Disgusting.
Is there anyway the sentence can be appealed by the prosecution as his remorse was obviously fake?
Exactly my thoughts Reg.
The little bollix should have his sentence doubled - and more.
It wasn't the first time he was driving in this manner and it wasn't the last either. He has been yet again involved in another 'accident', this time on a moter cycle
It's the only language they understand !!
Maybe Lee Clegg will be at the next checkpoint he runs into when he's released...
The PPS can appeal against lenient sentences however they should have informed the trial judge at the time and sought leave for the Court of Appeal.
More incompetence in the Criminal Justice System!
Is that what Justice Hart believes to be remorse?
McGinn made the statement after the trial ended.
Very sad state of affairs and I agree justice is missing, very obviously so.
MR, it's been a long time!
Wotcher Julius 
Good to see you!
And yourself, sir. Hope all's well your end.
Indeed, Julius. Good to hear from you Mr Ruad!
Chris:
This is dispicable, this piece of shit is utterly reprehensible. He nearly killed himself in an accident two years before. If this did not deter him I'm sure his holiday in the YOC will not. At least the assembly is now trying to address this issue, in an indirect way at least. It is imperative that the assembly legislate to effectively punish scum like Mc Ginn. Failure to do so will represent a total disservice to society!
MR
Holy cow, its you!
Welcome back! I was asking after you. Hope all is well.
Phantom
I don't know the legal system there, but here driving is not regarded as a right that anyone has, but a privilege that can always be taken away.
Separate and apart from any punishment that is meted out to this cockroach, you would think his driving license be suspended for an extremely long period of time. Not to punish him, but to protect all the others.
Agreed, Phantom. They should be far more strict on this. If people knew they'd be taken off the road for years they'd be a lot slower to do such stupid and reckless things.
He didn't have a licence in the first place. Do you think that not allowing him to have a licence in the future will stop him driving???
No it'll stop him driving legally, so if he's caught driving a car (for the next ten years, for example) he can be charged and punished.
Yes, and if gave him permission to use the car ( presumably this creature has parents ) then could not action be taken against the parents or whoever gave him the keys to a motor vehicle?
Again, if I gave the keys to my car to a drunk man, I'd expect to be charged. Whoever gives this guy full control of a vehicle is just as bad.
Is it a question that the laws are insufficient or is it that the will to enforce existing law is lacking?
Yes.
Simply enforcing the existing laws would be a good start. We now have penalty points in the South. When they were first introduced the accident rate reduced but as people began to realise the new laws weren't being enfoced things went back to normal.
It's a matter of life and death, we need to sort it out.
Sounds about as remorseful as most terrorist convicts.
*rolls eyes*
Don't feed trolls JG
I think they did ban him from driving for 10 years, but that won't stop his kind from creating carnage on the road. A lot of these rodents have a driving ban or never had a license in the first place.
How are you MR?
how can you all sit there judgin Chris? callin him a bolux and a piece f shit? if u knew him u wud c hw bad he feels over it al! he wud give his life 2 make it up 2 both families! so all of yas get of your high horses and judge people u know, not my close friend!!! yous dont have a single clue of how guilty he feels and hes ready 2 pay 4 wat he done! keep ur low life opinions 2 urselves!! love you goose..xxxx
I have met Chris McGinn on a regular basis since he killed those two people and his partying lifestyle never changed! He showed no remorse what so ever!!! Our opinions are not low life and neither are our actions!
AT:
If you associate with this low life scum bag you are obviously not worth your weight in sal. Whats worse is that you defend this murdering bastard, you sick cunt. Furthermore if your friend is so remorseful why is he boasting on bebo that he will never change? You are a reptile AT. Why did your friend not change whenever he near killed himself in an accident prior to the one that he killed two innocent peoplke in? Its a pity the wee wanker didn't die in the first accident Im talking about. The scumbag got in a car with no license, full of drink and killed two innocent people. Yet you defend him. You sicken me to the pits of my very stomach!
AT,
If you stop writing in text-speak somebody might take you seriously.
Adelante
You regularly defend "murdering bastards", so you're in no position to attack AT.
it really isn't fair to judge Christopher whoever he is. I know that my son has done silly things when he was 16 and he now realises that he was wrong in some of them and I'm sure Christopher feels the same. It was out of order to call AT a reptile though. She/He has the right to stick up for her friends as I'm sure you would aswell if you were in their situation! That was uncalled for Adelante! That was also awful to wish that he died, that was completely uncalled for! Fair play to you AT for defending your friend and I would do the same. And in fairness it doesn't take a genius to realise he meant to his frends that he wasn't going to change for the worse he was going to be the Christopher they knew and loved. Totally uncalled for Adelante as you don't know anything about the situation. It's people like you who sicken me to the pit of my stomach when you judge people you don't know!
Clare:
Very presumptious aren't you Clare. Well I've got news for you I do know Goose! Hes a wee bastard always was and always will be. It was not the first time he has been engaged in car crime, is it? He is entirily incapable of reform as he Bebo profile categorically illustrates! I stand by my comments that I wish he died in the first crash. One scumbag joyrider would be dead but two fine men, one that I knew personally, would still be alive. What this men do to deserve to die? Drive on the road at the same time as a joy rider? You are an apologist for a murdering scumbag Clare. You should have a long hard look at yourself and the type of reptile you have taken to defend!!!!
May I just reinforce that even after the accident he was still driving ... he had an accident on a motor bike and broke his leg ...
Also may I remind you all that if he has shown any sort of remorse he would not have published a 'joyriders prayer' on Bebo!
ha you claim you know Goose! yes you know OF him and believe what people tell you about him but you do not know him, if you truely knew him you would see hs guilt & remorse and know what he was really like so don't come with your lies you'll only make yourself look stupid!
AT:
Have you difficulty reading, I KNOW Goose, not know of him! He is a reptile, and he is lucky I was not the judge because I would have brought back the death sentence. Joyriding, drunk driving scum like him deserve to hang. He will rot in hell the bastard!
yeah u just keep sitting behind a computer believing evrything you hear and read! Goose isn't a reptile he's the nicest person i've ever met and i'm not just saying that, anyone will tell you that! so how dare you sit and claim 2 "KNOW" him because if you knew the Goose that we all know and love then reptile is the very last word you'd use 2 describe him! It's people like you that i can't stand! judging people on what you hear, so ur low life opinion isn't needed!!!!
I have never heard so much nonsense in my life.just to get a few things straight,the accident persumingly that you say you know so much about that he nearly killed himself in, if your sources had of been right they would of been able to tell you that he was a back seat passenger in a fully insured car getting a lift.As for the so called motorbike accident that you said happened which again is lies lies lies and there was no broken leg which just goes to show its people like yourselves that say you know all when you know damn all.You comment on 'remorse' what would you know.He is truely sorry and has paid for this from that tragic night and is continuing to do so and will for the rest of his life.What he meant by the comment 'he is not changing'was that he was still going to be the same friend we all know and love,that was it,and not the way you all want to take it..as for you sharon and adelante you do not know christopher so dont be writing nonsense.its people like you that spread lies especially saying he had a party lifestyle after the accident well he didnt as he didnt go out.lies again!he is not a murderer as it was an accident a tragic one.he did not set out that night to do that,he is sorry..from all his friends xxxxx
I am delighted that this murdering scumbag is having his sentence reviewed by the Court of Criminal appeal after Conor Murphy wrote to the AG.
As i said he is not a MURDERER.Nor is he a SCUMBAG. People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones..
I'm not in a glass house and he is a scumbag and a murderer!!!!!!!
So you say your not..but your opinion doesnt matter to anyone.MURDERER u seem to know an awful lot on that word..
"So you say your not"
Leaving aside the poor English, I'm not thowing stones in a glass house. I have never murdered two people, McGinn has!
It isn't an opinion, it's a fact!
Neither has he.It was a tragic accident..Who do you think you are to call anyone names especially 'MURDERER'do you often sit on your computer and pick on people that cant defend themselves.And MCGINN has a name its CHRISTOPHER.
McGinn murdered two men, he is a death driver and a scumbag! He has shown no remorse and as such will burn in hell!
well chris im not getting in to a disagreement on what a murderer means to you.as you should know saying you took your exams on law,maybe look up MURDERER in the dictionary..As for remorse you must have great knowledge and a medical degree in that subject..
Anonymous:
Goose the scum bag got into a car drunk, with no insurance and no license so he knew the rsiks of killing some poor innocent people on the road that night. You can rant and rave all you want but the truth is Goose is a murdering scumbag. Any death driver like Goose is, how can you defend death drivers? You try and presnt t5his piece of shit as if butter would not melt in his mouth, when this clearly is not the case. He had a history of joyriding and of being in car accidents. Anyone with a single shred of moral fibre and decency would have quit after the first accident, Goose did not showing how devoid of morals this disgusting cretin is. YOC/holiday camp will not deter or change this irreformible sick bastard, he should be locked up for good. Why are you defending his reprehensible behaviour and if Goose was so remorseful why did he have a joyriders prayer on his bebo page? Doesn't sound like remorse to me. Furthermore the only people who consider Goose as a decent or nice person are his 'freinds' who are no doubt joy riding scum of the earth like he is. The fact they associate with such a horrid creature and conrtinue to defend what is now indefncible speaks volumes about the type of reptile 'freinds' he has.
sad is the only word that comes to mind i know chris mc ginn murderer or young man who made a big mistake that has caused the loss of lives of two fine young men 'saying silly things about him wont change anything' he will take that night to the grave with him
Sad that two fine men are in the grave, sick that said scumbag is not going to spend the best part of his life rotting in a jail cell.
so you think jail is the answer sorry my friend wrong four years or forty years wont help anything this young man will never forget what he did, i know how he and his family feel, i wouldnt wish that on anyone.time cant be turned back the three familys i feel for
Justice needs to be served and 4 years, 2 years in reality, in a holiday camp/YDC is not justice!
let me tell you something adelante your facts are very wrong,and they mean nothing..he is not and never was a joyrider nor does he have a history of accidents..and another thing i am proud to say i know goose and i am no joyriding scumbag either is the rest of his mates.keep your untrue stories to yourself..and dont bother wasting your time talking shit about something you know nothing about..as i said it was a tragic accident that never should have happened and he has to live with this for the rest of his life and no sentence is greater..wheither he serving it behind bars or on the outside its still going to be with him no matter how many years he serves. people like you need to get a life and stop concentrating on the lives of others!!
sad
Friend:
"he is not and never was a joyrider nor does he have a history of accidents.2
Are you saying that Goose never drove a car without insurance or a license prior to this accident/ Are you saying that this was the first accident Goose was ever in? We both know this is not the case!
"it was a tragic accident that never should have happened "
And it would not have happened had your mate Goose not got drunk and drove with no license at high speed down the middle of the Dublin Road.
"another thing i am proud to say i know goose and i am no joyriding scumbag either is the rest of his mates"
I would not be proud to profess friendship of this murdering cretin, you may not want to tell too many this. You are obviously devoid of moral fibre if you were or continue to be freinds with this anti-social element. He is hardly the pillar of society and his name is synonymous with joy riding and anti-social behaviour. Are you denying this? If you do it is clear that you too are a scumbag.
"he has to live with this for the rest of his life and no sentence is greater"
And the Faeron and Sheilds family have to live without their loved ones that your murdering cunt of a mate killed when drunk! You sicken me, you are an apologist for an unrepentant murdering scum and I hope his sentence gets increased to 10 years or more. Get back under your rock reptile, where you and the rest of the scum belong!
WHATEVER ADELANTE,YOU WRITE NOTHING BUT LIES,YOU KNOW NOTHING,AND YOU DONT KNOW HIM..WHATEVER !!!!
Friend:
It is clear from your puerile and petulent outburst that you are unable to answer the above questions. Most likely due to the fact that you know that the truthful answer will lay lie to your claims of Goose being a saint. Piss off back under your rock and quit using this site as a forum for defending scumbag joyriding murderers!
As i said whatever adelante,i dont need to defend goose to you are anyone,a 'SCUMBAG JOYRIDER' you say and again i say whatever,you dont know him or any thing about this situation except what you might read in the papers,so your lies means nothing!!! I wont go hide under a rock,i think you need to go do that.goose is not scumbag as i said and will keep saying. It was a tragic accident and i dont need someone like you to remind me that two good people lost there lifes.you think cause you make up your own stories bout a bebo site that he is not sorry,again WHATEVER,its someone like you that twists the truth.you dont know him,i know him and dont tell me to keep quiet bout that,he is a good person that didnt set out that night to do that,and it will live with him for the rest of his life.you say hope he gets ten years,well that is none of your business,its up to the courts,and as i say again,no sentence is greater than him living with this for the rest of his life..you say its a 'HOLIDAY CAMP',how do you know?where you at one? its no holiday camp..and i will write on this site if i want as remember its open for comments,but not lies that your spreading,i speak the the truth.this does not concern you so butt out..have you nothing better to do than sit on your computer and write LIES.and you need to learn how to spell!!! So mind your own business adelante and kept your ignorant comments to your self.....
"have you nothing better to do than sit on your computer and write LIES"
I said Goose was a joy rider. This is not lies but fact. A joy rider is someone who drives a cheaply bought car without a license or insurance. Are you saying that Goose had a license and insurance for the run a round car he killed two innocent people with? This is clearly not the case. Therefore he is a joyrider. As for lies, your mate Goose lied at his trial about the amount of drink he had that night. That is hardly the actions of someone who is remorseful, neither is a 'joy riders' prayer on his bebo page. Does this seem like remorse to you? By the way if Goose was not a joy rider why did he have a joy rider prayer on his bebo? If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck!
"goose is not scumbag as i said and will keep saying."
Anybody who gets into a car with no license or insurance, and is drunk and kills two innocent people is a scumbag in my books. The wee tramp even continued to lie in court the pure scumbag.
"he is a good person that didnt set out that night to do that,"
A good person does not drink and drive. By the way you still have not confirmed or denied whether Goose was in any prior accidents. Why is this? Perhaps it is adverse to your agenda. Furthermore he knew he was drunk and he knew the rsiks involved in his actions that night so I harbour no sympathy for him.
"you need to learn how to spell"
Read over your own comments, you really are not in a position to lecture me on spelling or gramma. You write like a fucking four year old and your vocabulary is egregios! I am surprised that you can even use a computer you cretin!
"you dont know him or any thing about this situation except what you might read in the papers,so your lies means nothing!!! "
Wrong again dickhead, I do know Goose and as I am a decent person I find myself repulsed by his anti-social behaviour. You are obviously one of the Ford Sierra Brigade yourself and do not merit even a second of my time you reptile. You defend a murderer who is synonymous with joy riding and motor accidents, I think that speaks volumes about the type of cretin that you are!
im proud to say that i am a friend of goose (chris) do u reali well and truelly no him coz i no that if u did u wud brob how sorry he is about what happnend dat nyt!! n also all the stuff ritten on his page was for his friends aswel as i and others well no it was non of the media's buissness or for that matter yours... everyone is entitled to there privacy!!!! you say a young offenders is a holiday camp dus dat mean you have been to one (i dnt think so) stop talkin shit!!!!
chris isnt the onli person to have had drink and then drive nearly everyone has and yes accidents happen wich was unfortunate for the 2 families.....joyriders dnt cum in to it! u must b havin a laugh u cud go up to any nyt club n see ignorent bastards + most stupid fukas get der licences in a luky bag these day!!!!!!!!!!
oh and in addition that prayer that was on his page is on nearly half the countries bebo page catch a grip!!!!!!!!
dis has nothing to do with him showing no remorse any1 hu no's him no's dat he has regretted dat nyt eva since and is payin 4 it!!!!!!!!!
Diamond/ friend:
I really dont know where to begin with your latest rant. By the way maybe you should pay more aatention to your own spelling, rather than criticising mine! Use a dictionary if needs be child!
"im proud to say that i am a friend of goose (chris)"
Wht don't you use your real name then? Are you ashamed that people will find out who you are?
"chris isnt the onli person to have had drink and then drive nearly everyone has "
Just beacuse others do it, does not mean that it is right. It is utterly reprehensible and is no excuse. Are you now defending drink driving as well as joyriding? And as for your absurd claim, most people do not drink and drive, a dsipicable minority, your mate included, do this.
"
joyriders dnt cum in to it! "
Yes they do because Goose was/is a joyrider. Are you contesting the fact that he had no license or insurance? As much was admitted in court. He categorically fits the definition of joy rider!
" most stupid fukas get der licences in a luky bag these day!!!!!!!!!!"
Well Goose must be a really stupid fucker as he had not even got a license. Are you justifying drunken joyriding on the basis that most people with their license don't deserve it? This is lucicrous! You really should think about what you are typing before you type!
"dis has nothing to do with him showing no remorse any1 hu no's him no's dat he has regretted dat nyt eva since and is payin 4 it!!!!!!!!!"
If he is as remorseful as you say why did he lie in court?
so wat did he lie about if u no so much??????
Diamond:
Goose said that he only consumed two alcho-pops on the night in question. However forensic evidence laid lie to this and showed that he had consumed an excessive amount of alcohol.
You indulge in lies yourself Diamond, you have painted an innaccurate and distorted picture of Goose. He is not a fucking angel and everyone knows that. He has been in several crashes before and has been joyriding for years. Do you seek to contest this? You have very little to say on the points I raised above. Why is this?
adelante you are just an ignorant person who hides behind a computer,and tells lies..let me tell you something a 'JOYRIDER' is someone who steals cars so you have that bit wrong and further more as i said stop telling lies about him being in accidents before this,as this is not true,he was a back seat passenger in the accident you are refering to,in a fully insured car,get your facts straight..as for saying he lied in court,'WHERE YOU THERE',cause he never spoke in court,he held his hands up to everything,as for the drink your saying he was lying about,again 'WHERE YOU THERE TO SEE',you dont know,your talking shit...you say your a decent person,well that is your opinion and i never asked you what you were..you do not know goose,im sorry to tell you that..if you did you would know he is not what your calling him and you would know how sorry he is,but then im not worried wheither you do as this is none of your business.you obviously dont know what a murderer is either,again thats your opinion,which should be kept to yourself..and by the way you have no right to be reading his site,that was all taking up wrong,and if you go into a lot of sites you would see there all over it,the ford sierra brigade,will you catch a grip of yourself and grow up,is this another thing you are making up..how dare you call anyone a tramp..no body knows the risks of anything and nobody sets out to hurt anyone and goose certainly did not set out to hurt anyone..
your just a coward that sits behind a computer and spreads lies,this does not even concern you and you call me a child i doubt your the biggest one going and i think you need to clean your mouth out as i dont tolerate foul language..
you call him a 'TRAMP' did you ever hear the expression 'the pot calling the kettle black'..
as for 'remorse' how do u know?
and by the way my spelling is up to date,your's well 'NO COMMENT'..
wow one lie that he supposedly made!! but at least he admitted to the fact of wat happend tat nyt u seem to forget that....
u talk about me not answering questions i dnt think u answerd myn either u had very little to say on the statement of young mc ginn serving a holiday camp oh please so i take it you have been in one before if ur calling it that!!! and no i havnt painted no inaccurate pic of anything if anyone has done that its urself and the media!! so ur tellin me you no chris very well?
ill have u no that i no plenty more am sure of wat u no but as they say some people are so gullable they listen to anthing that is said on the media!!
they are educated by the gutter press!!
YOU REALLY ARE A HYPROCRITE ARENT YOU ADELANTE SAYING ABOUT THESE OTHERS WITH HOLDING THEIR NAME SAD SAD BEING AND LIFE YOU HAVE.CHRISTOPHER MC GINN IS THE MOST GENUINE PERSON YOUL EVER MEET AND ITS THE LIKES OF YOU THAT GO ROUND LIKE YOU KNOW EVERYONE WHEN ITS QUITE OBVIOUS YOU DONT EVEN KNOW YOURSELF.SO CONTINUE TO WRITE YOUR LIES BECAUSE IT REALLY MUST FILL A VOID IN YOUR SAD AND TWISTED LITTLE LIFE.NOONE IN THIS LIFE TIME IS ANGELS!!!!!!!!!
Friend/ Diamond:
I see that sock puppeting is another past time as well as defending criminals. Stop inventing other bloggers to support your argument, it really does nothing for you.
"a 'JOYRIDER' is someone who steals cars so you have that bit wrong "
Eh no it is not, you are mistaking joy riding for hi-jacking! Joy riding can be committed in a car that was paid for, just like Goose did, by driving with no license or insurance.
"stop telling lies about him being in accidents before this,as this is not true,he was a back seat passenger in the accident you are refering to,in a fully insured car,get your facts straight"
Hold on a minute Tiger, I said he was involved in accidents did I say he was driving? And shows how much you know because Goose was driving in another accident. Furthermore perhaps you could enlighten me as to why Goose overtook me on the Camlough Road earlier that day before he killed two people at a reckless speed?
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'WHERE YOU THERE',cause he never spoke in court,he held his hands up to everything,as for the drink your saying he was lying about,again 'WHERE YOU THERE TO SEE',you dont know,your talking shit."
In his statement he said he had two alcho pops, forensics clearly showed tghis was not the case. It seems to me that Goose not me, was talking shit.
"your just a coward that sits behind a computer and spreads lies2
And your mate is a scumbag that gets tanked uop and kills innocent people. If there was any justice Goose would have died that night and not the two innocent people that he killed.
And no I was not there on the night in question, but it was interesting listening to the survivore of the crash, the driver of the van your scumbag mate caused to crash speak. He fairly laid lie to Gooses bull shit!
"wow one lie that he supposedly made!! but at least he admitted to the fact of wat happend tat nyt u seem to forget that...."
You condone perjury now as well, how tasteful. So you feel that it is acceptable for Goose to lie, and all just to safe his own ass. I hope the cunt rots in hell.
Furthermore I contribute to this site, so i HAVE MORE OF A RIGHT THAN A CRETIN LIKE YOU TO BLOG! iT IS 0BVIOUS THAT THIS SITE IS MUCH TOO ACADEMIC FOR AN ILLTERATE TRAMP LIKE YOURSELF. fUCK OFF ONTO THE tWEENIES WEBSITE YOU SCUMBAG!
here hi houl on a sec
Stop inventing other bloggers to support your argument, it really does nothing for you.
y wud i bother on inventin another person ill state my own opinion i hav neva n neva will put my opinion on any1 else ta copy its up to dem wat dey say ur prob jus rippin at da fact dat u are rong u no ur rong n u shud get on wit it!!!
i also said SUPPOSEDLY made not that he made i niehter agree nor disagree that he lied to save his own skin y wud he bother if he had plead guilty to the charge u seem to be gettin mixd up in ur own we world of wat yu think happend!!! he held his hands up fair and square he admitted what he THOUGHT happend dat nyt and seen as u no everythin then u wud also no he admitted or shud i say plead guilty ON EVIDENCE GIVEN!!!! u also seem to forgett that he was not alone the other 2 that wer with him in the car wer also there so i wud b ryt in sayin that if u are to call goose a scumbag u are also callin them too seen as they shud hav not let him drive under the excessive as u so say drink!! oh and myt i add da other SCUMBAG shall we call him has also been in various crashes if wat ur stating is true so stop tlkin as though u no everythin!! i agree wit MP wer you in that court do u no exactly wat was said?
Its every aprents night mare to wake up to a phone call saying their son or daughter has been involved in an accident. Only to be horrified when they find out the driver of the vehicle that caused the accident was only a youth. As a youth myself I feel that the sentence imposed on Mr. Mc Ginn was not very fair. Two families were destroyed by grief and the comments on Mr. Mc Ginn's bebo page do nothin to console the families or reflect any remorse for his actions. There is nothing more the government can do to highlight the dangers of drink driving and so it is up to offenders like Mr. Mc Ginn to accept responsibility for his actions.
You really are nothing adelante..goose did not tell lies about the accident as if you seem to know alot then you would know he has no memory of thet tragic night..your a sick individual who needs a life,there you go admitting that your listening to stories..what does it matter to you,and you say he over took you on the camlough road BULLSHIT,you truelly are an ignorant person indeed.wash your mouth out..
and believe me when i say i dont need to watch cartoons,now your age is showing..i am a grown person with a life and your right i dont need to sit on this computer to you as its bullshit,i got my say,just like you,and im not worried about your comments back,your not worth it.your a sad person with no life that sits and writes lies,and i would be no better to stoop to your level and answer you back.i know what sort of person goose was,and thats all good,only the people that know him,knows the truth and knows how sorry he is..And i tell you something im not afraid nor embarrased to say who i am,as i will always be at his side,me and the rest..you keep talking about the two good men that lost there lives,we all know they were good people,its someone like you that won't let them rest in peace..
now go and find another story you can talk about,and lie about,and keep your nasty comments to yourself,and dont involve yourself in something that does not concern you and something you know nothing about.
and its a sad thing when you keep writing back with bullshit..
your not worried about the families,your just worried about making yourself look and feel good,well done adelante,pat yourself on the back cause your full of shit!!!
look ppl, wots done is done, we cant change the past but can we not agree to dis agree and help shape a better future for our kids? throwing insults doesnt help the situation. Chris is a decent bloke and he has taken his sentence handed down to him and is paying for wot he done. If thats not remorse and bein a man then wot is?
nightmare what your sayin is a statement but how long is enough if he got 20 yrs,u wud stil say thats not enough he got sentenced 2 what the judge felt was enough how can you sit and say the lad is not sorry just coz u read from papers an a bebo site that was twisted an remember there wuz more than 2 families that got that call that nite people need 2 stop reading in 2 things that dont involve them anyone can tel that the bebo site is not a true fact on how sorry the lad is an papers aren always rite either
so adalante u are saying that you seen chris driving before that accident well if ur dead against ppl drivin with no insurence n all dat den y didnt u fone the cops i mean cumon u z urself u disagree totally therefor im assumin u had made ppl aware that u had seen him drivin previously dat day otherwise u wud onli be makin ur self out to be a hypocrit!!! in addition u did state u no him very well therefor as u no so much about him u wud hav known he had no licence!!!
as i well no the media would go out of there way to make a story wich is better weter its bad or gud on persons involved they dnt care as long as they get a story in to make der money and so they do OBVIOUSLY with people like u hu no doubt scam every piece of information jus so u think u no wats goin on!!! n lik sum1 already z it aint about how long he gets he still has the rest of his life ta live wit da guilt!!!
you say i wont reveal my name ha bullshit i hav always stud by chris and always will n u neva askd me 4 my name infact my name is irrelevent!!!
Addelante the terms sad and little to be at arn't even strong enough to describe ya! Do you seriusly think that Chris woke up that mornin and planned the whole thing??? what sort of sick creature are you to think tht! you have some cheek callin us scumbags and reptiles, well newsflash your only describin yourself! and your only makin urself look absolutly pathetic by answering back 2 every single comment! do ya not have a life no? thought not! and every single comment is just lies, lies, lies, lies, lies and more lies and you knw rightly theres no truth in wat your sayin. what Chris wrote on his bebo was a personal mesage 2 his friends tht he loved telin them tht hes not goin 2 change for the WORSE!! only a fool could take that up wrong, and thats obviusly what you are! did u ever spare a thought for him? for his family? for the other families? NO! only urself!! they are ALL goin through hell and te fact tht u say u hope he rots in hell is jst wrong on so many levels. he is the most luvable, loving, caring, gentle person you will ever come across. and the fact tht u are sad enough to sit behind a computer and spread lies about him is just disgustin. oh and were the 1s ashamed 2 say who we are?? funny tht cz i doubt ur usin ur real name so dont come tht crak cos ur only makin urself look beyond stupid! u really have a sad sad life and no-one has an time for ya. actually feel sorry 4 ya in a way cos this is obviusly the highlight of your social life! sad sad little person...
Actually observer your wrong. I said two families were destroyed by grief, the families of the two men that died in that car accident. Yes I agree newspapers can be wrong sometimes but that isn't the case in this investigation. He caused the death's of two innocent men and 4 years is not enough. Do u not think if the shoe was on the other foot, u would want justice for ur friend?
Diamond/friend/AT:
You really should take some English lessons, your spelling and grammar is atrocious. You are creating alter egoes to support your views, this is obvious from the poor grammar and identical spelling mistakes in each of your posts. This shows how futile defending a death driver really is, you have to invent others to defend him. Goose is a scumbag death driver with blood on his hands, that was the over riding message at a vigil held shortly after he killed two innocent people. I do not see thousands of people flocking to the Dublin Road to show their support for him, the two families have recieved support from thousands in the South Armagh area. Goose has been treated with the contempt that a death driver should. I never said he set out to kill two people that night, but he knew the consequences of getting into a car drunk. He broke the law several times that night: driving with no license, driving with no insurance, drink driving and dangerous driving resulting in murder. These are facts, not opinion, how can you continue to defend him on the basis of your own jaundiced opinion? It is obvious that Goose was culpable and that he deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail, do you think 2 years in a YOC is adequate punishment for killing two people? You state that Goose has to live with this guilt all his life. Rightly so, I have no sympathy for him, if he had not got drunk and drove then he would not have this guilt! What about the two families? Are you arguing that Gooses loss is greater than theirs? Are you saying that guilt is enough and Goose should not have to serve a custodial sentence? If he was genuinely remorseful he would not have lied about the amount of alcohol he drank. Do you not agree? Genuine remorse would mean that he tells the truth ewhich he did not, in order to try and paint a rosy picture and recieve a lenient sentence! Why would he lie after admitting causing the accident Diamond? Because it would be a mitigating circumstance and he would get a lesser sentence!Please try and respond in a mature way rather than engaging in a meaningless and nonsensical tirrade!
listen adelante as i said i am not stooping to your level,i write on behalf of myself and no one else.and to tell you something else i was one of those people standing at that vigil.dont you talk to me about remorse or my spelling as there is not one thing wrong with it..as i said you are not concerned about any of the families,only yourself..how dare you speak of goose in that way,who the hell do you think you are? it wouldnt matter how many years he got as it still would'nt be enough..and leave the families out of it,as they are still grieving,and no i did not say goose's grief was worse,but he is still grieving and you seem to be forgeting about his family as well.did you ever stop to think how they are feeling? no you didnt,so quit writing nonsense and just worry about your own life and not others. its not very fair to listen to one sided stories either..and its not fair to keep raking up this story to hurt all that was involved..as i said to chris people in glass houses should'nt throw stones,no body is perfect,NOBODY.
Diamond and friend,
jus shut up
Adelante don't judge us by your low standards! I wouldn't be suprised if you were the one making up fake people on this. We wrote on this to set the record straight, that Chris is the nicest person going and he didn't set out to hurt anyone and he IS remorseful - don't dare say he's not! It's you that's coming with the lies saying that he's a "reptile" and "murdering bastard that should rot in hell", how can you honestly sit behind a computer and judge someone you don't know? (and don't come with the lies saying you know him because you know as well as I do you no more know him than I know you. And thank God i don't know ya, your fuckin heartless and I've no time for people like ya!) and another thing why are you so interested in the whole thing? Comin with your "facts and figures"? Like seriously get a grip and get a life and stay out of others that have nothing to do with ya! And i can spell and even if I couldn't what business is it of yours? Exactly! So just stay out of things that dont concern you and quit sayin shit about Chris because it's not acheiving anythin is it? Only makin you look like a fool...
yea i agree.. adalante ur a sick individual.. wouldnt want to see wat people would have to say if somethin happened to u or if u wer in the same situation as chris!!!! dont say dat u never will b cause u never know..it was an accident.. and the sooner people start to come down of their high horse and realise that the better. have u ever stopped and wondered wat it would b like if u wer in chrises shoes???? no didnt think soo ........
i have to say i havn't heard as much rubbish in all my life!!!
who the hell do you think you are adalente?? or night mare??
i think the both of you should shut the fuck up!!!
what in the hell do you's two know about christopher if you have so much to say then why are you hiding behind a fake name and computer screen?!?! i've never heard the likes of it!!! Christopher is the most kindest loving friend anyone could wish for!
he has proven how sorry he was about that night and is very well paying for what happend...What in the name of heaven has spelling and grammer got to do with the lies you are spreading on this hypocrit of a site its not an english class obviously. it is also quite obvious that you have nothing better to do than spreading shite!!
i think you should keep your sick opinions to yourself!
every one has their own opinion but to spread lies is a different thing.
you people dont know what you are talking about!jesus christ, i stood on newry hill on the nite that scumbag murdered gerard fearon and steven shields, two people i knew very very well. i stood along side a very fine long man who mcginn hit at 80mph and who somehow survived the horrific event. number one, it was not an accident, mcginn was/is and always will be a joyriding scumbag. who had no rearing, and whose death driving has left 3 families totally devastated. he got of with murder when he was sentenced back in april, he smirked and didnt show any remorse, as i sat in the gallery and watched the bastard, and heard his family sniffling beside us!he has left a life sentence on not only the victims 2 familes but on the survivior of the crash who mark my words WILL NEVER FORGET THAT NIGHT. mc ginn robbed him of his best friend, his home, his car everything in the space of a few seconds, mcginn will not die in his bed for the crime he has committed, i hope he dies a long show death crying for mercy the bastard because he is a murdering scumbag who along with alot of his 'friends' will come to a bad bad end. so cop on you immature shitheads crying over 'angelic' mcginn, you will never know the tears we have cried since 27th oct 06. rue the day mcginn is back lying in camlough with his alcoholic family, he is a dead man walking. oh an remember every move of his mates and fellow'tarmac terriorsts' as they like to be called is being watched, he shopped you all!!!!
Anonymous:
Well put mo chara, it appears Mc Ginns friends have chosen to wallow in their own self pity. They have some misplaced sense of sympathy for what is in all essence a murdering scum bag bastard. He showed no remorse at the trial, lying about the amount of drink he had to try and save his tender fat fucking arse! And as for the accident claim, anyone who drink drives, drives with no insurance and no license know the riskd thay are taken. Mc Ginn killed two fine men, one of whose family are close friends of mine. His friends on this site peddle shite about him being a decent person this could not be further from the truth. Their bullshit is worthless as it is based on opinion. Examine the facts, which are irrefutable and the true picture emerges: Mc Ginn drank and drove on the night in question, he drove dangerously down the middle of the Dublin Road at fatal speed, he had no license or insurance and lied about the amount of alcohol he consumed. These are facts all in the public domain. Fuck Mc Ginn and fuck his friends, he has been the autgor of his own misfortune. He is synonymous with joyriding, and he has robbed two families of their loved ones. If there was any justice that fat cunt would have died on the night in question. He will rot in hell!
wel put yourself-they really dont understand the devastation that has been caused. it is not grey in any way, simply black and white- murdering death driving and cheating life will evitably end in destrucion and in this case killing two fine people. everyknow knows his whole gang of mates ripping round the rounds, justice hart should have made an example of him once and for you, instead he has left him and his mates laughing!it is a total disgrace, he'l meet his maker someday, pure badness...
i honestly dont give to flying fucks what you have to say...
"oh an remember every move of his mates and fellow'tarmac terriorsts' as they like to be called is being watched, he shopped you all!!!!"
wise up to fuck and dont talk cock and bull...
what has his friends got to do with what happend wer we there?? NO!!! however i will still stand by him no matter what he done... i know and aswel as others he has done wrong he knows that himself and before you start shouting your mouth of i do feel for them families however it is people like you who wont let these two men rest in peace!!!!
Roisin:
"however i will still stand by him no matter what he done..."
This is disgusting, you are choosing to defend a murdering scumbag who has failed to express genuine remorse. You are unable to argue with the facts that I mentioned above, that is because they are FACT, not opinion, and these facts are all in the public domain! Your opinionated defnce is baseless and paper thin. It counts for nothing against the hard facts of the case!
"i do feel for them families "
The families do not need your crocidile tears, they have plenty of support from their true friends, people who are appalled at Gosse bastard, not his friends who continue to defend him and rub insult into the gapping wounds of the families. These families are two upstanding and dignified families, unlike Mc Ginns ilk, he had no rearing as previously alluded to, and was engaged in serious anti-social behaviour. You can peddle all the shite you want about poor wee Goose the angel, knows he done wrong, has to live with this sentence etc.. but everyone knows it is lies. Goose is known around South Armagh as a death driving joyriding scumbag, people have nothing but contempt for him. This is in stark contrast to the respect and honour the two families are held in, they have dealt with their loss in the most remarkable and dignified manner. Mc Ginn has failed to demonstrate one single shred of dignity as he lied to save himself. He is scum, and those that associate with and defend him are no better!!!!!!!!!
Adelante you have to be the most twisting person i've ever come acros and believe me i know plenty!! I wudnt be one bit suprised if you made up that anonymus person 2 make urself not look as sad - wel lelieve me it didnt work. You havn't got the slightest clue of how Chris feels or how sorry he is so how dare you come with tht!!! You say that he should have died??? NO-ONE should have died, tht was just a pure cruel thing to say you sick sick bastard! And i'll just have you know tht he is the most caring loving person going and that will never change! His friends and family love him 2 bits and we all know the true Chris and we're so lucky that we do and you will never know the real him because he doesn't need 2 defend himself 2 the likes of you!! You act as if you know evyerthing but yet everything you are sayin is lies lies lies! He knows what he has done wrong and he accepted his punishment! And he will ALWAYS have his true friends and family stand by him no matter what he has done in the past. It is YOU who keeps digging up the past and not lettin the 2 men rest in peace when you have no rght to! Whenevr you see the real Chris and see how he really is, then you can come with your comments, but don't sit behind a computer screen judging someone you don't know!!!
'accepted his punishment?????what punishment???what about the two men he punished by hitting them at what 80mph?on the wrong side of the road an only two bottles of wkd??sniff sniff!!!wise up you tramp?u have no idea and neither has he the devastation that he has caused!he'l be out in two years recking aroung killing more innocent people!it was not an ACCIDENT!DEATH DRIVING IN A DEATH CAR KILLED GERRY FEARON AND STEVEN SHIELDS AND MC GINN IS SMIRKING HIS HOLE OFF!!!YOU REALLY ARE A SAD SHOWER OF PEOPLE!!!HOPE HE ROTS THE FAT BASTARD!!!
ya knw sumthin annonomus who do you realy think u are 2 say tht? 2 years? do you think Chris is in there havin the time of his life??? ive news for you, its far from it! and im no tramp! am not even gonna stoop 2 ur level by writin back 2 ya anymore. botum line is Chris IS sorry and yeh i stand by wat i said he accepted his punishment! and it WAS an accident, he didnt intend to hurt anyone. and he isn't "smirking his hole off!" you really couldnt be further from the truth and your not even worth writing back to if your sayin tht bout Chris....
AT:
"most twisting person i've ever come acros and believe me i know plenty!!"
You are a friend of Goose, so I'm sure you do know PLENTY of twisted bastards, you are probably top of the pile yourself!!!!
" wudnt be one bit suprised if you made up that anonymus person 2 make urself not look as sad"
I'm not into sock puppeting, you are quite fond of this AT/Friend/diamond.
The picture you portray of Goose is so distorted it is not even funny. He is a scumbag, ask anyone around South Armagh and they will verify thisl. He has been implicated in anti-social behaviour for years, his latest bout culminating in the tragic death of two innocent people. You fail tio look at the facts, your opinion does not weigh up against the facts of the case! I do not care if you take umbrage to what I write about Goose, he is a murdering fat cunt, not surprising when you look at the way he was reared, and I hope he rots in hell, fat bastard. I can smell the stench of baked ham already!!!!!!!!!!
adelante you sound like a sad bus turd get a life ask any from s/armagh goose and his family are respected you must be from some other solar system not s/armagh he made a big mistake; he is, and will pay for that, not that you care about anyone or anything.get real. his family are all good people i know them all
Roadrunner:
Your head is so far up your arse it is not even funny. It is categorically clear that you are not from South Armagh if you think Goose or his family are well respected. Thats the best joke I have heard in ages, its even better than the one that says Goose is sorry! Goose is hated in South Armagh, he had fuck all rearing and this is quite apparent from the type of activity he engaged in. By the way fuck head get a dictionary because your spelling is fucking woeful!!!!!!!!!
wofull mybe but i live in camlough' i dont think you know anything about camlough,mcginns are good people
Adelante you havn't the slightest clue wat your sayin. Goose and his family are good people, yes he made a mistake but it WASN'T planned so get that into ur head!! And believe me he's paying for it. Your opinion isn't even cared about so why waste your time writin such shit? have you nothing else 2 do?? so just go and write sad shit about sum1 else!!
adelante how do you know off the mcginns through this blog, mybe, what christopher did cant be condoned . i wont even try to, what he did is unforgetable, and unforgiveable, i wont try to justify it,the things you say are untrue, friend off the mcginns
ADELENTE,roadrunner is right im from camlough too, good people
Mc ginns will never forget shields/feron. how could they, their son killed them, how do you say sorry for that. young Mc ginn wont need people like sharon or anyone else to remind him off the wrong he has done
if young mcginn killed your people that night, would you be saying the same thing, come on, that lad is on the road to ruin, he has caused so much destruction, he never once appeared sorry for what he has done. two good men are rotting because of him, and he'l get out in a year or two and start al over again, it is a disgrace.
Roadrunner:
Well if they are so decent maybe they should have spent more effort rearing their son. His behaviour is opprobrious, and the accident was not a single, isolated accident. Everyone knows this, and if you are as you say, from Camlough you too will know this. His behaviour is reprehensible and is obvious he was not brought up right. Are you contesting this? Why did his parents not step in before it came to such a tragic head???????
i cant answer you i dont know off any antisocial problems with christopher,idont think that was an issue,i know his parents as i said good people,what he did that night cant be put right by locking him up, if it could id say throw the key away. how can you put something like that right, it cant be done,how sorry do i feel for the family of steven and jerry, it brings a tear to my eyes every thim i think what christopher mc ginn did to those familys how do you stop other young people,from going down that road ,young people need to be kept busy from 14 to 18 is a very hard time for all, goverment need to step in, they have nothing for these youths to do, they walk about, GAA is great but we need more places and things for our young people to keep them safe from drugs and drink which is all to easy to get now. our young people need help,
How can you sit on your computer and say that christopher had no rearing,as a parent myself i can honestly say that you can only do your best and when they go to work or school for that matter you cant and wont be aware as to what they are doing and if the goverment provided more for young people travisties like this would not happen.As for Mc Ginns and Christopher they are a well respected family who keep themselves to themselves.If you have children of your own you would know this..
I have been reading this blog for several months now!!! So many people shouting at and defending others!!! I am a family member of the Fearon family and I can not begin to tell you of what pain and sorrow is consumed by our family!!! Gerry will never be replaced in our family and that hurt is what we all have to live with every day!!!
To AT and road runner and the rest of Chris's friends I do not believe that this was an accident, yes he may not of woke up the morning of October 27th and said that he was going to kill someone but he did get into a car without a licience,at the age of 16, no insurance and worse with a coctail of drink in his system and then proceed to get into a car and yes RALLY around the country roads!!!
To me this is like walking around with a loaded gun then putting a blind fold on and shooting it, It is inevitable that someone is going to get hurt or even tragicly worse KILLED. I also have met Chris McGinn on a few of his partying nights out and this I am not lying and to me there was no remorse as he slugged at his BLUE WKD, dancing and believe me was having what seemed to be a brilant night out far better than what I was cause every time i caught a glimse of him memories of Gerald came flooding back!!!!!
The sentencing was a joke 1 year for each man's life been taken away, for mother and father never to see there son again for wife never to see her husband again, for son's never to see their father again, for bothers and sisters never to see there brother again, never to see an uncle, nephew or cousin again!!! no amount of years can compare!!!
As for Chris's BEBO I myself have seen and as for diamond yes I agree of course that everyone is entitled to their own privacy but u really are insulting the intelligence of Chris I am sure that he would know that if it was privacy he was after then dont post comments like that on a PUBLIC SOCIAL NETWORKING WEBSITE, also no one can say that he did not go out not only have I seen it first hand but to say that you have a sheltered social life and to then post pictures up of those many sheltered social nights out!!! Please!!!! And yes I am sure that others around the country have the Ford Seirras OUR FATHER posted on their BEBO but just how many of them are responsible for the death of two people!!!?????????......
Really no-one can justify what has been done, as people say if you do the crime, then do the time!! Time that shows Justice has been done not just a slap on the wrists!!! A sentence that will say that this will not be tollerated any longer, boy racers, will no be tollerated on our roads, to make then a safer place for us to travel on may it be down to get a pizza with a mate, that the two mates will come home in one piece to their families, and that families do not suffer undue grief and a life sentence of going to the grave side to spend a moment with their loved one!!!!
Slán Mó Cara xx
And he is doing the time ,that is what he was given...the bebo page was private and blocked,and only his family and friends had access,he didnt mean any harm by it as he didn think that anyone else was going to read it.it was a tragic accident that should'nt have happened,and yes he is living with this,of what he has caused to both those families.i couldnt even imagine what there going through..it wouldnt matter what i was to write on this as everyone has and is entitled to there own opinions,but you have alot of it wrong,and this name calling and bad language is disgusting on this site.its not right to sit on a computer and call people foul names for whatever reasons.especially people that dont know him or his family.he never lied he did not have a social life after this,and im sorry but he didnt go out and have a good time like you think.did you ever hear 'dont judge a book by its cover' nobody knows what was going on inside his head..im not sitting here justify what he did as he should never had been in a car but sadly we all cannot turn back time,and each day he wishes he could.there were 2 other passengers in that car and i believe they are just as much to blame,but they walked away innocent with no care in the world,and alot of money in there pockets. Whatever time he gets he will serve,he is not deciding how long he gets,and it still wont be enough..i wrote on this site to express my opinion like everyone else,i am his friend i know him..
At the end of the day Chris is a good person, a few people might not think that but it's the truth. He didn't intend any harm. And the harm he has caused he is paying for. It was not his decision to get the sentence he got, he didn't decide it. No amount of years will ever bring back those who died. It's uncalled for and pointless to start insulting his family as they are good people and are not to blame. What good is it for people like Adelante to start shouting ther mouth off on a subject they have nothing to do with?! Seriuosly what is it goin to acheive? Chris left a message on his bebo to his close friends and family to all of us that he loved us and will not change for the worse. And it's just stupid for people to take that the wrong way. If you actually know Chris, have sat down and talked with him and don't like him then fair enough. But if you dont actually know him then its not your place to judge him. This is all just starting to get out of hand now wth people like Adelante stirring shit tht they know nothing about. And Mo Cara, not sure if you want to hear this but sorry for your loss x
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