Man, I feel dumber just reading that.
Not because it was poorly written or lacked good information...but probably because I don't think I'd be able to hack that Astro 111 class.
Astro 111...yes, man I loved that class, mainly because it was like high school redux
although, in my experience, there were tons of non-athletes who struggled mightily in there...which just boggles the mind
i guess my point is that there are plenty of non-athletes whose intelligence i question as well
Brian continues to articulate what I stumble through. Well done.
well that was hard to find....below two posts. lol
im confused...
its like im in a time warp, or am i?
someone help... just point me to the line of scrimage...
I remember Theron, he played on those great Eastern Michigan teams with boykins, tolbert, dial, head. that was a damn fine squad.
Heh, as both the proud holder of a doctorate in Astronomy from Michigan, and a veteran of several semesters of TA'ing various Astronomy-for-the-masses courses I can tell you that
a) I had many students who struggled mightily in Astr 1-whatever (damn that algebra!), and
b) I actually never had a football player in my recitation section.
ah well, i would have enjoyed chatting astronomy with Jamie Morris and Greg Skrepenak....
I find it rather odd that the AA News is levelling the charge that admitting athletes who wouldn't normally meet the admissions standards, while defending the admissions practices of affirmative action where minorities were admitted even though they didn't always meet normal admissions standards.
Astro 111? Why didn't i know about this? I did, however, indulge in Oceans. Not to be confused with Oceanography, which was somewhat difficult.
This is like the meat in an old post/random anecdotes sandwich. Yummy meat.
ive never read spin like this in my life. bgobots rag on those 'lower' schools down south for the nonsense they pull with academic fraud, but then when UM does it...somehow it's god's work? saving kids from the gheto?
what you are talking about, letting kids not take classes and play football, thats 'minor leagues', not college football. ive always thought there should be a minor league but its not going to make $ so it doesn't exist...instead we are left to lie to ourselves about how college sports are and spin negative actions by our schools.
also, saying that every single school does this "show up for 15 minutes every two weeks and get an A" thing is pretty ignorent. shades of gray, yes, but the same thing, no?
another very dangerious risk of what you are implying, that athletes should be allowed to cheat in school, is that the ones that do try hard, the smart ones who gets As they deserve, get grouped in with the "well he/shes an athlete so their degree is obviously bullsh*t"
as that stupid comercial goes, 99% of athletes, the ones you are recomending be allowed to earn "degrees*" will rely on that degree to get a job...
Don't get me wrong, I loved the Astronomy class and I learned a lot (some obviously don't), but it was an easy class...it is what it claims to be, an intro astronomy class for non-science concentrators (read: people trolling for A's)
This has become a big circle jerk about U of M compared to other academic institutions and what an "education" really means.
I mean, I was interested initially, but now I could really care less. Gabe Watson is no different than a music student wanting to avoid classes that aren't music related -- in fact, as Brian mentioned, Gabe doesn't even get credit for his 40+ hours per week spent learning and playing the game of football.
No wrongdoing.
No tarnish on Michigan's academic reputation.
No story.
Now how about some Spring football!!
agreed, none of this stuff is big news...i was expecting something much worse for all the hoopla
thank god this didn't come out during a slow news cycle, what with march madness and all
I believe the university should be concerned with not only graduating all students but in a manner that will help them later in life.
Most football players come to U of M believing they can make the pro's and become instant millionare. Nothing could be further from the truth. Only a small % of players make it to the big time.
The amount of time the athlete puts into his or her sport cuts into their time for academics. Tutor them, guide them, for goodness sake teach them something they will be able to use beyond using a Franklin Planner!
What's all the arguing about. UM is a great institution, but who needs it when I can write my own ticket with Theron Wilson's can't miss video 'business'...genius!
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