Gravatar I agree with you. From articles I have read, he didn't sound very innocent. He was said to have boasted about killing those people during the trial. He's had a good long while (too long if you ask me) to prove his innocence. It was not a race issue at all. He killed 4 people who had done nothing to him...
what was done to Tookie is called justice..


Gravatar Interesting the apparent glee you find in the death of a human being. Agree with the death penalty if you must, but your garish response reminds me of a quote by Epictetus, “Control thy passion lest they take vengeance on thee”. Vengeance is a dirty business.


Gravatar Quick preface: I am one of those "weird" conservatives who thinks there is a case for getting rid of the death penalty. HOWEVER, I don't think we as a society are ready to throw it out when we want to equate pardon with innocence and state execution with murder. So you won't find me at the protest on either side. The interesting, and deluded, aspect of the run of the mill anti-death penalty folks is who they pick to use as an example. This Tookie guy was an obviously unrepentant thug who would not cooperate with authorities in ridding the world of the evil he had started. Interestingly the last death-row inmate pardoned in CA was a retarded woman. The pardoner? Gov. Ronald Reagan.


Gravatar TOO-TOO-TOOKIE GOODBYE, TOO-TOO-TOOKIE YOU'LL FRY....HAHAHAH. GOOD ARTICLE.


Gravatar Tookie Williams: Redemption vs Contempt
Dudley Sharp, Justice Matters
 
The movie "Redemption" was simply a deception, transforming Tookie Williams into the innocent angel he was not. Tookie was a violent criminal from an early age, as he admitted. Many simply fell for his deceptions, hook, line and sinker.  Williams, until his dying day, adhered to the gang code of not snitching. He never apologized or voiced regrets for the four murders. Are these qualities of redemption? Maybe the movie should have been titled" Contempt".

Some reality.

1. "Cookie's Tales", Debra Saunders, San Francisco Chronicle, 12/1/05

"LIES SO pervade the campaign waged to "save" convicted killer Stanley Tookie Williams that Williams and company don't even bother to cover their tracks when they say things they know aren't true. "

www(DOT)sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/ 2005/12/01/EDG5TG04SF1.DTL

If Williams was redeemed he would not have allowed lies to pervade this campaign or he would have condemned them. Pretty basic. He did neither.

2. "DEATH-ROW CELEBRITY HAS DIRECT LINK TO THIS CITY'S ILLS", Gregory Kane, BALTIMORE SUN, 12/10/05

"So (Williams) still clings to the gang-banger's code of not snitching. That doesn't sound like "redemption" to me. That sounds like Williams has been conning a lot of people for a lot of years."

www(DOT)baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal- md.kane10dec10,1,7022888,print.column?coll=bal- local-columnists

Can a gang banger, sticking to the "no snitching" code of gangsters be considered redeemed? Of course not.

3. Martyrdom?, Townhall, John Leo, 12/19/05

"So much attention to the murderer, almost none for those he killed. So let us remember them here:
 
Albert Owens, a veteran and father of two young girls, shot at a 7-11, and
 
three members of an Asian-American family who ran the Brookhaven Motel-Yen-I Yang, Tsai-Shai Yang and Yee-Chen Lin.
 
In a rare bit of commentary, William John Hagan of Canada Free Press wrote: 'The mainstream media has ignored the realities of the Williams case in order to promote an anti-death-penalty agenda. To present this mass murderer as a martyr is an insult to victims everywhere."

www(DOT)townhall.com/opinion/columns/johnleo/2005/ 12/19/179573.html

Had Williams been redeemed, he would have condemned this effort. Again, of course, he didn't.

4. "Response to Stanley Williams' Petition for Executive Clemency ", Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, 11/16/05

www(DOT)lacountyda.org/pdf/swilliams.pdf


5. Who is Stanley "Tookie" Williams?, from Know Gangs

"After the robbery Williams was quoted as having told his brother "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him!" Williams then made a growling noise and laughed hysterically."

"The shotgun (Williams) purchased was used in the murders, he bragged of the killings to several witnesses and even his own friends and roommates testified agai


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5. Who is Stanley "Tookie" Williams?, from Know Gangs

"After the robbery Williams was quoted as having told his brother "You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him!" Williams then made a growling noise and laughed hysterically."

"The shotgun (Williams) purchased was used in the murders, he bragged of the killings to several witnesses and even his own friends and roommates testified against him. People who were also involved in the crimes provided evidence against him."

". . . one of William's own lawyers argued in court that it was not Williams who wrote the (children's) books, but was done by the author using his name. William's denies that claim."

"...why hasn't Williams ever expressed sorrow or remorse for the family of his victims? Why hasn't he ever expressed remorse for murdering four people? Why hasn't he ever expressed remorse for attempting to escape from prison or wanting to have a witness murdered? Why hasn't he expressed remorse when he told a court appointed psychologist that he enjoyed the feelings he got after hurting people (it's in the court documents). "

"Williams might regret his past, there is no act that will make up for the damage Williams has done and the devastation he has caused. Why not find a better role model for our children?"

http://www.knowgangs.com/blog/tookie.htm

The fact that Williams never apologized for these brutal murders, when the evidence of his guilt was not in doubt, is firm evidence that he was not redeemed and that he did, gladly, continue to turn the knife in the victims' survivors, until his execution.


6. "He's a murderer. He should die.", Joshua Marquis, Los Angeles Times, 12/4/05

"Not only did (Williams) brag to his brother about the dying anguish of Owens, but after slaughtering the Yang family, he boasted to fellow gang members he had killed "some buddhaheads."

http://www.latimes.com/news/opin...-sunday- opinion

Marquis is the district attorney of Clatsop County, Ore., vice president of the National District Attorneys Assn. and coauthor of "Debating the Death Penalty." http://joshmarquis.blogspot.com


7. "Crime and punishment", David Reinhard, The Oregonian, 12/1/05

"(Williams) broke down the door at the Brookhaven Motel. . . shot Yen-I Yang and his wife, Tsai-Shai Yang, the hotel owners, and her daughter Yee-Chen Lin, who was visiting from Taiwan." "Yen-I Yang and Tsai-Shai Yang left six children and 10 grandchildren. Yee-Chen Lin left behind three children in Taiwan."

www(DOT)oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/ david_reinhard/index.ssf?/base/editorial/ 1133398513323040.xml&coll=7


8. "Misplaced Sympathy for Killers", Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe, 12/7/05

"(Williams) shot each of (the 4 murder victims) at close range with a 12-gauge shotgun, shattering their bodies so that they died in agony. Their sufferi


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8. "Misplaced Sympathy for Killers", Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe, 12/7/05

"(Williams) shot each of (the 4 murder victims) at close range with a 12-gauge shotgun, shattering their bodies so that they died in agony. Their suffering amused him. ''You should have heard the way he sounded when I shot him,' 'Williams then made gurgling or growling noises and laughed hysterically about Owens's death.' "

www(DOT)boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/ oped/articles/2005/12/07/ misplaced_sympathy_for_killers/


9. CALLing out "Tookie" Williams, Dan Tierney, The Daily Cardinal (U of Wisxonsin-Madison), 11/17/05

"Court-defined justice, in the absence of extraordinary, contradictory evidence (which, in “Tookie’s” case, the US Supreme Court couldn’t find), is paramount over a jail-cell character transformation, and I still trust the verdict of the American legal system, with all its flaws and blemishes, far more than I do the repentance of a self-stylized, former street 'general.' "

www(DOT)dailycardinal.com/almanac/calling-out- tookie-williams.html

10. "If death penalty is law, this execution must stand", By Rubel Shelly, The Tennessean, 12/11/05
http://www.tennessean.com/apps/p...10400/1017/ NEWS


11. "California should speed execution process", Reuters 12/6/05

today(DOT)reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx? type=domesticNews&storyID=2005-12- 06T224034Z_01_KNE681576_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME- EXECUTION-CALIFORNIA.xml&archived=False

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