am i first?
hmm, i think i am..that's what i get for staying up till almost 3 in the morning and there's a random middle of the night blog posted and probably nobody else has even seen it yet!
damn it, third.
and good luck, brian.
"I know you didn't read the Zone Stretch article from yesterday, so go back and read that."
Not likely. I know the intent was to make everyone go out and buy the new book but it just made me nostalgic for the days when I could blame my marital problems and drinking on Mike DeBord.
good luck, man. looking forward to seeing the new site.
I believe this qualifies as a previously funny "X is like Y" post.
http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/2005...south-
park.html
"...something I thought impossible: writing a surprising "X is like Y" post."
I can't wait to register all the regulars' IDs.
I got really drunk last night and things turned wierd. There is a dude in my bed and my butt hurts.
Yet more epic fail from the Freep.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...010/1048/
SPORTS
I like how they refer to one of O$Us recruits as "underappreciated".
Apparently he's going to get less of a cut of the promised BCS money.
No news on Sparty's epic class of commits.....wonder why?
Yes, whatever will we do if our precious internet names are taken by a guy who has to use the name of someone else (with one word changed) to make sure people read his half-assed witty remarks. I'll be devastated! DEVASTATED!
I wouldn't want players that are lining up blow Diapers Pryor on Michigan's bench anyway.
Only 3rd in the Director's Cup??
All the trolls are validated: we suck.
Ladies and gentleman, we have secured the narcoleptic. Coming next season the Palace, cots on the baseline. Is it a bad thing when ESPN can find highlights of nearly every player in draft, but not the one you just drafted?
I'm not going to lose my mind about this, because it will be a few years before anyone knows if this is a good draft. I will simply say that the Pistons could have had DeMarcus Granger and Bill Walker, which would have constituted a very successful draft in my opinion.
Chris Douglas Roberts! But only because I wanted to say his name.
Why do I type DeMarcus Granger when I mean DeAndre Jordan?
New Site? What? Fill me in.
I believe MGoBlog is moving to a new hosting service called Drupal.
MGoBlue, EDSBS, and BGS are merging to form Every Day is Blue and Grey Blog, Inc.
MGoBlog, MGoBlog, dammit.
I agree, there’s no reason to even start thinking about any of the Pistons draft picks right now. Though I hear Sharpe is unconscious from beyond the arc.
BTW, Bill Walker is such a throwback name. He might consider changing it to Billius or Billtrop for the NBA.
I dunno - the NBA draft isn't like the NFL or MLB drafts - picks generally pay some sort of dividend pretty damn quickly. There are some late bloomers (normally high schoolers, a guy like Joe Johnson) but when you look at the stars of today's NBA, they were generally pretty productive in their first seasons. I mean, we're pretty sure now that Stuckey is a starting caliber PG, and that Maxiell deserves to be in a quality rotation.
But guys like Amir and Samb have taken a few seasons, and I'm not ready to count either of them out yet as contributors at some point in their NBA careers.
I agree w/ you about guys that are drafted in the lottery. You usually know pretty quickly if they're a player or not. Guys drafted later in the first and into the second sometimes take a bit longer because they're typically Euros or more project type players.
That's the thing. You have to figure Amir and Samb will get a shot before Sharpe or the other two guys - who will reportedly be sent to Europe. So a few years' wait for the new guys given the Pistons' situation seems realistic.
True. I think that when you're taking about lottery picks and second rounders, they're two different animals. Rose/Beasley/Mayo/Love are going to be expected to contribute something this year. If they don't, people will be immediately down on them (see Corey Brewer and Mike Conley). Second rounders are overwhelmingly ticketed for the D-League (like Amir), and seeing their "upside" is generally "decent cog in the rotation", expectations are somewhat different.
OK, less Mike Conley, but definitely Corey Brewer.
And Joakim Noah.
Yes. And Joakim Noah.
Yeah, agreed Chitown. I think the Pistons draft this year fits squarely in the give-them-a-few-seasons category, depending on how Dumars does restructure the team this year.
...depending on how Dumars does restructure the team this year.
dex | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 9:07 am | #
Which as of right now is anyone's guess. Ideas?
Tay, Rip, and Sheed to the Knicks for Starbury.
Chauncey and Evil-Chauncey can be united, to run wild over the NBA.
By the way, has their ever been a more undeserving Team USA pick than Tayshaun?
hello. what website is brian working on. is he changing the adress for MGoBlog?
Talk to me:)
Tayshaun is SOOO underrated. he deserves to be on the US team.
He is changing MgoBlog to a different hosting service. That's all.
Tayshaun is the quintessential "so famous for being under-rated that he's insanely over-rated" dude.
Christian Laettner. He was in college at the time, so that probably doesn't count.
I know what you're saying though. I think Tayshaun is actually more useful in international play and not a horrendous pick. It's just the nature of being able to literally pick from the best of the NBA that makes him stick out. The team could use more shooters, but it's already guard heavy and I can't think of any real good shooters over 6' 7" with other skills that were left off the team.
what is the website that he is changing to? will he tell us?
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Mgoblog.com
Good luck with the move Brian! Are you going to install filters for all the Tigers baseball comments? Please?
OMG I read a two line comment on a subject I don't particularly enjoy let me whine about it for hours now.
If Tiger comments get filtered, I want anything resembling "omg rich rod 3 star tressel owns _____ class of 2010 blah blah blah lloyd sucks" filtered you mongrels.
doesnt a domain name cost money? OMG do u think he'll charge us to be members of his site?
Dear People I've Never Met Before,
I don't like what you're discussing. Please discuss something else that appeals to me specifically. I will make no effort to suggest a topic that interests me and hasn't been hashed over fifteen times already.
Sincerely,
Pay for the site?
hahaha
OK, I now realize that Joe is yanking our proverbial chain.
dude. type in mgoblog.com in your adress bar and click enter. it goes to mgoblog
address bar? huh?
do u really think michigan will change their jerseys?
Comments?
How are we looking with Darius Morris? Is it possible that he will commit this week or next?
I would have liked to seen Joe consider CDR, Bill Walker, etc.
Obviously, he wanted two guys he could play overseas. I know nothing about this Sharpe guy. The precious little I do know is that he's a forward who can handle the ball, which fits into what Joe wants in a small forward.
I'm ok with the Sharpe pick, apparently they spent two days evaluating him. I'll trust them on that; outside of Darko, Dumars has an exceptional record developing players. But I really would have took Walker over Plaisted. My guess, based on comments made by Duymars, is that Walker didn't eant to play overseas and the Pistons were specifically looking for guys who would be willing to do so.
Obviously, it's doubtful that any of these guys become anything more than bottom of the rotation guys.
Also, if you like Minus the Bear, I put a live set up. It's good quality and from 2004, so it has all their good songs. Click on my homepage button if you're interested.
I think Darius commits this weekend. I'm a glass-is-half-full kind of guy though.
I'd say that Dumars has a solid track record of getting value out of 2nd round picks - most of these guys are throw aways, and he's found pieces for his rotation.
Wasn't Walker a potential lottery pick without the knee injury? It's tough to pass up on a dude like that in the second round.
Morris comes to Ann Arbor on Saturday, I think. It would be great if he committed over the weekend, but we'll just have to wait and see. I'm hoping C.J. Harris dropping his plans to visit is a small signal that he knows Morris is likely to commit.
Lots of Top 100 players on campus the past couple weeks, which is encouraging.
I don't know if anyone here ever frequents Deadspin (I generally don't, but I hopped over there when I saw on FJM that Leitch was leaving), but Bill Simmons wrote something on Leitch's farewell that was actually, dare I say, funny.
MGR:
What do you know about Nate Lubick (sp)? He's a top 50 player that's at camp...do we have a shot?
I'm not sure that Walker ever really will be a great NBA guy, even without the knee.
He had a ton of hype coming out of high school and while its still waaaay too early to say that hype was unfounded, he's neither a good shooter nor ballhandler.
He's really strong, though.
Lubick's AAU Team: New England Playaz
All I've read is the free stuff at Rivals/Scout and UMHoops. Seems like he's legitimately interested. He's been at camp for two straight years.
He has a chance to be the best white U-M PF from Massachusetts since Leland Anderson.
I know what you're saying though. I think Tayshaun is actually more useful in international play and not a horrendous pick. It's just the nature of being able to literally pick from the best of the NBA that makes him stick out. The team could use more shooters, but it's already guard heavy and I can't think of any real good shooters over 6' 7" with other skills that were left off the team.
MRG | 06.27.08 - 9:21 am | #
This. Also why I think Allen Iverson is a tremendous All-Star game/International player. He knows when to take over and when to play super amazing point guard. I wish the Pistons had landed AI instead of Billups, they'd have 2 more titles.
MGoBlog is changing their website address?!? OMG!WTF!?!111111111
Good morning everyone...
Pistons would have had AI if Matt Geiger would have waived his trade bonus.
What?
Iverson is a good individual talent, but he's not going to lead any team, ever, to the promised land. He takes too many bad shots and cannot use the pas to spread the floor. yes, he gets to the hoop, but at some point, the point guard needs to be able to control the pace of the game. Iverson can't do that. The best season he was a part of was when the 76ers lost in the Finals to the Lakers, primarily because Larry Brown forced Iverson to slow down the game.
Iverson put up career numbers this year and the Nuggets were awful. I'm not saying that Iverson is selfish, just that he's a high quantity shooter who is too small to play shooting guard, so you get left with a undersized point guard who is a defensive liability.
It's ridiculous to say that with Iverson, the Pistons would have won two more titles. A backcourt of Rip and Iverson would be a nightmare on the defensive end and there's no way that Rip could be productive on the offensive end wih Iverson at the point.
Simmons writing about Leitch yesterday was his bloody sock moment. Or Pedro getting his fastball back for one game. Or Larry Bird playing with a bad back. Or Bruschi returning from a stroke. Pick your tortured Boston sports metaphor.
Point is, it was actually good and again has made me re-evaluate whether Simmons actually sucks or if working for ESPN is so oppressive he's being dragged into a pick of suck beyond his control.
Iverson now probably isn't taking any team to the title, but taking the 76ers to the finals was one hell of an accomplishment.
What's the status of Antonio Bass again?
Does RR know this isn't the Big East?
Mgoblog is getting a new address?
Does Rush Limbaugh really think that college makes women more effeminate?
Sandwich?
An accomplishment that has to be chalked up, in part, to Larry Brown.
The guy is a snake, but he can coach the fuck out of a basketball team. He made Ben Wallace.
Love him or hate him, this makes me want to vomit:
The two cover a variety of subjects, starting with how Dumars was this close to pulling off a trade for Allen Iverson back in the summer of the 2000.How close is this close? Close enough that Dumars had already called Roundball One’s pilot to meet him at the airport in two hours to pick up Iverson. The proposed four-way deal, which would have cost Detroit Jerry Stackhouse and Jerome Williams, fell apart at the last second when Matt Geiger, of all people, refused to re-work a trade kicker for the deal to work within the salary cap.
Iverson for Junkyard Dog and Stack.
Dex:
I think it's espn being oppressive. His stuff has gotten consistently worse. I don't even read it anymore, and I used to check every couple days.
I'm hoping the Pistons can work out some sort of package to move Billups for Brand.
His live blog of the draft is actually OK today. Only one reference to J-Bug or Hench.
Simmons is locked into pandering to Simmons Nation on ESPN, plus the coin's probably not bad. There's no doubt he has talent, hopefully he'll find a new outlet for it.
I like Billups. I'd rather see them look at dealing Sheed/Prince for something.
Plus, Simmons is quantitatively prolific - he's written a lot of words over the years. It's bound to take its toll.
In my opinion, Simmons huge problem is that he covers so much Boston stuff.
It's tough to write for an objective audience when you are very clearly subjectivly passionate about a certain topic. And, as shown by Simmons, it leads to writing ridiculous things like "The fans wopn't let the Celtics lose," or that the pistons got back into the game because "the fans were tired from cheering so much" (uh, paraphase).
Hans is right - I think part of Simmons problem is that he has this enormous readership, and like any enormous group of people, it's made up of 90% idiots, and they want him to talk about 90210, and constantly reference "the levels of losing" or the "unintentional comedy scale". I mean, he has a whole readership that write to him with idiotic stories and ask "can I get a ruling on this?". He's pandering, I think.
I'm down for any trade that involves a legit low post guy. Even Randolph or Curry, depending on what's given up.
If Walter Sharpe is a bust, I'm reserving the nickname "Narco Stoleacheck."
His Boston stuff annoys me, greatly, but even his non-Boston stuff has suffered.
But the deadspin column yesterday shows flashes of his old brilliance, and I have to wonder if like Hans said he isn't pandering to Simmons Nation with those BS lines now. Maybe he kind of buys it, but people expect crowd analysis and 90210 analogies from him, so maybe that is what he provides?
Honestly, I'd love to see him be the new Deadspin editor but there is no way he's taking that pay cut.
Chitown, I like Billups too, but Stuckey is ready to experience the growing pains of being a full-time PG. The Pistons need a legit big man downlow, because Rasheed Wallace is the world's biggest guard.
Uh, what chitown said.
Upside to Sharpe? Very athletic, 6'9, 245 lbs.
That's the type of body you need to guard Lebron, the future Nets hall of famer.
Ever since I was a young boy,
I've watched college F ball.
From South Bend to Columbus
I must have watched them all.
But I ain't seen nothing like him
At campuses in fall...
That Rich Rod in Ann Arbor
Sure plays a mean football !
He stands like a statue,
Becomes part of the machine.
Feeding all the boosters
Says he’s playing clean.
Recruits by intuition,
The 5 stars start to fall.
That Rich Rod in Ann Arbor
Sure plays a mean football !
He's a snake oil wizard
There has got to be a twist.
A snake oil wizard,
S'got West Virginia pissed
'How do you think he does it? I don't know!
What makes him so good?'
He ain't got no distractions
Cuz there are no ethics or codes,
Don't see lights a flashin'
4 Mill’$ a mother load.
He’ll never have to repay,
The money’s in his stall...
That Rich Rod in Ann Arbor
Sure plays a mean football !
I thought Huggins
(was )The sleazeball king.
But He just handed
His wizard’s hat to him.
But at the signing table
He can’t beat The Vest.
His disciples lead him in
And sleaze just does the rest.
He's got dirty little fingers
Never seen him fall...
That Rich Rod in Ann Arbor
Sure plays a mean football !
57: Over/Under number of emails Brian gets in reguards to "new" website, why he's abandoning mgoblog, or bitching about new site design...
The most appropriately titled picture ever:
Me Want Candy Now
Yeah, Stuckey is the future. BUT, I'm probably less of a fan of Sheed than most people (I love his insanity, I just hate watching him jack three's all night in big games), and I think that Prince is maybe 1/2 as good as people think he is. If you could exchange those two for a legit low-post scorer, I think the Pistons can still contend next year with Billups at PG.
how much do you think deadspin's editor gets paid?
here's a video on that Plaisted dude from BYU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P...h?
v=Pv5dgaklqug
I'm going to guess the 2% of readership (guessing about 6000) so somewhere around 120 emails as my over/under
Drupal is an open source content management system. That is, it doesn't cost money. Lots of sites use it. It should give him a lot more flexibility than Blogspot. He already has the mgoblog.com domain, so no additional costs.
That being said, buy his book anyway!
Oh, there's no doubt the Pistons can contend with Billups. I like him, a lot. I think the talk of him being the root of the "complacency" is BS. It starts and ends with Rasheed. If he has a big game, they win. That's all there is to it. Rasheed shows up when he wants to. I love Rasheed, he's one of my favorite NBA players of all time. But there has to be a point when you cut your losses.
I could part with Prince. He's a good player, but he's an offensive liability when he can't hit that 18 foot jumper. Teams just leave him open.
However, you can't move both Rasheed and Prince as neither have viable back ups.
I'm going to come clean against my better judgment - for the first 30 minutes of this conversation, I completely missed the fact the Pistons didn't pick DJ White.
That's OK. I called DeAndre Jordan, DeMarcus Granger, who's a DT at Oklahoma. At least I had the conference right.
Well, theoretically, you'd be getting a replacement for Sheed in the trade. How hard is it to find a guy that can play a serviceable small forward in the NBA? I feel like they're a dime a dozen.
Deron Washington video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s...h?
v=sYTg1TIAjZY
The boy has got some athletic ability, that's for sure.
Well, theoretically, you'd be getting a replacement for Sheed in the trade. How hard is it to find a guy that can play a serviceable small forward in the NBA? I feel like they're a dime a dozen.
chitownblue 00 | 06.27.08 - 10:32 am | #
Then why can't the Pistons get a decent back up for Prince?
Because they have around 40 billion power forwards? What do you think they lose by having a starting back court of Billups and Stuckey, and playing Hamilton at the 3? A little defense?
Hey, does anyone have any thoughts about what's the best football conference? I think it's the SEC, because they're so fast. Thoughts?
Yes, I'm in a troublemaking mood today...
Hey, does anyone have any thoughts about what's the best football conference? I think it's the SEC, because they're so fast. Thoughts?
Yes, I'm in a troublemaking mood today...
cfaller96 | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 10:39 am | #
AFC East
I think they lose a lot of flexibility by going to Stuckey/Rip/Billups back court. That lineup will be able to play great perimeter defense but will be a huge liability in the post. How do they match up with athletic PFs who can shoot and post-up? I don't think they do, at all.
Probably the biggest problem would be their ability to rebound the basketball. That's the Piston's biggest problem, currently. So, I guess if they can get a true big man and a rebounding SF, the trade would make sense. But those commodities are premiums in the NBA.
I'd like to see them make a run at Artest, J. Childress, J. Smith, and E. Brand.
Is it just me, or does it sound like the guy singing along to the mariachi band is Jim Brandstatter?
Clearly the MAC is the best conference. They have brought you Randy Moss and Ben Rothchildlessburger.
Worthlessburger.
Artest...that'd be interesting.
AFC South
When was the last time that the Big 10 was legitimately the best football conference in the country? Late 90's?
I'll bite, cfaller. It would be hard to argue against the SEC.
I think you could have made a legit case in 2006 until UM and OSU took up residence behind the woodshed during bowl season
Count me as a HUGE Josh Smith fan. I don't see the Hawks dealing him, though.
He's an RFA and doesn't get along with Woodson, who was just re-signed.
I can see Joe going after him because he's obviously got a fetish for athleticism.
2006, though, every team not named OSU or Michigan was terrible, Dex.
The NBA is such a bore. All I learned yesterday was that Portland knows what it's doing and nobody else does.
2006, though, every team not named OSU or Michigan was terrible, Dex.
big gay heart | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 10:50 am | #
Wasn't Wisconsin 12-1 on the season?
Daniel, you're right. And they won a New Year's day bowl. So, Wisconsin was good. But still, the OSU and U-M perrformances in bowl games were embarrassing.
The SEC is undoubtedly the best conference in America. The combination of complete, utter ignorance of academics from grade 4-on to the year-round commitment to training and playing foobawhl puts them slightly above the Pac 10, Big Ten, Big 12, ACC. In that order.
Yes, I was including Wisky in there - if UM and OSU had won, you'd have two one loss and one undefeated which is pretty f'n solid.
But they didn't, and were all most likely products of a soft conference. So yeah, reality sucks.
Also, as I'm still tabbing through Deadspin's guest posts from yesterday, Orson's Zook post was one of the funniest things to grace these interwebs.
Wisconsin's 12-1 season is a good example of how fluffy the Big Ten has been.
Outside of Michigan(who raped them), and their SEC bowl opponent...who did they play? The bottom two-third of the Big Ten simply blows ass. I think that's changing, though, with the insane recruiting gusto of guys like Brewster and Zook.
Detroit Bad Boys tossed out the following interesting hypothetical deals for Detroit a few days ago:
Sign JR Smith
Trade Sheed for Marion
Sign Andris Biedrins
Sign Trevor Ariza
Tay for Josh Howard
None sound very realistic, but interesting nonetheless.
The B10 has a lot of really good coaches building programs, however. I think in a couple years, it may be the strongest conference in America.
Wisky played Arkansas, who was quite over rated. They obviously were a decently good team, though.
The B10 has a lot of really good coaches building programs, however. I think in a couple years, it may be the strongest conference in America.
big gay heart | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 10:56 am | #
Strongest, or most powerful and fastest?
BGH,
You dare dis Big Ben?
What are you, a Clown fan or something?!?!?!
haha, best, I guess?
There should be a world's strongest man-type competition for CFB conferences. I'd love to see Terrance Taylor lifting giant balls made of granite.
Big Bed was/is terrible.
haha, best, I guess?
There should be a world's strongest man-type competition for CFB conferences. I'd love to see Terrance Taylor lifting Alex Mitchell off the ground.
big gay heart | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:00 am | #
Fixed.
If you play "Snake Oil Wizard" backwards, you can hear Joe Tiller saying, "I neeeed myyyy innn-ssuulll-innn"
Big Gay Heart,
That was me above calling you out for calling out Big Ben.....not sure why it came up anonymous.
Anyway, I have my eye on you now!!! There's a decent size Steeler contigent on this board, so watch your back....lol
In college, one could see Big Ben rolling around campus in a Foot-Locker Big T or a velour suit.
His draft coach was Warren Moon. Rumor has it, they got a corner table in Oxford's "african-american bar" and hollered at bitties together.
And, FTR, I'm NOT down with the Clown.
BGH,
Did they beat up those bitties, as well? I hear thats how Moon likes to roll every now and then.
Warren Moon only beats the women he's married to.
Hey I read somewhere that during the final Browns-Steelers game before Art Modell moved the Browns to Baltimore, Steelers fans felt bad so they "baptized" Browns fans with beer as honorary Steelers fans. Kind of funny.
big gay heart, I want you to lick my student's pussy.
Big Ben: Great QB or Greatest QB?
Personally, I like the EsssEeeeeSeee conference, but it took a step back when Dah Orgeron was fired. God, I loved that idiot...
big gay heart, I want you to lick my student's pussy.
Ninja Football | 06.27.08 - 11:06 am | #
Did you just confuse me with Charles Oakley?
FOOTBAW
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shrek.jpg
FOOTBAW FOOH-BAWWWWW
dex | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
Fixed.
FOOTBAW FOOH-BAWWWWW
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Fixed.
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fixed.
dadgum FOOTBAW FOOH-BAWWWWW
dex | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
Fixed.
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fixed.
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fixed.
dadgum FOOTBAW FOOH-BAWWWWW
dex | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
Fixed.
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fixed.
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fixed.
big gay heart | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:14 am | #
seriously fixed.
dadgum FOOTBAW FOOH-BAWWWWW
loser1 | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 11:09 am | #
Fixed.
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fixed.
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seriously fixed.
king of the losers| 06.27.08 - 11:15 am | #
Oh jesus BGH, you've brought me out of hiding:
Which one qualifies as Oxford's "african- american bar?" And what's the criteria for this? Having a black guy from Northwestern who's only slightly less thuggish than Carlton from the Fresh Prince come hang with his Phi Psi buddies for a weekend like two years ago? And somebody has grainy visual evidence in the form of a camera phone pic that it actually happened? Or the bar where all the sorostitutes go when they get hammered and dance to hip-hop like they're complete whores only to be stricken with dead-fish syndrome later that night? Or 54 East or whatever the fuck Will named it- where he likes to pretend he's not stuck in the middle of acres upon acres of farmland but yet utterly cosmopolitan?
(Just kidding. the obvious answer is Circle Bar.)
....and THAT^^^^^^^was my first real me post of the day.
I hadn't even posted yet and I'm getting handlejacked?- I'm moving up in the world!
damn it Ninja. I thought you would be smart enough to not equate being handle jacked with moving up in the world.
ahah. It's 45 East. I worked there for a summer, it's an alright place. They renamed the place acrioss the street "Brick Street." Horrible place.
During my time, the African American bar of choice was Pachinkos. I think they turned into a greek (like, Kosta Koufus greek) bar.
Keegan,
I forgot the sarcasm tag.
So what- your homeless chick has a laptop in her refrigerator box?
That's not the real Keegan. He left in a huff!
BGH:
Yeah, I've only been there a few times but the bar seemed ok. Will and I just have this understanding: He doesn't really like me, and I think he should be sodomized by rabid orangutans on LSD.
Dude man always struck me as comical, rolling around town in a bright yellow Hummer, looking all jewish and shit.
I used to cook broccoli for him. He'd come in and just be like, cook me some broccoli. And I would.
Hey what's with Rivals' recruiting update?
Did you ever meet his dad? I can honestly say I've never met a more miserable person on this planet.
Nope, they weren't around much.
It's funny how you can think of yourself as a super serious hotshot when you've made your fortune by selling underage coeds gin and tonics.
Mindprobes, anyone? Do they still make those? I used to make those like a dozen at a time.
Yeah, they still make those stupid things.
It's just alchohol poisioning waiting to happen. Specifically aimed, of course, at the slutty demographic
You guys better cool it or the comment police are gonna come and bitch about all the Miami talk going on
Naw, they'll read this article and know just what they're talking about and want to go visit:
http://media.www.miamistudent.ne...t-
2340890.shtml
lol, sorry.
Is Utah actually a decent team? Or are we just saying potential upset because they are from a mid-major and the first game of the season?
They were 9-4 last year with a 5-3 record in the WAC. Looks like they return the following skill players:
Rushing: Darrell Mack, RB, 1,204 yards
Passing: Brian Johnson, QB, 1,847 yards
Receiving: Bradon Godfrey, WR, 524 yards
Tackles: Stevenson Sylvester, LB, 86
Sacks: Paul Kruger, DE, 3; Stevenson Sylvester, LB, 3; Mike Wright, LB, 3
Interceptions: Sean Smith, CB, 4
Looks liek they will be good defensively - they were 11th last year in the NCAA against the pass and # 1 in pass defense efficiency. Last year, they gave up 184 yards in the air per game and are returning what looks like most of their starters.
Looks like some bush-league sports site called Sportable has them ranked #22 going into the season. Phil Steele has them at #23.
Ha! Mcullough-Hyde Hospital, more affectionately known as "Kill 'Em and Hide 'Em".
McCullough Hyde hospital has sent me to collections 4 times.
Someone asked about the recruiting update on Rivals:
1. WR Rantavious Wooten (Florida) is planning on coming to visit Michigan this summer. The rest is boring.
2. **** CB Brandon McGee is likely not coming. But, it looks like he's probably not going to OSU either due to the fact they've signed some strong CB's already. The same can be said of this team mate S Vladimi Emilien.
3.**** DE Craig Roh is visiting campus as I type this.
What does everyone thing the highest point total Michigan will put up this year? Conversly, what will the lowest be? Goose egg? Who do you think these will be against?
Same goes for defensive side. Highest & lowest given up.
Highest: 45 against one of the MAC teams or Northwestern.
Lowest: 14.
I think people are underestimating the fact that even if this offense is bad (and I think it will be), the coaching staff is going to call a lot of home run type plays. So, while I'm sure we'll see a lot of 3 and outs, I think we'll see a decent number of long runs for touchdowns.
WELL, I'M BAAACK...
After what seems to have been a very long time, traveling in Asia and Europe, I'm back to the Land of the Free.
One observation from trip to Europe. Watching Euro '08 games in the Austrian/Swiss stadiums, I saw a LOT of rowdy fans. Some of the worst fans you can find; but nobody there - rpeeat nobody - was an ill-mannered as a fO$U suckeye.
More ammunition to hit the suckeyes with. Yes.
I shall soon start posting on my blog again.
Defense:
Highest: 34
Lowest: 10
No real reason for this belief.
Roethlisberger is an elite QB. As bad as the Steelers O-line and play calling was last season, it’s a miracle he dragged them into and nearly won a game in the playoffs. I am unaware of any rational line of argumentation otherwise.
In 2006 and 2007 the Big Ten was terrible and continued to play archaic football. This tended to prop up OSU and UM defenenses (somewhat.) (Note: my theories contain no explanation for the continued bowl successes of Wisconsin and Penn. State.) I believe Tressel’s play calling demonstrated an understanding of the weakness of his defense over the last 2 seasons. DeBord was either completely ignorant of UM’s defensive problems or chose the opposite and mostly wrong counter. I believe that OSU’s defense can be had this season. I think USC will destroy them. Additionally, I think it’s clear Tressel has absolutely no faith in Boeckman. I think RR has a skill set that suits him perfectly to drag the Big Ten, bloodily, into the modern era. Ferentz and Schianno are equally unsuited to do so.
Clearly, I am optimist mostly because I see no reason to be anything else.
When Craig Roh flies from Arizona to Michigan, does he have to buy a seat for his eyebrows?
Rut Roh.
Other Chris, thanks for the link to ridiculous Miami women being arrested and taken to Killem and Hydem for public intox. Good memories, aside from the names—Whitney and Katelyn? I guess McKala had a formal and couldn’t make it? My apologies if you are named or named a child something like this. I’m old and cranky.
When Craig Roh flies from Arizona to Michigan, does he have to buy a seat for his eyebrows?
MRG | 06.27.08 - 12:31 pm | #
MRG ftw. I was trying to come up with a suitable Groucho Marx comment, but it didn't work- if it doesn't just hit me like a lightning bolt it either doesn't come at all or is the suck.
I spent about two minutes trying to work Noel Gallagher in there. No luck.
oh wow craig roh just got served
Thick eyebrows are a luxurious feature on men.
3.**** DE Craig Roh is visiting campus as I type this.
I want Craig Roh just so that a few years from now Brian's UFRs will occasionally include the phrase "Ruh Roh, sack!"
Ruh Roh, sack! Heh heh heh heh. On a similar level of maturity, I like boobs too.
Hey cfaller, don't talk about boobs on this blog.
If Brandon Graham sticks around, U-M could have the greatest set of eyebrowed DEs in college football history.
@BGH
Why, is that Frank guy still running around here? Or did we have a meeting and I just missed it?
I just really think we should limit topics of conversation to the following:
Fuck Lions
SEC Speed
Rita Rodrigiuez Re: White Trash?
5'7 180 Scat Backs: This Isn't the Big East!
RR lusting after 3 Star Recruits
OSU's dominance of Michigan for the next 35 years.
@Ima:
For the record, McKala was busy holding Kaylee's hair back while she dealt with her own Mindprobe issues. Jen was busy refereeing a drunken fight between Jennifer and Jenny about who could be "Jenni (dot the I with a heart)" and secretly had plans to secure the honor for herself. Lauren was pissed off at Kaylee for making out with Zach on the way home, but now that Kaylee's puking Lauren has decided to make the terrific decision of giving Zach a bj in first floor lounge. Mckala will undoubtedly be rewarded for babysitting her friend by returning to a locked room where her roommate is having sex with her hick boyfriend from back home, and when she decides to sleep in the lounge she'll walk in on and interrupt aforementioned bj. Zach will stumble back to his room only to find puke free Kaylee passed out in his bed, where he'll pass out and they'll assume they slept together for the next 4 years but it never really happened. Gotta love thursday nights in Oxford.
Well maybe if McKala wasn't such a slut, none of this would have happened.
Am I the only one that saw the Rich & Rita interview on "From the Heart" last night? [crickets]
It was pretty useless.
Well maybe if McKala wasn't such a slut, none of this would have happened.
big gay heart | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
BGH has just won MGoMiamiDrama. For those of you not familiar with the campus, all the eating disorders were implied.
Oh, ok, then I'll get started:
I'm really worried that RichRod doesn't seem to care about getting 5* recruits. I mean, for crying out loud, we're Michigan! We should be able to get 5* recruits whenever we want, no matter what. Unless RichRod changes his recruiting really soon, we're going to really regret hiring him since he'll never ever beat Tressel and OSU. Oh, and black quarterbacks always have "character issues," thus I'll never like them.
I want my woobie.
(/Old fart who just can't deal with the uncertainty of the future)
I want my wookie? WTF does Chewbacca have to do with this?
imafreak, my children are given names, as my siblings and I were, that will not embarrass the family should they become Supreme Court Justices. No creative spellings, amenable to nicknames, not so ridiculously trendy that everyone will know exactly what moment they were born.
Rich & Rita interview? Totally missed that.
I used to talk to one of the janitors at Miami's biggest Freshamn Residence and he told me that the main floor waste bins were so full of vomit that he couldn't life them out of the [industrial] sized waste can. Instead, he had to dumop them so that they wouldn't burst.
I want my wookie? WTF does Chewbacca have to do with this?
Ninja Football | 06.27.08 - 1:09 pm | #
By wookie, he means Bud, the burly truck driver he met at a rest stop just north of lexington on 1-75
Human interest piece on local ABC affiliate. I knew I was in trouble when the co-hosts were wearing matching outfits featuring the guy in a denim vest.
References:
Rhett Rodriguez future U-M QB? Check.
Rita Rodriguez had a 'Vette? Check.
Coal miner's son? Check.
Remedial description of spread offense? Check.
Rich saying he didn't "come in through the back door" when wooing Rita and me chuckling? Check.
So........Miami = the CW version of Sparty. Better looking and with more money, better school, but generally Sparty.
The few times I visited Oxford to see BGH I tend to believe that the women, at least in general, were not made of the same bovine body dimensions as the ones at SPARTY NOOO!!
As I type this I look over at my girlfriend wearing a pink MSU t-shirt and cringe a little.
Lol silly Musket: Miami is the CW version of Sparty. Poor or fat people don't exist in Oxford. Or at least not as students.
By the way, has their ever been a more undeserving Team USA pick than Tayshaun?
Yep - Stockton over Zeke in '92 was worse.
You're right. Excuse my failure. Although poor or fat girls exist at UM, but only in the lesbian dorms or in the basements of the sororities.
Imagine my culture shock having spent 2& 1/2 years in Ann Arbor studying Engineering, then to move to Oxford. It was a wee bit of an adjustment.
@JHS:
That's the reason I hate Jordan to this day.
@Big Gay
outside of Darko, Dumars has an exceptional record developing players.
Don't forget about Mateen. That was an awful pick.
The buzz on why the Pistons didn't take walker was that he wouldn't play over seas and the other guys would - so you have the right idea.
Btw, regarding Miami, if you've never been there and don't get the joke I'm mocking the student body in general. In reality I'm only half the tremendous prick I'm coming across as.
Michigan will be fine this season if they get some cosistency from the offense. I think they will win a lot of games. But then again, it's early and we haven't seen anyone play yet so I don't want to predict anything. But they will win if they have cosistency. A lot of people say they can't beat Ohio State, but there aren't any great teams anymore so they can beat them. But it's too early to tell. If they get Sheffield into the backfield, they'll be very cosistent.
oxford was the biggest letdown of the colleges i wen't on road trips to. yeah, there were a lot of hotties running around but i gotta say, i was dissapointed with them. they didn't seem to party too hard and they absolutely hated us, a bunch of kids from michigan. miami oh seemed like a super preppy extension of ohio state (try to make sense of that) with everyone having undeserving superiority complexes.
Answering an old question upthread:
Hi/lo on the offense: 41/13. RichRod will run it up on somebody, but in some road game the offense will sputter and pretty much do nothing right.
Hi/lo on the defense: 34/0. I get good vibes about this D, but again, there will be a road game where the offense will put the D in too many impossible situations.
I'm braced for Michigan to go 7-0 or 6-1 at home, and 1-4 on the road.
Miami is full of whores with Viva Bush and Ann Coulter stickers on the back of their Range Rover trucks. Fact.
Yo baby! I'll tell you this. The Pistons really BLEW IT with this Sharpe kid. What are you doin' when a guy like Drew Neitzel's still on the board? They don't get much better than a PTPer that's a true leader and a proven COLLEGE WINNER. He's Izzo tough and READY TO GO from day one in the NBA.
i hate to admit it, but of the roadtrips making that 45 min drive north to east lansing provided some of the greatest entertainment. yes, it can't really be considered a roadtrip, but for visiting-other-schools-purposes, it can slide. 'The Circus' is fucking wild, the combination of sheer stupidity, trashiness, and lack of knowledge of how copious amounts of recreational drugs can do to your body after 12 straight hours really made nights up to EL fun. except, i've never been to a place where upon waking up the following morning i immediately get my shit and leave.
Dicky V, you didn't say 'BABY!' once. anyway, i'm trying to change the subject to absurd roadtrips... anyone..anyone..
fuck i'm an idiot
beantownblue = Fail
yeah i really shit the bed on that one
speaking of shitting the bed, has anyone here actually done that? germans need not comment.
...except, i've never been to a place where upon waking up the following morning i immediately get my shit and leave.
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If there's a better description for Spartyville I have yet to hear it.
Regarding Miami: It's a grand collection of people with low self esteem who pretend to have high self esteem. Thus the cold shoulder during roadtrips. Eventually my friends just quit coming down b/c they never had a good time.
ninja--i've never heard of anyone being described as having low self esteem who pretend to have high self esteem. not sure why, maybe after hearing that half my high school comes to mind, but i find that a hilarious description of someone.
i regrettably have never been to Madison but i hear wisco is awesome. not sure if any of you ever made it down to Bloomington, but IU is fucking insane. great place. not nearly as trashy as state with a bunch of hotties who didn't need to cake on their faces (i.e. EL).
Michigan State parties lack cosistency. There are no great parties anymore though, so it's understandable. What Michigan State parties need is someone who knows how to party. I'm not talking about people who put up good party numbers or Moneyball parties, where computers decide the party. I mean gritty, veteran partiers that know how to party. Gary Sheffield comes to mind. I haven't been to Michigan State, so I don't want to comment too much,though. If they get some cosistency in the beer department they will be a good party place. It's too early to really say.
BGH:
I have a story for you about a Cincinnati television reporter and shitting the bed. It will never grace the internet out of respect for her and the gentleman involved, but if by chance we meet face to face some day I'll tell you, and you will howl with laughter, horror and glee.
Joe Morgan has made this comments section an epic win today.
I dare say in my best Joe impression: It seems that Mike Hart and Chad Henne are no longer at Michigan.
Dex = Fremp?
And I though Mateen was a Kings draft pick?
a couple of my buddies freshmen year lived with a girl that they went to high school with(first off, huge mistake. i never understood why you would want to live with a girl if you weren't married to her, and even then its a stretch. but in college, C'MON you're a moron)
Anyway, she got stupid drunk one night, started screaming at all her roommates incoherently about events that never took place (surprise surpise i know) but things took a turn for the worse for her later in the night, and especially her roommates. they woke up to find shit smeared in the their hallway, with footprints leading to her room. WOW. out of respect for her, like that cinci TV reporter, nobody ever spoke of it again. that is, until she acted like a super bitch and told a few people when they were drunk.
Mateen and Rodney White were amongst Dumars drafting errors.
*her roommates told a few people when they were drunk
I thought Rodney White was a fantastic steal with incredible upside. He improved steadily each and every year in college(he played one year, Jay - says the guy off camera))....each and every week and consistently tried to improve his game. He's got a midrange and outside game. Best of all, Rodney has a....Oh God...
Oh God....
Oh yeeeessss....
YES!!! YESSSSS!!!!!
A 7'3" WINGSPAN OHHHHHHHH BABY!!! YEAAAAAAAAAHH!
(/best Jay Bilas impression. Anyone notice how fucking cookie-cutter his analysis was of every single player last night? Jesus)
I know this goes against the traditional thinking, and even I was very surprised to find it out, but when a football team gets the ball inside the opponents five yard line to start a possession, they are much more likely to score than if they start in their own territory. The thing is, if the Michigan Badgers can get Stan Threat the ball in the redzone to start their drives, they will win football games. My key to the season for Michigan is to score more points than the other teams and I think they can do it.
I dont know who that impostor is above me. My name is McCarver.
I am not defending Joe Morgan—the announcer. I just think there might be a kernel of rationality behind his otherwise unfortunate raving. Bill James invented a pseudo stat ranking what he called ‘numbers players’ or something that looked at players who did the little things which were not necessarily based on athletic talent but more smart play. These could erroneously termed in intangibles or players that excel at this called gritty, Ecksteinian—whatever. Anyway, I think things like base stealing percentage and not grounding into double plays were factored into this ranking. Joe Morgan ranked as the highest player in history in this made up ranking. So, in addition to being absurdly talented he was disciplined, consistent (had to!) and smart enough to do the little (non athletic) things that helped his team win championships. This might be what he’s rambling about. Not a sermon just a thought.
An accomplishment that has to be chalked up, in part, to Larry Brown.
The guy is a snake, but he can coach the fuck out of a basketball team. He made Ben Wallace.
Brown's a great coach, but he didn't make Ben Wallace. Ben won Defensive Player of the Year both years under Rick Carlisle.
If your argument is that Joe Morgan was an excellent baseball player, only an idiot would debate that. Also, yes, not hitting into double-plays and stealing a base has value. I think the main thrust is that stealing a base does not have as much value as most think, and you have to be extremely successful at it for any real, positive net impact.
Dumars has made errors, but he's also pulled off soem great steals.
Maxiell, Stuckey, Prince, and Johnson all are currently/on track to become bonified NBA players and all were non-lottery selections.
Dumars takes chances on upside and when doing that, you're going to make some mistakes.
After thinking about it, I don't mind this Sharpe pick. Tons of upside, very athletic, big body guy who can play in the post and spread the floor with his jump shot. Defensively, he's the sort of athlete that you need to guard Lebron.
To pick CDR would have been problematic. First, he's a 2 guard, the one position the Pistons are most solid at. Yes, he can play 3 in college but not on the pro level. Second, he's not a great all-around athlete. That's one consistency with Dumars' startegy: athleticism is paramount.
I'm not saying that Sharpe will pan out and CDR/Bill Walker won't. I am saying that Dumars has been consistent with his philosphy and the only time he deviated from that philosphy was with Darko. Sustain success, as we all know, requires developing a plan and sticking to it, even if it looks questionable in its immediacy.
I bet Bill Walker's going to suck in the NBA. Most NBA GMs clearly agree. When an "obvious" guy is still available late in the second round, he's got issues. And seriously, any Piston fan bitching about whom the team didn't draft in the SECOND ROUND is going overboard. In any given year, probably 25-27 of the 30 second-round picks will never make an impact in the league. There's a reason the league doesn't give those guys guaranteed money.
I guess 14 is a lottery pick, so whatever.
Joe Morgan, in a great twist, is always a highly rated player by the same statistics he hates.
The issue I have with him isn't that he's completely wrong all the time, it's that he completely and totally discounts any form of analysis or thought that wasn't around when he played or offered by someone who didn't play at the Major League level.
I know yesterday I was making fun of people talking about S&C who have never participated in it in their lives, but I think that's a little different than completely discounting the opinion of someone because they weren't a part of the .0000001% of the population who makes it to the Majors, ya know?
Joe Morgan always sounds like he's high.
When Morgan is talking about the physical act of playing baseball (swing technique, fielding technique, whatever) I assume he's probably really sharp (I never played enough organized baseball to say). It's when he gets into the shit Dex mentions that I get angry.
And I hope its an act, but his constant "I haven't seen them play" answer in the chats is ridiculous if he isn't just screwing around. If you are the lead analyst on the flagship baseball broadcast on a cable channel devoted to sports, you should probably watch more games than just the ones you announce. But that always seemed to absurdly impossible for it to be true - he has to watch games during the week, right?
I think the odds of someone working out regularly are 1.35 xE10 higher than someone making it to the Major Leagues, so your point is duly noted dex.
Personally, I would have preferred Jordan and Walker. Since Dumars was drafting for potential (which is the right strategy in the 2nd) I think that tandem has more proverbial "upside" than Sharpe and Plaisted. Then again, I've literally never seen Sharpe play, so I'm more than willing to wait and see.
There's some talk that he wanted to stash two guys in the Euros and couldn't have done that with Jordan and Walker. I don't know. It seems like they will have plenty of roster spots available, but again, I'll wait and see if a trade affects that.
I do like moving down a few spots and getting out of guaranteed contracts.
Does this mean I will have to pick a permanent handle by Monday? One thing I like is being able to type in something like "Gay Man Who Winks at Boy Scouts In Public Restrooms" and type something witty like "Hey, I think Jimmy Clausen is a good quarterback, and I know he happens to like plunger handles up his ass".
I know the handle jacking can be annoying, but I think it happens far less than we think.
One thought here: Quitting smoking sucks ass. I'm on Day 5, and I really do think I am just going to go out and kill someone. And don't congratulate me or give me advice; I'm so pissed off right now I'm giving all of you who might do that a SHUT THE FUCK UP in advance.
I thought Rodney White was gonna be a stud on the Pistons - he was a huge offensive upgrade over Curry at the time - it just didn't work out. Only Sparty honks were excited about the Cleeves pick. SHit, give me Khalid El Amin as my chunky, slow, great in college, has a ring, but no shot of pro greatness PG over Ma-Teen any day.
By the way:
Tonight is "home made" Mojito night at the Sphincter household!
Plus Mateen would win any national Mr. Homeless award. He was tough to look at, man.
TBS- I just got back from a smoke break.
Why is everyone convinced the Indians are trading Sabathia??
Get loaded on mojitos, go to Comerica Park, heckle Grilli mercilessly and bait him into a fist fight.
I really wish this series was at Coors. The prospect of Zumaya drilling Grilli in the brain bucket with a 100 mph heater would be so exciting, no matter how unlikely.
Why is everyone convinced the Indians are trading Sabathia??
Because the only Krispy Kreme in Cleveland closed last week?
and after drinking those mojitos, clean your vag
Inge for Sabathia. Make it happen, DD.
Additionally, I think it’s clear Tressel has absolutely no faith in Boeckman.
WTF? where did this come from? not being shitty about this, but Ima, please support your statement...
the minge? for namesake i hope he stays in the big leagues for a while
One other thing on the draft - imagine being the coach of the guy who averaged 5 ppg in the French league and who somehow got drafted in the first round anyway. He's got to be laughing his ass off.
Was anybody as What-the-fuck-bewildered as I was when they saw Kiki Vandeweghe on TV last night with a job under his name caption?
Nets are setting things up to go for LeBron in 2010. This includes hiring the worst possible GM, setting him up for failure, firing him in early 2010 and hiring Jay-Z as the replacement.
Seriously though, could the Nets be any more obvious about making a run at LeBron.
There's no doubt they're going to land Lebron in '10, but I was just amazed that he managed to nab another job - regardless of the prophecy foretelling his bloodletting before the arrival of the one true Lebron.
I would like to play for Detroit. I have TNS no more.
I'd just like to remind everyone again that the Charlotte Bobcats have never made the NBA playoffs in franchise history.
If Chris Wallace warranted a 2nd job, then Kiki did as well.
Actually, the Bobcats are currently the biggest farce in basketball now. Dj Augustin? Argh.
TBS- I just got back from a smoke break.
dex | Homepage | 06.27.08 - 3:04 pm
You sire, are now on my shit list. But hey, what if I go buy a pack of Camels, and then re-quit on Monday?
How the fuck did that cocksucker Vanderwege get another gig?
kiki vandeweghe is pretty respected around the league. he turned the dogshit nuggest into a semi-respectable team which was a monumental task in itself. i could give a shit less about him either way
Dex -
I believe you said yesterday that you would post up about barwis on your site as soon as you could figure out what the WLA stance on him and the new training methods should be...
Most of the "new" performance oriented training methodologies are ultimately derivative of the work of Yuri Verkhoshansky - a former Soviet athlete and later Soviet National team coach who worked for many years on advancing the theories of plyometrics, sport specific training, etc etc...
I believe there were some publications in Russian (which I cannot read anyway) but most people refer to the english publication "Supertraining" Siff M.C. & Verkhoshansky Y.V. 1999
Obviously people took the theories from there and have improved or modified them, but in essence most of these theories came into being because of Verkhoshansky's publications.
I think it seems pretty clear what the WLA's take should be...
When will Bobcat fans' years and years of suffering be rewarded?
but seriously how can a grown ass man go by the name 'kiki'?
Like I said yesterday, the WLA is fully supportive of the methods of Minister of Strength Barwis, but we are deeply conflicted on the nature of the Cult of Barwis that is sweeping the republic.
@ troll,
Obviously, this is just my opinion of Tressel’s opinion which surprises me that you even care. I will offer what ‘concrete’ support I can with the understanding that my ‘evidence’ is mostly empirical and hardly conclusive. My opinion may be strongly colored by the fact that I don’t think Boeckman is more than an acceptable game manager and place holder. For the record, I think Krenzel is highly underrated.
Tressel trusted Smith in ‘06. That was plain to see. He trusted Krenzel to a point (“Holy Buckeye!” against Purdue) but he mostly trusted his defense. Tressel also trusted Krenzel enough to want the ball in his hands on so many plays—especially in the championship game when the was the leading rusher. His play calling appears to be trying to protect Boeckman and build up his confidence more than the others. Last season, Tressel moved away from turtling towards bombs away in the second half of blow outs. I took this to mean he was concerned about Boeckman and wanted to protect him by building up his confidence. The nail in the coffin was the Michigan game. After Boeckman’s INT Tressel basically shut him down. 14-3 was not an overwhelming lead. If Henne had been able to get lucky or pull it together (which he had done in other games) that game would have gotten a lot more interesting. Yet, OSU wasted the entire second half plunging into the line or having Boeckman eat the ball. I know Tressel turtles but that seemed premature even for him.
I think Tressel’s concern is warranted. Boeckman’s decision making (when it’s not a specially designed early down play action either he’s wide open or eat it) is not the best. He throws a nice deep ball. He just throws it to the safety way too much.
Carr didn’t trust any of his QB’s to do anything until he had his back to the wall.
Why is everyone convinced the Indians are trading Sabathia??
Because the only Krispy Kreme in Cleveland closed last week?
MRG | 06.27.08 - 3:10 pm | #
the pervasive thought at the time of the hafner signing was that dolan was going to sign either hafner or sabathia but not both.
cc recently was rumored to be seeking a "santana" contract. 6 years 137.5 contract with full no trade clause will never happen in cleveland.
cleveland is a stingy organization, in part because they can't get anyone to the park. which is funny, because they sold out every home game for like 11 years straight.
if true that the decision was down to cc and hafner, then lol @ the indians. i hate cleveland more than i hate boston teams.
Tressel did the same against MSU. After Boeckman committed two turnovers that led to MSU defensive scores, OSU didn't call another pass play the rest of the game, even after MSU closed it to 24-17.
tressel is way more laid back after he drinks a couple wine coolers
The Indians historically have had poor attendance. When they played in the "Mistake on the Lake," I knew guys who'd drive there when the Tigers were in town and buy good lower-deck seats. With Jacobs Field they seem to have capitalized on both the novelty of a new stadium and the fact that they were winning. Now both have changed and their fans have returned to their usual apathy.
dex- ahhh, yes, I could see how the WLA could be concerned about possible upstart religions...
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imafreak- regarding tressel's "turtling"...
Interesting that you bring up the INT and the switch to a ball control offense. A similar occurance in the MSU game mentioned by hat backs up your idea.
Previously there was a small thought rolling around in my head that if there was ever a time when OSU could have piled it on UM last year was the time (Henne and Hart were pathetic in their courageous but futile efforts)
After the game the thought occured to me that Tressel might have actually put the brakes on in order to NOT embarrass UM and Carr in that (Carr and the Seniors last) game...
But now, with your argument and the additional evidence of the MSU similarity, I can now restore my belief that Tressel is Satan and that he did not any way show compassion for Carr and the injured seniors, rather he only put the brakes on to ensure the win (as we were basically harmless offensively and a defensive comeback was our only hope)...
Thank you for restoring all that is right in the world.
@ Ima & hat
Fair enough, as the scenarios both of you guys painted really are what happened in the LSU game. ( but behind so late in the game Boeckman had to pass)--- Tressel IS conservative and if the pass fails he'll run it, but fwiw, if you had Beanie and the size OL he has....is that not an acceptable strategy? ...btw Henton has left OSU (as u know) but this Bauserman really looked pretty good in the spring game
i could see tressel as the male actor in a cialis commercial
...and maybe Rita as the female??
haha troll
...I dunno BGH -fantasies about your nemisis' erections maybe cause for concern...have you talked with anyone?
Did anybody else see the guy doing the Riverdance to the Mexican band's version of Hail to the Victors?
Personally I thought Wells slowly choking the life out of Ann Arbor was just as embarrassing as curb stomping us in a 50-3 game or something.
yeah, i don't think tressel packed it up at all.
he just saw that they would get endless amounts of first downs and slowly choke the life out of the game.
and, i think, it just wasn't possible to throw much.
michigan's defense knew exactly what was coming and just got pushed around.
hans, white dudes dancing is bad enough, but when they're drunk.. yikes
He didn't really choke the life out of us. OSU had a whole bunch of 3-and-outs in the second half. They were moving the ball more when they had some threat of a pass.
i get second hand embarrassment any time i'm around people dancing.
hat, i wasn't there but from the impression i got over the television, it got harder to throw the ball as the game went on.
an 11 point lead in that game = = 21 in a game with decent weather and not arm dead senior quarterback.
@97 Alum
I think Tressel backed off..look at how it ended-pic
http://photo.the-ozone.net/
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,,on the 5 yrd line w/ 3 t.o.s
I was there. There was a light rain, and it probably was a little harder than usual to pass. But I'm just saying, Wells got most of his yards before Tressel turtled. After they went up 14-3, our D stopped them a bunch of times but our O never took advantage.
Wasn't it also getting harder to throw because Henne's shoulder wasn't really in the socket anymore? Or had they fixed that already?
Henne's arm was fucked before the game started ..it was fucked up the week before wasn't it?..and never got better (unless there was a faith healer in da house) I didn't see Oral Roberts did you?
Hans... they're talkin' bout OSU's ability to throw
In that case, carry on. I'll be on the new board under a different name.
...I dunno BGH -fantasies about your nemisis' erections maybe cause for concern...have you talked with anyone?
troll | 06.27.08 - 4:19 pm | #
It's only a concern in fantasy erections lasting more than 4 hours.
I don't see how a pass over 10-15 yards was possible in the 2nd half of that game last year- it had been drizzling for hours and it was pretty damn cold to boot. I almost fumbled my flask on several occasions even.
I'm sure the troll has some advice from past/present experiences...
Tressel's treatment of Lloyd last year was like watching f fight between a really big guy and a small guy with the big guy putting his hand on top of the lil guy and just watching him flail away while he keeps him at a safe distance and laughs.
Then with his other hand, the big guy bitch slaps the lil guy every so often just to embarrass him. Then the big guy gets tired of the game and gives the lil guy a wedgie and whispers in his ear "You're lucky I don't tie you up into a knot and stuff you into the garbage can"
Not that that ever happened to me or anything.
Wow. I completely forgot to change my handle back after jacking Imus.
I'm sure the troll has some advice from past/present experiences...
Maize4Blue
M4B
Not really -Rita hasn't come onto me..(yet)
@Ninja-
...you still bust my ass up!
So Rita's going to be your firepower this year? So be it. Might I remind you that DickRod only dates cheerleaders that are actually in college.
ohhhh... the old gotta be enrolled proviso huh... how discriminating!!
The guy's a wizard hat wearing snake oil salesman. What can I say?
I thought Mallet should've stayed in in the second half. It was obvious that Henne had nothing left and I doubt Mallet could've done anything worse. Henne's effort was valiant, but he just didn't have the physical tools at that point to overcome his injuries, the weather, and Manningham's sudden case of the dropsies in the biggest game of the year.
Also, I thought it was pretty obvious that Tressel turned off the engine and just let Wells run to his heart's delight. He knew we had nothing but injured superstars and a God-like left tackle. I was freezing, soaked through with rain, and hungover as fuck, and I just stood there pissed off that we were so pathetic and that Tressel saw the blood in the water and called off the sharks. I thought it was a slight to Carr.
....they say he recruits by "need"
It was cold and wet, but it wasn't historically bad or anything. In no way was it on the level of say, '92 Illinois (heavy snowfall), '95 Purdue (the most miserable weather conditions I've experienced for any sporting event), '98 Northwestern or some others I'm blanking on.
To be fair to the Michigan D, Wells' numbers were fairly pedestrian in the first half (less than 4 YPC). it was only after the gimpy offense went 3-and-out on every possession of the game that the D got tired and the yards began to stack up. The 200+ yards stat was impressive, but didn't tell the whole story.
RE: Mallet
I think Carr knew Mallet wasn't a true Michigan Man and didn't want him to lead the troops to vistory. Plus he was going to transfer anyways. I knew it. My buddy told me.
/weekend!!!
For most of the game we did a decent job on Wells. His 60+ yard TD brings up his average a ton.
If you take the 62 yarder out of the equation Wells averaged 4.2 per carry. Which was a yard and a half below his season average. So in that retrospect we did well against him, or at least better than other teams did.
Tressel bitch slapped Lloyd by calling off the dogs. Plain and simple. Knew Lloyd lacked the balls to do anything but keep dead armed Henne in there and hope that Manningham got behind the defense for a 20 point touchdown catch.
Lloyd really sucked balls.
And most of that came only after the D was gassed. OSU's TOP was nearly 40 minutes.
I agree with TBS. Lloyd sold out the team out of a sense of loyalty to Henne. It was clear that he was physically unable to do . . . well, anything, but Lloyd kept him in anyway.
Mallett was a turnover factory, but at least he presented some threat of completing a pass (which would have been promptly dropped by our receivers).
The one drive Mallet had we moved the ball a bit. If I remember didn't he have a 20 some yard completion wiped out by a penalty? I thought we looked a little more alive with him in. As in we went from dead and decaying salmon that got mauled by a Grizzly to dead and decaying fish that washes up on a beach.
@Dex
you are by far the most vile thing on this board, but the Joe Morgan impression is awesome, great co-sistency.
I diagree that Tressl "dissed" Carr by calling off the dogs... Tressel never has ever run up the score on anyone ...if so please site examples.
I think his style is keep his team on their toes to fight complancency..(didn't work too well in champ games though... esp FL)
I would rather go down swinging and possibly lose by a wider margin than to concede like Lloyd did. I was pissed.
I wouldn't mind running up the score a bit over the next few years. Or at least to not get a 6 point lead and then try to run out the clock starting with the first possession of the second half.
I don't think that RR will be too shy about putting up points once the offense starts to click.
would rather go down swinging and possibly lose by a wider margin than to concede like Lloyd did. I was pissed.
Quite understandable..but Carr knew he was retiring and felt allegiances to his last senior class
Sure, why risk sending them out 1-3 against OSU when 0-4 is so much more dramatic?
When Ted Ginn Jr. went down against Florida you guys were done. You didn't have anybody left to stretch the field (at least that they were afraid of) and Troy Smith looked blatantly unspectacular.
You can make the same decisions as a coach to not run up the score. Like putting in the scout team against YSU and it is meant to not be a prick. But calling off the war machine against your biggest rival with an 11 point lead in the early moments of the 3rd quarter was a calculated dick move.
If it had been the other way around Lloyd would've done the same thing, but done it out of respect. Bo and Woody on the other hand would've ground each other into dust. It depends on the coach. Hopefully this year RichRod and Tressel can hate each other in a good ol' fashion way. I'd like that kind of civilized hatred amongst participants to come back to the game.
Hey those seniors gave up alot to come back -you're pretty quick to throw them under the bus..
For all of his faults as a coach and a drunk Moeller would've never let that happen. It is too bad that Moeller's legacy is tarnished by the fact that he was an abject moron. He was a damn good coach and recruiter while he was at the helm.
You have it completely backwards. Lloyd threw them (and the rest of the team) under the bus by playing someone who did not give us the best chance to win. They returned to win games, not just to get in the game. They deserved to have the coaches pull out all of the stops to try and win that game. Lloyd didn't.
@troll
I don't think anyone is throwing the seniors under the bus. We all know the type of indivduals they were. I think DA is saying that Carr threw the team under the bus by sticking with his seniors when he could've brought in Mallett (I've been neglecting the second t this entire conversation) and had a QB who didn't have a deadweight throwing arm into the game.
On a side note I hope to hell this works out. Clemson jobbed McElrathbey and should be ashamed.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ne...tory?
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musket -
disagree with you on moeller. he got drunk and emotional in public. the school jobbed him.
...You can make the same decisions as a coach to not run up the score. Like putting in the scout team against YSU and it is meant to not be a prick. But calling off the war machine against your biggest rival with an 11 point lead in the early moments of the 3rd quarter was a calculated dick move.
I disagree. The weather sucked. Henne was hurt but our next best option was Edward Mallet-Hands. You've got a stud at tailback and a guy at QB whom you don't have the greatest confidence in. I think the logical, vanilla, OMG I'M THE ONE PERSON ON THE PLANET WITHOUT AN IMAGINATION thing to do was for Tressel to pound it out and wear down our defense. It's not like he had USC's weapons and they decided to put a tackle in the backfield and rumble ahead for 2.5 yards a play- that 11 point lead was equivalent to at least 21 and there wasn't much hope of us coming back.
I'm not saying he wasn't a complete drunk-ass. I'm just saying he was a great coach. UM was probably looking for a reason to fire him and Moeller gave them one, but he was still a great coach and recruiter.
Ninja
Fair enough.
I was at thirsty-Thursday last night and was hoping to see a maniac pick a fight with one of the numerous overweight middling women in the stands or run onto the field for no apparent reason, join him, ask him, "are you ninja?" and if the answer was no, punch him in the face. If the answer was yes I was to join him in his marauding journey across the Oldsmobile Park infield. Unfortunately nothing of the sort happened and the Lugnuts lost to a team called the "Loons." It was subpar baseball with above par 2 dollar beers.
no, i'm saying michigan dropped the ball for firing him. he was - and probably still is - a better coach than lloyd. so what, a guy has a couple too many drinks.
Ahh. I'm always confused if we agree on something.
Thanks for clarifying Musket, that is basically my contention.
As far as coaches that are better than Lloyd - that is not exactly a short list.
Moeller and Lloyd were on staff together, Bo retired- who got the job?
That's all you need to say. Did he get screwed over- yeah probably, but we're a stuffy, high profile institution, and you can't give the academic side who'd rather see the program die a leg to stand on or you're screwed.
Musket:
My drunken antics are much more subtle and cerebral, like last Friday at the Peanut Barrel when this brah struck out big time but was clueless that he'd done so (1st hint- THEY LEFT THE BAR), so I called the guy over to explain to me how he was so good with women. I had the bartender's cracking up.
So get your ass over here and give me a ride to the bar- this whole limping/probably need crutches thing is really getting in the way of my entertainment.
Hey those seniors gave up alot to come back -you're pretty quick to throw them under the bus..
Lets see - Long went #1 - which he wouldn't have done in the 07 draft (thomas was considered a bigger prospect)
Henne went in the second round - he would not have been taken earlier as Russell was the #1 qb prospect and quinn was the #2 in 07.
And Hart went right about where he would have been if he came out early.
So I don't see how they gave up a lot in terms of their pro career by coming back to UM - if anything these three did themselves a favor by coming back.
(By favor I mean in terms of NFL bucks - not the same of losing to App St and OSU for the 4th time in a row.)
The idea that Tressel calling off the dogs as the biggest insult of all is interesting... Not sure I agree, but interesting nonetheless.
I agree that Henne and Hart should have been out of the game at the first sign of any inability to perform. Seniors or not, the point is to win the game.
Not going with Mallet etc was effectively giving up.
Worst game ever. (Which made the UF game so much more suprising)
that 11 point lead was equivalent to at least 21 and there wasn't much hope of us coming back.
21 points - more like 41 points - as soon as OSU scored a TD the game was over.
Shit, IMO Tress did us and LLoyd (or LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLoyd as the OSU fans prefer) a favor by not running it up. He realized that 11 point lead was untouchable - I think he even gave Mo Wells a few carries the game was so out of reach.
@JHS
I dunno the present value of $$ theory would argue leave now and take the bucks and invest... as opposed to play another year fuck up your knee and hope to prove something to your team and yourself?...fwiw I thought Gholsten was smart to enter the draft early and maybe some of the others (esp M Jenkins should take the $ and run)
Before the site rolls out and I'm forced into choosing one handle to stir the pot on this board, thought I'd share 5 things I'll remember most before the new format kicks in:
1. Chunks’ “face down on Keech” posting – see below
2. Encouraged by the board, 00-mgoblue-00 posts her facebook profile with pictures
3. Any exchange involving BILG & Magnus. Only slightly less interesting than the our Brown Jug rivalry with Minnesota.
4. The periodic cup chicks posting. BTW, we're overdue. Anyone? Anyone?
5. elnolewis being first-to-market with the handlejack and overkill of mark mangino jokes
“I woke up today face down on Keech, next to the stadium. I think I cried myself to sleep, except for the part about crying, which was actually drinking. And I dreamt that Les Miles descended from the heavens on a ray of sunlight, landing squarely on Jim Tressel like Dorothy landing on the Wicked Witch of the North. He touched my cheek and my pale, wrinkled face grew smooth, warm, and healthy again. I cast aside my bottle of Wild Irish Rose and followed Les into the bright light of future Michigan football dominance, forever and ever amen.
Then I woke up, butt cold on the pavement, and there was Bill Martin standing over me, dick hanging out of his $1000 overcoat, pissing on my head.
Chunks the Hobo | 12.10.07 - 11:12 am |"
Honorable Mention: Beantown ripping Dickey V. today for not using "Baby" in his post only to notice it was the second word used.
Am I the only one that saw the Rich & Rita interview on "From the Heart" last night? [crickets]
It was pretty useless.
MRG | 06.27.08 - 1:03 pm | #
/raises hand
Worst. Interview..... Ever.
4 hours and 18 minutes- has to the longest MGoPause ever.
Hmm- I wonder if I can be banned for calling out stupid people on Scout. If so it shouldn't take long, as I just reminded some guy he's just a commenter and not a coach.
Something's been eating at me for a while now. If identical twins entered a beauty pageant and found their way into the final 2 spots of the contest, and did nothing to distinguish themselves - same outfits, same answers, same dresses, same catwalk - who the hell would win? Can you tie in a beauty pageant?
From the comments section of one of Brian's fanhouse articles:
"3. so let me get this straight...
When 35 year old douchebag Mike Barwis runs around yelling/screaming/swearing like an roided up Lee Ermey he is a golden god.
But when an excitable 18 year exhibits leadership and passion he is fodder for your ridiculous musings.
You are the ONE writer on this site who consistently brings nothing to the table. Report some real news or crawl back to your michigan blog and rabble-rouse with the rest of the troglodytes."
Troglodyte > Clone.
Cave dwellers should stick to dark places. Like Ohio.
William Campbell interview:
http://vids.myspace.com/
index.cf...nelID=168429334
W.C. = Immature
Musket, are you saying Ohio is where the sun don't shine? It all makes sense now!
@Afro:
Didn't really see anything that made him any less mature than any other 17 year old high school kid. The tape of the 1-on-1's os AMAZING. That kid is sick dude. And anyone else notice he doesn't mention USC in his list of visits? Interesting.
My favorite part of the WC interview...
Scout: "There are reports or certainly rumors that you might be interested in Michigan State. What about the Spartans?
WC: "Nah, I'm not looking at them."
Case closed. The scout guy even chuckled.
That's because he knows he has a future in football. The only thing worse than going to MSU for a future in football is when you get drafted by the Lions.
Drew Stanton - R.I.P.
4 hours and 18 minutes- has to the longest MGoPause ever.
Ninja Football | 06.28.08 - 12:04 am | #
No news is good news unless you want to win the Fulmer Cup.
Good luck, man...see you on the "flipside"
BTW, all this talk about the OSU game reminds me of another thing that drove me nuts about Lloyd: during his last 5-6 years, he never, ever put on a punt rush. That might have been our best chance to score in the game last year, but instead we kept playing for a 90-yard punt return.
Ninja:
The Scout guys will probably send you a warning PM. You should be golden, though. Alot of the posters there are total pussies. Make that almost all of them.
Bakc to Gentleman Jim Trifle of OSU:
His genius is his subtlety. He subtly called out UM when he was announced as the new coach. He took a subtle dig at RR withe the "Only between the gentlemen" crack. That one could have been interpreted as anything from "Yup. Rodriguez is a prick" to "Joe Tiller has never not reeked of alcohol at the post game handshake, and he looks like the BK killer, so I wouldn't put to much stock in what he has to say".
You got to give Trifle credit: he is pretty good with irony.
Bored? Have to sit through an annoying afternoon of summer thunder showers?
Turn on the BTN as they're showing a replay of the UM-FlA bowl game. They're about ready to go to the half....cant wait to see how it ends!
Congratulations, Michigan fans.
Jordan Barnes signed with you today. I am a Hoosier fan and he was deciding whether to commit to IU or Michigan. We were his best two offers, by far. UofC what interested (they signed four from Indiana yesterday) but they had not offered. I thought that he might come to IU. Congrats.
So according to varsity blue OSU is now at 23 commits (3-5*, 12-4*, 8-3*) - most of their class is now settled. No doubt looks like a great class.
Anyone else think the trend of so many commits before the sr season is played is kind of crazy?
Some kids will stagnate and some late bloomers will flourish...
Granted I am sure most kids will perform as expected, but doesn't it seem logical that the early commitment trend (across NCAA fb in general) may result in more quality "late upswing" kids being available late to schools that don't fill classes as quickly? (ie non-powerhouses) Similarly - some of the powerhouses will be locked out on pulling in these kids due to full classes... (Resulting in either more parity or more unpredictability of recruiting classes than in the past)
Or do you think the coaches are so adept at assessing talent and knowing what is available in a particular year (coupled with the summer camps) that it probably won't make a difference?
No school in particular in mind, but what makes me question the early commits/offers trend are some of the 3* commits "highlight" tapes in particular looking relatively unspectacular to garner the early offers and subsequent commitment.
For the record I am generally in the "the coaches know what they are doing" camp.
...may result in more quality "late upswing" kids being available late to schools that don't fill classes as quickly?
i think the odds are just as good that the 3* committed guy from osu has a breakout year as the 3* uncommitted who may fall to Pur.
besides, the more early verbals that occur, the less meaning a verbal really has. IOW, a verbal these days isn't much more than a leader 5-10 years ago.
early verbals can have a "breakout" year many different ways...some of the wildest shit I did was during my senior year in HS and could have cost any other kid with a scholly, his scholly ...so it can be good or bad
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Oooh, veiled reference to your athletic prowess. Builds credibility without coming across as a braggart. I love that move.
Lol. j/k man. So what's the general reaction among the Buckeye faithful on having close to a full class this early? I know if it was us, I'd be a little suspect just because there may be guys who have breakout years whom we'd overlook.
We are the suckiest sucks that ever sucked. Pwned again by the AL.
All that matters is the cubs complete the sweep tomorrow. that will make my year.
Todd Jones blowing it like no other.
5-5 9th inning
Wow 6-5 rockies.
Fuck. We were one out away from .500!
home run will win it.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
YES
Cabrera 2 run double to win it!!!
They seriously need to gang beat Todd Jones for 2 minutes.
Yep, and Verlander should lead the way.
i'll be at the game tomorrow. hopefully it won't be rained out. anyone else going?
Todd Jones deserves at least one "blanket party" from his teammates.
"What the fuck is that?"
"Sir?! A jelly doughnut, sir!"
Happy for the Tigers win tonight...but Fuentes used to be my buddies roommate when he was in the Mariners system, and he's a super nice guy. That part sucked.
Also, love this headline from the Freep:
"Recruiting: OSU's Jim Tressel crushing U-M's Rich Rodriguez"
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d.../306280012/
1054
And...junior qb from Florida wins award at UofM Football Camp:
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.d...6/80628010/
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Oh, and "Fire Millen!":
http://www.mlive.com/lions/
index...ones_worko.html
That Jonathan Stewart comic book was one of the most painful things I have ever read. Not even a hint of cheerleader sex.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com.../
content.1.html
Gotdammit I love bacon. I slapped my self all over today with a pack of Hickory Farms like a Finn with pine boughs. I did this until my nub popped out. I swear I could amost see it. Got so turned on I wanted to rub one out while I thought of Jimmie Clausen's yearning starhole.
I started breathing hard and thought "grabber!" so I just said "fuck it" and had some olive loaf.
It's good to be me. And to hell with Michigan.
First post. This is a cool site, friend of mine just turned me on to it.
Anybody know the latest on Antonio Bass?
Bass is on the rebound and gonna give Henne a run for his money. I think the clip below was from a pre-season scrimmage or something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V...h?
v=V7KOF05jkXE
How dare you post [bowl redacted] footage! I don't care what kind of catch it was. Ah, I'm going to have Ecker nightmares for a week. Pitch the damn ball to Breaston. I was waiting in the second row of the endzone for the "lambeau-esque leap." Fucking pitch the ball!
@97alum
any time you're trying to make a decision based on incomplete information, the more data points you have, the better you will do. The point about the early signings is that data from senior year is being displaced by following these kids longer, more camp evaluations, and yes, even using the recruiting services to narrow in on the most likely to succeed. They still have a healthy amount of data to judge the kids on. so while it would make sense to wait after the season, the benefit of early signings outweighs the risks that the kids won't pan out.
Of course you could just pull an alabama and over-sign by 6 or 7 kids each year and just give schollies to the top 25. at least until the ncdoubleassholes do something about over-signing.
CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL!!!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/co...mark&
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3 hours between posts? What the fuck? This is Sunday what are you guys doing? Going to church? As a wise wolverine femme once said: "Fuck Jesus!"
Also, I have no friends.
Also. Goddamn I want my 2001 back. #10 should probably be #3 or 4.
http://www.freep.com/apps/
pbcs.d...Params=Itemnr=1
Ninja - I too would like to hear what the buckeye fans think of their class being full so early... If it was us I'd second guess some of those lower caliber recruits...
Not a loser - I agree with what you are saying about the fact that they are evaluating these kids over longer time frames (see the post about the Florida junior QB above by Afrocalypse Now at 11:07pm). Also the oversigning could become much more of an unfair advantage with the early commit trend.
Musket - I don't know if I believe Henson should even be on that list. However, that one season was pretty good, and he did beat both OSU and win a bowl.
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Speaking of the Freep top 10 UM QBs list. Henne is #4, Navarre is #7.
Now I know it is enjoyable to make the Tyrannosaurus rex comparisons to Navarre, but: 1) He had the same records just previous to Henne, 2) He also won only a single bowl game (also against UF) 3) He beat OSU 4) He did it in less seasons (2001-2003 vs 2004-2007)
I would still prefer Henne to Navarre myself, and I think Henne will be a good pro and was a steal in the draft, but based on results thus far at this point IMO Navarre should get the nod.
97Alumni - if there's only one of you, you should call yourself "97Alumnus" or "97Alumna" (depending on your gender).
Nitpick man-
Let's just say my science is far better than my latin. (or anything related to language for that matter)
Changed.
Or at least I hope it is...
And here I thought there were 97 of you sharing the handle....
Henson was the best QB to ever play at Michigan. Just because he chose baseball and Carr mishandled the Brady/Henson situation doesn't take away from his amazing talent. Also, if you could swap Henne into Navarre's years and vice versa, Henne would have made those teams amazing. Henne was handicapped by Lloyd Carr trying to shift responsibilities to his coordinators.
Henne could have just as good an NFL career as Brady. He has more raw talent and is just as smart. He just needs some top notch coaching.
Also, I love soccer, but already I've seen way to much fucking diving through 16minutes. Damn Euros.
Does anyone know who is in town for the kicking camp? Scout says something in the header about non-kicker suprises visiting.
suprises = surprises
I was the anon talking about Henne and Henson earlier.
the stupid 94 colorado game is on. god damn kordell stewart.
Daniel L - I would agree that talent wise, Henson might have been the best. But does talent and one season of results make him one of the 10 best QBs over 30 years?
When Carr was splitting time between Henson and Brady, it was in his interest, not in the interest of the team's success. (Or he would have unseated Brady)
What if Carr had sat him (like most other underclassman QB's) until he thought he was ready to take over? Would he have left, or just not come? Either way, not the sign of a great QB to me. (Of course you could argue that Carr played him because he thought he could unseat Brady-but if I remember correctly, at the end of those games we always needed Brady to come back in)
And then he left. So talent or not, we ended up getting 1 OSU win and 1 bowl win from him. Does that make him top 10? Probably not IMO, maybe an honorable mention based on that single season's results. Was he talented? Of course and probably more than the others (at least until he went to the Yankees, because the NFL didn't work out so well, although I know I was rooting for him). But a lot of other guys stuck it out and were arguable more productive for UM over that 30 year span, and that should count for something.
I too think Henne has the potential to be great in the NFL, but is it really valid to say - I think this guy was more talented so he was the better QB for UM? Or should it be by numbers?
Would he have been better than Navarre on those teams? Probably.
All I am saying is thus far, the RESULTS (sorry, don't know how to boldface) say there isn't that much difference as I would have expected, and I don't know if when comparisons are made apparent talent should trump results on the field.
FYI
less than symbol
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thanks
Ninja - I too would like to hear what the buckeye fans think of their class being full so early...
Well I am one who hinted at it in my above post...I think it could be good or bad, it depends on the kid. They could get hurt in their senior season then OSU looks like pricks if they renege on an offer, he could screw up off the field and come as damaged goods. ...but if they lock up a bunch of studs, that's great. .....the main thing to remember is that it's all a crap shoot anyway. The only way to judge this stuff, I feel, is to look at who's the main guy recruiting for the school, go back & see how well he's done in the past at scoping out the talent then cross your fingers.
@ Ninja
Nice try on the scholly inference, I went to Birminghan GROVES not Brother Rice... so sorry no atheletic scholly here..
When Carr was splitting time between Henson and Brady, it was in his interest, not in the interest of the team's success. (Or he would have unseated Brady)
if by 'his' you mean Carr's... then that's got to be the biggest douchebag comment on Earth. i can't think of a bigger insult to everything LC stood for than that.
yes, that includes 'LLLLLLLloyd.'
I meant that it was in Henson's interest.
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fixed my own post.
I said best QB. Not most productive, not best stats. Although I do understand how subjective "best" is, and what do we measure it with. I'll amend my statement to say "Henson was the most talented QB ever to play at Michigan. Had he been more mature, he could have had the best 2 seasons EVER for a UM QB, instead of just the one best season."
Idle curiosity, does anyone know what Henson was projected as if he had declared for the NFL draft after his Junior year?
i want to say he may have been considered for #1 overall in the Vick class... and i also recall hearing him out performing leftwitch before he was drafted. this is all very hazy, tho.
I don't know what his draft projection would have been, but I do know he would have been the front runner for the Heisman FWIW.
CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL!!!!!!
I think it's great that none of the media types are giving M any chance of doing well this year. Phil Steele has UM well back in the pack in the B10, and CFN more or less says that Utah will beat us. For RR and the staff it's an ideal situation from a summer workout and fall camp motivational standpoint. If nothing else, he won't have too many big heads to deal with.
Some "insider" claimed awhile back that most of the staff (Carr included) believed that Henson was the better player, but that QB coach Stan Parrish lobbied for Brady, and the platoon system was launched as a compromise. Carr seems to have expected Henson to seize control of the job (keep in mind, Brady's junior year in '98 wasn't all that great - our offense struggled to move the ball much of that year), but the reverse ended up happening.
Anyway, I forget who said this, but it seems plausible.
To be clear, the insider emphasized that the platoon system was a favor to BRADY, not Henson. Brady's strong play that season surprised the staff.
Interesting post hat.
Did anyone ever read anything about what the evaluation on Henson was after he came back to the league? I am sure some of it had to do with so much time away, and the truncated nature of his college career; but it would be interesting to hear what NFL guys felt his shortcomings were on the comeback attempt.
There's nothing quite like a Funyun.
Some interesting facts on that 15 yrs old qb that took the top spot at U of M's camp:
http://blackprwire.com/press-
rel...p_football_camp
First of all, I have no idea wtf "blackprwire" is.
Secondly, he's 15....70 yard bombs? WTF
Thirdly, it says we have the largest football camp...anyone know if that's legit?
Lastly, WTF are there "other college coaches" there?
Tonight I was at Rick's and approached this big chested chinese chick. she was a little drunk and I started getting a little friendly... but shit then she started to bitch at me. And then she cried in the middle of the dance floor; what a bitch.
fucking chinks hos.
yeah I don't care much for chinese whores either, but chinese dudes are okay.
http://forums.bucknuts.com/showt...ead.php?
t=25422
the vest wants an early signing period now? fukn weasel!
how's it going guys? I had a similar experience with a chinese chick at a bar by lobster shack. shit it was messy.
Bring me the new MGOBLOG...
Daddy wants to see the sexy upgrade!
I cannot wait to make the:
LAST!
comment.
Oh yeah...LAST
It's Monday for Brian, and it's not down yet. So when does the change happen?
There's nothing quite like a Funyun.
Afrocalypse Now | 06.29.08 - 9:40 pm | #
WRONG:
http://www.taquitos.net/snacks.p...hp?
snack_code=4
And handlejacker, if you'd pay attention you'd know I haven't been to a Rick's in about 8 years.
See you all on the flipside!
fucking chinks hos.
big gay heart | 06.29.08 - 10:43 pm | #
Keep your offensive racist terms to yourself, loser. You give the term Michigan Man a bad name. You would think that someone with a handle like yours would understand.
Don't ya just love it when you have asparagus piss. My whole house smells like a fucking litter box.
Well, at least they finally have schools in Alabama...
http://www.freep.com/apps/
pbcs.d...Params=Itemnr=1
RE: Henson's Draft stock
had he returned for his senior season he was considered the #1 prospect over all. Had in entered the draft in '01 he would have been the first qb taken not named Vick.
Had to chime in for the last post here , before the new set-up.
I hope we like it.
Hey JHS,
I think Henson would have won the Heisman (over Eric Crouch, what a joke) and led us to the Championship against Miami.
I don't know if we would have beat them or not, but I'm sure U-M with a senior Henson coulda won it that year.
Terrell might have came back for his senior season which might have helped him be more mature on the next stage.
Good luck with the new format Brian and thanks for the great job you do!!
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