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As long as Obama's not compared to George W. Bush, he'll do just fine.
George W. Bush has attained the dubious distinction of being more disliked than Jimmy Carter was when he was president.
PS. Democrats won another victory in a heavily red district in Mississippi, a district that voted heavily in favor of George W. Bush in 2004.
So that is 3 wins in heavily Republican districts for the Democrats:
Louisiana, 6th Congressional district, 30 years a Republican seat, won by Cazayoux
Illinois, Hastert's House seat, won by a Democrat
Mississippi, Travis Childers, Democrat, won
In the last two House seats won by the Democrats, the Republican opposition tied the Democrat to Obama, and the Democrat won the seat.
So you Republicans, keep up the trashing of Obama. It apparently wins electios for the Democrats! Thank you.
Hi Mike,
Just think, IF he wins, that may lead to another Reagan... ah! Wishful thinking. But there is nothing new under the sun, nor nothing new in the Democratic play book. It's just a matter of what we want in our government. If we had a candidate that would just teach the people like Reagan did...
BTW, I thought about posting on this as well, but will try to link to it instead...
In my view, an Obama Presidency will be even worse than that of Jimmy Peanut. We live in more dangerous times today, with much higher stakes.
Shaw: The only advantage to an Obama presidency is that it would show George Bush to be a great president by comparison.
I don't know how old you are, but if you remember Carter, you wouldn't be in a hurry to go back there.
Timothy: Consider what AOW said. We can't afford to take the chance. While we got Reagan after Carter, Carter also gave us the Islamic Revolution in Iran which is still killing Americans today.
George W. Bush has attained the dubious distinction of being more disliked than Jimmy Carter was when he was president.
Shaw, the only reason Bush is disliked to that extent is because the man has been hammered from day one by the press and the lemming liberals out there believe whatever spewings they hear from the MSM, rather than looking at the record for themselves.
Ask a Bush hating liberal for specific reasons to hate Bush and they give you DNC talking points rather than facts.
Bush has made mistakes, no doubt. But I believe if history is written fairly, George Bush will go down as one of the great Presidents of this country.
Kanaka Girl-
Thanks for the chuckle. The 'liberal' 'MSM' has given George a pass since day one.
Sorry.
George is 'disliked' solely on his record.
He's earned it.
Kanaka Girl said: "Ask a Bush hating liberal for specific reasons to hate Bush and they give you DNC talking points rather than facts."
Kanaka: Some, like "Arthur" above don't even bother with talking points. They just jump straight to bile factory.
Hate has warped them beyond reason.
Sorry kanaka girl, if you think GW is in the company of great presidents like Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, & maybe even Reagan, you're smokin' somthing.
Outside of starting two wars, what has he accomplished for our country above his normal job requirements to uphold the Constitution and keep us safe?
Ably doing your job [which, at this point many would argue he has not done] does not make you great. It makes you competent.
Dave: Bush is facing the same headwind of blind left wing and media generated naysaying that also dogged Reagan.
They even use some of the same language: "dunce" "warmonger."
And yet, History had another judgement.
Great Presidents have a vision and a plan to achieve it. Reagan did and it worked despite intense opposition from so many of your liberal friends.
History may judge Bush better in light in a few years.
I think George W. Bush has been extremely successful in uniting many Americans against the Republican Party. Their low opinion of him and his party has enabled the Democrats to be successful in the 2006 elections and in successfully taking 3 very, very red districts away from the Republicans.
Also, George W. Bush's disasterous policies have been quite successful. He has said so himself, I believe he said of the Iraq invasion that it was a catastrophic success.
And yes, go right ahead and blame the media for all of his failures. Because if you do, the media is then the one who gets the credit for Reagan's successes. You can't have it both ways.
George Bush is responsible for the wreckage of his administration and of the Republican brand name.
No one else.
Shaw,
You don't read very well, do you?
No one is blaming the media for President Bush's failures. However, the media is to blame for painting false and libelous information regarding President Bush. Dan Rather, anyone?
Mike typed:
History may judge Bush better in light in a few years.
Perhaps. But it's going to be a tough sell. Ann Coulter has her hands full with Tailgunner Joe. That new paint job is going so well.
Not.
Mike you may be right. But at least Reagan had something to point to and say he was directly involved in bringing about.
Certainly it was his policies and vision that were largely responsible for bringing down the Berlin wall and opening up Eastern Europe.
Now one argue that it may have happened one day anyway, and it may be true, but Reagan got it done. No one else can make that claim.
There is no similar success on any level, at this point for Bush.
I think the best he can hope for is to be judged as having good foresight in his decisions regarding terror, Afghanistan, and Iraq.
Shaw: Are you trying to tell me that you would vote for the GOP if it wasn't for Bush? Suuuurrrreeee!
Dave: The Berlin Wall fell in Nov. 1989. Reagan had been out of office for many months.
His last years in office were very difficult with the Iran Contra scandal. It was only later that History judged his achievements in their full context.
When it comes to Bush, I have pointed out many, MANY times why I think our global strategy with Iraq as the keystone was and is a good idea. As bad and difficult as you perceive the last few years to have been, there is no way to know whether the consequences of doing NOTHING would have been worse.
Oh, strike that. We DO know what happens when we fail to confront evil: IT GROWS EVEN STRONGER.
We're seeing that truth play out today in Lebanon where no one seems willing to stand up to Hezbollah. The Democrats, Pelosi's visit to Damascus especially, have signaled retreat, surrender and appeasement.
It's no suprise then that the Hezboos are on another of their murderous rampages.
What would Obama do about it? Not a damn thing. And the Hezboos and their Iranian masters know that too.
The only truly good thing that will come out of the Obama administration is a chance for conservatives to finally get the GOP back from the moderates and liberals who have been trying to go left of the Democrats. Then maybe we can have a candidate in 2012.
As for Bush's record, while he has kept us safe, history will also see the many stumblings in the Iraq war and will most likely judge him once we have resolved Iraq, or left and watched it burn.
But the problem with Bush to a lesser degree, the GOP congress to a greater degree, and McCain most of all is that they are leaning to the left, growing the government, embracing leftist ideas, and wholly failing to differentiate themselves from Democrats. That's why they're losing.
Patrick:
Obama in the White House? Doubt it.
However, if so, Bobby Jindal 2012!!!
Shaw: Are you trying to tell me that you would vote for the GOP if it wasn't for Bush? Suuuurrrreeee!
No. And I'd like to see how you deduce that from my comment.
atheling: Obama could win. It just depends on which Democrat the unthinking go for. Because McCain will have chased a good number of conservatives away by then.
Any conservative in 2012!!!!!!!!!
Shaw: Mike just knoooooooooowwwwwsssss!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Patrick:
A lot of Dem moderates are voting for McCain if Obama wins the nomination - he is just too radical for them.
As for McCain chasing away "conservatives", then those "conservatives" aren't very bright, because if they sit this one out, they will help to elect Obama. They should just hold their noses and vote for McCain because Obama is the worse alternative.
Sen. Obama is another progressive who thinks that if enough tax money is thrown at a problem, the problem will go away. War on Poverty, still ongoing. Carter's Dept. of Education is still sucking down massive amounts of money with little to show for it.
Tax the oil companies, again? Already over 50 cents on every gallon of gas sold in the US goes to enrich government coffers. Meanwhile the dunces in Congress want President Bush to stop adding oil to the SPR because it could be better used keeping the cost down. The US consumes 20.5 million barrels a day, 70,000 barrels go into SPR a day. Once again Congress-critters are go for sounding good while doing nothing like learning economics. Idiots!
Miller maunderings
"We're seeing that truth play out today in Lebanon where no one seems willing to stand up to Hezbollah."
What a crock-Condy Rice allowed Israel to barbarously cluster bomb
the gallant Hezbollah and Christian areas of Lebanon mercilessly with Bush's approval. The result? Half of all Lebanese Christians, led by such as Aoun and Frangeih have scambled to
heroic Hezbollah's side against the corrupt Bush puppet regime, which is now tottering.
Patrick mumbles:
"As for Bush's record, while he has kept us safe,....
Pat obviously doesn't include the tens of thousands of US soldiers, and mercenaries (private contractors)
killed and maimed, part of "us."
"Patrick mumbles"
Hoopie... You're sounding a lot like Artie these days.
Has he been attending your Klan meetings?
I think without question George W. Bush will be remembered as the very best mountain biker ever to occupy the White House.
And you and Hoopie will be remembered as quite the odd couple.
Karl Marx meets David Duke.
LOL!
You know there isn't one of you moon bats that could have stood up against the verbal abuse that Bush has withstood since Gore tried to steal the election. Every day being lied about and catterwald. You little minded knats can't even refute the truth presented you here. The lies and half truths are astounding. I've sen it all in my 65 years, but you are the bottom of the litter box, not man enough to carry Bushes jock strap. Yeah he's made mistakes, the biggest was keeping Clinton people on instead of kicking them to the curb, and for that he's paid dearly.
Outside of starting two wars, what has he accomplished for our country above his normal job requirements to uphold the Constitution and keep us safe?
LD - First of all, Bush didn't start two wars -- he retaliated in one case and prevented worse horrors in the other.
You're right, he HAS kept the country safe and upheld the Constitution and competency is a good thing after 8 years of his predecessor! Oh and let's not forget all those pesky TAX CUTS that EVERYONE got.
What makes him a great President is that he had the steadfastness to stand unflinchingly for what he believed in and to face evil square in the eye and not blink.
I think George W. Bush has been extremely successful in uniting many Americans against the Republican Party.
SK - Bush isn't the reason most of us are put off with the party -- it has more to do with Congress and their lack of testicular fortitude when it comes to standing up against Democrats.
George W. Bush's disasterous policies have been quite successful
Exactly what policies do you consider "disastrous"? I'll give you that his immigration policy sucks....but what else?
President Bush has upheld Second Amendment Rights after the Katrina violations in NOLA.
President Bush has been consistently pro-life in supporting the Infant Born Alive Act.
Those are all "Constitutional Rights".
“Tehran has created a situation in which anyone who wants to attack its atomic facilities will have to take into account that this will lead to bitter fighting” on the Lebanese, Palestinian, Iraqi and Persian Gulf fronts. That is a sophisticated strategy of deterrence.
The Bush team, by contrast, in eight years has managed to put America in the unique position in the Middle East where it is “not liked, not feared and not respected,” writes Aaron David Miller, a former Mideast negotiator under both Republican and Democratic administrations, in his provocative new book on the peace process, titled “The Much Too Promised Land.”
Bush and his team of neo-con Israel Firsters have handed the balance of power in the Middle East to Iran.
citing anonymouse sources again Hoopie? For shame!
Kanaka Girl: You got in right in explaining why so many of us are disappointed with our party leadership. It's because they don't do MORE to counter the idiocy coming from the left.
I think Obama is like Carter and McCain is like Ford. In many ways this is very reminiscent of the 76 election. We can only hope our next Reagan is coming in 2012.
Unfortunately Dee, it took a long time for our first Reagan to come. He was waiting in the wings for years. I don't see anyone out there who even comes close.
Mike: Do I have to run for President then?
Patrick: You claiming the Reagan mantle?
Please illuminate me.
Mike: Just bask in the glow....
I think I (or you, or Dee, or any of the conservative bloggers here for that matter) have more claim on the Reagan mantle than any of the halfwits, quarter-wits, and eigth-wits that are running the GOP right now. It's simply a matter of applying consistent principles, focusing on less government, lower taxes, a stronger national defense, the greatness of America.
It's something that's eluded the GOP leadership for a while now.
Mike for President?
That's just screwy enough to actually happen.
He'd be a ground breaking candidate that's for sure.
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