I wonder if Schafer plays Score-O.
dont freak people, its not x's and o's its jimmies and joes...
schemes will not win championships, good players, that are well versed in your defesive scheme, wins cahmpionships....
Hmmm... just, wow. Really thought we would pick up someone with a bit more notariety.
Looking forward to hearing more.
The super-important killer insider info post was far too short lived as the top story. That by far was the post of the year.
while i will admit, coaches like to think of themselves as being these great chess players, that are constantly trying to out smart the other coaches... at the end of the day, my teams have had the most success when they were .....A) confident in the plan, and new it to the T, B) Motivated to win for me , for thier familes, for themselves...C) were able to handle correctly when bad things happend, and when good things happend.
I take no credit for any games that I Have won, that i did not play in. But if my kids arent prepared, if they are confused by an offense, that is defintely my fault. From what i can tell RR sorrounds himself with Football teachers, and motivators... i could care less what scheme, offensively and defensively they run. THey WILL have success if they do their jobs.
Yeah, I think the score-o post should be moved back to the top of the list.
D-coordinators aren't even that important.
Run up the score.
I have to love someone who names their kids Wolfgang and Elsa!
yea, we have a staff. now, what time is TP announcing today?
With Shafer as DC, can we officially call the new defense the "Fourth Reich"?
with Shafer's background, does it seem logical that he'd be the chicago (western midwest) recruiting guy...
perhaps we should do a bit of research on each of the new assistants to gauge where their potential regional recruiting ties might be located...
anyone have a little time?
Cue mindless freaking that his name isn't Tenuta in 5...4...3...2...
oh, and Score-O for RR is bad-ass! They better not let him move up at all though...
hopson will be useful in the south. but unless shafer worked california over like a demon in his eleven months at stanford i'd say our west coast recruiting looks dim.
gsimmons, what's a 3-4 okie defense?
http://www.footballscoop.com/cat...=Team%
20Defense
How has our west coast recruiting been the last few years anyways? I can't think of anyone immediately, but then again I haven't been paying close attention to that.
Brian,
Will the 3-3-5 Stack video you bought be on Ebay today?
donovan warren comes immediately to mind
He isn't Tenuta!!!
Is the 3-3-5 stack that much different than the 3-4 anyways? Isn't part of the 3-3-5 that you can have safety/linbacker mixes come up and act as a 3-4 style play anyways?
Pretty sure RR will be able to recruit in California.
Wasn't Leon Hall a San Diego guy?
Nick,
Point taken. Who was it that recruited him from our previous staff? English?
thats my base defense
the old oklahoma 50 defense... 50 okie....
3-4 is the modern 50... it is so much like what bo use to run...
no·to·ri·e·ty (nō'tə-rī'ĭ-tē) Pronunciation Key
n. The quality or condition of being notorious; ill fame.
Pretty sure we don't want someone that is notorious for anything.
I think that one QB we had, what was his name? Give me a second, oh yeah, Brady was a Cali guy.
west coast recruits:
07 class: warren, michael williams, steve watson, zion babb
06: jonas mouton, steve schilling
05: jason forcier, eugene germany, chris richards, johnny sears (wow)
let's not forget leon hall or GUTZ!
Yes, English was the west coast guy.
yeah, warren to ann arbor was entirely thanks to Ron-E.
Re: West Coast recruits:
Avery Horn, Jonas Mouton, Donovan Warren, Michael Williams, Zion Babb (CA)
Jermaine Jackson (Alaska)
Steve Schilling and a Brendan Lopez (Wash.)
UM does well on the West Coast
Donovan Warren
Leon Hall
there are a couple of kids who are now gone that came here from Cali. One was a coaches kid and I think he got the boot. Problem is that I think English was in charge of California and was pretty successful but who knows with Schafer now being here. Feel free to correct me on the English thing, just going off of memory.
I bet Ron English is scratching his head like wtf today. I just wish we could of got a well known guy with a better resume, this guy seems more fit for DC at EMU than UM. I mean YAYYY we got the former Ohio U QB to be our DC. Im sorry but RR and his blunt style really effed up here in my opinion.
i'm also concerned with who will cover texas. hopson's experience is limited to the southeast.
Don't ever forget that Jim Harbaugh has west coast ties.
Steve Watson was from Colorado, not California.
Texas is Jackson
oh sorry, you said west coast, not california
Seems like he's a decent hire. Turns Western's defense from godawful to 11th in the nation in two years.
Don't know what to make of Stanford this year, but obviously he didn't have much talent.
i just want Ron to succeed. I'm pulling for him.
I give approximately 1/2 a shit whether or not a defensive coordinator has a well known resume to a common fan.
You don't think RR might have looked into this himself? I trust his judgment over Joe Football Fan who thinks, well, I haven't heard of the guy so he = shit.
I will reserve second guessing on the new guy until the end of the season.
yeah i figured colorado was west enough
I'd definitely be happier with English. I think he improved a great deal over the course of his two years. To be fair, though, there were multiple plays against Florida where Harvin was covered either by Ezeh or Adams.
Texas is Jackson
Ali Haji-Sheikh | 01.11.08 - 1:12 pm
oops. that makes sense
English improved over the last game, and that's it. A simple case of short-term sports-fan memory. Everyone loved English for the first 11 games last year, hated him the next four, loved him the next eight, and didn't mention him the next two. In the last game he coached, you liked what you saw. The truth is that English had a lot of struggles. I wish him well, but I'm happy to let RR bring in a guy he feels good about.
The defense gave up 34 points to Appalachian State, if anyone cares to remember.
I like English's energy but I just never understood why teams like Wisconsin and MSU (in the second half) just ran it right down our throat when smashmouth running football was allegedly our strong point on defense.
Seems odd. Brian, need a Profiles...
How does this affect possible transfers on defense? There were (completely unconfirmed yet terrifying) rumors that Warren was not happy about English leaving and was thinking of transferring. Any more info on that?
As someone who lives in Colorado, I'm shocked that there are people who consider it part of the West Coast. I'd be in Nebraska in 2 hours.
Colorado's about as much a part of the west coast as Ohio is a part of the east coast.
Dex,
Thank you. RR does have a little experience in this "coaching" thing and probably has good info on Shafer. There are no signs of cronyism, so I am not worried until Southeast Western Rocky Mountain Sister's of the Poor Community College starts putting up 30+ on the Blue. I am withholding judgement until I see a product. The players opinion after spring ball will be a decent indicator of how things are going.
Well, Shafer's D was able to stop USC at USC this year...
Colorado is to the west coast what Ohio is to class and having teeth.
SCORE-O....this is great. I'm going to the game and will being my camera nd video tape this. I'm a little technological illiterate but i'll try to post it for ya guys
\You don't think RR might have looked into this himself? I trust his judgment over Joe Football Fan//
Too right...in Rod we trust. Dude seems to know a thing or two about running a good program.
\As someone who lives in Colorado, I'm shocked that there are people who consider it part of the West Coast.//
Those people need maps. Miss Teen South Cackalackey, PLEASE SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!!!!!
Tenuta? Hah!
You guys are so delusional. Have fun living in your own little world.
Oh, and prepare to get shredded by everyone you play.
I don't get it.
blueballs- how about you go fuck yourself? hmm...think about it and get back to me you troll
I'm from Montana (insert sheep joke here) and now live in Washington. Montana is a relatively similar to Colorado and there is no way I would want either compared to the WC. They get weirder the closer you get to salt water.
I'm not terribly pumped about it, but I assume RR hired a competent coach. If nothing else, with like 9 billion secondary coaches on the team, we might be able to cover people.
One favorable stat in the Shafer v. English debate:
Ron English's record against USC as DC:
0-1
Scott Shafer's record against USC as DC: 1-0
i only want coaches herbstreit recommends
Blueballs = mouthbreather.
DetUMICH- great stat. Thats funny. What is his bio??
Also, did RR have this presser taped where I can view it...or no?
blueballs,
Just keep beating it after you get a little excited, and you'll fix that problem shortly.
There is no way RR would have kept English on as DC after he interviewed not once but twice for the head coaching job. Also, there is no way in hell RE would have stayed on at Michigan as DC after he interviewed not once but twice for the head coaching job. Don't you guys think that RE has at least a little pride? Once RR was hired, RE was out the door any way you look at it. It would have been an awkward situation for both, to say the least.
What team is "blueballs" a fan of? Blueballs, that is a question for you to answer. By the way you do know that blueballs is a term used for someone whose testicles are swollen and blue from not being "relieved". Trolling a Michigan board will not help you find someone to "relieve" that condition. Go to a bar and find the most drunk girl or guy (NTTAWWT) and leave us alone.
I'm too lazy to see if this has been posted elsewhere, but I've heard that there are rumors that OSU's #2 QB all season, Robbie Shoenhoft, is going to transfer. Perhaps he thinks the writing is on the wall with Pryor?
Count me among those that believe that RE will be a good HC at a BCS-level program someday. But he admitted in an interview that of the two HC interviews he had (UM and Ark), he was only a legitimate candidate at one of them. Considering UM was pursuing (maybe) Miles, Ferentz, Schiano, and RR and Arkansas was about to hire Muschamp before Petrino surprisingly bolted, my guess is the only legit RE intervew was at Arkansas. All of which is to say that folks are right — there was no way RE was gonna stay.
Don't know a thing about Schafer. But it's an amusing coincidence that he joins UM after Harbaughs UM comments.
I don't consider Colorado as geographically a part of the West Coast. The Rockies (or the Four Corners) are a genre unto themselves. I was simply saying that I assume Colorado is in the jurisdiction of the coach who handles West Coast recruiting. Is that a fair assumption?
FIRST!!!
English will be good someday. That doesn't change the fact that he was a good, and NOT great DC, and that he had a serious inability to stop the spread. Florida likely did not change that for the future.
I'm happy with the hire. This guy is young, aggressive, and has Ohio AND Cali ties.
Uh....Stanford......really?
Recommended article: http://findarticles.com/p/articl...10/
ai_n19478762
I thought it was a hoot the way Harbaugh found this guy.
Brandent Engelmon is training for the combine with Joe DeFranco.
http://asp.elitefts.com/qa/defau...qid=65684&
tid=4
I can't believe he didn't want Gittelson to get him in shape.
"Colorado's about as much a part of the west coast as Ohio is a part of the east coast."
Any east coast snob/respectable human reading these comments just threw up in his mouth a little.
VOR--that news means nothing to me in terms of Pryor. Mallett's transfer could tell you the same thing, and besides, Ohio State's non-Pryor QB of the future is Antonio Henton.
Stanford?
I think English tried to implement too much too fast this year. Last year was his first as a DC, right? Two years ago he had great success, primarly because of the beasts UM had up front. This season he was vocal about bringing in more defensive alignments and schemes, without thinking about the inexperience (and inferior skill) of some of the new players, particularly in the secondary and at LB. I think he will be a good coach, but it looks like we have good people coming in, so I'm not worried.
Jay:
What about Dewayne Walker at UCLA, are you implying that he has no pride since he was the interim coach for the bowl game, interviewed for the head coach job, interviewed elsewhere, and ended up staying at UCLA.
I agree it would have been awkward, and I can understand going in a different direction, but I dont think it was completely impossible to keep RE even with RR as head coach.
I bet the reason RR didn't want to hire Ron English is that he though he could hire someone better for the job -- that simple.
like i said... just about any odd man front, 3-3 3-4 5-3 or 5-2 can be refered to as "okie" when you cover up the center... see the slant 50 of the bo years....
@ DetUMICH
RE record Vs notre shame: 2-0.
the new guy's record: 0-1
yeah.
We will miss Ron English. We would not be talking about his inability to defend the spread if people like Jai Eugene and Justin King had not decommited. The young defense improved dramatically throught the year, and was also dominant last year outside of the lack of depth in the secondary.
huh.....Stanford. The same Stanford that despite one incredible upset of USC that proves, like app. st., everyone can get lucky, the same Stanford that has been one of the standards for futility in D-1A football for quie a while? Really..........Stanford?
If it was such a dominant D, how did Wisconsin chew us apart on the ground?
How did MSU chew us up in the second half?
Good point Bill. Those decommits hurt, a lot. King more than Eugene since Jai is used sparingly this year and I don't think has developed as quickly as hoped. LSU is a lot deeper than PSU or UM so part of it may be the crazy talent everywhere on that D.
Ha! Get it! He's from Stanford!! They SUCK at football, ergo, he must suck!! No good coaches ever come from shitty teams!!!11!!
1978 Air Force Falcons
3-8
HC: Bill Parcells
It was his only season there.
You HAD to replace a black coach with a white one, didn't you?
" dont freak people, its not x's and o's its jimmies and joes..."
nice. the calming coach-speak of gsimmons. I'm down with that.
i try willie, i try....
Technicality: King never committed, though UM was considered the heavy front runner at one point.
what's Score-O?
Since we have hired HRG as our DC, do we get the Cheerleader as well?
If he brings his aggressive style (all those sacks with shitty talent) I'll be happy. So what if his name is not Tenuta, I'd rather see our defense go down swinging than sitting back in a soft zone. Sounds just like the change we saw with English right? RE brought a more aggressive scheme and it sounds like Shafer does as well. Probably 1/2 a dozen of one, six of the other type of thing.
Looks more like Max Headroom than a Bond villain, IMO.
http://www.splatt.com.au/blog/
bl...MaxHeadroom.jpg
Also, Stanford = Bill Walsh, so you are right, no good coaches.
stop looking at stanford. he was there for 1 freaking year. he's not responsible for that program's success over the last 30 years. jeesus.
the most impressive part of his resume is NIU, imo...i recall them being a very good team w/ that little RB who went for 2000 yrds one year. Novac was an old Bo disciple i think. it was straight up shocking to see a run-based proset offensive team have so much success in the MAC. usually it's crazy spread teams w/ really good QBs (MU-not as much of a spread but..., UT, BG, WMU, CMU). now, i know that a big part of it was the D- and this guy was the architect.
i'd love to see a break down of the recruiting regions each coach will be assigned to...or at least who will lead w/ instate, out west, OH, WPa
Obama--- Debord was swapped with MacGee, rest easy.
Not sure why people are talking about his west coast connections. He's an Ohio guy, recruited Ohio, and spent less than one year at Stanford.
He was a Croyles Finalist at WMU, which is nice.
(Magee..)
I'm not saying he's not a good coach. I'm just wondering what he did to attract attention. It's not like the first place I'd look for a coach (especially if I'm at a program like Michigan) is a perennial losing team. Hopefully, he turns into a diamond that came from the rough, but can you fault me for being skeptical if he's from Stanford?
He came here for the academics.
Rob Schoenhoft got his panties in a bunch over being "moved to tight end" in favor of Henton as the backup QB. Probably just a coaching maneuver by the Vest to confuse the Hat.
Schoenhoft: "I was a little upset and disappointed," he said. "But it's a temporary thing; I'm still preparing as a quarterback. We've all worked way too long for me to mope around. … It would do my teammates an injustice."
He was at Stanford LESS THAN ONE YEAR, PEOPLE!
re: Shafer's success at run vs. pass
A lot of times teams w/ very good rush defenses end up giving up a healthy amount of pass yards simply b/c their opponents abandon the run and throw the ball all game long. Maybe this is true w/ Shafer...
(Broyles)
Wow. A Buckeye using words like "injustice." Color me impressed!
Rob-Also, Stanford = Bill Walsh, so you are right, no good coaches
I think Stanford was a little better team then than they are now. Look, I hope I'm wrong and he turns our D into animals, but I reserve the right to be skeptical until he does.
Shafer's performance at Northern Illinois seems impressive actually.
blue rage,
i think the point is that, he isnt FROM stanford, he worked there for one year, for a new dynamic coach that is attracting a lot of attention...
he seems to have a good grasp on the fundamentals, ran acrross a standford article back in the spring where he was talking about how importatn tackling in practice is, good stuff...
I am not too worried about the pass D because I think it's harder to get consistent and deep secondary talent at mid-majors while LBs and DL are a little more abundant and easier to develop. You can't teach speed, but you can teach how to blitz and tackle. He will have better talent in the secondary here than he has ever had anywhere else. And to reiterate the theme of a few posters, One year at Stanford, no ties to the school, only a promotion from WMU to a kind-of BCS school.
ColsWolv--So you don't think Schoenhoft will transfer? I do.
rob- right, sorry, typing too fast
gsimmons- my point is not that he is from Stanford, it is that he's not really experienced what it's like in the big time other than a game or two against the USC's and Oregon's of the Pac-10. Maybe he does seem to have a grasp of the fundamentals, but at the winningest program in college football history, don't you think we should try to get one we know does?
where's topher when you need him? he's all over the stanford program. come back from the lower threads, man!
the thing to like is his aggressiveness on D....blitzing lots.
look at the pass D under him...passD is almost always worse than the run D under him (pass eff #s are scary bad until his last year in a program).....usually by a wide margin. this i think correlates well w/ the sack #s. the reason is he's blitz crazy....like blitz batshite crazy. dude brings the house, apparently. with the corners we have, i think we might be able to afford to put them on a island a little more often w/ good success.
Voice,
I think the point is that Schoenhoft transferring means very little. He's third on the depth chart to Boeckman (who has two more years of eligibility) and Henton (who has three), and he only has two years of eligibility left.
If he wants to play with their current situation, he'd have to leave. I hardly think Pryor plays any part in that, when he can't break through the depth chart against guys who aren't nearly as talented as Pryor.
Boston,
Actually, Boeckman only has one more year of eligibility, whereas Schoenhoft has two. So as long as he can beat out Henton in '09 (and he already did that this year), the starting job's his (assuming no Pryor).
Blue Rage- so you are saying the tallent at Stanford made Walsh?
blue rage,
so what you are sayign is that the coaches at the biggest schools, are the ones that know fundamentals the best?
where was RR before WVU?
young gifted smart coaches rarely get a chance at major colleges like michigan for the very reason you are giving... I guarntee you he would not have been hired if he wasnt an awesome coach. RR is not about tradition, he is about winning. and that is what we were all crying for. Its been my experience that most bigh time prgrams (like i have said) dont give enough effort in regards to higher the best "coaches" because of the opinion that if we can get great recruits we dont need to coach them. It will be greast to see michigan players playing with great technique, like they use too....
"We consider ourselves an attack 4-3, a college 4-3," Shafer said. "It's a nine-man front. The philosophy is to stop the run, force the pass and then create turnovers and sacks. It's as simple as that."
damn
Don't know if Schoenhoft will tranfer, pretty sure it has little to do with TP if he does. There is a lot of buzz about Henton. Schoenhoft could easily be lost in the shuffle with only two years left and a clear desire to develop Henton as the next quarterback. Now if Henton decides to transfer, UM says adios to TP...
Rob, no I'm not saying the talent at Stanford made Bill Walsh. I AM saying that Bill Walsh made Stanford pretty good, though. That being said, do we really see where this guy made anyone noticeably better? That's my point, did he make anyone better? I think Walsh had some Super Bowl rings when he coached Stanford, so apples and oranges on Walsh anyway.
thought someone said he was a 3-4 guy... i know he use to be a 3-4 guy
blue rage,
didnt someone just give statistics about how much better the D was when he was DC? every where that he has been...
Re: Recruiting/Regional Concerns
Folks, don't forget about Chris Singletary and the rest of the recruiting staff. First, let me admit my bias. I've known Chris practically my entire life. Although he is relatively new to the position, he represents a connection to the former regime, the '97 NC, and is relatively young. If you watch the sidelines closely, Chris has a great relationship with the players because he played a large role in bringing them in. Once we identify our target recruits, Chris is likely the one that remains in constant contact with them (especially during the season when coaches have their hands full). Brandon Smith was quoted that Chris was the person that stayed in his ear about committing despite the coaching change. Point being, we have the addded benefit of having a recruiting coordinator, which should eliminate any concerns that our new coaches lack certain regional connections. This was one of the reasons RR left WV.
blue rage,
did you read this?
It's worth noting that Shafer's final year at NIU was their apex, the 10-2 season where they beat Maryland and Alabama to open the year. Maryland would finish 10-3 and sport the #27 scoring offense (#28 in yardage); NIU held them to 13 points. Alabama was much crappier at 4-9 but NIU held them to 16 points, fewer than any team save LSU and Oklahoma. Those two would meet in the (sorta) national championship game at year's end.
i would say he has experience playing some top teams...
Old man simmons, you are cracking me up. please stop, please.
someone wanna tell me who this obama joker is, and why he keeps talking to me?
How does Boeckman have a year of eligibility left? He's been with them for like 5 years, even with a redshirt and "grayshirt."
Oh, and Antonio "ten dolla" Henton is too busy knockin up street walkers to play QB
if this place turns into a flamner station like mlive has turned into, i wont post here ..
promise you that...
Obama? I didn't see anybody named Obama. Anybody else see a poster named Obama?
hey simmons, you are the clown here. calling maryland and alabama "top teams". give me a break. you know anything at all about CFB?
obvioulsy not obama....
i stand corrected
gsimmons85, re: 3-4 vs 4-3 - he made that 3-4 video while at wmu, but ran 4-3 at stanford with an okie nickel package
so who knows what he'll do
what are you, frightening us simmons? we are not losing anything if you don't post. I'd rather have 00goblue00 and chunks the hobo.
"We consider ourselves an attack 4-3, a college 4-3," Shafer said. "It's a nine-man front. The philosophy is to stop the run, force the pass and then create turnovers and sacks. It's as simple as that."
oooo, when a DC uses the word "attack" it makes me all tingly. Not used often enough in our D over the last few years, some occasional exceptions notwithstanding.
And Obama, don't you have a campaign to run, money to raise, contributors to kiss?
why the hate obama? dont remember every saying anything that would cause someone to hate me so much, but whatever...
Calm down folks, it the D-Coordinator not your mothers were talking about. Don't let an argument over Stanford be the reason this board turns into a shit show.
All harbaugh needs now is a swift kick in the nuts
thanks bsb....
did i answer your question about the okie well enough?
as Don suggests, i'm off to my campaign - which ain't runnng well these days. i think the woman will get the bid. and then lose to the tories. damn.
Obama = Michigan Man = Frank = elnolewis
We're through the looking glass, people.
Don't wanna get in the middle here, but I will say that gsimmons, as long as I can remember, has been one of the most cohesive, intelligent, halfway-freaking-normal posters on this board.
gsimmons, yeah i think i got it now. thanks
Dex - maybe, but neither Obama nor Michigan man have made nearly enough "chimp" references.
It's an attempt to throw off the scent.
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YES
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gsimmons85 is the man
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Tsar of the 3-3-5 stack
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Leader of the Grobe mafia
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don't feed the trolls dude!
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YES
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I do not care if he runs a 3-4 or a 4-3... I just care if they are in proper position and can tackle. This years team was the worst tacking M team I remember since, well at least 2005! Technique, technique, technique...
"We're an attack defense, schemes are overrated," Shafer said of his style.
wow...no more comcast local...that was the one reason i considered keeping cable. they show lots of CCHA hockey (esp UM). just more opportunity for the BTN to carry M hockey.
I woudlhave to agree with that comment JB... Too much thinking makes you slow! Go get'em!
only reason i want him to run the 3-4 is because i can get all my old slant 50 stuff from past michigan teams defensive playbooks and basicly be looking at the current defense... then i wont have to say things like "well i think player A should have tackled this" when brian asks me stuff, ill know for sure.... if the 3-3 is my pet defense the slant 50 (3-4 OKIE) is my bible...
I come here for gsimmons posts (and a few others).
I post rarely because of people like OBAMA etc.
Less thinkin'! More hittin'!
guys thanks for the vote of confidence, love our conversations, and look forward to us all sitting down and tlaking football sometime... guess i just didnt know who this character was, and why he was tlaking to me like that, it has happend several times before...
Who the heck are frank and elnolewis? Michigan Man, now I have seen his posts, and don't care much for him.
"If you're going to (ask) what our objectives are? The one thing we want to do is stop the run, force them to throw the ball on first down, create negative plays on first down ... and get ourselves in position to force them to throw the ball. Get them one-diminsional. We don't want to be a defense that sits back. We want to be a defense that creates turnovers and scores touchdowns. Lead the conference in sacks, interceptions and defensive scores. That's how it's always been everywhere I've coached and how it will be at Michigan."
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/
...ed_as_mich.html
Does anyone know if the Big 10 network is going to come to an agreement with Time Warner? I'm in NYC and can't take another season of having to scramble to find a bar showing the game.
So is he saying we will NOT have a decided schematic advantage over our opponents?
He must not be a Super Football Genius.
thats awesome MRG... wow i said stuff like that to our defense every wednesday, after defensive team....
make them afraid of what you are going to do..... be the best in the conference.... make the offense adjust... gosh i wish it was football season.. im fired up now....
This guy's philosophy is inspiring. I hope it comes to fruition. Based on what I know, I like the hire.
I like the mix. RR blood at several positions, a little Michigan blood with Jackson & new young blood with Hopson & Shafer. Enough RR system to ensure continuity and enough new blood to keep ideas fresh. It looks like RR is thinking of evolving the WV defense to accomodate Michigan talent.
One thing I think people are overlooking: this is going to be a stunning recruiting staff. Young, aggressive stud coaches out the wazoo. We are going to see a top 5 recruiting class next year, that's for sure.
Wait, wait, wait... are we proposing that we are going to be aggressive on offense AND defense in the future? We must be being lied to.
Dave - Mike Martz is allegedly a "Super Football Genius"...
Excuse me, OBAMA, but I don't care that you don't care about me. And, stop attacking gsimmons. As I mentioned yesterday, he's one of the only 3 guys on these comments that I like.
Who knows more about selecting good football coaches, Rich Rodriguez or all of you doubters? Right. So relax.
great point someone made about how our speedier recruits will make his pass D better. sure he's never had much talent to work with there.
i was always screaming for more blitzes. now maybe our blitz happy recruits will stick around.
GO BLUE
love that he's from stanford tee hee
gsimm- where do you coach if you can say, or better yet where did you play
i want to hit somebody
MRG, I just...uh...had an event...uh...in the car upon reading that. I need Kleenex.
I don't think you can judge a coach like this until he has the chance to coach at a school that has football talent. I expect him to be a very good DC, and i'm sure RR does as well hence the hire.
The argument that "Stanford's D was last in pass defense" bla bla bla... Is a weak argument. You can't make chicken soup out of chicken sh!t.
Stop me before I blitz again!!
Time Warner has been pretty stubborn about the BTN. I very easily solved the problem with DirectTV and never looked back. Not sure why others have not done the same...
RRod was wearing one of the yellow M hockey jerseys at his presser today. Awesome.
THE KNOWLEDGE IS BACK!! At the same time as MICHIGAN MAN! Ahhhhh! I am confused.
I could make some shitty chicken soup.
Is the presser posted somewhere?
head coach was in here this morning, he was tlaking to me about personall aparently a guy that was dc at another school and was requested by the new dc at UNC to be hired as a grad assistant is applying for a job at my school... coach was like, so g what do you think. i was like, it sound like he is a good one, he was like what do you want him to coach i said, i thought he was applying for the dc. coach said, "what are you leaving?, i told him i have my dc, and he acted like, duh everyone knows that simmons is your dc"...
made me feel like maybe i am getting a pretty good reputation around here... and have found a home
just a little warm fuzziness for you guys!!!
Is anyone else drinking at work?
sweet found it at mgoblue.
@dex,
Just the koolaid man.
cougar, harding university
im dc at a 4-a school in nc... in greensboro
dex, I'm hopped up on my third COKE ZERO. Hardcore all the way.
I was posing as THE KNOWLEDGE. he hasn't been around these parts lately.
I played at Concordia Chicago- good luck- not in coaching but someday maybe!
a little off topic for this thread, but this is where the actions at...
the best things about those videos a few posts down is how he explains the OL blocking schemes. VERY SIMPLE. block left, block right. hit the guy nearest you. if there's no man there, go to the 2nd level (unless it's a pass play). no more complex calls at the line..no more doubling and scoop/handoff blocking that leads to confusion about just who is doing the scooping. this, plus the S&C program should let the OL flourish in 08. even w/o long, et al. how many days till 8/30?
It's all talk for now, but it sure sounds good.
To expand on MDan's point, don't forget the monster recruiting classes that ND and OSU are putting together this year. I think that will help UM next year.
Anyone else "tickled to death"?
Ill second the ?? JB asked about Time Warner and BTN. Those of us who live in apts cant get DirectTV....
Anyone know if TW will get BTN?
I am laughing heartily (sp?)
I hate Comcast/TW. I wish I can get DirectTV; but alas, I live in the Willowtree Apartments, and we can't have cable here. Blast!
I find it pretty amusing that:
1) Some people considered Harbaugh as a possibility for Head Coach yet we think his DC isn't worthy? and
2) Dismiss Stanford as not being big-time but think that Wake Forest and GA Tech are so much more impressive.
Geez, the guy seems like he has a decent resume and is not an obvious choice so he presumably attacted interest based on actual accomplishments/talents.
anyone looking to get rid of any hockey tickets tonight?
I think this is great hire! Excellent DC and OC with great positional coaches. I am very pumped for next year...and tonight because I am going to the hockey game
MLive has an audio link up. They indicate that Shafer reveals Harbaugh's reaction to taking the UM DC job. Can anyone summarize the reaction? Can't listen to it right now, but I'm curiouser that I probably should be.
I need to make a note about the Stanford stats: Shafer's D was poorer against the pass than the year before. This does not mean what you might think. In 2006 Stanford's run defense sucked...soo...bad. The teams Stanford played stuck with the ground game and didn't have to go to the air, thereford the passing statistics are deflated. And since games were blowouts and often over before halftime, lots more running came in the second half as a clock-eating measure. The only team that really lit up the passing scoreboard was USC.
The following season (2007) brought an altogether improved Stanford team which was in games a lot longer and more often. Shafer also played a riskier style, with more blitzing and risky coverages, which sometimes led to big plays through the air (since let's be honest, Stanford's overall defensive talent is not as high as a USC or LSU who can play those schemes and still expect to not get burned.)
Shafer's defense was actually much more competent than the "don't get beat" passive scheme of the season before. Also the DB's he coached became very good football players.
Too bad about the DirectTV block. Haven't heard any news on TWC v. BTN for some time. They are still advertising all the CBB games to seen on TWC. Seems like both OSU and UM have been playing a lot on BTN this season. Again, if it's an option, simplest way out of this mess is a switch to DirectTV.
"Jim was a Michigan Man, and he understands why I came."
DanK- 100% agree with you. I think we will see a lot of improvement in players this year that we thought didnt look all that great. Guys like Schilling, Butler, Ezeh, Thompson, etc will all get a ton better over the off season, IMO. S&C will make the team all leaner, meaner, higher endurance, stronger, etc. and the coaching, IMO, will have "fast players playing fast". I think there will be less confusion and more results.
We won't be the best team next year, but we will be a team that is performing more to the caliber that it should be performing on.
This year we were a 13-0, 12-1, 11-2 team that performed to a 9-4 record.
Next year we might be a 9-4 team that performs to that level or exceeds it. IMO
The only real concern at this point is fast these guys can get the boys on the field ready. There is a hel of a lot of teaching and learning to be done between now and August 30.
I hope they implement things in stages, starting with basic things that aren't terribly sophisticated, but can be executed cleanly. I don't want to see an overload of theory without execution like a certain coach in South Bend pulled last year.
He said that Jim "was" a Michigan man? That's, umm ... interesting.
Kurt - I don't see what you're saying. Wake foreast has won 19 games in the past 2 years. Stanford has won 4. Why would you compare the two?
long-ass audio clip
gsimmons - great news! We should all be so happy with our employment....
Tennblue - in his quote, Shafer basically says that schemes don't matter shit, it's execution. So I'm not sure how much "learning" will be required to run what he does (aside from learning how to tackle, Mr. Warren...)
I hope Nick Perry sees Schafer's quotes and envisions himself with all those sacks...and that Mike Martin sees that he'll be a run stuffer which NFL teams love from DTs
Tenn, Weis made 4 stars into two stars...RR made two stars into four stars.
I think Shafer looks like a young Red Berenson in that photo.
"I don't think anyone should predict ending up at Michigan. I think everyone should dream about ending up at Michigan."
I hate when people do this, but it'll take me 100 years trying to sift through the posts and see if anyone posted this but here's a link on Schaffer from MLive: http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/
...ed_as_mich.html
gsimmons will really appreciate this quote: ""Scheme is overrated, I've always believed that," Shafer said. "What's not overrated is getting your kids to play with great effort, great attitude and great enthusiasm. Those are things we can control on a daily basis, and that will be my primary goal. ... The philosophy of our defense is attack-oriented, attack and react. We want to be a defense this is multiple, that is always putting pressure and forcing the hand of the offense. We want to be a penetrating defense."
gsimmons - my bro-in-law is an OC in Greensboro at a 3-A HS. I am glad you like it there. It sure is a growing city, much different from when I lived there. I look forward to more of your football knowledge.
"Also also, as you can see above, he kind of looks like a Bond villain."
Ha, that was exactly what I was thinking! He looks like Dr. No. He seems like a good hire.
nc where is he?
im at northwest guilford...
DANK..
you do realize that the blocking scheme he was tlakinga bout is what michigan has been doing hte past 2 seasons... the idea of zone blocking is man on or off the los.... i mean he was talking about zone read... we ran the zone stretch, so really it isnt a new concept for our olinmen, which means they should pick up on it real fast....
Wolfgang?
Shafer?
Obviously some teutonic familial background.
I think he will do an excellent job at Michigan with the Wolverine's talent pool and recruits. So the offense might not be the only fireworks on Saturdays at Michigan.
Wait a minutes! You mean, both sides of the ball might actually
be attacking the opponent with the intention to score touchdowns!??!
Holy cow, I think we might all have to collectively pinch ourselves. Is this really 2008 Michigan football or 1976 Michigan football?
now i understand why i like this higher, he sounds a lot like the kinds of things i have been telling your guys.... gah i should have applied..... then you guys would have a field day with my resume....
gsim - your 'rival'... at least historically, Western.
i still say the chimp was the right man for the job
The dude kinda looks like Fred Dryer from the '80's show Hunter. IMO.
@OBAMA
you don't need to harass people all you do is lose votes. BTW i prefer the woman. of course, if you'd blow me i might change my vote.
gsims- it's hire not higher- and don't tell me it's a typo.
chunks- blow yourself
gsimmons85..i'm talking about the scoop blocking stuff. i'm not aware of spread option teams running that kind of scheme on the OL.
sure, they are both zone based OL blocking schemes, but i really think that pulling an OL-man (the 'bootleg' RR talked about is what i learned as a 'counter trey') is easier than those combo/scoop/hand-off blocks M uses. M never pulled an OL this year that i noticed, and it looks like RR never used those combo blocks.
"looks like a Bond villain..."
Heh. That's quite funny.
He looks like the dad with the horn rimmed glasses from Heroes.
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