waiting game he is playing with this TP Kid. Then again...mabe it is totally different. I do wish he would take the Rodraconian approach though...
Pryor is not anouncing today and will take an visit to PSU and possibly Oregon.
Being reported multiple places.
Been reported 9,000 times on this board since last night too.
@ SouthernFriedWolverine...you stated "I'm not going to fault a guy for making as many visits as necessary to make an informed decision. After all, this is a huge decision for a kid. I just wish he and his father had had this conversation a month ago, not a day or so before NSD.
I agree to a point...but lets face it..if the kid is really good, he is going to be good no matter where he lands...There was more than enough time to make an informed decision...unless that is not where his mind was...being overshadowed by all the hoopla.
CWilson to UNC, fyi
How anyone can rip the kid for being non-decisive is beyond me. He is a 17-year old kid thrust into the national spotlight. Also he is torn between two top-tier programs vs. playing at PSU to stay near his father who is very ill. Just because he doesn't sign on THE FIRST DAY POSSIBLE does not mean he is indecisive. If anything it shows he is making a very calculated decision on something that will impact the rest of his life. Give him a break.
Lets say TP is not signing today...If we are waiting for him...this could get ugly...and quick. Other players may be waiting to see what he does...even though they say they aren't.
Are we "holding" a spot for this kid vs. going after other QB's.
Another thing...what does "meh" mean...kinda new to this.
It sounds like his Dad wants PSU and he wants OSU. While it would have been nice to have this figured out by now, it sounds like Joe Pa's in home visit this weekend really blew the Dad away and made at least some impression on Terrelle, creating the hesitation.
It is very common for parents and their child to disagree on what school they should attend. This same thing happened with Vidal Hazelton a few years ago. He wanted to go to USC. His Dad wanted PSU (I think). His Dad threatened to not sign a LOI (requires a parent/guardian signature) to USC and the decision dragged on past signing day. Finally, he ended up at USC. Hopefully nothing that acrimonious happens here.
Selfishly, I hope at the very least TP tells RR he's not interested in UM if he really isn't.
meh = spectacularly average, mediocre, invoking neither excitement nor anger.
Give TP a break?...are you kidding me?..If you cant stand the heat...stay away from the grill! If this is what you worked for and wanted...deal with it like a man.
Thaks DanK
meh
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/
...ia.broadcasting
Any word on if Bass is playing this year?
Screw TP... I need to stay updated on NP.
I don't think the batch thing was legit, I think it was just an easy way for charlie to visit his school/friends at emu, he didn't go with pryor on any other visits and really hasn't done anything for him except sit next to him out one of our basketball games. I think pryor has been fosu all along and just acting like a primadonna, he's gonna fit in perfectly there. I think I had a dream like this 4 or 5 years ago. some punk kid stringing along u-m to try to hurt our recruiting, what was him name? ted ginn.
Screw pryor, if it really is down to two schools, he should say which two it is. He's just milking it for everything. Completely unethical of him to not be honest with the coaching staffs of 4 major universities.
Pryor isn't signing today, yet he is going to meet with the media. Big surprise.
I would say I am supprised at Coach Rodriguez. The stance he took with thoes who did not show for a team meeting vs. The waiting game he is playing with this TP Kid. Then again...mabe it is totally different. I do wish he would take the Rodraconian approach though...
Knish | 02.06.08 - 8:44 am | #
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RR tried to get in touch with Ryan Mallett several times. He never spoke to Mallett, only to his father. Mallett spoke loud and clear by not showing up at the team meeting. Word is RM did not want to be at Michigan in the first place, only came at the insistence of his parents. (Which is why his "extenuating circumstances" claim not to have to sit out a year is BS.)
I understand TP's indecisiveness, but the gamesmanship, esp. now holding out past today, is unfair to programs that are holding a scholarship open for him. At least we've got Threet and Feagin now, possibly Carlos Brown too.
sorry, 3 major universities and fosu
Wherever TP goes he better be good, because all this "Pay attention to me, 'cause my parents didn't...I want to drag this out as long as I can" stuff is getting old. Come on.
Shaw is supposed to be announcing at 9...
dan you nailed it. divorced parents, you can see it in the way the kid acts. attention whore.
roundtree == blue.
Roundtree to UM (sorry if already posted, haloscan sucks).
I am turning my attention to Perry now...TP can do what he wants, UM-GREAT!, PSU--I feel bad for him, tosu--we're f@#%ed.
I assume Shaw is announcing with Roundtree...any word there?
oh hai guise breaking pryor is not signing today my sources tell me he is 100% not signing i heard this from a guy that used to sell charlie batch opium back in the day while iwas waiting to donate plasma in ypsi he says that tp is just strining mich, psu, and osu alonog and is going to really sign with emu thats why he hangs out with batch so much emu is paying him the big bucks no one else wants to match also i wish this punk kid wood just make a deicions already he fuckin owes me that aftr all the erection filled nights i spend watching his youtube vidz but cmon if he cant pick the college he wants to go to when i want him to how on earth will he ever complete a pass hes probably super overrated give me a nice white boy who makes decisions on my timetable any day over this kid amirite or amirite folks
Still haven't heard on Shaw. Having Roundtree can't hurt...
While I dont have anything against Roundtree, I am getting a little worried about the number of scholarships. I think RR probably knows something we dont about Perry / Pryor (not good).
we got Barnum too
Barnum to UM
whats up people are the scout police here
Feel free to post friend.
We have enough scholarships for Perry and Pryor. Don't worry about that. *IF* Britt gets offered, then the numbers get tight and you can assume no TP.
Shaw to Michigan
This is turning into an incredible day.
Byrum and Roundtree to Michigan!!!!! GO BLUE!!!!!
9AM LOI's in
The kids/their coaches have told us ...
LOIs in at crack of dawn:
Brandon Moore
Roy Roundtree
JB Fitzgerald
Kurt Wermers
Elliott Mealer
Justin Feagin
Dann O'Neill
Kevin Koger
shaw, really????
This is getting unbelievable...who's left? Perry, Pryor, McCalebb (Sam Webb said he thought there was a good chance)? Anyone else with offers?
Sweet, If we get Perry, this will be a great day!
so it's down to mcalleb, perry and the QBs and that's it, right?
I jumped the gun with Shaw; someone posted something on a certain board and it's now removed.
My apologies.
TJ Lawrence too, I believe?
Shaw to UM is on Rivals
bastard...jk
Okay, to confirm
Shaw to Michigan.
SHAW in too! from scout
Honestly- do you think Jerome Bettis would want to "talk football" with this random guy, especially an OSU fan?
Doubtful.
I'm not holding my breath. Pryor signs with OSU and then gets caught with Pot.
thanx
roundtree is 154#s? wow, brother. are we sure he's not signing w/ the soccer team?
Im sorry but I've been hood too long not to recognize game...and this is game.
Some things dont add up. Kid has both parents...but he is living with a guardian...this can only mean a couple of things. 1. parents are crack heads...(I dont think this is the case). 2. "Guardian" lives in a better school district than his parents...less competiton...this kid shines. I am not saying that he is not good..I am just saying that there may be more than meets the eye....and this is all total speculation.
He's going to be a hell of a fast kicker.
damn i gotta say RR recruited his ass off for only 1 month
Scout has Roundtree at 6-1.5 186 lbs.
apparently all the recruits have been raving about Barwis
Getting Barnum (from UF) and Shaw (from PSU) is pretty impressive.
is Barnum confirmed blue? radio said still waiting on him
where the hell are the people who were panicking about rr's recruiting abilities two weeks ago eh eh eh?
Britt to Jackson St.
I'm sorry to say I don't know who Shaw is. Someone care to educate the less smarterer?
There was a mention of TJ Lawrence on here, whats the deal?
I think the guardian is a school district thing.
Barnum has sent in his LOI to the staff.
Here is what is incredibly encouraging:
Our O-Line class went from a major question mark to very solid;
Our LB class is outstanding;
We have running backs coming out of our collective wazoo;
Ditto receivers.
RR has done a hell of a job, and if he gets Perry, I will be ecstatic about this class. Our collective wazoo is blessed with a lot of fast, shifty, athletic talent this year.
4 star rb from florida, was a PSU verbal
At BlueSeoul...I have seen it time and time again
For those of us who just got to work and can't watch TV, can we get a short list of who has committed to UM today?
I'm surprised Brian hasn't commented on Pryor's postponement.
Even though I've defended Pryor multiple times, Pryor's waffling is getting a little silly. Unless he's seriously considering Penn State, I don't see the logic in taking such a late visit there. If he wanted to visit PSU to satisfy his dad, he probably should have done that awhile ago.
While I'm not going to trash Pryor for the postponement, this does leave me scratching my head and wondering what the hell is going on with him. At some point in time, he does need to decide, and I don't see the benefit of putting this off just to see State College PA.
mike barwis, all your recruits are belong to him. mike barwis.
shaw == more highly ranked recruit than mcguffie.
he was committed to psu as a RB, but is coming in as a slot fro UM
Thanks to all. Any word on McGuffie yet, then ?
@dex - Pryor is going to OSU. I read that in a fortune cookie in a dream I had in Texas.
McGuffie's solid with UM.
Roundtree is huge, I think he could be another arrington or manningham. That is a big coup for UM out of ohio.
Sporting News reporting Pryor 100% not signing today.
hahahahaha jenkins commited to wvu suckeyes thought he was a lock
cfaller96, cosign that. i'm not big on trashing guys who take their time deciding .... but shouldn't daddy have had this convo a while ago wrt psu? it's almost as if they woke up a week ago and were like.. 'huh? we're being recruitied to M, osu, *and* psu? i had no idea... we should probably think about this, terrelle.'
So...if Omameh was #21, Roundtree #22, Shaw, #23, Barnum #24
...
Perry? QB? WTF?
(Not that I'm complaining...glorious morning and all).
Jenkins brother was hired as a GA at WVU
I think the Joe Pa visit this weekend changed things significantly. All reports indicate it went very well. I don't know why.
Jivas, I asked the same question, but one thing to note is that Stonum is counted as part of the 24, but his scholarship counts towards last year. People also mentioned Morales could be asked to Grey-shirt, but I think that could've just been speculation.
All LOIs SENT IN - 9:30
9AM LOI's in
The kids/their coaches have told us ...
LOIs in at crack of dawn - through 9AM
Brandon Moore
Roy Roundtree
JB Fitzgerald
Kurt Wermers
Elliott Mealer
Justin Feagin
Dann O'Neill
Kevin Koger
Add as of 9:20
Michael Shaw
Ricky Barnum
If they need him to, long snapper extraordinaire George Morales will grey shirt, opening up another scholarship.
ahhh, nothing like playing starcraft, having some 17 year old whisky and watching the LOIs roll in from 17 year olds.
Don't think Omameh is a done deal yet.
I say take the scholly away from morales he's a snapper walk-on. We've never offered scholies to LS' and why start now. Plus it was a scholly given out by LC and CO and there ST was stellar...
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With Omameh being #21 as of last night
and Morales-waiting-now (figuring him as a greyshirt now) - down to 20
Roundtree 21
Barnum - 22
Shaw 23
for the remaining 3: held for:
- Perry
- Pryor
- McCalebb?
... for now ... maybe Britt gets offered eventually, or maybe Morales gets his schollie right away.
And ... The Lawrence Camp says it's not over for U-M, altho A2 Camp is pessimistic ...
I would rather see TJ instead of McCalebbb!
Byrum, Shaw, Roundtree...
It looks like RR and his staff deserve a great deal of credit. They've worked their tails off and it's beginning to look like they can close - regardless of the TP outcome.
LC and his staff also deserve credit for holding the foundation of this class in place during the transition period.
Test 1: Recruiting. I think we're in B+/A- category already, with a chance to go higher. Kudos all around.
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