V. interesting post. I know how you feel . However, there are some women who refuse to succumb to these archaic attitudes .

Plus, if it makes you feel any better, I felt much the same way about the prevailing attitudes in England (when i used to live there) which I don't believe are much better today, just more American.


V. interesting post. I know how you feel . However, there are some women who refuse to succumb to these archaic attitudes .

Plus, if it makes you feel any better, I felt much the same way about the prevailing attitudes in England (when i used to live there) which I don't believe are much better today, just more American.


One of my friends told me that last year, on International Women's Day, her mother's office gave out a gift to all of the women in the office...sewing kits.


One of my friends told me that last year, on International Women's Day, her mother's office gave out a gift to all of the women in the office...sewing kits.


Blimey.

Your vent is both heard and echoed over here. I'll be passing this on...


Blimey.

Your vent is both heard and echoed over here. I'll be passing this on...


Gravatar LG,

While the point is well made, It was the link you provided about women's health, which I found fascinating in examining the question of what advocating women's rights means.
The last two paragraphs of that page were enlightening:
In the discussion about reproductive health, the paragraph finishes: "and some feel that an inequitable proportion of resources and services are devoted to fertility promotion." Never has anything smacked more of a lack of verifiable research. Who are some people? Now I work with two Israeli born women who are both attempting to become pregnant with the aid of fertility treatment. I am not sure the Ashkenazi-Anglo centred Israel Women's network has the right to speak in their name. One thing you have to remember about Israel's lack of sophistication (a point I completely agree with) is that we as anglos perhaps perceive it as such because our understanding of sophistication and multiculturalism is moulded by post-enlightenment western culture, where Israel is a country, the majority of whose population is not western. I am not trying to patronise women who want to have children and think that that is a worthy goal in and of itself - in fact I think that that is what western feminism does. It has accepted the premise that "Mother" cannot be a profression. While I agree that women should be given the same free choice as men in society and no pressure should be exerted to making them wear make up and not dress up as electricity, I also believe that if a woman wants to dedicate herself to an occupation within the home, who are we to judge? Especially if that is her cultural norm. Don't get me wrong - fine to change the cultural norm, not fine to judge the woman following it.
And then there was the last paragraph of that page, which somehow seemed to blame Israeli society for women living longer and therefore having more chronic diseases, and seemed to imply that we should kill off old people so they don't suffer. Am I turning into some form of "caring conservative" or is that just wacky?


Gravatar LG,

While the point is well made, It was the link you provided about women's health, which I found fascinating in examining the question of what advocating women's rights means.
The last two paragraphs of that page were enlightening:
In the discussion about reproductive health, the paragraph finishes: "and some feel that an inequitable proportion of resources and services are devoted to fertility promotion." Never has anything smacked more of a lack of verifiable research. Who are some people? Now I work with two Israeli born women who are both attempting to become pregnant with the aid of fertility treatment. I am not sure the Ashkenazi-Anglo centred Israel Women's network has the right to speak in their name. One thing you have to remember about Israel's lack of sophistication (a point I completely agree with) is that we as anglos perhaps perceive it as such because our understanding of sophistication and multiculturalism is moulded by post-enlightenment western culture, where Israel is a country, the majority of whose population is not western. I am not trying to patronise women who want to have children and think that that is a worthy goal in and of itself - in fact I think that that is what western feminism does. It has accepted the premise that "Mother" cannot be a profression. While I agree that women should be given the same free choice as men in society and no pressure should be exerted to making them wear make up and not dress up as electricity, I also believe that if a woman wants to dedicate herself to an occupation within the home, who are we to judge? Especially if that is her cultural norm. Don't get me wrong - fine to change the cultural norm, not fine to judge the woman following it.
And then there was the last paragraph of that page, which somehow seemed to blame Israeli society for women living longer and therefore having more chronic diseases, and seemed to imply that we should kill off old people so they don't suffer. Am I turning into some form of "caring conservative" or is that just wacky?




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