Slaves will be slaves, I used to pity them but as time goes on they disgust me too much to waste that emotion.
How any country would want a King or Queen is well and truly beyond me. We don't live in the middle ages anymore were King's and Queens ruled with a iron fist.
These deluded fools who are actually pro-royalist need to get a grip and evolve
Not that I'm in favor of royalty, but--
The British and most other royals have not ruled anything for a long time
Many of the Brits and others like their royalty as a link to the past, a head of state that is not some conniving and perhaps divisive politician, and as a fun spectacle.
The "British" are by nature deferential to authority of any kind, but the Russian Bolsheviks had the right idea when it came to monarchy.
Self deluded parasites, supported by a population bereft of self esteem.
'Self deluded parasites, supported by a population bereft of self esteem.'
Finally someone has pointed out the reason why the population of the Republic of Ireland will vote 'Yes' to Lisbon come Friday.
Andrew,
Interesting to see you following Chris' line on Lisbon.
Here's hoping there will be resounding "yes" vote to stick it to Coir.
On monarchical systems - their only value appears to be to provide countries with a link to their past/traditions. If a population wants such a system then so be it. Nevertheless, as a republican, I find it an odd system to adhere to in the modern age.
--The "British" are by nature deferential to authority of any kind--
You must know a different lot of Brits than I've encountered
'Interesting to see you following Chris' line on Lisbon.'
I form my own opinions on things, I don't take 'lines'.
I'm hoping for a 'No', but given the character of the Irish race where European bully tactics followed by promises of political inclusion and fiscal munificence are concerned, I'm fully expecting a 'Yes'.
the oirish race will agree to anything provided theres enough silver coins in the bag 
"I form my own opinions on things, I don't take 'lines'."
Actually, you appear to misinterpret, quite catastrophically, the views of others on unrelated topics.
"the oirish race will agree to anything provided theres enough silver coins in the bag"
Ulster Sam
Which of the nine counties of Oireland are you from, Sam?
Sam
as in Sam Flanagan?
McCann, you inbred Ballymena yokel, your own "government" wouldn't give you a vote on Lisbon (probably a good idea when it comes to hillbillies like you), so show some gratitude for the fact that it was turned down by the Irish last time it was proposed. Your lot would know far more about parasitism (off the British exchequer), self-delusion (that real British people give a damn about you) and caring about nothing but the contents of your own pockets than your betters in the South.
lol Shane you fool, Andrew isn't from Northern Ireland, he's a Yorkshireman
That explains it then, he's even more inbred than I thought...
'That explains it then, he's even more inbred than I thought...'
Have you got hold of some genetic information to back you your assertion, Shane, or are you just another pigbog-ignorant Paddy?
I don't need evidence, you're a "Unionist", so you're a mentally diseased, wife-battering, immigrant-bashing Ballymena yokel. OK? Do you see how that works now wee fella?
And who do you think you're fooling with a name like McCann? You're as Irish as me boy, the only difference is I don't bend down and grab my ankles for John Bull.
This anti-monarchist piece exposes also an uncomfortable fact, that the Irish republican movement is equally based on families. The sainted bearded wonder would get nowhere if it weren't for his father's line and his mother's, the Hannaways. The same is true for the cavemen unionists. Let's face it: northern Ireland is full of tribally based family hierarchies that dominate politics, business, sectarian strife, past, present, and future. Pygmies, the lot of them.
117 countries around the world (over 50% of the total) are ruled by family or tribal dynasties, according to the UN. That does not include Britain (head of state has no ruling power), or the USA (presidential elections every 4 years, despite the fact that a Clinton, Bush, or Kennedy runs in virtually every recent race).
"pigbog-ignorant Paddy?" - I could almost feel the spittle!
Such anti-Irish passion, Mr McCann.
Where does it come from, I wonder?
Bollocks blown off by an IRA claymore, buggered by an Irish priest, rejected by a colleen? Perhaps all of the above?
Racism is almost always the result of some deep seated insecurity and usually nothing to do with the stated "rationale" of those afflicted.
I'm sure you have an interesting and pitiable story, but lashing out in blind anger isn't going to provide more than temporary respite.
probably a lot of it stems from the way he was raised Observer; from what I recall him saying in past, his father is some sort of loyalist orange bigot, and raised wee andy-pandy in the same manner.
funnily enough many threads over at ATW used to end up with a psychological enquiry along the lines of:
"Understanding Andy"
maybe that's the real reason for "comments off"
Oh and McCann, I almost forgot, being a "Unionist" Orange rat, you're probably also into drugs.
Are you suggesting he's a self loathing Irishman, Bill?
'Are you suggesting he's a self loathing Irishman, Bill?'
lol, 'self loathing' thats a term Vance always uses to describe anyone who disagrees with him over there
there's many a cunning device bill.
If you're opposed to Zionism, that equates to being a self-loathig jew in his mind, and if you're a Brit living in the O6C, and don't support the Union , ergo you must be a self-loathing Brit.
It don't wash, like any of his soap.
It makes you filthier.
There are, as Obs said , those orange folk who are simply self-loathing irishmen, and that's just fact!
'the only difference is I don't bend down and grab my ankles for John Bull.'
No. You wait till you're in a public shower with a twink.
A Unionist is worth twice the salt of any Irish separatist. 30 years of murder, twelve years of political agitation and Northern Ireland is STILL in the United Kingdom.
Perhaps you'd like to dwell on that whilst you're grabbing your ankles.
I am quite happy to weat a Claddagh ring for my beloved, which bears a crown and hands of hope and trust.
It is truly beautiful and one of the treasures Ireland has given to the world.
"A Unionist is worth twice the salt of any Irish separatist."
Didn't you forget to add the British army to the unionist part of your equation? After all, it is they who do the dying on behalf of unionists.
A "Fenian" Claddagh, without the crown, was later designed in Dublin for the Irish Republican community, but that is not an indication that the crown in the original design was intended as a symbol of fidelity to the British crown.
The Fenian Claddagh, while still in use, does not quite share the popularity of the ancient design. In any event, it seems likely that the crown of the Claddugh was intended to represent the ancient kings of Ireland
'After all, it is they who do the dying on behalf of unionists.'
Must remember to pass that on to the relatives of the dog breeders at La Mon.
You deny that unionists expect British troops to die on their behalf?
'You deny that unionists expect British troops to die on their behalf?'
I think many in the Unionist community would have been happy to defend the United Kingdom in much more pro-active way than the Army were permitted to do.
"I think many in the Unionist community would have been happy to defend the United Kingdom in much more pro-active way than the Army were permitted to do."
hmmm yes, people such as king Rat and michael stone/johnny adair are great Birish patriots......
should read British
That the Army openly admitted to doing, perhaps!
"I think many in the Unionist community would have been happy to defend the United Kingdom in much more pro-active way than the Army were permitted to do."
But they decided to let British troops die for them instead.
'people such as king Rat and michael stone/johnny adair are great Birish patriots......'
No they aren't, which is why their political parties receive such miniscule support from the wider Unionist community.
Sinn Fein/IRA on the other hand....
'That the Army openly admitted to doing, perhaps!'
Jackanory is no substitute in an argument.
'But they decided to let British troops die for them instead.'
Point already answered. Do keep up!
"Point already answered. Do keep up!"
Unfortunately not.
Perhaps you could remind me where you answered?
"30 years of murder, twelve years of political agitation and Northern Ireland is STILL in the United Kingdom."
Yeah, a "United Kingdom" where London's letting Dublin call the shots and rubber stamping them because they want about as much to do with Northern Ireland as they do with a rabid weasel. They're just too proud to open the door and shoo it out. Must really fill you guys with the warm and fuzzies, Andrew.
"But they decided to let British troops die for them instead."
Not to mention kill. But I guess Ulster did its bit on the Somme, and that was that. But you know, you really have to admire a people who threatened to launch a civil war to STAY IN a country that was about to kick them out... that kind of Bizarro World patriotism has got to be unique in human history.
here's one for you mr.andy to consider, as you're such a measured clever chap:
The reality behind all this blindsiding about unionist identity is of course that British landlordism and its abandoned child, Ulster Unionism, could only ever exist comfortably in Ireland (or northeast Ireland in the case of the Ulster pieds noir) while it was in a position of dominance over the native Catholic Irish and in the case of Northern Ireland where it could use that dominance and religious division to control its own working class using a white trash ethos of superiority.
Equality and mutual respect threatens all that and Unionism and its ethos of constant suspicion of and studied alienation towards their fellow citizens cannot survive openness, tolerance and co-operation applied towards building a better society for all. No political philosophy that was based on exploitation and division in order to safeguard the priveleges of the over-priveleged ever could.
Speaking of rabid weasels, how are the people of west Belfast and south Armagh these days?
"Speaking of rabid weasels, how are the people of west Belfast and south Armagh these days?"
Keen to be out of the UK much like the Yanks were in 1776, but for altogether more compelling reasons.
"studied alienation towards their fellow citizens cannot survive openness, tolerance and co-operation"
I strongly believe this is the case. Over here, there was a sectarian hatred between the Irish and the Irish for a long time. The Orange Lodge was particularly powerful where I live, at the height of its power in WWI, trailing off into the 50s with the support of the rural fringe. But between the wars, urban people started mingling and working together and stopped cutting their social lives off at particular ethnic and religious lines. Those distinctions became unimportant to the young people, and support for things like the OO dwindled and became clubs for old bigots. I was surprised to find out there actually is an Orange Parade in my city, but someone posted a vid of it from last summer on YouTube. Stem to stern, it runs just over ten minutes (in two parts), and the city only had to stop traffic in one direction to accommodate it... nothing like the photos I've seen from the last century.
When people really start working together, there's no need for that kind of thing anymore.
They're heads of state, they don't rule. The people who rule are voted in.
Don't you understand this?
Do you think that Mary Robinson rules us?
Or are you just determined to feel wounded by a monarchy in defiance of any actual facts.
Grow up and stop wasting your time.
"Do you think that Mary Robinson rules us?"
Mary Robinson?
You petty twat. Mary McAleese.
Here is another big news story for your blog of hate.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1029...1029/
omagh.html
A real Irish man, rightly awarded for standing up to the hate that you foster in your writing. An actual brave person. Not someone who covers his face and kills. Not someone who plants a bomb and sneaks away. Not someone who stokes the fires of hatred in a juvenile blog, then sits back to see how that hate festers into murder.
A man that shames most so-called republicans.
Martín O'Broin
Martin,
I wasn't being petty; just factual. (Mind your language - it makes you look juvenile.)
I don't understand your hatred of someone who critises the fairly outdated concept of monarchy (particularly an Irishman criticising the British monarchy).
Personally, if a population want to maintain their monarchy for reasons of history and tradition then I think that's a reasonable position (albeit that I disagree).
I have the greatest sympathy and respect for Michael Gallagher although how he relates to a thread on monarchy is beyond me.
That should be "criticises".
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