"Let's get past this bollocks about 'trendy teachers' giving everyone prizes. Beacuse it is bollocks. "
Really?
http://www.pat.org.uk/index.cfm?...tail.cfm&
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III. 5 Conference believes it is time to delete the word "fail" from the educational vocabulary to be replaced with the concept of "deferred success".
Proposed by Liz Beattie
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I can't find out whether or not the motion was carried.
"Let's get past this bollocks about 'trendy teachers' giving everyone prizes. Beacuse it is bollocks. "
Really?
http://www.pat.org.uk/index.cfm?...tail.cfm&
ID=829
III. 5 Conference believes it is time to delete the word "fail" from the educational vocabulary to be replaced with the concept of "deferred success".
Proposed by Liz Beattie
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I can't find out whether or not the motion was carried.
It wasn't carried - and PAT represent about 0.000002% of teachers!
It wasn't carried - and PAT represent about 0.000002% of teachers!
LOL thanks for that.
I'd actually emailed them to ask and interestingly enough, the motion supporting the reintroduction of grammar schools was passed.
Considering the above, perhaps it's a shame they don't represent more teachers.
LOL thanks for that.
I'd actually emailed them to ask and interestingly enough, the motion supporting the reintroduction of grammar schools was passed.
Considering the above, perhaps it's a shame they don't represent more teachers.
I wouldn't support re-introducing them, but then I wouldn't support abolishing them where they're still in place. I think there are 2 challenges. First, learn from the true comps I wrote about, the excellent ones that don't have to deal with a skewed intake due to the proximity of grammar schools. Second, how to make sure the kids that don't get into grammar school get the education they need & deserve. It's not a trivial problem, otherwise we'd have sorted it by now.
And as for the 'deferred success' thing, I honestly thought it was a joke. When I realised it wasn't, I was horrified. But I also have a huge problem with the way the media picks up on shit like this and spins it as being representative of the teaching profession as a whole. It most certainly isn't.
I wouldn't support re-introducing them, but then I wouldn't support abolishing them where they're still in place. I think there are 2 challenges. First, learn from the true comps I wrote about, the excellent ones that don't have to deal with a skewed intake due to the proximity of grammar schools. Second, how to make sure the kids that don't get into grammar school get the education they need & deserve. It's not a trivial problem, otherwise we'd have sorted it by now.
And as for the 'deferred success' thing, I honestly thought it was a joke. When I realised it wasn't, I was horrified. But I also have a huge problem with the way the media picks up on shit like this and spins it as being representative of the teaching profession as a whole. It most certainly isn't.
Hmm. I too thought the 'deferred success' thing was a joke and was quite horrified to discover otherwise.
I've never heard such utter shite in my life. Teaching kids that there's no such thing as 'failure' surely only sets them up for huge 'failure' later in life, when they have escaped the clutches of bonkers teaching staff.
As for grammar schools. As has already been mentioned, I don't advocate any more of them, but I certainly wouldn't end those that exist at the moment. In my eyes yes, some grammar schools are excellent - but so are some of the mainstream comprehensives.
Location may indeed play an important part in their success, but I consider that the ability of the teaching staff to be much more important. Many, many times we have seen some of the great success stories relating to comprehensive schools in inner city area's. Yes, the system needs some tweaking, perhaps a re-evaluation and overhaul of the complete system. But with common sense. Not any of the politically correct drivel that seems to be in abundance these days.
Almost my entire family attended comprehensive schools. Mostly we have grown up having been very well educated, attended university and gone on to be quite successful in our lives. My younger family appear to be following the very same path, despite attending comprehensive school.
Hmm. I too thought the 'deferred success' thing was a joke and was quite horrified to discover otherwise.
I've never heard such utter shite in my life. Teaching kids that there's no such thing as 'failure' surely only sets them up for huge 'failure' later in life, when they have escaped the clutches of bonkers teaching staff.
As for grammar schools. As has already been mentioned, I don't advocate any more of them, but I certainly wouldn't end those that exist at the moment. In my eyes yes, some grammar schools are excellent - but so are some of the mainstream comprehensives.
Location may indeed play an important part in their success, but I consider that the ability of the teaching staff to be much more important. Many, many times we have seen some of the great success stories relating to comprehensive schools in inner city area's. Yes, the system needs some tweaking, perhaps a re-evaluation and overhaul of the complete system. But with common sense. Not any of the politically correct drivel that seems to be in abundance these days.
Almost my entire family attended comprehensive schools. Mostly we have grown up having been very well educated, attended university and gone on to be quite successful in our lives. My younger family appear to be following the very same path, despite attending comprehensive school.
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