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Sarah Palin's "baby" was delivered by Cathy Baldwin-Johnson

It might explain why she travelled for over 12 hours and bypassed other hospitals to get home to Wasilla. She had a friend who could help her cover it up.


Gravatar Excellent points, but one you missed: with all of the easy and obvious ways that the baby-gate rumor could have be quashed, Sarah Palin chooses to try to quash it by publicly airing her daughter's deepest, most private secret? (Assuming that Bristol really is pregnant now. My guess is that she's either


Gravatar Unfortunately we won't find out for months whether she is really 5 months pregnant. I predict one of two things:

1. If Bristol is really pregnant now, she won't give birth for about 5-6 months. This means she could still be the mother of 4 month old Trig and her new baby.
2. She isn't pregnant now, and sometime after the election, she will have a "miscarriage" and we won't find out the truth unless someone at Mat-Su comes forward.


Gravatar Hmmm, Bugsoup, on the second comment. And, for anybody else who posts to this thread, the r. Balwin-Johnson from Bugsoup's first-post link could cover up a variety of things.

That said, if a PDF WERE produced, now, I'd be looking at it with a skeptical eye.


Gravatar I found this site from the Governor's Association that has a picture of Palin less than 2 months before she "gave birth"....doesn't look pregnant at all.

http://www.nga.org/portal/site/ n...0001a01010aRCRD


Gravatar This is going to sound cynical, but is it possible that Trig doesn't even have Downs? Let me explain why I suggest that. We know that one of the McCain-Palin strategies is to play the "mother of 5" card while simulaneously wanting her family and any decisions about her family to be ignored. Having cake and eating it is not off the table for this woman. She seems to have been brought into the campaign for specific strategic reasons, one of which is as a very strict anti-choice woman who's actually had to make that choice herself. I don't think it's beyond her to exploit the baby (after all, she's already thrown her oldest daughter to the wolves).


Gravatar Bugsoup, WOW, but no, that wouldn't totally surprise me, either.

A teaser for tonight... my take on the Enquirer's affair allegations will be part of the Palin Day 6 roundup.

Patrick, NO, for 7-months plus, she doesn't look very pregnant. I'll jump that link to the main body.


Gravatar Trig has downs, that is very easy to see. But I agree on every other aspect. Bristol is so in love that child, she gloves. She acts like a lovely mother, very different from a nice elder sister.


Gravatar It doesn't really matter if they show a birth certificate. Her friend delivered the baby in a small town regional hospital in the middle of the night and she was the governor.


Gravatar Isn't it amazing how pregnant Bristol looks at 5 months? Any woman who has given birth to more than one child, knows that each subsequent pregnancy shows more and sooner than the first. I find it hard to ignore that Sarah was not showing at seven months, with what would be her fifth child?


Gravatar Untrue, J. The Gov said she flew past Alaska hospitals to Mat-Su Regional, re the hospital's link.

Also, I believe a birth certificate is supposed to have at least some details of parentage, unless Dr. Balwin-Johnson wants to commit fraud. Of course, at this stage of the game, not even that would surprise me.


Gravatar APPAULED! WHITE HOUSE COVER UP??!!

Based on the PICTURE of SARAH PALIN ON FEB. 25th TELLS ME that EVERY WHITE HOUSE MEMBER shown on this PICTURE is aware of this FALSE PREGNANCY. NOT ONE PERSON has come forward with the TRUTH...INCLUDING PRESIDENT BUSH and GOV. ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER! NO MORE COVER UPS, NO MORE LIES.

WE THE PEOPLE


Gravatar We've got it all...

://www.politicalbase.com/profile/jnail/blog/& blogId=3587


Gravatar No one has mentioned that the photo you show on this page IS NOT the same as the 2008 NGA photo that's accessible in high resolution. Look at the left side of Gov. Palin's dress around her waist: in the smaller image it show some of the steps in the background and Palin looks slimmer. In the high-res version this see-through is missing, and as a result she looks a bit heavier. This is either another frame from the same photo shoot or a quick Photoshop touch-up to make Gov. Palin look more pregnant. You decide for yourself...


Gravatar Well, I just saw the exploited baby during the RNC (including closeups of his face) and I would say that my last comment is probably wrong. The baby they had on stage looks like he has Downs.

@RealityCheck, I see what you mean with those two photos. They look to be two different pictures, though. I think they were taken at different angles. Take a look at the lantern at the top, the right edge of the lineup, and the reflections in the windows in each.


Gravatar http://www.palinbycomparison.net


Gravatar Bugsoup, you're right. It's the same pose, different photographers from different angles.

The official NGA photo was a HUGE file size, and I didn't want some honker that big cluttering up the page and download speed.

I don't think this is a conspiracy theory... the photo actually on the blogpost here is from MSNBC, not some winger outfit.


Gravatar Its fainally here. The mess has begun. http://bristolpalin.com has kept my phone off the hook for the last week. Obama is looking to squeeze that and all her kids domain names into links to his campaign. He wanted us to transfer links etc to his site and say is this what you want for the next generation. I tell yuou between taht and trigpalin.com or http://trigpalin.com and the rest of the siblings someone is going to win this election if its not mccain or obama...it may as well be me


Gravatar This is low ball politics. Sarah Palin is a liar and would eat her own young to get what she wants. This time she is giving her children to the media for dinner. A paternity test should be demanded by the American people. Vetting? When need to do our own vetting. We will be the ones to pay her salary and suffer because of her decisions.


Gravatar Genesis, well put. The MSM is doing half a job on other issues, but, like I've said before, the GOP has made "ANTIPRIVACY" a campaign issue for decades now. The MSM should be grilling her more.

Let's not forget the Enquirer affair story, too.


Gravatar Two points I'd like to add... most women tend to deliver very quickly after numerous children, i.e., labor and delivery go very quickly, especially by the 5th kid, and a small one (6 lb) like that, would have probably delivered very quickly... how did she make it 12 hours in labor without giving birth on the plane?

Secondly, what was she doing flying in her 3rd trimester anyway? What doctor lets you do that? And what conscientous woman in a high risk pregnancy would even WANT to do that? She was high risk because she is > 40 AND carrying a "special needs" baby.


Gravatar Christi

Assuming she was actually pregnant, what she was attempting with her extended travel while in labor with a special needs baby is sometimes called a "fundy abortion". Since she's morally trapped by her beliefs, she thinks she can let God figure it out. Ironically, it's a pragmatic solution to a dogmatic problem.


Gravatar Bugsoup, good one! I've never heard that one before. So, if it was her baby, was she out moose hunting or snowmobiling at seven months.


Gravatar If she was out hunting or snowmobiling at seven months, I hope to see pictures very soon.


Gravatar Maybe Uncle Fester is giving her shotgun lessons and that's why she's holed up right now.


Gravatar Something is very fishy here. If I were running for dogcatcher and people wanted to see my birth certificate, it's right here in a drawer and would be produced in a couple of hours. I could obtain my son's and grandchildrens' with a couple of weeks and I'm no one. If I were a governor, I could get them yesterday.

This is not difficult or any more intrusive than producing their tax filings (I'd consider it less intrusive).

Why is this a big mystery? The only sensible answer is that they are covering up something very dirty.

The worst part is that these nasty, neocons want to win so badly they are trying once again steal an election by lying, cheating, and covering up. They're ruining our country people.


Gravatar Our Okie skeptic is damn straight.


Gravatar Come on people, the baby has DOWN'S SYNDROME, a defect common in OLDER parents, not 17 year old girls. Get a life


Gravatar DWHarper,
Maybe you aren't aware of it, but the majority of DOWNS SYNDROME babies are born to people under 30.

So while it is common in OLDER parents, it happens to 17 year old girls as well.


Gravatar "It doesn't really matter if they show a birth certificate. Her friend delivered the baby in a small town regional hospital in the middle of the night and she was the governor."

True, so why are they hiding it?


Gravatar DR, thabnks for making the point for me.

Nice try, DW.

Oh, the Enquirer, in case you weren't too bored to look when you were at the supermarket, has a follow-up to its story on the affair Mayor Whazzup had with First Dude's best friend.


Gravatar You should check out this website, by a Republican childbirth educator, which is the most thorough and extensive analysis of Babygate I've seen (And believe me, I've surfed a LOT on this!).

http://www.palindeception.com


Gravatar Here's another website that is collecting and publishing information about this Trig parentage question:

http://www.geocities.com/ palinba...linbabyquestion


Gravatar Hey, PBQ, thanks for the link; it will go in the body, too.


Gravatar There are only four OB/GYNs listed at the Matsu Hospital website. Have the press contacted them to find out which one was the governor's physician?

OB/GYN
Peggy Downing, MD 907-357-4963
D. Glen Elrod, MD 907-746-7747
Ellen Faucett, DO 907-357-4963
Michael Fitzgerald, MD 907-746-7747


Gravatar Shash, that's a damn good question. I'm sure the answer is no, unfortunately, at least among the "MSM." Maybe the Enquirer will nose around?


Gravatar Palin's baby was delivered by Cathy Baldwin-Johnson, a family practice doctor was given nominated by Mayor Palin for a national award and later became a Governor Palin political appointee. She does not deliver high risk babies; this one was an exception. She has privileges at a larger Anchorage hospital that has a neo-natal ICU. Palin passed by that hospital in her mad rush to get to Wasilla. Baldwin-Johnson made an ambiguous statement to the press the day the baby was born and never spoke of it again. She has been dropped from the staff of Mat-Su Hospital and no one knows where she is.


Gravatar Maggie, per BugSoup higher on the comments, it's all possibly part of a cover-up.


Gravatar I do not get the renewed infatuation with Palin.It's "All Palin,all the time" on CNN.I hope these investigations lead to something of substance,and reveal Palin for the sham she is.


Gravatar Just a quick housekeeping update if you're interested - the Palin Baby Question website now has a direct address

www.palinbabyquestion.com

so you don't have to go through the re-direct via the geocities site.

Thanks!


Gravatar Hey, instead of a birth certificate, why not call for a simple blood test. Personally, I don't think it's anyone's business, and I also think Trig is Sarah's son. Why do you people even care? It's not a political issue!

You are so hell-bent on discrediting her (which won't happen) but I don't see any of you asking for Obama's birth certificate! But then again, that would be terrible to question your god, wouldn't it! LOL! You'll find his birth certificate hails from Kenya and he grew up in Indonesia (Barry Soetero) before coming to Hawaii. That birth certificate on Obama's page? Certified forgery.

Oh, but you libs are so blind!!!!


Gravatar Meg, I'd pull the 2x4 out of your own eye, before calling other people blind.

And, I can't "discredit" Sarah Palin; that implies she has credit to lose in the first place.

As for Obama being my "god," I voted Green. If you actually read through more of my blog, you'd know that.

But, he was born in Honolulu. Certified forgery? Where's your "certification"?

Stop regurgitating memorized talking points, like your "god."


Gravatar On this issue, you are completely blind. How could you even think that Sarah Palin is trying to cover up a pregnancy here?

As far as the forged birth certificate: do a search on it. You'll come up with so much information. But I guess everyone else is in on the conspiracy, too, huh?

Why should I read through your blog? You are a bitter person who stoops to posting horrible things about a mother and her child! Didn't you liberals cry foul when Clintons "private life" was made public? Where's your foul cry now?

Palin owes no one information about her son Trig. This is not a political issue, no matter how much you want it to be.

Get a real hobby, like knitting.


Gravatar Interesting how you now don't allow comments to just post like before. I wonder if you will even post what I had to say!

Oh, and my God is the God of the Israelites and His son is my Savior. You should read about it, it might help you with your bitterness.


Gravatar Bitter, me? I think you're "projecting," or at least involved in wishful thinking, Meg.

And, you need to click the Palin Deception link for the latest pics of a clearly NON-pregnant Sarah Palin.

As for it being a political issue, given that Palin has exploited her children for several months now, SHE made it a political issue. Twit.

Oh, we're at 8 mths and counting on Bristol's alleged current pregnancy, too.

Get a real hobby yourself, Meg, like learning some critical thinking skills.

Oh, and you're laughable, too. You say, "why should I read through" your blog, then you keep coming back here.

As for the allegedly forged Obama birth certificate, I've already read about it. You're wrong.


Gravatar I allow people to "just post." I reserve the right to delete, though. The only ones I have deleted were clearly racist.


Gravatar "Twit"? Now who's projecting? Nice comeback with the critical thinking skills LOL. Sorry I don't have all day to tend to a conspiracy theorist blog.

"Coming back here" is not reading through your blog. It means coming back to the same point to debate your typical liberal comments.

I imagine when Bristol gives birth you'll have a conspiracy theory for that. Again, why don't you call for a simple blood test? Because it will prove you wrong?

And, you didn't answer me on the Clinton vs. Palin privacy issue either.

Looks like you're more into being the bitter liberal rather than addressing REAL issues (and conspiracy theories aren't REAL issues LOL!).

BTW - wasn't it YOU who came to MY blog with the snarky attitude first? Yeeeeaaaah. A convenient fact lost on you.

You libs have no real dirt on Palin, so you enjoy making this stuff up. Seriously, ask for a blood test, and when you're wrong, write her a big long apology blog post


Gravatar P.S. I love how I must not have critical thinking skills because I disagree with you! Classic liberal retort. You have no idea who I am, my level of education, the career I have, etc. But you're very good at passing judgment on my reading skills.

You are classic!


Gravatar Simply stating a fact that you lack critical thinking skills. Maybe it's a liberal retort because it's so often true.

As for critical thinking skills and education, HAH! You just committed a logical fallacy.

Counterexample -- our current Preznit and his MBA.

Blood test isn't conclusive, depending on the blood types of the parents. More critical thinking at your level?

I did answer you on the Clinton vs. Palin privacy issue, you didn't like the answer. Scroll up. It was the sentence before I called you a twit. You noticed THAT!


Gravatar Scroll up?

Here's what you posted: "As for it being a political issue, given that Palin has exploited her children for several months now, SHE made it a political issue. Twit."

How has Palin exploited her children? Did she have them campaigning for her answering questions like Chelsea? And no, you still have not directly answered my question about President Clinton's private life vs. Palin's. You averted it by claiming Palin has exploited her children, which is bologna. Her children have been with her for campaign appearances just the same as your messiah's children have been.

BTW, blood typing for genetic code is quite conclusive. There's an easy test to determine parental vs. non-parental DNA, and it's more than 99% effective. But my years of education don't matter in knowing that - see I have a "reading comprehension" problem LOL!!!!! Apparently you have an aversion to correct research!

You can spot YOUR truth however much you want, but that doesn't mean it's THE truth


Gravatar If you need me to explain in every way Palin exploited her children, from trotting them around the country with her... except Bristol, to perhaps hide a non-pregnancy ... then you're being willfully obtuse.

Did Obama take his children with him everywhere Palin took her younger three and possible grandchild? You know the anser to that.

Oh, one other note. It's my blog, and I get the last word, especially with someone moving into more troll-like territory. And, yes, I have used the ban button for people who don't like to move on, start their own blog or whatever.

And, "your truth" vs. "the truth." Sounds like a fundamentalist type. Read the paragraph above one more time.

You've already ignored that I voted Green and NOT Obama, further showing your ignorance in your last post. I told you that half a dozen posts ago.

If you claim, in response to this, that Obama trotted out his kids to... a Chicago Blackhawks faceoff, on ice, let alone worst, you're lying through your teeth.

Put up or shut up.


Gravatar As for "blood test," BLOOD test is normally used separately from DNA test/genetic test.

You should have spoken more precisely.

Apparently YOU have aversions of your own.


Gravatar I won't pretend that I'm not a Palin supporter - I am.

I will confess that some of this sounds fishy, HOWEVER

Although I got HUGE with my first child, I NEVER showed with my SECOND child. It was wild, I carried her way different from my first born (son) and most of my neighbors questioned me heavily when my second child "suddenly showed up out of no where".

I'll admit, I have questions - but I don't have a problem with her not showing, because I know first hand it is possible and as athletic as she is - highly probable!


Gravatar Sally, I can see some of the "athletic"/not showing... but, no "belly button pop" in clothes/lateness of term where that should have been showing?

And, there's still the question of why no birth is recorded at Mat-Su Regional.


Gravatar I'm with you on the birth record, but still disagree on showing. Truly, I wore plain street clothes to the ER when my water broke and the nurse didn't believe me that I was delivering....I had no belly pop and my daughter was almost 7 lbs.

I'm not saying I don't have doubts, I'm just saying I don't think you can use no belly-pop in an athletic person as sound reasoning.


Gravatar Trig doesn't look like a preemie. If he was a preemie I wouldn't be surprised if he was born in March (which would preclude Sarah from traveling to Texas) If Bristol did not have mono, but cytomegalovirus (which has the exact same symptoms as mono) that would explain her having an infant with mental retardation.


Gravatar Dee, good comment. I found this on Wiki:

These risks (of cytomegalovirus) appear to be almost exclusively associated with women who previously have not been infected with CMV and who are having their first infection with the virus during pregnancy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Cyt...Cytomegalovirus

That could well fit Bristol.


Gravatar Sorry, don't believe anyone who says they did not "show" at all with a full term pregnancy. Only possible if the person is really heavy, which Palin is not. Signs of pregnancy always exist and she simply had none!


Gravatar Now that Bristol Palin has given birth, does that put the miscarriage and 4 or 5 month theory to rest? If you libs have a birth certificate fetish, why don't you demand Obama produce his original birth certificate? Do you know how foolish you sound going after a Downs Syndrome babies "real birth certificate", while completely ignoring that fact that the President-Elect has not produced a "real birth certificate'?


Gravatar Please, "German." We don't know beyond Sarah's words that Trig has Down's, and I would trust her words even less than yours, since you're an obvious wingnut with the B.O. birth certificate bullshit.


Gravatar Sarah is definitely covering up something big. Could Track be the father and Sherri Johnston (the drug dealer mother of Levy and future mother in law of Bristol) the mother? I know it sounds wild - but if he was using as we are told what better place to get the drugs than from sister's boyfriend's mother? Wonder how he paid for the drugs? This would explain why Mercedes called Trig her baby brother. Remember, Track was exiled to Michigan and then to Iraq.


Gravatar The possibility of Track as father has been raised. I just don't know.

Meanwhile, as for Tripp's parentage, Will the media, including the hometown Anchorage Daily News, start looking for answers to all the questions raised by Tripp's birth?


Gravatar Wow, +Meg+.... wonder if that was your real name.... your rhetoric sounds like a certain other Meg who tried repeatedly and feebly to defend La Polarbearista with unwarranted religious references, indigestible word salad, and attacks on the media and bloggers.
Oh, I mean you spouted off like that once upon a time, before being discarded when you were no longer a useful source of supply, of course.
If it stings to feel that narcissistic wound... you can always tell the press what you know about ALL her coverups - not just the parentage of Trig.
KthxMeg! L8erz, wwjd, lol.




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