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Re Trammell
115 is a pretty high cutoff for a shortstop. That would kick out a lot of the shortstops now in.
Cal Ripken and Luke Appling each had 112. Yount had 115. A lot of shortstops in the Hall had lower than 115: Smith, Aparicio, Reese, Rizzuto, Tinker, Sewell, Jackson, Wallace, Bancroft, Maranville and Ward. As for a 120, there are only 5 shortstops with that number in: Wagner, Vaughan, Boudreau, Banks and Davis. Cronin had 119. Of the 21 non-Negro League shortstops in, just 9 had an OPS+ higher than 110.
Larkin will be eligible next year and was 116. Jeter is now at 120.
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Well, as I said, I started at 110, and said 115 is preferred. It of course depends on whether you're looking at a SS as a batter (and within that, a slugger or not) or a fielder. And also, shorter career means you need higher stats.
Tram was an above-average fielder in his early days, but I wouldn't consider him fielder-first as a HOF candidate. (His RF/9 is below league average.)
And, while he had more pop than some SS's, he's not a slugger.
So, with less than 2,500 hits, I think Tram would need the 115 OPS+ to be Hall-worthy.
I would put him a half-step closer than the Murph, even a quarter-step ahead of Hawk, but I'm not sure he's there.
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12.02.08 - 3:53 pm | #
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That all said, I don't think Larkin is a first-round HOFer, or he's borderline on it at best.
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12.02.08 - 3:55 pm | #
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